Nissan Leaf High Voltage Battery Upgrades Made Easy
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- In this video we show the simple process of upgrading a 2012 Leaf with a replacement 30kWh battery from a 2017 Leaf using the EVs Enhanced battery translator and pairing tool. The whole process can be completed safely in approximately 1 hour. For further information please visit: evsenhanced.com/products/batt...
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Thanks to Scott Holmes for the featured music "Clear Progress"
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I like the massive rubber gloves turns up suddenly to unswtch the high voltage :) Also super impressed with the high tech removal pallet system. Nice work chaps.
Where do you get the connector to go between the battery and the motor
Tell where you get the two controllers one and hooks underneath the program you're on board computer and the one on the battery
Very, very well done. If you make these widely available you can essentially count the number of 24kwh leafs for your total market. I'd love to buy the set to do this on my leaf here in the UK.
Looking at this, it really shows how easy it is to replace a battery with an identical one. I bet many high schoolers could do this as long as you're careful to support the weight of it.
Hi. Yes. We happen to know a high school kid who has done several Leaf battery upgrades under supervision in his father's workshop using our tools.
Wow, that's awesome and here in Christchurch, brilliant!
Great work! Looking forward to upgrade my G1 Leafs in a near future!
This is great to see, I was always lead to believe these battery packs were incompatible. Very nice job, Thanks for the video.
Well, they sort of are incompatible. But that can be overcome :)
Congratulations Sam, you are a professional at this kind of job. How I dream of doing the same on my 2017 PHEV Outlander.
Hopefully this will be my car in a year or 2.
Thank you EVs Enhanced for your fantastic work!
No worries. Thanks for the encouragement.
How did it turn out, got a Leaf by now?
That's a very clean "simple" solution. I tip my hat to your software team.
Thanks Paul. We've been impressed with some of the cool products/solutions you've come up with too. Particularly the little display in the stock upper instrument cluster.
@@EVsEnhanced Cheers! I've been slowly working to improve the code (held back by my very amateur programming skills). I'll do an update on progress soon.
@@paulkennett Not sure what you mean by code.
@@andrewpackard2507 I meant - I've been slowly working to improve the Arduino code for my little SOC display thing (see www.myonlinediary.com/index.php/Energy/SOCDisplay).
Hi
It's great these older cars are being kept on the road
Really good video and product. When my 2013 battery gets down to 60 % I gonna seriously think about getting this done.
Thanks for the kind feedback.
Astounding. great job. A friend in Vancouver BC Canada ordered your kit and told me about this video. I almost couldn't watch it to the end because of the loud "music". I would prefer narrative or silence to that. I look forward to promoting your method to the thousands of Leaf owners here in Canada that were let down by Nissan
Thanks. We'll pass on your comment to the person who does our video editing.
What a fantastic piece of circular reuse. Love the fact the old battery was going for second life use too. But how much effort did you guys have to put in to develop those pairing and interface modules - I do hope you get some payback on that dev. Great stuff!
All those videos about hacking and DIYng with suspicious batteries shows how one can do it BUT your video shows how one MUST do it. Safely and professionally.
Congratulations. I hope you can export your know-how around the world and bring old leafs to life again. Cheers!!!
Thanks for your comments. We're working hard on getting all of our solutions to Leaf owners around the world.
Well done guys, I have always admired your work.
Thanks!
This is great work and I wish I were in Christchurch to have it done!
Well done for such a professional job. I have seen a few upgrades and these parts are literally plug and play. Just need to find a 30kWh pack for my brothers Leaf.
Thanks. Good luck with the hunt for a doner pack.
Very nice video! I was inspired to try a leaf battery upgrade. I may need to buy some of your mods.
Cool video. Just wanted to add the tip that when I looked at replacing my battery I came across Fenix, a company doing battery replacements that cuts you over to battery as a service, with a battery pack with cells that they swap out for good cells so you are always working with a good battery/charge. You can lease their battery as a service, or buy it. May be a good option for some. Cheers.
Just watched a 2012 Leaf battery upgrade at Leo & Sons using your solution. Very cool kit and we're looking forward to putting a video together on the results!
Thanks. If you have any questions for your video then please email enquiries@evsenhanced.com and we'll be happy to help. We've also got several new products on the way and continual improvements for our existing products.
Nice! This is great news, putting 30kWh battery into an older 24kWh battery LEAF!
@Andrew Le Pffyeahright. 30kWh is *child's play.*
Nissan have offered to install a 40kWh battery in my 2011 for $13K US. I'm going to buy a slightly crashed 2020 and salvage its 62kWh, and do the swap in my garage with jack stands & a creeper. I hope this tech is ready for the grown-up battery; I expect it is.
@@stevejordan7275 yeah... pff... well, it's better than being stuck at 24kWh. And you didnt realize I wrote that a year ago.
@@be236 Oops...sorry if I offended. I was attempting what passes for chest-thumping in nerdy types: technical bravado.
Congrats on the 30kWh battery; and yes, actually, I did know your comment was a year old...it says so right after your name on that comment.
For all I know, my attempt to buy and install a 62kWh battery may simply prove to be an expensive mistake. (On the other hand, I know it's been done.)
This battery is OK for 50-60 km daily commutes given that the owner will charge it between 20 and 80%, and would be able to make 100km if needed. My battery looks pretty much the same, and my wife is happy to use Leaf every single day for her work commutes (around 30km) charging it every night to 80%.
Anyways, glad to see that you have a successful business helping EV owners to extend the lives of their cherished cars. Hope, at the time I will need to swap our battery, you will have an easy option for the Aucklanders.
Hi. Our products are available for sale to allow any good mechanic anywhere to complete these upgrades. There are already several workshops in Auckland offering Leaf battery upgrades using our battery translators and pairing tool.
How do you set the charge to 80%? Nissan has removed the setting and it now charges to 100% which degrades the battery in my leaf much faster...
@@xhobv02 I noticed on my 2016 leaf , i cannot charge up to 80%. But my nissan leaf 2012 i was able to. i have to admit that , they both look the same but i miss my 2012 leaf. that car was definitely not the car for his era. way advance and much more reliable than any other leafs.
Thanks EVs Enhanced for the great work you are doing, I have a 2012 leaf and I would like to at least swap to the 40kw battery, thanks
Hi James. The conversion you mentioned is coming.
EVs Enhanced how much it cost to do this upgrades?
Love this guys, Im gonna wait to see how the 40kwh pans out too!
Development on the 40kWh swap is going well. It shouldn't be too far away.
@@EVsEnhanced Exciting work! If this extends out to using a 62 kWh as well... you have a growing audience. All the best. G
@@radicalradzik I suspect it will be a while before we have a 62kWh battery to play with down here. But we have recently seen a 62kWh for long enough to record some CAN data. It looked very similar to a 40kWh.
@@radicalradzik czcams.com/video/h47rnjsD0Ys/video.html
You really did make it look easy!
Yes, with our conversion kit, we think it is very feasible for any decent mechanic to be able to complete a Leaf battery upgrade with just a small amount of training.
Great to see you guys are in chch nz. Please keep up the good work and I’ll see you in about 8 years when my battery dies. :D
No worries. I don't know the age of your Leaf, but it's unlikely that you're battery will 'die'. The range just decreases a little every year.
I like the video and the instructions on how to do it safely. I'm excited to give it a good upgrade for my 2013 Nissan leaf. Hopefully a 60kwhr pack into it. It has Chademo and 6.6kw charger on the car.
Keep posted when you do
Really interesting video, Great work 👍
Thanks.
An excellent video, well done.
Thanks.
Excellent!
Very good explanation...i am also using a nissan leaf 2012
Super, from Rock Island, Illinois.
Thanks, from Christchurch, New Zealand.
Ah, sadly, I'm across the BIG pond in California. And with all the LEAFs here, I would think this type of service would be available from all us 7 bar sufferers. But nothing I have found. I will be ordering one of your battery pairing tools so I can do a DIY swap of a better Gen1 battery. But I would really like to find a 30kWh version and do what you guys have done. I visited NZ a few years ago, and I'm pleased to see all of the innovative ways you have been using solar, wind and EVs. Keep it up, and do try to solve the 40kWh battery challenge. (Maybe even the 62kWh LEAF+) Probably not many of those in NZ. Cheers!
Hi. These translators will be available for wider distribution soon and we already have some contacts in California. We still have a few more refinements to make though. Our development on the 40kWh swap is going well too.
Keep your eyes open. New upgrade shops are popping up all over the place. 3 in the Pacific Northwest in the past 3 months.
@@DaveLaur I live up in the Seattle area - can you list the shops that do these types of upgrades?
Very impressive
You forgot to switch the steering wheel to the right side of the car. Great work by the way!
Hi. Our steering wheel already is on the 'right' side. Yours must be on the left :)
Have you ever had to replace the fuse for the ptc heater for a 2012 Nissan leaf , I think its in the junction box area. thanks for all the good work you are doing and sharing , I plan to upgrade my leaf to the 40 kwh battery when you have the translator box done for the 2012 leaf. thank you
Wow... best and most elegant upgrade solution I've ever seen for the Leaf. When you get the 62kwh translator figured out...that will be pure gold for any Leaf out there. I wonder what the range would be on a 62kwh battery with the original 80kW motor compared with the newer Leafs that have a 150 kW motor.
Thanks. We're still working on obtaining a spare 62kWh battery to test with. They aren't easy to come by in our country yet. Hopefully not too far away though.
@@EVsEnhanced Any news on getting this to work on a 62kWh pack? Or even a 40kWh pack?
@@edvoon Hi. We found a 62kWh battery to use for development, but haven't worked on the conversion into 2011/2012 cars yet. Have done and tested 62kWh in 2013+ though. 40kWh in 2011/2012 car is in beta testing at the moment. 2011/2012 cars also need a custom VCM reflash that we developed to resolve some silly things that Nissan did in the VCM firmware.
@@EVsEnhanced oh man firmware issues. Thats one of the only things im skeptical with concerning the converaion fron gas to ev's is right to repair related issues. Especially here in the states :(
@@adamkrasneski3679 Yes. ICE to EV conversions on modern vehicles without compromises are certainly quite difficult. Battery upgrades on existing EVs aren't as difficult fortunately.
Great video, thanks for taking the time to put it together!
From my experience of 24 kWh and 30 kWh LEAFs, the 30 kWh model seems to be more willing to take on a higher charging current when rapid charging, so it charges faster than the 24 kWh model. Since you've retrofitted a 30 kWh pack to a 24 kWh LEAF, have you tried it out on a rapid charger to see if it accepts a higher charging current than before? If so, is it comparable with the charging current accepted by 30 kWh models, or is the charging power more akin to the circa 35 kW peak that 24 kWh LEAFs tend to experience, even with the 30 kWh pack fitted?
Hi guys, great video keep up the great work. We are in Tasmania, and was wondering if you have anyone local either is "Tassie" or maybe in Victoria that I could have a chat to in regards to changing/repairing a Gen 1 battery pack, Cheers
Great video, thanks for sharing. Just one question, do you have to inform NZTA the vehicle is modified?
As someone in the UK who's interested in buying a leaf but unable to afford new, I'm put off by the longevity of the battery. I admire your professionalism in fitting a salvaged pack but I would imagine they are both costly and scarce.
I wish you had wiring diagrams available for troubleshooting.
I had to come to this video to learn that "full loom" is only a wire bundle about 2ft long.
I was unsure how much wiring was replaced in my Leaf when this kit was installed.
Awesome
Thanks.
Dear my friend.
Your video is much more valuable than the other. So shall we upgrade 24kw battery to 62kw battery. Also how I get it that compatible gadgets. Since I am living in Sri Lanka
I am thinking of building a battery for a Nissan Leaf from scratch. Why you may ask because this is the stuff I love doing. The only thing that I am unsure of is this. Will I have to use the same 2 v or 8-volt cells? I was thinking of using the 18650s or similar cells. If you think it can't be done with the 18650s or similar cells please explain why. Thanks in advance.
Great to see here in Christchurch. Great work guys. I have a 2012 leaf which could be up for that in a couple of years. Also, are you converting the old batteries for home storage solutions or is someone else doing that? I have solar but no batteries at this stage and it’s something I would like to do but not at Tesla prices.
Hi Derek. Thanks for the encouragement. We trade in the customer's old low SoH battery pack. The modules are then removed and used for stationary storage applications as you say. The pack housing/enclosure is stored for future aftermarket upgrade options. We think that the used modules are more viable for larger industrial stationary storage solutions than at home. The exception is people in remote places that are completely off-grid.
How much does this extend the range on the EV? Is this expensive to do. I find the cars for sale in my area for around 10,000 to 12,000 dollars. This looks like a very good option.
Many thanks for the great video - one quick question, i have a 2014 acenta model(UK) that still has the settings to charge to 80% (discontinued in later models), does swapping to 30 kwh still keep this software function ? Once again many thanks
Hi. Yes, if the car had the 80% option then with our translator this functionality will be retained when swapping to a 30kWh or 40kWh battery.
Thanks for the video! Are the battery pack swaps similar for the ZE1 models? 40kwh-62kwh?
Hi. 40kWh is physically the same as a 30kWh externally, with similar weight and and retains the same connectors and wiring. Only the firmware in the CAN translator is different. 62kWh is considerably heavier and has different mounting points to attach to the car. A custom mounting kit can be used to fit a 62kWh though, upgraded springs etc.
Cool, great job! Did you add any increase in power?
Electric hot-rodding is the future for 100% torque enthusiasts!
This is the future for all BEVs. Great job. What is the price for this upgrade and how long did the upgrade take ?
It says took a hour . Seems very easy. I guess them must do all the time
Is it possible to upgrade to a 60+ kwh , instead of just to 30?
Looks great any idea on final prices for ZE0 to 30 / 40 or even 62 KWh options I am assuming maybe $500 or $600 plus the cost of the battery. Does it bring back the faster charging allowed by newer packs ?
Hi. Pricing still being refined for the different options, but in NZ dollars the various translators will be close to your expectations. Yes, fast charging speed will be much improved with a newer/healthier pack.
Ev' Enhanced I am trying to find a 40 kwh battery for an upgrade by you at a later date, the salvage yard are ask me for a battery part number and is it with the battery warmer or no warmer, can you help me with this, could I use the part number off the 40kwh battery you have, thanks
AWESOME JOB !!! Do you have the kit to convert from 24kwh to 40kwh ?
Hi. Not yet. We have only recently found a 40kWh pack to use for development, but development is going quite well so far.
Is there a step by step how to and list of needed parts including whatever you used to check battery life and from what year the new/used battery was from anywhere? I’d like to order parts from you and have local shop try and do it.
Hi. Not quite a step-by-step for all applications, but the following places are good to start.
evsenhanced.com/products/battery-translator/
evsenhanced.com/product/obd2-to-leaf-battery-adapter/
Good video. Thank you. What is the price for the kit? Also, noticed front bumper - where can I get one like this?
Where can I get the OBD to leaf battery adapter, blanking connector and AB enhanced translator kit (translator module, mounting brackets, fastener and full loan for simple plug & play).
I wish the government would consider subsidising battery replacements as well as new cars. There are plenty of Leafs on the roads which could last for years with a refreshed battery.
Agreed. We noticed that the Climate Change Commission has recently recently released a draft of their advice to the NZ government. Buried in that is 'work with the private sector to roll out EV battery refurbishment'. So maybe.....
Exciting progress and wonderful step-by-step. Would you have recommendations for a reliable technician in San Francisco bay area? Our 2011 Leaf has only 5/12 bars and in need of a replacement battery. Would love to extend the life of our car and require significant range restoration. Many thanks on a well produced vid and for the fine work you do!
Hi. I would recommend talking to the guys at Thunderstruck EV in Santa Rosa.
@@EVsEnhanced Thank you! Giving a call straight away. Keep up the fine work - it's making a difference in the world!
@@radicalradzik Hi. You are too kind, but thanks for the positive feedback.
@@EVsEnhanced do you have any one in the Huntington Beach area? Or Orange County CA am really wanting to upgrade our 2012 to a 40KWh
@@kmscorza Hi. Sorry, but we don't have any contacts in that area.... yet.
Great video, and fantastic to see how EV cars and batteries can continue their life. What is approx cost of this upgrade for say a gen 2 24G to a 30 or even 40 battery??
Hi. If you go to evsenhanced.com/services/hv-battery-swaps-and-upgrades/ then you'll find a calculator at the bottom of the page which is the basis for the prices we charge in our Christchurch New Zealand based service center. However, it should be noted that here in NZ we tend to pay more for good used battery packs than in a lot of other places like North America and Europe.
Excellent work! This is groundbreaking. As you fit a s2 battery to a s1 vehicle, I suspect changing a 24kwh s2 battery for a 30kwh s2 battery will be easier without need for the mechanical changes? Also, would you consider it being doable to fit a new body 40 or 62kwh battery in a s2 vehicle? As far as I can understand, dimensions are fairly similar and voltages are the same.
We have had a translator for the 30kWh battery into a 2013-2015 24kWh Leaf available for some time. evsenhanced.com/product/hv-battery-translator-30-2-aze0e/ Externally, the 40kWh battery is physically the same as a 30kWh battery - only the CAN bus translation is different. We are working on the 40kWh battery translation now. The 62kWh battery is physically different to all earlier packs and is taller and has modified mounting points so isn't such an easy swap. But with some modifications to the car or a custom mounting kit it can be made to fit an earlier Leaf.
@EVs Enhanced My concern would be the weight increase and having to haul that extra weight around with an 80kW motor. The 40 and 62kWh LEAFs have more powerful motors to compensate and some. Do you happen to know what the differences in weights between the 24, 30, 40 and 62 kWh batteries are?
@@EVsEnhanced Thanks for answering. Will be following you closely. 40kwh will be the way to go for me, as the salvage yards rarely know the difference in capacity, and the price will be about the same.
@@thesleepgeek I think it is the same motor, just the inverter is told to give it more juice , because it can ( safely) with the bigger battery. The height/suspension would be a problem with the heavier taller 62 kWh battery.
These cars must hold the road very well with the weight positioned as it is.
The weight of the battery is certainly in the ideal place. However the suspension in the Leaf wasn't exactly designed with sport's car handling in mind. Overall they handle well enough for what they are meant for though.
Love it was concerned about Battery replacement I see you can get a 30 in a former 24 . I wonder if the 2020 battery would fit a 2013 ?
Hi. 24, 30 and 40kWh are all physically the same form factor and will bolt straight in with the appropriate CAN translator. 62kWh is slightly different physically, although with a custom mounting kit it can be made to fit. The 62kWh battery is also significantly heavier though whereas the 24, 30 and 40 are very similar weight.
Great to hear that 40kW battery is compatible with old leaf. Does the CAN translator module available from EVs Enhanced to be bought online?
Where can I get the OBD to leaf battery adapter, blanking connector and AB enhanced translator kit (translator module, mounting brackets, fastener and full loan for simple plug & play)?
Hi. It depends on where you are. If you are close to us in New Zealand then go to evsenhanced.com and check out under Enhancements (within Products and Services). If you are somewhere else far away then we may have a relationship with a closer company who can help. Feel free to email enquiries@evsenhanced.com for more information.
Do you think in the future with battery improvements, a 60kwh battery pack upgrade will be available to early leafs?
Yes. We have already put a 62kWh battery into an early Leaf. In our own country we are working through certification requirements to make this road legal mostly relating to the additional weight. The 40kWh Leaf battery is an easier upgrade for the earlier cars as the weight is very similar to the original and the mounting brackets are the same. With the extra weight of the 62kWh pack, Nissan added a lot more mounting points which are in a different position.
Hi I have been wondering if one day I could get an update to my 2019 Leaf plus so the Range could exceed 300 miles because I now travel Interstate. So I now need a much greater range wish I could get 450 miles that would help a lot. I like my car a lot so just need a larger battery pack
One day likely. Not practical in the near future though. If you do long trips occasionally then your car has plenty of range and you just need to find a nice spot on your journey with a fast charger. If you realistically do really long trips like this really often then buy a Tesla with the long range option.
Hi EVs Enhanced.I have a 2014 Leaf. Do you know whether the contacts on the on the battery side of the PTC heater socket are live when the heater cable is disconnected? Is there anything inside the battery pack related to the cabin heating? (A fuse or relay? Anything) Thanks Jozef
Hi. The HV relays inside the battery pack shouldn't ever close with the PTC connector removed as the interlock signal circuit on the connector will be detected as open. Yes the PTC has its own small fuse inside the battery pack.
@@EVsEnhanced , Thanks for your reply, you seem to have an excellent understanding of the matter.
I have this situation: the cabin PTC heater is not working. B2772 comes up when I connect to OBD2. I have replaced the PTC heater for a second hand one but it still doesn't work, B2772 is still there.
To do more testing, I have unplugged the PTC wiring harness from the battery, inserted a link to the interlock (pins 44 and 45, without it the car would not even go into Drive or Reverse), turned on the heating and checked the voltage between +40 and -41 and got 0 Volts, then I checked between +40 and ground and got around 200 Volts initially, but the reading started dropping (discharging through the voltmeter) fast.
I think there must be something wrong in the battery pack, but I am struggling to get detailed information about it.
I took the car to my local Nissan garage, was told the PDM needs replacing, I don't think it has anything to do with it, after raising my concerns with them they weren't too sure either.
Could you please advise about the components (fuse Amps, dimensions, type) inside the battery pack between the PTC heater plug and SYSTEM MAIN RELAYS?
Thanks again, Jozef
@@jozefdkois On the earlier 2011/2012 Leaf we've seen several cases where the PTC heater fails and blows its fuse which is in the DC/DC junction box. On a 2013+ Leaf, this fuse has been moved to inside the battery pack. On these, the PTC heater connector should have a live 250-400VDC applied to it whenever the two main relays are closed assuming the fuse is not blown. It is a 30A 500V old school looking glass cylindrical fuse but with welded eyelets on either end for screws to go through. As I recall these are not easy to find, but we likely have some spares if you end up needing one and can't find one locally. Please contact enquiries@evsenhanced.com for more info.
great job guys , thanks for the videos.
@@jstroudbigjim No problem. Thanks for your kind feedback.
May you make more clear on the connection modification thankfully your
Hi. Check out evsenhanced.com/products/battery-translator/ for more information.
3:30 "now its time to unbolt the hv voltage battery"
this part is dangerous, the battery weights 700lbs. plz everyone be careful if you attempt this
Agreed. While our conversion method is as safe as it can get (the battery pack is never opened), between the high voltage risk and the mass of the battery pack itself there are still several safety risks that need to be treated seriously.
Ugh. I was lucky and got a warranty replacement to the 2015 chemistry (IIRC) for my 2011 Leaf. It's better, but not great. About 80,000 miles on the replacement and it's dropped a bar. Full charge is about 17Kwhr. Not great, but still useable for what I use it for. Main car is a 2020 Bolt. My leaf is like serial number 203, actually built in 2010!
Dropping a bar after 80,000 miles on your warranty replacement pack doesn't sound too bad. Cool early build date on your car.
So I guess the hardest part is sourcing the 30kwh battery? My Gen 1 Leaf is down to 66.5% SOH and would love to have an upgrade like this as the rest of the car is absolutely A1 condition. Any partners in Melbourne, Australia who can perform this upgrade? If not... maybe I can be the first as long as I can find a battery pack!
Hi. Yes sourcing a good 30kWh battery is the main challenge. We can assist with the rest and we do have a partner in Melbourne.
@@EVsEnhanced Do you have a partner in Sydney?
@@edvoon Hi. Sorry, but we do not currently. Are you aware of a good independent EV specialist in Sydney that we should talk to?
@@EVsEnhanced Unfortunately no, but it would be great if someone who's a mechanic in Sydney and interested in working with EVs sees this and introduces themselves. Seems to be an unmet demand here.
I'm suffering some Leaf range envy after watching this. Very clean work! I know you guys are probably still working out the specifics, but do you have a ballpark idea of what you would charge for this conversion? Where do you plan to source new 30 kwh batteries from? Keep it up! It is so wasteful to send these Gen1 Leafs to the scrapyard after 50k miles, just because the battery is degraded.
Hi. Currently all of our replacement battery packs come from vehicles that have been lightly damaged. In our New Zealand based workshop we would charge approx NZ$10k (approx US$6k) for this conversion drive-in, drive-out when we keep the cars original battery. That being said, we tend to pay more for good replacement battery packs down here than what you would expect to pay in parts of the US, Canada or Europe. Our translator hardware is a pretty small part of the cost - the majority is in the replacement pack itself.
@@EVsEnhanced Thats a very competitive price. Very fair. I worry about pack supply as new Leaf sales continue to (unfortunately) decline. I'll definitely be a customer of yours when I get around to tackling a "Leaf Battery Refurbish Project" build. Thanks for the response.
@@InnovativeSustainableSolutions We agree. Used packs will only get us so far due to supply limitations, but it is a step in the right direction. We are going to need new replacement packs to be available for purchase. As you mention, new Leaf sales are declining which means Nissan should have surplus supply of new 40kWh packs available. The current US retail of a 40kWh pack is US$11k + US$1k if you don't return your original battery. That isn't too unreasonable in our opinion - the problem is getting them to sell them. If Nissan doesn't get involved soon they will miss out due to the aftermarket alternatives coming. Some of those are exciting - others are scary.
Thermal management possible?
Nice job, how much it cost please
The only issue was the UNNECESSARILY LOUD music and the quiet voice.. I had to continuously move the volume control to stay with what was happening...
The changeover was inspirational. I would love a Leaf.
An idea of costing would be great
Hi. We have already had that same feedback from others regarding the music and have passed that on to the person responsible for next time. The upgrade price is primarily dependent on the cost of the replacement battery which varies quite a lot between different parts of the world. Here in New Zealand we tend to pay more than the going rates in the Americas or Europe. However, there is a price calculator on our website for upgrades in our own service center. We have a growing number of partners in other counties using our translators as well.
So if I sourced a 30kWh pack in Wellington, I can order the pieces off you and do the swap myself?
Yes, but we can also recommend a few workshops in Wellington that can do this for you if you aren't fully comfortable with the process and don't have access to a hoist.
Can you make any recommendations of places to have this priced and carried out in the UK, my 24 2014 Leaf is good for now but I'd like to ensure its future.
Link and price can adapter battery ZEO to AZEO?
can you put a 40kw in a 2011 ?
Sorry, i know this is off topic, but I'm also a car guy, not just an ev nerd. I own a 2015, and i wanna know what that front bumper is? 11:16 aftermarket i'm guessing, but searched far and wide (I'm in Canada) and haven't really found anything. Unless it's a country specific? In that case, I'll have to have something shipped from a wrecker out of my country...
Hi. This is a genuine Nissan front bumper from the Autech edition only sold in Japan and referred to as a Leaf Aerostyle. All of these also came with side skirts, rear caps and blue alloy turbine wheels.
Quick question I noticed that the leaf has only 53K. I am wondering why the owner didn't get the replace the battery under warranty. Thank you
Hi. Firstly, all 24kWh Leafs only had a 5 year warranty and these were built from 2010-2016. Therefore, very few of these will still be under warranty now. It is worth mentioning that Nissan extended their warranty to 8 years with the introduction of the 30kWh battery and beyond. Secondly, here in New Zealand most of our Leafs are used imports from Japan. Even on a newer car, Nissan NZ doesn't support the warranty that the cars would still have if they were in Japan. Hence we have been forced to find solutions to problems far before other people in other parts of the world.
Ok. My Leaf is at 69% SOH and it does my (two-way) commute twice over with ease. I think, when I first got it nearly four years ago with 85% SOH, it would do three such commutes, just. What's my point? Unless the battery SOH collapses completely (which I have not heard is happening even for 2011 Leafs), there are people out there who can happily use these cars and continue using them for years.
Good job, well done! I am from Sri Lanka. We intend upgrading a 2012 24kwh leaf to 30kwh battery. How do I order the translator kit and the pairing tool ?. How much will it cost to send to Sri Lanka ?
Hi. I recommend you have a chat to Dinushka at EV Hub in Sri Lanka as he already has some of our products in stock. Otherwise if you have a business looking to offer these conversions then please email enquiries@evsenhanced.com
Right now of course the first Leaf EVs are coming up for mainly battery replacements. However with fewer moving parts Nissan Leafs could conceivably be running for decades or more, far longer than ICE cars which usually become too expensive to repair due to engine or gearbox issues. How feasible would it be to keep an old Leaf running by replacing engines, computers, etc? Would that be something that can only be done by Nissan (if they even bother to) or will 3rd-party mechanics like you guys be able to find parts and get the technical knowledge to do so?
The Leaf is relatively simple and easy to work on. Like any car, other parts can sometimes fail but independent 3rd party specialists keeping these cars running for a long time is very feasible providing the battery supply/cost issues are resolved.
Great news. Shame Nissan isn't doing this. Any cost estimate? PS Your music is way too loud.
Can a person get a simple replacement (no upgrade) of a 24 Kwh for a 2011 Leaf? Is it possible in the USA?
Yes. For a like-for-like battery direct replacement, no translator is required. You can just use our battery pairing tool. czcams.com/video/KGfACtsdtTk/video.html evsenhanced.com/product/hv-battery-pairing-tool-individual-use/
Seems they all have this volume control to put you off listening, should have on screen details ,with sound turned down. Maybe it can be done?
This definitely was not intentional to put anyone off listening. Just an honest editing mistake which we are now more aware of for future videos.
Any timeline when your hardware is available for the US market?
Hi. It is looking like this will be very soon.
Are we talking days months next year?
Know anybody on Maui that can do this to a 2017 Leaf?
Does the first gen car recognize the 30kwh battery's extended (full)range or does it just think its a 24kwh with alot of reserve capacity?
Taking the relevant information from the lithium battery controller in the new battery, our translators inform the vehicle control module (in the car) of the calculated remaining energy if that is what you are asking.
@@EVsEnhanced he's asking if he can use all the 30kwh to drive or only 24kwh, with car thinking it can't use more, to put it simply.
(but i believe in reality there is no such check, the car prevents driving when individual cells fall below certain voltage, but since this doesnt happen before all energy is used, you should be able to use all the new capacity)
@@gelisob Ok. Yes, you can certainly use the additional capacity of the upgraded battery so the driving range is higher than the car originally had when it was new.
EVs Enhanced What’s the new range with a healthy 30kwh in a 2011? Your video ends showing 233km, is that really how much it is after the swap?
Where do you source the battery pack . Is it from Nissan direct or a cottage ind battery builder .
For my 40kwh in Ireland I wonder will is sell it, repair it , or build it myself. Electrically qualification is handy
Hi. The source is typically from lightly damaged Leafs that aren't deemed economically viable to repair.
@@EVsEnhanced I wonder if it was the battery pack from my late 2017 Leaf which was written off by a speeding ICE car!
@@neddyl1225 Maybe... Even if your damaged car went to someone else, chances are the battery will live on in another Leaf.
Really great...
I'm just asking I too have some knowledge on ebike projects and lithium ion battery technology.
By any chance can you allow me to work with your company..?
Hi. What did you have in mind?
@@EVsEnhanced would like to work in ebike, electric car projects
I'm game!
More information on the product shown in this video can be found at evsenhanced.com/products/battery-translator/ and evsenhanced.com/product/nissan-leaf-hv-battery-translator-kit/
With the Pandemic and not driving - how should a leaf be stored when not used? low battery or full?
Hi. Approximately 50% state of charge is best for storage.
@@EVsEnhanced Thank you - I've got a '17 that's already down a bar and reports 78% SOH. It has mostly sat idle since March with very lil driving.
@@bshef3424 If it is a 2017 30kWh then it is worth checking the LBC (BMS) firmware version as there is still a version out there with a bug which Nissan has not yet even acknowledged let alone offered a fix for.
@@EVsEnhanced - Ok - Yes when I private party purchased it....I did take it to a local dealer who assured me that it showed it had already been updated. Thanks for the replies and the great video!
@@bshef3424 Ok. It would still pay to check to be sure. LBC firmware versions of the form 4Nx4A, 4Nx4B or 4Nx6A all have a bug.
Hi - I thought the >2017 Gen 2 only came with a 40kwhr pack and that Gen 1 were either 24 or 30 ?
Yes. That's right, but the 30kWh battery didn't arrive until late 2015 and while these physically fit into the earlier cars there are communications and connector differences which our translator kit addresses. Same with a 40kWh battery into an original shape Leaf.
@@EVsEnhanced I think he's referring to the fact that you said the replacement pack was from a 2017 LEAF. But obviously the one you sourced was from a 2017 Gen1 LEAF.
Hi Guys, where are you based and how much do you charge to fit a 40w in a nissan leaf 2012
Hi. Please check out evsenhanced.com/contact-us/ and evsenhanced.com/services/hv-battery-swaps-and-upgrades/
Please make the music the same Volume as the voice. it is much louder.
Fair enough. Your comment has been passed on to the person that does our editing.
Or skip the music altogether....
@Organical Botanicals Ok. Thanks very much for the info.
I have a 2014 LEAF with 98,000kms on the clock and full battery health (according to the car's display). Can I get some advice:
1. How much further until I lose a bar?
2. How much should I pay for a replacement battery (used from wrecked LEAF or otherwise)
3. How much for your conversion kit?
In essence, I'm trying to get an idea of the costs I am facing to upgrade my car and how I should start preparing for it, ie: should I start looking for a deal on a used battery now?
Further to the above - I'm sitting in Canada. Do you guys have any relationship with an organization in Canada?
Mark Plain get the LeafSpy app and OBD dongle to determine state of health (SoH). 1st bar is lost at 85%
*You know the job is easy when someone can do it in shorts!* 😂❤️😂❤️😂❤️😂❤️😂❤️
Indeed :)
Typical kiwi ☺️
@@VanceWarren83 Hey, at least he was wearing work boots and not jandels :)
@@EVsEnhanced Lol, exactly. Greetings from Rotorua btw :)
I own a automotive shop in Raleigh Durham Area in NC, USA. I’m also the owner of a perfectly like new 2012 Leaf with 7 bars left. If I sign up with you, will you provide the needed conversion kit for 30 or 40kwh battery swap? The actual swapping job is no issue and my shop can easily handle the work. All we need is the conversion kit from you, and, of course, to scout for the good batteries by ourselves. I’d be glad to be the designated shop in my region to perform this much needed upgrades for fellow Leaf owners. Please advise!
Hi. Yes we can help with your conversion. Please contact enquiries@evsenhanced.com to discuss this further. Thanks.
Did this work out? Is your shop able to do this work now?
Is it possible to install a newer 62kWh battery in a 2012 Leaf with your technologies?
Hi. Unlike the 24/30/40, a 62kWh battery pack isn't a bolt in job. It has different mounting points and is significantly heavier. So there are other things to do as part of the conversion, but it is certainly possible. We're looking at OBC upgrade options for the 2011/2012 cars as well. Unlike the later Leafs, there was no factory option of a 6.6kW OBC.
@@EVsEnhanced I hope you set up shop in California.
@@JonJoshChua We have no plans to do this, but would be happy to supply our tools and equipment to another EV specialist company in California.