Giving up on my Cybertruck order (after TESLA FAILED to deliver) and buying an Ineos Grenadier?
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Trusting E.Musk, at all, just proves once again that you still are the dumbest automotive channel on CZcams.
Giving it back... not so much 🤔 Nice truck, but I still love my transsyberia 957.
Just more AD BAIT from what used to be a car channel. Such a SCAM!!!
I hardly see any Testlers outside of America.
Is that Elliott's leftovers?
BECAUSE OF THE FORD LIGHTNING REVIEW
Not a suprise Tesla ignored Hoovies deposit, the best towing channel on CZcams. Similar happen to TFL.
Yeah, Musk is plenty petty enough to blacklist people without telling them, something he would rail against if it happened to him.
Same reason they didn't let legitimate car reviewers get their hands on cybertrucks for review. Just keep the hype going by letting tech CZcamsrs and the like review them...
Did you just use TFL for - the ford lightning?
Who told you that was acceptable?
@@johnnychimpo7539TFL is a very good Car CZcams channel not short for The Ford Lightning
@@johnnychimpo7539 TFL is another car CZcams channel, The Fast Lane.
Jim Ratcliffe tried to buy the rights and tooling to the old Defender, but they refused. Jag/Land Rover then took him to court, claiming he copied their design, but failed. Originally, it was going to be built in the UK.
Dam dude Harry Potter is going crazy
The reason why he won the court case was because Land Rover forgot all about the Santana PS-10, a vehicle so similar in aesthetic design even the side door dimensions are identical to the Defender, and the wheelbase is the same as the old-school Series III long-wheelbase. There are very historical reasons why that is the case, however.
Santana built the old series LR under licence before building their own clone.@@cameronwood1994...
It was going to be built in South Wales until Ratcliffe a supporter of Brexit decided to build it in the EU. So much for supporting British manufacturing. Would not buy one on principle just like I would never buy a Tesla because of Elon Musk.
@@nicholasevans4812yep. Just like James Dyson- campaigned for Brexit, voted for Brexit, the upped stick and moved Dyson to the far east!
That interior button setup is so freaking sweet
Anyone else find it hilarious Hoovie is hawking a debt company? 😂
I like this B58 powered beast a million times better than the electric monstrosity you wanted to get!
I finally saw a tesla truck out in the wild. It looks like something a young kid would draw on paper and is amplified once you see it in person. Lol
Tyler needs to also known these New B58 engine's are dead nut's reliable and they are single turbo not twin turbo. They are twin power turbo.
@@adriaanserrao2016 Yup, a single Twin scroll Turbo.
Hear hear, this is awesome!
There will be an all electric version of this car - at least Ineos is taking registrations for notifications on the electric version.
ZF is it's own company not BMW, ZF transmissions details those automotive transmissions created by the German ZF Friedrichshafen AG engineering company.
Yes, but he probably meant that they took the whole drivetrain package from BMW, including their specific ZF 8HP unit and BMW's tuning of it. Which makes a world of difference, actually. I have a B58 + ZF-8 and it is the best drivetrain below higher-level Porsches and other much more expensive cars. Buttery smooth or almost dual-clutch fast, and dead reliable. A Grand Cherokee, for example, also has a ZF-8, but the performance is way worse.
ZF licenses their designs to almost every manufacturer to make their own versions.
@@hyacia
My favorite use of the ZF-8 is in the Leppard 60 Ton Italian Army Tank, made by Iveco/Fiat.
It's identical to what is in the RAM 2500 Dually pickup sold in North America.
@@hyaciaAudi also tunes their ZF8s pretty well. The DSG is some models can be quite jerky at low speeds.
ZF = Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen
Steel wheels dont crack when you are off-road. You can also bang out any dents in them to reseal a tyre.
It's not without its issues, on RHD models the steering damper hangs right down, there's an awkward lump in the driver's footwell, the control arms on the axles are quite short, limiting potential lift, the wheel arches are quite small, limiting tyre size, and you have to be very creative to squeeze in a long range fuel tank (although that last one is probably only an issue for Australians). Despite all of that, I'd take it in a heartbeat over a Cybertruck.
After this 20 minute commercial, I wouldn't be surprised if Hoovie becomes the local dealer for Ineos!
He’s gotta pay all those debts one way or another lol. Seriously though he’s saying he’s massively in debt and selling away cars and here he is saying he wants to buy a new car which is going to depreciate a bunch from a brand new company which will obviously have issues being that it’s the first vehicle from a completely new company
Most reviews suggest the Ineos is less than spectacular too
Why does he keep pumping out 💩 like this?
😂😂😂
@@sweet17777w😂
Axles are proper and by Carraro, Transfer case by Tremec, Frame and suspension development by Magna Steyr and a steering box that won't break your thumbs off-road - done right and then some!
Thanks
Crap engine
@@randyparmesan1383 The B58 is quickly becoming the new go-to performance engine, tons of people are pushing them to big power and having few problems, at factory power and with decent servicing i bet they'll last decades especially now that they're a few years old and the early problems like turbo seals have been resolved. BMW are also shoving it in everything, which bodes well for the ability to get parts.
@@randyparmesan1383 Projection?
"Describe the vehicle without saying G-Wagon" I'm sure was in his instructions for the sponsorship.
Really nice rig. Love the look and layout of the controls.
The Grenadier has a single turbo inline-six, and a de-tuned one at that. The BMW B58, rather than the twin turbo S58 from the M3/M4. In the Grenadier it makes 282 hp down from 380+, it's tuned for more low RPM torque. So it's exactly what you like, an unstressed BMW power unit. The B58 is an amazingly good engine, as most inline-six's are.
Same lump in my M240i X drive....
@@leccybadgerand my M140i.
@@chimps4gimps the b58 is in all bmw 40i cars
Love my M340i. B58 is a BEAST. Twin scroll turbo, virtually 0 Turbo lag.
My 240i is Stage 1-ed to 420 HP and a Gearbox flash. Pulls like a rocket :)
Ninja seems like one of the nicest guys you’d ever want to meet!! Always smiling!
He's smiling because of the future work when this breaks down. :)
He rubbed me the wrong way one that giveaway vid when he got the American car and just acted shitty about it. I lost all respect for him and won't watch him. I'm sure he doesn't care lol
I live in Nebraska and saw a silver one of these the other day! I was like holy crap thats one of those suvs Demuro was reviewing! Looked awesome. Still have yet to see a cyber truck. Goes right to your video!
Thanks for the video, I saw one in person,well driving in Oregon. Videos and pictures don't do it justice, seeing it in person was amazing, I haven't been that existed about a new vehicle in a long time.
The number of error lights is amazing! I cant wait till Hoovie buys one with all of them lit up!
Exactly my thoughts when I saw it. 😂
The lack of a gauge cluster in front of the driver is a huge miss
I own a Grenadier and not having the gauges in front of you gives you a much better view driving. Idiot lights are still in front of you in a small panel but Speedo etc I don’t look at that much anyway so they are not missed being in front of me.
@@tpresten a simple speedo could have been put in that panel and would have had 0 impact on visibility
Probably saves them & the customers alot of money on MSRP
Makes it a lot cheaper to make it left and right hand drive probably
@@griffinl921 they could have done it for less than $20
OMG the grenadier is my favorite vehicle!! So excited for this review and happy for you
Does the AC work? They come from the factory with AC system leaks, usually alloy pipes not welded properly.
Tyler and Doug will single handedly make this company blow up
An off brand defender rip off? No
It’s not off brand. It’s a continuation.
@@Printknight528 sounds like you need your mommy needs to buy you a cyber truck nobody cares about it being a rip off these ain't Pikachu cards
I don't understand buying any special edition Tesla. They aren't going to be collector cars. No one is going to be paying insane auction prices for any Tesla 50-60 years from now. They aren't much different than appliances, in my opinion. Very expensive appliances. But its like a refrigerator. You buy it, use it for 10-12 years, if you're lucky, it quits working and you buy another one.
I'm in Ohio and I haven't seen a Cybertruck yet. I've seen a ton of Rivians, though.
Can just imagine some "restomod'' DIY nuclear fusion powered 2025 Tesla rolling across Barrett Jackson in like 2075... 😂
@@_Frank_the_Tank 😂😂😂
The roadster is kind of a collector car
@@_Frank_the_Tank it's more likely going to be a gas engine swap like the V8 tesla lol when EVs finally fall out of fashion and they start hating on them like they did with diesel.
Then why are roadsters 160k+ 😂
So happy to see Hoovie get his hands on one of these. We will see what breaks. I have been looking at buying one for last few months, seems like a great deal
Save your money, its a very disappointing vehicle in many ways, not least the weight and performance plus that interior is terrible quality. Test drove it in the UK and wouldn't recommend it.
So happy that some company is producing old school type vehicles! Great review!
I really really like all those switches, such a cool aesthetic and a refreshing change from everything being controlled through a touch screen.
My guess, Tyler, is that since you're friend with Rich and Rich is persona non grata at Tesla, Tesla put you on their black list as well.
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I'm not so sure, I think he's right about the California/Texas thing. I'm not seeing them here in Florida and I typically see cars that are double the value of a cybertruck within the first mile of leaving my home. Haven't seen a single one at the Tesla delivery center either, but I only drive by there a few times a month
Wow, Tesla is really petty
@@kevinw4267 Indeed they are. They have a beef with Rich 'cuz he's shown over the years all the issues their cars had and how they didn't want people to fix their Tesla, yet, they got lots of customers because of him.
@@kevinw4267 Musk lacks the dignity required to fess up to his enabling sociopathic behavior, selective hearing via theft of freedom of speech rights definitely defines his being a hypocrite, he attempts to brand sociopathic behavior which is why telsa wants him off the board of directors, and every advertiser that stopped lining his pockets that he told to go F themselves.
It goes against his saying he was bullied as a kid in school, once he reached for a darth vader mask as a billionaire.
We're in Norcal we see a cybertruck every day somewhere round here, not including the one in our neighborhood. Those Grenadeirs are here too on the road and they look wicked cool! I think they're bigger than the G Wagons. Love that old school look!🔥🔥
The BMW B58 is a solid engine. We’ve seen examples with 250000 miles on them and they run as good as new. BMW actually changed how they gasket those engines by using rtv instead of rubber gaskets to help stop leaks. Toyota had a big hand in the design of the B58 and B48 used in the Supra.
Those axles are made by Cararro which is an Italian heavy equipment manufacturer. For a first iteration, the Grenadier is a beast of an off-roader. That vague steering on road is a fantastic thing to have off road since that steering design won’t spin back at you and snap a finger. Mine will be here soon!! 👍🏻😎👍🏻
You’d think a company that values good parts would have selected something other than a BMW engine to power their very first model.
dam near lost a thumb like that once.
ha, I JUST posted the same about snapping a finger.....(cuz I was speaking from experience haha)
@@illinoistiger8694like what? And don’t say Toyota, because even IF Toyota were willing to supply it, they wouldn’t certify one of the legacy naturally aspirated 6’s for more than 10 years on emissions (not enough power anyhow). Toyota is fully committed to hybrid- which is NOT what Grenadier owners want to see. And I don’t exactly see Middle Eastern arms dealers lining up for a LS or Cummins diesel. BMW was a great call as a global platform to serve all markets. Americans buying Bronco Raptors and putting them on 37’s are not their target market - not even in the US.
If you are getting your fingers snapped offroad, you are holding your wheel wrong. Thumbs OUT, along the edge, fingers wrapped on OUTSIDE of wheel not inside. That way if it does counterspin. Your hand gets flung off and out of the way.
Car dealerships always annoyed me but post 2020 they are the absolute worst. They mark up their vehicles big time and worst of all cancel your order or deal because they were able to sell it to someone else for more. Same issue we had with a Toyota dealership over a Rav 4 Prime. We never negotiated on the price. We paid what they asked and on top of that paid an additional $6000 for warranty and extra coverage and what did they do? Cancel our deal because some random customer was willing to pay $1000 more.
AMEN
That is bad but I prefer a dealership over an online order. Out here in Germany there were no mark ups. So you pay msrp or negotiate down.
I say find a hooptie Rivian RS1.
That sounds like a Toyota dealer issue. At my ford store you only pay MSRP or whatever you prenegotiated for orders. The only issue is they are taking a long time to fulfill.
paying MSRP for a standard issue / spec car in America is ludacris. There's a dealership on every corner. I have never paid above invoice, nor will I. Just have go be patient.
I LOVE THE INEOS GRENADIER!!!! I specked one myself on the website and here’s what I did:
Trim: Trialmaster which comes with steel wheels standard, a ladder, snorkel, interior compass, and a diff lock i think.
Color: Sela Green which is just gorgeous
Price for the trialmaster is like $79.4k but with the color I chose that was like $385 I think so it increased it to like $79,770 which is not bad at all
As far as i've read, in order to create this car, they went to the best manufacturers in their respective fields, and ordered parts accordingly. For example, the axles are made by Carraro, which is a big tractor manufacturer.
Thanks for sharing 🫡
And they went to BMW for an engine????? Was really digging this thing until they mentioned the BMW inline six. Maybe the newer ones have the bugs all worked out, but when BMW first debuted the turbo six about 10-15 years ago it had all kinds of problems. Really I wish they had stuck a Ford "coyote" 5.0 V8 in it. Or a GM "LS" V8 with the cylinder deactivation turned off.
@@AaronSmith-kr5yfb58 is literally the best engine in the world right now all things considered. Toyota went to bmw for b58
@@AaronSmith-kr5yf You're talking about N55s.
The B58 is a different and much better engine, they are a downpipe and flash tune away from over 400rwhp and have shockingly few known big reliability problems, at the moment the biggest you'll find are valve cover gaskets leaking, the early turbos had bad seals and started burning oil/coolant (fixed by now) and the water pump should be replaced every 100,000km or so.
B58s will do 600hp+ at which point you're breaking everything else in the drivetrain, at factory power they will be perfectly reliable.
@@damstachizz I'm still a skeptic, BMW and reliability are like matter and anti-matter. I will give BMW credit, their older naturally aspirated inline 6's from the 80's/90's/00's were pretty damn good except for the plastic bits in water pump/radiator. Just the rest of the car fell apart/shorted out long before it should have.
the AC leak under warranty I'm 99% sure is a loose bolt on the manifold where you fill it right at the top of the engine on the right. There have been quite a few leaks all from the same place.
Together with a split pipe as well.
I daily a 1969 Series Land Rover so that steering looks sports car sharp
I bet!!
same here with a 1971, anything without a quarter turn of play is sharp to me
I see a Cyber Truck every single day now driving around Lake Tahoe.
This is a cool truck, really actually love it. The interior has a nice mix of switches and new things. Exterior is a work of art, looks like a polished version of a GTA car. Only gripe is that there are not analog gauges.
I chuckled watching Hoovie wiggling that steering wheel making comparisons to trucks 20-30 years ago. I have a 2000 Ford F250 With leaf springs on all 4 corners and recirculating ball steering box. Anybody that drives these old beast knows that steering is more of a suggestion!
I did too. This is sharp compared to a British army series 2 Land Rover with tall off road tyres. You could swing the wheel 6" either direction without changing course. 70mph on the motorway felt like re-entry in an Apollo. Blurred vision, everything rattling, knobbly tyres screaming. Good times
@@Carlos1180fun, wasn’t it?
@@RichieRichpobutproud yeah, modern vehicles are just too civilised lol. That's fine for the commute but sometimes it's fun to have the gear stick come off in your hand or ponder what that new noise is and if it might kill ya 😂
I always called it "driving by negotiation with the steering wheel"
It reminded me of when Clarkson test drove a F 150 on Top Gear in England.
It had a full 1/4 of a turn, before the truck would change direction.
And his complaint was They're selling these every 4 seconds! 😂
Those overspeed warnings are being sold to your insurance provider, any vehicle with blue tooth and wifi are collecting vehicle data and selling it to insurance companies.
Except those running on the obsolete 3G cell network.
Opt out you just lose some vehicle features sometimes. Have it turned off in my 2021 Silverado and the wife's 2023 Pathfinder. Doesn't directly say that you can opt out but it's the report feature typically for the manufacturer. I just turn it off and no more selling my information to State Farm or whatever company wants to buy it. I also refuse to subscribe to Onstar and the Nissans whatever and have to turn that off as it's usually enabled by the dealer when you get the "free" trial period. You didn't think they made all the $$ from just subscribers I hope!
@jeffs4690 good work usually the sales man tends to set it up for you and accepting terms and conditions that you did not agree with #,deceptive practices.
Absolutely love the interior, that button setup is just freakin awesome.
That is pretty cool!! I'm just so glad it's old school and not an EV. They will definitely sell!
BMW B58 and ZF 8 speed is an excellent drivetrain. The B58 even has Toyota’s seal of approval. It is very under stressed if it’s tuned to make under 400hp.
It only makes 280ish on these. It's tuned for low end torque.
The Ineos Grenadier is exactly the vehicle id go for, nice and basic, rugged, no carpets, perfect farm vehicle. A great successor to the old school land rover discovery.
Let’s be real. There’s nothing basic about it really.
It's close to 100k
To be fair the Grenadier is kinda shit. Non paid reviewers are less than enthusiastic about it.
Congrats , you
e rich or you'll be 100k in the hole. Good luck
Geezus, skipper just scared the crap outta me Hoovie!! LOL 🤣
I like it! The bmw drive train makes me a little nervous once if it comes off the warranty, but other than that, it's very appealing, and I could use something like this for my family. Unfortunately, we aren't financially stable right now to buy anything without sacrifices that would hurt us. Hopefully, in the near future, good fortune or luck will find my family helping us to be able to afford one of these. Love the model you tested. Thanks for another great informative video!
If it was a Toyota drive train, I’d order one tonight
Go for the Ineos! I'm a Brit, but live in Cape Town and last December, deep (and I mean deep) in the bush in Botswana, came across a UK plated Ineos which was being driven around Africa by its owner (having been shipped to Cape Town from the UK). He was really enjoying the vehicle. I've checked one out at our local dealership here in CT and am very tempted as its so much more interesting than the Toyota Prado/Land Cruiser which everyone goes for down here. Also happen to own a 2008 BMW 530D Touring, which has the same engine as the diesel Ineos (well its older cousin) and its a near bullet proof unit.
That ineos grenadier is a great vehicle
Till they run down and lock you out and won't recharge.
It's called the Grenadier because it has a German engine.
@@JSFGuy it's not electric
@@herbiehusker1889in Australia they have the diesel b57 motor and they are insanely reliable engines
Agreed but I still think its too expensive.
B58B30C: 250 kW (335 HP)
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2020 J29/DB Toyota Supra[29]
2022-present Ineos Grenadier (detuned to 286 hp)
Hey Tyler, in Dallas there was an existing BMW dealership that opened an Ineos arm which has been great. Since the powertrain is BMW it’s easy to get serviced.
Tyler, could we get an update on that BEAUTIFUL custom van? That just cranks my tractor.
czcams.com/video/1YTa2fwFGbY/video.html
It's only a frame on body SUV if you roll it onto it's roof, I think.
Lol. I caught that too.
@@chrisnorcross618 2x even
I already configured 15 INEOS.....! So cool and done right!
It's got good ground clearance. That's important for the heavy snow areas in the midwest.
I just spotted a Cyber Truck on Facebook marketplace in Tennessee for sale this past weekend. Advertised for $147,000. ONE HUNDRED & FOURTY SEVEN THOUSAND.
Absolutely gawwwwd damn ridiculousness.
That is the lowest price I've seen a Cybertruck being resold. A lot of them in both Texas and Cali are being resold for $200k or more.
I still remember my friend, at the time of the showcase, saying these will be affordable ev alternatives to full size trucks. Man I wish I still kept in touch cause I’d love to see his reaction to these prices lol
There’s a sucker born every minute comes to mind.
That interior is what i pictured 10 years ago would be the way higher end cars evolved to. Tons of tactile buttons but it looks super modern and you can learn by time to feel the proper switches out instead of losing focus. Steering wheel and ceiling looks absolutely loaded up too with high quality buttons and switches. Only complaint is having the speedometer off on a centre screen. A couple gauges with RPM and speed would've have made this a 10/10 interior. If this was a their first truck i'm seriously impressed. Looks so good on the outside too.
Agreed! A panel belong right in front to reduce angular glare cutting vision and reflecting from external sources. The most obvious poor feature. Very many switches and dials but it is what it is. wouldn't buy one myself.
Also, what you can't see here, is that every button is installed on a 2mm thick aluminium plate that feels very sturdy. Not plastic, but powder coated metal. It's very satisfying to touch.
I've test driven one in the UK, the only real awful defect I found is that the right hand drive one have terrible brake pedal placement (the exhaust is in the way). That's only on right hand drive vehicles tho, because the left hand drive is absolutely normal from this point of view. Visibility is fine, everything on it seems very sturdy and overbuilt like you would like on an offroading vehicle, there is already a decent amount of accessories with more to come, I honestly like it.
As Tyler said, you can't but a rugged Suv and be surprised when it drives like a rugged Suv.
The only reason for having a rule in the contract that you can't sell your new veicle when you get it is because they are closing of the possibility to buy it without giving money in forhand so they have money to make the veicle and delivering whenever....
I love these things! I drive past 50+ of these at the local dealer every day on my way to work in Colorado Springs. They all have sold signs in the windows; I think the Grenadier will be wildly successful if they can get dealer infrastructure in place!
was looking at the grenadier cpl weeks back..always loved the Defender 90 and 110 since a kid.. its very tempting to take the plunge on one of these
I love the look of them. Hearing that the BMW drivetrain is a reliable one from the Car Ninja definitely makes me want one now.
I’m glad you got to review this Hoovie because I’m been curious about this this thing and now I’m going to look at buy one for the wife. Btw you stated twice in the video “frame on body”??
I’m kinda with Hoovie on controls. I got a loaner BMW while getting mxs done. The AC was blasting and there were no physical controls to fix it. I spent another twenty minutes in my driveway trying to figure out how their temp control worked. Having physical controls is still way better. Sure, you can put it in yet another screen, but it’s harder to adjust overall.
There are a few in the Myrtle Beach area. I do like them. I spoke to one of the owners and she said that they loved it.
The Land Rover Defender name applies to vehicles made since 1990. Previous models such as the Series 1 and Series 3 were just called Land Rover.
Yeah where still basically built on the same chassis only real difference was coil springs. They even carried over the hole in the rear cross member from the original Landy so the "farmer" could run a p.t.o to power up farm implements.
The naming convention for the various iterations of the classic “Defender” style vehicle was
Land Rover
Land Rover Series 2
Land Rover Series 3
Land Rover 90/110 (depending on wheelbase - the numbers referring to this measurement in inches)
Defender
They’re the model names - there were many variants that added differences into vehicle names. For instance the 5 door version of the ‘80s 110 could be had in County spec, meaning the model name of that variant would be Land Rover 110 County.
It’s all very confusing. That’s before various Range Rovers and Discoveries enter the conversation.
The grenidier also competes with the Nissan patrol y61 still produced for uae it also competes with the 70series LandCruisers
Love the old school button setup inside. Sure beats the trend where all the controls are within a stupid table slapped on top of the dashboard.
The Cybertruck is ugly anyway.
Horrifically ugly. And somehow that’s the least of its problems
Nearly as fugly as a Ssanyong Stavic
I have given up on the Elio. It was a great car concept. They took pre-orders but luckily I did not put one down. My goal was to wait until they were out, pay cash for one, and drive it home as a road trip. It never happened.
I live near Shreveport. The Elio was a scam from day one. Elio (the man) seems to have disappeared with the millions he got from the taxpayers to fund his scam.
@@neiljohnson6815 I have lost track after a while, but I'm glad I didn't send any money in.
theyre in pa. atleast 5 went through my job at manheim auction. have also seen one driving on the road with non dealer plates.
I just saw a semi hauling 6 cyber trucks yesterday when I was coming home from San Fransisco on Hwy 5.
We've had our Grenadier for 4 months and absolutely love it!! So many people stop us at the gas station and ask questions about it.
We took it on a road trip a few weeks ago and gosh it was surprisingly comfortable up front.... the kids in the back... not so much.
That thing is an absolute beast. We are fortunate to have gotten ours from one of the largest dealers in America, Sewell BMW of Plano, and they have been amazing with their support and service.
B58 I believe. One of the best BMW engines made. They learned a lot from the awful N54 and slightly better N55. I do think it is a single turbo not a twin turbo though. Twin scroll maybe.
Bmw engines are crap these days. My frie d got a mini with bmw engine... and already had issues with reduced power with only 100 000km... 😂😂😂
BMW and best made never go together! The old BMW Pig Nosed cars have always been a rip off.
@@peterpanini96That does not sound like a modern bmw engine. The b58, which is also in the supra, is an amazingly reliable engine from BMW.
You don't even know how many turbos the engine has. But still claim it to be the best BMW engine. LMAO. Or as car dealers call you. Useful idiot.
If u look it up bmw is one of the most reliable cars in 2024
Our first 1234 Freon charges on Malibus at GM were reported to be around $800 per car.
On a weekend trip to Mississippi and back through Alabama, I saw at least four different Cyber Trucks on I24 on two different car transporters.
My granddad had a 72 Chevy C10 and the lazy steering on it was actually pretty comfortable and relaxing. The brakes not so much.
Let’s go Hoovie!!!! Wild that I started watching you before the Apollo days and we’re here now. You’re the best! Happy that you picked up the Grenadier :)
Did you watch the video? He hasn’t bought one
@@dominicparker6804 Admittedly did not, lost access to WiFi due to being on a flight and just regained access now.
You had me at toggle switches
[...] you see, Timmy, when a Defender and a G-Wagon love each other very much....
Larger gas doors are better for filling from a can.
Never considered that.
"vague wandering steering" literally every front solid axle ever. You want off-road? or on road? someone always has to complain about something.
It’s hoovie… the most off roading he’s ever done is drive his land rover in his backyard.
I disagree but okay
@@BSFJeebus Seems like you just want something to gripe about, you should seek help for that.
Love the old school look👍...skeptical of the BMW part, and all the modern electronics. Hope it's a success!...They need to resurrect some more old school designs.
the bmw b58 is definitely a good engine for this car, and very reliable compared to the older tubo i6 engines like n54
A genuine truck vs. a toaster? Love the Grenadier.
My life has improved since finding Hoovie and Kitboga. I laugh a ton more, and I get an adrenaline rush and goosebumps from loving cars so much
*11:54** Except they did not save a penny* , by still including that warning lights display they created 2 versions of the dash for LHD and RHD, even the shape of the dash was asymmetrical so it would never work as an universal cost cutting solution,
LCD instrument panels looks cheap, they really should have went the extra mile and put some stepper motors spinning needles and a front lit gauge cluster.
Even with a questionable reliability, not a surprise in short time the Grenadier will retain it's value and even appreciate, while the Cybertruck after this hype, is mounting in scrapyards to rebirth as kitchen appliances.
I'm pretty sure grenadiers are already trading below sticker price on BAT and C&B. I have seen no sales on both sites
My thought too. In 15/20 years or likely before the Inios will still be a viable and desirable vehicle. The Cybertruck? Not so much.
@@ArcofZen That is already happening with LR Defenders. I know people that bought LR Defenders some years ago as an alternative to pick-ups, and they had terrible reliability not handling the use an abuse. Even so they retained their value impressively well.
BMW's B58 is their most reliable and tuneable modern engine. Very powerful, too, at least in a car. The problem with the Grenadier is how heavy it is, and most buyers elsewhere will be buying a diesel with loads more torque, which will better suit the truck. For someone wanting to go off-road a lot, the B58 probably isn't ideal, especially in such a heavy truck. For your G-Wagon buyer on a budget, who never goes off-roading, it should be more than adequate.
In 10 years the batteries in all the cyber trucks will fail and when they refuse to sell new batteries they will all be gone.
Ive been seeing Cybertrucks more and more often here in Colorado, There is one at the Tesla Dealership in my town for sale its been there for like a month now.
Others have mentioned the Carraro axles - long established Italian manufacturer of tough 4wd axles used by most tractor manufacturers. There is a pickup and chassis cab version as well and a smaller 4wd coming along in the future. Grenadier designed from the start to attract specialist independent suppliers of aftermarket accessories and done by a bunch of ex-Mercedes Benz engineers who had previously worked on the G Wagen. Jim Ratcliffe initally wanted to buy the old Defender tooling but JLR refused. The toot button is designed to politely warn when passing cyclists and horse riders - coincidence that Ineos sponsors its own cycling racing team? The Grenadier pub is from where a pair of Land Rovers set out to drive to Singapore back in the 50's.
Agree with a lot of what you said, but I am of the opinion that dealership networks are anti-consumer. They try to squeeze as much money out of you as possible. To us normal folk, thousands of extra dollars is a lot of money. However, I do think there should be a middle ground; being able to order cars online for cheaper, but if you want the dealer experience, you can go pay extra to experience that.
Also, anti right to repair is insanely anti consumer. When products are deliberately made in such way that only a dealer can repair it.
I live in San Jose, California and around the Bay Area, Mountain View, and Sunnyvale. There are hundreds of cyber trucks. You see them all day every day driving around.
I live in a free state. I've never seen one in the wild.
Sounds exactly like the proper habitat for a Cybertruck
I like the Grenadier. But I do wish they had a short wheelbase 2 door version and a manual transmission version. The full sized Grenadier is just too big (long) for European parking garages.
Cybertrucks are all over the roads here in San Diego. Don't buy one. It's not worth it. However, in about 5 to 10 years when their "stainless steel" panels are all rusty, THEN you can buy one as a hooptie.
They won't be any more "rusty" than DeLoreans are
@@Christoph-sd3zi Actually there have been several reports of Cybertrucks suffering from bad rust on the "stainless" panels. Unlike DeLoreans. That is why I put Cybertruck "stainless steel" in quotes.
@@Christoph-sd3ziDeloreans are better made. Teslas rust after a slight rain shower
There are 5 Cybertrucks at the dealership in KC right now. Just give them a call.
In Colorado Springs about 2 months ago there were 10-12 at a dealership all sold
It's like a modern day, SUV version Family Truckster!! "If you think you hate it now, wait until you drive it!"
Imagine how the people who have ordered a roadster and paid it off already but still don’t have the car built lol 😂
No one has paid it off lol, you were only able to put a deposit not make a full payment premature
@@BCJDM I’m pretty certain there were people that put the full list price as their downpayment if I’m recalling correctly. I may be wrong but I distinctly remember it being a big deal that people weren’t getting cars they’d paid for already
@@JacksonOffroad25 Very sure too you had to pay the full amount.
Going to be ten years soon that Roadster still hasn't been delivered. 😂
I'm very interested in the Grenadier -- can't wait to see how they hold up compared to the old Defenders.
Way better built. No comparison. They are built better than any new Rover as well
Living in midwest, I saw a cyber truck first time on the street. My first impression is… like driving a refrigerator on the road. Looking under the sun, body panels are waving… not a truck for me.
Both of there factories are in Texas and California. Makes sense saves on shipping them.
One thing I hate with new age cars is lack of a center cluster screen. I don’t want to look over to my radio to see my speed. So silly. I’ll take it a step further too, I kind of miss I’ll school analog tach/speedometers. The new digital clusters are cool and configurable, but man do I miss real gauges with a little screen in between the two to display things like distance til empty, mpg, mileage, etc.
yea, I kinda get a digital gauge cluster but having the speed in the middle is utterly ridiculous
@@Harry._.Thompson I don’t understand how this hasn’t been addressed. I don’t need a 60” long screen that stretches the entire width of the car. Give me a guage cluster, whether analog or digital, and give me a screen. It’s all getting so out of hand now
@@BurghAleAddict all Tesla’s fault, lol !
@@Harry._.Thompson have you never seen a Mini Cooper?