Exploring the Attitude Games Pack for DOS PCs
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2023
- Found and bought this early 90s shareware package recently. It looks wonderfully homemade. So let’s dive in and see what’s what!
Download the disk images here: archive.org/details/attitude-...
I'm sure this has been said before, but thank you so much for archiving everything you find! Even if it's something some people may find "silly" or "mundane," the archivist in me still appreciates what you've done!
My pleasure!
I agree. I have been binge watching LGR videos for about 2 weeks now and have enjoyed most of them. I love the Colabs with Sarah (PushingUpRoses,) the hardware reviews, the Oddware, and a lot of the software reviews. Anything Sim or Maxis related I do skip because I am not interested in them (sorry Clint,), but some of the software from the early 80's to mid 90's is quite fascinating. Like listening to an expert History teacher. I never really had PC's growing up, not until the Late 90's when I was in my late 20's. I had an Amiga before that and I loved it. But I wanted a more capable machine in both Hardware and Software. Anyway, thanks again Clint for everything you do. I love the way you never swear or use any bad language. Just wholesome, family fun.
@@yogibear2k220 stay hydrated
@@yogibear2k220 no cussing. Just lots of talk about balls. I liked your comment, but you lost me at no cussing. Nothing wrong with letting one fly on occasion. Tastefully of course though.
Lol. I made my balls comment before seeing the 8:00 ish part of the video!
The top two high scores on Blue Balls are John Holmes and Amber Lynn.
I get it.
Looks like something somebody made back in the 90's to sell shareware titles at a flea market!
Flea Markets are a gold mine lol
I used to see that in the 90s now and then.
Yeah exactly, that's what I thought..
God Bless 90's shovelware.
Bloody expensive shovel.
I disagree. God damn it all to Hell!
Bananoid is an mostly unknown but legendary piece of programming. If I recall correctly, it was made to prove just how capable VGA is. It was made in the early days of video cards with that standard appearing.
The "divide error" is usually due to the CPU being too fast (though not always), VGA Sharks might run if you use Mo'Slo or such and really, really slow the CPU down.
Ultima 2.
Yup, was going to reply with exactly this, and to try MOSLO or something like it. The divide error usually occurs when a program TRIES to account for the CPU speed, but fails because it's so much faster than what it expected that the math for the timing calculations overflows.
It's about time Clint covered the Attitude Era.
I need him to play the Myth II demo he has.
Austin 3.16 says I just whooped Clint's ass
The best era of WWE
@@chrismacrae6990 twas still wwf
He would have loved the WWE Eco-Friendly Daniel Bryan Championship Belt. Oak & Hemp sounds very LGR
Not to diminish your regular videos, they definitely show the work you put into them. I really really love these "just a nerd gets a hold of some cool shit" videos. I appreciate that we can join in on the joy you get from just playing with something dope
It's more true to the lazy game review deep lore
Indeed. It's such a throwback to my teenage years and DOS. I can still spit those commands out like it was thirty years ago!
never even seen a pink floppy disk before, neat.
Me neither! I think the only other color I've ever seen other than black for 5.25 was blue
@@Linuxpunk81 I had a few bright yellow ones. I wonder where they are.
@@Linuxpunk81 I have _Red Storm Rising_ for the Commodore 64 on a bright red disk that matches the box.
Yeah often companies (and people) used to use the term Public Domain to describe Shareware, even if it’s incorrect. You can see the same thing going on with old Amiga Mags here in the UK.
Same in German Amiga magazines. Freeware, shareware and free open source software were often collectively called "public domain".
This is likely bleedover from cheap video publishers like Goodtimes who at the time would just barely skirt under the radar knocking off Disney movies and copying them verbatim then saying its "public domain" because Disney also copied the stories from old books. But the issue was Goodtimes wasn't copying the books and making their own rendition they were copying Disney and intentionally designing the covers to trick people. People got the idea seeing them do that "oh well thats public domain so is this". Still happens today.
Bananoid was one of my favorite games back in the day. And yes, very much an Arkanoid clone, but I still loved it.
Super Fly is one I remember having played. I think the main challenge was that if you get trapped by dead flies, you lose, so you have to be careful when you're killing them that you don't trap yourself.
Darn It had two prompts when you hit Quit, one to "Quit this deck" followed by "Play again", and LGR kept hitting "Yes" to both.
Captain Comic and Commander Keen were definitely favorites as well, and depending on the version, Mahjongg. Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy were definitely on the disks my school would let kids play when they finished whatever assignment was given out.
And $50 is way too much to be charging for a Shareware collection, so many of those will state "not allowed to charge more than necessary for distribution", and that package did not cost the company $50. I love that all the disks are labeled "IMPORTANT", too.
I remember sleeping over at my friends place and spending the whole night eating pizza and exploring through a game pack like this on his Compaq in the mid 90’s.
Those were the days! Even still the old C-64 was a treat to explore. There were SO MANY weird and wonderful programs around then. No real genres had been established and developers would just throw things at the wall to see what stuck. Great times.
Oh man, simpler times.
Why didn't you have Real, p,irated games to play..??
This video is a perfect example of my younger days trying to get stuff to run. Flashbacks galore, thanks for what you do matey.
6:45 And this, in a nutshell, is why I don't miss the DOS days all that much. (And thank the gods for DOSBox!)
DOS had it's good points. I appreciated the surgical like precision of my commands and the fact that I always knew every corner of my hard-drive.
I haven’t heard the term “PD” (public domain) in a long time - since my c64 days…!
Since the Amiga ones for me (Haven't heard of C64 back then)
8:39 Interesting high score table names there. When I was at college we had a textbook and the author was B. J. Holmes and my college friend called it the "Big John Holmes" book.
Not Big Johnson Holmes?
Regarding the "PD games" thing, you're right, it did mean public domain. "PD" was a heavily used term in the Commodore/Amiga scene especially.
And usually included freeware and shareware (not registered games, of course) iirc.
I can see why they were pd. They weren't worth anything. That's what this vid illustrates so clearly. Rickety games programmed by rickety geeks.
I inherited a huge box of PD disks with my Amiga 500. The best one (I was 13) was toilets that sang 'Smooth Criminal'. I wish I could find that now.
@@festivitycat LOL!
It amazes me how many of those programmers straight up put their home addresses on their title screens without fear. I guess back before email was common it was the best way for contact.
Software p,irates used to put their physical home add,ress details on underground disk-based magazines too..
4:20 Typing "dir" before the drive has loaded. Such memories.
Gotta take advantage of that keyboard buffer!
LOL Please do more of these. Seeing and hearing you explore the weird, weird worlds of shareware games is endlessly entertaining
$49.95 for public domain games. Ahh the early days of PC gaming.
Yikes! Ripoff City! :( Oiiii
Yeah, those were made for the adults of the time who didn't know anyone to copy games from!
Early days of PD gaming, apparently
Just keep playing :) Love to see you picking random games and giving thoughts about them.
$50 USD in 1990 is almost $120 USD today. Ambitious pricing!
especially for stuff that is free.
It's WTF pricing. It's 'in their ****ing drewms' pricing. It's 'they can go suck c**ks in hell' pricing.
Woah, more expensive than today's triple A deluxe editions.
@@joe--cooli mean, internet was hardly a thing and access to BBSes was not available to everybody.
I laughed so hard by the way he said "adult pack should be sixty niiine ninety five if ya know what I mean 😏"
I could watch this sort of thing all day long! Spent far too many hours playing Amiga PD, shareware and demos as a kid, and wouldn’t change that for the world :)
Imagine doing all of those DOOM level compilation discs. Thousands of levels.
Yeah, I knew the guy who (briefly) had the job of assembling the monthly cover-mounted CDROM for PC Format (or some similar Future Publishing title) in ~1995. Literally all he did all month was assembly endless folders full of doom levels and other freeware from FTP sites. Awful non-job.
Check Dwars if you want something kinda like that, but his is all streams, but i think they tend to have chapters.
Tarnsmandw on twitch did a playthrough of entirety of maximum doom, you can find it in his clip archives. He only cited 36 maps by end of it that he really liked.
@@DaveF. Not really, he got to play some cool levels and games in the process.
@@UltimatePerfection In theory, yes. But only like 10% of those were good.
Attitude Game Pack
Useing windows 3.0 Chess wallpaper. Seems legit
14:28 The Divide Error is because your CPU is too fast. There was a common problem with Turbo Pascal applications (and there was a patch), though I don't know if this is the exact Turbo Pascal issue, but I'm 99% sure it's a CPU Speed issue. Time for a Even-More-Wood-Grainy-386?
Probably is that, but it's not Turbo Pascal. TP says "Runtime Error 200" when it divides by zero.
Hmmm. Maybe this is better suited for a 286 PC?
That score table for Blue Balls. Some notable people on there! ;-)
Blue ball go down the hole
9:16 I didn't know that a fellow Eau Claire resident programmed a game back then. I live near that area and used to live on that street. How wild.
With 45% more 'tude, no doubt.
I remember seeing a lot of these back in the 90's where they just took a bunch of shareware and put them on a CD or disks and sold them for anywhere from $5 to $30. I mean back when dial-up was basically your only option, and games like Doom were 20MB, this was a good option to get a large quantity of games for a small price (probably just covered the cost of the media and time to duplicate the games by the vendor).
*11:54* Hahah I love that little version of The Internationale! Robert Roberds at BSX International was/is a comrade
Also the names in the high scores for Blue Balls were quite on the nose
I was so taken aback that it took me a few seconds to recognize the song when it started playing
That was very funny
Something about this compilation and the design of the packaging this reminds me of the kind of software my late grandfather would have on his old shareware-laden 286
You are simply the coolest. Your videos always make my day!
Bananoid!! I used to play this back in the day! Man I haven't thought about that game in 25 years.
Reminds me of the stuff that used to get sold at computer swap meets on a Sunday in my town. That and Walnut Creek shareware compilation CDs
I laughed out loud at your exasperated, "See, this is why I don't do shareware compilations!"
I'm loving the existing names on the BlueBalls leaderboard.
Love the diy aesthetic of the packaging
This is a classic example of, what can go wrong, will go wrong! Typical for these types of bundles, but hey, I'm sure you'll get some hours of frustration out of it!
The "time passes..." got me, thank you for this dos adventure.
Those pinkish floppies....I love it!
11:54 - That song is The Internationale!
_Stand up, all victims of oppression_
_For the tyrants fear your might_
_Don't cling so hard to your possessions_
_For you have nothing if you have no rights_
This reminds me of the early keypunch videos we need more of this random software.
No... please.... for godsakes...no!!!!!!!!!! : )
Its fun looking up the addresses for these ancient games and seeing whats there 30 years later.
Music school, dumpy apartment complex…
That’s an awesome PC speaker version of the internationale I hear! Workers of the world Unite.. this includes shareware programmers!
I played a bunch of SuperFly in the day, it was weirdly addictive. A mainstay of shareware compilations, too... pretty sure Game Empire had it, as did most of the computer show homebrew compilations I had.
An ad started playing right after Clint exclaimed "Blue balls?!", and I'm not entirely sure it was a coincidence...
15:42 “ I need to save the endangered hurkle”
“Oh I killed it” 🤣🤣
We appreciate the effort you put into this. The struggles of computers sometimes. And we love the content :) Thanks
8:52 The names on the high score for Blueballs LOL
I would love to see more. I get a kick out of these kind of old game compilations
Just want to say thanks for archiving your games and including the link
I played a lot of these on a 386 SX as a kid. I love Super Fly, it is an oddly addictive game.
I loved SuperFly as a kid.
Superfly Jimma Snuka? Lol
Yay I've been waiting for you to go back to stuff like this
My Senior Drill Sergeant in the Army was Tommy Thomas.
"We tested all these games but we didn't proofread our own box"
what a wonderful shade for those floppies! Eggbug color.
I love obscure titles. Keep up the great work!
these remind me of the Games we were not supposed to play on GOV work PC< but hey there all DOS games, one i miss is the banana toss game, and there was nuke game( set protectory and blow the other city up) when sitting on ship, crossing the Atlantic do what you can pass time, or in your work center waiting for Aircraft to return from training flight. good old days of DOS . 90's beginning of my NAVY days. good times.
I loved Bananoid as a kid. I played it all the time.
Ah, the joys of shovelware.
wow mario bros man is still remember playing them on my cousin's win 95 pc in my childhood days.lots of nostalgia.....
I don't understand your frustration while installing Clint, you're reliving the real deal of back then! 🤣😉
Oh wow, this one brings me back, my parents bought us a Jewel Case CD of a Game Collection called, "Game Empire", it had a ton of shareware games, and the original Duke Nukem, along with a bunch of other random ones I'd never played like VGA Trek, and that Fly Game was also on it, so I instantly had flash backs to those old days. I have no idea what happened to that game, but it sure had a bunch of Games listed that I never found on there, like it listed Duke Nukem 3D, but I never found it ever on the Disc, along with several other games.
LGR and Pushing Up Roses actually went through 2 different versions of Game Empire on Pushing Up Roses' channel several years ago!
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And
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we had that too! googled the cover after the name sounded familiar, good times
Still have Game Empire volumes 1 and 2. Haven't messed with them in ages, and if i ever do mess with them again I'll probably grab them off the Internet Archive because my discs are so beat up half the games don't load because I really sucked at taking care of optical media when I was a little kid lol.
I truly love how loud your 486 is! I kinda miss it.
The attitude in this video is off the chart :D
Only $49.95. What a deal!
It's okay Clint only paid $33!
Too much POWER for the Attitude Games Pack!
2 blerbs in one week? Fantastic
I feel that it is a kind of madness on LGR's part. 🙂
PC speaker for sound and graphic driver nightmares, oh the 80's and very early 90's hell.
I remember getting Bananoid via shareware back in the 90s. Good times.
Great reference to ADG also. I bet lots of your viewers watch that show too!😊
That they do, lots of overlap!
@@LGRBlerbs more great videos for all. Cheers!
Oof. That reminds me of the virtual deluge of shareware titles the dept. store I worked at (Schottenstein's in Columbus OH; Value City elsewhere) was getting in the mid-1990s. We got them on both 5.25" and 3 1/2" floppies, for a buck each. Since people were beginning to get computers at the time, they sold decently, but what we had left got red-tagged after a few months.
You haven't LIVED as an associate till, when asking a customer if they had a color monitor, they proudly reply; "Yes, it's green".
The names on the screen at 8:40 may be a hint that you indeed have the adult pack. If blue balls wasn't enough of a... tip. As far as i remember bananoid had terrible controls, your gameplay was way good than i ever did.
I can really clearly see what is on the screen. You capture it so well it looks simulated
Thanks!
Holy Crap! SuperFly! Childhood memory unlocked! My grandparents had that on their computer when I was a kid!
omg I always loved going over there to play on the computer. Wild how I've forgotten that over the years
Those floppies are really really cool looking!
It's the best and only worthy feature of these games packages. 🙂
Bananoid was by far the best Breakout clone for the PC. I'm still playing it today occasionally.
Finally some much needed software review
I remember some other shareware collection packs, had alot of fun late friday nights after school in the late 80's/early 90's exploring some odd pack you found at the PC store LOL
I remember back in the day almost all software I was getting were such home made releases, some of it was shareware too... You could bring them back and swap out for something else too.
My first impression of the font on the box was of painful flashbacks of Ninja Nanny and Sherlock Sheltie
oh crap... it's the same font isn't it? Really close at least!
@@LGRBlerbs I think it's actually the same, just vertically streched. Check how the "a" is a continuous loop.
amazing game case Sir
Reminds me of your Keypunch games videos. They were nice and relaxing entertainment.
Bananoid was me and my friend's main version of Arkanoid throughout high school, ha! We also had Electranoid, which had more features, but I always liked Bananoid's dual-screen-width situation.
Yeah, PD Games = Public Domain games. That naming was used more in the UK I think, and implied completely free, not shareware which was like a trial licence. All my old Atari ST mags from England are filled with ads from Public Domain Libraries selling floppies stuffed with things that were free and you were technically paying only for the disc and service.
You could probably have fixed the "packed file is corrupt" error with "LOADFIX INSTALL"
This has something to do with programs created with ancient versions of EXEPACK sometimes breaking on newer versions of DOS
I was just about to suggest the same thing. It would have probably worked fine on DOS 3 or without himem.sys and XMS. I think LOADFIX just uses up all of the extra memory and makes sure no address below 64K is free so that the old program doesn't get confused.
You really have to question a man who plays a bunch of 1990 era games on a 486.
Even today these are (metaphorically )a dime a dozen. I typically find them in DVD-ROM form, usually at Walmart by the Xbox accessories.
Yeah in those compilation discs that has some outrageous number like "700,000" or "1,000,000" in the title.
Man, that bananoid brought back memories. My siblings and I played that game for hours.
I had that same BASIC games book when I was a kid. I should go dig it up at my dad's house and play some Hurkle!
Lol, i seem to recall you and PUR experiencing “Blueballs” (sorry, but it’s true 😄) in one of the DOS shovelware vids from back in the day 😄
I didn't know games such as Commander Keen, Mario and Joust were public domain. I have learned from this packaging. :D
Oh my God. I remember my dad bought a CD called "Atti-Toons", and it had handmade liner notes with the same font seen on this games pack. The CD contained a small collection of very pixely video files of public domain cartoons from the 30's and 40's, such as Greedy Humpty Dumpty and Herman Mouse. I think we found it at Egghead.
In this particular case, the term "public domain" would've been accurate, but I don't think the phrase was anywhere on it. I think I might still have it somewhere...
Oh man, Hurkle Hunt, that really takes me back...
So basically the guy moves to a random adjacent square after every move and you're supposed to trap him into a spot with no more squares for him to move to.
Like at 17:23 you almost had it, if you had shot the space below the one you did he would have been forced to move up to the corner, and *then* shooting the space you killed him at would have won.
I was thinking the interface and graphics of that game looked really familiar, then I noticed William Voss's name. I used to play another of his games a LOT back in the day: Revenge of the Killer Robots from Hell.
Man you are the greatest
lmao that high score list on BlueBalls 8:50
"Packed File Is Corrupt" is an error message that happens when you have too much conventional memory free. Every program built with a particular version of a compiler from Microsoft had a buggy EXE packer incorporated into there. If you waste some conventional memory, that will make it load, assuming it isn't actually corrupt.
"Ughhhh... I was tryin'a be lazy."
That's why we're here.