If you prayed at the time (or however long after), and put everything in God's hands, then all will be well. What feels like a cross at the time, if bravely accepted, will be seen later to have marvellous fruit. God bless you for praying for the many.
I lost a baby 30 years ago because I had a tubal pregnancy. Little did I know I could have had a Christian burial. I was 14 weeks along. Less than a week later my father passed from cancer. Fast forward a few years.. I dreamt that I saw my dad , much younger, wearing his marine uniform and he was holding a toddler in his arms. He was talking to me but I don’t know what he said… my eyes were on the baby. When I woke I was upset and a friend who I shared my dream with told me I was given a gift… Today I know it was. I never greaves for my baby because losing my dad was so hurtful. He was only 66 and he was buried on his 67 th birthday. Thank you Lord for giving me hope that one day we will be joined together as a family.
Dear Father Maudsley, I was born in 1955 and remember the beautiful traditional Mass well. The NO took over everywhere and I fell away in my youth. I returned when my children were born and had them all baptised and attend Catholic school. In my latter years I have grown to love the Traditional Mass but cannot attend it as I am chair bound. I asked the SSPX Priest if he could come out periodically and give me communion but said it was too far; the NO local Priest now comes out every 3 months and hears confession and gives Holy Communion while I otherwise watch Traditional Mass on line. My children have become agnostic and won't attend Mass at all. I don't feel happy and feel trapped in my situation; I do pray often!
Your prayers will avail much! If you persist in praying for your children to the end, never giving up hope, then God will honour that one way or another. And the less sign there is at the moment of the prayers bearing fruit, the more precious the prayers become in God's eyes because it shows the depth of your trust and faith. And if, as is normal, you predecease your children, you can continue to intercede for them from above, please God. I'll say a prayer for you all too. 🙏
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Your reply is so consoling for me. I shall try and remember this in my own situation with my ‘gay’ son Patrick. My wife and I pray very much for his conversion. Thank you.
Thank you. The teaching you mention (outside the Church there is no salvation) has been on my mind a lot lately. I live in an essentially pagan country (Japan). While there are some Christians here, they are very few relative to the whole population, and while most people have probably heard of Christianity, they know very little about it and generally do not understand it. Most don't even follow their traditional Shinto and Buddhist religions anymore--they are either effectively atheist or have only a vague sense of God and a spiritual world. This goes for the family I married into as well as most natives I've met here. There is also no Latin mass offered publicly anywhere in the country, and the propagandemic has rolled on with virtually no opposition and bishops or pastors still closing churches or limiting attendance, replacing holy water with alcohol sprays, and telling everyone to wear the mask of submission in spite of the obvious problem that the alleged "plague" never ends and the alleged "cases" have gone up 40x from 2 years ago and at least double from the injection rollout. (I use neither masks nor "sanitizers", but as far as I can tell I'm the only one in my parish and most of the places I've been.) Where do you begin when people don't even recognize such obvious falsehood, much less have a strong belief in anything beyond the material world?
Sounds very tough. Sorry I don't have any ready answers. But if you have, or if you can develop, a 'rule of life', this is an important discipline for surviving in hard environments. It could be, for example, a daily prayer routine: certain things which you will be sure to do every day, and others which you might do weekly or monthly. A basic rule would be (although I do not know your circumstances, or what you are doing already): - daily Rosary, daily Bible reading (5mins to 30mins, according to obligations / opportunity... but do the same every day: start small, build up slowly, until you find what works). If possible, 15-30mins mental prayer; 15-20 mins spiritual reading. Plus the Angelus and grace for meals. And morning and evening prayer, even if very short. - weekly: a different plan for Sunday. If you are doing all the above 6 days a week, then you might just pray the Rosary Sunday, and the Mass, and then whatever works. - monthly: Five First Saturdays devotion, or Nine First Fridays; and continue with these indefinitely as they are wonderful spiritual practices. I've written to much! I just mean to say, if you can keep a disciplined program, then that will help you come through where there is little support. And the stronger you are in yourself, then the better you will be able to witness to those around you. Forgive me if I have assumed too much! But I agree the widespread absurdities in the name of health can make us think mankind has completely lost the plot. When it invades the Church, it is more tragic still.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Thank you, that is all very helpful. Thanks to Fr. Altier and Fr. Altman, I've been doing some of these things already, like a daily Rosary and Divine Mercy Chaplet, and read the whole Bible from last year to this year. Lately I'm doing other reading (currently mostly visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich) as I have trouble focusing on more than one thing at a time or fitting much in consistently with the constantly changing schedules at home. I guess if I had to ask a couple specific questions, it would be what do you recommend for a simple morning and bedtime prayer, particularly so a young child and non-Catholic wife could participate? And what other simple prayers or reading could I do with them to help teach them? And finally, how are we supposed to meditate, either in isolation or while praying the Rosary? I have never understood what is meant by the word well and especially have trouble understanding how you're supposed to pray and meditate at the same time. (I still constantly struggle with my mind starting to wander or little distractions and interruptions cropping up.) Anyway I am sure you're busy so please don't feel obligated to respond directly, but perhaps you could touch on some of this in future presentations, or if you've already discussed it in past videos, point me to the link(s).
@@autobotsNdecepticons When I say the Rosary, I go through the mysteries as if l am there with Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the Apostles - almost like watching a movie but there with them.
@@maryhamill36 Thank you for sharing. I'm not sure if it's just that I don't know enough or what, but I am working my way through the visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich primarily because I thought it might help me understand the mysteries of the Rosary and other aspects of faith and Church teaching better.
If anyone has time or good points to make in response to the questions in this comment, I'll be very grateful too! Thanks Mary Hamill for your response. The specific questions are: "...what do you recommend for a simple morning and bedtime prayer, particularly so a young child and non-Catholic wife could participate? And what other simple prayers or reading could I do with them to help teach them? And finally, how are we supposed to meditate, either in isolation or while praying the Rosary?"
Blessed are you Father Maudsley for receiving the courage to teach & preach the Lord’s truth to His people. Only eternity will show how many souls you helped save! Thank you and God Bless.
God can supply such grace whenever He wishes. Though He does not owe it, and it is not automatic, given the desire and prayers of the mother, and the innocence of the little one, I think you can be confident in this hope. What seems to us like misfortune is only ever allowed by God so that He may draw a greater good from it for those who cooperate with Him. And you know in Heaven all humans are at a 'perfect age', not the age they had when they died. So the infants who come to Heaven will at the General Resurrection be given fully grown and glorified bodies. And if your prayers are the chief cause for saving grace to be given to your child, then what a wonderful encounter in Heaven that will be! 🙏
Thankyou Fr James, i never knew this about the babies, my goodness , I'm going to pray for them from now on, thank you so MUCH for this teaching, I am learning so much from you, ive been a Catholic for 30 years and I'm learning so much now, thank you, God bless you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Oh dear father, this is one amazing video. Well done! Glory to God 🙏💕 It flows perfectly...it just all makes so much sense, and I am so glad that we aren't expected to believe in Limbo for the children under the age of reason who were never baptized. About the people in the flood repenting: I heard an awesome priest (Fr. Philip Wolfe) on Sensus Fidelium say exactly the same thing you said! I believe it! I believe there were people who repented, especially because Noah tried to warn them for all those years. May God continue to bestow His wisdom upon you and may our Lady protect you from the evil one. I will continue to keep you in my daily rosary. Please pray for me. God bless you!
Pax Christi+Father! You give us so much to learn, study, think + pray about!!! -THANKS BE TO GOD! The prayers you speak of for the souls of the preborn terminated + miscarried will be shared with others. I prayed for their protection of physical protection mostly, but didn't know to pray to this degree for their souls. All the angels + saints, pray for you!
After this video I cried a little because I felt great relief from thinking for decades that most people will probably go to Hell. That never made sense to me. You have answered all my concerns over this topic. It all makes sense now. Bringing the beauty of the Old Testament to light with the New certainly ties everything together.The OT has always been difficult for me to understand but it is rich indeed. Father Mawdsley, thank you for this gift of solace, hope and joy. Please continue your work. I'm so glad you are doing this series. The young and old are so hungry for the Trinity. May God Almighty continue to give you everything you need to save souls. P. S. Love the ancient background in the beginning! It's such an eye-catching scene.
Most go to hell, if very clear in scripture, narrow is the way and few find it, repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and do not love the world but be seperate from the world you must be born again, maybe 1% will see the kingdom of God you still have time believe the gospel believe Jesus die for your sins and live for Him in everything you do, this world will take you to hell, yes everyone is perishing dont let it be you, pray to Jesus with fear and trembling and beg for mercy, we deserve hell but Christ has giving you a way out a narrow way, listen and take heed to what i tell you.
Thank you Fr Maudsley for such a lovely video on your taching of the. Catholic faith. You are such a wonderful priest. Your videos are so informative. God bless & sanctify you in your mission.
Awesome video. It made me smile because recently I tried to calculate percantage of saved knowing the information that people fill gaps of fallen angel. I tought it is one to one, I took into account that there are fallen guardian angels and actual guardian angels. And I got between 45 and 100 percent. So I concluded 2/3 sounds nice. And then remembered that half of them died as children or before they were born, and that gives only 1/3 of people who reached the age of reason. And that explains the narrow gate. Few days ago I found paper with calculations and throw it in garbage thinking how I should not make such calculations because it's not my bussiness and God knows it anyway. And today I accidentaly found your video with similar logic. So you answered my question with clear and sound Church teachings. Thank you for this video. ❤
So so many Catholics haven’t been taught or reminded about The Last 4 things. They don’t believe in God even. Please Lord, give us good Priests, and bishops all around ASAP. HELP MY OWN SELF AND FAMILY!! 😭🙏🎄
I loved this talk father, I think it’s your best one to date. I’m not sure why some people on here seem to be disappointed that unbaptised people & babies may be saved, and are adhering to the pessimistic theology of St Augustine (regarding unbaptised infants) as if it’s dogma (which it’s not) and are implying that the Church Fathers shared Augustine’s belief (which most didn’t) Even the Medieval Church found the teachings of Augustine, a holy genius on so many points, unbearable to so many and moved away from it by coming up with the teaching of Limbo, which I also find such a disturbing teaching as I believe it misrepresents the Catholic faith and our loving Heavenly Father, it’s an unscriptural idea that there is some place, other than Heaven and Hell, which will be the final destination for infants who could not be baptised. Thankfully this has been rejected by Pope Benedict XVl who considered it no more than a theological opinion. If even by human standards to send innocent infants, even not baptised, to hell, is cruel and unfair, then what does God, who is Love and Mercy itself, think of this? Of course, the Church teaches that baptism, participation in the Eucharist, as well as the life according to faith are necessary for salvation. And the Lord once said: “Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven” Does this mean that all believers and pious Christians who have not become pure as children will not enter into the kingdom of God? God applies the rules based on the whole vision of the heart of a man, while we see only small part of it. Each rule has its exceptions, and I think that the fate of unbaptised children is just one of these exceptions. Infants are not to blame for not being baptised, therefore judging and punishing them with hell is unworthy of God’s Love. “In my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2). The infants did not make efforts to attain the Kingdom, but they did not have such an opportunity. Therefore, the bliss of the saints in Heaven is one thing, and of innocent and sinless children is another. However, St. Ephraim the Syrian says that infants in paradise are equal to angels and they will be higher than many Saints for their sinlessness. Unbaptised children will be in paradise, will be saved, and God will determine the measure of their bliss. There are many statements from scripture that speak to ALL humanity; "For God so loved the world ... " this is not a limiting statement; God's love extends to all the world. Nor does the objective "... to reconcile to Himself all things ... " have limits; Trinitarian objectives are universal. We are reminded that the "Spirit blows wherever it wills" (John 3:8). Peter the Apostle states that. "Truly I perceive God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears Him and does what is right is acceptable to Him" (Acts 10:34-35). St. Paul, addressing the Athenians at the Areopagus, observes that they worship an unknown God, whose name and message he came to proclaim (Acts 17:23-31). The salvation of all people, including non-Christians, depends on the great goodness and mercy of the Omniscient and Omnipotent God who desires the salvation of all people. Those who live in faith and virtue, though outside the Church, receive God's loving grace and salvation. Saint Paul reminds us, "O the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and how inscrutable His ways!" (Rom. 11: 33). The issue of a person’s fate after physical death falls within the competence of God, not man and thankfully God doesn’t judge like we do. His thoughts and ways aren’t the same as ours… which is cause for celebration for some and cause for concern for others, especially reading some of the comments on here and on other traditional Catholic websites were you’d think that its only the ‘super trads’ who are going to be saved! And we all know that Our Lord had very stern things to say to those type of religious people back in His day. It’s better to be a Publican than a Pharisee. Ultimately we’re all going to be judged on one thing; how much did we love. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.
Father, your thoughts carry many good intentions, it is not my place to contradict or even attempt to correct a priest. I say this with the utmost respect, your understanding and explanation are most lacking in charity although well intended. Thank you father
Beloved Padrecito of God, I am a prodigal Catholic whose discovering that very few are indeed walking in the narrow path... I had no idea about Rosary or feast days or latin mass or receiving on the tongue kneeling before I left. I can only assume and be grateful to my Savior Jesus that He called me home and for this I now live to serve Him for eternity. May His name be blessed forever. Thank you for these teachings for I would not hear them otherwise as my parish is N.O. Viva Cristo Rey
You know of the devotion of the Most Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, that came out of Africa? He was telling people to go Latin Rite for a long time. And back in the 90s he said take no drug the gov gives. But, one of the prayers given was for the baptism of aborted babies.
Thank you so much for this wonderful class Father. God bless you to help me to learn. I just brought your book.Adam’s Deep Sleep. Wonderful ! Thanks, God bless you 🙏
Extraordinary evaluation. Thank you so much. All of time spent doing our own will must change at the end of earthly life or BEFORE HOPEFULLY. The Divine Will rules all things, except our fallen free will. We need to fuse our will with the Divine Will as much as possible. That's the ticket.The Will of God done, WITH OUR WILL UNITED WITH GOD
Another edifying video, thank you Father. I finished devouring your book and it is awesome, so rich for meditation. I think I'll buy another copy and donate it to the local NO parish library. I go there for adoration at their chapel and frequent the library but sadly there's quite a few modernist books. Trying to slowly add some traditional lit as I am able to financially. They are not averse to tradition, they just are not aware, for the most part. p.s. Is it a sin to remove heretical literature? I confess I've done it, surreptitiously. Thanks again Father.
Happy to hear the book feeds your meditations. And 👍 to a copy for the local parish library. For removing heretical literature, I suppose the best way would be to bring it to the attention of those responsible, and ask if they will remove it. Probably there would be a discussion on why. Then you would need to hone your arguments (which is good for you), relate these to them (which is good for them). Then pray for a good result. Even if they do not remove it immediately, it will might help them on the particular issue and probably help them be aware of the general importance of sound literature. If this approach brings no fruit, it might be worth gathering a group of like minded people to make the same point with more weight. If all this fails, and if it is an egregiously heretical work which you are sure contains teaching condemned by the Church... well, God guide your discernment. Given such books are dangerous, poisonous, and they stink, then there will be times when it is right to remove them.
How about inserting an index card with a list of what is heretical and scripture plus catechism citations to back it up? There will be no problem with “stealing” them. Possibly, you could sign them out and just happen to keep them a long time? I don’t know the policy at your library. Any chance of “losing” them, paying, and destroying the books? This assumes there is some means of seeing to it the money isn’t used to buy duplicate copies. I like Fr.’s idea best, but it may not be successful in a novus ordo parish.
This video gives me hope that the eternal joy of beatific vision will not be denied the innocent unborn victims of sinful mothers as well as the miscarried unborn.
There are so many women who have received hope and encouragement from this talk. They are women who have lost babies by aborting them or contracepting them. Many women have contracepted for 20+ years and lost hundreds of babies. (I use the word 'lost' as a cruel euphemism.) It is cruel to billions of unborn to say that their mothers (and fathers) 'lost' them. These babies, now 'people,' who had been intended by God to inherit a throne and eternal glory, have been robbed of their inheritance. And if those who are responsible have at times received actual graces to repent, confess, and do penance, this talk of: "Maybe, somehow the babies will get to heaven," is very encouraging for women to stay on their 'monthly meds.' In fact, this talk encourages women to tell their daughters that they do not need to be 'baby machines.' This talk brings such relief from guilt to so many; but no relief to the victims. I have read countless lives of the saints and countless books about various devotions revealed from heaven, but in more than 2,000 years, there has never been a saint who promoted prayer for the unbaptized deceased babies.
You are absolutely wrong. First, this is no consolation to anyone guilty of mortal sin. They must repent their sin or they will go to hell. If your idea of 'success', of the meaning of life, is limited simply to 'getting into Heaven', then you will not understand this. But if you are moved by a consuming love of God, if you want to serve to the maximum the increase of His external glory, then you will want as many souls as you can touch -- including your own -- to get as close to God as possible, to serve Him as fully as possible. For Heaven has a hierarchy. A baby killed in the womb can be brought to Heaven by God, but (aside from God's obvious better plan), it were better had that baby lived and grown and worshipped God in a long and fruitful life. God has been robbed of a potential contribution to His external glory. Secondly you are wrong like others who have commented on this video because you imagine if an aborted baby CAN get to Heaven, by God's Sovereign choice, then there is nothing we should do but sit back and smile as if it were all automatic. Why should it be so? Why should not God do this great good as a response to the earnest prayers and sacrifices of the faithful? Why not a great use by Mary the Mother of God of the treasury of graces which she and the Saints have merited for the Church, and which the Sacred Heart of Jesus makes infinite? Why should a mother who miscarries not pray for her child? It is totally natural and the best thing for her consolation. Such consolation is of God. It is not wicked or dumb to be consoled by trusting in His Almighty Mercy. And when good Christians pray outside abortion clinics, although they prevent many deaths, they do not, obviously, prevent all. Why not, beside to their prayers of defence of the unborn and prayers for the conversion of those sinning, also add the intention for the safe delivery into Heaven of those actually aborted? It is unlikely the parents of the victims will do this at the time, so those holding vigil step in for the sake of the innocent. You do not have to believe any of this. But you are absolutely wrong to say Church teaching forbids such thinking. It does not. I have asked you lots of simple questions in other comments here, but you do not answer. So I cannot tell what is driving you to such folly that you take it on yourself to speak in the name of the Church and condemn what is not condemned, forbid what is not forbidden. Be content to disagree. If you will not pray for those who die before baptism, thank God there are many women and men who do. The little ones will be eternally grateful.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I am sorry. I don't see all my responses here. I wrote about what St. Thomas More would do, and other things... Is there a way I can write directly to you, because other priests have instructed those of us who were praying on the sidewalks differently and they have told us not to pray for the aborted babies because it supports heresy. There are particular prayers they have said we shouldn't pray. I don't want to cause a storm, but my sensus fidelium immediately saw that these priests were right, but you 'march to a different drummer'...maybe because your heart is so big. But... did you pray the Office yesterday? If so, then you read this: Matt. 16:24-27 Lesson viii ~~The Stigmata of St. Francis~~ Sept. 17. ...Here, "He (Jesus) says that we must give up ourselves. Perhaps it is not very hard for a man to leave his possessions; but it is very much harder to leave himself. It is a little thing to give up what we have; but a great thing to give up what we are... R. God forbid that I should glory, save in the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ; By which the world is crucified to me, and I to the world." --- Taken from The Roman Breviary By this (these are my words, not a quote) I mean to direct your thoughts to two things: 1. Your situation is multiplied by countless others who are buffering God's just wrath by the suffering of being forbidden to do what they know they were created to do; and, 2. God knows and loves each created human more than we ever could. It is not our task to find a New Way to get around God's omniscience and make Him do better by us. We don't stop praying with all our strength to be able to fulfill His primary will for us -- and we wait. Because we will see God triumph through the patience of His saints. I do believe that the angels of the Little Ones, frozen and in drawers, somehow know who cares and they are grateful. Let us pray for these frozen embryos while they yet live. God allows them (and you) to plead their cause.
Father, I have recently come to realize some I have listened to on u-tube are enamored of the writings of Luisa Piccaretta and appreciate your videos refuting these writings. I think that material gets snuck into their content leaving viewers in the dark about it. I’m wanting to know how best to figure out who is safe to listen to now. I’m thinking Henry Westen is okay.
Fr Mawdsley please can you discuss the ressurection. When heaven is spoken about it appears as if the ressurection is lost. I have recently become a catholic and aome of my new friends do not have any understanding of the ressurection because of hiw they percieve heaven neing the final destination.
Sermon extra ordinary. Appreciate the clarifications about non Christians having the possibility to be saved. It seems the bottom line of who is saved is up Jesus. The thief who was saved at crucification was saved even though he was not baptized. I have had a lot of Protestants try to convert me. I tell them I will continue to follow the Catholic dogma and they should follow the Bible 100% as that is the belief they profess. I agree the Bible is 100% true is properly interpreted. Problem with all of us is we try to lawyer the Bible verses to allow our sins. If the Protestants actually follow the Bible, I pray they get to heaven. Even though they say Catholics are mostly going to hell, I refrain from judging. As a Catholic, the Church has given us many gifts, with confession being a very important one. I am an American living in Germany and confession is rarely offered so an appointment required. When I was still working, ISO standards were developed to make a stand quality output. The laws were reviewed, the most important aspects were identified, goals established, procedures developed, work done, performance assessed periodically and then changes made. A system which should result in continuous improvement. I see the Bible as being the law and the Catholic Church being the rest which is essentially the implementing procedure. I believe God created the church for us and not for himself. Jesus talked about this when his disciples were being judged.
How many souls go to heaven ? No one knows. Wild speculation only reveals our own desires or theological training. There are universal salvationists who believe in "mercy for all" meaning "slavery for all" for no one can turn against God. This is opposed to what Jesus says in the Bible and common sence. On the other hand there are those who believe that hardly any one is saved apart from themselves. The Church has never said the numbers "de fide" quite rightly and we should leave it at that. Rest content when we need to know God will reveal it to us and not before. Limbo is required because without it children under at least seven years old are damned if they are not baptized. The church has stated this for the last two thousand years. Modern(ist) Theological "training" reveals its weaknesses. Limbo is a place of mercy.
Surely when the Church leaves a matter open, that is precisely when it is acceptable to speculate? So long as one does not present ones opinion as dogma, then through exchanges of ideas we can grow in understanding. I don't mind being corrected if I make mistakes, but the idea that we should shut our brains down because the Church has not pronounced on something is misguided. It is when the Church has definitively pronounced a teaching that one should not dispute it publicly (but if one has a difficulty with it, go and find someone who can give guidance). We never will "need" to know on earth the numbers that reach Heaven, so it is exceedingly unlikely God will ever "reveal" it. But as mentioned in the video and the description, by considering and discussing these matters which are left open, we can find motivation to hope and pray for others, and work for the greater glory of God. To your point on unbaptised children being damned, what about the Holy Innocents? They did not by any natural power engage their wills in their martyrdom (being babies under 2 years old, how could they?). But given God has brought these to Heaven, and has also brought Hebrews and non-Hebrews from before the time of Christ to Heaven (e.g. Moses, Abel, Job), then evidently God is not bound by the Sacraments, although we are. In which case, if we pray for those who have died before they reach the age of reason, and for some reason did not receive baptism (e.g. aborted, or being a destroyed embryo, or born in a culture hostile to the Faith), why should God not grant this prayer request? He does not have to, but it is well worth praying for, because He wants us to help each other reach Heaven.
The Holy Innocents are counted as martyers of the faith and martyrdom is counted as a form of baptism in church theology. Baptism of water, Baptism of desire and baptism of blood ie martyrdom. Remember God wants us to be saved but we do not need to know everything to be saved. That we are saved by "knowledge alone" is gnosticism. When God requires us to know He will reveal it to us until then we need to be humble and patient. Your videos are good and I like them as you have a lot to contribute so all criticism should be seen as positive suggestions. God allows the critic not in order to only pull down but in order to build up. Personally I have lost a child to miscarriage so I would be delighted if that child was in heaven but it is not what the church has traditionally said, thus Limbo is a place of mercy. Let's disagree in that same mercy of God. Best wishes and I look forward to your next wonderful video! God Bless you and may He bless me too.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM The Church hasn't "left it open," Father - you keep saying that, but it isn't true! You seem to be labouring under the mistaken notion that anything which isn't defined dogma is fair game. Please look further into this. The only people who have called it into question in recent times have been the modernist Vatican II Popes.
2/3? 0.666. Why this number? I can’t see anything in the Bible on the percentage. Although, we are told the way is narrow - which always led me to believe that only a minority will make it. However, it remains unclear and so it should remain. I pray to Jesus Christ that I may still make it - and I can help as many as possible to do so too. Hearing His Word is special. I did as a child - but forgot. Now as an adult, I hear Him again for the first time properly. His Word is the perfect new equation. The New Covenant!
If the filling of places were to be one to one, and every person has a single guardian angel, and 2/3 of people were to go to heaven, this would mean that around 73% of angels are guardian angels. Anything less than 50% of angels being guardian angels would require more than 100% people going to heaven (to have all places filed if one to one). If 100% of angels were guardian angels, you would have 49,25% people going to heaven. Just some math. Edit: I of course don't think it's one to one, this wouldn't make sense. In the parable of the talents, the third servant's talent is given to the one who had ten.
So to not give someone the gospel is to their salvation, and to give the gospel is for damnation? This can not be the case 1st peter 4:17,18 17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18 And “If the righteous man is scarcely saved, where will the impious and sinner appear?”
That error is dealt with in the video. Salvation is ultimately a matter of love, a love wants the best for the beloved. So even though hearing the Gospel brings a great responsibility with it (of those who have received much, much will be expected), love does not complain about that responsibility, nor complain we will be held to a more exacting judgement. By living according to the Gospel we add to the extrinsic glory of God. Love wants to do this. It does not simply ask "Will I be saved or not?" The idea in the video that 2/3 might reach Heaven depends hugely on the fact that most souls do not even reach birth before they die / are killed. These have no choice about hearing the Gospel. I think it is very easy for them to get to Heaven. But nobody can choose that course of life. Those of us who reach the age of reason do have choices, but to chose to reject the Gospel is spiritually insane / wicked / works against salvation. To choose not to give the Gospel is likewise a cruelty and self-harm. Sorry if this is badly expressed. I confess it is wrapped around a mystery.
Thank you Father for your answer. I know its been a while since I commented but I just revisited your video. I'm sorry this is a long post. And Im not challenging you, but rather seek understanding. I want to believe this. I want to believe most men are saved even those who have reached the age of reason. I want to believe what Pope Benedict said in Spe salve, that there are a few who go straight to heaven, a few so twisted that the can not cooperate with God's grace that they go to hell, but most go to Purgatory. Which means they are saved. If we are not bound to accept what the Pope said on this, then we are certainly not bound to accept what st. Leonard of port Maurice said. The issue Im having is that the idea that unbaptized infants go to heaven seems to be against what the councils of Trent and Florence have said: Council of Trent session 7 CANON V.-If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation; let him be anathema. ( not sure of the canon) If any one denies, that infants, newly born from their mothers’ wombs, even though they be sprung from baptized parents, are to be baptized; or says that they are baptized indeed for the remission of sins, but that they derive nothing of original sin from Adam, which has need of being expiated by the laver of regeneration ( which is baptism) for the obtaining life everlasting, - whence it follows as a consequence, that in them the form of baptism, for the remission of sins, is understood to be not true, but false, - let him be anathema. Council of Florence The souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go down straight away to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains Regarding children, indeed, because of danger of death, which can often take place, since no help can be brought to them by another remedy than through the sacrament of baptism, through which they are snatched from the domination of the devil and adopted among the sons of God, " Augustin believed unbaptized babies suffered positive punishment. It seems to me the alternative to limbo is not they go to heaven. Or are you saying some go to limbo but others can be saved through prayer. Which interests me. I'm all about praying for the dead. And I've heard some say that we can pray for unbaptized infants, even pray them out of Limbo. Do you know if any mystics or saints have said this? If you said in the video I missed it. Like I said, I want to believe this. Most of my family and friends are Protestant and my sister and my daughter have both had miscarriages. But I'm not looking for what I want to believe. I'm trying to find the truth, though it may not be possible in this topic
It can be all or none. It's not a quota system. As for two thirds, I think that's a far to optimistic. If you don't want to go to hell, then act accordingly.
Exsul Familia Nazarethana Apostolic Constitution Pope Pius XII - 1952 When the priests are absent, what ruin for those who must leave this world either unbaptized or still chained by sin! What sadness for their friends, who will not have them as companions in the repose of eternal life! What grief for all, and whet blasphemy by some, due to the absence of the priest and of his ministry.
The reason that St. Leonard of Port Maurice says that he will only consider Catholics is that he believes what Jesus has always taught through His Church: The set of the saved does not include those who die outside of membership in the Church.
That's not the reason St Leonard gives in his homily. He says: "Note well that there is no question here of the human race taken as a whole, nor of all Catholics taken without distinction, but only of Catholic adults, who have free choice and are thus capable of cooperating in the great matter of their salvation." Read his homily (On the Few that are Saved") and you will see he is talking about those capable of cooperating through the use of their reason and will. That means, generally, those over 7 years old. The Saint says specifically that he is talking about Christian adults. He does not exclude babies or the unborn because they must all go to hell (which he nowhere even hints), but because this point is irrelevant to those he is addressing: baptised adults. You and I do not know all the souls God draws into the Catholic Church, nor how. We know baptism works, and we are obliged to promote it as best we can. But God is not bound by it. That is the teaching of the Church.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Now there are two points you obscure. You lump together babies (baptized or not) and the unborn and shunt them to the Hell slide. As if I were saying that. You know I am not saying that. Secondly, God makes His rules and then He may or may not reveal them to us. You speak as if I am saying I know who God calls and how. I am not saying that. You say that we know that Baptism works. What does that mean? And then: "We are obliged to promote it as best we can." (The great Sacrament of Baptism!!--"Damned by faint praise..." --Shakespeare.) God is bound by His sacraments, and He proclaimed that He was. In His Perfect Wisdom, He has bound Himself by His sacraments. That is all we know. In all humility, that is all we dare proclaim. Who are we to tell God that all these millennia He should have instituted a Mass to save babies who died without baptism? No. God is the Truth. Follow God, not your imagination.
Actually, I don't really know what you are saying. That's why I was asking questions below. To try to understand where you are coming from. You accuse me of teaching fiction and heresy, but you do not specify what I said that was supposedly false. So it is difficult for me to know what you are thinking. But it is clear you to begin with hostility! This statement of yours is absolutely insupportable: "God is bound by His sacraments, and He proclaimed that He was." When did He proclaim that? He will honour the Sacraments which we perform, but He is not prevented from giving grace to whom and whenever and however He wishes. That's why I asked you below if you believe that with God "no thing is impossible" (Lk 1:37). If you understand what "thing" means, or "word", as in real being, then you will understand that God Who is Almighty is not bound by the Sacraments.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Yikes! I am not feeling hostile. I am so sorry! You can be sure of my regard for you; but for Jesus first. An example of Jesus being bound by His sacraments is that Jesus always comes down at the words of Consecration --even at clown Masses and such. To me it seems all wrong. Does it seem all wrong for you that there are no Masses for the souls of the infants who die without Baptism? They are not remembered in November, either. The doctors of the Church would often refer to the liturgical prayers to decide the truth of a teaching. The teaching is: We do not pray for the unbaptized to go to Heaven. The truths of the Faith forbid it. Also, we do not put their bodies in the Catholic cemetery, but in a separate "Babyland." Why? Because the Church teaches that on the Last Day, they will not rise 'glorious and immortal' with the baptized Catholics. This much we know. I think you are talking about something else when you say God is not bound... but it is safer to stay away from the realm of speculation. The Church does not pray for the deceased unbaptized babies. We should respect that and not promote novelties, lest we scandalize the weak.
Good -- glad if we keep it amicable. God honours the Sacraments we perform (even, as you note, when unworthily), but He is not bound by them. That is Church teaching and it means God can give whatever graces He wishes even when we do not give the Sacraments. The absence of customary prayers is certainly not a prohibition against them. The Church does not have a Mass formula for those who commit suicide and did not allow them to be buried in Catholic cemeteries either but it was never forbidden to prayer for the souls of those who committed suicide. And it is definitely good to have Masses said for them, but the intention must be private so as not to cause scandal. It should not be printed, for example, on a bulletin. The reason is not because the prayers and Mass cannot work, but because it was sensibly not thought good to give this impression so blatantly, lest people relax in their thinking about suicide. Similarly for unbaptised babies. If in the early Church it were commonly thought as certain that these can come to Heaven, then given our indolence, there might not have been the same missionary imperative. But as the Fathers discussed the matter, they came up with various theological ideas, and limbo developed as a plausible option, but the Church did not decide on this definitively. And just as this stance served the marvellous propagation of the Church, it seems utterly reasonable to me -- and it is not against Church teaching so please do not say it is without magisterial support -- that in these days of ours when billions of humans are killed before they reach the age of reason, it is especially good that we be encouraged to pray and make sacrifice for their souls. Who knows if we are near the end times (I do not know)? But it would be perfect timing for us make such prayers now, without neglecting any opportunity for baptism. To be honest, I do not know if the main point you wish to make is: i) Those not sacramentally baptised cannot possibly get to Heaven, unless they were of the Old Testament, in which case they can. OR ii) That the vast majority of souls go to hell (which I think you said elsewhere). OR iii) That 'no salvation outside the Church' means that unless someone is clearly a professed Catholic, they go to hell. Honestly, I do not know where you are coming from. If any of those 3 options are what you believe, let me know. Or if you reject any of them, let me know. It is not 'safer' to stay away from the realm of speculation. That is disastrous. It means the Church would stop thinking. She never did this. She always speculated. But safety lies in being able to distinguish between what is certain truth (dogma), what is open for debate and speculation, and what is forbidden (error, heresy). If we can distinguish between these 3, then conversations can be very fruitful. Priests should not speculate much in their homilies; they should teach and exhort. Catechists should not speculate in sacramental preparation classes; they should teach doctrine. But in conversation, at the dinner table, on walks, on CZcams videos, it is fine to speculate -- especially when the content is noted to be an opinion, as I made clear in the video. So the following is false: "The teaching is: We do not pray for the unbaptized to go to Heaven. The truths of the Faith forbid it." You draw too strong a conclusion from premises which do not support it. You can have your opinion about entering Heaven, but we are certainly not forbidden to pray for any deceased soul.
It would be nice! But the Doctors and Fathers are virtually unanimous on the contrary, as per St. Leonard of Port Maurice. (also, your take deviates greatly from the sense of his sermon; your implication is that one is *better off* being ignorant of the Gospel, making familiarity with the Word of God more of a curse than a blessing; pardon if I misheard you but that's what I gathered!) One interesting thing I read, from Ven. Mary of Agreda, is that (if indeed the Blesséd Virgin Mary was speaking to this holy nun), souls are not created at conception, but rather at around day 40 for boys, and day 80 for girls. Christ and the Blessed Mother were both ensouled on day 7, all per "Mystical City of God".
So, when Our Lord said "few find it" he meant a 2/3 majority? Although even 1/3 seems shockingly high, wouldn't it make more sense for the final ratio to be 1/3 saved and 2/3 unsaved? I say that both because the saved take the places in heaven of the fallen 1/3 of angels, and because that is the ratio of those that will resist the Antichrist.
The video addresses those points. What do you think of babies who die in the womb? Can God bring them to Heaven? Would you say they "find" the Way? And the video addresses the point with the proportion of angels. We do not replace them numerically, as there are far too many of them (the 1/3 fallen likely far exceeds the number of humans ever created). Blessed Passiontide!
Father, I am very surprised by this talk. There are many errors. Church fathers would not agree on many points. I will try to put a list together. Unbaptized (aborted) babies go to limbo, not heaven. Few find the narrow path...but 2/3 are saved? None of this makes sense or corresponds with Traditional scripture or teachings. God bless you.
I understand it is surprising for many. But you are premature in talking about error. 1) Limbo is a theory. We are permitted to believe in it, but not required to do so. This idea has no mention whatsoever in the sources of revelation. And since being proposed in various forms it has been constantly argued over since it contains irreducible difficulties. Therefore the Church has never taught it definitively. Feel free to try and answer the difficulties, but do not insist others believe in this possibility. These difficulties include: do the souls supposedly in Limbo have a natural desire for a supernatural end? Without the beatific vision, what is it that fixes their wills on the good, or can they sin? If they communicate with each other, can they communicate what they heard about Jesus Christ? 2) When Jesus said the way is narrow (Lk 13:23-30; Mt 7:13-29), you will see from the context He is addressing those who know or claim to know God or the Word of God. He is not talking about aborted babies or even non-Christians in invincible ignorance. So yes, the way is narrow and few find it. But to 'find' is active. And it is not expected of aborted babies that they search for the truth of God and find it. I do not say they go to Heaven automatically, but that they can enter Heaven as the result of the prayers of others and the Church's treasury of graces and the infinite merits of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Did you know that more people are aborted each day than the number of those who die after birth? Did you know more people die each day due to IVF and embryological experiments than are aborted? Therefore, now at least two thirds of people die each day before they are born. You can argue none of these get to Heaven if you wish. But you cannot prove it, and we are permitted to believe in the efficacy of prayer and sacrifice for them. Therefore it is possible for the majority of souls to come to Heaven while even only a minority actually "find" the way. 3) Whatever the Fathers and saints of the past taught, they were not thinking of an age when the majority of people are killed or die before their birth. When St Leonard of Port Maurice preached the great majority go to hell, he made it very clear that he is talking about Christians. He is not talking about those who die before they reach the age of reason or about people in invincible ignorance. I offer my opinion because Church teaching does not exclude its possibility. I think it is coherent and optimal. You are free to disagree, free to believe in Limbo, but as the Church does not require us to believe in this idea then you cannot require me to believe in it. You are free to disagree that aborted babies can come to Heaven, but the Church allows for the possibility, so you cannot require that I do not believe it. On this basis, two thirds is possible. Therefore I think you overstep in saying there are "many errors" in the video. If you can make a list of them then we will see.
czcams.com/video/zl1qBnndHo0/video.html Thanks for reply Father. Will study and return thoughts soon. God bless. Fr Jenkins video above excellent, as always.
Many heresies in this one. Christ did not lie when He spoke to Nicodemus about the necessity of Water Baptism in John 3:5 which was also declared through the Magisterium of the Council of Trent as to be understood "as it is written". As for Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood the Church has never declared this to be true, it is mentioned by many but is not a doctrine or a dogma but a fable for itching ears. The Council of Trent declared One Baptism of Water. The sobering reality is also declared through Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence regarding Jews, Heretics, Schismatics and even those who shed their blood for the name of Christ; they are all lost. Please look it up, the truth must be told . Those in "invincible Ignorance" of the Gospel although not held accountable for not knowing, they are condemned, since they are above the age of reason, for their other sins ( no-one is without sin), "even a righteous man sins 7 times" Prov 24:16, so without repentance or knowing of the saving blood of Christ and without water Baptism, or Absolution from a Valid Catholic Priest they have no hope. Much more to unpick here. So much wrong theology.
Can you tell me, do you believe that Abel, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Job are in Heaven? And the Holy Innocents? If you are willing to answer, we can build on that, and it might help you overcome your false ideas as expressed above. I have had other people insisting on the position which you outline, but they are either not willing to answer my questions, or else they have the most bizarre and non-Catholics theories to account for these who received no sacramental baptism being in Heaven. In any case, God bless.
Without doubt, men (the Church) are bound by the Sacraments. We are obliged to give and receive baptism as far as we are able. But God is not bound by the Sacraments, and can save whomsoever He wills, by giving the grace of the sacrament, even if they have not had the outward sacrament itself. As an example, Dismas, the Good Thief, was told by Jesus "This day you will be with Me in paradise". This is certainly true, and I hope you accept that Dismas did not receive sacramental baptism. The obligation to baptise was imposed by Jesus after His Resurrection. Yet He still has the power, of course, to give saving grace to whomever He wills. It would be absurd to hold that men who never heard the Law or Gospel could be saved before the Resurrection, but not after it. Yet Job and Abel, who came before, are certainly saved. So also those who adhere to the natural law nowadays, and seek to please God, even though they have never been taught about baptism.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Thank you for your reply. Before the promulgation of the Gospel, Baptism was not required for salvation but afterwards it was. This is why Jesus said to the Jews that unless they accepted Him as the Messiah they would die in their sins. The 'good' thief died while still under the law of Moses and was justified by the Old covenant along with his repentance. The others you mention from Abel onwards were not bound by the Gospel but were saved by being chosen by God to know and obey Him. From Moses onwards only those under the Old Covenant, which the Church has declared as having ended around the promulgation of the Gospel and replaced by the New Covenant in the Blood of Christ, would be saved, "...those who believe and are baptised will be saved, those who do no not believe will be condemned." No soul can enter Heaven without being baptised, the Church has made this clear. That is not to say that a child before the age of reason (of sin), or if aborted or stillborn, has sinned because they are not baptised, they being innocent of sin have no atonement to make but can still not be admitted to Heaven because of the mark of Original sin. There is no doctrine or dogma on where they will be in eternity but the Church Fathers clearly suggest a similar place of existence as the Jews who died before Christ - the 'Bosom of Abraham' otherwise spoken of as Limbo. As for all the rest who are of an age to be in sin, God provides actual grace and divine light to draw those to the Gospel truths and to the Church sacraments only whom he finds worthy. There are many accounts of pagan people and remote island tribes having had bi-locating religious visiting them and teaching and baptising them, then of course there were the Missionaries. Trent: "If any one saith, that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and, on that account, wrests, to some sort of metaphor, those words of our Lord Jesus Christ; Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost; let him be anathema." We must leave it to the 'modernist' heretics in the vatican etc to say that Church teaching and dogma can evolve or be altered to suit the age or to please people... I will be happy to answer any other question since we are living in times of great deception and the only recourse to safety for our souls is Catholic Tradition and Magisterial teaching and dogma which has overcome many storms. +
Trent is teaching that there is no sacramental baptism without water. The position that since the Ascension (or whatever you mean by Gospel), sacramental baptism is an absolute necessity to enter Heaven, leads to absurdities such as the idea that pagans bi-located to be sacramentally baptised. Really, this is not Catholic teaching. You say Abel and others have been brought to Heaven because they "saved by being chosen by God to know and obey Him". Well what stops God doing that for anyone. You also have the absurdity that a person in a 'far off land' could be saved this way by God until the Law of Moses was promulgated, then they have had it. One day they could be saved, the next day they could not, all because 1000s of miles away Moses preached. Was this, supposedly, an immediate worldwide effect? You quote the Gospel: "...those who believe and are baptised will be saved, those who do no not believe will be condemned." Right! Notice that baptism is not used in the negative scenario. So St Thomas teaches (ask me if you want the reference, but I think it is S.Th.III q.68 a.1-2) that it is by faith in Christ that men are saved, whether they lived before or after He came, whether they heard of Him or not. He is the principal of the natural Law as He is the principal through Whom all Creation was made. So all can know Him who search for truth. I am sure you mean well. But it sounds like you have taken one line of Scripture (e.g. Jesus to Nicodemus) and you want to pin everything on this, not attempting to harmonise it with everything else in the Bible. What Jesus said is true, of course. But it does not admit a simplistic interpretation. The Church has never, ever taught this notion that without sacramental baptism there is no salvation (not even if you qualify it by adding "after the Gospel" -- whatever that means [is it "after the Gospel" in the Americas in AD 500?]) God bless.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I see some confusion entering into this so I will try to be more specific. eg. Council of Trent on Baptism: CANON V.-If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation: let him be anathema. CANON II.-If any one saith, that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and, on that account, wrests, to some sort of metaphor, those words of our Lord Jesus Christ: Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost:1 let him be anathema. Pope Eugene IV Contate Domino Council of Florence, ex cathedra : "The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside of the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives..." "...no one, even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."...“Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which faith except each one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly…. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.” +
Many treat Thomas Aquinas as dogma. God has not spoken here. Even Thomas is speculating. We don’t know what happens to the unbaptised babies. God loves them and that is all that matters.
No no! That's a disaster, when people (especially bishops!) think they do not need to baptise. We must carry out this as best we can. Jesus commanded it. With the sacraments souls can grow much closer to God than without them. The indelible character of Baptism (as also Confirmation and Holy Orders) is a great joy to have in Heaven (and a terrible pain to carry in hell). But there is a Catholic principle, that man is bound by the Sacraments but God is not. This means we have to strive to do all we can to supply them and receive them in due season. But where we fail to do so, that does not prevent special interventions from God if He chooses to give His graces anyway. He might do this in response to someone's prayers for example, though He is not bound to do so.
And baptism is needful as the beginning of Catholic culture which we all need as persons, families and nations, without which the world sinks into… the mess we have today. Baptism enables us to worship the Blessed Trinity interiorly, really. It is the beginning of saving grace and enables the growth thereof. To wilfully neglect it is to ask for damnation.
Father, the inocents are in heaven because they die for Christ but the aborted one's are different. Father Nicholson that use to have a UoiTube channel told in one of his videos that there was an abortionist in Mexico that use to say that he was a saint maker because each baby he kill. I don't know father
Well, it cannot be automatic that aborted babies go to Heaven. Rather it would be a result of the Church's treasury of graces, a result of prayer. If we knew all babies went to Heaven, we would not pray for them. If we knew no unbaptised babies went to Heaven, we would not pray for them, But the Holy Innocents show us that it is possible. These babies did not know what was happening nor why they died, and therefore they could not assent to it with their will (unless God made an extraordinary intervention in each case). Yet God was pleased to bring them to Heaven. Likewise some aborted babies are the victims of satanists. Are these not similar victims? For the other babies, and stillborns for example, we can pray. If we know something is possible, and good, and we pray for it adequately, will God not answer that prayer optimally? Now if someone prays for those who die before they reach the age of reason, and makes acts of reparation for them, then what is the best reward God can give for these acts of faith and charity? Not only does it bring order to the world but it should have an eternal fruit too. First, it sanctifies that soul who prays, so they will be 'closer' to God in Heaven, but also it could mean that the souls of the babies are saved, and so one would 'meet' them in Heaven. Or one would see that thanks to ones prayers and sacrifices, the population of Heaven is increased. Those 'babies' (now fully grown) would love the person who prayed for them, for they helped win their salvation. And the person who prayed for them would be intensely joyful that they did pray and make acts of reparation. They used their time on earth fruitfully. So the Mexican abortionist is absolutely wrong. He made no saints. He only murdered and condemned others to hell along with himself. But thanks to the prayers of the faithful, his evil work can be overcome. The souls of the little ones can be saved (again, not automatically; God is not obliged; but He will reward our acts of faith). And even the abortionists own soul can be converted and saved if, say, prayers are offered up for him (though we would think the innocent might receive the graces first). Sorry for the long answer! You are right that we do not know. This keeps us on our toes. We have to exercise faith and acts of charity, then entrust the rest to God.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Oh Rev. Father, thank you so much for taking time to answer me in a such thoroughly way. God bless you. Keep the good work.
Fr I love you're work but unfortunately this video seems miss guided. It has been defined by the magisterium of the church countless times definitively and dogmatically that unbaptized infants cannot and do not go to heaven, but do not experience punishment for original sin in limbo. I could give many references for this. It's also a dogma defined at trent that water baptism is necessary for all men for salvation without exception. The catholic faith is also necessary for salvation, and it's been dogmatically defined that pagans, Jews, Muslims, protestants and orthodox need to convert and become subject to the pope before their death in order to be saved. It's also (according to alphonsus ligourie) proximate to heresy to deny that not only most men overall, but most baptized catholics will be damned. You know very well father from your study of the scriptures that Jesus did not sow false hope, but rather fear of the lord and of judgment unto repentance. I do not find your teaching in this video very consistent with the gospels, tradition, or the magisterium. I bought your book though: "adams deep sleep" and am loving it so far.
I'm sorry Father, but you are spreading error. Even you classify it as "speculation" - frankly, you have no business speculating in such a way. I will content myself with a few observations and then have done. More could be said, but I fear I am wasting my time. You're too wrapped-up in your own opinions and you aren't willing to listen to the teaching of the Church, the Fathers, the Doctors, the Councils, even though more people than I have tried to point it out to you. "Without the Church there is no salvation." - This is a mistranslation and an extremely misleading one at that. Your text on the screen includes the words in brackets "Without (or outside) the Church..." but your voice simply says "Without the Church..." Father, the word "extra" means "outside of", it only means "without" in the old fashioned sense, as in: the opposite of "within." It *does not* mean "without" in the modern sense of the word. And yet it is clear from the context of the video that you are using the word "without" in the latter, modern sense (you say at one point: "had there been not Church, nobody would be saved"). The Latin for "without" used in this sense would be "sine" followed by the Ablative case. But the axiom is not "sine Ecclesia nulla salus." The Fourth Lateran Council teaches that outside the Church "nullus omnino" - "nobody at all" - is saved. St. Augustine teaches that outside the Church you can have everything else, you can have beautiful liturgies and wonderful preaching, you can have the sacraments, you can faith in the Father and Son and Holy Ghost... the only thing you cannot have, he says, is salvation! I could go on. These sort of statements do not admit of exceptions, and yet most of your video is one long list of imaginary exceptions which you have managed to contrive in your mind. But you have done so without reference to the Fathers of the Church, the Doctors of the Church, the Councils of the Church - without, in short, the teaching of the Church. Likewise, your use of Sacred Scripture here is little better than the "private interpretation" beloved of Protestants (after all, who cares what you or I think this or that passage means - what do the Fathers say it means?) Noah's Ark. This is a case in point. The Church has always taught that Noah's Ark is a type of the Catholic Church. All the Fathers agree on this. Either you need to rely on a modernist exegesis, where Genesis contains a misleading account of what really happened, or you must concede that every single person not on the ark perished in the flood and only the people on the ark survived the flood. If what you teach were true, then Genesis ought to have told us about all these other people not on the ark who nevertheless didn't perish: perhaps they managed to somehow swim around for forty days until they could walk around on dry land again? But that didn't happen, which is the whole point of the scriptural type. All those not in the ark perished, just as all those not in the Church will perish eternally. You had to be on the ark, just as you have to be in the Church. Your claim that non-baptised people go to heaven, including non-baptised babies, is also a false teaching, an error, a heresy - I don't really care how it should be classified, the point is it isn't true. And the implications are perverse: if you are right, then Planned Parenthood is busy populating heaven. They're accomplishing a lot of good, albeit unintentionally. Perhaps we shouldn't try quite so hard to shut them down, maybe we could let them carry on a bit longer? It's absurd. The worst thing about abortion is not just that it is murder, although it is; not just the fact that it is the murder of someone totally defenceless, although it is; nor even just that it is t the murder of someone who is wholly innocent and has never done any harm to anyone or committed a single actual sin, although that is true as well. The worst aspect of abortion, what makes it such a terrible crime is that it is a murder which simultaneously deprives that soul of any chance of being baptised. Any "Traditional" Catholic priest worthy of the name ought to realise that. I'm afraid you need to go back and re-examine your Fraternity of St. Peter seminary training, Father. This is what comes of trying to mix conciliar Vatican II and post- Vatican II teaching with the authentic, traditional teaching of the Church. Benedict XVI's calling Limbo into question was an absolute scandal, on a par with his teaching that the Jews don't need Our Lord because the old Covenant is still in force "for them" (!) or his suggestion that perhaps people with depraved sexual proclivities should be allowed to used condoms. You have somehow swallowed his modernist teaching on that one point (Limbo) and are now spreading this modernism even further afield. If this were a Novus Ordo priest in jeans and T-shirt teaching this nonsense, then doubtless more people would see through it. But because it comes from the mouth of a Traditional-looking priest, it does far greater damage and takes-in far more unsuspecting souls (mostly women, I notice.) For anyone else reading this, please do a quick internet search and find out what St. Thomas Aquinas, what St. Augustine, St. Gregory the Great and so many others have said about salvation outside the Church. And then read what St. Leonard of Port Maurice says about how few souls make it to heaven.
Dear G, you are confused about what Catholics must hold to be true, what they are permitted to believe is true, and what they may not hold to be true. If you are willing to answer some straightforward questions I think I can demonstrate this. In order to keep things focussed, I will post them one at a time, and let's see how we go. First of all: do you accept that Abel, Moses and Job are all in Heaven?
Another simple follow up question: as you have more than once mentioned St Leonard of Port Maurice in the context of his homily on "The Fewness of those that are Saved", do you acknowledge that he is not talking about non-Christians, and not about those who die before birth or reaching the age of reason, for he explicitly said in this homily: "Note well that there is no question here of the human race taken as a whole, nor of all Catholics taken without distinction, but only of Catholic adults, who have free choice and are thus capable of cooperating in the great matter of their salvation". And did you notice I drew attention to this point in the video? That while St Leonard makes very good arguments for us to believe that less Christian adults are saved than damned, he is not talking about abortion, or IVF, or cosmetic industry experiments on embryos etc -- which were not such great themes in the 18th century. And therefore, no matter how many times you bring him up, it does nothing to touch my case for two thirds of souls being brought to Heaven. Nothing. It is statistically irrelevant. Do you realise this, or is it hard to understand? If you wish I can break it down a bit more.
Dear Greg, you have also misunderstood the typology of Noah's ark. The Scripture clearly shows us that all those on the ark survived the flood, and all others perished in the flood. This is a type for the Church, showing, as you correctly understand, that there is no salvation outside the Church. But we are not meant to go beyond the typology. We cannot say everyone on the ark actually went to Heaven (that is by no means assured for Cham). Likewise, we cannot say all those who lost their biological life also lost their souls. For God knows how many of them would have been moved by impending and certain death to repent. It is absolutely unnecessary and extraneous to the typology to draw conclusions about the salvation of that generation. Rather the Scripture is showing us a spiritual reality by means of the historical and biological facts. If you study typology, you will note St Augustine says Uriah, the heroically virtuous husband of Bathsheba, is a type for the devil -- because King David won his bride from him, as Jesus wins the Church from the grasp of satan. Now St Augustine is certainly NOT saying Uriah is a demon and belongs in hell. Nor is he saying David was Christlike in this the worst sin of his life. Similarly, some Church Fathers say the lion Samson killed is a type of Christ, and others say the lion is a type of the devil. Both are correct. Typology is multivalent -- it has to be to cover the myriad spiritual realities with limited temporal ones. The lesson is that we should not go beyond what the type is teaching, as if we then apply the spiritual conclusion to the figures involved. If you are not convinced, I will post some magisterial quotes which show you that implicit baptism of desire is real, and by it many who drowned in the flood could come to Heaven -- if they were perfectly contrite. This is Church teaching. Or else tell me which of the quotes below you reject.
St Thomas Aquinas, S.Th. III, Q. 68, a. 4., ad.2 As stated above (1, ad 2; 68, 2) man receives the forgiveness of sins before Baptism in so far as he has Baptism of desire, explicitly or implicitly; and yet when he actually receives Baptism, he receives a fuller remission, as to the remission of the entire punishment. So also before Baptism Cornelius and others like him receive grace and virtues through their faith in Christ and their desire for Baptism, implicit or explicit: but afterwards when baptized, they receive a yet greater fullness of grace and virtues. Hence in Psalm 22:2, “He hath brought me up on the water of refreshment,” a gloss says: “He has brought us up by an increase of virtue and good deeds in Baptism.”
Saint Alphonsus Liguori, Moral Theology, Book 6, Section II Baptism of desire is perfect conversion to God by contrition or love of God above all things accompanied by an explicit or implicit desire for true baptism of water, the place of which it takes as to the remission of guilt, but not as to the impression of the [baptismal] character or as to the removal of all debt of punishment.
You are not the first in this combox to insist on this. But try reading some of the exchanges. Do you think Abel was baptised? Or Moses? Or David? Do you think Job was baptised, or the Holy Innocents, or the catechumens who were martyred whom the Church teaches are in Heaven? Nobody who insists on sacramental baptism is willing to answer these questions -- except if they resort to patent uncatholic absurdities like: - they were all raised from the dead and baptised afterwards (honestly, someone said this); - the good ones after the Crucifixion bi-located to Christian lands where they could be baptised (honestly, that's another one someone wrote). It is truer and simpler to accept Church teaching that God can give the grace of the Sacrament without requiring the sacramental sign. He is God.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Benedictus Deus On the Beatific Vision of God Pope Benedict XII - 1334 Constitution issued by Pope Benedict XII in 1336 "By this Constitution which is to remain in force for ever, we, with apostolic authority, define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints who departed from this world before the passion of our Lord Jesus Christ and also of the holy apostles, martyrs, confessors, virgins and other faithful who died after receiving the holy baptism of Christ- provided they were not in need of any purification when they died, or will not be in need of any when they die in the future, or else, if they then needed or will need some purification, after they have been purified after death-and again the souls of children who have been reborn by the same baptism of Christ or will be when baptism is conferred on them, if they die before attaining the use of free will: all these souls, immediately (mox) after death and, in the case of those in need of purification, after the purification mentioned above, since the ascension of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ into heaven, already before they take up their bodies again and before the general judgment, have been, are and will be with Christ in heaven, in the heavenly kingdom and paradise, joined to the company of the holy angels. Since the passion and death of the Lord Jesus Christ, these souls have seen and see the divine essense with an intuitive vision and even face to face, without the mediation of any creature by way of object of vision; rather the divine essence immediately manifests itself to them, plainly, clearly and openly, and in this vision they enjoy the divine essence . Moreover, by this vision and enjoyment the souls of those who have already died are truly blessed and have eternal life and rest. Also the souls of those who will die in the future will see the same divine essence and will enjoy it before the general judgment. Such a vision and enjoyment of the divine essence do away with the acts of faith and hope in these souls, inasmuch as faith and hope are properly theological virtues. And after such intuitive and face-to-face vision and enjoyment has or will have begun for these souls, the same vision and enjoyment has continued and will continue without any interruption and without end until the last Judgment and from then on forever. (On hell and the general judgment) Moreover we define that according to the general disposition of God, the souls of those who die in actual mortal sin go down into hell immediately (mox) after death and there suffer the pain of hell. Nevertheless, on the day of judgment all men will appear with their bodies “before the judgment seat of Christ” to give an account of their personal deeds, “so that each one may receive good or evil, according to what he has done in the body” (2 Cor. 5.10)." He says all the Saints who died before Jesus Christ, and those after him who have been baptized and don't require further purification. I also don't see the absurdity of the resurrected being baptized since its biblical Matt 27 52And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose, 53And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many. Matt 28 18And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. 19Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. John 4 1WHEN Jesus therefore understood that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus maketh more disciples, and baptizeth more than John, 2(Though Jesus himself did not baptize, but his disciples,) Exsul Familia Nazarethana Apostolic Constitution Pope Pius XII - 1952 When the priests are absent, what ruin for those who must leave this world either unbaptized or still chained by sin! What sadness for their friends, who will not have them as companions in the repose of eternal life! What grief for all, and whet blasphemy by some, due to the absence of the priest and of his ministry.
I think that happens for many channels. I don't think it is always sinister. Just glitches in an overwhelmed system. But if you notice it persists, and yet notifications work for other channels, then maybe let me know, and I'll try to find out if it happens to other people too. (Otherwise I try to post once a week, usually Fridays.) God bless.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM it happens to me a lot. I've even seen my comments altered. The system doesn't like certain people and information. Like your channel though. Discovered you through the Fatima center
Most interesting, thank you! I think aborted and miscarried babies don't go straight to Heaven, they should be able to be baptized and to choose Christ. Perhaps in limbo? I do believe poverty can be sanctifying for those outside the Church, but ONLY if accompanied by obeying in a natural way the 10 commandments, even if they don't know of them and living a pious life. Then perhaps these poor people may receive the grace of conversion in their deathbed. God bless!
Right, no one goes to Heaven automatically. But there cannot be any conversion after death. And there cannot be any Sacraments after death. So we pray that souls receive sanctifying grace before they died.
Sorry to disturb you father, but how you assume this number???two thirds in heaven???YOu are very optimistic. So ,God said the way to heaven is narrow , and difficult and a few find it ...Many people will go to wide and broad road...and you said 2/3 in heaven? Or maybe Jesus lied and you speak the truth!??
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I watch this video , but not all , because the interpretation of the truth is very simple about the number of people who go to heaven . We can give any answer who please us ,but the truth is very tough : A FEW. Many saints give us a frighteningly small number of people who can be saved. When God flood the earth He find only one man to save , Noe ...and his family for him.Sorry , but your interpretation do not fit .
@@mariotom2484 Well, you said above that you watched part of the video, so you should have heard me say in the first 20 seconds that only God knows how many go to Heaven. But we are permitted to speculate within the parameters of Church teaching (hence the first 20 seconds of the video also cites Apoc 7:9 and Mt 7:13-14). If you want to know what I think, respecting these limits, then you are welcome to watch the video. And if you cannot find the time, then don't worry about it.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I watched the video till min 17.00.It is not about time ,but this interpretation ( 2 thirds...) contradict the bible.I believe Jesus in every word He said ,because in His great mission I do not think He is joking or lying.So if He said "a few people will go to heaven " , well , this it the truth, not other alternative.
I have a six page transcript of a CZcams talk, "On the Doctrine of Limbo," by an FSSP priest about babies who die without baptism. He cites at least 10 references, including Councils, catechisms, and popes. The command from Pope Sixtus V in 1588 concerning those who carry out abortions or sterilizations is so severe that I can't quote it here but here is part of it. "Who, therefore, would not condemn... the desecration committed by one who has excluded such a soul from the blessed vision of God! Such a person is as responsible as a human being can be for preventing the soul’s attainment of the throne prepared for it in Heaven, and has deprived God of the service of His own creature.”-Pope Sixtus V, Vicar of Christ. What has the Vicar of Christ told us over and over in this quote? It’s a hard truth, but we have to face up to it. The Holy Father states that abortionists have excluded souls of aborted babies from the Beatific Vision; that abortionists prevent the souls of unbaptized babies from getting the thrones that God had prepared for them in Heaven. THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS TO ABORTED BABIES! It’s horrible. They are perfectly naturally happy, but they are not in Heaven. That’s why all the abortionists are not converting."
Pope Sixtus V was quite right to say that they are condemned who deprive "God of the service of His own creature" (it occurs to me that this includes closing churches when the faithful want to come and worship). To commit abortion is a mortal sin which unrepented leads to hell. If the soul of the aborted baby goes to hell, then the abortionist will suffer eternally that extra insult to God, and insult which is in addition to the mortal sin of murder. But this does not mean all those aborted must go to hell. Our prayers and sacrifices can help bring them to Heaven. The abortionist still suffers hell for his sin if he does not repent. But I don't think you want that we understand each other's position. I have asked you several times simple questions, most of which you ignore. How can we get anywhere if you repeatedly bash out your position but refuse to answer simple questions? I'll ask you again: do you believe (I cannot quite tell) that no soul can get to Heaven unless they were sacramentally baptised? Just answer "yes" or "no" or qualify it however you wish. For example you admitted the OT saints are in Heaven without the sacrament of baptism. That's true. We can pursue the logic of that to see that so are many more. But if you will not tell me your position, then this exchange is just confusion and wearisome.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM You write that I: "repeatedly bash out (my) position but refuse to answer simple questions." Father, I am no theologian so all I say is what I know other official sources have declared as unchangeable Church teaching. I'm sorry if that leaves you confused and weary, please have some empathy for me. I am not eager to launch out into theological questions beyond my capacity. I have read about the controversial topics you wish to discuss. I am not inclined to spar on line with a priest whom I highly admire and respect. I may make comments on your other posts, however. Yes, I have read the books on poor Fr. Feeney whom I consider a dry martyr.
It is not a problem to disagree. But I highly recommend that, unless you can back up your claims, you do not start out with accusing a priest of heresy, of sinning against the "Holy Faith", misleading the faithful etc. Why not start out just saying, "How can you say X when..." or "I don't see how this can be true..." or "How do you reconcile X with Y..." Then we can have a conversation and you can draw your conclusion and write what you like. I have heard good things about Fr Feeney but not that he was correct on baptism.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Whenever I read your comments, all the things I could say come flooding into my brain and it really is too much for me to type it all here. I would still like to send you the rest of the paper on Limbo. This morning I read some of our exchange to my husband. Now here is a man who deserves the title of theologian! Every day he spends hours studying theological matters and researching from the Fathers and Doctors of the Church and from many other sources. He grabbed a "Radio Replies" from 1938 which says definitively that "unbaptized babies cannot attain Heaven."#805. And #806 answers questions concerning whether God is being unjust. But he says that you are trying to negate God as Supreme Being by refusing to believe that when God says something, He means exactly that. Oh, there are so many other things that I would like to comment on. It is difficult to stay on topic. "Call off the dogs!" "Nip. nip, nip! You have me twirling about trying to answer to so many different issues. That seems like a dishonest tactic. I certainly could answer (God supporting me), but this is not the proper forum.
The Church teaches that God is able to give the grace of the sacrament even though no man perform the sign of it. To reject this is to restrict God. Bad theology.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Trent teaches that the initial grace of the Holy Spirit is Justice, and its not until baptism the Faith Hope and Charity are poured forth and integrated. Without this Perfect Charity there is no Prefect Contrition. Where is this Holy Innocents outlined? Fidentem Piumque Animum On the Rosary Pope Leo XIII - 1896 for, as she is most closely united with Christ she especially wishes and desires that they who have received the same Baptism with Him may be united with Him and with one another in the same faith and perfect charity. So may the sublime mysteries of this same faith by means of the Rosary devotion be more deeply impressed in men’s minds, with the happy result that “we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise.” Trent Session 6 Of this Justification the causes are these: the final cause indeed is the glory of God and of Jesus Christ, and life everlasting; while the efficient cause is a merciful God who washes and sanctifies gratuitously, signing, and anointing with the holy Spirit of promise, who is the pledge of our inheritance; but the meritorious cause is His most beloved only-begotten, our Lord Jesus Christ, who, when we were enemies, for the exceeding charity wherewith he loved us, merited Justification for us by His most holy Passion on the wood of the cross, and made satisfaction for us unto God the Father; the instrumental cause is the sacrament of baptism, which is the sacrament of faith, without which (faith) no man was ever justified; lastly, the alone formal cause is the justice of God, not that whereby He Himself is just, but that whereby He maketh us just, that, to wit, with which we being endowed by Him, are renewed in the spirit of our mind, and we are not only reputed, but are truly called, and are, just, receiving justice within us, each one according to his own measure, which the Holy Ghost distributes to every one as He wills, and according to each one’s proper disposition and co-operation. For, although no one can be just, but he to whom the merits of the Passion of our Lord Jesus Christ are communicated, yet is this done in the said justification of the impious, when by the merit of that same most holy Passion, the charity of God is poured forth, by the Holy Spirit, in the hearts of those that are justified, and is inherent therein: whence, man, through Jesus Christ, in whom he is ingrafted, receives, in the said justification, together with the remission of sins, all these (gifts) infused at once, faith, hope, and charity. Trent Session 14 The Synod teaches moreover, that, although it sometimes happen that this contrition is perfect through charity, and reconciles man with God before this sacrament be actually received, the said reconciliation, nevertheless, is not to be ascribed to that contrition, independently of the desire of the sacrament which is included therein. And as to that imperfect contrition, which is called attrition, because that it is commonly conceived either from the consideration of the turpitude of sin, or from the fear of hell and of punishment, It declares that if, with the hope of pardon, it exclude the wish to sin, it not only does not make a man a hypocrite, and a greater sinner, but that it is even a gift of God, and an impulse of the Holy Ghost, -who does not indeed as yet dwell in the penitent, but only moves him, -whereby the penitent being assisted prepares a way for himself unto justice. And although this (attrition) cannot of itself, without the sacrament of penance, conduct the sinner to justification, yet does it dispose him to obtain the grace of God in the sacrament of Penance
At 9:30, tears of joy for the two children I miscarried, and for all preborn babies lost, and prayed for.
If you prayed at the time (or however long after), and put everything in God's hands, then all will be well. What feels like a cross at the time, if bravely accepted, will be seen later to have marvellous fruit. God bless you for praying for the many.
I lost a baby 30 years ago because I had a tubal pregnancy. Little did I know I could have had a Christian burial. I was 14 weeks along.
Less than a week later my father passed from cancer.
Fast forward a few years.. I dreamt that I saw my dad , much younger, wearing his marine uniform and he was holding a toddler in his arms. He was talking to me but I don’t know what he said… my eyes were on the baby. When I woke I was upset and a friend who I shared my dream with told me I was given a gift… Today I know it was. I never greaves for my baby because losing my dad was so hurtful. He was only 66 and he was buried on his 67 th birthday.
Thank you Lord for giving me hope that one day we will be joined together as a family.
Dear Father Maudsley, I was born in 1955 and remember the beautiful traditional Mass well. The NO took over everywhere and I fell away in my youth. I returned when my children were born and had them all baptised and attend Catholic school. In my latter years I have grown to love the Traditional Mass but cannot attend it as I am chair bound. I asked the SSPX Priest if he could come out periodically and give me communion but said it was too far; the NO local Priest now comes out every 3 months and hears confession and gives Holy Communion while I otherwise watch Traditional Mass on line. My children have become agnostic and won't attend Mass at all. I don't feel happy and feel trapped in my situation; I do pray often!
Your prayers will avail much! If you persist in praying for your children to the end, never giving up hope, then God will honour that one way or another. And the less sign there is at the moment of the prayers bearing fruit, the more precious the prayers become in God's eyes because it shows the depth of your trust and faith.
And if, as is normal, you predecease your children, you can continue to intercede for them from above, please God.
I'll say a prayer for you all too. 🙏
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Your reply is so consoling for me. I shall try and remember this in my own situation with my ‘gay’ son Patrick. My wife and I pray very much for his conversion. Thank you.
Prayers for you and your family.
Ave Maria!
Green Scapular.
Your prayers for your children with faith and suffering will begot miracles
Thank you. The teaching you mention (outside the Church there is no salvation) has been on my mind a lot lately. I live in an essentially pagan country (Japan). While there are some Christians here, they are very few relative to the whole population, and while most people have probably heard of Christianity, they know very little about it and generally do not understand it. Most don't even follow their traditional Shinto and Buddhist religions anymore--they are either effectively atheist or have only a vague sense of God and a spiritual world. This goes for the family I married into as well as most natives I've met here. There is also no Latin mass offered publicly anywhere in the country, and the propagandemic has rolled on with virtually no opposition and bishops or pastors still closing churches or limiting attendance, replacing holy water with alcohol sprays, and telling everyone to wear the mask of submission in spite of the obvious problem that the alleged "plague" never ends and the alleged "cases" have gone up 40x from 2 years ago and at least double from the injection rollout. (I use neither masks nor "sanitizers", but as far as I can tell I'm the only one in my parish and most of the places I've been.) Where do you begin when people don't even recognize such obvious falsehood, much less have a strong belief in anything beyond the material world?
Sounds very tough. Sorry I don't have any ready answers. But if you have, or if you can develop, a 'rule of life', this is an important discipline for surviving in hard environments. It could be, for example, a daily prayer routine: certain things which you will be sure to do every day, and others which you might do weekly or monthly.
A basic rule would be (although I do not know your circumstances, or what you are doing already):
- daily Rosary, daily Bible reading (5mins to 30mins, according to obligations / opportunity... but do the same every day: start small, build up slowly, until you find what works). If possible, 15-30mins mental prayer; 15-20 mins spiritual reading. Plus the Angelus and grace for meals. And morning and evening prayer, even if very short.
- weekly: a different plan for Sunday. If you are doing all the above 6 days a week, then you might just pray the Rosary Sunday, and the Mass, and then whatever works.
- monthly: Five First Saturdays devotion, or Nine First Fridays; and continue with these indefinitely as they are wonderful spiritual practices.
I've written to much! I just mean to say, if you can keep a disciplined program, then that will help you come through where there is little support. And the stronger you are in yourself, then the better you will be able to witness to those around you.
Forgive me if I have assumed too much! But I agree the widespread absurdities in the name of health can make us think mankind has completely lost the plot. When it invades the Church, it is more tragic still.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Thank you, that is all very helpful. Thanks to Fr. Altier and Fr. Altman, I've been doing some of these things already, like a daily Rosary and Divine Mercy Chaplet, and read the whole Bible from last year to this year. Lately I'm doing other reading (currently mostly visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich) as I have trouble focusing on more than one thing at a time or fitting much in consistently with the constantly changing schedules at home. I guess if I had to ask a couple specific questions, it would be what do you recommend for a simple morning and bedtime prayer, particularly so a young child and non-Catholic wife could participate? And what other simple prayers or reading could I do with them to help teach them? And finally, how are we supposed to meditate, either in isolation or while praying the Rosary? I have never understood what is meant by the word well and especially have trouble understanding how you're supposed to pray and meditate at the same time. (I still constantly struggle with my mind starting to wander or little distractions and interruptions cropping up.) Anyway I am sure you're busy so please don't feel obligated to respond directly, but perhaps you could touch on some of this in future presentations, or if you've already discussed it in past videos, point me to the link(s).
@@autobotsNdecepticons When I say the Rosary, I go through the mysteries as if l am there with Jesus, Mary, Joseph and the Apostles - almost like watching a movie but there with them.
@@maryhamill36 Thank you for sharing. I'm not sure if it's just that I don't know enough or what, but I am working my way through the visions of Anne Catherine Emmerich primarily because I thought it might help me understand the mysteries of the Rosary and other aspects of faith and Church teaching better.
If anyone has time or good points to make in response to the questions in this comment, I'll be very grateful too! Thanks Mary Hamill for your response. The specific questions are: "...what do you recommend for a simple morning and bedtime prayer, particularly so a young child and non-Catholic wife could participate? And what other simple prayers or reading could I do with them to help teach them? And finally, how are we supposed to meditate, either in isolation or while praying the Rosary?"
Blessed are you Father Maudsley for receiving the courage to teach & preach the Lord’s truth to His people. Only eternity will show how many souls you helped save! Thank you and God Bless.
Thank you so much. I greatly desired baptism for the baby I miscarried. Now I have hope that he is with God.
God can supply such grace whenever He wishes. Though He does not owe it, and it is not automatic, given the desire and prayers of the mother, and the innocence of the little one, I think you can be confident in this hope. What seems to us like misfortune is only ever allowed by God so that He may draw a greater good from it for those who cooperate with Him. And you know in Heaven all humans are at a 'perfect age', not the age they had when they died. So the infants who come to Heaven will at the General Resurrection be given fully grown and glorified bodies. And if your prayers are the chief cause for saving grace to be given to your child, then what a wonderful encounter in Heaven that will be! 🙏
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Thank you, Father. I named him? Peter and said the words of Baptism over him in the John.
Thank you Fr. JM for this Video. God is Love and Just, merciful and kind.
Fr. Maudsley, you give the most riveting sermons I have ever heard - keep saving souls!
Thankyou Fr James, i never knew this about the babies, my goodness , I'm going to pray for them from now on, thank you so MUCH for this teaching, I am learning so much from you, ive been a Catholic for 30 years and I'm learning so much now, thank you, God bless you 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Such a clear & beautiful analysis. Let us pray for all souls in every state of life to increase the bounty in paradise.
Amen
Oh dear father, this is one amazing video. Well done! Glory to God 🙏💕
It flows perfectly...it just all makes so much sense, and I am so glad that we aren't expected to believe in Limbo for the children under the age of reason who were never baptized.
About the people in the flood repenting: I heard an awesome priest (Fr. Philip Wolfe) on Sensus Fidelium say exactly the same thing you said! I believe it! I believe there were people who repented, especially because Noah tried to warn them for all those years.
May God continue to bestow His wisdom upon you and may our Lady protect you from the evil one. I will continue to keep you in my daily rosary. Please pray for me. God bless you!
Thank you Father, I finally understood the phrase, "outside of the Church there is no salvation." Hope you can make more videos!
A most beautiful and hopeful presentation🙏
You are clearly divinely inspired and are a clear presenter🙏
Thank you and God bless you🙏
Pax Christi+Father! You give us so much to learn, study, think + pray about!!! -THANKS BE TO GOD! The prayers you speak of for the souls of the preborn terminated + miscarried will be shared with others. I prayed for their protection of physical protection mostly, but didn't know to pray to this degree for their souls. All the angels + saints, pray for you!
After this video I cried a little because I felt great relief from thinking for decades that most people will probably go to Hell. That never made sense to me. You have answered all my concerns over this topic. It all makes sense now. Bringing the beauty of the Old Testament to light with the New certainly ties everything together.The OT has always been difficult for me to understand but it is rich indeed.
Father Mawdsley, thank you for this gift of solace, hope and joy. Please continue your work. I'm so glad you are doing this series. The young and old are so hungry for the Trinity. May God Almighty continue to give you everything you need to save souls.
P. S. Love the ancient background in the beginning! It's such an eye-catching scene.
Most go to hell, if very clear in scripture, narrow is the way and few find it, repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and do not love the world but be seperate from the world you must be born again, maybe 1% will see the kingdom of God you still have time believe the gospel believe Jesus die for your sins and live for Him in everything you do, this world will take you to hell, yes everyone is perishing dont let it be you, pray to Jesus with fear and trembling and beg for mercy, we deserve hell but Christ has giving you a way out a narrow way, listen and take heed to what i tell you.
Thank you Fr Maudsley for such a lovely video on your taching of the. Catholic faith. You are such a wonderful priest. Your videos are so informative. God bless & sanctify you in your mission.
Hmmmm.....very thought provoking! This is a talk that I will listen to again and again. Thank you Father. JMJ
I love these videos thank you Fr. Maudsley
A Great talk.. HOPE+ keep going Father!!! We need you💕
Awesome video. It made me smile because recently I tried to calculate percantage of saved knowing the information that people fill gaps of fallen angel. I tought it is one to one, I took into account that there are fallen guardian angels and actual guardian angels. And I got between 45 and 100 percent. So I concluded 2/3 sounds nice. And then remembered that half of them died as children or before they were born, and that gives only 1/3 of people who reached the age of reason. And that explains the narrow gate. Few days ago I found paper with calculations and throw it in garbage thinking how I should not make such calculations because it's not my bussiness and God knows it anyway. And today I accidentaly found your video with similar logic.
So you answered my question with clear and sound Church teachings. Thank you for this video. ❤
Very thought provoking. Thank you.
Thank you father!
So so many Catholics haven’t been taught or reminded about The Last 4 things. They don’t believe in God even. Please Lord, give us good Priests, and bishops all around ASAP. HELP MY OWN SELF AND FAMILY!! 😭🙏🎄
I loved this talk father, I think it’s your best one to date.
I’m not sure why some people on here seem to be disappointed that unbaptised people & babies may be saved, and are adhering to the pessimistic theology of St Augustine (regarding unbaptised infants) as if it’s dogma (which it’s not) and are implying that the Church Fathers shared Augustine’s belief (which most didn’t)
Even the Medieval Church found the teachings of Augustine, a holy genius on so many points, unbearable to so many and moved away from it by coming up with the teaching of Limbo, which I also find such a disturbing teaching as I believe it misrepresents the Catholic faith and our loving Heavenly Father, it’s an unscriptural idea that there is some place, other than Heaven and Hell, which will be the final destination for infants who could not be baptised. Thankfully this has been rejected by Pope Benedict XVl who considered it no more than a theological opinion.
If even by human standards to send innocent infants, even not baptised, to hell, is cruel and unfair, then what does God, who is Love and Mercy itself, think of this? Of course, the Church teaches that baptism, participation in the Eucharist, as well as the life according to faith are necessary for salvation. And the Lord once said: “Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven” Does this mean that all believers and pious Christians who have not become pure as children will not enter into the kingdom of God? God applies the rules based on the whole vision of the heart of a man, while we see only small part of it. Each rule has its exceptions, and I think that the fate of unbaptised children is just one of these exceptions.
Infants are not to blame for not being baptised, therefore judging and punishing them with hell is unworthy of God’s Love. “In my Father’s house are many mansions” (John 14:2). The infants did not make efforts to attain the Kingdom, but they did not have such an opportunity. Therefore, the bliss of the saints in Heaven is one thing, and of innocent and sinless children is another. However, St. Ephraim the Syrian says that infants in paradise are equal to angels and they will be higher than many Saints for their sinlessness. Unbaptised children will be in paradise, will be saved, and God will determine the measure of their bliss.
There are many statements from scripture that speak to ALL humanity; "For God so loved the world ... " this is not a limiting statement; God's love extends to all the world. Nor does the objective "... to reconcile to Himself all things ... " have limits; Trinitarian objectives are universal. We are reminded that the "Spirit blows wherever it wills" (John 3:8). Peter the Apostle states that. "Truly I perceive God shows no partiality, but in every nation anyone who fears Him and does what is right is acceptable to Him" (Acts 10:34-35). St. Paul, addressing the Athenians at the Areopagus, observes that they worship an unknown God, whose name and message he came to proclaim (Acts 17:23-31).
The salvation of all people, including non-Christians, depends on the great goodness and mercy of the Omniscient and Omnipotent God who desires the salvation of all people. Those who live in faith and virtue, though outside the Church, receive God's loving grace and salvation. Saint Paul reminds us, "O the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and how inscrutable His ways!" (Rom. 11: 33).
The issue of a person’s fate after physical death falls within the competence of God, not man and thankfully God doesn’t judge like we do. His thoughts and ways aren’t the same as ours… which is cause for celebration for some and cause for concern for others, especially reading some of the comments on here and on other traditional Catholic websites were you’d think that its only the ‘super trads’ who are going to be saved! And we all know that Our Lord had very stern things to say to those type of religious people back in His day. It’s better to be a Publican than a Pharisee.
Ultimately we’re all going to be judged on one thing; how much did we love.
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner.
I can watch this over and over again
Father, your thoughts carry many good intentions, it is not my place to contradict or even attempt to correct a priest. I say this with the utmost respect, your understanding and explanation are most lacking in charity although well intended. Thank you father
Beloved Padrecito of God, I am a prodigal Catholic whose discovering that very few are indeed walking in the narrow path... I had no idea about Rosary or feast days or latin mass or receiving on the tongue kneeling before I left. I can only assume and be grateful to my Savior Jesus that He called me home and for this I now live to serve Him for eternity. May His name be blessed forever. Thank you for these teachings for I would not hear them otherwise as my parish is N.O. Viva Cristo Rey
You know of the devotion of the Most Precious Blood of Jesus Christ, that came out of Africa? He was telling people to go Latin Rite for a long time. And back in the 90s he said take no drug the gov gives.
But, one of the prayers given was for the baptism of aborted babies.
Currently reading your first book Adam's Deep Sleep - it is great; looking forward to the other books in the series.
Blessed Feast Day of Christ the King! Hope the book(s) help increase our love of the Old Testament saints, and prepare us for whatever is coming.
Thank you so much for this wonderful class Father. God bless you to help me to learn.
I just brought your book.Adam’s Deep Sleep.
Wonderful !
Thanks, God bless you 🙏
Extraordinary evaluation. Thank you so much. All of time spent doing our own will must change at the end of earthly life or BEFORE HOPEFULLY. The Divine Will rules all things, except our fallen free will. We need to fuse our will with the Divine Will as much as possible. That's the ticket.The Will of God done, WITH OUR WILL UNITED WITH GOD
I believe in God and lord jesus Christ
Another edifying video, thank you Father. I finished devouring your book and it is awesome, so rich for meditation. I think I'll buy another copy and donate it to the local NO parish library. I go there for adoration at their chapel and frequent the library but sadly there's quite a few modernist books. Trying to slowly add some traditional lit as I am able to financially. They are not averse to tradition, they just are not aware, for the most part.
p.s. Is it a sin to remove heretical literature? I confess I've done it, surreptitiously. Thanks again Father.
Happy to hear the book feeds your meditations. And 👍 to a copy for the local parish library.
For removing heretical literature, I suppose the best way would be to bring it to the attention of those responsible, and ask if they will remove it. Probably there would be a discussion on why. Then you would need to hone your arguments (which is good for you), relate these to them (which is good for them). Then pray for a good result. Even if they do not remove it immediately, it will might help them on the particular issue and probably help them be aware of the general importance of sound literature.
If this approach brings no fruit, it might be worth gathering a group of like minded people to make the same point with more weight.
If all this fails, and if it is an egregiously heretical work which you are sure contains teaching condemned by the Church... well, God guide your discernment. Given such books are dangerous, poisonous, and they stink, then there will be times when it is right to remove them.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Excellent advice, thank you Father.
Excellent Fr. We must Not keep silent.
How about inserting an index card with a list of what is heretical and scripture plus catechism citations to back it up? There will be no problem with “stealing” them. Possibly, you could sign them out and just happen to keep them a long time? I don’t know the policy at your library. Any chance of “losing” them, paying, and destroying the books? This assumes there is some means of seeing to it the money isn’t used to buy duplicate copies. I like Fr.’s idea best, but it may not be successful in a novus ordo parish.
Thank you Fr!
This was wonderful. Christ bless Fr. Mawdsley.
Myles Maloney
Thank you Fr. JM for this Video. Great teaching. God is Love, Just and Merciful.
Praying for your good works. Keep it up. God bless.
Just picked up your book Crushing Satan's head........it is a very satisfying title Father .
This video gives me hope that the eternal joy of beatific vision will not be denied the innocent unborn victims of sinful mothers as well as the miscarried unborn.
Thank you, Father.
As for me, I will strive and aim for heaven.
There are so many women who have received hope and encouragement from this talk. They are women who have lost babies by aborting them or contracepting them. Many women have contracepted for 20+ years and lost hundreds of babies. (I use the word 'lost' as a cruel euphemism.) It is cruel to billions of unborn to say that their mothers (and fathers) 'lost' them. These babies, now 'people,' who had been intended by God to inherit a throne and eternal glory, have been robbed of their inheritance. And if those who are responsible have at times received actual graces to repent, confess, and do penance, this talk of: "Maybe, somehow the babies will get to heaven," is very encouraging for women to stay on their 'monthly meds.' In fact, this talk encourages women to tell their daughters that they do not need to be 'baby machines.' This talk brings such relief from guilt to so many; but no relief to the victims. I have read countless lives of the saints and countless books about various devotions revealed from heaven, but in more than 2,000 years, there has never been a saint who promoted prayer for the unbaptized deceased babies.
You are absolutely wrong.
First, this is no consolation to anyone guilty of mortal sin. They must repent their sin or they will go to hell. If your idea of 'success', of the meaning of life, is limited simply to 'getting into Heaven', then you will not understand this. But if you are moved by a consuming love of God, if you want to serve to the maximum the increase of His external glory, then you will want as many souls as you can touch -- including your own -- to get as close to God as possible, to serve Him as fully as possible. For Heaven has a hierarchy. A baby killed in the womb can be brought to Heaven by God, but (aside from God's obvious better plan), it were better had that baby lived and grown and worshipped God in a long and fruitful life. God has been robbed of a potential contribution to His external glory.
Secondly you are wrong like others who have commented on this video because you imagine if an aborted baby CAN get to Heaven, by God's Sovereign choice, then there is nothing we should do but sit back and smile as if it were all automatic. Why should it be so? Why should not God do this great good as a response to the earnest prayers and sacrifices of the faithful? Why not a great use by Mary the Mother of God of the treasury of graces which she and the Saints have merited for the Church, and which the Sacred Heart of Jesus makes infinite? Why should a mother who miscarries not pray for her child? It is totally natural and the best thing for her consolation. Such consolation is of God. It is not wicked or dumb to be consoled by trusting in His Almighty Mercy. And when good Christians pray outside abortion clinics, although they prevent many deaths, they do not, obviously, prevent all. Why not, beside to their prayers of defence of the unborn and prayers for the conversion of those sinning, also add the intention for the safe delivery into Heaven of those actually aborted? It is unlikely the parents of the victims will do this at the time, so those holding vigil step in for the sake of the innocent.
You do not have to believe any of this. But you are absolutely wrong to say Church teaching forbids such thinking. It does not.
I have asked you lots of simple questions in other comments here, but you do not answer. So I cannot tell what is driving you to such folly that you take it on yourself to speak in the name of the Church and condemn what is not condemned, forbid what is not forbidden. Be content to disagree. If you will not pray for those who die before baptism, thank God there are many women and men who do. The little ones will be eternally grateful.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I am sorry. I don't see all my responses here. I wrote about what St. Thomas More would do, and other things... Is there a way I can write directly to you, because other priests have instructed those of us who were praying on the sidewalks differently and they have told us not to pray for the aborted babies because it supports heresy. There are particular prayers they have said we shouldn't pray. I don't want to cause a storm, but my sensus fidelium immediately saw that these priests were right, but you 'march to a different drummer'...maybe because your heart is so big. But... did you pray the Office yesterday? If so, then you read this: Matt. 16:24-27 Lesson viii ~~The Stigmata of St. Francis~~ Sept. 17.
...Here, "He (Jesus) says that we must give up ourselves. Perhaps it is not very hard for a man to leave his possessions; but it is very much harder to leave himself. It is a little thing to give up what we have; but a great thing to give up what we are...
R. God forbid that I should glory, save in the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ; By which the world is crucified to me, and I to the world." --- Taken from The Roman Breviary
By this (these are my words, not a quote) I mean to direct your thoughts to two things: 1. Your situation is multiplied by countless others who are buffering God's just wrath by the suffering of being forbidden to do what they know they were created to do; and, 2. God knows and loves each created human more than we ever could. It is not our task to find a New Way to get around God's omniscience and make Him do better by us. We don't stop praying with all our strength to be able to fulfill His primary will for us -- and we wait. Because we will see God triumph through the patience of His saints.
I do believe that the angels of the Little Ones, frozen and in drawers, somehow know who cares and they are grateful. Let us pray for these frozen embryos while they yet live. God allows them (and you) to plead their cause.
I have no words.. Thank you Father!
Father, I have recently come to realize some I have listened to on u-tube are enamored of the writings of Luisa Piccaretta and appreciate your videos refuting these writings. I think that material gets snuck into their content leaving viewers in the dark about it. I’m wanting to know how best to figure out who is safe to listen to now. I’m thinking Henry Westen is okay.
Fr Mawdsley please can you discuss the ressurection. When heaven is spoken about it appears as if the ressurection is lost. I have recently become a catholic and aome of my new friends do not have any understanding of the ressurection because of hiw they percieve heaven neing the final destination.
I love hearing this again. Its great teachings.❤
Sermon extra ordinary. Appreciate the clarifications about non Christians having the possibility to be saved. It seems the bottom line of who is saved is up Jesus.
The thief who was saved at crucification was saved even though he was not baptized. I have had a lot of Protestants try to convert me. I tell them I will continue to follow the Catholic dogma and they should follow the Bible 100% as that is the belief they profess. I agree the Bible is 100% true is properly interpreted. Problem with all of us is we try to lawyer the Bible verses to allow our sins. If the Protestants actually follow the Bible, I pray they get to heaven. Even though they say Catholics are mostly going to hell, I refrain from judging.
As a Catholic, the Church has given us many gifts, with confession being a very important one. I am an American living in Germany and confession is rarely offered so an appointment required.
When I was still working, ISO standards were developed to make a stand quality output. The laws were reviewed, the most important aspects were identified, goals established, procedures developed, work done, performance assessed periodically and then changes made. A system which should result in continuous improvement. I see the Bible as being the law and the Catholic Church being the rest which is essentially the implementing procedure. I believe God created the church for us and not for himself. Jesus talked about this when his disciples were being judged.
How many souls go to heaven ? No one knows. Wild speculation only reveals our own desires or theological training. There are universal salvationists who believe in "mercy for all" meaning "slavery for all" for no one can turn against God. This is opposed to what Jesus says in the Bible and common sence. On the other hand there are those who believe that hardly any one is saved apart from themselves. The Church has never said the numbers "de fide" quite rightly and we should leave it at that. Rest content when we need to know God will reveal it to us and not before. Limbo is required because without it children under at least seven years old are damned if they are not baptized. The church has stated this for the last two thousand years. Modern(ist) Theological "training" reveals its weaknesses. Limbo is a place of mercy.
Surely when the Church leaves a matter open, that is precisely when it is acceptable to speculate? So long as one does not present ones opinion as dogma, then through exchanges of ideas we can grow in understanding. I don't mind being corrected if I make mistakes, but the idea that we should shut our brains down because the Church has not pronounced on something is misguided. It is when the Church has definitively pronounced a teaching that one should not dispute it publicly (but if one has a difficulty with it, go and find someone who can give guidance).
We never will "need" to know on earth the numbers that reach Heaven, so it is exceedingly unlikely God will ever "reveal" it. But as mentioned in the video and the description, by considering and discussing these matters which are left open, we can find motivation to hope and pray for others, and work for the greater glory of God.
To your point on unbaptised children being damned, what about the Holy Innocents? They did not by any natural power engage their wills in their martyrdom (being babies under 2 years old, how could they?). But given God has brought these to Heaven, and has also brought Hebrews and non-Hebrews from before the time of Christ to Heaven (e.g. Moses, Abel, Job), then evidently God is not bound by the Sacraments, although we are. In which case, if we pray for those who have died before they reach the age of reason, and for some reason did not receive baptism (e.g. aborted, or being a destroyed embryo, or born in a culture hostile to the Faith), why should God not grant this prayer request? He does not have to, but it is well worth praying for, because He wants us to help each other reach Heaven.
The Holy Innocents are counted as martyers of the faith and martyrdom is counted as a form of baptism in church theology. Baptism of water, Baptism of desire and baptism of blood ie martyrdom. Remember God wants us to be saved but we do not need to know everything to be saved. That we are saved by "knowledge alone" is gnosticism. When God requires us to know He will reveal it to us until then we need to be humble and patient. Your videos are good and I like them as you have a lot to contribute so all criticism should be seen as positive suggestions. God allows the critic not in order to only pull down but in order to build up. Personally I have lost a child to miscarriage so I would be delighted if that child was in heaven but it is not what the church has traditionally said, thus Limbo is a place of mercy. Let's disagree in that same mercy of God. Best wishes and I look forward to your next wonderful video! God Bless you and may He bless me too.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM The Church hasn't "left it open," Father - you keep saying that, but it isn't true! You seem to be labouring under the mistaken notion that anything which isn't defined dogma is fair game. Please look further into this. The only people who have called it into question in recent times have been the modernist Vatican II Popes.
Living Holy Spirit is in you!!
2/3? 0.666. Why this number? I can’t see anything in the Bible on the percentage. Although, we are told the way is narrow - which always led me to believe that only a minority will make it. However, it remains unclear and so it should remain. I pray to Jesus Christ that I may still make it - and I can help as many as possible to do so too. Hearing His Word is special. I did as a child - but forgot. Now as an adult, I hear Him again for the first time properly. His Word is the perfect new equation. The New Covenant!
I would be very cautious to make it so simple for the unbaptized to enter heaven. To me, the true horror of abortion is it robs the child of baptism.
Is the mention of those without or outside the Church… should read : ‘The’ Church ???
Amen! Souls should tremble to approach the LOVE, Love that lowered to feed us! DOMUNE, non sum dignus.....
I always felt that Oscar Wilde's writings were full of catholism.
If the filling of places were to be one to one, and every person has a single guardian angel, and 2/3 of people were to go to heaven, this would mean that around 73% of angels are guardian angels.
Anything less than 50% of angels being guardian angels would require more than 100% people going to heaven (to have all places filed if one to one). If 100% of angels were guardian angels, you would have 49,25% people going to heaven.
Just some math.
Edit: I of course don't think it's one to one, this wouldn't make sense. In the parable of the talents, the third servant's talent is given to the one who had ten.
There is a Sermons by st Leonard of port Maurice on this....
Yeah out of 33000, 2 went to Heaven, 3 went to purgatory and the rest go to Hell.
100% TRUTH. Father, thank you.
So to not give someone the gospel is to their salvation, and to give the gospel is for damnation?
This can not be the case
1st peter 4:17,18
17 For the time has come for judgment to begin with the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God? 18 And
“If the righteous man is scarcely saved,
where will the impious and sinner appear?”
That error is dealt with in the video.
Salvation is ultimately a matter of love, a love wants the best for the beloved. So even though hearing the Gospel brings a great responsibility with it (of those who have received much, much will be expected), love does not complain about that responsibility, nor complain we will be held to a more exacting judgement.
By living according to the Gospel we add to the extrinsic glory of God. Love wants to do this. It does not simply ask "Will I be saved or not?"
The idea in the video that 2/3 might reach Heaven depends hugely on the fact that most souls do not even reach birth before they die / are killed. These have no choice about hearing the Gospel. I think it is very easy for them to get to Heaven. But nobody can choose that course of life. Those of us who reach the age of reason do have choices, but to chose to reject the Gospel is spiritually insane / wicked / works against salvation. To choose not to give the Gospel is likewise a cruelty and self-harm.
Sorry if this is badly expressed. I confess it is wrapped around a mystery.
Thank you Father for your answer.
I know its been a while since I commented but I just revisited your video.
I'm sorry this is a long post. And Im not challenging you, but rather seek understanding. I want to believe this. I want to believe most men are saved even those who have reached the age of reason. I want to believe what Pope Benedict said in Spe salve, that there are a few who go straight to heaven, a few so twisted that the can not cooperate with God's grace that they go to hell, but most go to Purgatory. Which means they are saved.
If we are not bound to accept what the Pope said on this, then we are certainly not bound to accept what st. Leonard of port Maurice said.
The issue Im having is that the idea that unbaptized infants go to heaven seems to be against what the councils of Trent and Florence have said:
Council of Trent session 7
CANON V.-If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation; let him be anathema.
( not sure of the canon)
If any one denies, that infants, newly born from their mothers’ wombs, even though they be sprung from baptized parents, are to be baptized;
or says that they are baptized indeed for the remission of sins, but that they derive nothing of original sin from Adam, which has need of being expiated by the laver of regeneration ( which is baptism) for the obtaining life everlasting, - whence it follows as a consequence, that in them the form of baptism, for the remission of sins, is understood to be not true, but false, - let him be anathema.
Council of Florence
The souls of those who depart this life in actual mortal sin, or in original sin alone, go down straight away to hell to be punished, but with unequal pains
Regarding children, indeed, because of danger of death, which can often take place, since no help can be brought to them by another remedy than through the sacrament of baptism, through which they are snatched from the domination of the devil and adopted among the sons of God, "
Augustin believed unbaptized babies suffered positive punishment.
It seems to me the alternative to limbo is not they go to heaven.
Or are you saying some go to limbo but others can be saved through prayer.
Which interests me. I'm all about praying for the dead. And I've heard some say that we can pray for unbaptized infants, even pray them out of Limbo. Do you know if any mystics or saints have said this? If you said in the video I missed it.
Like I said, I want to believe this.
Most of my family and friends are Protestant and my sister and my daughter have both had miscarriages. But I'm not looking for what I want to believe. I'm trying to find the truth, though it may not be possible in this topic
Charlemagne I believe was not baptized until his deathbed, which allowed him to be a politician right up to that point.
It can be all or none. It's not a quota system. As for two thirds, I think that's a far to optimistic. If you don't want to go to hell, then act accordingly.
You might be missing the point about the murdered unborn (hence 2/3). And what action can anyone expect from the unborn?
Exsul Familia Nazarethana
Apostolic Constitution
Pope Pius XII - 1952
When the priests are absent, what ruin for those who must leave this world either unbaptized or still chained by sin! What sadness for their friends, who will not have them as companions in the repose of eternal life! What grief for all, and whet blasphemy by some, due to the absence of the priest and of his ministry.
The reason that St. Leonard of Port Maurice says that he will only consider Catholics is that he believes what Jesus has always taught through His Church: The set of the saved does not include those who die outside of membership in the Church.
That's not the reason St Leonard gives in his homily. He says: "Note well that there is no question here of the human race taken as a whole, nor of all Catholics taken without distinction, but only of Catholic adults, who have free choice and are thus capable of cooperating in the great matter of their salvation."
Read his homily (On the Few that are Saved") and you will see he is talking about those capable of cooperating through the use of their reason and will. That means, generally, those over 7 years old. The Saint says specifically that he is talking about Christian adults. He does not exclude babies or the unborn because they must all go to hell (which he nowhere even hints), but because this point is irrelevant to those he is addressing: baptised adults.
You and I do not know all the souls God draws into the Catholic Church, nor how. We know baptism works, and we are obliged to promote it as best we can. But God is not bound by it. That is the teaching of the Church.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Now there are two points you obscure. You lump together babies (baptized or not) and the unborn and shunt them to the Hell slide. As if I were saying that. You know I am not saying that. Secondly, God makes His rules and then He may or may not reveal them to us. You speak as if I am saying I know who God calls and how. I am not saying that. You say that we know that Baptism works. What does that mean? And then: "We are obliged to promote it as best we can." (The great Sacrament of Baptism!!--"Damned by faint praise..." --Shakespeare.) God is bound by His sacraments, and He proclaimed that He was. In His Perfect Wisdom, He has bound Himself by His sacraments. That is all we know. In all humility, that is all we dare proclaim. Who are we to tell God that all these millennia He should have instituted a Mass to save babies who died without baptism? No. God is the Truth. Follow God, not your imagination.
Actually, I don't really know what you are saying. That's why I was asking questions below. To try to understand where you are coming from. You accuse me of teaching fiction and heresy, but you do not specify what I said that was supposedly false. So it is difficult for me to know what you are thinking. But it is clear you to begin with hostility!
This statement of yours is absolutely insupportable: "God is bound by His sacraments, and He proclaimed that He was." When did He proclaim that? He will honour the Sacraments which we perform, but He is not prevented from giving grace to whom and whenever and however He wishes. That's why I asked you below if you believe that with God "no thing is impossible" (Lk 1:37). If you understand what "thing" means, or "word", as in real being, then you will understand that God Who is Almighty is not bound by the Sacraments.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Yikes! I am not feeling hostile. I am so sorry! You can be sure of my regard for you; but for Jesus first. An example of Jesus being bound by His sacraments is that Jesus always comes down at the words of Consecration --even at clown Masses and such. To me it seems all wrong.
Does it seem all wrong for you that there are no Masses for the souls of the infants who die without Baptism? They are not remembered in November, either. The doctors of the Church would often refer to the liturgical prayers to decide the truth of a teaching. The teaching is: We do not pray for the unbaptized to go to Heaven. The truths of the Faith forbid it. Also, we do not put their bodies in the Catholic cemetery, but in a separate "Babyland." Why? Because the Church teaches that on the Last Day, they will not rise 'glorious and immortal' with the baptized Catholics. This much we know. I think you are talking about something else when you say God is not bound... but it is safer to stay away from the realm of speculation. The Church does not pray for the deceased unbaptized babies. We should respect that and not promote novelties, lest we scandalize the weak.
Good -- glad if we keep it amicable.
God honours the Sacraments we perform (even, as you note, when unworthily), but He is not bound by them. That is Church teaching and it means God can give whatever graces He wishes even when we do not give the Sacraments.
The absence of customary prayers is certainly not a prohibition against them. The Church does not have a Mass formula for those who commit suicide and did not allow them to be buried in Catholic cemeteries either but it was never forbidden to prayer for the souls of those who committed suicide. And it is definitely good to have Masses said for them, but the intention must be private so as not to cause scandal. It should not be printed, for example, on a bulletin. The reason is not because the prayers and Mass cannot work, but because it was sensibly not thought good to give this impression so blatantly, lest people relax in their thinking about suicide. Similarly for unbaptised babies. If in the early Church it were commonly thought as certain that these can come to Heaven, then given our indolence, there might not have been the same missionary imperative. But as the Fathers discussed the matter, they came up with various theological ideas, and limbo developed as a plausible option, but the Church did not decide on this definitively. And just as this stance served the marvellous propagation of the Church, it seems utterly reasonable to me -- and it is not against Church teaching so please do not say it is without magisterial support -- that in these days of ours when billions of humans are killed before they reach the age of reason, it is especially good that we be encouraged to pray and make sacrifice for their souls. Who knows if we are near the end times (I do not know)? But it would be perfect timing for us make such prayers now, without neglecting any opportunity for baptism.
To be honest, I do not know if the main point you wish to make is:
i) Those not sacramentally baptised cannot possibly get to Heaven, unless they were of the Old Testament, in which case they can.
OR
ii) That the vast majority of souls go to hell (which I think you said elsewhere).
OR
iii) That 'no salvation outside the Church' means that unless someone is clearly a professed Catholic, they go to hell.
Honestly, I do not know where you are coming from. If any of those 3 options are what you believe, let me know. Or if you reject any of them, let me know.
It is not 'safer' to stay away from the realm of speculation. That is disastrous. It means the Church would stop thinking. She never did this. She always speculated. But safety lies in being able to distinguish between what is certain truth (dogma), what is open for debate and speculation, and what is forbidden (error, heresy). If we can distinguish between these 3, then conversations can be very fruitful. Priests should not speculate much in their homilies; they should teach and exhort. Catechists should not speculate in sacramental preparation classes; they should teach doctrine. But in conversation, at the dinner table, on walks, on CZcams videos, it is fine to speculate -- especially when the content is noted to be an opinion, as I made clear in the video.
So the following is false: "The teaching is: We do not pray for the unbaptized to go to Heaven. The truths of the Faith forbid it." You draw too strong a conclusion from premises which do not support it. You can have your opinion about entering Heaven, but we are certainly not forbidden to pray for any deceased soul.
It would be nice! But the Doctors and Fathers are virtually unanimous on the contrary, as per St. Leonard of Port Maurice. (also, your take deviates greatly from the sense of his sermon; your implication is that one is *better off* being ignorant of the Gospel, making familiarity with the Word of God more of a curse than a blessing; pardon if I misheard you but that's what I gathered!)
One interesting thing I read, from Ven. Mary of Agreda, is that (if indeed the Blesséd Virgin Mary was speaking to this holy nun), souls are not created at conception, but rather at around day 40 for boys, and day 80 for girls. Christ and the Blessed Mother were both ensouled on day 7, all per "Mystical City of God".
Thou Will be done!!!
Pope Francis would like to think hell is empty
So, when Our Lord said "few find it" he meant a 2/3 majority? Although even 1/3 seems shockingly high, wouldn't it make more sense for the final ratio to be 1/3 saved and 2/3 unsaved? I say that both because the saved take the places in heaven of the fallen 1/3 of angels, and because that is the ratio of those that will resist the Antichrist.
The video addresses those points.
What do you think of babies who die in the womb? Can God bring them to Heaven? Would you say they "find" the Way?
And the video addresses the point with the proportion of angels. We do not replace them numerically, as there are far too many of them (the 1/3 fallen likely far exceeds the number of humans ever created).
Blessed Passiontide!
A lot of people go to heaven
Father, I am very surprised by this talk. There are many errors. Church fathers would not agree on many points. I will try to put a list together. Unbaptized (aborted) babies go to limbo, not heaven. Few find the narrow path...but 2/3 are saved? None of this makes sense or corresponds with Traditional scripture or teachings. God bless you.
I understand it is surprising for many. But you are premature in talking about error.
1) Limbo is a theory. We are permitted to believe in it, but not required to do so. This idea has no mention whatsoever in the sources of revelation. And since being proposed in various forms it has been constantly argued over since it contains irreducible difficulties. Therefore the Church has never taught it definitively. Feel free to try and answer the difficulties, but do not insist others believe in this possibility. These difficulties include: do the souls supposedly in Limbo have a natural desire for a supernatural end? Without the beatific vision, what is it that fixes their wills on the good, or can they sin? If they communicate with each other, can they communicate what they heard about Jesus Christ?
2) When Jesus said the way is narrow (Lk 13:23-30; Mt 7:13-29), you will see from the context He is addressing those who know or claim to know God or the Word of God. He is not talking about aborted babies or even non-Christians in invincible ignorance. So yes, the way is narrow and few find it. But to 'find' is active. And it is not expected of aborted babies that they search for the truth of God and find it. I do not say they go to Heaven automatically, but that they can enter Heaven as the result of the prayers of others and the Church's treasury of graces and the infinite merits of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. Did you know that more people are aborted each day than the number of those who die after birth? Did you know more people die each day due to IVF and embryological experiments than are aborted? Therefore, now at least two thirds of people die each day before they are born. You can argue none of these get to Heaven if you wish. But you cannot prove it, and we are permitted to believe in the efficacy of prayer and sacrifice for them. Therefore it is possible for the majority of souls to come to Heaven while even only a minority actually "find" the way.
3) Whatever the Fathers and saints of the past taught, they were not thinking of an age when the majority of people are killed or die before their birth. When St Leonard of Port Maurice preached the great majority go to hell, he made it very clear that he is talking about Christians. He is not talking about those who die before they reach the age of reason or about people in invincible ignorance.
I offer my opinion because Church teaching does not exclude its possibility. I think it is coherent and optimal. You are free to disagree, free to believe in Limbo, but as the Church does not require us to believe in this idea then you cannot require me to believe in it. You are free to disagree that aborted babies can come to Heaven, but the Church allows for the possibility, so you cannot require that I do not believe it. On this basis, two thirds is possible. Therefore I think you overstep in saying there are "many errors" in the video. If you can make a list of them then we will see.
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Thanks for reply Father. Will study and return thoughts soon. God bless. Fr Jenkins video above excellent, as always.
As above so below. As 1/3 of angels fell, why not 1/3, of humans ?
Many heresies in this one. Christ did not lie when He spoke to Nicodemus about the necessity of Water Baptism in John 3:5 which was also declared through the Magisterium of the Council of Trent as to be understood "as it is written". As for Baptism of Desire and Baptism of Blood the Church has never declared this to be true, it is mentioned by many but is not a doctrine or a dogma but a fable for itching ears. The Council of Trent declared One Baptism of Water. The sobering reality is also declared through Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence regarding Jews, Heretics, Schismatics and even those who shed their blood for the name of Christ; they are all lost. Please look it up, the truth must be told . Those in "invincible Ignorance" of the Gospel although not held accountable for not knowing, they are condemned, since they are above the age of reason, for their other sins ( no-one is without sin), "even a righteous man sins 7 times" Prov 24:16, so without repentance or knowing of the saving blood of Christ and without water Baptism, or Absolution from a Valid Catholic Priest they have no hope. Much more to unpick here. So much wrong theology.
Can you tell me, do you believe that Abel, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Job are in Heaven? And the Holy Innocents? If you are willing to answer, we can build on that, and it might help you overcome your false ideas as expressed above.
I have had other people insisting on the position which you outline, but they are either not willing to answer my questions, or else they have the most bizarre and non-Catholics theories to account for these who received no sacramental baptism being in Heaven.
In any case, God bless.
Without doubt, men (the Church) are bound by the Sacraments. We are obliged to give and receive baptism as far as we are able. But God is not bound by the Sacraments, and can save whomsoever He wills, by giving the grace of the sacrament, even if they have not had the outward sacrament itself. As an example, Dismas, the Good Thief, was told by Jesus "This day you will be with Me in paradise". This is certainly true, and I hope you accept that Dismas did not receive sacramental baptism.
The obligation to baptise was imposed by Jesus after His Resurrection. Yet He still has the power, of course, to give saving grace to whomever He wills. It would be absurd to hold that men who never heard the Law or Gospel could be saved before the Resurrection, but not after it. Yet Job and Abel, who came before, are certainly saved. So also those who adhere to the natural law nowadays, and seek to please God, even though they have never been taught about baptism.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Thank you for your reply. Before the promulgation of the Gospel, Baptism was not required for salvation but afterwards it was. This is why Jesus said to the Jews that unless they accepted Him as the Messiah they would die in their sins. The 'good' thief died while still under the law of Moses and was justified by the Old covenant along with his repentance. The others you mention from Abel onwards were not bound by the Gospel but were saved by being chosen by God to know and obey Him. From Moses onwards only those under the Old Covenant, which the Church has declared as having ended around the promulgation of the Gospel and replaced by the New Covenant in the Blood of Christ, would be saved, "...those who believe and are baptised will be saved, those who do no not believe will be condemned." No soul can enter Heaven without being baptised, the Church has made this clear. That is not to say that a child before the age of reason (of sin), or if aborted or stillborn, has sinned because they are not baptised, they being innocent of sin have no atonement to make but can still not be admitted to Heaven because of the mark of Original sin. There is no doctrine or dogma on where they will be in eternity but the Church Fathers clearly suggest a similar place of existence as the Jews who died before Christ - the 'Bosom of Abraham' otherwise spoken of as Limbo. As for all the rest who are of an age to be in sin, God provides actual grace and divine light to draw those to the Gospel truths and to the Church sacraments only whom he finds worthy. There are many accounts of pagan people and remote island tribes having had bi-locating religious visiting them and teaching and baptising them, then of course there were the Missionaries. Trent: "If any one saith, that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and, on that account, wrests, to some sort of metaphor, those words of our Lord Jesus Christ; Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost; let him be anathema." We must leave it to the 'modernist' heretics in the vatican etc to say that Church teaching and dogma can evolve or be altered to suit the age or to please people... I will be happy to answer any other question since we are living in times of great deception and the only recourse to safety for our souls is Catholic Tradition and Magisterial teaching and dogma which has overcome many storms. +
Trent is teaching that there is no sacramental baptism without water.
The position that since the Ascension (or whatever you mean by Gospel), sacramental baptism is an absolute necessity to enter Heaven, leads to absurdities such as the idea that pagans bi-located to be sacramentally baptised. Really, this is not Catholic teaching. You say Abel and others have been brought to Heaven because they "saved by being chosen by God to know and obey Him". Well what stops God doing that for anyone.
You also have the absurdity that a person in a 'far off land' could be saved this way by God until the Law of Moses was promulgated, then they have had it. One day they could be saved, the next day they could not, all because 1000s of miles away Moses preached. Was this, supposedly, an immediate worldwide effect?
You quote the Gospel: "...those who believe and are baptised will be saved, those who do no not believe will be condemned." Right! Notice that baptism is not used in the negative scenario. So St Thomas teaches (ask me if you want the reference, but I think it is S.Th.III q.68 a.1-2) that it is by faith in Christ that men are saved, whether they lived before or after He came, whether they heard of Him or not. He is the principal of the natural Law as He is the principal through Whom all Creation was made. So all can know Him who search for truth.
I am sure you mean well. But it sounds like you have taken one line of Scripture (e.g. Jesus to Nicodemus) and you want to pin everything on this, not attempting to harmonise it with everything else in the Bible. What Jesus said is true, of course. But it does not admit a simplistic interpretation. The Church has never, ever taught this notion that without sacramental baptism there is no salvation (not even if you qualify it by adding "after the Gospel" -- whatever that means [is it "after the Gospel" in the Americas in AD 500?])
God bless.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I see some confusion entering into this so I will try to be more specific.
eg. Council of Trent on Baptism:
CANON V.-If any one saith, that baptism is free, that is, not necessary unto salvation: let him be anathema.
CANON II.-If any one saith, that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and, on that account, wrests, to some sort of metaphor, those words of our Lord Jesus Christ: Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost:1 let him be anathema.
Pope Eugene IV Contate Domino Council of Florence, ex cathedra : "The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside of the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives..."
"...no one, even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church."...“Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. Which faith except each one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly…. This is the Catholic Faith, which except a man believe truly and firmly, he cannot be saved.” +
Many treat Thomas Aquinas as dogma. God has not spoken here. Even Thomas is speculating. We don’t know what happens to the unbaptised babies. God loves them and that is all that matters.
They go to limbo
If Rome has its way no one. If the State and Society has its way no one.
The aborted go straight back to God. As they have not been born, they do not need salvation of the living.
So that missionary who bragged that he had never baptized anyone was right?
No no! That's a disaster, when people (especially bishops!) think they do not need to baptise. We must carry out this as best we can. Jesus commanded it. With the sacraments souls can grow much closer to God than without them. The indelible character of Baptism (as also Confirmation and Holy Orders) is a great joy to have in Heaven (and a terrible pain to carry in hell).
But there is a Catholic principle, that man is bound by the Sacraments but God is not. This means we have to strive to do all we can to supply them and receive them in due season. But where we fail to do so, that does not prevent special interventions from God if He chooses to give His graces anyway. He might do this in response to someone's prayers for example, though He is not bound to do so.
And baptism is needful as the beginning of Catholic culture which we all need as persons, families and nations, without which the world sinks into… the mess we have today.
Baptism enables us to worship the Blessed Trinity interiorly, really. It is the beginning of saving grace and enables the growth thereof. To wilfully neglect it is to ask for damnation.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I thought Baptism took away original sin
It does
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I have been shocked to hear that Mother Theresa didn't baptize the dying she cared for.
Father, the inocents are in heaven because they die for Christ but the aborted one's are different. Father Nicholson that use to have a UoiTube channel told in one of his videos that there was an abortionist in Mexico that use to say that he was a saint maker because each baby he kill.
I don't know father
Well, it cannot be automatic that aborted babies go to Heaven. Rather it would be a result of the Church's treasury of graces, a result of prayer.
If we knew all babies went to Heaven, we would not pray for them. If we knew no unbaptised babies went to Heaven, we would not pray for them,
But the Holy Innocents show us that it is possible. These babies did not know what was happening nor why they died, and therefore they could not assent to it with their will (unless God made an extraordinary intervention in each case). Yet God was pleased to bring them to Heaven. Likewise some aborted babies are the victims of satanists. Are these not similar victims?
For the other babies, and stillborns for example, we can pray. If we know something is possible, and good, and we pray for it adequately, will God not answer that prayer optimally? Now if someone prays for those who die before they reach the age of reason, and makes acts of reparation for them, then what is the best reward God can give for these acts of faith and charity? Not only does it bring order to the world but it should have an eternal fruit too. First, it sanctifies that soul who prays, so they will be 'closer' to God in Heaven, but also it could mean that the souls of the babies are saved, and so one would 'meet' them in Heaven. Or one would see that thanks to ones prayers and sacrifices, the population of Heaven is increased. Those 'babies' (now fully grown) would love the person who prayed for them, for they helped win their salvation. And the person who prayed for them would be intensely joyful that they did pray and make acts of reparation. They used their time on earth fruitfully.
So the Mexican abortionist is absolutely wrong. He made no saints. He only murdered and condemned others to hell along with himself. But thanks to the prayers of the faithful, his evil work can be overcome. The souls of the little ones can be saved (again, not automatically; God is not obliged; but He will reward our acts of faith). And even the abortionists own soul can be converted and saved if, say, prayers are offered up for him (though we would think the innocent might receive the graces first).
Sorry for the long answer! You are right that we do not know. This keeps us on our toes. We have to exercise faith and acts of charity, then entrust the rest to God.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM
Oh Rev. Father, thank you so much for taking time to answer me in a such thoroughly way.
God bless you. Keep the good work.
Artificial contraception also causes a baby, fertilized egg, to be to be aborted. Abortion was made legal because of failed contraception.
Fr I love you're work but unfortunately this video seems miss guided. It has been defined by the magisterium of the church countless times definitively and dogmatically that unbaptized infants cannot and do not go to heaven, but do not experience punishment for original sin in limbo. I could give many references for this.
It's also a dogma defined at trent that water baptism is necessary for all men for salvation without exception.
The catholic faith is also necessary for salvation, and it's been dogmatically defined that pagans, Jews, Muslims, protestants and orthodox need to convert and become subject to the pope before their death in order to be saved.
It's also (according to alphonsus ligourie) proximate to heresy to deny that not only most men overall, but most baptized catholics will be damned.
You know very well father from your study of the scriptures that Jesus did not sow false hope, but rather fear of the lord and of judgment unto repentance.
I do not find your teaching in this video very consistent with the gospels, tradition, or the magisterium.
I bought your book though: "adams deep sleep" and am loving it so far.
Maybe.
I'm sorry Father, but you are spreading error. Even you classify it as "speculation" - frankly, you have no business speculating in such a way. I will content myself with a few observations and then have done. More could be said, but I fear I am wasting my time. You're too wrapped-up in your own opinions and you aren't willing to listen to the teaching of the Church, the Fathers, the Doctors, the Councils, even though more people than I have tried to point it out to you.
"Without the Church there is no salvation." - This is a mistranslation and an extremely misleading one at that. Your text on the screen includes the words in brackets "Without (or outside) the Church..." but your voice simply says "Without the Church..." Father, the word "extra" means "outside of", it only means "without" in the old fashioned sense, as in: the opposite of "within." It *does not* mean "without" in the modern sense of the word. And yet it is clear from the context of the video that you are using the word "without" in the latter, modern sense (you say at one point: "had there been not Church, nobody would be saved"). The Latin for "without" used in this sense would be "sine" followed by the Ablative case. But the axiom is not "sine Ecclesia nulla salus."
The Fourth Lateran Council teaches that outside the Church "nullus omnino" - "nobody at all" - is saved. St. Augustine teaches that outside the Church you can have everything else, you can have beautiful liturgies and wonderful preaching, you can have the sacraments, you can faith in the Father and Son and Holy Ghost... the only thing you cannot have, he says, is salvation! I could go on. These sort of statements do not admit of exceptions, and yet most of your video is one long list of imaginary exceptions which you have managed to contrive in your mind. But you have done so without reference to the Fathers of the Church, the Doctors of the Church, the Councils of the Church - without, in short, the teaching of the Church. Likewise, your use of Sacred Scripture here is little better than the "private interpretation" beloved of Protestants (after all, who cares what you or I think this or that passage means - what do the Fathers say it means?)
Noah's Ark. This is a case in point. The Church has always taught that Noah's Ark is a type of the Catholic Church. All the Fathers agree on this. Either you need to rely on a modernist exegesis, where Genesis contains a misleading account of what really happened, or you must concede that every single person not on the ark perished in the flood and only the people on the ark survived the flood. If what you teach were true, then Genesis ought to have told us about all these other people not on the ark who nevertheless didn't perish: perhaps they managed to somehow swim around for forty days until they could walk around on dry land again? But that didn't happen, which is the whole point of the scriptural type. All those not in the ark perished, just as all those not in the Church will perish eternally. You had to be on the ark, just as you have to be in the Church.
Your claim that non-baptised people go to heaven, including non-baptised babies, is also a false teaching, an error, a heresy - I don't really care how it should be classified, the point is it isn't true. And the implications are perverse: if you are right, then Planned Parenthood is busy populating heaven. They're accomplishing a lot of good, albeit unintentionally. Perhaps we shouldn't try quite so hard to shut them down, maybe we could let them carry on a bit longer? It's absurd. The worst thing about abortion is not just that it is murder, although it is; not just the fact that it is the murder of someone totally defenceless, although it is; nor even just that it is t the murder of someone who is wholly innocent and has never done any harm to anyone or committed a single actual sin, although that is true as well. The worst aspect of abortion, what makes it such a terrible crime is that it is a murder which simultaneously deprives that soul of any chance of being baptised. Any "Traditional" Catholic priest worthy of the name ought to realise that.
I'm afraid you need to go back and re-examine your Fraternity of St. Peter seminary training, Father. This is what comes of trying to mix conciliar Vatican II and post- Vatican II teaching with the authentic, traditional teaching of the Church. Benedict XVI's calling Limbo into question was an absolute scandal, on a par with his teaching that the Jews don't need Our Lord because the old Covenant is still in force "for them" (!) or his suggestion that perhaps people with depraved sexual proclivities should be allowed to used condoms. You have somehow swallowed his modernist teaching on that one point (Limbo) and are now spreading this modernism even further afield. If this were a Novus Ordo priest in jeans and T-shirt teaching this nonsense, then doubtless more people would see through it. But because it comes from the mouth of a Traditional-looking priest, it does far greater damage and takes-in far more unsuspecting souls (mostly women, I notice.)
For anyone else reading this, please do a quick internet search and find out what St. Thomas Aquinas, what St. Augustine, St. Gregory the Great and so many others have said about salvation outside the Church. And then read what St. Leonard of Port Maurice says about how few souls make it to heaven.
Dear G, you are confused about what Catholics must hold to be true, what they are permitted to believe is true, and what they may not hold to be true. If you are willing to answer some straightforward questions I think I can demonstrate this. In order to keep things focussed, I will post them one at a time, and let's see how we go.
First of all: do you accept that Abel, Moses and Job are all in Heaven?
Another simple follow up question: as you have more than once mentioned St Leonard of Port Maurice in the context of his homily on "The Fewness of those that are Saved", do you acknowledge that he is not talking about non-Christians, and not about those who die before birth or reaching the age of reason, for he explicitly said in this homily: "Note well that there is no question here of the human race taken as a whole, nor of all Catholics taken without distinction, but only of Catholic adults, who have free choice and are thus capable of cooperating in the great matter of their salvation".
And did you notice I drew attention to this point in the video? That while St Leonard makes very good arguments for us to believe that less Christian adults are saved than damned, he is not talking about abortion, or IVF, or cosmetic industry experiments on embryos etc -- which were not such great themes in the 18th century.
And therefore, no matter how many times you bring him up, it does nothing to touch my case for two thirds of souls being brought to Heaven. Nothing. It is statistically irrelevant.
Do you realise this, or is it hard to understand? If you wish I can break it down a bit more.
Dear Greg, you have also misunderstood the typology of Noah's ark. The Scripture clearly shows us that all those on the ark survived the flood, and all others perished in the flood. This is a type for the Church, showing, as you correctly understand, that there is no salvation outside the Church. But we are not meant to go beyond the typology. We cannot say everyone on the ark actually went to Heaven (that is by no means assured for Cham). Likewise, we cannot say all those who lost their biological life also lost their souls. For God knows how many of them would have been moved by impending and certain death to repent.
It is absolutely unnecessary and extraneous to the typology to draw conclusions about the salvation of that generation. Rather the Scripture is showing us a spiritual reality by means of the historical and biological facts.
If you study typology, you will note St Augustine says Uriah, the heroically virtuous husband of Bathsheba, is a type for the devil -- because King David won his bride from him, as Jesus wins the Church from the grasp of satan. Now St Augustine is certainly NOT saying Uriah is a demon and belongs in hell. Nor is he saying David was Christlike in this the worst sin of his life.
Similarly, some Church Fathers say the lion Samson killed is a type of Christ, and others say the lion is a type of the devil. Both are correct. Typology is multivalent -- it has to be to cover the myriad spiritual realities with limited temporal ones.
The lesson is that we should not go beyond what the type is teaching, as if we then apply the spiritual conclusion to the figures involved.
If you are not convinced, I will post some magisterial quotes which show you that implicit baptism of desire is real, and by it many who drowned in the flood could come to Heaven -- if they were perfectly contrite. This is Church teaching. Or else tell me which of the quotes below you reject.
St Thomas Aquinas, S.Th. III, Q. 68, a. 4., ad.2 As stated above (1, ad 2; 68, 2) man receives the forgiveness of sins before Baptism in so far as he has Baptism of desire, explicitly or implicitly; and yet when he actually receives Baptism, he receives a fuller remission, as to the remission of the entire punishment. So also before Baptism Cornelius and others like him receive grace and virtues through their faith in Christ and their desire for Baptism, implicit or explicit: but afterwards when baptized, they receive a yet greater fullness of grace and virtues. Hence in Psalm 22:2, “He hath brought me up on the water of refreshment,” a gloss says: “He has brought us up by an increase of virtue and good deeds in Baptism.”
Saint Alphonsus Liguori, Moral Theology, Book 6, Section II Baptism of desire is perfect conversion to God by contrition or love of God above all things accompanied by an explicit or implicit desire for true baptism of water, the place of which it takes as to the remission of guilt, but not as to the impression of the [baptismal] character or as to the removal of all debt of punishment.
All saints in Heaven have been baptized, as per Pope Benedict XII
You are not the first in this combox to insist on this. But try reading some of the exchanges. Do you think Abel was baptised? Or Moses? Or David? Do you think Job was baptised, or the Holy Innocents, or the catechumens who were martyred whom the Church teaches are in Heaven? Nobody who insists on sacramental baptism is willing to answer these questions -- except if they resort to patent uncatholic absurdities like:
- they were all raised from the dead and baptised afterwards (honestly, someone said this);
- the good ones after the Crucifixion bi-located to Christian lands where they could be baptised (honestly, that's another one someone wrote).
It is truer and simpler to accept Church teaching that God can give the grace of the Sacrament without requiring the sacramental sign. He is God.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Benedictus Deus
On the Beatific Vision of God
Pope Benedict XII - 1334
Constitution issued by Pope Benedict XII in 1336
"By this Constitution which is to remain in force for ever, we, with apostolic authority, define the following: According to the general disposition of God, the souls of all the saints who departed from this world before the passion of our Lord Jesus Christ and also of the holy apostles, martyrs, confessors, virgins and other faithful who died after receiving the holy baptism of Christ- provided they were not in need of any purification when they died, or will not be in need of any when they die in the future, or else, if they then needed or will need some purification, after they have been purified after death-and again the souls of children who have been reborn by the same baptism of Christ or will be when baptism is conferred on them, if they die before attaining the use of free will: all these souls, immediately (mox) after death and, in the case of those in need of purification, after the purification mentioned above, since the ascension of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ into heaven, already before they take up their bodies again and before the general judgment, have been, are and will be with Christ in heaven, in the heavenly kingdom and paradise, joined to the company of the holy angels. Since the passion and death of the Lord Jesus Christ, these souls have seen and see the divine essense with an intuitive vision and even face to face, without the mediation of any creature by way of object of vision; rather the divine essence immediately manifests itself to them, plainly, clearly and openly, and in this vision they enjoy the divine essence . Moreover, by this vision and enjoyment the souls of those who have already died are truly blessed and have eternal life and rest. Also the souls of those who will die in the future will see the same divine essence and will enjoy it before the general judgment.
Such a vision and enjoyment of the divine essence do away with the acts of faith and hope in these souls, inasmuch as faith and hope are properly theological virtues. And after such intuitive and face-to-face vision and enjoyment has or will have begun for these souls, the same vision and enjoyment has continued and will continue without any interruption and without end until the last Judgment and from then on forever.
(On hell and the general judgment)
Moreover we define that according to the general disposition of God, the souls of those who die in actual mortal sin go down into hell immediately (mox) after death and there suffer the pain of hell. Nevertheless, on the day of judgment all men will appear with their bodies “before the judgment seat of Christ” to give an account of their personal deeds, “so that each one may receive good or evil, according to what he has done in the body” (2 Cor. 5.10)."
He says all the Saints who died before Jesus Christ, and those after him who have been baptized and don't require further purification.
I also don't see the absurdity of the resurrected being baptized since its biblical
Matt 27
52And the graves were opened: and many bodies of the saints that had slept arose, 53And coming out of the tombs after his resurrection, came into the holy city, and appeared to many.
Matt 28
18And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. 19Going therefore, teach ye all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
John 4
1WHEN Jesus therefore understood that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus maketh more disciples, and baptizeth more than John, 2(Though Jesus himself did not baptize, but his disciples,)
Exsul Familia Nazarethana
Apostolic Constitution
Pope Pius XII - 1952
When the priests are absent, what ruin for those who must leave this world either unbaptized or still chained by sin! What sadness for their friends, who will not have them as companions in the repose of eternal life! What grief for all, and whet blasphemy by some, due to the absence of the priest and of his ministry.
According to Jehovah's witness, they claim the number of people going heaven is 140,000
For some reason I'm not getting your notifications
I think that happens for many channels. I don't think it is always sinister. Just glitches in an overwhelmed system.
But if you notice it persists, and yet notifications work for other channels, then maybe let me know, and I'll try to find out if it happens to other people too.
(Otherwise I try to post once a week, usually Fridays.)
God bless.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM it happens to me a lot. I've even seen my comments altered. The system doesn't like certain people and information. Like your channel though. Discovered you through the Fatima center
Most interesting, thank you! I think aborted and miscarried babies don't go straight to Heaven, they should be able to be baptized and to choose Christ. Perhaps in limbo? I do believe poverty can be sanctifying for those outside the Church, but ONLY if accompanied by obeying in a natural way the 10 commandments, even if they don't know of them and living a pious life. Then perhaps these poor people may receive the grace of conversion in their deathbed. God bless!
Right, no one goes to Heaven automatically. But there cannot be any conversion after death. And there cannot be any Sacraments after death. So we pray that souls receive sanctifying grace before they died.
Sorry to disturb you father, but how you assume this number???two thirds in heaven???YOu are very optimistic. So ,God said the way to heaven is narrow , and difficult and a few find it ...Many people will go to wide and broad road...and you said 2/3 in heaven? Or maybe Jesus lied and you speak the truth!??
I presume from your question that you have not watched the video. If you watch it, it will provide an answer.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I watch this video , but not all , because the interpretation of the truth is very simple about the number of people who go to heaven . We can give any answer who please us ,but the truth is very tough : A FEW. Many saints give us a frighteningly small number of people who can be saved. When God flood the earth He find only one man to save , Noe ...and his family for him.Sorry , but your interpretation do not fit .
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Please give me a very short answer : finally , how many do you think will go to heaven?
@@mariotom2484 Well, you said above that you watched part of the video, so you should have heard me say in the first 20 seconds that only God knows how many go to Heaven. But we are permitted to speculate within the parameters of Church teaching (hence the first 20 seconds of the video also cites Apoc 7:9 and Mt 7:13-14). If you want to know what I think, respecting these limits, then you are welcome to watch the video. And if you cannot find the time, then don't worry about it.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM I watched the video till min 17.00.It is not about time ,but this interpretation ( 2 thirds...) contradict the bible.I believe Jesus in every word He said ,because in His great mission I do not think He is joking or lying.So if He said "a few people will go to heaven " , well , this it the truth, not other alternative.
I have a six page transcript of a CZcams talk, "On the Doctrine of Limbo," by an FSSP priest about babies who die without baptism. He cites at least 10 references, including Councils, catechisms, and popes. The command from Pope Sixtus V in 1588 concerning those who carry out abortions or sterilizations is so severe that I can't quote it here but here is part of it. "Who, therefore, would not condemn... the desecration committed by one who has excluded such a soul from the blessed vision of God! Such a person is as responsible as a human being can be for preventing the soul’s attainment of the throne prepared for it in Heaven, and has deprived God of the service of His own creature.”-Pope Sixtus V, Vicar of Christ.
What has the Vicar of Christ told us over and over in this quote? It’s a hard truth, but we have to face up to it. The Holy Father states that abortionists have excluded souls of aborted babies from the Beatific Vision; that abortionists prevent the souls of unbaptized babies from getting the thrones that God had prepared for them in Heaven.
THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS TO ABORTED BABIES!
It’s horrible.
They are perfectly naturally happy, but they are not in Heaven. That’s why all the abortionists are not converting."
Pope Sixtus V was quite right to say that they are condemned who deprive "God of the service of His own creature" (it occurs to me that this includes closing churches when the faithful want to come and worship). To commit abortion is a mortal sin which unrepented leads to hell. If the soul of the aborted baby goes to hell, then the abortionist will suffer eternally that extra insult to God, and insult which is in addition to the mortal sin of murder. But this does not mean all those aborted must go to hell. Our prayers and sacrifices can help bring them to Heaven. The abortionist still suffers hell for his sin if he does not repent.
But I don't think you want that we understand each other's position. I have asked you several times simple questions, most of which you ignore. How can we get anywhere if you repeatedly bash out your position but refuse to answer simple questions?
I'll ask you again: do you believe (I cannot quite tell) that no soul can get to Heaven unless they were sacramentally baptised?
Just answer "yes" or "no" or qualify it however you wish. For example you admitted the OT saints are in Heaven without the sacrament of baptism. That's true. We can pursue the logic of that to see that so are many more. But if you will not tell me your position, then this exchange is just confusion and wearisome.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM You write that I: "repeatedly bash out (my) position but refuse to answer simple questions." Father, I am no theologian so all I say is what I know other official sources have declared as unchangeable Church teaching. I'm sorry if that leaves you confused and weary, please have some empathy for me. I am not eager to launch out into theological questions beyond my capacity. I have read about the controversial topics you wish to discuss. I am not inclined to spar on line with a priest whom I highly admire and respect. I may make comments on your other posts, however. Yes, I have read the books on poor Fr. Feeney whom I consider a dry martyr.
It is not a problem to disagree. But I highly recommend that, unless you can back up your claims, you do not start out with accusing a priest of heresy, of sinning against the "Holy Faith", misleading the faithful etc.
Why not start out just saying, "How can you say X when..." or "I don't see how this can be true..." or "How do you reconcile X with Y..." Then we can have a conversation and you can draw your conclusion and write what you like.
I have heard good things about Fr Feeney but not that he was correct on baptism.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Whenever I read your comments, all the things I could say come flooding into my brain and it really is too much for me to type it all here. I would still like to send you the rest of the paper on Limbo. This morning I read some of our exchange to my husband. Now here is a man who deserves the title of theologian! Every day he spends hours studying theological matters and researching from the Fathers and Doctors of the Church and from many other sources. He grabbed a "Radio Replies" from 1938 which says definitively that "unbaptized babies cannot attain Heaven."#805. And #806 answers questions concerning whether God is being unjust. But he says that you are trying to negate God as Supreme Being by refusing to believe that when God says something, He means exactly that. Oh, there are so many other things that I would like to comment on. It is difficult to stay on topic. "Call off the dogs!" "Nip. nip, nip! You have me twirling about trying to answer to so many different issues. That seems like a dishonest tactic. I certainly could answer (God supporting me), but this is not the proper forum.
The non baptized do not go to Heaven, this is modernist teaching
The Church teaches that God is able to give the grace of the sacrament even though no man perform the sign of it. To reject this is to restrict God. Bad theology.
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM where does one get Sacraments directly from God, except Penance?
does he also give Marriage licenses and Holy Orders?
Holy Innocents
@@ScriptureandTraditionFrJM Trent teaches that the initial grace of the Holy Spirit is Justice, and its not until baptism the Faith Hope and Charity are poured forth and integrated. Without this Perfect Charity there is no Prefect Contrition. Where is this Holy Innocents outlined?
Fidentem Piumque Animum
On the Rosary
Pope Leo XIII - 1896
for, as she is most closely united with Christ she especially wishes and desires that they who have received the same Baptism with Him may be united with Him and with one another in the same faith and perfect charity. So may the sublime mysteries of this same faith by means of the Rosary devotion be more deeply impressed in men’s minds, with the happy result that “we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise.”
Trent Session 6
Of this Justification the causes are these: the final cause indeed is the glory of God and of Jesus Christ, and life everlasting; while the efficient cause is a merciful God who washes and sanctifies gratuitously, signing, and anointing with the holy Spirit of promise, who is the pledge of our inheritance; but the meritorious cause is His most beloved only-begotten, our Lord Jesus Christ, who, when we were enemies, for the exceeding charity wherewith he loved us, merited Justification for us by His most holy Passion on the wood of the cross, and made satisfaction for us unto God the Father; the instrumental cause is the sacrament of baptism, which is the sacrament of faith, without which (faith) no man was ever justified; lastly, the alone formal cause is the justice of God, not that whereby He Himself is just, but that whereby He maketh us just, that, to wit, with which we being endowed by Him, are renewed in the spirit of our mind, and we are not only reputed, but are truly called, and are, just, receiving justice within us, each one according to his own measure, which the Holy Ghost distributes to every one as He wills, and according to each one’s proper disposition and co-operation. For, although no one can be just, but he to whom the merits of the Passion of our Lord Jesus Christ are communicated, yet is this done in the said justification of the impious, when by the merit of that same most holy Passion, the charity of God is poured forth, by the Holy Spirit, in the hearts of those that are justified, and is inherent therein: whence, man, through Jesus Christ, in whom he is ingrafted, receives, in the said justification, together with the remission of sins, all these (gifts) infused at once, faith, hope, and charity.
Trent Session 14
The Synod teaches moreover, that, although it sometimes happen that this contrition is perfect through charity, and reconciles man with God before this sacrament be actually received, the said reconciliation, nevertheless, is not to be ascribed to that contrition, independently of the desire of the sacrament which is included therein. And as to that imperfect contrition, which is called attrition, because that it is commonly conceived either from the consideration of the turpitude of sin, or from the fear of hell and of punishment, It declares that if, with the hope of pardon, it exclude the wish to sin, it not only does not make a man a hypocrite, and a greater sinner, but that it is even a gift of God, and an impulse of the Holy Ghost, -who does not indeed as yet dwell in the penitent, but only moves him, -whereby the penitent being assisted prepares a way for himself unto justice. And although this (attrition) cannot of itself, without the sacrament of penance, conduct the sinner to justification, yet does it dispose him to obtain the grace of God in the sacrament of Penance