Rugby Australia CEO Phil Waugh and Reds coach Les Kiss come in hot on The KOKO Show

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
  • After last week's episode with new Wallabies coach Joe Schmidt, we knew we had to go up a level this week on the KOKO Show and that is exactly what we did.
    On this week's instalment we are joined by the big dog in Rugby Australia's kennel. CEO Phil Waugh stops by to answer all the tough questions about the state of the game in Australia, as well as why Aussie rugby fans should be optimistic moving forward. The KOKO crew covered all the weekend's action from the third round of the ’Superb’ Rugby and we were lucky enough to be joined by the 'Sunshine State’s Sensei’ Queensland Reds head coach Les Kiss.
    For all our Northern Hemisphere Homies we of course have given you a big serving of the Six Nations Summation in the lead up to the final weekend of the tournament. Finally, we leave ye faithful fans with a little yarn as Drew talks about his NYC bust up with a famous American rapper, in a new segment we call ‘Cocoa with KOKO.’
    So sit back, enjoy and let the world of rugby cleanse your dirtiest thoughts, it's time to align your footy chakras with a little dose of Kick Offs and Kick Ons.
    00:00 - WELCOME TO THE SHOW
    01:55 - INTRODUCING PHIL WAUGH
    05:54 - RUGBY AUSTRALIA UPDATE WITH PHIL WAUGH
    16:38 - THE SCHMIDT EFFECT
    19:22 - MELBOURNE REBELS VS RUGBY AUSTRALIA
    21:45 - WHY BECOME CEO?
    23:00 - WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE FOR AUSTRALIAN RUGBY IN THE FUTURE?
    27:00 - FAREWELL TO PHIL WAUGH
    28:25 - 'SWOOP' HAS ARRIVED
    29:21 - SUPER RUGBY WRAP
    39:25 - INTRODUCING LES KISS AND THE REDS SEASON
    46:18 - THE KEY VALUES OF THE QLD REDS
    48:45 - LES KISS’ MESSAGE TO GITS
    49:53 - FRASER MCREIGHT THOUGHTS
    52:31 - JAMES O'CONNOR UPDATE
    54:00 - WHAT TO EXPECT FROM JOE SCHMIDT
    56:05 - SIX NATIONS WRAP UP
    58:55 - SAYING GOODBYE TO LES AND THE NEW MOON
    01:01:08 - SIX NATIONS SUMMATION
    01:10:20 - COCOA WITH KOKO
    01:19:00 - CLOSING THE SHOW
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Komentáře • 108

  • @kickoffsandkickons
    @kickoffsandkickons  Před 3 měsíci +18

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  • @lokdog54
    @lokdog54 Před 3 měsíci +98

    Drew acts like the class clown, all the while actually asking hard and insightful questions to the CEO to hold the organisation to account

    • @juicybombay3534
      @juicybombay3534 Před 3 měsíci

      Can't be all work and no play. It's why Drua Mitchell has always been one of my fav Wallabies next to Gits

  • @kylewestman5400
    @kylewestman5400 Před 3 měsíci +36

    Must be the only pod in the world I listen to within 6 hours of launch

  • @spoofka14
    @spoofka14 Před 3 měsíci +75

    This is what the suits should be doing more of. Waugh did great

    • @OzNick81P
      @OzNick81P Před 3 měsíci +3

      Agree. You build transparency, and hence trust, by being seen

    • @Honest_Max
      @Honest_Max Před 3 měsíci +2

      WTF???? He didn't say anything. What transparency? He ducked every single question.

  • @ultrapilpo
    @ultrapilpo Před 3 měsíci +28

    I'm an Irish fan and want to see AUS back to their best. World rugby needs a strong AUS

    • @mamoersebaas2654
      @mamoersebaas2654 Před 3 měsíci

      😢world.caught up with the Aussie BS .no one cares . certainly if the shoe was on the other foot they wouldn't care .😢For years we had to hear about their propogada.Covid saved us all from the aussies😮😮

  • @Hay_good_lookin
    @Hay_good_lookin Před 3 měsíci +28

    Great pod as always fellas. As an englishman living in Sydney i love taking my sons to the tahs and Australian rugby can easily get back to the glory days. What it needs is fellas like you doing this drawing people back to watching the super games and bringing money back into the game. Then its up to RA not to spunk it against the wall! If the people trust the administration then they wont mind paying the money! Looking forward to the shirts.

    • @letstalk3265
      @letstalk3265 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Classic combination, the Pommies and the Tah's. Two teams the rest of the world never want to see win any sport EVER.

    • @Hay_good_lookin
      @Hay_good_lookin Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@letstalk3265 true! But that's not my problem :)

  • @SeamusDunmaggotin
    @SeamusDunmaggotin Před 3 měsíci +21

    The Fact Gitts got confused between leany forward, and leany back says a lot. Drew mate, good on ya, it's the questions you've been waiting to ask, well done, we rugby fans, all of us, deserve answers to them, tip my hat to ya. I'm keen as for this year, was at an event where Joe was speaking, I came away with the feeling he wasn't about to retire, and there was something he couldn't tell us, nek Minit. Classy games in the Supers, competitive and exciting rugby, the real strength of southern hemisphere rugby is it's speed of play and intensity, and I watched England bump the work rate up against the Irish and force a win, just saying. Is the fact you guys drop just after the Aotearoa rugby pod intentional, or just another sign god is a rugby fan? Thanks team. Still waiting for my shirt.

  • @millas1
    @millas1 Před 3 měsíci +11

    Best rugby show going around boys. Never change

  • @charlottewalsh1030
    @charlottewalsh1030 Před 3 měsíci +13

    Team of the week ! Pllease. Wallabies obviously!

  • @tomgillespie2441
    @tomgillespie2441 Před 3 měsíci +15

    Wake up babe, the new KOKO ep just dropped 🔥

  • @Invictus580
    @Invictus580 Před 3 měsíci +9

    I love this show it makes me excited about everything going on in Aussie rugby. Les Kiss is going to do great things with Reds and hopefully Wallabies when his turn comes along

  • @ljawgtn1393
    @ljawgtn1393 Před 3 měsíci +1

    If you had told me 2 years ago I would be following a Stralya footy show, I wouldn't have believed it! What I like and respect about you guys, is that you can be loose and unorthodox, but still fair, ethical & professional with your comments. Love your work. 🏴 (but love Matt Giteau's mohawk more)

  • @ralphwintle
    @ralphwintle Před 3 měsíci +7

    This is much better than anything on Stan. Keep it up!

  • @rawframeshandcrafted
    @rawframeshandcrafted Před 3 měsíci +9

    I was at Suncorp for the Reds game, first super rugby game watched live! Great stadium and competitive game. One thing I would say about watching live vs watching on the screen at home, not hearing what the ref is saying in the stadium is one thing I believe should change. The ref has such a big influence on the game, like it or not, and for the crowd it's hard to know what is happening, especially if it's happening on the other side of the field from where you're sitting. I think this will bring more people to the stadium as well, hearing the interaction with the refs and players will get the crowd going and more into the action between the obvious tries and big tackles.

    • @michaelcooney7687
      @michaelcooney7687 Před 3 měsíci +2

      I have been to All RWCs since 2003 and back then you could buy at the ground a little radio which broadcast using an earpiece the ability to hear the commentary or Ref or commentator in one ear and Ref in the other..
      NOW… 20 years later AND EVERYBODY HAS A PHONE…. There is zero interest by a tech Co reach into this space… for a fee..
      I’d Definitely pay for this inside running on the field…

  • @gordonross160
    @gordonross160 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I come to you from South Africa, I must say I'm pleased to see Phil Waugh leading the way. I believe with the right people with him he has the ability to get Australia back where they should be in world rugby.
    Go Phil

  • @classicvolvorestorations3848
    @classicvolvorestorations3848 Před 3 měsíci +8

    Great show. Les and Phil were great. 👍

  • @beewalkerqt
    @beewalkerqt Před 3 měsíci +7

    Extra 👍👍 to Drew giving a shoutout to the 50 cap women's sevens legends; love it when he drops that little bit extra rugby knowledge in.
    I believed in Phil Waugh as a player so hopefully he puts RA on a good path. Les Kiss an interesting listen and always keen on the Reds doing well - weird this week with them facing the Rebels and Salakaia-Loto, Daugunu and Tupou; players who did some good things for the Reds.

  • @clubberlang7802
    @clubberlang7802 Před 3 měsíci +7

    Les is a Legend! Up the Reds 🐨

  • @njmayhew
    @njmayhew Před 3 měsíci +1

    OOOOOh my God Drew's story about Busta Rhymes was superb!!!!! Another great show guys. Awesome stuff, keep it going.

  • @goldenchild19
    @goldenchild19 Před 3 měsíci +4

    This show is awesome, great vibes great rugby chat, not afraid to ask hard questions and not PC. Keep this up boys.

  • @Lulu18092010
    @Lulu18092010 Před 3 měsíci

    Best podcast for rugby and laughs!! Thanks so much guys xx

  • @ceiremulligan252
    @ceiremulligan252 Před 3 měsíci

    Just the best. Glad to have you gents back.

  • @mickjames7896
    @mickjames7896 Před 3 měsíci +4

    Hey boys
    Best pod of all rugby pods
    But hey can biv talk us through the 2015 final when bb scored a run away try it might be bit controversial but I know he will like it
    From what I’ve found he was tripped
    Hopefully he can confirm this
    Love the show boys

  • @catherinekavanagh8102
    @catherinekavanagh8102 Před 3 měsíci

    Superb. Irish woman here with a huge interest in all things Aus (also Joe Schmidt) , I'm fascinated to see the state of things over the past 5/6 years and looking forward to see them getting back on track.

  • @michaelcooney7687
    @michaelcooney7687 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Drew COMPLETELY nailed that tough question/comment on how these boys played for free and the SUITS flew 1st class… that is how CLASSY the players are and how CLUELESS and CLASSLESS management were… let’s hope this review reveals a new era…!

    • @SW-rx2pt
      @SW-rx2pt Před 3 měsíci

      $120M spent since 2003

  • @adamstephen442
    @adamstephen442 Před 3 měsíci +1

    That was possibly the best episode yet, thanks lads 👍

  • @vancemcallister9649
    @vancemcallister9649 Před 3 měsíci

    Fml, this is literally the best rugby show on tv. Dudes with rugby knowledge, insightful background information and absolute f’n lad chemistry

  • @matthew-tx6is
    @matthew-tx6is Před 3 měsíci +1

    Coco with KOKO is the new best segment

  • @Knowyourintent
    @Knowyourintent Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love this show. You guys and your guests are awesome.
    Looking forward to an Aussie resurgence.

  • @henroheyneke
    @henroheyneke Před 3 měsíci +10

    Asking the tough questions. Good to see! Excited for the future of Aussie rugby!

  • @samurock100
    @samurock100 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Love watching this podcast. Alot of insights and info. Looking forward to seeing you back on Swoop.

  • @KylaEmily
    @KylaEmily Před 3 měsíci

    love the commitment to drinking empty cocoa mugs, down to the sound effects, hilarious.

  • @usarugbyleagueunionfan
    @usarugbyleagueunionfan Před 3 měsíci

    That’s great Phil came on. That’s shows leadership and confidence. Wish Aus the best. Hopefully, we can turn things around. 🇺🇸🇦🇺🏉

  • @aldoorn
    @aldoorn Před 3 měsíci

    That was an exceptional pod. Great wrap up of everything happening in Aus rugby

  • @jimcorlett
    @jimcorlett Před 3 měsíci

    The show is 🤬🤬🤬🤬brilliant humour and knowledge our beautiful game needs boys keep it up

  • @alanfitz4122
    @alanfitz4122 Před 3 měsíci

    great show guys, enjoy it a lot. Nice to see auzzie rugby starting to come back - a kiwi.

  • @JN-er5yu
    @JN-er5yu Před 3 měsíci

    That's the secret right there boys, giving real questions, getting the real stories and having a laugh along the way!!

  • @Mycloudacoustic
    @Mycloudacoustic Před 3 měsíci +1

    Guys. Get an alcohol sponsor by inventing a Koko Coctail !

  • @a.denley
    @a.denley Před 3 měsíci +1

    Not sure what made me think of this (maybe it was the Waugh Brothers connection and Schmidting it in) but Billy Birmingham would be a classic guest if he’s still kicking around.

  • @callumroles9988
    @callumroles9988 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Favourite time of the week

  • @PJSO
    @PJSO Před 3 měsíci

    I dare say this comparison but Les Kiss talking about the jersey and locker room reminds me so much of Allblack culture. Really has that coaching feeling down pat.

  • @anilthapa-wu1wn
    @anilthapa-wu1wn Před 3 měsíci +3

    This is gold

  • @user-cz9gj9ni9n
    @user-cz9gj9ni9n Před 3 měsíci

    Great Show keeps delivery boys!

  • @JohnHirsch88
    @JohnHirsch88 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Les is a real gent

  • @wildheart5502
    @wildheart5502 Před 3 měsíci

    Great show lads. Best of luck with it.

  • @good_fats
    @good_fats Před 3 měsíci +1

    The more Biv tales I hear the more I think he's not real. What a legend. Take Busta on in the octagon Biv!

  • @Endeavour02
    @Endeavour02 Před 3 měsíci

    Would love to see NZ and Australia back at the top of world rugby.

  • @SittingDucksBand
    @SittingDucksBand Před 3 měsíci

    Glad I've found you guys again! From a pom, you are a lot better than the posh daddy's boys over on the good bad & the ugly. If I could sponsor you I would!

  • @islander_kool_kat
    @islander_kool_kat Před 3 měsíci

    Great pod . When is the merch coming out ?

  • @jules9123
    @jules9123 Před 3 měsíci

    Another great show guys! Wish I had some spare cash to sponsor you but very sadly not. Got my eye in a t-shirt though

  • @OzNick81P
    @OzNick81P Před 3 měsíci +5

    Another scoop gents, well done

  • @My2cents369
    @My2cents369 Před 3 měsíci +1

    What about the grassroots of Rugby in Australia? I would’ve loved to hear more about grassroots and development opportunities through to Super Rugby. I believe this is what Rugby League does better than Union.

  • @spoofka14
    @spoofka14 Před 3 měsíci +6

    Where can we get some Koko shirts?

    • @kickoffsandkickons
      @kickoffsandkickons  Před 3 měsíci +9

      coming soon!

    • @Luraigan
      @Luraigan Před 3 měsíci

      Can't wait.

    • @outiperala7162
      @outiperala7162 Před 3 měsíci

      Please,please,PLEASE make sure they deliver all the way to Finland!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 Love the mood of the show, brings a smile to my face every time. ❤️

  • @SuperNova-Steve
    @SuperNova-Steve Před 3 měsíci

    Good show. I hope you get your 50k subscribers

  • @LucasHainsworth
    @LucasHainsworth Před 3 měsíci

    Great 👍🏻

  • @cyrilkeane7921
    @cyrilkeane7921 Před 3 měsíci

    The way sport shoud be spoken and enjoyed

  • @tomskicomedy2212
    @tomskicomedy2212 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Start a Patreon boys!

  • @Honest_Max
    @Honest_Max Před 3 měsíci +1

    Good questions by Drew - he's proven to be very good at cutting through the noise and nailing the issues that actually matter. I only wish he didn't let Phil Waugh off the hook - I don't think he answered any of the questions; unless one considers chuckling about how tough it is, etc. I'm keen to give him a chance, but he needs to realise that the fans won't cop any more of the corporate yoga babble. His joking about his inexperience in sports administration highlights his abject lack of relevant experience to be a CEO of an organisation that comprises 6 elite professional teams AND a community game of 100,000 people. Is there another sport in the world give such a job to a bloke with a few years experience as an account manager for a bank? Wrexham AFC has a far more experienced management team and they're 4th division! If Rugby Australia was a serious organisation, it would have serious people running the show - Waugh needs to sort himself out very quickly and be that somebody or move along and get a real job.
    Anyway, This is a good show/podcast!

  • @alanoneill3167
    @alanoneill3167 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Good on NordVPN!

  • @tochiazuma28
    @tochiazuma28 Před 3 měsíci

    If there is 15 waugh on the field, the team wins 100%. Then we probably need to find 14 more waugh in the office.

  • @filixt9
    @filixt9 Před 3 měsíci

    Reds Vs FijianDrua SemiFinal 2024!

  • @user-mv8hv7yy3s
    @user-mv8hv7yy3s Před 3 měsíci

    This show is fucking awesome

  • @scootermcgoot
    @scootermcgoot Před 3 měsíci

  • @clarkjmaclean
    @clarkjmaclean Před 3 měsíci +4

    When are you going to chat with Gordon Bray?

    • @islander_kool_kat
      @islander_kool_kat Před 3 měsíci +1

      need him back

    • @thewielloyd988
      @thewielloyd988 Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@islander_kool_katI bet he has no trouble saying Nawaqanitawase. No Marky Mark or “Nawangi Tawase” for him

    • @islander_kool_kat
      @islander_kool_kat Před 3 měsíci

      @@thewielloyd988 😂

  • @DodgeyWizard
    @DodgeyWizard Před 3 měsíci

    hope someone lands a sponsorship soon good luck you poor buggers

  • @OzNick81P
    @OzNick81P Před 3 měsíci

    Drew with the zingers

  • @jimcorlett
    @jimcorlett Před 3 měsíci

    Great podcast again swoop being a horse’s arse 😂🥳🥳🥳

  • @andrewpal4874
    @andrewpal4874 Před 3 měsíci +5

    To get RA's cost/income ratio to say 80% from what now must be well over 100%, should we not hold two Lions tests in Sydney and one in Brisbane (same as in 1989) ... focus on the rugby heartland states and minimise unnecessary logistics costs (to Melbourne or Perth)?

  • @footyfin
    @footyfin Před 3 měsíci +1

    Biv - what's the story with Queenslander Drew choosing Tahs over Reds???????

    • @drewmitchell4188
      @drewmitchell4188 Před 3 měsíci +2

      Maaannnnn!! It’s a tough one but I was born in Liverpool, NSW which makes me sway that way and probably recency bias to be honest..

    • @footyfin
      @footyfin Před 3 měsíci +2

      @@drewmitchell4188 fair enough .... But I'm curious: if state of origin rules applied to rugby - you'd be playing for the maroons right?

    • @Heresacoupleofacres
      @Heresacoupleofacres Před 3 měsíci

      right right right ? lol cringe

  • @adsfisher
    @adsfisher Před 3 měsíci

    Jeez, really nursing that beer Drew

  • @NickBurnham
    @NickBurnham Před 3 měsíci

    Question for Drew, why were you cut from Stan Sports?

  • @alextaylor6793
    @alextaylor6793 Před 3 měsíci

    You guys should hit up manscape for a sponsor

  • @hbyres
    @hbyres Před 3 měsíci

    Where can we buy the t-shirts?

  • @corncakes
    @corncakes Před 3 měsíci

    The biggest thing still holding all aussie clubs back is the ticket pricing. All the pre-season rural matches for the Reds were dope. Also melbourne was a terrible host for super round, crazy small turnouts.

  • @user-ng7ib3br7k
    @user-ng7ib3br7k Před 3 měsíci

    Where do I get some Merch?

  • @kirkclearidge7616
    @kirkclearidge7616 Před 3 měsíci

    Australia are doing really good at the moment in Super Rugby we need a new tactic on how to approach certain areas of our game 😢

  • @ataimd
    @ataimd Před 3 měsíci

    So what happened to the Aussie GBR show?

  • @OzNick81P
    @OzNick81P Před 3 měsíci

    Patreon fellas

  • @footyfin
    @footyfin Před 3 měsíci +1

    Schmidt-hot lads. Interesting to see phil waughhhh (wo wo, what is he good for?!) out of oress conference / buzzword mode. And love what ex Qld origin player Les Kiss has done with the Reds so far! ☝️👌

  • @user-nh1ig6fy9p
    @user-nh1ig6fy9p Před 3 měsíci +1

    I cant understand these guys, concerning Italy, it seams as if their wasnt a rwc where Italy was completly humbled by France and the All Blacks by more than 70 points...

  • @cardmasters7628
    @cardmasters7628 Před 3 měsíci

    Stop calling it Rugby Union, It's just called Rugby! the one the only.

  • @keithdevine8281
    @keithdevine8281 Před 3 měsíci

    Rugby Australia won't improve till they give channel ch9 the flick and get the Shute Shield back on free to air on Saturday Afternoons.Ch9 only cares about rugby greed that's their wild world of sport bread and butter.

  • @nickybutt9733
    @nickybutt9733 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Waugh is a good fella, cares about the game.

  • @trilli7914
    @trilli7914 Před 3 měsíci

    What happened to the good the bad and the ugly