After the hype! Living with the Klipsch RP600M.
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- In this video, I talk about what it's like to live with the popular Klipsch RP600ms and comment on whether or not I still agree with my original review.
#Klipsch #Hornspeakers #ZeroFidelity
Link to my original review of the Klipsch RP600m bookshelf loudspeakers:
• Review! The Klipsch R...
Check out Steves review here:
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I will happily admit I bought a pair of these based solely on Guttenberg’s glowing review. Don’t regret it a bit.
ditto here
Thanks Sean. Glad to hear an audio reviewer I respect struggle with model numbers. I feel slightly less dumb. I don't know how Steve does it. He is amazing. Keep up the good work.
I grew up in the 70s and will never forget the first time I heard Klipsch speakers. I was blown away. I worked several years to be able to buy my own set. In the late 80s I am not sure what happened to them but they disappeared. I bought a cheap set of speakers that were just alright and since I have gotten older don't even have a stereo system. The only times now I listen to music is in the car. Getting older is not a bad thing but things definitely change in your life
Get a pair of KlipschR51M just to make sure that you don't confuse getting old with having a major depressive episode.
You and Steve are very good at these reviews. We need this type of thing so we know what way to go on these things. Good job!
Amazing !! Sean you nailed it .. I'm loving this "After The Hype" series .. I 100% agree to the thoughts you represented over here .. Big Thank You and keep posting !!
Kudos for circling back with these long term reviews.
Glad to hear that you are still enjoying the RP600M's. I feel the same way about the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 speakers I purchased last Black Friday. They are not perfect, but they are great to listen to, and really easy to drive. I have them faced straight out into the room. I use them both for movies, and 2 channel music listening. I am really enjoying the "after the hype" videos.
Which is better for movies?
I’ve been looking forward to this one thanks man
Love this series. In many ways this is the sort of information that I want to know about. More than the initial review. Because when I buy something I will have to live with it.
Between you, Steve and Herb Reichert I'm having a very hard time not buying a pair of these... and I need them like I need another pair of speakers... Thanks a lot! Good company, btw!
I have a pair of Forte III's on the way. I can't wait, super excited!
I had some Epic CF-3's about 19 years ago that I sold. I have had a number of speakers in my setup from Thiel, Martin Logan etc but they all missed that magic the Klipsch used to give me. I can't wait to get horns back in my system.
Thanks for the follow up review.
I was not really into speakers and I was out for a pair of Focal Clear. I came across the Audiophiliac's review, yours, and a few others, so I ended up hitting that infamous next day delivery button. I auditioned it them for 18 hours on a Sunday and missed work on Monday. I was just blown away, I could not stop track after track. It was just the sound signature I was chasing. Then I got greedy (financially irresponsible some would say) and went for the whole cake instead of a slice. I returned the RP600M and ordered the RP8000F and the Yamaha A-S501. I mostly use the Questyle CMA400i in DAC mode for this setup. Five months forward, still a joy to listen to, still no buyer's remorse, still no itch to get the 12th pair of cans , and still nice looking piece of furniture with a traditional Moroccan lantern (modded with an RGB smart bulb) on top of each. I'm only tempted by the Magnapan's LRS, but they are always on back-order and I don't have enough room anyway.
Good update review if I said that correctly. I Just own Klipsch R-15M I use as a "C" pair on my 2 channel Onkyo AV. I have a Klipsch sub I use and have it balanced just right to enhance the bottom end. I'm still enjoying my Elac Debut 6.2 just love those speakers. Never so far get tired listening to them. Keep up the good work my friend.
Yes, please do more "After the Hype" videos.
After several months of living with this speaker, I still love it. I would love to update the amp to a Hegel and see what they can really do.
My rp-600m's are hooked up to a vintage pioneer sx828 and sound fantastic. I do use an old pair of Denon bookshelf speakers connected to the b inputs on the amp, just gives a little more low end, without having to crank the bass dial to high.
Overall really happy with them.
Mine are tied to a Pioneer SX 1010, added a 10 inch powered sub, and have never looked back.
I have the RP600Ms hooked up to a high end 25 W per channel EL34 tube amp and I'm surprised at how good they can sound. They were fine with a far more powerful mass-produced solid state Marantz A/V receiver, but they punch way above their weight with the little tube amp :o) Another satisfied customer after owning them for a couple of years and trying them with a lot of different electronics. I own speakers listing for about 20X the RP600m and I play and listen to a lot of live music, so I know what music is supposed to sound like and I'm very particular. These speakers are "keepers".
I own the competitive Elac Uni-Fi UB5 speakers as well, and they can also shine but only with quite a bit more power. My son uses them to very good effect with an 80 Watt per channel Cambridge CXA81 stereo integrated amp. Happy listening!
i have the model before these the rp-160 and i really enjoy the sound from them. i am no audiophile but i know i like the way they sound especially with rock music. thanks for your reviews keep up the good work.
Hello, thank you for the review! Do you think these can work in the near-field if In case I have a big desk and a tube amp?
love your reviews and vibe.. never end without saying what is better than them for you.. and for what reason.. its a quest hehe
You know what's freaking hilarious? The call at the end of the video was from Steve. I swear he sensed what was going on...
Steve's "horn epiphany" episode prompted me to grab the R-51M's for half price last Fall and I've been luvin' the "emotion" and dynamics they present ever since. :) If I can get the 600's for half price this Fall it will probably be impossible to resist them :/ ...but even with just my $100 Dayton sub, and a Vista Spark, I'm pretty darn happy with just these little guys! :)
@Christos Dimitropoulos A sweetheart. Who he is on camera is who he is off camera.
@@freethot333 I really need to get the Spark back into my life. Glad you're loving the system!
Zero Fidelity Great job and by the way are you going to sell them?
I bought them two weeks ago and I am loving every minute of music since then!
The buzz around the RP600M reminds me of the hype of the Elac Debut a few years ago. Audiophiles and home theater guys almost universally liked them.
Love the review , what stands do you use as the will be going on a desk top
RP 8000F baby! I love me my Klipsch! Seriously, my 8000’s transports me and I can't think of a reason to look at other speakers for a very long time.
I have both the 8000f and the rp600m, 600m are like the baby brother to the 8000's
Hi! Love your videos, I'm pretty new on the audio fidelity stratosphere thus I need to ask your opinion. I've recently bought a cambridge audio CXA81 and I want to pair it with either the KEF LS50 or the Klipsch RP600M. The speakers will be on my computer desk (I have a big desk) with not much space from the wall. Any input on the above is welcome. Thanks in advance.
Looking to get either these or b&w 606 then add their matching speakers to create a 5.1 system. Regardless of price, anyone know if these still sound better than the 606's?
Love these "revisits." Hoping to someday get some heritage Klipsch...Thanks Sean!
Thanks for the video, very informative. What amplifier (500-600 usd price range) do you recommend to go with these speakers?
Hello sean, i wanted to ask you if it is a good improvement moving from the elac debut b5.2 to the klipsch ? I can grab them for an affordable price.
Thanks in advance.
Loving these After The Hype revisits. Another one out of the park Sean!!!!
yes the after the hype reviews are a really good idea. agreed..
Do you use one of those electric shavers with a stubble setting?
Hi, thanks for your reviews, can you tell me what’s this speaker support??
Lol thanks to you and Steve mine's arrived yesterday I love them already
Have used them for a few months now. Best money i have ever spent. Dont see myself upgrading to anything any time soon.
Hi what all kind or speaker stands can i use to put these. Klipsch RP-600m speakers on?
@@adampruitt9211 put them on your head and don't move
Could I please know where I can find that speaker stand?
Will these be a good choice for classical music? If not, what would you recommend? I’m looking for something better than the Polk I’m using now.
I just got the Klipsch RP600M (Piano Black) and I love them! Really great speakers!
Steve’s review sold me on a pair. I have been drooling over them since they were introduced and can finally financially justify buying a pair.
Was it you who said you preferred the SVS Ultras to these? I thought you did a video saying that once but now I cant find it.
Would these be ok in a media wall? Or will the rear port be a deal breaker? If so, what would be a good alternative speaker? Looking to use with turntable and possibly tv.
Thank you for this great video... (I am from a small country in the Balkans, southeastern Europe called Romania). I'm at the beginning of the audiophile road... I need some advice from you if you are kind ... I intend to buy these great speakers (Klipsch RP600M ... and later I intend to buy another pair of Magnepan LRS speakers) and I would like to match them with: A - DENAFRIPS HESTIA (preamp) + HYPERION (poweramp) or B - SCHIIT FREYA + (preamp) + VIDAR (poweramp) ... What advice do you give me ... A or B? Thanks a lot for the advice ...
like your review. question is that an adjustable stand? link or name and if amazon. appreciate it
I use to have a pair of RB 5's that I've missed for some time now. I traded them in for RF 5's, which I still own. These are likely my next Klipsch purchase.
what would you go with ? I was thinking about buying these klipsch speakers but also considering the polk S20.
What are those speaker stands?
These are the best sounding budget bookshelf speakers I’ve ever purchased. I paid $550 at Bestbuy only after watching the reviews. If Steve and Thomas praised the speakers, I bought them. After about a week, the sound warmed right up. I’m powering them with my McIntosh MA252 and MCD7005. Thanks for the review.
Tu Ho
I would have to agree. I have owned them for around 6 months and look forward to
firing them up every day. I don’t see that changing. They are that good.
Yes, absolutely, I definitely enjoyed your video. You produce some of the best, no nonsense videos of the type on CZcams. I purchased these speakers. I was SO looking forward to getting them hooked up and experiencing what both you and Steve had to say about them. Unfortunately, for my room and my ears I really thought the top end was lacking. Seriously lacking. There is no question that Klipsch has done something to the horn tweeter to mitigate some of the objections many had with them. Yours and Steve's reviews notwithstanding, I think they went too far. At least they did for my application. The bottom end integrated perfectly with my sub and I had bass nirvana. Top side was a very different story. They sounded muffled. Who ever heard of a horn being described like that? By the way, as an aside, good luck telling the difference between real wood veneer and the vinyl on these little beauties. Anyway, your review is spot on in my view. Having lived with the Klipsch and the SVS Ultra bookshelves, I'd like to see a joining of the bottom half and cabinet of the RP600M and the top half of the Ultras. I found a bookshelf that produced what a marriage like that would have sounded like but it cost me almost three grand in the process.
B&W?
Bought the RP600Ms two years ago for $400 based on Steve's recommendation. These are great speakers for the money and I have no regrets.
Excellent review!
Another great video. I'm really liking the After The Hype videos. Come on LS50 After The Hype please, please!
Good review. What do you think of the Klipsch R-34C center channel speaker?
I am considering choose one between Whafedale Denton and Klipsch RP600M. I have tube amplifer and prefer to hear soft high, plentiful mid and abundant low sound. In my case, which one do you recommend?
Hello! What would you choose between the Klipsch RP-600M and Mistral LS3 / 5A speakers? For loud volumes I know Klipsch's are better, but wich one do you think sounds more natural?
Any one know what speaker stands these are??
I got RP600M and still loving it.
Hi. What is the stand that speaker is sitting on?
I'm leaning twords getting a pair of these, from my understanding these things if paired with a good sub actually sound like a tower speaker, is that true?
Actually it was Z Reviews that I saw first in all the rave reviews of the RP600M, & Steve was the 2nd or 3rd one I saw. You can thank Klipsch for making a great inexpensive speaker. Steve is the first reviewer I've seen with the Klipsch Cornwall IV, for which he gives a rave review, at $6K a pair. They, Klipsch, took the idea I had a couple years ago taking the Forte III midrange horn & putting it in the Cornwall III, which had a very small horn for a midrange.
I've been waiting for this follow-up video on the Klipsch. I have a very nice Musical Paradise MP-301 integrated tube amp that I heard goes well with these speakers.
I've been concerned about too much brightness with the Klipsch, and it's good to hear that you don't find them to be fatiguing over time and that your impressions haven't changed.
Now to see if I can audition them with my amp.
They can be fatiguing, but the good news is that its easy to manipulate how they load the room, thus giving you a good chance of negating the behavior that many of us associate with listening fatigue.
Great video. Question in your opinion. I’m looking for a speaker for the side surround and back surround ? I have ( all klipsch) rp 504c, r 820s, 2 r 120sw, 1 klipsch 15 subwoofer, and 2 cdt 5800s in the ceiling. I’m looking for something that will fit perfect with this set up. The receiver will be upgraded once all speakers are set up. Any ideas would be great. Thank you
Hi: Do you have a link for the short stand on the bottom of your speakers. I have the exact same pair and would love to purchase a pair of the stands. thank you
Yes please!
Are these good for TV and movies? Also is the bass slow? I listen to a lot of hard rock and metal "I'm a drummer". do the 6 inch woofers have a punchy kick or are the more for hip hop and tech music? With the bass turned down are they good for late night TV?
If you were to put together a simple stereo system for these speakers that wouldn't break the bank too badly but sound awesome, what would you do??? I had a Pioneer rack system years ago that I bought from Sears when all the components use to be sold together as a package but now nobody really does that anymore that I know of and I really don't know what I'm doing. lol I really miss my old rack system and get tired of always putting on headphones or earbuds to listen to music. Any advice would be great... Thanks
Thanks to Steve, I was sitting listening to a Chesky record when this re-review caught my eye.
Somewhere around your first review of another speaker system, I emailed you asking if that speaker pair would be a good match for a large room of mine. You suggested instead these Klipsch's. I bought a pair, hooked them up, and musical life around here has really improved. I've been playing them for many weeks with CD's, vinyl, and a bit of digital. To my taste, they bring out the best in the music. If you have a bad disc or file, they will also front-stage that, too. C'est la vie.
Their sensitivity basically doubles the available acoustic energy from my existing amp. The horn and rear port seem to drive *the room* rather than just *my ears*. The sweet spot is all around the room -- it's just like changing seats in a concert hall. My tastes run to classical symphony orchestras, solo vocal and instrumental music of all ages, acoustic guitar-bass-and drums, jazz ensembles and vocals, and -- classical organ. I use these with a powered subwoofer that woofs to about 25 Hz. It is cut off at about 75 Hz. The subwoofer provides some of the ambience of a concert hall, etc., as well as half of the bottom octave of 32' tone and all of the range of a double bass.
Thanks to the RP600M's, I listen entirely to the music, and I no longer cringe to the damaged music. I forget I'm listening to speakers. Close my eyes and the speakers are almost gone and the musicians remain.
The question remains: Did Klipsch's old witch doctor die and were these from a new witch doctor? Or, did the artists and engineers at Klipsch oust the market spec writers in favor of music? [It's a rhetorical question.]
Thanks for the advice that marshalled me in this direction. I've since bought a second set for another good sized room. One big wet kiss to your ears, Sean. ;)
Are they blue tooth capable?
does a cambridge audio axr100 is a good pairing with them?
I got these after steves recommendation. Picked up a Yamaha a-s1100 used and a Yamaha wxc-50 to stream to. Also got a cheap sub to fill out the bottom. If I want to upgrade anything here it is the sub. The rest is awesome.
Do u think the yamaha s801 would be ok for these + a sub? I just cant get an idea with watching these videos. Some say yamaha and these speakers are a very bad combo...that yamaha and klipsch is generally a bad match. Im not an audiophile...but I want my music to sound good and have an affordable amp that i can add and grow in2.
Great video! Can you let me know who makes these speaker stands?
Thank you for another great video. As an owner of the predecessors, the Kipsch RB61 reference speakers, I was curious if upgrading to the RP600Ms should be on my to do list. Unfortunately a rear port is a deal breaker for my instillation, but I did dig into Klipsch's archives to check out the difference in specifications between these two siblings. According to Klipsch the RP600Ms weigh 16 lbs. the RB61s weigh 22 lbs. Where did the 6 lbs go? This is not insignificant. The new speaker is 27% lighter, but sounds better!? Smaller due to rear port maybe? That means less cabinet volume. Lighter due to thinner box construction perhaps? That's not good for resonance. Lighter due to reduced motor magnet mass or basket strength? Not good things. Guess I'm going to have to hear for myself.
check out new record day's evaluation of the RP600M's and how to upgrade and improve them. they are pretty good out of the box, but as you will see, with 2 simple steps they become SERIOUSLY good. first, he offers a kit for a complete crossover that completely fixes the sound and makes them much flatter. second - as you you mentioned and he also points out - cabinet resonance! and this one can be done cheaply yourself, with some no-rez or similar treatment.
i do have to correct you on your oversimplified view of magnet mass, which is almost completely meaningless (new record day has a video on that too!). see, magnet size is just ONE sub-factor. but alone is means nothing. there are some cheap crappy car sub companies who intentionally use bigger magnets to fool customers into thinking they're getting a better speaker, but then they simply increase the gap (between the magnet and voice coil). smaller gap - stronger magnetic field. also not all magnets are created equal - there are neodymiums, and even just looking at ceramic magnets those are not all created equal either, some are much stronger than others. then on top of all that, there is moving mass. less mass to move means less field strength required. and of course there's voice coil size and number of windings etc. so a smaller magnet doesn't mean jack, it simply could have been re-engineered and even improved with a smaller magnet. less mass, stronger fields, smaller gap, voila. whether or not this applies positively or negatively to the RP600M vs the RB61's I do not know. But I do know an upgraded set would blow either the stock ones, or your older ones, away by a mile. the guys at new record day design crossovers for people on request (only if they can actually measure the speakers themselves) and who knows, perhaps they've already made one for the RB61's, you might ask them. that's an easy and excellent upgrade, because for mass-produced high margin products like Klipsch, they tend to come with absolute CRAP crossovers. watch the RB600M video on their channel and he'll explain why and prove it to you. they cheap out on that stuff big time. Most of the Klipsch range, while it seems expensive to the average person, is nowhere NEAR audiophile level pricies (i.e. ridiculous) that would justify top quality designs and components in either the x-over or cabinet, that's just the way it is. the mfg doubles their money at least, retail is typically doubling their money, then there's shipping costs. the RP600M in his estimation costs no more than 100 dollars in materials, in total, and probably less. that's why DIY is the best, unless you like speakers costing multiple thousands of dollars or more.
and yeah he did show that the woofer uses a cheap thin stamped steel basket... but that can be damped with certain materials to where it's not a major issue either. the magnet is a decent size for the driver, which is small and lightweight.
I love these videos as feelings change over time. I liked my LRS Maggies when I got them but was a little disappointed. Now after 6 months I seem to like them more and more each day. Being a Klipsch fan boy it has taken some getting used to.
It could also be that break-in has improved their sound.
Man i really want to try klipsch bookshelf, which can you recommend me for a desktop set?or a bedroom? Thanks a lot
RP600M or RP150 depending how much space you got and how big your room is.
One thing I would like to know is, how much toe-in you would recommend for these. I usually go with the "point them at a point 1m behind the MLP. Would you agree?
I would agree lol, saw no one answered you.
I've just finished listening for about 8 hrs to my newly arrived PR600Ms. It's being powered by some pretty good stuff......Cal Transport - Denifrips Aries ll - Nelson pass amps-speakers. I didn't get any overly bright sound out of the tweeters. It was smooth. My Coincident Triumph ll speakers had a deeper low end, but the mid and high frequencies were surpassed with the Klipsch. I have a great listening room as well. The speakers are about 4 1/2 ' from the back wall. My room is treated with acoustic panels for the 1st refection point. It sure works for me. I'll be swapping out the amps with a pair of Bottlehead "Paraglow" 2A3 mono blocks tomorrow. The F-5 is pure class A and pumps out 36 watts. The 2A3s will pump out 3 watts!!! Wish me luck.
The JBL 530 is incredibly smooth and well integrated. A very refined choice. But curiously enough, is ignored by reviewers outside of Zeos. Would love a comparison with this RP model, as I have never heard the RP600.
I wonder if it's because the Studio 500 line is kind of ugly, especially with the drivers exposed. But boyyyy, I want to hear them all
JBL tends to engage reviewers with other product lines. The guy who engineered the 530s is no longer with JBL. The cherry vinyl wrapped ones look kinda nice, but only seem to be available in Japanese market.
All I can personally add is I bought the 590's and then the center and these studio speakers are the deal of the century for the sale price. They are that good that I see no need at all for spending more! I keep the grills on but love to see how the 8 inches woofers are recessed in the cabinet for added oomph! That compression driver in this thing is fantastic!🤪🤓🤗
Listening to my 530s right now : P I too am very curious how they stack up against the RP600 (or the RP500).
Can you do a direct compare between r51 against r600 and what that double the price gets you.
Sir how this compare to the cerwin vega sl 8 ?
Anyone tried this pair of speaker connected to the new sonos amp.?
Since they are hitting above the usual batting average, the next question would be the obvious: Buchardt S300?
Should I get these or keep my KEF 101-2s?
What stand is this sitting on? Looks like about the perfect height for what I need in my living room.
Don’t you just love it when they never even take the time to answer a very simple question.
Great review! Interesting thoughts. Thanks. I know that "The Sixes" from Klipsch is an active speaker and different to these ones, but which one would provide the best sound experience between the RP-600M and The Sixes? Can any one help me? Thanks in advance ;)
They’re just OKAY, IMO. I’m returning it. My r51m sounds better in terms of sound quality.
Just got them. Currently only Loxjie wedge amp, but soon will hook them up to a Onkyo A9110. Could you review that? Steve was quite pleased with it, a great value product again.
Anyone here is pairing a Yamaha R-N803/A-S801 with Klipsch RP600M? Do they match well with each other?
801 and 600m make for a great pairing.
I am wondering if the klipsch premier speakers are about to be refreshed. Up here in Canada,
I just purchased two RP-6000f at $349.99 ea from London Drugs. That pretty well sealed the deal for me at that price after spending a month researching sub $2000 pairs.
How are the RP600 compare to the previous model RP160m? According to the specs just slight changes to the twitter? Has anyone listened both?
See my comments.
Just my opnion, though.
Love my 160ms..
I tested them in the shop sounded crap do you think it was the room I tested it in .or with all the rave reviews was I expecting something else .just tested with phone music
Modern Klipsch with the tractrix/titanium horn and improved crossover have really eliminated the old school horn shout and other nasties produced by older models with a phenolic tweeter. They have also nailed it with integration.
Absolutely. I always hated the Klipsch "sound" up until recently. After hearing many of the new RP line as well as the RF7 III, I have completely changed my opinion on Klipsch speakers. They are not the ear bleeders they used to be.
Wish you would take a look at the Klipsch RP800F for comparison. Thanks for a great review.
Just found a pair used from the klipsch amazon warehouse for $350 fingers crossed
Now to find a cheap half decent amp. thinking of going with either:
topping MX3
Sony STDHR190
SMSL AD18 80W2
any other CHEAP amp/receiver recommendations for 600m? Don't need any features just an amp that'll work and do the speakers justice for a few years.
I've had these speakers for more than two years and decided to revisit this video. With the price of the Klipsch RP-600M going up, I've been considering selling these and using the money for something next level (thinking Wharfedale LINTON Heritage). But here is the deal, I'll listen to these with something new and the speakers catch me by surprise just how good they are. Other times I'm in the kitchen and just playing background music from my living room...and the RP-600M will will make me pay attention to the sound coming from them. I think the RP-600Ms are the type of speakers that once you own them, you will regret selling them because somewhere down the road you will want to listen to them again. They're just too unique that even if they no longer become my primary speakers, I'll have a nice place for them in my closet.
Which one should I buy, 600m or 150m?
Would you guys recommend these speakers for rock and metal music? I'm not sure about what speakers to get on this type of music and I may give a shot in the dark
Short answer: Yes.
focal 960's are nice, my dad got some last week. not my style but they seem great for acoustic and classical.
Perhaps the RP500M would be a closer comparison to the R-51M since they are closer in size. What I'd really like is for someone to review the little baby RP400M!
The 500M is closer to the RP-150M.....
Best one yet man!
OK Marantz PM6006 amp...these, or Elac Debut 6.2?? Comments please!!
THANK YOU!!! I watch ur Content but I'm so sick of these and the other handful of bookshelf speakers reviews beat to death. There's so many other brands other than the cool kids
Are these speakers good for movies?
Which speaker has a PERFECT music presentation? What is your choice for the speaker you would want to live with, long term, that's around $550 per pair? (Sorry, I used the word "best" before, which is too general and subjective.)
No audio component I've come across comes close to being perfect. Quite the opposite really. I also don't have a "BEST" for the money. Its all about compromise and electing which compromises you are OK with.
@@ZeroFidelity Which ~$550 per pair speaker would you personally choose to live with, assuming you could only choose one pair.
What samples of warm/full sound amplifiers can niclely match the rp600m?
I have them hooked up to a Muzishare X7 tube amp and they sound amazing.