The CZ75 SP01 Phantom Gen 2 is AWESOME! Especially if the trigger is improved by putting in a 15# hammer spring and extended firing pin and matching firing pin and firing pin block springs. You end up with a very light, fairly compact, 18+1 9mm pistol, with a good DA/SA trigger and very low recoil. The main difference between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 is that the Gen 2 has a more advanced fiberglass type composite, instead of straight thermoplastic.
Last April, I purchased my first pistol and since that time, I have purchased 8 addition pistols. Recently, I've been hearing good thing about CZ and shot the CZ P10 this weekend. I was amazed at the accuracy and how good the trigger felt. CZ will be my next pistol, maybe the P 09 because I like the mag capacity, and I'm a lefty so the ambidextrous controls will be great.
I just picked up some factory 21 round mags for $35 ea. Considering the +2 extension is about $15, I'd say you just didn't wait long enough for the market to catch up to a new gun.
Great honest review! Appreciate your honesty here. I love the looks of the Phantom, but have a P09 and love it. I also have a SP-01 Tactical and also love that pistol. However, the grip is a tad small on the SP-01 Tactical. I really wish it used the same mags as the P09, because they are slightly wider which also makes the grip a little bigger and fits my hand better. Something no one ever mentions here. Why did CZ not use the same magazines in all of their 9mm pistols. That would have only made sense. A gross misnomer on their part. The 19 rounders in the P09 are great and you can upgrade to true CZ made 21 round mags as well. I use the 21 rounders and they run flawlessly. Back to the grip of the P09, I put talon grip tape on it and made a world of difference. Love that stuff and have that on all of my pistols. Really hard to go wrong with any CZ pistol, but I agree they hit it out of the park with the P09. Perfect range gun that I'd compete with if I had to and also a great home defense gun. Easy to point and shoot and extremely manageable. Very little felt recoil, so it is quick to get back on target. If I ever run across a Phantom, I might just buy one and give it a try as well. Its CZ, so I'm sure it will be excellent..
just the video i was looking for! thanks so much! definitely helped me with my decision between these two firearms...you have a very good approach to comparing/reviewing guns... short, sweet, and to the point... next I have to decide between the p07 in .40 and the P06
I always have at least one Phantom in stock. Such a handsome cold war era pistol. If CZ would make an optics ready version of the P07/09, it would be perfect.
I'm so glad they brought back the Phantom. I have the P-09 and am getting the Phantom in a few months when there are on sale for either Labor Day or Veterans Day.
Picked up a NIB Phantom for $490 (Background check and transfer fee included) just the other day and I love it. But I'm probably going to pick up a P-09 as well and see which one I prefer. Thanks for the video.
The old phantom had problems with the lower composite which was the reason it was discontinued. The newer phantom now uses the same composite as the p09 so I guess the P09 was built better
The Phantom is back in production and at a cheaper price. You can find them for $529 in a lot of places. I think the SP01 line of the 75 pistols are some of CZ’s best. Except the Phantom is much lighter than the original SP01.
I have the CZ p-10F, which is very comparable to the P-09 in size, weight and capacity. I know that my pistol wasn’t available at the time when this vid was made, but I think it would be a great modern comparison with these two terrific guns. The P-10F would be the striker fire representative in this size CZ.
Just did a 14lb main spring and a rami firing pin spring from czcustoms and I clipped the pin block spring about 3/16 Awesome result in da/sa pull improvement for maybe $12 Dropped same springs in my p120 as well but clipped them to factory length and shortened the pin block spring as well, resulting in a super nice trigger for dirt cheap
Specifically: The SP-01 is heavier and cannot be changed to decocker. Plus trigger and sight upgrades are available for both, but the P-01 is the newer design. I have not see/shot one yet, but P-09 is looking really good right now.
You didn't demonstrate the trigger reset or trigger pull lbs. measurement. I'm greedy and have the P-09 Suppressor Ready & P-07 Suppressor Ready. 2 bowls of ice cream is better than 1 An interesting comparison would be P-09 vs VP9 vs PDP Full Size
I know this is an old video; but THANK YOU, for doing this comparison. I just bought a Phantom, and I love it. I am contemplating buying a second one; because I found one at a local shop for a ridiculously low price. I've been hearing good things about the P09; so I was debating whether or not to get one of those, instead of a second Phantom. This video was very helpful in helping my decision. Also, is the magazine release on the Phantom reversible? I'm right-handed; but I'm thinking about giving one of my Phantoms to my left-handed son, and buying a P09. That way, I can justify buying both guns.
I’ve owned and carried a few different CZ’s. I’d love to pick up a reasonably priced Phantom, but I’ve only seen one in person and I live not far from CZ USA. It would be nice to have 98% of my SP-01 Shadow’s capabilities in something that’s ~30% lighter. I’m still sad they never made a Phantom with a manual safety.
i bought the ultra-lite defense kit from canjun gun works for my cz phantom.... but i was planing to swap the 13#ms with a 15# and have an 14# rs and ss guide rod... I wanted mine to be able to shoot hard primers
I just picked up a new SP-01 Phantom and its dated 2016 and comes in the new style case. I thought they were discontinued as well and thought I was buying new "old" stock but it appears the Phantom is alive and well. CZ makes no mention of the Phantom on their websites. My new Phantom is a 2016!
+Creeping Death I just started seeing them available again at dealers in the last month. Glad CZ brought them back to our shores and congrats on the new purchase! :-)
Oh thank god... I about had a mini heart attack when he said they were discontinued, I really want one just don't have the cash yet... thinking I'll sell my TP9SA to get a nice chunk of what I need towards it. now just need to find someone to buy my gun lol...
Great review, man! I'm sure many of us would like to know how these two are holding up two years later? And which upgrades exactly have you done? Don't spare the details, please. I hope you still shoot them in 2017?
No Names Thank you very much, glad you liked it. Both are holding up very well, actually took the P-09 to the the range this morning and put another couple hundred rounds through it. I now favor the P-09 more, it has really broken in well and it shoots so well for me. I still shoot the Phantom just not as often but it is still running strong. will probably replace the recoil springs in both over the next 1K rounds or so. Even contemplating sending the P-09 to cajun gun works and have them work it over.
Nice video. I have a P-09 FDE Tactical and love it. I pick up my new SP-01 Phantom next week, and can't wait... I have always wanted one. I could not find one before they stopped making them in 2013, or after that for a good price used. I am happy to say, CZ starting making them again this year!
Lbsthapink I have largish hands I wear large glove sizes. Is the P-09 dimension from backstrap to trigger too small for people with larger hands? Ive held a pew guns where the trigger breaks too far back for my big fingers to feel comfortable.
SOA420 DAD69 I’ve got mutant hands. I wear medium gloves, but I have the largest backstrap on my P-09 because I like how it feels, and the way it positions my finger on the trigger.
I want to buy a P01 or p07 for carry and I'm thinking about trading some guns in on one of these to go with it so I'm basically trading two guns I don't like for two CZ's that I love I just can't decide between these two.. or just getting a P01 and p07 instead of one of these
Hello. I want to buy CZ, I have a choice what to buy. Which advise me; cz 75 sp-01 tactical, cz 75 sp-01 shadow or sp-09? With what will be less problems. Thanks
алексей м You should be gtg with any of those. Just don't get a P10c yet, seems they need to work out the bugs on that one as there are lots of issues reported by people who bought them.
the sp01 phantom is no longer a model being imported to the US. I contacted CZ directly to get one ordered or imported and they told me they are no longer making them for the US market. So if you can grab one, DO IT!!!
I have seen the same thing, but no news on the phantom coming back. I emailed cz directly about it and they said it wouldn't be in the us market anymore. so unless they are keeping it 100% secret, the phantom will not be introduced.
I use the largest back strap on my Gen 2 P07 and I'm going to bet when I get the P09 I would do the same. For me with medium size hands it gives me as close to the original design feel. Is it as good as the Phantom and other traditional CZ's... No, but it is very close.
problem for me is the ergonomics are the biggest reason to get the CZ, the phantom fits like a glove, the p-09 just seems like a quality generic gun. I'd rather the get the vp9 if the phantom is off the market.
Love the CZ but as long as I am in my 15rd restricted state….I am not waisting my time on any more CZs. It’s crazy because no matter the model I have(except for the P-09/P-07/P-10F) every single company even CZ themselves doesn’t have any 15rd magazines in stock. Haven’t for the last 3 years. Idk how come they aren’t jumping on this making it a priority to make 15rd magazines because a lot of states are going to go to 10-15rd max capacity magazine laws. You spend good money and get 2 stinking 10 round full size magazine. Spend $40 on a +5 base plate and spring to convert your 10rd mags to 15. Love the firearms but this lame state is causing me to miss out. My P-07 and P-09 are the only ones I’ll carry concealed. All the others are safe queens until I move because this ban isn’t going anywhere and $100 to get 3 +5 base plates? Can’t do it.
The CZ75 SP01 Phantom Gen 2 is AWESOME! Especially if the trigger is improved by putting in a 15# hammer spring and extended firing pin and matching firing pin and firing pin block springs. You end up with a very light, fairly compact, 18+1 9mm pistol, with a good DA/SA trigger and very low recoil. The main difference between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 is that the Gen 2 has a more advanced fiberglass type composite, instead of straight thermoplastic.
Last April, I purchased my first pistol and since that time, I have purchased 8 addition pistols. Recently, I've been hearing good thing about CZ and shot the CZ P10 this weekend. I was amazed at the accuracy and how good the trigger felt. CZ will be my next pistol, maybe the P 09 because I like the mag capacity, and I'm a lefty so the ambidextrous controls will be great.
The SP-01 Phantom is significantly cheaper when you consider the Mec-Gar CZ-75 magazines are 20-26 dollars and the P-09 mags are 45-50 dollars.
The exact reason I sold my p09.
I just picked up some factory 21 round mags for $35 ea. Considering the +2 extension is about $15, I'd say you just didn't wait long enough for the market to catch up to a new gun.
This video was made awhile ago. Currently, the P-09 can be had for less than $500. The Phantoms are all over $800.
Phantom is back, at least in Czech Republic - just bought one last week and CZ shops got them stocked in here ... :-)
t4t4s0l it was only pulled because the Czech military needed all of them when they adopted the gun as the primary side arm for the armed forces
got the P09 a month ago and love it . great video dude!
I love how the P07 & P09 look!
Got both. They're awesome weapons. I've put cajun parts in both. The most important part to replace is the trigger return spring.
Main spring is the most significant change
Yeah they're probably the best value under 1000 and maybe at any price if you ask a lot of guys like myself
i prefer the sp-01
I have just jumped into the cz world and bought a sp01 tactical loved it so much, ordered another cz p09 urban grey suppressor ready. Super excited.
I just bought a Phantom from Buds Guns for 464 USD this date.
Great honest review! Appreciate your honesty here. I love the looks of the Phantom, but have a P09 and love it. I also have a SP-01 Tactical and also love that pistol. However, the grip is a tad small on the SP-01 Tactical. I really wish it used the same mags as the P09, because they are slightly wider which also makes the grip a little bigger and fits my hand better. Something no one ever mentions here. Why did CZ not use the same magazines in all of their 9mm pistols. That would have only made sense. A gross misnomer on their part. The 19 rounders in the P09 are great and you can upgrade to true CZ made 21 round mags as well. I use the 21 rounders and they run flawlessly. Back to the grip of the P09, I put talon grip tape on it and made a world of difference. Love that stuff and have that on all of my pistols. Really hard to go wrong with any CZ pistol, but I agree they hit it out of the park with the P09. Perfect range gun that I'd compete with if I had to and also a great home defense gun. Easy to point and shoot and extremely manageable. Very little felt recoil, so it is quick to get back on target. If I ever run across a Phantom, I might just buy one and give it a try as well. Its CZ, so I'm sure it will be excellent..
I just got the sp01 tactical...cant wait to upgrade it and have it as my do all piece
just the video i was looking for! thanks so much! definitely helped me with my decision between these two firearms...you have a very good approach to comparing/reviewing guns... short, sweet, and to the point... next I have to decide between the p07 in .40 and the P06
+Vic Grappone Glad the video helped! You really can't go wrong with either the P-07 or the P-06!
Thanks for the review, I agree CZ has made enough changes to the PO9 that make it a bit better. But nostalgia is a hell of a drug
I always have at least one Phantom in stock. Such a handsome cold war era pistol. If CZ would make an optics ready version of the P07/09, it would be perfect.
Good comparison and break down, thumbs up.
I'm so glad they brought back the Phantom. I have the P-09 and am getting the Phantom in a few months when there are on sale for either Labor Day or Veterans Day.
The Gen 2 phantoms are pretty scarce, but they are great!
Phantom is such a beautiful gun.
Picked up a NIB Phantom for $490 (Background check and transfer fee included) just the other day and I love it. But I'm probably going to pick up a P-09 as well and see which one I prefer.
Thanks for the video.
Good comp review. I just picked up P 09..Quality Shooter.
B Cuz super quality
picked up a p09 week ago and love the way it shoots. its sat my hk vp9 down for a bit.
The old phantom had problems with the lower composite which was the reason it was discontinued. The newer phantom now uses the same composite as the p09 so I guess the P09 was built better
The Phantom is back in production and at a cheaper price. You can find them for $529 in a lot of places. I think the SP01 line of the 75 pistols are some of CZ’s best. Except the Phantom is much lighter than the original SP01.
I have the CZ p-10F, which is very comparable to the P-09 in size, weight and capacity. I know that my pistol wasn’t available at the time when this vid was made, but I think it would be a great modern comparison with these two terrific guns. The P-10F would be the striker fire representative in this size CZ.
I have p09, I have p10c. but I saw a phantom at gun shop for 580 ...I'm going back to buy. Once you get CZ bug baby I just can't help myself.lol
Just did a 14lb main spring and a rami firing pin spring from czcustoms and I clipped the pin block spring about 3/16
Awesome result in da/sa pull improvement for maybe $12
Dropped same springs in my p120 as well but clipped them to factory length and shortened the pin block spring as well, resulting in a super nice trigger for dirt cheap
I love my CZ P-07, when I seen the P-09 for sale on-line over the weekend for $383 I jumped on the deal
You paid way too much...they are going for $325
@@joelrausch4824.... At the time $383 was a good price .... Clue: this comment is over a year old.
I love my p09 and p07, but still ended up getting a p120 sp01 clone... I guess it's just the more original 1911 esque design they're all fantastic tho
The phantom gets the added benefit of being a cz 75. It adopts the history.
I have the P09 in. 40 cal. Got it for $380. Also have P75b. Ordered the Sp01 tac on layaway. Want the phantom in all steel.
Big TU, your video helped me out a lot! Thanks.
Glad it helped!
Specifically: The SP-01 is heavier and cannot be changed to decocker. Plus trigger and sight upgrades are available for both, but the P-01 is the newer design. I have not see/shot one yet, but P-09 is looking really good right now.
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Great comparison
Thank you for the review! Which has better recoil characteristics? Felt recoil? Muzzle flip? Time to follow up shots?
You didn't demonstrate the trigger reset or trigger pull lbs. measurement. I'm greedy and have the P-09 Suppressor Ready & P-07 Suppressor Ready.
2 bowls of ice cream is better than 1
An interesting comparison would be P-09 vs VP9 vs PDP Full Size
If they don't release a phantom 2 that's really just an rmr ready p07&p09 then my life will never be complete.
I know this is an old video; but THANK YOU, for doing this comparison. I just bought a Phantom, and I love it. I am contemplating buying a second one; because I found one at a local shop for a ridiculously low price. I've been hearing good things about the P09; so I was debating whether or not to get one of those, instead of a second Phantom. This video was very helpful in helping my decision. Also, is the magazine release on the Phantom reversible? I'm right-handed; but I'm thinking about giving one of my Phantoms to my left-handed son, and buying a P09. That way, I can justify buying both guns.
I’ve owned and carried a few different CZ’s. I’d love to pick up a reasonably priced Phantom, but I’ve only seen one in person and I live not far from CZ USA. It would be nice to have 98% of my SP-01 Shadow’s capabilities in something that’s ~30% lighter. I’m still sad they never made a Phantom with a manual safety.
Does the Phantom have internal slide rails like the alloy frame counterpart because the PO 9 does not have full rail?
Wow! Like em both!
+Gun Collector007 So do I :-)
The Phantom is back! Just bought one last week
The grip on the Phantom looks way better than the P-09.
Plenty of on-line stores selling the Phantom for $410 to $450 right now.
Dahlonega Armory 👍🏻
i have both and like phantom more for look and feel in the hand
i bought the ultra-lite defense kit from canjun gun works for my cz phantom.... but i was planing to swap the 13#ms with a 15# and have an 14# rs and ss guide rod... I wanted mine to be able to shoot hard primers
CZ 100 and 110 are their first polymer and are striker fired.
I just picked up a new SP-01 Phantom and its dated 2016 and comes in the new style case. I thought they were discontinued as well and thought I was buying new "old" stock but it appears the Phantom is alive and well. CZ makes no mention of the Phantom on their websites. My new Phantom is a 2016!
+Creeping Death I just started seeing them available again at dealers in the last month. Glad CZ brought them back to our shores and congrats on the new purchase! :-)
Oh thank god... I about had a mini heart attack when he said they were discontinued, I really want one just don't have the cash yet... thinking I'll sell my TP9SA to get a nice chunk of what I need towards it. now just need to find someone to buy my gun lol...
Great review, man!
I'm sure many of us would like to know how these two are holding up two years later? And which upgrades exactly have you done? Don't spare the details, please. I hope you still shoot them in 2017?
No Names Thank you very much, glad you liked it. Both are holding up very well, actually took the P-09 to the the range this morning and put another couple hundred rounds through it. I now favor the P-09 more, it has really broken in well and it shoots so well for me. I still shoot the Phantom just not as often but it is still running strong. will probably replace the recoil springs in both over the next 1K rounds or so. Even contemplating sending the P-09 to cajun gun works and have them work it over.
i was not looking at value for money i wanted to know witch is the better gun.
Deguns have them in stock,discounted at $437 with coupon code.
Is there a 40 cal conversation kit for the CZ p09 9mm
I bought a 2 pack of CZ branded polymer mag extensions that come on the suppressor ready model for $8.95! Hello 21 round mags!
Nice video. I have a P-09 FDE Tactical and love it. I pick up my new SP-01 Phantom next week, and can't wait... I have always wanted one. I could not find one before they stopped making them in 2013, or after that for a good price used. I am happy to say, CZ starting making them again this year!
+G.QUEST-AZ I just saw that a few shops were stocking them again, congrats on the new CZ!
which is better?
Mackenzie McIntosh Not sure... I love both, but the P-09 FDE comes with night sights, and the Omega trigger system is a little smother, just barely...
Does the P09 fit a safariland SLS or ALS holster made for another pistol?
I chose the P09 because my short finger reaches the trigger better.
Lbsthapink I have largish hands I wear large glove sizes. Is the P-09 dimension from backstrap to trigger too small for people with larger hands? Ive held a pew guns where the trigger breaks too far back for my big fingers to feel comfortable.
SOA420 DAD69 I’ve got mutant hands. I wear medium gloves, but I have the largest backstrap on my P-09 because I like how it feels, and the way it positions my finger on the trigger.
is the phantom still nato approved?like the sp01
What Cajun parts did you put in the phantom ?
The Ultra-lite kit. Made quite a bit of difference and definitely worth the money.
Nice linoleum!
Jonatan Steven are you talking about the copper top on my table?
The slides are different on the sp 01 steel frame and the phantom.
I want to buy a P01 or p07 for carry and I'm thinking about trading some guns in on one of these to go with it so I'm basically trading two guns I don't like for two CZ's that I love I just can't decide between these two.. or just getting a P01 and p07 instead of one of these
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Hello. I want to buy CZ, I have a choice what to buy. Which advise me; cz 75 sp-01 tactical, cz 75 sp-01 shadow or sp-09? With what will be less problems. Thanks
алексей м You should be gtg with any of those. Just don't get a P10c yet, seems they need to work out the bugs on that one as there are lots of issues reported by people who bought them.
Hello there! So what did you get at the end? I have the same question
cool Tom Likey
the sp01 phantom is no longer a model being imported to the US. I contacted CZ directly to get one ordered or imported and they told me they are no longer making them for the US market. So if you can grab one, DO IT!!!
Chris Schurter :-(
I saw a report that 2017 CZ will be reintroducing the Sp01 again but with new redesigns.
I have seen the same thing, but no news on the phantom coming back. I emailed cz directly about it and they said it wouldn't be in the us market anymore. so unless they are keeping it 100% secret, the phantom will not be introduced.
+Chris Schurter you can thank me. Check out their 2017 catalog. The Phantom is back.
Chekss and slovaks are smart. Also not so much so when it comes to something productive and helpful for UN
Just bought a CZ PO9 who makes a good holster for them?
Doel Gutierrez. Try Redhill tactical...
Shook's Customs can hook you up
Hogue. Great Active retention
Yea i got my P-09 with a threaded barrel at 494$
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Aj Hatch Canton OH area. they had a sale i jumped on
Daniel Kagarise nice!!!
I just bought a CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom for 392.00 USD brand new.
Where???????
That’s a great deal.
I bought my P-09 a 3 years ago for $400.
CZ’s are great pistols
I use the largest back strap on my Gen 2 P07 and I'm going to bet when I get the P09 I would do the same. For me with medium size hands it gives me as close to the original design feel. Is it as good as the Phantom and other traditional CZ's... No, but it is very close.
problem for me is the ergonomics are the biggest reason to get the CZ, the phantom fits like a glove, the p-09 just seems like a quality generic gun. I'd rather the get the vp9 if the phantom is off the market.
I envy what American's pay for handguns. We pay upto, double your price in Canada.
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Love the CZ but as long as I am in my 15rd restricted state….I am not waisting my time on any more CZs. It’s crazy because no matter the model I have(except for the P-09/P-07/P-10F) every single company even CZ themselves doesn’t have any 15rd magazines in stock. Haven’t for the last 3 years. Idk how come they aren’t jumping on this making it a priority to make 15rd magazines because a lot of states are going to go to 10-15rd max capacity magazine laws. You spend good money and get 2 stinking 10 round full size magazine. Spend $40 on a +5 base plate and spring to convert your 10rd mags to 15. Love the firearms but this lame state is causing me to miss out. My P-07 and P-09 are the only ones I’ll carry concealed. All the others are safe queens until I move because this ban isn’t going anywhere and $100 to get 3 +5 base plates? Can’t do it.
Does the p09 mag fit into the sp01?
+z28camarobc It doesn't, it is too wide to fit the magwell.