Wow! I knew they were slow but without the 3-400lbs of (trucker) gear that I keep in my xB, it actually feels quicker to 60. Either way, at 297K, it makes me grin on every drive, especially when the road gets twisty. Also, when I unpack it, I can easily get 40mpg @65mph. This might be my favorite of the small cars I've ever owned.
@scionnn that gives me hope. Is yours a three-pedal? All original drivetrain? Mine is and just rolled 300K, and the gearbox really wants to leave the chat. It gave up 3rd synchro right after I got it in '21, so I pulled one from a wreck at LKQ late that year. Guess it's finally time to grab axles and ball joints since I have all the seals, flywheel, and clutch set.
@@A_Cowboy_called_JackRabbit my 2005 is manual. My 06 is auto, drivetrain replaced twice, first ine gave up 5 yrs ago. Original gaskets, engine, transmission, etc. Just replaced a few days ago the original vvt solenoid.
Manual makes all the difference. The Scion automatic is the exact same ratios for the Echo, Scion's, and even the Yaris all the way to the end of the 1NZ-FE range-- and the xB was the heaviest. The manuals, however, the xB had a 4.3:1 final drive, while the Echo was a 3.53:1. Same ratios (albeit a C150 not a C50), but the final drive changed the character immensely, shifting to third around 55mph rather than 63mph in an Echo... but what it also meant is an xB or xA is running 4,100rpm or so at 80mph instead of the Echo's 3,300rpm.
@hduncan2587 I appreciate the info! Your mention of the final drive difference just reminded me. A lot of guys talk about switching 5th to the Corolla ratio. On paper, relaxed revs at speed sound good, but with such a tiny engine pushing so much face to the wind... Imean, I can clutch in on any grade of downhill, and she will lose speed, which could be all because my gearbox is trash. Anyway, I have a suspicion that if I was to swap to that cog in the "new" box, I would just wind up shifting more at lower highway speeds. That 1NZ is just not designed to do much down low, you know? Also, I switched to a set of 16x7 Drag alloys that weigh around 13lbs each with 205/50 Falken rubber, also one of the lightest I could find. This might be most of the reason it feels so lively, even with all my junk in the back.
If the second generation Scion xB was given the 180hp 2.5 engine from the tC - Scion would still be around. And bump the tC up to 200hp. Too bad Toyota doesn't like speed. ( and don't give me that re-brand BMW Supra either as an excuse )
@scionnn "If the second generation xB WAS GIVEN the 2.5 Thank you I knew that already. So I say again, 2nd Gen xB 180hp instead of 158? Would still be around.
@@oreally8605 The tC is known to be a sporty coupe, while the xB is known for bring a good gas saver. Yes your right, they shouldve added a 180 hp engine, but the xB is a gas saver. Though they couldve saved it if they added a bigger engine option, but its a Scion, Scion only had one trim level, and a lot of options, known as accessories, like certified after market subs, speakers, etc.
I have a 2004 Scion xB 297k miles but runs and drives like new
Very awesome car and engine. Small cars are gone from Toyota.
Nice
I just bought a 2004 xB manual. Hope to drive it for many many years
@@holdencawffle626I had no idea the XB came in a manual! That’s awesome. Good luck but check the oil often.
@williamperri3437 it doesn't have oil consumption issues. Only the 2008-2011 second Gen did. 😊
my 06 has 431k miles
Wow! I knew they were slow but without the 3-400lbs of (trucker) gear that I keep in my xB, it actually feels quicker to 60. Either way, at 297K, it makes me grin on every drive, especially when the road gets twisty. Also, when I unpack it, I can easily get 40mpg @65mph. This might be my favorite of the small cars I've ever owned.
my 06 has 431k miles
@scionnn that gives me hope. Is yours a three-pedal? All original drivetrain? Mine is and just rolled 300K, and the gearbox really wants to leave the chat. It gave up 3rd synchro right after I got it in '21, so I pulled one from a wreck at LKQ late that year. Guess it's finally time to grab axles and ball joints since I have all the seals, flywheel, and clutch set.
@@A_Cowboy_called_JackRabbit my 2005 is manual. My 06 is auto, drivetrain replaced twice, first ine gave up 5 yrs ago. Original gaskets, engine, transmission, etc. Just replaced a few days ago the original vvt solenoid.
Manual makes all the difference. The Scion automatic is the exact same ratios for the Echo, Scion's, and even the Yaris all the way to the end of the 1NZ-FE range-- and the xB was the heaviest. The manuals, however, the xB had a 4.3:1 final drive, while the Echo was a 3.53:1. Same ratios (albeit a C150 not a C50), but the final drive changed the character immensely, shifting to third around 55mph rather than 63mph in an Echo... but what it also meant is an xB or xA is running 4,100rpm or so at 80mph instead of the Echo's 3,300rpm.
@hduncan2587 I appreciate the info! Your mention of the final drive difference just reminded me. A lot of guys talk about switching 5th to the Corolla ratio. On paper, relaxed revs at speed sound good, but with such a tiny engine pushing so much face to the wind... Imean, I can clutch in on any grade of downhill, and she will lose speed, which could be all because my gearbox is trash. Anyway, I have a suspicion that if I was to swap to that cog in the "new" box, I would just wind up shifting more at lower highway speeds. That 1NZ is just not designed to do much down low, you know? Also, I switched to a set of 16x7 Drag alloys that weigh around 13lbs each with 205/50 Falken rubber, also one of the lightest I could find. This might be most of the reason it feels so lively, even with all my junk in the back.
Currently in Canada, the Xb is more than a Lexus Es or Camry
If the second generation Scion xB was given the 180hp 2.5 engine from the tC - Scion would still be around. And bump the tC up to 200hp. Too bad Toyota doesn't like speed. ( and don't give me that re-brand BMW Supra either as an excuse )
No, the 2nd gen xB has a 2.4L 2AZ-FE. and only the first generation Scion tC has the 2.4l. 2az-fe. the 2nd and 3rd gen Scion tC has a 2.5L.
@scionnn "If the second generation xB WAS GIVEN the 2.5 Thank you I knew that already. So I say again, 2nd Gen xB 180hp instead of 158? Would still be around.
@@oreally8605 The tC is known to be a sporty coupe, while the xB is known for bring a good gas saver. Yes your right, they shouldve added a 180 hp engine, but the xB is a gas saver. Though they couldve saved it if they added a bigger engine option, but its a Scion, Scion only had one trim level, and a lot of options, known as accessories, like certified after market subs, speakers, etc.