@ just bat reviews. Thank u for the info. This has definitely been helpful when deciding on the bat for my son. I appreciate all the work with the videos. Keep them coming
This is by far the COOLEST bat comparison video out there. I loved it! The homerun videos are cool too, but this is a lot more informative in my opinion. Please make more videos like these!!!!!
You got it Tony. Much more on the way. Testing all the 33 inch BBCOR bats. Need about 1,000 swings to capture the data on so its taking us a bit. Hopefully up by this weekend.
Just Bat Reviews i think with the new USABAT standards and ppl being so unfamiliar with all the new bats, your going to get a lot of views on comparison videos of USABats. We get to hear how the bats sound, see the difference in swing and of course the results. Not too mention using your son as a marker we can tell the difference in barrel size between bats. It gives the consumers a lot of great feedback and information. Considering the new standard takes effect soon, the recent release of most of the new bats and the holidays being right around the corner, I'm sure many consumers who are getting a little lost by all this new bat standard stuff will appreciate videos like these. Excellent job, keep up the good work!
The Ghost 0.7 mph exit velocity advantage seems like a small margin when compared to the Quatro distance +33ft and launch angle advantage +10 degree. I agree exit velocity is important, but, I would rather see a line drive that travels further than a slightly harder hit ground ball that’s snagged by the SS. Nice work and thanks for showing the analysis.
Thanks JBR! Didn’t see a donation section on your page but did buy a hat! Everyone wants to see more USA data. Definitely interested in the Ghost Hyperlite’s EV too!
Would really like to see a comparison video of the Axe Element USAbat and the Demarini Voodoo hybrid USabat. Would also be neat to see a comparison video of a USAbat vs a USSSA bat like the Mako vs Ghost
Some sources are reporting that the marucci wood bats are outperforming the new usa bats in the distance that the ball travels. I know that several factors play in this, but would wood be better than the new usa bats?
LOVE the video. Here is my take on the data. The data shows that the batter made more solid contact with the Quatro with 10 hits on the screen being over 60.0 MPH exit speed vs. 7 hits over 60 mph on the Ghost X. The Ghost X also shows more hits to the Right than the Quatro but on either side they were mostly just off center. Mathematically speaking, higher exit speed combined with launch angle gets more distance. If the launch angle was the same on the Ghost as the Quatro........that changes the distance issue. Great video though.
Thanks for this review. The rapsodo data is great to see. Is there a way you can export the data and share it. People are mentioning the additional difference of the quatro, but there are too many variable to consider. True analysis should be off a tee to eliminate inconsistent variables. Also, I think there is a matrix that can compile all factors and give a rating, much like the Blast Motion index which compiles multiple factors. I think with a little work with some math folks we could create more of a standard output to apply across all uses and bats (within comparable categories of course).
Good thoughts Casey. And we have been working from a tee too. But we are concerned that collision speed is vitally important for a barrels performance to be measured more accurately. A tee simply can't recreate that...unless you know someone who has a 120mph bat speed we can borrow for a couple weeks? :) Lots of folks in these comments are mentioning the ball flight distance but we think that a mistake. Exit speed is barrel performance. Ball flight is a function of swing mechanics. But stay tuned, because a lot more to come in terms of consume access to these data points. We need to build up the database first and create a consistent process across the board too. Very exciting time for us.
Yeah. Good eye. We failed to mention that on the analysis portion, but we think exit speed is the more important variable as that is more akin to bat performance than avg distance. The Quatro's longest was 209 and the Ghost's longest was 208. But a number of really hard ground balls with the Ghost is what drove the low average distance.
The distance difference would be more meaningful if hitting from a tee for more consistency in the swings and contact point. However, in my opinion exit speed is the parameter to use for comparison.
You can't just look at the mean.... the ave distance is greater because the Quattro was more consistent, hitting more of balls around 63 and 64. While the ghost hit a few in 66 67 and then more in the 50s. Over a bigger sample the Quattro might have better numbers...shrug
Hey sir. I ran an unpair t-test on your numbers and found that there was not a statistically significant difference in the bats' exit speeds. However, what I found was that the variation exit speed of the Easton (sd=5.35) was greater than the variation of the Rawlings (sd=3.24). What this means is that the individual exit speeds hovered around the total mean more for the Rawlings than the Easton. This suggest that the Rawling had more consistent exit speeds. Looking at a F-test, a measurement of statistical significants between variates of the two bats.. The findings shows that the difference is the SD of the two bats is lower that 2.40. It is hard to explain why 2.40 (i.e. F-value distribution table), but please just trust me on this. So, this suggest that the Rawling a statistically more consistent than the Easton. However, this can be bias as there was only one batter. We can not say this holds true for everyone, but I can say for your son, this suggest that your son hit the Rawling with a more consistent exit speed than he did the Easton. When I look at how bats work for my sons, I look at exit speeds and consistency. For what it is worth.
Thanks Donald. We've tried with some effort to get more statistically significant data out of our results. I appreciate you taking the time, as a smart person, to give some validity to them. Have you seen our data sheet on our site? Send me an email if you have a second: admin@justbatreviews.com. We have tons of data to evaluate.
They get them shaved to hit far. Bat shaving service.com. Look it up all travel ball teams use these. And ur home town kids use these shaved bats also. Ha. Ha. Ur secret is out to the world.
Another interesting point is that the quatro traveled on average 168ft vs the Ghost @ 135ft. Interesting that the Ghost had the higher exit speed but the Quatro traveled farthetr
The ghost x are terrible bats. I spent 700 bucks for 2 bats a 27 inch for my 8 year old and a 30 inch for my 12 year old. if these are going to be the best bats for little league next year then they have ruined Little League and whereas we had about 20 to 30 home runs in the League last year it's going to be somewhere between 2 and 5 this year, horrible. players had better learn how to bunt and steal base to get there doubles this year.
Have your kids practice on a heavier wood bat. They'll get accustomed to swinging the heavier bat that during games when they swing the lighter bats they will hit faster and harder. That's how I practice with my 6 year old and he can pop the balls outfield on wood and to the fence on the lighter ghost X.
Ghost x bat just sucks. I will never buy an Easton Bat again just because of that bat. Horrible disappointing. Stings like crazy. Not even fun to hit with.
I like how that Quatro sounds
@ just bat reviews. Thank u for the info. This has definitely been helpful when deciding on the bat for my son. I appreciate all the work with the videos. Keep them coming
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This is by far the COOLEST bat comparison video out there. I loved it! The homerun videos are cool too, but this is a lot more informative in my opinion. Please make more videos like these!!!!!
I subscribed based off of this video!
You got it Tony. Much more on the way. Testing all the 33 inch BBCOR bats. Need about 1,000 swings to capture the data on so its taking us a bit. Hopefully up by this weekend.
Just Bat Reviews i think with the new USABAT standards and ppl being so unfamiliar with all the new bats, your going to get a lot of views on comparison videos of USABats. We get to hear how the bats sound, see the difference in swing and of course the results. Not too mention using your son as a marker we can tell the difference in barrel size between bats. It gives the consumers a lot of great feedback and information. Considering the new standard takes effect soon, the recent release of most of the new bats and the holidays being right around the corner, I'm sure many consumers who are getting a little lost by all this new bat standard stuff will appreciate videos like these. Excellent job, keep up the good work!
Awesome, I’ve been waiting on a review/ test of the USA bat standard Rawlings Quatro! Thanks for both of the videos today.
Yep. Little league football just got over for us so we should be cranking them out now.
The Ghost 0.7 mph exit velocity advantage seems like a small margin when compared to the Quatro distance +33ft and launch angle advantage +10 degree. I agree exit velocity is important, but, I would rather see a line drive that travels further than a slightly harder hit ground ball that’s snagged by the SS. Nice work and thanks for showing the analysis.
I wonder what an Orange Mako would do in this comparison. Some of those things are ferocious. Thanks for all the info!
Nice good info...I found it helpful....
Can you do a review on a combat -10 2 5/8 barrel?
Will you also be doing other bats such as LS, demarini Axe and Mizuno. Also interested in -8 results.
Thanks JBR! Didn’t see a donation section on your page but did buy a hat! Everyone wants to see more USA data. Definitely interested in the Ghost Hyperlite’s EV too!
We'll do that one here shortly. Thanks for the order.
Would really like to see a comparison video of the Axe Element USAbat and the Demarini Voodoo hybrid USabat. Would also be neat to see a comparison video of a USAbat vs a USSSA bat like the Mako vs Ghost
Some sources are reporting that the marucci wood bats are outperforming the new usa bats in the distance that the ball travels. I know that several factors play in this, but would wood be better than the new usa bats?
What exit velocity does this hitter have with a USSA bat? It would be cool to see the raspodo showing the difference
LOVE the video. Here is my take on the data. The data shows that the batter made more solid contact with the Quatro with 10 hits on the screen being over 60.0 MPH exit speed vs. 7 hits over 60 mph on the Ghost X. The Ghost X also shows more hits to the Right than the Quatro but on either side they were mostly just off center. Mathematically speaking, higher exit speed combined with launch angle gets more distance. If the launch angle was the same on the Ghost as the Quatro........that changes the distance issue. Great video though.
Thanks for this review. The rapsodo data is great to see. Is there a way you can export the data and share it. People are mentioning the additional difference of the quatro, but there are too many variable to consider. True analysis should be off a tee to eliminate inconsistent variables. Also, I think there is a matrix that can compile all factors and give a rating, much like the Blast Motion index which compiles multiple factors. I think with a little work with some math folks we could create more of a standard output to apply across all uses and bats (within comparable categories of course).
Good thoughts Casey. And we have been working from a tee too. But we are concerned that collision speed is vitally important for a barrels performance to be measured more accurately. A tee simply can't recreate that...unless you know someone who has a 120mph bat speed we can borrow for a couple weeks? :)
Lots of folks in these comments are mentioning the ball flight distance but we think that a mistake. Exit speed is barrel performance. Ball flight is a function of swing mechanics.
But stay tuned, because a lot more to come in terms of consume access to these data points. We need to build up the database first and create a consistent process across the board too. Very exciting time for us.
What is the name of that info device, and where can it be purchased? Ty
11/21/17 just got the Quatro 30/20...grab the bucket lets do this.....
Are the baseballs full grain leather??
What is that app called to see distance and speed and stuff?
Can U do a video on the demarini voodoo balanced USA bat
Gus Bus I'm with you on that one! I want to see a video of the hybrid on here too!
It's coming here shortly. Hopefully within the week.
The quatro is doing so good for me
The Quatro still hit the ball 33 feet further on average.
Yeah. Good eye. We failed to mention that on the analysis portion, but we think exit speed is the more important variable as that is more akin to bat performance than avg distance. The Quatro's longest was 209 and the Ghost's longest was 208. But a number of really hard ground balls with the Ghost is what drove the low average distance.
The distance difference would be more meaningful if hitting from a tee for more consistency in the swings and contact point. However, in my opinion exit speed is the parameter to use for comparison.
Would be great to see the USA DSB stats
Dennis Hall they are supposed to drop this month but no release date
You can't just look at the mean.... the ave distance is greater because the Quattro was more consistent, hitting more of balls around 63 and 64. While the ghost hit a few in 66 67 and then more in the 50s. Over a bigger sample the Quattro might have better numbers...shrug
Will you do some 5150
Hey sir. I ran an unpair t-test on your numbers and found that there was not a statistically significant difference in the bats' exit speeds. However, what I found was that the variation exit speed of the Easton (sd=5.35) was greater than the variation of the Rawlings (sd=3.24). What this means is that the individual exit speeds hovered around the total mean more for the Rawlings than the Easton. This suggest that the Rawling had more consistent exit speeds. Looking at a F-test, a measurement of statistical significants between variates of the two bats.. The findings shows that the difference is the SD of the two bats is lower that 2.40. It is hard to explain why 2.40 (i.e. F-value distribution table), but please just trust me on this. So, this suggest that the Rawling a statistically more consistent than the Easton. However, this can be bias as there was only one batter. We can not say this holds true for everyone, but I can say for your son, this suggest that your son hit the Rawling with a more consistent exit speed than he did the Easton. When I look at how bats work for my sons, I look at exit speeds and consistency. For what it is worth.
Thanks Donald. We've tried with some effort to get more statistically significant data out of our results. I appreciate you taking the time, as a smart person, to give some validity to them. Have you seen our data sheet on our site? Send me an email if you have a second: admin@justbatreviews.com. We have tons of data to evaluate.
will do, thanks
damn he can hit
Neck to neck seems like... would it be agreeable to say that the ghost x drop 8 would have better distance results compared to ghost x drop 10?
Assuming you can swing the drop 8 as well as you swing the drop 10 then yes.
Just Bat Reviews yuuuuuuup
Brah the drop 10 will hit it farther because the lower the drop
the farther it will go
@derek hahahahaha
Derek Alvarez physics bro... I mean brah
Anything on the new mizuno ghost usa ??
How old is your son?
They get them shaved to hit far. Bat shaving service.com. Look it up all travel ball teams use these. And ur home town kids use these shaved bats also. Ha. Ha. Ur secret is out to the world.
need that data for wood. this is getting ridiculous.
Another interesting point is that the quatro traveled on average 168ft vs the Ghost @ 135ft. Interesting that the Ghost had the higher exit speed but the Quatro traveled farthetr
Your kids way off balance
The ghost is terrible my 10 year old son broke 2 within a month.
The ghost x are terrible bats. I spent 700 bucks for 2 bats a 27 inch for my 8 year old and a 30 inch for my 12 year old. if these are going to be the best bats for little league next year then they have ruined Little League and whereas we had about 20 to 30 home runs in the League last year it's going to be somewhere between 2 and 5 this year, horrible. players had better learn how to bunt and steal base to get there doubles this year.
Just curious how many homeruns the 8 year old had ?
gerard lancaster zero
NOAH REYNOLDS this is true. Kids with the worst swing, terrible balance etc etc. We're hitting bombs because they're parents bought a $300 bat
Have your kids practice on a heavier wood bat. They'll get accustomed to swinging the heavier bat that during games when they swing the lighter bats they will hit faster and harder. That's how I practice with my 6 year old and he can pop the balls outfield on wood and to the fence on the lighter ghost X.
The ghost x is by far the worst bat ever made. I will never by an Easton again because of it. I would rather hit with a boat oar.
That dude hitting is trash
Ghost x bat just sucks. I will never buy an Easton Bat again just because of that bat. Horrible disappointing. Stings like crazy. Not even fun to hit with.