How Are Dealerships Still Getting Away With This?
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I love how you are making a game while also pointing out the insanity and stupidity of dealerships in America.
I feel like this was the first real comment
The "stupidity" is on the PEOPLE who buy these insanely overpriced cars.GREEDY!dealerships making double!!!THE ONLY WAY THIS PRICE GOUGING STOPS IS WHEN PEOPLE STOP LETTING THEMSELVES BE RIPPED OFF...
@@speeddemon123555555
BINGO!
@@speeddemon123555555 many people don’t have a choice, they need a vehicle to go to work so that they can afford basic things, it’s always seen as it’s the consumer’s fault, but it’s really the dealerships that add in their market adjustment prices that are way far off
It's the same people that are buying the new nvidia cards lol
The fact that people keep buying these cars at these absolutely ludicrous markups are why they won't sell them for MSRP
Hey people are rich maybe they do it on purpose so common folk can't get them and they get to keep everything to themselves. Greedy pigs
Another reason is you can't get around without a car. People think newer cars are more safer and reliable too.
@@austinhernandez2716Yes, you're both right.
You can't get around without a car. A car means freedom. A car is your ticket to doing what you want, when you want it. And, unless you live directly in the middle of a small town or big city, you're not going to be able to walk to obtain all your creature-comforts needs. Therefore, one NEEDS a car....so, ome must BUY a car, if they do not have it, or if their current one isn't working, and the stealerships KNOW you, the consumer, have no choice but to buy and pay what they're asking.
It's a shame. If only there was less regulation on the marketplace, competition could thrive and prices would decrease.
100,000 units at $20K is more profitable than 50,000 units at $35K.
@@alexledford4747 have u ever heard of buying a car used
@@ak_getright9905 Used cars are also at a premium right now though
I used to think $40k for a vehicle was too much. That’s now considered economy level 😭
YES. For like a golf. Here in The Netherlands you for example can buy a very good ford focus rs/st from 2018 for about €10.000,-. If i see these prices my mind just melts.
Combination of inflation, more tech, and more demand for specific cars
$230k for that Escalade is absolutely insane
The fact anyone would pay 40 percent markup is insanity
😅😅
Wasn't that last Z markup 150%?
They get away with it because people are stupid and bad with their money.
Or double MSRP like the Bronco Raptor.... 76k markup? WTF!
agreed, i will buy used IMMEDIATELY 😂😂
They're called Stealerships for a reason.
Because they sell cars for the price people pay for them?
The Dealership system is nothing more than a racket
I’ve never in my life heard anyone call it a stealership
@@CT-zi8em then clearly you've lived a very sheltered life.
Wow good one mate
Did you think of that yourself ?
Justin is such a great addition to the crew. Hope to see more of him in the future.
Yeah agree. Eyes closed tome his voice sounds exactly like Nolan. 😂
I work at a dealership that actually sells at MSRP and it's great. It feels like we're helping people by not ruining them financially for something they need/want
Wait is that for real? Those exist in America? Mind naming yours (or others if you're uncomfortable)
You guys should start emailing these dealers. The ones hiding their markup are even worse. Speaking of type r, I had a deposit down for one since April 22 and in October they surprise refunded me. I was number 1 in line too. Turns out they refunded me against my own wishes so that they could sell a type r they got in to one of the owners. Then they said sry I'm not in line anymore I can put another deposit down and wait again. They had my money for almost a year! I've never hated dealerships more than I do now.
Hope you blasted them all over social media for that one. That's slimy AF how they did you dirty like that.
@2WhiteAndNerdy I've been talking with the manager and if they want to correct themselves I'll let it go. I told them to sell me the very next type r they get for msrp and I'll be good. The original deal was msrp plus some dumb accessories. If they don't do anything then yea I'll post the dealer everywhere.
@@bowjangles510 do it ASAP, don't wait. You'll be waiting for years
Man can't you take them to court (is that how you spell it in english??)?? Or was there specified in the contract they could drop your deposit as they wished?
Don't sue, lawyers don't work.
Expose them on Twitter, post the names and places.
That does more damage!
A local Toyota dealer ran an ad for their Black Friday sale. The whole “sale” was them offering base 4runners for MSRP 😫
I love this series, best way to have a good laugh at people getting ripped off
Omg I just love the commentary between everyone!! Very fun
Jeremiah on the Toyota Sienna price:
“Why would they want to hurt a family like this?”
😂
lol that was great
No matter who wins, we all lose! I love this game!
lmaoo 😂😂😂
The dealerships win.
nah, I'm from india
Great job guys! I love these price guess games
Love this series! I like to play along with my girlfriend and guess along with them! Very entertaining keep them coming Donut!
When Lee said she hopes most people are enthusiastic about their children and Justin and Jeremiah both instantly said no... I felt that hard...
Next time, put the name of the dealership on screen too. love your guys work and maybe you guys can use your influence to combat this dumb trend with these dealerships.
The Sienna at 3:30 is being sold at Roseville Toyota which is owned by the dealership group Lithia Motors Inc. which currently owns 280 dealerships across the US.
Agreed!!
I can almost guarantee the Type R in San Jose they mentioned was from Stevens Creek Honda
You’re complaining about the free market
@@-SP. those Roseville Toyota dudes are shady AF!
I love these types of videos it’s like a comedy game show
I was at two dealerships, and what they are doing is advertising online msrp, then at the dealership they have add ons that they say come with the Mark up as a bundle, that they don’t mention online.
I live in San Jose and have been shopping for a new car. I can attest these prices are spot on. All I can say is stay strong and let the dealers continue to hurt sitting on inventory.
When I was lookin to buy my civic ~ a year ago, everything from Oakland to San Jose was marked up close 10-15K cause they tacked on a bunch of over priced nonnegotiable options. Had to audacity to say it wasn’t marked up.
@@FallingRiceballz Anything JDM is waaaay overpriced right now. I laughed when I saw civics with prices of Mercedes. I was like nope. I can turn wrenches for a few more years. 😅
@@angelgjr1999 I wasn’t even looking for a touring, just the sport hatchback. Had to drive 2 hours and still paid 5k above msrp. Got the color I wanted though 😂
@@FallingRiceballz Sheesh. I hope you don’t regret it.
Anything car is over priced atm. But if you really want one, get it out of state.. Better luck at getting them at msrp
I went to my Honda dealership just to look at one and they didn’t have one in stock but informed me that when they do arrive they will automatically come with a $15,000 mark up over MSRP putting it in the $57,000 range. I told him flatly I would be buying a IS500 Lexus with a V-8 or 298 other cars before I spent 57,000 on a performance Civic.
they don't care there will a buyer waiting at 15k or more over
A dealer that was asking for 5k mark-up on the Si was asking 30k mark-up for the Type R. Making that the most expensive Type R in the country? Lol. It made the 15k mark up my Si dealer asked sound like a steal! Unfortunately I don’t want to get rid of rev hang (and heat soak?) that bad lol.
I’ll look at buying one later, but according to top gear I think, Honda is only planning to sell hundreds, not thousands, so the mark-ups might be permanent due to demand.
The GR Corolla is even worse apparently.
You can't get a Lexus Is 500 for 60,000 if you were related to Ichira Toyoda himself right now. Lexus dealers are doing even higher markups.
I live in SoCal and a ton of dealers are no longer posting prices. You have to call or schedule a meeting with a sales guy to even get the price.
At that point that's sketchy business practices and Dealers should be transparent. Consumers need to put their foot down and stop buying cars to tank the market.
Those prices make my blood pressure go up! Or the fact that ppl are paying it!!
The bubble is bursting my friend so we can all take a deep breathe pretty soon. I been looking for a specific car on autotrader/cargurus/etc and I've been getting notifications of these cars dropping in price daily via email. Supply is finally coming back around and now dealers will soon be flooded with inventory. But, w're still stuck with over 8% inflation which is a big huge stinking pile.
Congratulations Donut Team on making it into Forza Horizon!
And NOT having their cars (seriously bruv)!!!!
@@BlackStigv it’s forza what did you expect.
It gave some life to a game where you pretty quickly run out things to do
Thanks to Forza for making it awful
@@nah3193 with a whopping...drum roll please......FIVE sub stories! wooooooo!
As someone who works at a chevy dealer, 90% of trucks we sell are from $65k to $90k! (even lower spec work trucks) prices these days are insane!!
I hope your commissions are at least seeing a bigger cut of the rapage. Otherwise every salesperson should be walking off the lot and letting the @$$hole managers do some work they scream about for once.
To afford a 65k truck at a 36 month loan with payment less than 10% of monthly take home, they need to make 325k a year. If it's s 60 month then still 200k a year.
Is that the case ?
On some of the 180k-200k+ cars is literally the same car payment as a mortgage. Finance companies are gonna have to offer 15 and 20 year loans or just not sell cars anymore if American companies dont raise wages.
You guys should move to blind bids on white boards for all guesses....to prevent the penny games. LOVE THESE VIDS!
5:33 i watched this interaction back like 5 times lmaooooooooooo
Max: "I think dealers are afraid to post really high asking prices"
James: "Because of us"
No but seriously y'all. Keep doing the lords work here. Much love 🙏🏻
How many Hi Car Subie?
Gasket go boom in smoke.
Dealerships would be even more worried, if Donut named them in these videos.
People can just atleast Google the MSRP before paying for the markups 🤷🏻♂️
@@rajgami8893 that's true, but you just end up finding out that all the dealerships in your area are screwing you. With nothing you can do about it.
Absolutely love how the influx in product reviews on CZcams has caused all these companies to start being more honest with their pricing and/or advertised data.
Except it's causing the opposite. Car dealers are still charging the same absurd markup, but publicly they just say "Call for Pricing" they're just getting more underhanded
I just sat through your raycon ad lol - merry Christmas
I enjoyed that you had a guest journalist on for this one! Added a fun angle
Ah yes, Donut Media's semi-annual "Dealerships are Scumbags" series. 😂😂 Good on Donut for trying to keep these dealerships in check.
Glad you made this video! More exposure to these crazy markups is needed!
Love these videos, keep it up!
Need that lowfi xmas beat in the sponsor ad
We need to start kink shaming people who pay gross markups on cars 😤
That is clearly some kind of masochistic kink
They are already into monetary-control, embarrassment, and shame kinks so it will only turn them on more.
Who TF cares. Markups on cars is the best thing that can happen. Personal vehicle ownership should be highly controlled especially in urban areas.
We need to shame people with multiple vehicles and houses.
@@TheTransitmtl Deduct point on their social credit score
Some need to find another hobby ffs
"people aren't buying sports cars so we shouldn't make new ones" yea because the dealers are pricing them out of the market
Not just the dealer. MSRP on a 10 speed Mustang GT is $50k+. The average american barely makes more than that. And for many, the mustang would be a weekend car.
@@gerald4535 really? Ever mustang owner I know daily drives them. Maybe a fully modded out one would be a weekender, but those are daily drivers unless we're talking a shelby or something. The prices are still silly though, agree on that
@@dubsessed9790 he said average. Your friend group is not reality. Try hanging out with the rich business guys they own astons and ferraris...
I'll be looking at my local dealerships to see how greedy they are and taking note. The tables should turn in a couple years or less. Definitely worth waiting for a buyer's market if you can.
i live in washington sate and when the 400z was listed for sale it was posted on a local for sale page, out of curiosity i called the sales woman and at that time they "had offers of 105k" crazy how much more its gone up since then. i wonder if its sold yet
It’s like the saying goes, “the price is what it is, because that’s what people are willing to pay for them”
But that's not true at all. It's because you can't buy directly from manufacturers. It's a middle man that Jack's up the prices. Also not everyone is willing to drive. But let's be real, in America that's your only option. No one is going to walk 2 hours for a handful of groceries along a 5 lanes freeway with no safe sidewalk or crosswalk. Cities are only designed for cars, everything else is almost entirely neglected. Because that's freedom, apparently.
Yes, don't pay if you don't want to
@@austinhernandez2716 Do you think manufacturers would not adjust prices to fit market conditions as well? The difference is that the manufacturers are more likely to have consistent pricing across the board, rather than the current situation where you can shop around. For non-car purchases, I often check the manufacturer's website to see what prices they post to compare with retailers. In those cases, the MSRP is basically the max price the item could normally sell for, and that is what the manufacturer often posts, while retailers sell it for that (but with free shipping or some other benefit), or even a discount. Then, as the item gets older, and especially if a new model is introduced, the retailer will continue to mark the item down, while the manufacturer keeps it at MSRP.
I believe car manufacturers being able to sell cars directly would be a good thing, but I do not think it would be a panacea for car prices. It would help stabilize them, but once inventory recovers and dealerships have cars on the lot again, there will be plenty of people who want to walk into the dealership, look at the options, test drive a few, then drive out with their new car.
Manufacturers spend millions researching the development of a car. When dealerships pull this shit, it fudges the sales numbers potentially causing a car company to discontinue a car due to poor sales. The Ford focus RS is a perfect example. Dealerships overcharging 30-40% caused the car not to sell well and Ford pulled the plug.
@@joeyy2207 huh?
Manufacturers need to take more action to stop dealerships from doing this.
Ford
Lol when pigs fly man. They're chasing profit
They don’t care. Manufacturers get paid when they wholesale to the dealer.
James seems like the type of guy that would borrow your car and when you get it back, it never smells right again.
Really wanted a 23 Z but dealerships scared me off with 40k markups. When the banks fail ill be happy to pick one up for 20k
40k OTD would've been a deal for the new Z. But 40k markup? Hah! They got jokes.
If the banks fail, you wont be getting a loan to buy a damn thing
@The Ace TroubleShooter don't have any debt so I'll be in a better spot than the bank lol. Won't need a loan
What if you lose you job from layoffs? It won’t just be the banks failing
@James Humphrey and what if civilization just crumbles? You get over it and hunt, kill, and scavenge... I'm still out of debt and banks aren't.
Should say the name of the dealerships too, can’t let them get away with price gouging
Not price gouging - it's a market economy and you DON'T HAVE TO PAY WHAT THEY ARE ASKING.
There are thousands of car dealerships in the country. Find a different one.
@@VideoArchiveGuy It's definitely price gouging. A Ford Maverick base model is supposed to be just around $20k, and every single dealerships have been jacking them up.
@@Tylnorton No it's not "gouging" - this isn't food, no one NEEDS a Maverick.
Dealers should charge whatever people are willing to pay.
Really, they should take bids for each car and sell it for the highest bid, the way real estate works.
If they charge too much, it sits on the lot.
The way to find the market price is to start with a high markup then lower it slowly until it sells.
Anything else and you're leaving money on the table, that makes no sense.
If you had something someone would give you $1000 for, would you sell it for $10 just because?
Here's how you prevent them from getting away with it.
Don't buy them.
I bought my Mazda 3 Turbo about a year ago, of course it's not under as much demand as a lot of these cars but it was under significant additional demand. And the dealerships in Atlanta were trying to charge about $6,000 over MSRP. I ended up paying under dealer invoice, splitting the hold back and the spiff. It takes patience, and the willingness to walk away. It takes a few $20 bribes to find out when dealerships last day of the month is. And it takes a little ruthless cleverness.
But any dealership that wouldn't budge, I'd simply walk away from. Don't give them extra money
Two sponsors? Yall doing okay financially? Cause that would suck. Yall seriously entertaining. Thanks for the videos!
love the awkward high5 @ 5:35 😬😂
'I would hope most parents are enthused by their children'
James's dad: Exists
This is insane. So happy I bought my dream car 2 years ago when prices were still normal
I didn't get my dream car, but I got a vehicle I wanted at 5k below MSRP here in southern California just before the pandemic
@@JustaPersonTryinToHuman365 it may not be your dream car but you got a deal that doesn’t excise anymore. Hope you get your dream ride someday
Cars were cheaper since people weren't driving too. My mom got a 2019 Altima SL for $19k. It would have probably been $26-$30k in the peak of the nonsense inflation. Fortunately for me, I got a 2012 F150 I wanted for $10,995 not even 2 weeks ago so at least some prices are starting to come down.
I bought my (not dream car) 13 years ago and I'm still driving that same POS. 😂😂😂
A ford probe?
Do more of these
Seeing videos like this make me grateful for my local Ford dealer. I just got a new Bronco Sport for MSRP
That's great and all, but even MSRP on those things is ridiculous. I can't see spending more money on a vehicle, than I did on my home. These vehicle prices have gotten outrageous.
What if Donut had a dealership that would sell cars with reasonable prices?
DONUT AUTO DEALER.....MIGHT BE FAIR WITH HIGH/LOW PRICES/MODS OPTION
Working in the automotive world is like working in the veterinary world. People have such emotional attachments, they will always look at the dealer, the mechanic or the vet as the bad guy when they get bad news.
Still wouldn't happen there's too much overhead costs in operating a dealership.
That already exist bro, it's called the rest of the world. LMOA
@@feckyerlife 🤣🤣🤣 a giant parking lot and paying workers based on a shitty commission scheme isn't high overhead
Really love and appreciate what this channel brings to the CZcams on top of that it’s beyond informational and entertaining. Stay safe all.
James: “I like Toyota Siennas.” 😂 3:28
11:58 Lol that ending 😄
Kristen Lee is awesome! So stoked to see her on this channel as a guest.
Make her a regular! Great knowledge and chemistry.
She's maybe the best writer on The Drive which is a mixed bag for sure. She's definitely solid.
She definitely blew them all after the show she'll be back
3:56
"But some people are very *enthused* about their children.
- James
Super funny and informative 👍👍👍👍
Love it, this is a great way to mock your currently effed up car sales system. I hope they sort something out soon!
Donut: Why would they want to hurt a family? Dealership: We like hurting families.
Vin Diesel: I got family.
Fast 10 is Dom stealing truckloads of minivans from dealers charging over msrp, and the police aren’t sure who to go after - Dom or the dealerships. In one heist, he puts on a blonde wig and a long dress, and takes one out for a test drive - only to then rip it around a bunch of turns and throw the salesman out the power sliding door.
@@stephen3164 😂😂😂😂
@@stephen3164 I'd actually pay to see that movie, and root for the 'dealer out the door' scene!
@@lego4virgo ejecto seato 2.0!
The KIA Rio doesn’t seem like it would be marked up much, but it’s being sold in National City which is blocks away from Naval Base San Diego probably on Mile of cars way, a street littered with dealerships who take advantage of new Sailors and mark up huge amounts and have insane interest rates, been stationed here for 4 years and I’ve seen it happen almost on a weekly basis😂
Feels bad
Sadly, it's like that around every military base. I was the dumbass E-2 that bought a Mustang at 24% interest 22 years ago lol
If customers pay it, why should they charge less?
Probably ball Kia right there
Manhattan Auto Group fuckin joes in the big red 1 harder than asbestos in the starships.
It's crazy in Canada too. We bought our 1 year old Toyota Sienna with 26,000 miles in March of 2020 just before the pandemic for roughly $31,000 CDN. We currently have about 48,000 miles on it. At a local no haggle highly regarded reputable strictly used car dealer, the exact same year and trim as our Sienna that they had, with just over 60,000 miles, the price is $33,000 CDN!! The value of our Sienna INCREASED?!?! Absolutely crazy!!!
2 adverts in one video I respect the hustle
They can't keep getting away with this! - PINKMAN, Jesse.
Fire video, definitely had time to watch whole vid to come to that conclusion
😂😂😂
Call dealership for price 😂. The new move
James is the best driver. Love the real life drama
I love how actually James pointed out actually how american dealerships actually rip off people with inflated prices rather than actual prices for the actual car !
actually
You're upload timing has been legit perfect for me. I get out of work, feed the dogs. Sit down with some food and you guys upload. Gotta love it 🙏
@The Hemwick Hag I work 12 hour nights? 😂
@The Hemwick Hag I just assumed you knew how to read considering your comment but I guess I was wrong.
@The Hemwick Hag you found out how to delete your comment but you can't read. Nice lol
@@Garage989 You made a typo in your comment.
@The Hemwick Hag I could ask you the same thing. You seemed pretty salty about my "2 hour" work day.
James throwing up the 'tism hands while he does maths lol
I love this game so much
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You guys should try to guess the preowned vehicles at dealerships in different states. My head exploded when I was looking for trucks in SC
I love your videos you guys thank you for all the content I love y’all I hope y’all have great days and lives❤️❤️
I've never seen Tamarac, FL mentioned before in any type of media, ever. That was a first for my hometown.
hearing the killer queen bomb click every two seconds is really throwing me off LOL
I literally went to a Toyota dealership yesterday to check out the Corolla GR and after a 20k mark up they were asking for 65k total! Insanity.
Lol, you were looking at a rare, 1st year released, high performance car. What exactly did you expect the price to be? And how many did they have on the lot?
@@saultknutz1166 High performance 😆 🤣 😂. It has 300 hp.
@@jpizel1070 lol, doesn't weigh much either. Comes in a manual with AWD that can be split into a rear bias. Some models come with a carbon fiber roof and no back seat. Has a widebody and more than one exhaust. Sounds like high performance to me...
For a corrolla? That is on a whole new level.
@@codorin It's not your average everyday Corolla though...
“220,000 which used to be a down payment on a hell of a home”
👀 me who paid 160k for my home in small town Georgia 4 years ago
lmao I was thinking the same thing, that'll buy you a decent house around my parts
220,000 will buy you a hell of a nice home here in Alabama.
@@blazervol3357 Yeah gotta love the South lol.
I think he meant $220,000 would get you a good home. Now it's the price of a car.
That or it's California which is also ridiculous about home prices as the car prices.
@@blazervol3357 yeah but what's the median salary in that place?
Jeremy and Justin just pull a Nolan move on the last price guess and came out as a Tie. What a comeback
It’s seriously crazy right now but we have noticed book values starting to drop, especially on trucks. We’re going to see a lot of changes in the next year!
Kristen needs to be on Donut more. She's got a good rapport, seems to know her stuff, and can break up the sausage fest that is Donut.
But… only men are allowed to compete in S.Korean Beauty Pageants, and those are Donut’s *main* source of capital.
Why do you think their recent “talent” hires are: • a hairy mechanic. • a very muscular man & Asian Car guru. • a tall, thin, and hairless engineer.
All while the other new hire specializes in photography!
@@cjwrench07 You talked a lot for not adding to OP's comment. Go femibash somewhere else.
How do you know he doesn’t have a sausage? 😂
@@kanedaku what the fuck does that even mean?
@@brrrt7623 Okay, since you don't understand, OP said it would be nice to see Kristen more as she works well with the team, then *THAT* person I replied to went off on a tangent complaining about how they haven't hired any women as presenters.
First of all, Kristen isn't a presenter here, she's a knowledgeable guest here for her erm.. knowledge.
Secondly, for the content of OP's comment, there's no need to go on a rant about how the channel has a sexist line-up.
Do you comprehend what I said now? 🙄
Even the MSRPs on all these cars are insane.
I thank all these CZcamsrs for the mark up on cars
Here's the story I want to buy RAM TRX, a dream super truck of mine since forever, not so long ago there was a new generation of this TRX line and I loved it, so I wanted to find out how much it will cost me, I opened the truck maker's website and started building it to my preference (all features of course, go big or go home! :D. And so I was positively surprised that the price did not exceed 100k USD since this beast goes 0-60 in under 4 seconds and has 700+hp, and it can jump over dunes untouched! And so I asked for a quote and realized the dealership made itself a markup of 30%, the price went from 100k USD, to around 130k USD. Dealerships in America are ridiculous...
They're not any better in Canada
This makes me wish I had a 2nd car just as a back up.
You guys don't have multiple cars? Fake car nerd spotted!
I got a car and a long bed truck.
I am so glad i got my truck when I did a few years back before prices completely skyrocketed.
Y'ALL NEW ENTHUSIST JUST DROPPED: FAMILY EDTION
I feel like the prices keep getting worse. And at an alarming rate. Absolutely ridiculous prices.
Thanks for the video pals
James seems unusually "normal" with that woman next to him 😂😂😂
He usually like that when girls next to him
Looool
I would have dominated this episode if I was there 😂😂
That Ray-con commercial got me crying bro 😢🤣
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Also guessed 48k amazing. The avg new car price was in the low to mid 30’s a couple years ago
We can be pissed at these prices all day long, but as long as we are willing to pay those stupid amounts they’ll never come down. Ultimately we are to blame, not the dealers
It’s the 72 month sale terms that makes these sales possible, those should be banned. At $800 a payment a $100k car is suddenly possible for a family, when that used be $1800 a month minimum
We built car centric cities and made it the only way to have a job and get groceries and such.
We should be getting cars subsidized and not inflated this way.
Always makes me sick when the prices of stuff increases a crazy amount and then the company has the audacity to go, “new record profits we have never seen before.”
Like, guess the free market isn’t really working now, as there is nothing to stop dealerships from raising prices as we have literally no other way to buy them.
@@lazyfoxplays8503 truly insane financing terms has allowed the base price of a starter car to climb from $7000 to $26k and has allowed a lot of manufacturers including Ford, GM, even Volkswagen to just get rid of starter cars entirely and price their lowest models at $39k and up. It’s crazy. Back when you paid $7000 for a car you also did it cash or a rare 2 year deal, there were no 72/84 month deals or leases.
@@MichaelEilers $800 * 72 = 57,600. A $100k car, with 0% interest would take 125 months to be $800 per month. A $100k loan, for 72 months is nearly $1400 a month, minimum.
Who is this "we"? You got a mouse in your pocket? The correct term is "you".
I live in Chicago.
Most of these cars are listed at or below msrp around here, except for the Bronco Raptor
i recently went to some local dealership websites and they crack me up. they put the MSRP of X car at 20k but they sell it at a low price of 30k.
Next time you guys do this. You should go by who was the closet overall. Meaning you keep track of who has the least amount over/under, and they win at the end.
Donut media you should do an old car version
This video ages well
Your guys videos are one of my biggest sources of happiness
For real
Kristen Lee would be a perfect addition to the Donut team. I used to see her on Jalopnik years ago. I haven't seen her in a long time! This was a good surprise this morning.