I used to think Nintendo was cool.
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- čas přidán 11. 03. 2024
- Unfortunately my sentiment is shared by a lot of people.
If you disagree leave a comment down below, I'm open to discussion.
The game I'm playing is a Super Mario 64 rom hack by Kaze Emanuar called Through the Ages go check it out here
- • SM64: Through the Ages...
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The Title remembers me to that one Joy Con video of HotDiggetiDemon.
I agree with that, Nintendo should focus on the actual root problem of piracy instead of just stopping piracy. It’s like when governments just try to hide and shove away homeless people instead of actually helping and fixing the problem that is causing them to be homeless in the first place.
Exactly, the Gabe Newell quote very much shares that sentiment. It is unfortunate and shows other games companies that following in Nintendo's lead is a viable strategy.
There really isn't much you can do about someone who wants to pirate Super Mario Wonder. That's not a game preservation or supply issue, that's just good old fashion theft.
@@WuAgent you are right, but one can't act like the game isn't going to be pirated in the first place. Like the fact that you have money is going to make you invulnerable to being poor.
I think the problem relies much on putting too much focus on restrictions for things that shouldn't happen than making solutions to, what unbelievably, happens.
@WuAgent Piracy is not theft. Theft implies that something is stolen from one party by another. A stolen possession is inaccessible to the party it was stolen from until it is returned, and replacing it will always have a material cost.
Piracy is copyright infringement. It is making/using/distributing an unauthorized copy of a work protected by copyright. Unlike theft, when a work is pirated, the creator does not lose access to that work, and the material cost of producing another digital copy of that work is essentially zero.
Think of it like cheating on a test. Theft is like stealing the smart kid’s answer sheet and submitting it as your own, whereas piracy is like copying the smart kid’s answers onto your own sheet.
@@earthboiproductions2407 A useless semantics debate. Not interested buddy.
People who pirate games are stealing. Is that better for you?
And they have the balls to shut down 3DS online before releasing a $60 port of a 3DS game that had one of the most fun online modes.
what game?
@@wyaPUNK Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon
@@laveragegamer6000 oh man i remember that game, what a good time. I haven't played Luigi's Mansion 3 is its online similar?
@@wyaPUNK yeah
At least if you mod your 3ds you can use pretendo so at least we can still play online on exclusive games.
They dont even put the first Super Mario Land game on the online service, even know that was one of the most important gameboy games for this handheld right next to Tetris
There are still archives of yuzu up, i just set mine up not even an hour ago
I am familiar with this, but due to the ruling now id rather not plug that. I don't want to get my video taken down 😆
I agree, and very informative, I like that you spread awareness to people, different emulators and fan made games will be able to break some policy, like emulating fairly recent games or violate the copyright terms , there nintendo has clear motivation to take them down, but imagine paying 40 bucks on games of 20 years ago that with minimal effort put in, you can play them directly and for free on your phone in higher quality lmao
exactly! an android phone is much more capable of playing older Nintendo games than the switch by MILES.
I grew up when a big bag of Doritos was $2. that same bag is now $6. I'll never buy a bag of Doritos at that price. What I can't do, however, is pilfer all the bags of Doritos from the store because the price is too high and get angry at the store for calling the cops on me.
first video this guys ever posted, I’m already subbing
Came from your reddit post, gotta say good editing style
There's a lot of scare about Nintendie taking shots at Ryujinx and other emulators after this and while I do agree that's possible, and that they are definitely extremely relentless for no good reason, I don't think being scared that emulators will disappear completely is logical. Like you said, most of them didn't do shady stuff and profit off of their software.
Yuzu was also allegedly putting out beta versions of the emulator behind a patreon that were specifically fine-tuned to run pirated copies of games before their official release. So yeah, add that on top and you have your reasons on why Nintendo was the angriest at them lol
Thank you brother. I definentally agree, but I don't believe that even the special patreon builds were able to play games before official release. If I recall correctly that was part of yuzu policy to not allow unreleased games to run.
Nintendo isn’t as good as it was in the 2000s and 2010s back in the day. We got so much great games and tons of stuff like that. It’s too bad nowadays some of the games are just kind of bland like Princess peach showtime I miss the Nintendo of. The past. The best thing they did recently was making a Mario movie and some remakes but they still do bad decisions
Nintendo is the most greedy game company ever. They want you pay 60 bucks for a game and dont even lower the prices for their games, plus they want you to pay 40 buck a year for online and for a trash N64 emulator.
For me its incredibly sad, because Nintendo is still capable of making good things.
Greedy
Yes
The most greedy company?
Ea took that place
@@caine_the_ringmasterAt least they don't treat their developers like crap or crunch like Activision or EA
@@M64bros fr
@@caine_the_ringmaster indeed
What an excellent video. I couldn't agree more. I love Nintendo, I really do, but I'm really upset at the crap they've pulled in recent years. I'll always buy the next Mario game, but I don't regard them quite as high as I used to. I just want them to be better. They really have everything they need to be the best / most highly respected game company, they're just incredibly fricking stubborn.
You deserve way more subscribers, I'm surprised you don't have more such good editing ao much personality
thank you brother. i appreciate it alot 💙.
4:30 okay one little gripe, ARES is NOT friendly on older hardware, I have a older Ryzen 5 from ~2020 or so, ARES runs N64 like actual garb on that lol, but yeah,
im sorry. i actually dont have any lower end hardware to test it on. but of course there is always mupen and project 64. im thinking of making an emulation extravaganza type video to talk more about stuff like this.
I used to have stickdrift on my Wii U game pad 💀 it’s not a new thing yet they still refuse to do anything about it.
Bro ain’t no way this your first video, I thought this was from some popular youtuber, subbed
thank you brother. I really appreciate it
Great video dude! I hope you put out more :)
Absolutely plan to. Much love ❤️.
I believe taking down a switch emulator is fair, but anything below 3ds is fair game
2:21 And Pikmin WIP a few days ago (again)
I also used to think Nintendo was cool, but given their recent business practices and greedy financial decisions, some of that magic starts to fade away every day.
Then how come their theme parks have been successful along with a successful movie and Super Mario Wonder and Tears of the Kingdom?
its exactly what i was talking about in the video. there is still a glimer of a good company in there. its just its clouded and muddied by anti consumer descisions.
@@wyaPUNK Completely understandable
They are making money in the wrong way. lol. The little sprog disses us millennials... Well played. Nice vid.
Also, Nintendo can't release mother 3 in the US due to the amount of copywritten material in the original game.
i found this out shortly after uploading 😢 oopsies 😢😢😢
1:59, wii my ass, NES more like.
I've been wanting to make a video like this for a while, but you did the topic justice and held no punches. Nintendo the game developer is amazing, Nintendo the game company is one of the greediest bastards in the industry.
I think the main reason that citra/yuzu got shutdown is that they were promoting piracy/downloading roms of games not released yet. This is from my knowledge though so I’m not entirely sure
i understand, because a lot of people have been spreading misinformation that they were, but every policy of yuzu was to prevent piracy. Thats why you couldnt just download keys straight from the yuzu website, it was to prevent piracy.
They were not. They actually discouraged any discussion of piracy.
6:42 that was true on Wii U, but switch??? Ehhhh?
I think intendo has been shit since the wii. They released the 3ds with a 3d feature that you couldn't even use until they updated it with the newer model wtf.
0:33 the yuzu vs nintendo lawsuit never reached court, they settled out of court instead
0:38 no judge has ever ruled against or in favor of yuzus practice of soliciting donations to work on the emulator, so absolutely no legal precedent has been set at all. other paid emulators are still just fine until a judge rules against them in a case that actually goes to court
source is videogame esoterica
Seems like Mario Kart tour never improved the racing part of the game instead has turned to aggressive AI that’s allowed to cheat. no item options for the AI. Just messing with badges so you have to guess their difficulty instead of just letting the players choose the difficulty they want.
nintendo isn't cool. not sure how it was with iwata still being alive, but from what i know iwata did a lot of cool stuff that would never have happened otherwise. i think mother 2 - earthbound SNES is part of that.
like every other company, nintendo is also a company. they want our money. and companys aren't our friends. companys aren't "cool"
on my end, i can't deny nintendo makes cool games. the mario games and even luigi's mansion games are some of my favorites. and i know i am part of the problem to keep buying nintendo's shit.
nintendo is like a very selective petty child. it can be nice and playful but don't you dare piss it off. you will regret it
I think you're right, but I disagree that companies cant be cool. there are a lot of really cool companies that do good stuff for consumers. it tends to pay off as well its a shame its not so common anymore.
@@wyaPUNK i suppose i just picked the wrong side then. the coolest company i can think of is valve and how they treat their customers/go about the piracy problem. but when i think about the other big ones like EA and Blizzard for example it doesn't seem to be that much better. though i am not the one to talk about them since i am not familiar with them. what companies would you consider "cool" if you don't mind me asking?
thank you for taking your time to reply btw~
@@N3Selina The problem is not everything was beautiful and pretty when he was still around and the same thing with Reggie, There were also fan takedowns and weird decisions that fans didn't like during the 3DS and the Wii era, However, Nintendo did actually pay tribute to him in the Mario movie credit scene, which is proof that they still care about his legacy.
@@M64bros
i think i know what you mean. i am not one to talk about company PR and IP decisions - but i agree that nintendo's decisions have been rather hard to justify on a moral level. i am not too knowledgable about reggie either. he seemed like he had the best intentions and seemed like a person that tried very hard to do the right thing~
but yeah, i think that also supports the video's message. nintendo isn't cool
@@N3Selina They are still the same as always, The problem is it can be our fault as well.
Remember what happened with the Super Smash Bros community?
I have some problems with the Nintendo negativity, When people blame Nintendo as a whole, they drag in the developers and the employees considering the fact they have absolutely nothing to do with the DMCA legal team that makes those decisions
my intentions were absolutely not to target any developers if there was any confusion. i wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment.
@@wyaPUNK Indeed and no worries as well, I still agree with everything you said in this video
I agree the developers at Nintendo should not be dragged into this.
Nintendo didn't shut down the emulator for the patreon, Nintendo SHUT DOWN the emulator because the patreons obtained access to a secret discord that has free or even paid roms from switch to run the emulator.
And this is completely illegal and is not what game preservation is...
Also the code needed to decrypt the games was copywrited, so... Yuzu could have survived ONLY if they didn't offered access to the Switch's roms Discord in first place, because if nintendo wanted to... They could have shut down every emulator for their consoles, and they are not doing it.
Also this could apply for citra, because they are the same creators and didn't wanted more problems, they shut down THEMSELVES this emulator too.
I don't believe that even the special patreon builds were able to play games before official release. If I recall correctly that was part of yuzu policy to not allow unreleased games to run. And that code used to decrypt games is legally obtained, if nintendo has a piece of hardware that has a vulnerability in it the user who paid full price for it has the choice that they can do whatever they want with that. it may be against nintendo's terms of service but it is legal. Yuzu shut themselves down because they couldn't handle the heat of taking this to court because they are not a gigantic mega corporation.
@@wyaPUNK Legallity ends when you are selling games that you don't develop and you didn't payed.
And that only works if they use reverse engineering to decrypt the games, not using the straight up code of the console.
AND THEY HAVE DONE BOTH
@@martodila they never sold any of nintendo's games nor did they sell or even freely give out the decryption keys for their software to run. that was all up to the user. you are misinformed.
@@wyaPUNK but, they made personalized versions of the emulator paid via Patreon to play games even a week before the official release
And no, getting the decryption codes are not legal (at least in USA)
The legal demand wasn't for the emulator, it was for the access early for the games
@@martodila i just said in my previous message how the personalized builds could not play games before release. that was part of yuzu policy. you are misinformed.
I love Nintendo games, but I don't like paying. They can't shut every emulator!
You kind of had me until 6:45, sorry.
was that remake good or something? I did not have a good time with it at all. Im genuinely curious did i miss something?
Who recommended this video to me
Anyways i pirate my 3ds shoutouts to luma3ds and the 3ds hacking community for being the best
Nintendo hasn’t been cool since the GameCube
Then how come the Nintendo switch sold successfully to the public, The Super Mario Bros movie and their theme park as well?
@@M64bros There's a difference between success and cool factor
@@donaldthescotishtwin True, Also apologies as well
The laments of people who haven't bought a video game since Obama's first term.
It's easy to have every game ever made on your platform when it's all pirated software and you don't have to worry about pesky things like licensing and royalty fees.
NSO is $49 a year, not a month. Yuzu wasn't taking donations to preserve old games. They were bankrolling off day and date rips of TOTK. Truth is, Nintendo doesn't care about emulators or emulation. They do care about people making money off their stuff.
The museum analogy isn't very good. The people who own the works put them in the museum themselves by selling it to them. Nintendo's situation would be like museum staff breaking into people's houses, stealing their items, displaying it at their museum then getting pissed off when the original owners show up with the police to get their stuff back.
One, i mustve given off an older age then i am but i have bought nintendo games after 2016. I still do I bought tears of the kingdom when it released. And two i dumped tears of the kingdom and played a backup on pc day one. which is legal, but two yuzu wouldnt let you boot tears of the kingdom that early youd have to look to ryujinx so for you to accuse yuzu devs of "bankrolling of day and date rips of TOTK" is just an outright lie. Your completely misunderstanding the museum analogy because yuzu wasnt stealing anyones copyrighted code. they simply created a software which emulates a piece of hardware which has been legal since the ps1 era. the only reason nintendo was able to take them down is because a court said it was wrong to lock more actively updated builds behind a paywall. yuzu did not break or disturb anything. please research before you write hateful comments assuming things about others.
Exactly and finally! A real person that knows the truth about the situation!!!
@@wyaPUNK Sorry buddy, but you're wrong.
Yuzu was indeed bankrolling from TOTK rips and had the game running day and date due to having the encryption keys and the Rom and distributing them through their discord. So yes, they DID steal Nintendo's copyrighted code and were forced to give it back per the settlement. The lawsuit wasn't even going after emulators. It was going after hacking tools and proprietary code used to get the game running on the emulator.
Why would they settle so quickly if everything they were doing was above board? Why is ryujinx and 100s of other Switch emulators which can be easily found by a simple google search doing just fine if Nintendo just wanted to take down every emulator?
Emulation in dumping your own purchased game is perfectly Legal and Nintendo knows this, regardless of how they feel about it. What yuzu did, in illegally distributing game roms along with encryption keys to circumvent Switch security while paywalling it is not.
that is just categorically wrong i was there during all of that and there was no such keys discord stop spreading misinformation.
they settled quickly because they couldnt afford to take nintendos robust lawyers to court
i never really liked nintendo, most of their consoles have annoying gimmicks. Nintendo makes such good games but they just lock them behind a gimmicky console. The wii has motion controls, the ds has 2 screens the switch has joycons etc.
They just shut down emulators for trying to preserve old games and so people can play them without that (no longer produced) console