Chaos Down Under - And the Tiny Mistake That Caused It | Emirates 407
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- How one minor error almost resulted in the worst air crash in the history of aviation in Australia.
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CREDITS
Voice Actors
Captain - Lance Beebe
First Officer - Nancy O’Fallon
Air Traffic Control - Nancy O’Fallon
Augmenting Captain - Nancy O’Fallon
Augmenting First Officer - Michael Neeb
Music
Music - purple-planet.com
Sim Footage
X Plane
Camera System - X Camera
Plane - Toliss A340
0:00 Intro
1:23 Context
1:58 Pilots Enter The Cockpit
3:06 Continue Preparations
3:57 Take-Off Calculations
6:15 Flex Temp
7:43 Error Checks
12:05 Push Back & Taxi
13:27 A Dramatic Take-Off
14:39 “You’ve Had A Tailstrike”
17:00 Smoke
18:06 Aftermath & Analysis
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Emirates 407: You're meant to intercept the localizer on arrival not departure.
Intercept the radio signal of*
Good one
Ooohh Burn ❤️🔥👍🦉
SID? Nah bro we taking the STAR DEPARTURE
You get the funny comment award!
The aircraft was not written off, but was instead returned to Airbus by way of a low-altitude flight without pressurisation routed from Melbourne to Toulouse on 19 June via Perth, Singapore, Dubai, and Cairo with the crew flying below 12,000 feet (3,700 m).It was then repaired and return to flight in December 2009. (From Wikipedia)
I bet the fuel bill would be spectacular for that flight home. Jet engines tend to guzzle JP at that level.
@@brianspencer6397I'm guessing one of the reasons for that many stops
The extra costs of fuel etc would have been worth it, compared to writing the aircraft off and having that 'stain' on their records.
PS Both pilots were sacked. (Asked to resign)
Man the crew loading that plane was on point they loaded 5 skids in 2 seconds
Thanks for the view into the incident at YMML. After 45 years of flying I have never done a perfect flight.
This is a small point but the initial data sent from flight planning in Dubai would only have a provisional load sheet and just before doors close they would get the final load sheet.
Another thing we used to do was make sure the aircraft reached 80 + knots by the 1000 foot markers.
There’s so many CZcams experts that get every flight perfect 🙄
@@GR8Tmate Have you ever flown I guess not the comment you replied to actually (
@brentladelle3338)
4 months ago shows your ignorance of the 1000ft marker no not a commercial [pilot as in heavy iron here but IFR twin turbine save your comments for those who are silly enough 2 listen 2 you doubt you have in my mind at least you have never approached V1 nor ever apart from a Microsoft simulator game ever descended 2 and entered short final towards the black stuff towards the piano keys in reality ,enough said
@@TheSilmarillian Ace of the base here. :/
It’s hard to believe that such a modern sophisticated aircraft doesn’t possess technology which can detect any huge disparity in actual weight and that input manually. There are multiple ways this could be achieved.
The problem is the plane was designed in 1970s so the computerized system are melded system mess. The fact that they need to run the system performance in a laptop is just asking for errors.
Most aircraft use laptops/tablets for takeoff/landing performance calculation
The aircraft cannot weigh itself in the first place
@@marksmith8079 A340 is a 1990s design
@@tomstravels520 true! And if I remember correctly, ZFW must be entered manually?
Your channel is my favorite of all the crash breakdown channels, i love that it stays in the cockpit with clear voice overs. Such informative content.
One of the best lessons in aviation - no casualties. 👍
Can I just say how great these vids have become?
Yes, looks like I can!
Yeah, the production is really improving.
They should of went to toga if it didn't rotate and kept the nose down to gain speed. The tail strike happened from the f/o pulling to hard like it was going to ake a difference every pilot knows by looking at the flight director what will result in a tail strike this crew made very careless and very dangerous decisions I hope training allowed them to recognize problems and how to deal with them
It's not toga it's retard mode!!
Emirates fired the crew. Doubt the First Officer ( &captain) will fly anything other than freight from budget airline
Love the new content, keep it up. Glad I don't have to travel any time soon.
i fly business class when we crash and burn then i will something to complain about
I cant be the only one to think that his channel logo looks like the icon for zero in rainbow six siege
After going through your back catalog, I tried to find some other channel covering air accidents in this kind of way. I've found nothing, short of the ACI tv show, that comes even close to your storytelling, visual quality, and narration. Thank you for so thoughtfully covering all these incidents. We're grateful for you!
Really? You’ve found no other channel? The random panning to empty cgi seats in an empty cabin is certainly unique.Nice when your best mate leaves a comment.
Green Dot Aviation. Mentour Pilot. Disaster Breakdown. Mini Air Crash Investigation. And all without the cringe Straya accent.
@@GlennDavey bit harsh. It’s those American narrators that are much worse. Especially when the try “entertain” with jokes or with dramatic inflection
@@effkay3691 yeh nah I prefer that. If I wanted to listen to some bloke who just sounds like me I can talk to myself
My bad, admittedly this is what I get for trying to comment when I’m half asleep. I should’ve said among small channels, and Mentour completely slipped my mind (big oof). Big fan of Petter and both his channels it’s just been a little bit since I binged through all his investigations so it wasn’t top of mind. The team behind those are fantastic. I started watching Mini Air Crash Investigations and a couple other channels a while back but I didn’t connect with them as much. Not Mini ACI in particular but it felt like a some channels were more interested in sensationalism than learning from the accident.
every time i see one of your video coming out make me so happy
This was shambolic. It would be interesting to know whether the pilots were sanctioned. If not, I am sure they won't make that mistake again and I hope sterile conditions are brought in the moment they enter the flight deck as a result of this.
It was shambolic. But given that within the next decade, pilots would enter the takeoff temperatures incorrectly *three times* over the next decade. E.g. one of them accidentally entered -54c instead of what I believe should have been 24c, so the engines assumed they could be limited to 60% thrust - these pilots barely lifted off the runway, and then much more worryingly were only able to gain 800ft in altitude several miles after leaving the airport, before finally finding their mistake.
I'm not defending these pilots. But when this happens several times in a decade (and thankfully there were no fatalities), it's pretty clear there's something much deeper going on here?
I think the problem is that pilots see a digital system like this that *looks* so deeply integrated into the aircraft, and then they feel that they're getting all of the sanity checks, input verification, etc etc etc.
And thankfully these issues have now been improved by software updates. If you enter an insane temperature, I believe both companies have fixed this. The aircraft has sensorss for detecting the temperature where the plane is. Now it compares that to whatever value you entered. . I don't know the full details of these updates outside of the fuel temp, and whether they have similar protections for incorrect weight configurations. But given these have been patched to at least some degree.
So while these pilots had serious issues elsewhere - I seriously would also seriously think the above has a huge issue as well.
They were asked to resign the airline upon arrival in Dubai.
They resigned.
Assigning or apportioning blames never solve the problem.
Investigations are NOT to apportion blame!
They exist to modify procedures to avoid a reoccurrence.
Sanctioning crew is a great way to have further incidents, due to a disincentive to "come forward" with vital information.
Didn't a very similar incident happen to Emirates in Johannesburg? I remember reading that they "picked" two of the best locations they could have to make this mistake. If they had made this mistake in any number of other locations they wouldn't have been as lucky.
Fantastic video. Your skills on doing these videos has improved a lot.
Thank you for your detailed explanation of the event and what caused it!!!🙏👍🦉🛫
You do a really good job on these 👌🏼
Very smart analysis.
1st time,I've visited your site & am really enjoying it,so you now have another follower!
Please do West Coast Airlines flight 956. I've hiked to the wreckage many times and it's all still there, on the mountainside.
That plane was nearly at it's maximum take-off weight. Any decent pilot should have been alerted to an issue when the takeoff temperatures were limited.
What engines on this A340? The early ones were comically underpowered
@@toomanyuserids RR Trent-500
There is no underestimating human incompetence.
It was sheer luck that all on board didn't lose their lives.
Great video. Thank you!
The FMGS should read back the figures itself, and loudly. And ask, 'Are you sure?'
There’s no need if procedures are followed…..
Great video
There needs to be a point where an experienced flight crew goes beyond the mundane entering of data to then look at the completed picture holistically and asks, “Does this make sense?” Knowing the aircraft is close to full and will be traveling for that many hours, “common sense” should have kicked in when reviewing the de-rating value of the engines.
De-rating from Sydney to Melbourne, certainly. De-rating from Melbourne to Dubai, no chance in hell.
yeah, if pilot's workload is more like 1 flight in 3 days, then you can keep everything fresh. I lose focus at the end of a normal workday and even I feel that pilots work more and can easily lose focus. 15 hour shifts etc.. at some point you just wanna go through the motions and go home
Thankfully, not all the rules are written in blood.
I have an issue with the crew not noticing the slower take off speed while they knew they had a full load.
how you rockin with it baby? how u groovin on em?
This has happened before at Melbourne. A Singapore flight in the 80’s took off Rwy27 and left 600’ of furrows off the end of the runway. It was blamed on the Qantas Loadmaster understating the load by the equivalent of an F27. I had to tell the pilot what was found on the ground after departure en route to Singapore. They decided to continue on to Singapore, because that is their maintenance base. Rwy27 at Melbourne can never be extended, because there is a deep ravine off the end.
In their 3rd runway plans, they had another option for an East-West runway (Like runway 27) and a North-South runway. (Like runway 34). The up roar of going for another East West runway would have been deafening. So they've chosen plans for another North-South Runway.
Cant they just fill in the old quarry? I mean, those blokes are worth half a billion each.
@@Robochop-vz3qm off the end of 27 is Deep Creek, a 60’ ravine running N-S. A longer or a second Rwy27 was never on. The original plans from the 60s always included a second Rwy16-34. In the 80s a housing development was scotched on the south side of the airport, even after roads, kerbs and gutters had been constructed, due to “future planning”.
@@petergosney6433 thanks mate. Just watch the movie 'The Castle' 😁
@@Robochop-vz3qm ahh. Well, tell ‘im he’s dreamin’.
11:20 Error check - this is what the error check is supposed to reveal, discrepancies. So instead of investigating the discrepancy, he just manually overwrites the "2" with a "3". So why do the check???
Can't have the paperwork being wrong, can you! And maybe they need to directly upload from the laptop to the aircraft flight computer without letting a human being touch the data.
Very well done.
Good presentation. New subscriber here.
Great work! 👍🏼
And not a word from auxiliary crew
They were fired too
@@c8Lorraine1 really?? I didnt know. In all honesty I think that's way too harsh. They werent on the flight deck as check pilots.
With all the flight data on the flight computer including airport specs it's surprising such an error couldn't be flagged.
Interesting voiceovers lol
Thanks for the video though.
What I can’t understand is why the pilots didn’t pick up the low speed earlier, I mean honestly should the tail have to hit the ground for the Captain to react.
At least they didn't fly from India to the gulf and hope it didn't become news :-)! Rather scarey that the human factors didn't correct this error, shows even when being careful if you miss one small critical step it all falls apart. All in all though the crew managed the incident really well once it happened.
Emirates chose to focus on the reason for the tail strike and determined it was a student pilot rookie mistake made by professionals and fired the flight crew. Should have made them foot the bill for the plane and damage to ground.
Very good.
The bigger mistake is that it wasn't caught by the others.
The reason they were ALL fired by airline.
They returned to Dubai as passengers
The AUG pilots? I did wonder that too, but then I wondered about noise in the cockpit and distance from the pilots flying (Facing forwards) and the AUG pilots behind. Not to mention the fact, the AUG pilots werent check pilots, so who knows how much attention they were paying?
Great video content . Can you do the “Aviant Cargo “ MD11 , out of Shanghai Crash 💥, similar conditions as this . Thanks .
Manually transcribing data between two digital systems seems unnecessary and a chance for a lot of errors to creep in.
Also, rather than derating the engines, why not simply give the pilots a throttle position for takeoff? That way, they have a better chance of figuring out what is going on and can adjust power more easily.
@@rockmandokeeperofthestones70 If you drove your car at full throttle frequently it would break down a lot more. Also, full power was available to the pilots, but they never went for it because in their eyes (as a result of their errors) they felt it was unnecessary. Furthermore, if engine performance is not as expected, you stop the takeoff, its not guesswork. Planes also cannot stand at the beginning of every takeoff to test power because that would absolutely destroy most runways quite quickly. Lastly, the Trent 500 engines on the a340-500 can never achieve maximum power because they were derated from the factory because they did not need to be that powerful.
@@brsl1011
The pilots were fired once returned to Dubai
The final check is the closeness to the GUESSED weight figure…….within plus or minus 10-20 tonnes would be reasonable for any experienced crew………..right ?
I been flying with Emirates airlines since 1999 ❤ 19:28
I wonder what the results were for the Capt. and F/O ?
Fired
And no desert and dinner time.
They were asked to resign as soon as they got back to Dubai and did so. Pretty typical of Emirates - if something goes wrong their first reaction is to sack the crew which does nothing to foster a good, honest safety culture.
@@davebarclay4429 I agree. I worked with EK for 24yrs. They protected their own (locals) and fired anyone who made simple errors. The local pilot that crashed back into dubai from HYD, was given a very lucrative ground position and the Aussie FO forced to resign.
OMG I MISS YOUR VIDEOS!!
PLEASE COME BACK TO US
Worst air crust in he history of Australia, I lost it there 😂
As a Load Cell designer I know that the entire plane can be weighed before takeoff. It can also becaused to determine any Hard Landing...WHY IS THIS NOT USED?
Because you can have a hard landing regardless of weight, it is G force that is measured and used in inspection criteria post any suspected hard landing, and with good feedback from flight crew on VS at touchdown.
What difference would it make? The error was typing the weight into the laptop, not into the aircrafts FMGS
I wonder what the damage to the aircraft cost to repair.
Or the active crew flying's careers !
@@rockmandokeeperofthestones70 Wow, thanks for that!
@@rockmandokeeperofthestones70 IT WAS FLOWN TO FRANCE AND REPAIRED......
@@mallorieryan9573 IT WAS REPAIRED IN FRANCE. NOT SURE OF THE COST,
@@billythekid3234 OK, thanks Billy.
15:25 it’s good this , I’m just going for a jettison 😅
The sad truth became more apparent when all crew returned to their hotel (Hilton On the Park, now Pullman) to gather themselves and await further assistance. That 'assistance' turned out to be senior EK management based in Dubai, instructing all cabin crew that it is forbidden to contact anyone, be it family, friends or acquaintances via mobile phones, as all calls/messages will be traced. A pity when a company puts their staff at a distant 10th in priority. Both flight deck were immediately removed and disciplined upon arrival back in DXB.
Flight crew dismissed
they shouldn't be.
The standby flight crew were disciplined too??
THis is why I hae flying - surely an experienced pilot should know from experience that the TO speed and power seemed off.
Don't hate flying lol
Flying is the safest form of travel in fact you more likely to die in a car accident on the way to the airport.
This is just one of many EK incidents
Hey what is ops normal?
4:13 a little late, Cap!
edit: I'll bet those 4 smaller engines spool up faster than a similarly sized 2-engine. They're lucky if so.
One less passenger to worry about on Emirates airline for sure!!!🙏🤔😵💫✈️
Same incident SQ from akl to sin where B747 have tail drag before airborn .. 100,000 ton shot of takeoff weight calculated
Well... so 'the safest' mode of transportation is about as safe as hundreds if people possibly dying a horrific death.. due to casual people doing silly mistakes... while having near zero margin for error.
Emirates considered the issue a rookie mistake and relieved it didn’t result in casualties. Fired the crew and humiliated them by having them return to Dubai as economy class passengers
The 777 with 4 engines
I guess luckily for them (flight crew), after doing things wrong to get in the situation, they did everything right after it.
Not nearly enough for the airline who promptly dismissed them.
They returned to Dubai as passengers
thats a costly mistake
Not just financial cost to Emirates Airlines but cost the pilots their careers
when u get your sids and stars mixed up and its not in msfs so it actually counts.
I’m surprised the FMC would except that error with that much fuel on board?👨✈️
There is no direct correlation between the aircraft weight and the takeoff speeds because other factors can affect it
A) Most all large airplanes [since like the 60's] use oleo (oil+gas) struts to support their weight on the landing gear. A simple temperature & pressure reading from the struts would provide an estimated weight. It wouldn't be super accurate, but close enough to spot weight/balance issues that would affect Takeoff. More than a few incidents have been caused by weight/balance issues, and this would be a cheap and easy way to catch them.
B) If the plane's computer is given the weight and wind speed, it should be able to use input from the inertial guidance/accelerometers, air speed, and engine settings to check against the predicted acceleration. If the mismatch is greater than a predetermined percentage, it could set off a warning. This should be able to be implemented via just a software update for newer planes. It could even potentially catch more issues than just inaccurate weight, any problems causing poor acceleration that don't trigger existing alarms/sensors, would still set this off.
Only a fool blames his tools for his own stupidity
A) weight sensors were tested in aircraft before but after a few landings they became unreliable so wasn’t with the cost. Also you need to remember the crew calculated the correct weight and entered it correctly into the FMGS. It was typing that weight into the EFB that was wrong and if the crew had cross checked their green dot speeds as they were supposed to they would have noticed it was wrong.
B) The A350 has a takeoff monitoring capability. If the acceleration is not as expected then it warns the pilots about that
@tomstravels520
A1) Do you have any additional info about those tests? I'd be interested in researching it further. A simple solenoid valve to isolate the sensor from over-stress during landing would seem an obvious solution, so it makes me curious.
A2) Yes, their mistake, and any similar (incorrect info, loading mistakes, etc), are what the proposed system would be there to catch. Deeming a monitoring/alarm system unwarranted based on it not being needed if pilots do everything correctly would invalidate many of the existing ones already in use. No need for bank angle, stall, overspeed, etc, alarms if pilots do everything correctly every time. Unfortunately humans are pitiably fallible creatures, making such systems beneficial no matter the level of redundancy baked into proper procedure. As to if my particular proposal would ultimately be feasible or worthwhile... I'd need to research more to make any justifiable arguments. Only a proposed idea at the moment.
B) Interesting, thanks for the info! I'll see what I can find out about the system and its capabilities/requirements. 😊
TOW error. Cockpit distraction causes VMU less than VR and unattainable V2 speed.
@18:40, Distraction rather than Distration.
2:37 ahh, there's your problem. They were talking to a scam centre.
Wouldn't weight sensors (scales) inside the wheel struts make this whole weight & balance easier to check?
Firstly that was tested in the past and they were unreliable. Secondly the weight was correctly calculated and entered correctly into the aircrafts computer. It was typing into the EFB that was incorrect so having a weight sensor wouldn’t have made a difference
The accident might not have cost any lives but it should have cost a couple of jobs.
It did !
They returned to Dubai as passengers
And Emirates fired crew
👍
This is what happens when you don’t double-check what you typed in.
Flight crew found out the hard way.
They were fired by emirates
Why not directly download the data from the EFB laptop to the FGMS computer, without letting the humans mishandle the data unintentionally on its way between the two computers? And the augmenting pilots aren't self-loading cargo - surely they were supposed to be paying attention to the details of what would eventually become their aircraft, and at least one of them heard the '262.9 tonnes' and had the thought that the value was way too light for such a long flight.
Yep, and the crew were fired for not noticing the difference
Because if your laptop or tablet has a bug or virus and then you plug into the aircraft systems…….not a good idea. That’s why EFB’s that are built into the aircraft like 787 can do that but external ones using iPads can’t
Check! ✔
Humble prop pilot here but those flying heavy iron should observe sterile cockpit from their entry to that environment in my humble opinion if the engines are turning enough said
Melbourne is NOT pronounced Melborn, it’s Melburn.
no melbin
Loves
Then spell it properly
Is that xplane11???
Yes
That is BY FAR the worst attempt at an Australian accent I’ve ever heard.
While operating 747/300 at Johannesburg International Airport, another Emeràt
Sorry, never finished,but I was operating a SAA 747/300, and we lined up on Runway 19R at Johannesburg International Airport, and a Emirates Airbus A 340 was ahead, and taking Off. It also had not done correct Take Off data, and took forever to get airborne to and also took out the approach Lights of 03L, and had to dump fuel and return.
I also later operated A 340's and was certainly not impressed, because I had problems, that not ever Airbus Factory in France Could sort it out.
I eventually Left SAA, and returned to operating 747/300's by all over the World, which was the safest Aircraft ever Built.
Also I noticed, that when operating A340, how Pilots loosing their Skills, and these computerized Aircraft, are know, creating more accidents in today's World per Hours flown worldwide
Sorry, never finished,but I was operating a SAA 747/300, and we lined up on Runway 19R at Johannesburg International Airport, and a Emirates Airbus A 340 was ahead, and taking Off. It also had not done correct Take Off data, and took forever to get airborne to and also took out the approach Lights of 03L, and had to dump fuel and return.
I also later operated A 340's and was certainly not impressed, because I had problems, that not ever Airbus Factory in France Could sort it out.
I eventually Left SAA, and returned to operating 747/300's by all over the World, which was the safest Aircraft ever Built.
Also I noticed, that when operating A340, how Pilots loosing their Skills, and these computerized Aircraft, are know, creating more accidents in today's World per Hours flown worldwide
They got lucky...more damage could have occurred.
And Emirates knows.
The reason why they fired the crew.
They returned to Dubai as passengers
Interesting story but the narration leave room for improvement
BEAVIS: "emirates confirm ops normal" ........
BUTTHEAD: " uhhhh....negative 407" lol
Pilots were forced to resign when they arrived back in Dubai
Really?
Anyone else see a darker screen video or maybe my computer.
blunder down under
What crock!!!
This is not acceptable.
The crew was fired
the accents are nearly as bad as the errors made by the flight crew
Not enough thrust mean, two things wrong. Mechanical failure or wrong calculation of the data enter in FMG.
@5:40 not 100 000 kilos, rather 1000 kilos.
Yes 100,000 k. Or 100 tonnes. With long range transport aircraft of this nature maximum fuel load can exceed the empty weight of the aircraft itself. A 1 tonne discrepancy would not have the performance effect seen with this incident.
@@johnyoung1128 Sorry, you are right. My bad.
@@Berghiker You don’t have to apologise, two errors were mentioned of which only one was corrected, one of 1000 kg that was corrected and the one that caused the problem of 100,000 kg that wasn’t.
Emirates has the best pilots in the world. Are you sure it was them ?
To be fair, the A340 has *really bad* takeoff performance.
The -200/-300 do, this was a -500 with much more powerful engines
Nope, can't do it. Can't listen to this guys voice any longer. 6 minutes and I'm done. Thought this would be as good as green dot aviation. How wrong was I....
Sounds like 2 incompetent pilots. First not picking up on the input error. Then it must have been glaringly obvious during the take-off roll the aircraft was sluggish, so the captain should have selected toga much earlier.
What was she doing out of the galley?
Making mistakes, panicking as soon as their effect became apparent, then, finding the subsequent process step wouldn't work, rather than troubleshoot, just kept pulling her sidestick further back, causing a whole new problem once the captain corrected her first.
Double standards are unfair to the other flight crew and all the souls on board and at risk, but be thankful that they allow employers to suppress wages.
That is a case of being “penny wise and pound foolish”. In an attempt to save a few pennies on engine maintenance by limiting thrust they caused, how much and damage to the airport and the tail of the airplane? A small fortune I am sure.
My advice, if this airline cannot afford to pay its bills to the point that it has to cut corners like this then perhaps they should sell their aircraft, buy a fleet of garbage trucks, and start hauling trash instead of people. Get into the business for which you are best suited!
All airlines do this, one aircraft on one day one one flight might not seem much, now multiply this by how many flights a day it does multiply by a year then multiply the amount of aircraft you have.....it's a massive saving.
Doing a breakdown on gender disasters is absolutely iconic. I am so pleased to find out that you're trans as well! I've always gravitated to your breakdown series because of your insights and depth of research but this is just the icing on the cake. Happy pride from Sydney 💜
100 tons is NOT a minor Mistake on the FO's part it is a 27.5% difference. I don't know her Flight Experience and her Famerility with either the EFB software the planes NORMAL TO WEIGHT.or even the abnormal V Speeds calculated because of a 100 ton mistake. Even the Captain should have suspected something was amiss. A non fully loaded Airbus on a 14 hour flight would have such low V speeds.
These pilots also flew the much lighter A330 so could get used to all sorts of numbers
Crew was dismissed.
Returned to Dubai as passengers.
I need to know that those two "pilots" never set foot on a flight deck ever again!
why?
@@tchevrier Did you not watch the video? They were almost responsible for the deaths of around 250 people. That's not something you should ever get a second chance at.
@@-EC002- lol. That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is that it was a learning experience. You can almost guarantee they won't make that mistake again.
Not likely with the same airline. But who knows. Seeing 74 in the flex temp should've raised a red flag then and there from any experienced crew member. On TO roll, seeing the N1 derate target on the EICAS screen should've also made the PM question the TO. These are numbers they would've seen on every predeparture and takeoff and knew they were loaded heavy with fuel and payload.
Emirates fired the crew.
They didn’t fly home, they returned as passengers
Maybe they can fly freight for another airline.
Not harsh when Emirates considers itself a premier airline.
You repeat yourself a lot