The Most Underrated Couple on Gilmore Girls
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- čas přidán 12. 06. 2024
- Madeline and Louise are really fun side characters on Gilmore Girls but I don't think they get talked about as often. I feel like they deserve some love so I made a video about them. Some of my theories about them may be way off, but it's just my interpretation. I respect everyone's counterpoints on these two. I would love to know what others think!
Timestamps
00:00 Intro
1:26 Madeline Lynn
5:33 Louise Grant
9:42 Where Are They Now?
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Gilmore Girls
Madeline Lynn
Louise Grant
Paris Geller
Madeline and Louise - Zábava
I’ve never thought of Madeline as neurodivergent but now that you say it makes sense! I always felt she saw the world differently from everyone else and through sweet rose colored glasses.
It’s actually what makes her and Louise such a good yin and yang, as you mentioned, Louise sees the world through a much darker lens.
I think Madeline provides Louise with an optimism and positivity that she craves, along with a loyalty and genuineness that is missing in her home life.
Wow, that actually just clicked for me; Madeline's optimism matches really well with Louise's cynicism. Thank you for that lightbulb moment!
I highly doubt she's neurodivergent
This makes me sad that Lane was never incorporated into the Chilton girl gang because I feel like her, Madeline, Louise and even Paris's combined personalities would've really complemented each other, even more so than Rory
I like to think that she was there off screen, I mean in the episodes where she lives at Yale she seems to be very familiar with Paris, also the episode when they along with Rory get drunk lol.
I feel like it’s pretty sad that Rory could archive going to Yale or even chilton, because she was privileged, and Lane couldn’t, because she hadn’t.
This is great. I loved these characters. I wish we got more Madeline And Louise instead of Lucy and Olivia.
Thank you! Agreed, I think Lucy and Olivia are actually on a list somewhere for the most tragically underdeveloped characters on Gilmore Girls.
literally they were so random and I really missed mad and louise
Lucy and Olivia were so annoying.
I had to google Lucy and Olivia. Completely forgot about them.
Preach
Louise's voice is ASMR
Hahaha, you're so right. I like her voice a lot.
Louise is very aware that her mother is a gold digger. She knows that’s her key to success is not school. Louise sees school as necessary to finding her Prince Charming. Madeline’s mother also married well. Her stepfather had that dope house and allowed her to throw a party while he was out of town. Paris, Louise and Madeline all have a disdain for their mother’s lifestyle. Louise’s mother seems to be having an affair because she realized her husband could go to prison. If u all recall at graduation Louise did several courtesy invites to her several stepmothers. They all showed up. Louise sees relationships as a means to an end that has nothing to do with love. I think her father taught her that as well. Which why he had so many women in his daughter’s life. I was very sad when Madeline Louise or Tristan didn’t make a real appearance on Netflix.
Oh, I missed Louise's invitations! Thank you for pointing that out!
I do wish we saw them later on in the seasons because I really liked they're group dynamic
Madeline and Louise are the most underrated Gilmore Girls characters ever, way better than unlikable characters like Christopher, Sherry, Gigi, Mitch and Triston. They, Paris and Rory made such a lovely group of besties and Madeline and Louise always brought some light relief when Rory and Paris took things more seriously. It's such a shame they never returned after the Spring break episode in season 4, Lucy and Olivia in season 7 were just Madeline and Louise replacements and weren't as memorable!
Totally agree about lucy and Olivia I couldn't stand them
What was wrong with Gigi?
@user-re8du6sf5b She was a bratt and was Christopher's replacement daughter for Rory, he clearly prioritised her over Rory. Plus Paris and Lane were more Rory's sisters than Gigi ever was!
I was always reminded of the 'holy trinity' on glee, Santana, Quinn, and Brittney, whenever is saw Paris with Madilyn and Louise. And secret lesbian vibes like Brittney and Santana for them or at least hoped lol ❤
omg they are so santana, quinn and britney, thanks for that eye-opening observation
I like that both of them are not judgy, you never seem them mocking Brad for example, just maybe Louise teasing him in a funny way.
In the rewatch i wanted louise and Madeline to be a couple. They have such interesting chemistry. Its also important to notice that its from rorys pov, so thats why they are onedimemsional. Firstly, they arent a threat to her academically as well as to paris and secondly, just two people she knew in high school, so she wouldnt remember their characteristics.
The show was definitely missing something when they were gone
Yeah, I wish we got a few more appearances from them in the later seasons.
I really wish we would've gotten to see them again in A Year in the Life during the episode when they go back to Chilton, I mean if Francie can be there why not Madeline and Louise.
I always wished they would’ve kept Madeline and Louise around through Rory’s college years instead of her Yale friends. They would’ve had an incredibly entertaining dynamic with Logan and his friends.
I know what you mean. If I could have it my way, I would have had either Madeline or Louise start dating someone from Logan's crew and so the girls would keep popping up on the show because of it.
Louise is a great true friend to Paris. I love when they meet on the beach and she tells Paris that she can see skin because that line could have been mocking of Paris's sun protection but she made it in a way where you can see it is care for what she knows to be important to Paris rather than making fun of it.
Paris also underestimates Louise's care for her both there by saying "were we really friends at one point" as well as when she is getting ready for her date and tells Rory Louise and Madeleine would tease her and not be helpful. I really believe Louise would do anything for Paris. And I do mean anything, she is totally the one to call to get rid of a body.
I thought Madeleine looked like Betty Boop with that haircut she had. I really loved Louise also, she was very observant and unapologetic. You are spot on with their characters.
Thank you! I also thought that Madeline's haircut was reminiscent of Betty Boop.
I'd never noticed that scene of her rocking and plugging her ears, both of which look like attempts to self soothe
Yeah, that was the scene that led me to my theory that she might be neurodivergent. I saw a Reddit post once talking about Madeline and in the post, the person said that they didn't like Madeline because they felt she was annoying, specifically, the scene where she can't handle the word "blood." When I went back and watched that scene, it made me really sad for Madeline. I didn't see a character that was overreacting, I saw a character that was struggling.
I love those girls I wish they had been around in S5 and met Colin and Finn
Louise was actually really smart. Her grades were only slightly less than Paris’s. Madeline had lower, but still good, grades.
this was a really smart and thoughtful analysis, after many years of watching the show, i never thought that deeply about these important and lovable characters. thank you!
Thank you! I didn't really reflect on these characters until I decided to analyze them, it's really fun to see what kinds of thoughts come up when you're hyper focused on just 1 or 2 characters.
This is so great. I’ve always loved Madeline and her style/hair. She was always so sweet and I hated how they made her seem more dumb than she was 🩵
She was very sweet! I actually didn't notice it as much until I was watching just her scenes. She was super kind. I wish we got more of her sweetness in the later seasons.
Such a good video! Honestly I would've loved to have friends like Madeline and Louise when I was in high school
Thank you :) To add to your point, I would have also loved to have friends like them in college, I think they really know how to party.
Its a friendship based on history.
Yeah, their friendship does sound as something that begun when they were kids and just stuck together into high school.
I feel like Madaline and Louise were the female version of Finn and Colin. I wish they could have met and been couples. Wierd i know but, to me, if they had been paired i feel like it would make sense. Maybe I'm wrong but they were Logan's friends and the girls were Rory's friends (Paris went with Doyle the odd one out like how Rory was the odd one out in group). Maybe I'm crazy but in a different life, Madaline and Louise dated Finn and Colin. I'd watch it 🤷🏼♀️
I said the same thing in my Colin and Finn video. 🙃
@@PensiveWhiskers I watched this video before I watched your other video 😁🤷🏼♀️
Oh yes, of course, I hope my comment didn't come off sounding like I was expecting you to watch any of my other videos. I wanted to say that I am 1000% in agreement with you there! 😄 I would have loved to see Colin and Finn with Madeline and Louise. That should have been a spinoff.
@@PensiveWhiskers you're fine ☺ I would definitely love a spinoff of them. 😊
I love Madeline and Louise so much. They were such fun characters
This is a really clever, thoughtful piece. Would love more Gilmore Girls takes if you make any :)
Thank you :) I have another one on its way! I decided to cover a much bigger relationship on the show so it ended up being much longer than I anticipated. 😅Currently working on paring it down.
What struck me about Madelyne is that she reads instructions carefully so as not to miss anything
Yes! I took that to mean that she really tries and really cares about school
Loved this video! Louise is one of my favorite characters, and it’s ashame that she and Madeline weren’t really included in later seasons 🙄
Thank you ☺I loved Louise too! It really is such a shame those two were missing later on. I just like to imagine they were living their best lives while Rory was going through her college years. Their lives were so epic that they had no time to come back to Connecticut.
I fell in love with Louise but I can’t find anything about her she must be living a LIFE ✨
I love how you describe these characters!
Thank you! I know some of the assumptions are a little outside of the box so I am open to other interpretations.
You provide wonderful speculative insight/ contemplative analysis. I love how you included clips too. I love you, beautiful soul
❤Thank You! You are a beautiful soul as well! I cherish every single person who partakes in the fandom with me. Interacting with people and getting their thoughts has been the most satisfying part of this journey. Please don't hesitate to disagree or provide any critiques to my ideas or videos!
Finally.. someone that realizes the value both of these girls bought to the show
That's what I'm here for! Talking about the underdiscussed characters and topics. 🙂
As a nd person myself I totally see Madeline being nd. It reminds me of how I was disregarded as stupid by almost everyone in school despite having scores higher that those of the straight a students in our class on exams and constantly expressing my opinions in class just because I couldn't keep up with the daily demands like homework (hi adhd) and communicating with people (hi autism) and always needed a bit more time to understand a new concept when everyone else was for example solving a new kind of math problems the day we were tought how to do that
I'm sorry you had to experience that. 🥺I was feeling unsure about my hypothesis. It's such a relief knowing that I'm not way off and I'm not being offensive. I feel like Madeline deserved more credit for being intelligent but different.
Love this analysis
Madeline totally gives neurodivergent, completely agree 🌻
Phew! I'm glad I'm not alone, I was afraid I was going too far outside the box in my analysis.
Loved your analysis of Madeline. I never thought about her being neurodivergent - what a cool take. I loved Madeline because, as you said, she was always nice.
this video has made me love them even more!
also the part where you mention madeline being neurodivergent is interesting and i think it makes sense. but then could it just be that she's an ENFP??
She could be for sure. Honestly, it was a bit of an out there theory; the thought just popped into my head when I watched her scenes multiple times but it totally could be a personality type.
@PensiveWhiskers I don't think it's that weird of a theory because this show as a whole is exceptionally neurodivergent. In partucular, I think Rory, Lorelai, Sookie, and Lane all have ADHD as well as probably Christopher and maybe some others, I think we'll Paris and April are both girls who are both autistic and have ADHD (or as people in the community say, they are AuDHD). I have an autistic friend who swears Luke seems autistic to her too. And I absolutely see some autism in Kirk and in Madeline. The creator of the show likely is an ADHDer herself and is surrounded by neurodivergence and doesn't necessarily realize what she's doing when she writes it so fully into all the characters. Heck now that I'm saying all this, even Jackson's obsession with fruits and vegetables veers into autistic special interest territory or something. Taylor's lack of social skills... you could argue this show has more characters one could read autism into than most if you wanted to find it. I, as an ADHDer, mostly just see all the ADHD. But if I remember to look for it I see the autism too throughout the show. And that's fun too because I also have a lot of autistic friends and really get that side of the show as well.
My headcanon of Madeline is certainly forever changed by your analysis here in this video so thank you for that! I love it!
This is such a good video. I keep rewatching gilmore girls in loop at netflix forever (i probably watched everything like 30 times at this points, im not joking, i know all of the lines of some episodes), and still, you made some really good points about the girls that i still havent realized.
Great video! I agree with what you said about their friendship at the end.
I wish they had kept more of them on the show
This is fantastic. Love your theories. 👍👍😁
This was maybe my favorite vid of yours so far because i really hadn't noticed at least half of this stuff and hadn't thought about most of it at all and i loved every single second of this analysis. Very thought provoking and i think it'll all be very memorable and affect my thoughts on them going forward as a fan of the series. :)
Btw i did assume from the title that you were going to root for them as "a couple" which i thought meant romantic. People don't really can platonic pairs/duos "couples" usually. But i would've been all here for that too! 😊 They certainly were a very close friendship bond.
i loved this video!!
Thank you! I was thinking of doing a mini video series on some of the smaller characters on Gilmore Girls. I wasn't sure if other people enjoy smaller characters as much as I do. Now I think I will. 🙂
I really liked Madeline and louise it sucks that they were written out of the show because it would had been great to seen them grow more as characters
I felt that Madeline and Louise could play some part in AYITL spin-off. I have three theories about how they have ended up: A) they have never left spring break and are still on their 30's making out with each other and looking for the hottest daily club 🤣 B) Louise becomes a DJ and Madeline her manager and they travel around to those cheesy frat parties C) both became drug dealers and have lots of encounters with the law.
I LOVE the idea of them co-parenting!!!!!!
yeah they were best freinds
Pls i need one on gossip girl’s Nelly Yuki and Penelope
I sadly did not watch Gossip Girl :( but I can do other early 2000's shows that I've watched.
hot take- they're an actual couple
I missed these two... I think it's crap they had these appearances in season 4 and then nothing.
Yeah, I think they would have fit in really well into season 6's plotline, after Rory dropped out of Yale. Actually, it would have been fun to see them once every season until the end. I'm happy we got to see them again in season 4.
Yep louise family basically neglected her
I'm autistic and think Madeline is ND.
Both of these characters were annoying when the series originally aired and even more annoying each of the times I've researched the series. Anyone that dumbs themselves down just to not look smart isn't worth much. Make especially wouldn't have been a "popular" girl in highschool, that's for sure! Louise is shallow and had little to offer in way of conversation, ever! Could've done with either of them.
Thier friends they can stay that way omg y'all gays try to ruin everything huh?
Oh I'm totally not implying that they're gay, just that they are a cute platonic couple.
even if they were saying that they r gay then what’s wrong with that 💀💀