Why is Rory Friends with Paris?
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- This is a video about Rory Gilmore's relationship with Paris Geller on Gilmore Girls. Paris and Rory start off as rivals in high school. Paris starts off hating Rory because of her grades and because of Tristin. By the time Paris and Rory get to college, they become lukewarm friends.
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
0:13 Season 1
6:19 Season 2
10:13 Season 3
15:57 Season 4
20:14 Season 5
22:38 Season 6
28:48 Season 7 - Zábava
I always thought it was kind of silly for Paris to be so rude to Rory from the start. There was no reason for Paris to see her as an academic rival. When she first arrived Rory was not doing well in school at all. She was late for school, missed a test and spent a ton of time mired in boyfriend drama. How did she even manage to surpass the other students to be valedictorian anyway? They had all been functioning at a higher level for a year before she even turned up.
I always found that implausible, like becoming editor of the Yale Daily News 'accidently'. The other students who were there the whole time would be vying for it
However unrealistic Paris' early antagonisation of Rory *seems*, I can't subjectively call it unrealistic, as I too, had my own "Paris" way back when. The bully turned friend, turned bully, turned civil... My family moved to another country, but I could honestly have seen us being friends or at least friendly, if we'd stayed lol! Some people just have zero social skills, but are okay on the inside despite it 😂
I know where you’re coming from. I struggled with the same thing when I was trying to analyze their relationship in season 1. Paris’ hatred is over simplified and it creates a little bit of a cartoon villain scenario.
Not entirely true. Paris gets hold of Rory's old grades and finds out she wants to be a journalist and has a 4.0
Coming from expérience i would say it is because rory had stuff paris didnt have (she is seen soft vs paris who is seen rough).
In my highschool i had girls who hated on my for no reason at all, i barely spoke to them. Could be either because of jealousy, competition or whatever. Let me tell you girls can be mean all the time, specially during teenage years.
I'm convinced Paris had a big ass crush on Rory (and with time, maybe more) but never acknowledged it nor knew how to deal with it, so she acted how she did.
Agreed
have you ever seen the tweet where it's like "when i was 7 i had a crush on this girl and didn't know how to act so i told her to get out of my school"
bc that's paris
"I don't feel like the writers treated Paris like a fully developed complex character; they used Paris when they needed her." When you said this, it captured my main problem with the show, because this doesn't just apply to Paris. I love Gilmore Girls, but the main flaw I've noticed over the years is that the writers often had both main and minor characters do things as you said, "for comedy or for drama," without really thinking through why the character would do what they did. The biggest example of this is Rory stealing a yacht. Even though Rory is heartbroken and feels like a failure in that moment, it took years of mental gymnastics for me to reconcile the fact that Rory's reaction to that would be to commit a crime. There is also Luke "using April to push Lorelei away." Everything we had seen so far indicated that Luke wanted Lorelei in his life, and while he would be shocked at first, it didn't make sense for him to not want to share this with Lorelei. I'm sure rationale can be found by fans with headcanons and mental gymnastics, but when it's so unclear in the show, I feel like it's because the writers don't know themselves. ASP and DP seem like the sort of writers who will have their characters do something because it's, again, interesting, funny, or dramatic, without taking the time to think about why the person would actually do that. It's true for Rory, Paris, Luke, Lorelei, and countless others.
Great video. I love Paris and Rory as friends, but Rory put up with a lot, and fans tend to take Paris's side and villainize Rory, like she doesn't appreciate Paris, which is unfair. You made a lot of good points about the ways Rory goes out of her way for Paris, and why after years of friendship, Rory might still be reluctant to claim that she and Paris are best friends. I didn't realize how Paris almost bullied Rory into being her friend until you pointed it out. Again, great video. Stay safe.
Yes! Some decisions do require some retcon and mental gymnastics. I don't think the show is always conducive to analysis. 😅 Which means my theories and analysis involve some stretches of the imagination.
You do a very good job of it.@@PensiveWhiskers
Rory has s rebellious streak. Makes a lot of sense considering everything
It made sense because Rory gravitates towards a certain type: domineering, overdramatic extroverts with a tragic backstory who don't respect boundaries, challenge Rory and use her to ground themselves - like Lane, Jess, Logan, even Emily at certain points and, most importantly, Lorelai. To me, Paris is who Lorelai would've become had she never gotten pregnant. Even Paris's codependency and constant turning to Rory whenever entering a bad relationship mirrors Lorelai's behaviour. It's why Rory forgives her even when she probably shouldn't and plays the supportive role, even more so than for strategic reasons: it's what she's always done with her own mother.
As for Paris, she's drawn to Rory for the same reason she bullies her = she's attracted to the freedom and support she perceives Rory has and wonders "what if" everytime she looks at her, as in "what if I had been raised like Rory, would I be less crazy and more well liked (especially by boys)?" Lorelai had the same "what if?" look on her face when she took Rory to view colleges, the "what if I hadn't gotten pregnant, would I have lived the life Rory is living now?" It's also why she becomes dependent on her to become the person she would've been, and it works, Rory's friendship does iron out a lot of her flaws
Lane is domineering and overdramatic?
@radhiadeedou8286. Yeah, she's overdramatic and domineering at times. There were moments where she steamrolled over both Rory and Lorelai to get what she wanted at their expense. But of the people on the list, Lane is the exception in that she's the one person Rory doesn't grarvitate towards, I just didn't want to exclude her. Considering that Rory is moving to another school in the very first episode, I think Lane is the one person she actively pulled away from
Jess is a dramatic extrovert? Whuch show did you watch😂
@deathstar71 He's overdramatic, yes, and too confrontational imo to be considered an introvert, so yeah, though the ambivert category probably suits him better
This is a straight-on-point analysis! After reading your first sentence I immediately thought about Lorelay! You are so correct! I have seen this behavior (Rory's) in real life as well. Once you are raised to be the moral/emotional support for a close family member, you are bound to repeat the same pattern with everyone you meet in life. Kind of like a people-pleaser. Rory did what she needed to survive a childish, emotionally needy mother and later on childish people around her. When they criticized Rory for her bad behavior, it was most of the time with the metric of criticizing a grown-up. They relied on her but expected full responsible behavior from Rory.
Their friendship feels so natural, people in real life take time to become friends. Rory could see the good in Paris and how insecure she was deep down. Paris was Rory's true friend more than Madeline and Louise always being there for her and giving her the best advice!
one thing that will forever irk me is if The Puffs was supposedly a storied, legendary (sorority) of lore, it was cheap writing that all of a sudden it gets 'busted' because reasons 🕯
Yes 🙌, that bothered me too. The Puffs were kind of like the Life & Death Brigade; they appeared and disappeared in one episode. The show build them up and made them seem important but then they destroyed the premise by the end.
I agree with all what you said. I think that this friendship is plausible. Rory is a Bjorn Borg to Paris as she said herself, Paris is the only one who is obsessed with academics, who has the same ambition like Rory does. They have a lot in common. Sometimes I’m wondering if Paris is not the aggressive side of Rory, what Rory doesn’t want to show, and Rory is what Paris could have been if she was not so paranoid and insane sometimes.
Very good video!!
I like the comparison that you made between Rory and Paris; they are similar while also having polar opposite personality traits. Paris is very much a foil to Rory because of it.
@@PensiveWhiskers You’re right!
I think your analysis is great because you break down the characters as what they are: characters in a story.
I can get frustrated in TV and movie discussion spaces because of the tendency for fans and viewers to analyze them as real people, and will especially analyze them with their own motivations and personal history as the frame of reference.
That dosent work because these characters dont exist outside of what the writers intention for them was - and writers do keep secrets from the audience because good characters keep secrets. I think theae videos do so well because you unearth these based solely on what the writers have shown us, which is how you argue a thesis, ans you do it very well.
Thank you! ☺️ I do think that I sometimes assign motivations and feelings unto characters but I am trying to be more aware of it. I do want to spend more time considering what the purpose or function is of a particular character within the show rather than the thoughts of the character.
Sometimes you would think Paris was actually in love with Rory. That would have been so interesting if they made it canon
Cliché and boring
I think we can see from the spring break episode that Paris and Rory have a lot of chemistry together. It's clear that they like a lot of the same things and have a lot of the same banter. While that they do clash earlier in the show, increasingly over time, despite Paris's volatility, they still get along and they are still there for each other. Paris compliments Rory and that she is the things that Rory is not. She is a gritty hard worker who is ultimately successful in her goals.
@@radhiadeedou8286not for the early 2000s
The show almost gives that impression, with the parallels between Paris and Tristin and Paris’ strong attachment. Given the time the show was released, they would have trouble depicting romantic love between the two.
@@PensiveWhiskers Yeah, exactly. They couldn't have made that a part of the show at the time it was made. I mean, they couldn't even say that Michel was gay until the revival. Not to mention a protagonist. So it just shows how fast times have changed since then.
This is definitely a fascinating relationship to watch. I find the ups and downs very interesting, and I think these characters needed each other in the end. I'm loving the Paris content lately!
There will likely be one more Paris video before I move on. 😁
As someone who has trust issues I can understand Paris a little bit. Like Paris I assume the worst in people, but I’m not mean to people like Paris .
She attacks before she can even know if there's any danger, I think she's also not so good socially when it comes to making friends, but at the end she really does care about rory and can feel comfortable with her company. I dont she's mean bc she doesn't trust people but because that's just her personality, it doesn't feel like she's being intentionally mean or meaning to say hurtful stuff, she wants to say maybe something true but chooses really hard words and doesn't have a filter, like when she says that valedictorians tend to fail in life, I didn't saw it as her trying to make rory feel bad for some reason, she wants to keep it real but is kinda harsh about it. I kinda get it bc I often dont realise that sometimes I make some people uncomfortable when I over share without knowing them that long
paris is my favourite of rory's boyfriends idc
no but on the real... a very short summary of your video is simply "paris grew up" because she did. from s1 to s7 she was, what? 15 to 22? she's still young and she grew as she got older. you can say what you want and it seems like you have a somewhat inherent bias against her in this video, but her getting progressively nicer and more open and less neurotic (regarding rory) from s3 onward is Growth. she was well written. she didn't regress or go backwards or become WORSE as the seasons went on, like rory did. idk man, she was so fun to watch and seeing their friendship blossom was one of the best parts of the show
I think Paris was just supposed to be the "school bully" at first, but then the audience (a.k.a. WE) liked Paris so much that the writer(s) kinda changed her character a bit and changed direction for her character--@ least, I THINK that's what I heard a while ago . . . 🤔
I watch many vids on Gilmore Girls but yours are always my fave
Thank you so much! ☺ I will try to maintain the quality.
Mine too. Pensive whiskers is thoughtful and considerate in her analysis rather than opining in a whiney way.
I really appreciate this analysis. I don't understand why so many people are now saying that Rory was a terrible friend to Paris and that she as a friend was always terrible. It took Rory so much time to accept Paris as a Friend because I believe she was so confused by the fact that Paris was always changing her mind about her and also Paris began being so abusive. And being around Paris really was a lot, I believe Rory was so patient and understanding and that their relationship grew over time. I totally agree with what you said about people only saying Paris was a good friend by remembering just season 6, but it took A LOT to get there. The last part of your analysis, for me, was the best and it sums up the problem with Gilmore Girl's writing, sometimes it felt like the writers didn't know their own characters and they just had them over for specific purposes without giving anyone the chance to grow. Happened with Lindsay, with Marty and with so many others, it sometimes felt like they were frozen in time and just appeared out of nowhere as plot devices with changes that weren't just like natural changes as we as people grow, they were just something completely different.
On your last few points: yup! I feel the same way about the writing. I don't want to criticize the show and say it's poor writing because there were probably good reasons for their choices. It just makes the show less suited for me in some aspects.
I always hated how throughout the whole show Rory constantly denies even being friends with Paris to everyone except Paris
She never really considered her a friend or liked her. Rory is a push over and needs everyone to like her
Why would Rory consider Paris her best friend. Who said she had to say it. Paris did name her high school experience hell and constantly bullied her then play the victim when she don't get her way.
@@radhiadeedou8286Paris tired way to hard and bullied Rory.
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Yay! I love when that happens with CZcams channels I watch. 😊
Please do a video soon on Christopher or April!
I would love a video on Christopher.
Yes please, I would love to watch this video
Good idea
Paris really evolved during the seasons, culminating in season 7.
i love all ur videos so much ;;; never commented but ive watched all ur gilmore girls content and its so refreshing to see paris content !!!! along with ur video on babette and ms patty - it’s very clear ur videos are passion projects and theyre always such a delight to watch >_< currently binging buffy just so i can hear ur commentary on it ! cant wait, keep up the good work !!!!!!
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Thank you! ☺ I think I recorded this video at an odd time so my voice is raspier than usual. 😂 I'm really happy you are enjoying the videos.
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The start of the relationship may have been more like a trauma-bonding from Paris side. The obsession she had with Rory. But later I see it more like she got from Rory what she missed from her parents. And she clings to Rory. I also noticed now for the first time that they have the same hair length all seasons. We all know Rory cut her hair short to mimic Dean's wife. So this means, Paris copied Rory. Maybe Rory was indeed the only source of support and positivity (and some equilibria in her chaotic mind) that's why she stuck to Rory and never let her go. But the moment she felt like Rory was no longer providing all the things she needed, she quickly dropped her (whenever she attacked her or when she threw her things in the hallway). Paris needed parenting, support and therapy! Things Rory was not responsible for at all!
I never noticed the haircut parallels! Very interesting 🤔
it's interesting to see the amount of ppl who shit on paris for how she treated rory in season 1 (which is valid, even though she is simply a teenage girl who's threatened and did eventually grow) but will woobify tristin for treating rory how he did simply bc he had a crush on her.
At this point in my life i don't understand why rory would be nice to paris and becomes friends with her after being so mean and hurtful to her while in high school i wouldn't had done that at all i think the writers kept the character paris around throughout the series is because of how great the actress who plays her is you are right rory doesn't see paris as a best friend in the beginning but over time they do form a true friendship even though at times it's rocky
Yeah, but does rory even enjoy having paris around or is she just used to her? I think at some point paris kinda needs rory to be her friend but rory doesn't really care about paris the way you care about a friend, it's kinda similar to those friendships one has during high school just so you can sit next to someone on free time and to not spend time alone in class, but you two have nothing in common or a real bond, and if you were not seeing each other every day neither would make an effort to hang out. Idk, I love paris and she's so much fun to watch but nothing about her friendship with rory is really that important, at least with lane, rory can speak about stuff in her life but there's not a lot about rory and paris that stands out
@@SnapeArgentoThat’s generally been my impression of Rory’s feelings. It feels like Rory got used to Paris and developed a comfort around her but it’s not a friendship that is born out of a desire to connect with Paris.
@@PensiveWhiskersit’s definitely that Paris pushed her academically and gave her passive ways to improve her university application. As silly as it was for Rory not to know about extracurriculars, Paris tells her… and then continues to get her into these activities without much effort on Rory’s part, think vice president and volunteering and such. There’s a whole episode about how uninvolved Rory is, and Paris is the perfect fix for it. And Paris comes to her!
She gives Rory what she needs when she goes to a whole new school environment and actively encourages(forces) her to up her game to get into Harvard! Rory got the slap in the face that she wasn’t currently cut out for what an application needed, but just staying tentative friends with Paris could get her there. Makes total sense she would use it to her advantage, not just to get Paris off her back. I mean that’s the whole reason Paris’ other “friends” stuck around.
It was sweet that Paris did Paris to get the doctors to tell her what happens to tell Rory about Logan after Rory told her what happened not many friends would do that even if Paris didn’t like Logan for Rory but respected Rory relationship like Rory did for her and Asher
Hi I am just a complete fan of Gilmore girls and I love your videos
Hi! Thank you so much! I'm happy you're enjoying them. :)
Paris throwing Rory out was illegal. As a want to be lawyer, Paris never should have done that. Not to mention wth does being editor of the paper have to do with Paris' life goals?
I think they were paired together so much in school projects cause they're Geller and Gilmore, just old fashioned alphabetical order to make the groups.
I'd say the premise that paris is preoccupied with Rory, and that they are always paired up, doesn't make sense. (Paris is premed/prelaw, rory is an aspiring journalist)
But once you accept that premise it kinda makes sense.
Also...i think Rory likes having ppl around her she looks good to by comparison. Or the showrunners like that, it is after all the easiest way to make your protagonist look good: make everyone else bad!
There is something that I failed to mention, which you touch upon. I think the fact that they are always on school projects together is a bit contrived from the show's perspective. The show probably liked putting these two together because their personalities are in stark contrast to each other; Paris is very loud, abrasive, and aggressive while Rory is very soft and quiet.
It's common to give a protagonist a foil so they seem more likeable. Some people might find Rory's need to study and need to adhere to the rules stifling. So they put in Paris, who is even more extreme, and Rory seems normal.
I just find it funny that Paris is Rory's only friend, when it was her popularity that was needed to support Paris' run for student president. She could easily find other friends.
@@MsJubjubbird i'm gonna be mean now: i think Rory was "popular" because she wasn't friend with anybody.
She had shallow, school related contact with many but none of the ppl there knew her well, so no one had anything bad to say against her.
As a true friend she leaves room for improvement
Just found your work today, and it's good. One thing that bothers me about Gilmore Girl's is the geography. Coming from New Haven, CT, and having spent many hours in the Yale area...Star's Hallow (Which is not a typical name for a Connecticut Town) doesn't fit 30 minutes away from Old Campus Yale, where the resident colleges are (Dorms). East and West puts you in the urban sprawl of the Northeast Metroplex, and even due North does to a lesser extent. Star's Hallow was based on Washington Depot, which is in Northern Eastern Connecticut and doesn't look like Star's Hallow. Richard is in insurance which puts him working in Hartford, which is North-Central Connecticut and the business area is along the Connecticut River (45min+ to New Haven on a good day), Chilton is based on Rosemary Chote which is in Wallingford, along the I91 corridor, closer to New Haven than Hartford. Richard and Emily probably live in West Hartford or just West of it, along the I-84 corridor. To make it even close Star Hollow would have to be in Northern Connecticut, the place that makes the most sense is Mansfield which is just across the Connecticut River from Hartford to the East...sorry for my musings.
Hello! Welcome to the channel. 🙂I've tried to figure out the geography before and have given up. 🤣I don't think it's supposed to make sense. I believe that they didn't use the geography of those real-life places and they didn't map out the locations when they were making the show, so distances vary. I will actually be in your neck of the woods in two weeks (sort of, I'm going to Hartford).
@@PensiveWhiskers Cool, Enjoy.
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The show would have been better if Rory had confided in Paris more. I think the reason the writers did this was because Paris would have given Rory genuine critical advice. She was the only person who didn't treat Rory as special and perfect.
There is a deleted scene that I discovered recently where Paris and Rory talk about Jess. That would have been the first time they talk about Rory, if they kept it in. I understand why they cut it out, but it would have been a good bonding moment and showed a different side to Paris' character.
You are not too hard on Paris. I love her, she is complex, but she is also comlicated and tiring, so your opinion soinds reasonable to me.
Paris was so in love. Poor girl
Paris is pretty good example of borderline personality disorder (with some heavy narcissit features). People with bld have difficulties controlling their emotions and sometimes to feel empathy to others (which makes it easy for them to justify the abuse). Paris I believe, is actually codependent on Rory in the first two seasons. This is another thing that happens with people with bld. Paris behaves like a bully/obsessive/stalker in the first season, because she sees her as a threat and (unconciensly) thinks that she needs be eliminated. They can only become friends later on when Paris no longer sees Rory as a threat.
Watching Rory as a homebody who, like Paris, doesn't enjoy parties or superficial socialisation, makes me more confused about how much her persona changes with Logan. Maybe that's why I never enjoyed the Logan era: that wasn't the Rory I knew.
another point Paris is very ACTIVE /dominant personality while Rory is is quite passive and used to thing happening to her rather then initiate events
Paris literally FORCED the relationship on Rory , and Rory i think accepted it more due to her passivity rather then clever strategy
Two reasons I can think of for Paris turning of Rory’s alarms 1) it’s her way of letting out her anger in a small way that will be let go off within the week and won’t ruin her reputation to much 2) make she was just tired and out of it when she done it, I can’t tell the time in the morning lol so maybe she’s the same
The viewpoint I have regarding Paris’ character, is that Paris is what Rory could have been if Christopher and Lorelai got married and followed the expectations of their parents. Paris is Rory dialed up to 11. They have the same values, the same drive, even the same speaking cadence. Where Paris is weak, interpersonal skills, lack of emotional control, Rory is strong (for her age). By Lorelai removing herself from the toxic environment she grew up in (the wealth class, not specifically Richard and Emily, although it was present to some extent there too) she saved Rory from developing in a way that Paris did.
Rory was seduced by the world her grandparents lived in and we get a sense of how Rory would have lived her life, first through Paris then later during her “sabbatical” from Yale.
From a storytelling perspective, yes, Paris is a plot device/driver and through seasons 1-3 that was exactly what the character was. The show runners could have dropped Paris but they didn’t and they smartly realized that Paris could be a fully fleshed out character in her own right and did so in the college years.
I love Paris as a character and there are times during the show where I wanted to just give her a hug and try to turn down the volume of her thoughts even for just a little while.
It's like gossip girl what if Blair was blonde and serena the brunette
It was the best relationship that rory ever had forget Dean Jess and Logan Paris outlasted three boyfriends college
I honestly think some part of Paris wanted to be Rorys friend from at least season tow onwards, but just really didn't know how to make friend (from what I could gather Madelin and Louise were the kind of friends that are like there from the beginning) so she just kind of attached herself to her and for Rory, as you said for Rory it was easier to just be friends with her then at war with her.
I do actually think that Paris changes, even if it's just slightly, maybe just because she becomes more mature or maybe because getting distance from her toxic home life helps her loosen up a little bit. I don't think high school Paris would have had the tools to even know how to be a compassionate friend or have a long-term, mostly stable relationship. Paris is a complicated person with a lot of problems, but she is trying and I think Rory understands that and is willing to forgive her.
I also think they in many ways they compliment each other very well, Paris is much less timid and a bit more adventurous and I think motivates Rory come out of her shell a bit more and stand up for herself, while Rory is calmer and better at navigating social situations. Still they have enough in common that they can have interesting conversations.
And at least after season five, they probably feel very secure in each other. Paris and Rory both seem to have some degree of abandonment issues and Paris always chased Rory even to college, so that would give her some safety that she will be staying with her and Paris has unsuccessfully pushed Rory away multiple times.
I agree that a part of Paris wanted to be friends with Rory, probably as early as season 1, since the Bangles concert. Like you said, she wants to and doesn't know how. I also think that they complement each other because of their personalities, and that is why I think the show kept Paris on for the duration of the series.
I think the show kinda goes further than them just being similar. Imagine them as kids, they could've very easily be best friends, all the childhood stories Lorelai says about Rory? I can imagine them being about Paris as well. But the show points out the difference between how they were raised and that's what ultimately made them different. Though the entire show you can see it often views wealth and class as unhealthy and producing broken people who get hurt and then proceed to hurt others. Lorelai is different because she ran away from it, she lived on verge on poverty but instead she found community, learned to be much more empathetic and caring and that reflected very much in how she raised Rory. They lived in a shed and didn't had much but they were very close, Lorelai being constant good example. You mentioned that unlike Paris Rory doesn't care about status. It's easy to tell why, because Lorelai doesn't, rather the opposite she often despises it. Meanwhile Paris' parents are welathy and high-achieving it's easy to assume they care about status very much and always had very high demands and expectations of Paris. You can use same reason to explain the paranoia. We know Paris' parents divorce early in the show and scheme to get upper hand in the divorce. it's pretty likely this had been going on for a long time, I can imagine them using their child as a tool in their arguments and damaging her trust over and over. This can easily be why is Paris such a control freak and acts like dictator when in position of power.
Paris and Rory are very good show of nature vs nurture. They are highly inteligent, passionate about what they care about and perfectionalist. In Rory we can see many of these traits are likely not passed from Lorelai and that she maybe takes some after her grandfather instead. What makes them differ is their upbringing. Rory's happy childhood with plenty of love and very little to worry about and Paris' childhood which equipped her trauma and trust issues. And together it all just perfectly fits in theme of the show and its views on value of wealth vs happiness and community.
I agree
Most of rich people in the show don't care like i am rich i don't have to be nice to others
Rory is a Libra (canon) and Paris is an Aries (i think) -- explains why they are foils to eachother
Could you do a video about Paris´s romantic life?
I could. 🙂 Since I've already done a few Paris videos, I think I should keep going with them.
@@PensiveWhiskers Thanks ^^, analysing her as a romantic partner seens interessing. I still feel bad that she got divorced in the end ( tho it was kinda expected for her) because i realy wanted to see her with someone that loved her the way she is, since she probably must fell alone inside. Her romantic relacionships also always seemed to be very important to her.
I know Paris is very sensitive about seeing Rory as her rival. But, as an actually friend, season 4 and beyond, Paris is the friend I always wanted.
Paris is threatened by newcomers because she feels she has to be the best to get into Harvard. Of course it counter-productive, but it's not un-implausible. It's the mindset of the character feeling she has to be the best to get into Harvard. Once she sees Rory's files, she is considered the biggest threat to her at Chilton (later admitting when they are friends Rory helps drive her and keep her from becoming [as an example] who we see when she runs the _Yale Daily News._ Learning these details later is part of how storytelling works. It will make them seem one dimensional at first, but show they aren't in the long run.
Who said Madaline and Louise were Rory's friends? I see them as popular kids being forced to go there because their parents pay for them to. They started off as kids hanging around with the smartest girl (Paris) because they want good grades and developed a quasi friendship with her that Paris allows because she's not theatened by their smarts. When Rory comes in Chilton you see the boy crazy and the friendliness come out, but they feel turning their back on Paris to be dangerous at that point. There's nothing saying they are anyhing but occassional aquantinces to Rory, but could be more if the dynamics of the group were different.
The episode with The Bangles concert is one of my favorites in the whole series.
Paris is my favorite character. Especially considering what they end up doing with Rory's character development. By later season I think it's fair to ask why is Paris friends with Rory? But that question has to take into account the question about Rory being the worst and/or why the fanbase dislikes her so much.
I think the Chilton senes got better when Tristan left due to the actor not having as much time anymore.
S3 is the first season I see friendship moment between them outside of school. The reason why it doesn't always feel natural is because outside of school that part of their friendship is still new. It also makes things sad when things go back to square one, but makes Francie the ultimate Chilton antagonist, which is why we don't critisize Paris for her treating Rory as she does for the misconceptions Francie set up.
I disagree that for Paris it is all about the need to talk. It's just another part of how friendships work. Friends fight and if they really are friends something will bring them back together to fix things whether it be a need to talk or a direct apology. And Paris has done both with Rory. I disagree that Rory has no choice. There's always a choice. And if Rory didn't really want Paris around the way she sometimes claims, she is a strong enough character to make that clear.
Paris (and the other roomates) not wanting Lane in the dorm has better arguments than even what wasn't said in the episode , but suggested in the video: Schools don't allow people not assigned to dorms to room there for longer than a night if they go to the school and if they don't they can't stay at all without written permission from all parties giving the OK stating how long. This also needs the approval of the dorm supervisor.
The spring break episode wouldn't work without all the ups and down of everything before it.
By S4's end I think Rory sees Paris as a genuine friend and knows her personality well enough to be able to handle it while also still liking her company. It's the season she makes that realization and why later season storylines don't feel like steps backwards in the writers room. Even losing the position of Yale Daily News Editor and kicking Rory out when she gets it. I think how the video explains that situation explains the downs during the ups and downs of Rory and Paris's friendships very well. PS I love Paris as Rory's defensive friend. Especially to Tristan 2.0... I mean Logan.
One of the things that I like about the storyline where Rory has dropped out of Yale is that when Paris is talking to people in Stars Hollow who don't know her well its a little like watching S1 Paris (although not exactly - now that she's in college the competitive mean girl aspect is gone and its just more like a combination of S1 and S3) because that's how she acts to newcomers. It would take years (as it did with Rory) for her to warm up to them. The second Rory shows up, she knows how to handle the situation and defends Paris to the Stars Hollow folk, albeit lightly.
When I say Paris is a good friend, I think of the arc. From antagonist to friend.
No character on Gilmore Girl is realistic and yet if you look at the creator of the show, you get why all characters on the show are the way they are.
I disagree that Paris never changed. If the relationshiip with Rory changed, she did, but I also believe that, in some ways, people don't change. In that sense Paris works.
All the ups and down make sense in the scope of the overall picture, but judging them on just the individual episodes themselves never makes sense.
I don't think characters like Paris or Cordelia from _Buffy the Vampire Slayer_ are one dimmensional at the beginning of the series. Audiences just don't know them well enough yet. Like any other characters in fiction audiences have to see their arc, and Paris and Cordelia start out looking one dimmensional.
Most characters on this show, if you disect them would get a cringe moment for one reason or another on their actions. That's a sign of good writing. You don't want Mary Sue's, which could easily happen if characters are just good and agreeable all the time.
I converted to Islam and think it's hilarious that Paris fasts for Ramadan lol
I will ask instead, why didn't Rory become friends with Madeline Zima's character, who was also in the Puffs' initiation ritual and loved reading while having lunch at school?
Yes! I thought the same thing.
Paris as Enneagram 8 Challenger with Rory as Enneagram 9 Peacemaker
you like cats, you like Gilmore Girls... if you also like goth rock/new wave/post punk, I'm officially in love.
I'm sorry to disappoint... that is not a genre of music that would be found in my playlists, but to be fair, I haven't listened to enough of it to know if I would like it or not.
@@PensiveWhiskershave a glass of wine (or 3); tonight, over the weekend, or whenever you have the time and the mood for; and give "Let Love In" by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds a listen.
I like cats, Gilmore Girls, and goth/new wave/post punk 👀
@@petalchild I will find you, and I will marry you 🥰😁😂
At the time of the show, I considered Paris's hostility to be a "Paris" thing like she would never change, so whatever. Looking back now, Paris is too much for me. But I agree that Paris and Rory's friendship grew organically and felt like a natural outcome, different from Luke and Lorelai's relationship, a narrative shoved down everyone's throats since episode one.
Wow, wasn’t expecting the plot twist that was your last sentence 😂. I take it you’re not a Luke/Lorelai fan?
@@PensiveWhiskers 😂😂😂 No, not a fan of this couple. I have so many thoughts that I even considered making a tiktok series about it. Why is Luke not a good partner for Lorelai parts 1-100 😁😁😁
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The longer I've watched this show, the more I think Paris likely had undiagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder. The extremely poor emotional regulation, intense fear of abandonment and constant negative assumptions about the motives of those around them plus the clinging on to those close to them are all classic BPD traits. Its very very hard to have healthy relationships with BPD and Paris epitomizes that
I came to the same conclusion when watching her scenes.
Maybe..she has a few traits. A mild form maybe.
It would be understandable. Her parents didn’t abandon or abuse her. But they weren't emotionally available and the mother seems seems quite emotionally abusive as well as absent. As she was raised by a nanny. The mother may be narcasistic.
@@louwinters508 you just said they didn't abandon her or abuse her but also say she was raised by a nanny (because her parents were never around, she points this out several times) and that her mom was emotionally abusive. That's how BPD forms and I would reckon that's not a mild case at all. Her character traits are quite extreme.
Here's the problem Rory knew that Tristan like her. Why the hell would you tell him to ask Paris out? It's strange how people are divided on this. Like girly I remember trying to convince Rory through my screen to shut up.
I'm pretty sure I'm Paris
What leads you to that conclusion?
why is paris friends with rory is the bigger question
That is another good question. I should have probably made this a double question video.
There isn't anything unethical about Rory having a, functionally, step parent work at the school she attends.
Rory suggesting Tristan asks out Paris is EXTREMELY messed up! It makes Paris look like a 5th grader, emotionally.
Welcome to the 2000s, sweetheart.😂
Stockholm syndrome?
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I had the same thought when I was watching their scenes. 😂
i think there was something homosexual going on there
lmaooooooo real tho
Didn't Paris kiss Rory @spring break?
I wish, it has every romantic trope, the one sided enemies who become friends and then lovers, the academic rivals, the "I hate everyone but you", the person that kinda pushes you to do and become better, the college roommates, and probably many more
Nah. It's more of a platonic codependence. Which then turns into basically a non related sibling bond.
Oh! So that's why schools don't have lockers anymore! It was a joke. Leave me alone.
Lol, what do you mean? 😂
The reason Paris has it out for Rory the day she comes to Chilton is because Paris is currently the top student and Rory’s grades threatens that. It is literally our first introduction to Paris in the show. You miss little details like that in a lot of your Gilmore Girls videos. It’s a small detail of the show but a pretty big detail for this video you’re making. In another Gilmore Girls video you made you said the way you prepare for these videos is by watching only the scenes that the characters you’ll be talking about are in, which I think is why you’re missing small details of the show that make me disagree with your point of view. But i disagree that it over simplifies Paris’ character because the only personality trait we see of Paris until after Chilton is her strong will to get into Harvard. She has EXTREME pressure on her from her family and her own expectations of herself so having a new girl come in in the middle of the year is an extreme threat to the literal only thing she cares about. Rory was doing great when she GOT to Chilton, that’s HOW she got in! it was after the first few weeks she was realizing she was having trouble KEEPING UP. So she was entirely and understandably a threat to Paris, and I think it actually goes really deep if you analyze the relationship based on the fact that Paris DID have a valid reason to be threatened by and therefore be rude to Rory.
Basing her rivalry with Rory on her accidentally wrecking her school project is what would make Paris’ character simplified! The reason her accidentally ruing the project hit so hard is because Paris was already feeling threatened by her!
Paris is an awful friend. Clingy with no respect for people's time and space when in good terms. Vindictive and nasty when on bad terms. And that changes on a whim at her discretion, depending on whether she feels shes at an advantage or not.
I had a friend like that. And it is not fun. But yes you do get used to it. I no longer speak to her much.
you sure like rory
Hi! I think she's fine as a character. Not saintly by any means but also not a villain. In her relationship with Paris, she was good. In other relationships, she wasn't so good and sometimes really bad. I got criticized in my "Analyzing Rory From the Guys' Perspective" video because people felt I hated her, but the thing is, I have only been looking at her in relation to her specific actions. I haven't looked at her as a whole yet.
@@PensiveWhiskers this makes a lot of sense! i'll be waiting for your full review on her
I don't understand why the GG fandom likes Paris. Paris was a hateful little thing for absolutely no reason.
It's pity I think. And the fact that she is an interesting character. Very spiteful yes. But damaged. And the very reason why Lorlei didn’t want her daughter brought up in that world till she was old enough anyway. And it's not about being rich it's about the expectationsof the upperclasses. Richard and Emily are no where near top of the food chain.
It's pity I think. And because Paris is an interesting character. Yes she is spiteful but also broken. And this is why Lorlei didn’t want her daughter brought up in this world till she was old enough.
@@louwinters508 Paris is broken because her family is a mess. She wasn't raised in a loving home. Wealth has nothing to do with it. The GG fan-dumb is pretty clueless about how families are SUPPOSED to work. Too much #BabyMamaProgramming
Lorelai is an awful excuse for a mother and taught her daughter nothing but stupid, meaningless pop culture garbage instead of actual morals because yeah, morals are lame and misogynistic, down with the patriarchy and all that. 🙄🙄🙄
@@louwinters508 Paris is broken because her family is a mess. Wealth has nothing to do with it. The GG fan-dumb is pretty clueless about how families are SUPPOSED to work. Too much #BabyMamaProgramming
Lorelai is an awful excuse for a mother and taught her daughter nothing but stupid, meaningless pop culture garbage instead of actual morals because yeah, morals are lame and misogynistic, down with the patriarchy and all that. 🙄🙄🙄
@@louwinters508 Paris is broken because her family is a mess. Wealth has nothing to do with it. The GG fan-dumb is pretty clueless about how families are SUPPOSED to work. Too much #BabyMamaProgramming
Lorelai is an awful excuse for a mother and taught her daughter nothing but stupid, meaningless pop culture garbage instead of actual morals because yeah, morals are lame and misogynistic, down with the patriarchy and all that. 🙄🙄🙄