@hiiij9638 I always felt the same way! I wouldn't get any surgery because my spouse demanded that I did lol...seems like a pretty reasonable response to me. He should've told her that, though, of course!
The lie was bad enough.....But to keep having unprotected sex, KNOWING she didn't want kids and that she was under the impression he had gotten the vasectomy.. GROSS!!!
I watched it before I decided to be child free, but it always bothered me too! That’s Sookie’s body that’ll have to carry a baby, not yours! If you really want kids that much, look into adoption or discuss it with your spouse!
I believe it’s because Amy Sherman-Palladio left the show after a couple seasons, if she had stayed on I feel like the characters would have better endings
There was also the thanksgiving situation when Jackson decides to fry everything even though he knows Sookie is a chef and was probably excited about thanksgiving and the episode where he takes sookie out to ski and doesn't let her ski. He just always did what he wanted without communicating properly with her
I totally agree, Jackson was honestly v controlling, frequently springing things on Sookie and being paternalistic about what she can and can’t do, and although it would resolve (if you could call it that) by him being supportive in the end, it really seemed more like manipulation to me bc he’d go right back to being controlling right after instead of actually being reflective or apologizing. But then Sookie started doing the same thing to Jackson! Constantly violating each other’s consent, making sweeping decisions regardless of the other’s input, and then ~making up~ rinse repeat. That’s what we in the business call a toxic cycle lol
sookie is so patient because me personally if my man promised he got a vasectomy and then he lied AND got my pregnant i would divorce him and take all the kids and his shit with me.
She forced him to do a vasectomy against his will. How would you like it if you passed out after labor and your husband took that opportunity to get your tubes tied? Yes, Jackson shouldn't have lied and he should have talked about kids before marrying Sookie but forcing your partner into elective surgery is wrong - don't care if it is 'reversible' everyone has the right to their own body and every procedure has risks. If Sookie wanted to get her tubes tied without his permission that would be one thing because it is her body but forcing it on your partner is wrong.
OMG someone finally said it! I have a lot of issues with Gilmore Girls today, but I will always adore it and Melissa McCarthy in particular, because it was the first time I ever saw a fatter woman on TV just be a normal person. You know having a job, falling in love, living her life, and her weight never being an issue or the butt of a joke (I feel like every other comedy from the time is seeped in fat jokes and fatphobia related humor, i.e. HIMYM). In fact, I don't think it was ever referenced in the show at all. Even today that is an astonishingly revolutionary concept. I think Sookie and Jackson's relationship went downhill when the writing did in the later seasons, but to me that doesn't take away from the sheer joy I had as a girl in seeing a character like Sookie on TV. Love your videos and takes on things - they are always well thought out and presented.
Gilmore Girls definitely had some fatphobic lines, even in the revival, that was disappointing. But I agree, it was never an issue with Sookie's character. I especially loved the storyline with the guy from culinary school who had a thing for her. She was portrayed as a successful woman who was admired for her personality and talent. I also loved how Luke and Sookie developed this great friendship, respecting each other as gifted cooks.
I’ve never forgiven Jackson after he lied about his vasectomy. He defenitely did it because he still wanted more children, and didn’t seem to care at all about Sookie’s feelings about being pregnant, giving birth and how it would affect her career. She leaving everything to Jackson and doing her own thing for most of the revival season was the right choice for her.
I really enjoyed Sookie and Jackson's love story. The third pregnancy storyline really killed the vibe. It really broke my heart to see Sookie resenting Jackson for lying to her. She became so bitter about it, it changed her character, rightfully so. Her going away for a while during the revival was also a direct result of this. After baby no. 2 Sookie was ready to get back to doing things for herself, perhaps even moving forward in her career. Since she couldn't do it then, due to her third child, she made up for it later. It even seemed like she went away without thinking about her children, leaving everything to Jackson, it seemed very off-character.
Oh my god she got pregnant for a third time?! 😳 I’m watching season four and I thought Davy would be her only kid I can’t believe she even had a second and third later considering how she already said she doesn’t like children and struggles being a mom. I can’t believe Jackson did that to her.
Your babies are adorable! Apparently the reason they wrote the storyline with the third baby was because Melissa McCarthy was actually pregnant. But they could've had a much better storyline. Maybe they sit down and talk about reversing the vasectomy? Having him lie about it was just so icky.
@lazyotter someone had a funny alternative storyline on reddit about it snd I wish they'd done this instead Jackson thinks you have to go back and check after 4 years not 4 months and there's a funny line about him timing it with the summer Olympics "I was gonna check my swimmers with the Olympic swimmers" Would have been a perfect Gilmore girls quirk
They were so sweet, but as a comedy relief, the writers made them look so stupid and childlike, there where times i couldn't stand them anymore. I don't like that they seem to get Sookie out of "the market" super quickly with whomever, (make her settle to this child man, very sweet, but couldn't work in real life) so Lorelai could be the only and main love interest for all the introduced male characters; the writers did this to every female they could, as there was not any other single, beautiful, smart and funny women in the whole planet only Lorelai and Rory. also their friendship seems to be one sided, Sookie is only a good and supportive friend in theory, but in practice I don't see her helping much I don't like this butchering of characters :c
Jacksons emotional reactions are those of a child. I feel like sookie scheduling the vasectomy, albeit wrong, was because she saw it as the only way to not have more children because he always wants to get his way. And that comes true: he never tells her he didn't to to the surgery en get's her pregnant again. That is absolutely horrifying to me.
YES!!! I think Jackson deliberately lied to get Sookie pregnant, effectively taking her agency from here. Honestly though, as soon as Jackson announced 4 in 4-I was done with him.
Impregnating a woman without her consent should be a criminal. I was sickened by it. Such a violation of someone else’s body. I can’t imagine Sookie ever trusting or respecting him again and not even love can overcome that.
And also I think that Sookie and Jackson had a great relationship dating and like a season after but then they just started getting mad at eachother and mad at other a lot more
Sookie and Jackson are both potrayed as silly and quirky and dumb to make Lorelai seems much more together and smart and ”boss lady”, if you get what I mean. Their relationship, although most of the time sweet, seems like something they got into because it was convenient. Like Lorelai made a stupid comment to Sookie about her being alone and then Sookie picked out the first guy that came to mind. Honestly Kirk and Lulu had a better relationship than Sookie and Jackson.
Yesss! Growing up watching this show honestly taught me SO much about what NOT to do in relationships 😂 The incessant hinting that inevitably leads to resentment and anger around your unmet needs...WHO NEEDS IT lol. It's much more productive to be straight up about what you want. I've learned that the people who really love you will often be willing to give what you need or compromise for their needs also. Great video, as usual!
Sookie being like "surprise, you're getting a vasectamy" the first time he's holding his daughter always made me sick. I hated them from that moment on.
I always thought that the whole point of the show is how a lack of communication messes up people and relationships. There aren’t many relationships in the show with good communication. Only 2 romantic ones that I can think of… Richard and Emily (and even that breaks down the moment he feels adrift after retirement) and Babette and her guy. I can’t remember his name right now. Lorelei and Rory have good communication for large chunks of the show, but when that breaks down the show is almost painful to watch (by design I think). I’m not actually arguing with any of your points. I just think it was all by design.
I feel like the writers left in the seventh season just wanted to nuke anything good in the series. I think it was terrible that Jackson lied about something like this, but it was also kind of weird that Sookie scheduled the procedure for him. I sort of feel like the writers sacrificed for manufactured drama to go against the personalities and all known character developments of many characters, especially in the seventh season. They messed up Lane's life too just to heighten the drama. I think it was all kind of cheap on their part, but I get that in some ways they were written into a corner. I feel like they could have fleshed out more of the characters or let some positive things happen.
So the vasectomy thing, characterwise, both bad, her saying he was getting one and him not telling her he didn't get one. BUT in all fairness, this 3rd pregnancy was to cover up Melissa's real life one I think, so the writers had to make up this bad story plot for them.
rape by deception is still rape, and it's a damn shame most people refuse to see that. i hated this storyline for that exact reason, but i'm often made to feel overdramatic for stating that. thank you for this video!
i rewatched the dance marathon episode recently and it made me so mad when he yelled at lorelai! like in what world is that appropriate especially in front of so many people! i initially thought sookie and jackson were really cute together but him lying abt the vasectomy was so awful! i am a mom and i know how hard it is on our bodies and mentally. i would never be able to forgive him if i was sookie, he literally got her pregnant without her consent!
Dang i found your videos earlier and have been binging so this is perfect timing lol Eta I think they were theoretically good together but they're a great example of how sometimes someone seems perfect for you until you're actually together.
The other thing which drove home how bad their communication is: they had that scene where they started yelling at Davey to do things when he was too young to understand or do them. And their explanation was "he has to learn." So they aren't just bad at communicating. They've actually deluded themselves into believing that bad communication is *good*, and should be taught to their child. I kind of wonder if the writers used it as an analog for spanking, since that would have been more controversial. To make it "funny," they invented this other, probably equally terrible form of communicating with young children.
And once again, despite having an unplanned pregnancy, abortion is not even discussed as an option despite Sookie explicitly saying she never wanted to be pregnant again. I know it was different time, but even a ''what are you planning to do?'' would give these characters more agency.
I agree with all this and happy some one mentions it, they both weren't kind and thoughtful to one another needs. She did not check in with him about getting a vasectomy and if he was ok with it, or talk about alternatives. The fact she consented to relations believing the circumstances were one way (vasectomy) and it turning out to be a lie is a violation of not just trust by borderline sa and def manipulation.
I completely agree! I want to like them, and they definitely have cute moments early on, but I've always been bothered by the parts you brought up. I understand him hinting about moving in together, but when she was clearly not understanding what he was trying to ask, he should have just said it. I also always hated his reaction to finding out she was pregnant the first time. The vasectomy was so much worse, though. While I also didn't like that she told him he was getting one, his lying to her about it is soooo much worse. A comment I saw said it was to cover a real life pregnancy but like they could have just said it failed or something - they didn't have to make him so despicable.
I would’ve left. Straight up filed for divorce. If my HUSBAND lied to me about something as big as birth control, the possibility of me getting pregnant again when I said I don’t want to, I would FUCKING LEAVE HIM. Sure, she should’ve NOT pushed the vasectomy on him suddenly, but at the end of the day she’s the one who has to go through pregnancy all over again!
I love this cuz my SO, a guy who has never really watched this show, saw a few episodes here and there as I watched it. He got so invested in their relationship, but hated Jackson in the end.
Firstly, yeay thank you for doing a video on sookie and jackson! Also did you remember their talk about a move in? It was so weird, he commented "my landlord asked if i should pay the rent" and then sookie, pragmatically answers with "well, yes, you love the place, what a silly question". jackson replied "but its a baaaacheloooors pad do you think i should move in in my baaaaaaaaachleoooors pad?". and THEN he was mad because she didn't figure out on her own that he wanted to move in with her! A normal, mature conversation would be "hey, i'm more at your place than i am in mine. what do you think, do you want to move in together?". their banter was cute when they weren't together, but as a couple you need to figure out how to work on conflicts together and they seemed to be against each other every time we see them on screen. he pulls stuff like this all the time, when he is mad that sookie can't read his thoughts. maybe its a critism to men who think figuring them out is their wifes(/moms) job? Though i actually enjoyed the dialogue with rory, because he was right calling her out on only thinking of herself and her mom and not the adult who was most important to lorelai. i don't think he wanted her to get pregnant, he just didn't want to agree with sookie (as always) and then it was just conveniant for him. like most white cis het males he didn't think his actions had consequences.
Jackson honestly always came off as so myopic and controlling, even as early as season two. Guy honestly was such a schmuck with comparatively rare moments of being a decent partner.
I feel like I can only excuse the terrible third pregnancy storyline because Melissa McCarthy in real life got pregnant and they had to come up with something to explain why she was suddenly pregnant. I do not think Jackson got her pregnant on purpose because I truly feel like he was happy with two children already. Remember when Lorelai and Luke have dinner with Sookie and Jackson and they’re having so much trouble already raising two kids as is. Prior to Season 7, I tdo believe that Jackson had the vasectomy as ASP intended. according to Jackson he thought she was on the pill and she thought he had the procedure done. Which means they had been having unprotected sex for over a year. Spring/Summer 2005 to Winter 2006. Which means they would’ve/could’ve gotten pregnant earlier. I think a much better plot line and story would’ve been Jackson’s procedure not being entirely effective. There are cases where a pregnancy can occur after a vasectomy. But clearly the Season 7 writers were in over their head and thought a quirky but yet another clumsy mistake on Jackson’s part would be “funnier” when it really isn’t. Canon-wise, Jackson and Sookie have extremely bad communication problems. I think they were fine together because they have energies that match in terms of emotional chaos. They have good moments like Jackson sleeping with the zucchini to be perfect for the soup for the Dragonfly’s opening. I truly think that they were gonna have miscommunication immediately because of how they began. Why are Sookie and Jackson attracted to each other when they were constantly at each other’s throats when he dropped off produce? It’s supposed to be drama for the sake of humor. Thankfully Sookie and Jackson’s last issue on the show is discussing why she’s so angry at him and they at least begin to talk about it. I can only hope that’s the start of them moving forward.
I hate Jackson as a figure so, so much. It made me so angry how Sookie stayed with him after he practically lied and manipulated her into bearing a third child against her own stated wishes. I think this would be one of the exeptionally rare situations were I personally would resort to violence against another person, because to me, this is such a gigornomous intrusion on another persons body. But, alas. Star's Hollow is filled with mothers who I think would've loved a little bit more personal freedom, and a little less children.
Although I totally agree that lying about the vasectomy was a really shitty move, forcing your husband to do a vasectomy is also a very shitty move, so I guess they both tasted their own medicine.
She did not force him, obviously. He did not went through with it, so she could not have forced him. She did not communicate her needs well, it was a really stupid move to do it like she did, but you know, that's just how he communicated with her as well. Still, lying about the vasectomy is so endlessly much worse, because in the end, a child was conceived that was absolutely not wanted by one of its parents. How does that compare to a vasectomy appointment that he didn't went through with???
I feel like if Sookie was honest with Jackson after the second kid, he would have been more open to getting the vasectomy. Instead of just like, yay we had a baby, now immediately go get a vasectomy. I thought that storyline was weird. The fact that Jackson also didn't tell Sookie got a vasectomy was messed up. I don't know if I could stay with my partner after something like that. If I had a partner.
The problem with many Gilmore Girls characters is communication. Like Sookie telling Jackson she doesn't want anymore kids and doesn't want to take any more risks so she would like it if he got a vasectomy would've been great. But no she doesn't and schedules it in behind his back, without his knowledge. Then him not getting it instead of just saying that he doesn't want a vasectomy is also just so weird. Then when she gets pregnant, it could've all been avoided if they would've just communicated - the both of them. I do think what Jackson did was (I mean, obviously) way worse, because I mean she becomes pregnant because of his inability to communicate, but I do think you shouldn't overlook her actions, what she did was also shitty and selfish at best.
i love your videos! i have been absolutely bingeing them (not sure if i spelled that right haha). i never noticed this honestly, and i think it’s gross. i’m pretty sure that there are several svu episodes about a topic similar to this. not that this is necessarily like those or that svu is the perfect example, but it goes to show that this behavior is absolutely out of line!
i want to argue that sookie didn’t take jackson’s choice away it’s not like she dragged him to do it she scheduled an appointment she didn’t make him do anything but let’s say she attempted to take his choice away which is wrong to a certain degree he still did whatever he wanted without even telling her, sookie told him what she wanted him to do.
Jackson was terrible for never telling sookie he didn’t get a vasectomy but sookie is just as bad for springing it on him like that! What sookie did is just as shitty of a thing to do as what Jackson did. I don’t know why fans don’t seem to realize this?
I feel like a lot of their relationship was meant for comedic relief because they’re both pretty goofy and the arguments they got in were meant to be taken lightly, but I hate how glossed over Jackson lying about the vasectomy was
I feel the same way about Sookie and Jackson as I do about Pam and Jim in the office. Both couples struggle in what I call plot driven, inability to talk. I personally like watching shows where the characters are not perfect people, so while i don’t agree with Jackson or sookie when it came to how they handled a lot of things. I still think they were a great couple. I’ve been married 6 years and i think we are learning and growing still and sometimes I’m in the wrong and sometimes he is and a lot of times we both are. But that’s what makes these shows so real to me.
I’m pretty sure ASP added the third kid because Melissa McCarthy herself got pregnant at the time. She decided to write in Jackson lying about the vasectomy to make the pregnancy make sense, and this is another case where she thought we’d forgive a beloved character for doing something SO bad (like Rory sleeping with Dean) but she was wrong.
I agree with all these points! Their relationship is not one to look up to. Lying about the vasectomy is pretty unforgivable. But, it would be a boring show if everyone was good at communicating and everything went well all the time, so I enjoy the toxic bits 😅
i loved them at first but jackson was too much at one point like when he didnt bet on her $800 basket out of pettiness and when he deep fried the turkey knowing good & well that sookie is a professional chef AND ESPECIALLY the vasectomy
I feel like everyone in Gilmore girls acts like the other people are mind readers. Minimal communication and too much asking for forgiveness over permission
Sookie's character telling him he is in fact, getting snipped always made me angry....and yes him not telling her the truth is bad...but he had every right to say NO I am not altering my body because YOU decided I should...classic situation where its a breakdown of respect and communication...how are we this into talking about them like they are real? lolol Oh your theme song, hehe love it!! Oh Yeah!!!
I've never really liked Jackson, it started for me with the pettiness at the basket bid thing. After all the effort she put in making the basket and him getting mad she didn't understand his hint. Be more obvious with your hint or just communicate! I really started to dislike him when he yelled at Lorelai for the 4 in 4 years. Women talk to each other get a grip. If he talks to Lorelai like that in public, how does he talk to Sookie behind closed doors? The final nail in the coffin for me is when Sookie is on bed rest and Luke is covering. Both Sookie and Jackson are terrible in the episode. Sookie should have found a replacement and stepped back and Jackson shouldn't speak to Luke like that. Luke is doing them both a favour and they act like total assholes to him. If I were him I'd have told them both to do one and lose my number.
They were both on the wrong. You cannot force someone (even if they are your husband!) to get a vasectomy. Sookie forced him to go with the nurse. Therefore, I can't blame him for not getting it, he didn't want to do it in the first place. Nevertheless, this doesn't give him a pass for lying to her about it. A couple should be honest and upfront with everything that revolves around their sexual life. Especially if the consequence of their actions is a child.
Oh goodness, I'm going to admit something, I've never seen season 7 of Gilmore Girls in it's entirety. I've only seen the first and last episodes of season 7. I didn't like where it was going and by that point it didn't feel like Gilmore Girls to me anymore. I'm glad I never did because what the writers did to Sookie and Jackson is awful.
I think he got her pregnant. On purpose. However she shouldn't schedule a vasectomy for him either. They aren't transparent and underhanded. They make a lousy couple
During one of my rewatches....medically prescribed by my doctor If you do merch please put this on your merch I want this on a shirt (trying not to get bots)
I just don't understand why he would assume she would remain on the pill when she thought he was medically sterile. Sure, a lot of women use birth control for other reasons, but just as many if not more women either aren't on birth control because of side effects or don't like being on birth control because of the side effects. Personally, the side effects weren't worth it for me. Of course she wasn't worried about the pill if she thought Jackson was shootin blanks.
I know I'm late lol (only finished GG for the first time a few days ago), but iirc Melissa Mccarthy was actually pregnant around the time of baby no.3 so they more or less had to include a third child, even though it didn't fit with Sookie and Jackson's story. I don't get why they had to go down the "he lied about the vastectomy" route because I'm sure we all ended up hating Jackson for that, but the writers probaly had no clue how else to go about it. Still a bad move tho. Just my thoughts here, loved the video! Totally agree.
I think it’s unfair to judge Jackson based on that last pregnancy. That pregnancy was written in because McCarthy was actually pregnant. So if Jackson had a vasectomy the only option would be Sookie cheated. But that would destroy the marriage so Jackson had to just not get the vasectomy. If McCarthy hadn’t gotten pregnant in real life, this never would’ve happened therefore I choose to ignore the vasectomy issue. Now removing that, I love Sookie and Jackson. I love Sookie but she’s insane. And Jackson being Jackson doesn’t stifle that. And Sookie understand and accepts much of Jackson’s oddities as well. I mean, she knew it was making Jackson happy to deep fry the turkey so even if it was eating her up inside, she just let it happen. Let Jackson have his fun. And Jackson knew Sookie wouldn’t rest wondering about Luke’s cooking in the Inn so he takes her over there because goddamit if Sookie wants to try the food she’s trying the food and he’ll make it happen. They’re silly and they’re cute and they love all the hard to accept aspects of each other and support each other endlessly.
I’ve been rewatching and I hate Jackson he’s a complete man child and honestly Sookie is cool in the first couple seasons after that she becomes selfish and irritating
You know at first I wanted to defend their relationship pre-revival, I thought “noooo way, they were adorable in the main show!” and then you brought up the SA. Because yes it is SA to lie about birth control, which Jackson did. So yeah, no defending that. I will say I don’t mind his reaction to her brining up moving in or being pregnant. I think in universe it makes sense that her saying “hey let’s move in” may have caused a moment of panic, but followed up by reflection that made him realize he was all in. But also, the trope of “are they going to break up, then suddenly they’re engaged!” is such a Hollywood favorite. As far as him panicking about the pregnancy, uhm relatable…
i liked jakson all the way until the vasectomy. i was literally shoked that he did that however I also think that suki shouldna have got him into a vasectomy appointment without consulting him first. so it's all a "who's fault" debate, and I personally hate this typpa debates, cause it's probably nobody's fault, it's just how it meant to be.
Only one comment about the he didn't get the vasectomy thing It wasn't intended its because Melissa was pregnant and they chose to write it in that way (bad writers no gruel for you!)
Sookie was great at first but her relationship with Jackson sucked. It was annoying the way they argued and how easily they got offended about literally anything.
I don’t think he necessarily got her pregnant on purpose but what he did was awful. I get not wanting to tell her no when she’s just given birth but women can’t have sex for weeks after childbirth so he had weeks to come clean before there was a risk of consequences.
communication is a HUGE issue in almost all gilmore girls relationships but esp sookie and jacksons to me bc they never really 'talk it out'. jackson dotes on sookie as if shes a child a LOT of the time. dont get me wrong, its good to care for your wife, but hes very demeaning and belittling
Idk I’m a little unpopular here. Jackson is sassy and I kinda like that. Sookie is clumsy, very obsessive compulsive, and a tad bit explosive. Jackson is explosive too but not in a violent threatening way. He’s not afraid to loudly voice his opinion to Lorelai, Rory, Luke, Taylor, Chris, Sookie, anybody. Jackson wasn’t broody, moody, elusive. I thought their arguments were cute and a lot of times they were both being thoughtful in their own way. Jackson bein mad that Rory didn’t consult Sookie, Jackson insisting on making Sookie a meal, Sookie insisting on redecorating her home for Jackson, Jackson panicking and wanting to make everything safe and right for their first child. They’re chaotic and even awful sometimes but that’s…life. And I love the episode where Jackson helps Sookie see that she hadn’t forgiven him. A lot of guys do something wrong and act like they don’t know why their partner is upset. Jackson was extremely imperfect but wasn’t a malicious person. At the core he really loved Sookie and it shows in the way he treated her overall.
What people fail to realize with Sookie and Jackson ..Jackson was a strong, alpha male when dealing with his relationship with Suki, but slowly overtime she weaken him and he became this pathetic type of man that does what she wants whenever she wants it, and how she wants it .I like when he was strong with her
i tried to like jackson but as someone who never wants kids watching him lie to her about the vasectomy made my blood boil
@hiiij9638 I always felt the same way! I wouldn't get any surgery because my spouse demanded that I did lol...seems like a pretty reasonable response to me. He should've told her that, though, of course!
The lie was bad enough.....But to keep having unprotected sex, KNOWING she didn't want kids and that she was under the impression he had gotten the vasectomy.. GROSS!!!
I watched it before I decided to be child free, but it always bothered me too! That’s Sookie’s body that’ll have to carry a baby, not yours! If you really want kids that much, look into adoption or discuss it with your spouse!
Best couple on the show was Babette and Morey
@@amywonderland9297yes yes literally the most unproblematic
The writers really sabotaged their own show by the end tbh. Lane, lorelai, Rory and sookie all had sorta depressing endings
I don't think anyone got a decent ending tbh
@@radhiadeedou8286 did you watch the rival??
how is Lorelai ending depressing?
@@ninasuperbass well her father passed away
I believe it’s because Amy Sherman-Palladio left the show after a couple seasons, if she had stayed on I feel like the characters would have better endings
There was also the thanksgiving situation when Jackson decides to fry everything even though he knows Sookie is a chef and was probably excited about thanksgiving and the episode where he takes sookie out to ski and doesn't let her ski. He just always did what he wanted without communicating properly with her
god i remember that- i felt bad for her
this! everything was always about jackson
Nothing wrong with Jackson wanting to deep fry the turkey. Sookie needs to lighten up
I totally agree, Jackson was honestly v controlling, frequently springing things on Sookie and being paternalistic about what she can and can’t do, and although it would resolve (if you could call it that) by him being supportive in the end, it really seemed more like manipulation to me bc he’d go right back to being controlling right after instead of actually being reflective or apologizing. But then Sookie started doing the same thing to Jackson! Constantly violating each other’s consent, making sweeping decisions regardless of the other’s input, and then ~making up~ rinse repeat. That’s what we in the business call a toxic cycle lol
@@filmandsuchh why? She tried to force surgery on him that's 1000 x worse
sookie is so patient because me personally if my man promised he got a vasectomy and then he lied AND got my pregnant i would divorce him and take all the kids and his shit with me.
Just like Angela said in “Why did I get married” “Boom.”
what jackson did is at best borderline sa truly unbelievable sookie didn't poison him and say sorry i thought u were taking the antidote
She forced him to do a vasectomy against his will. How would you like it if you passed out after labor and your husband took that opportunity to get your tubes tied? Yes, Jackson shouldn't have lied and he should have talked about kids before marrying Sookie but forcing your partner into elective surgery is wrong - don't care if it is 'reversible' everyone has the right to their own body and every procedure has risks.
If Sookie wanted to get her tubes tied without his permission that would be one thing because it is her body but forcing it on your partner is wrong.
Why take the kids? He's the one who wants them, leave him the kids and see them on the weekends
@@JJ-yn4cj I agree, it bothered me when she did that too. My mother who was watching with me was also perturbed.
OMG someone finally said it! I have a lot of issues with Gilmore Girls today, but I will always adore it and Melissa McCarthy in particular, because it was the first time I ever saw a fatter woman on TV just be a normal person. You know having a job, falling in love, living her life, and her weight never being an issue or the butt of a joke (I feel like every other comedy from the time is seeped in fat jokes and fatphobia related humor, i.e. HIMYM). In fact, I don't think it was ever referenced in the show at all. Even today that is an astonishingly revolutionary concept. I think Sookie and Jackson's relationship went downhill when the writing did in the later seasons, but to me that doesn't take away from the sheer joy I had as a girl in seeing a character like Sookie on TV. Love your videos and takes on things - they are always well thought out and presented.
Gilmore Girls definitely had some fatphobic lines, even in the revival, that was disappointing. But I agree, it was never an issue with Sookie's character. I especially loved the storyline with the guy from culinary school who had a thing for her. She was portrayed as a successful woman who was admired for her personality and talent. I also loved how Luke and Sookie developed this great friendship, respecting each other as gifted cooks.
She had such a beautiful relationship with food too. It was almost an art form to her
What we're your issues?
Not to mention she always looked beautiful and never the frumpy best friend that tenfs to happen i those roles. I love her
tbh even if they never fat shamed sookie they always did to other fat characters or made jokes about it
I’ve never forgiven Jackson after he lied about his vasectomy. He defenitely did it because he still wanted more children, and didn’t seem to care at all about Sookie’s feelings about being pregnant, giving birth and how it would affect her career. She leaving everything to Jackson and doing her own thing for most of the revival season was the right choice for her.
Not just that he held off on telling her until she was too far pregnant to abort from what I remember?
@@amywonderland9297 yeah, that too! He’s such an AH, I would never have forgiven my partner in her situation.
If i found out my husband lied about getting the vasectomy, game over. I can’t believe that issue as glossed over
*was
I really enjoyed Sookie and Jackson's love story. The third pregnancy storyline really killed the vibe. It really broke my heart to see Sookie resenting Jackson for lying to her. She became so bitter about it, it changed her character, rightfully so. Her going away for a while during the revival was also a direct result of this. After baby no. 2 Sookie was ready to get back to doing things for herself, perhaps even moving forward in her career. Since she couldn't do it then, due to her third child, she made up for it later. It even seemed like she went away without thinking about her children, leaving everything to Jackson, it seemed very off-character.
Oh my god she got pregnant for a third time?! 😳 I’m watching season four and I thought Davy would be her only kid I can’t believe she even had a second and third later considering how she already said she doesn’t like children and struggles being a mom. I can’t believe Jackson did that to her.
Your babies are adorable!
Apparently the reason they wrote the storyline with the third baby was because Melissa McCarthy was actually pregnant. But they could've had a much better storyline. Maybe they sit down and talk about reversing the vasectomy? Having him lie about it was just so icky.
Or even just have them realize the vasectomy didn't work. That would've been so much better.
Thank you! And yea I agree
@lazyotter someone had a funny alternative storyline on reddit about it snd I wish they'd done this instead
Jackson thinks you have to go back and check after 4 years not 4 months and there's a funny line about him timing it with the summer Olympics "I was gonna check my swimmers with the Olympic swimmers"
Would have been a perfect Gilmore girls quirk
@@carlyedwards1422 😂😂😂 Love it! That would've been perfect!
@@user74027nh yeah … it would been a teaching moment … and just better for the couple that we loved
They were so sweet, but as a comedy relief, the writers made them look so stupid and childlike, there where times i couldn't stand them anymore.
I don't like that they seem to get Sookie out of "the market" super quickly with whomever, (make her settle to this child man, very sweet, but couldn't work in real life) so Lorelai could be the only and main love interest for all the introduced male characters; the writers did this to every female they could, as there was not any other single, beautiful, smart and funny women in the whole planet only Lorelai and Rory. also their friendship seems to be one sided, Sookie is only a good and supportive friend in theory, but in practice I don't see her helping much
I don't like this butchering of characters :c
Very well said.
Jacksons emotional reactions are those of a child. I feel like sookie scheduling the vasectomy, albeit wrong, was because she saw it as the only way to not have more children because he always wants to get his way. And that comes true: he never tells her he didn't to to the surgery en get's her pregnant again. That is absolutely horrifying to me.
YES!!! I think Jackson deliberately lied to get Sookie pregnant, effectively taking her agency from here. Honestly though, as soon as Jackson announced 4 in 4-I was done with him.
Impregnating a woman without her consent should be a criminal. I was sickened by it. Such a violation of someone else’s body. I can’t imagine Sookie ever trusting or respecting him again and not even love can overcome that.
And also I think that Sookie and Jackson had a great relationship dating and like a season after but then they just started getting mad at eachother and mad at other a lot more
Sookie and Jackson are both potrayed as silly and quirky and dumb to make Lorelai seems much more together and smart and ”boss lady”, if you get what I mean. Their relationship, although most of the time sweet, seems like something they got into because it was convenient. Like Lorelai made a stupid comment to Sookie about her being alone and then Sookie picked out the first guy that came to mind. Honestly Kirk and Lulu had a better relationship than Sookie and Jackson.
Yesss! Growing up watching this show honestly taught me SO much about what NOT to do in relationships 😂 The incessant hinting that inevitably leads to resentment and anger around your unmet needs...WHO NEEDS IT lol. It's much more productive to be straight up about what you want. I've learned that the people who really love you will often be willing to give what you need or compromise for their needs also. Great video, as usual!
they deserved so much better they were my favorite couple but it slowly deteriorated
I never really liked Jackson and I think Sookie deserves way better. He super immature and even from the start I hated him.
Sookie being like "surprise, you're getting a vasectamy" the first time he's holding his daughter always made me sick. I hated them from that moment on.
I always thought that the whole point of the show is how a lack of communication messes up people and relationships. There aren’t many relationships in the show with good communication. Only 2 romantic ones that I can think of… Richard and Emily (and even that breaks down the moment he feels adrift after retirement) and Babette and her guy. I can’t remember his name right now. Lorelei and Rory have good communication for large chunks of the show, but when that breaks down the show is almost painful to watch (by design I think). I’m not actually arguing with any of your points. I just think it was all by design.
THIS!!! OMG
Morie!
I feel like the writers left in the seventh season just wanted to nuke anything good in the series. I think it was terrible that Jackson lied about something like this, but it was also kind of weird that Sookie scheduled the procedure for him. I sort of feel like the writers sacrificed for manufactured drama to go against the personalities and all known character developments of many characters, especially in the seventh season. They messed up Lane's life too just to heighten the drama. I think it was all kind of cheap on their part, but I get that in some ways they were written into a corner. I feel like they could have fleshed out more of the characters or let some positive things happen.
So the vasectomy thing, characterwise, both bad, her saying he was getting one and him not telling her he didn't get one.
BUT in all fairness, this 3rd pregnancy was to cover up Melissa's real life one I think, so the writers had to make up this bad story plot for them.
the fact that you uploaded this while i’m watching the festival of living art (sookie’s birth episode)
rape by deception is still rape, and it's a damn shame most people refuse to see that. i hated this storyline for that exact reason, but i'm often made to feel overdramatic for stating that. thank you for this video!
i rewatched the dance marathon episode recently and it made me so mad when he yelled at lorelai! like in what world is that appropriate especially in front of so many people! i initially thought sookie and jackson were really cute together but him lying abt the vasectomy was so awful! i am a mom and i know how hard it is on our bodies and mentally. i would never be able to forgive him if i was sookie, he literally got her pregnant without her consent!
I never saw their relationship as cute-even when they were flirting it seemed like all they did was argue.
I think Jackson is pretty immature. :/
but forcing a grown man to have a vasectomy isn't?
@@mewcery no it definitely is haha
Dang i found your videos earlier and have been binging so this is perfect timing lol
Eta I think they were theoretically good together but they're a great example of how sometimes someone seems perfect for you until you're actually together.
They're a great example of how, even if you're great for each other, relationships still require communication skills and compromise!
The other thing which drove home how bad their communication is: they had that scene where they started yelling at Davey to do things when he was too young to understand or do them. And their explanation was "he has to learn." So they aren't just bad at communicating. They've actually deluded themselves into believing that bad communication is *good*, and should be taught to their child.
I kind of wonder if the writers used it as an analog for spanking, since that would have been more controversial. To make it "funny," they invented this other, probably equally terrible form of communicating with young children.
People rushing into getting married, before even trying to live together seems to be a common theme in this show lol
And once again, despite having an unplanned pregnancy, abortion is not even discussed as an option despite Sookie explicitly saying she never wanted to be pregnant again. I know it was different time, but even a ''what are you planning to do?'' would give these characters more agency.
I agree with all this and happy some one mentions it, they both weren't kind and thoughtful to one another needs.
She did not check in with him about getting a vasectomy and if he was ok with it, or talk about alternatives.
The fact she consented to relations believing the circumstances were one way (vasectomy) and it turning out to be a lie is a violation of not just trust by borderline sa and def manipulation.
I completely agree! I want to like them, and they definitely have cute moments early on, but I've always been bothered by the parts you brought up.
I understand him hinting about moving in together, but when she was clearly not understanding what he was trying to ask, he should have just said it. I also always hated his reaction to finding out she was pregnant the first time.
The vasectomy was so much worse, though. While I also didn't like that she told him he was getting one, his lying to her about it is soooo much worse. A comment I saw said it was to cover a real life pregnancy but like they could have just said it failed or something - they didn't have to make him so despicable.
I really like the theme song you made! It's actually really catchy and nice to hear unlike some other CZcamsrs intros
I would’ve left. Straight up filed for divorce. If my HUSBAND lied to me about something as big as birth control, the possibility of me getting pregnant again when I said I don’t want to, I would FUCKING LEAVE HIM. Sure, she should’ve NOT pushed the vasectomy on him suddenly, but at the end of the day she’s the one who has to go through pregnancy all over again!
Love your theme song! Also, your videos.
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Having such a shitty week at work. So glad u uploaded. Love ur videos
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I love this cuz my SO, a guy who has never really watched this show, saw a few episodes here and there as I watched it. He got so invested in their relationship, but hated Jackson in the end.
Firstly, yeay thank you for doing a video on sookie and jackson! Also did you remember their talk about a move in? It was so weird, he commented "my landlord asked if i should pay the rent" and then sookie, pragmatically answers with "well, yes, you love the place, what a silly question". jackson replied "but its a baaaacheloooors pad do you think i should move in in my baaaaaaaaachleoooors pad?". and THEN he was mad because she didn't figure out on her own that he wanted to move in with her! A normal, mature conversation would be "hey, i'm more at your place than i am in mine. what do you think, do you want to move in together?".
their banter was cute when they weren't together, but as a couple you need to figure out how to work on conflicts together and they seemed to be against each other every time we see them on screen. he pulls stuff like this all the time, when he is mad that sookie can't read his thoughts. maybe its a critism to men who think figuring them out is their wifes(/moms) job? Though i actually enjoyed the dialogue with rory, because he was right calling her out on only thinking of herself and her mom and not the adult who was most important to lorelai. i don't think he wanted her to get pregnant, he just didn't want to agree with sookie (as always) and then it was just conveniant for him. like most white cis het males he didn't think his actions had consequences.
stopped listening and just in awe of jackson's snowflake sweater. what an amazing relic.
Jackson honestly always came off as so myopic and controlling, even as early as season two. Guy honestly was such a schmuck with comparatively rare moments of being a decent partner.
I feel like I can only excuse the terrible third pregnancy storyline because Melissa McCarthy in real life got pregnant and they had to come up with something to explain why she was suddenly pregnant. I do not think Jackson got her pregnant on purpose because I truly feel like he was happy with two children already. Remember when Lorelai and Luke have dinner with Sookie and Jackson and they’re having so much trouble already raising two kids as is. Prior to Season 7, I tdo believe that Jackson had the vasectomy as ASP intended. according to Jackson he thought she was on the pill and she thought he had the procedure done. Which means they had been having unprotected sex for over a year. Spring/Summer 2005 to Winter 2006. Which means they would’ve/could’ve gotten pregnant earlier. I think a much better plot line and story would’ve been Jackson’s procedure not being entirely effective. There are cases where a pregnancy can occur after a vasectomy. But clearly the Season 7 writers were in over their head and thought a quirky but yet another clumsy mistake on Jackson’s part would be “funnier” when it really isn’t. Canon-wise, Jackson and Sookie have extremely bad communication problems. I think they were fine together because they have energies that match in terms of emotional chaos. They have good moments like Jackson sleeping with the zucchini to be perfect for the soup for the Dragonfly’s opening. I truly think that they were gonna have miscommunication immediately because of how they began. Why are Sookie and Jackson attracted to each other when they were constantly at each other’s throats when he dropped off produce? It’s supposed to be drama for the sake of humor. Thankfully Sookie and Jackson’s last issue on the show is discussing why she’s so angry at him and they at least begin to talk about it. I can only hope that’s the start of them moving forward.
Yesss, I hate how the writers just threw Jackson under the bus and made it entirely his fault
I hate Jackson as a figure so, so much. It made me so angry how Sookie stayed with him after he practically lied and manipulated her into bearing a third child against her own stated wishes. I think this would be one of the exeptionally rare situations were I personally would resort to violence against another person, because to me, this is such a gigornomous intrusion on another persons body. But, alas. Star's Hollow is filled with mothers who I think would've loved a little bit more personal freedom, and a little less children.
Although I totally agree that lying about the vasectomy was a really shitty move, forcing your husband to do a vasectomy is also a very shitty move, so I guess they both tasted their own medicine.
She did not force him, obviously. He did not went through with it, so she could not have forced him. She did not communicate her needs well, it was a really stupid move to do it like she did, but you know, that's just how he communicated with her as well. Still, lying about the vasectomy is so endlessly much worse, because in the end, a child was conceived that was absolutely not wanted by one of its parents. How does that compare to a vasectomy appointment that he didn't went through with???
I feel like if Sookie was honest with Jackson after the second kid, he would have been more open to getting the vasectomy. Instead of just like, yay we had a baby, now immediately go get a vasectomy. I thought that storyline was weird.
The fact that Jackson also didn't tell Sookie got a vasectomy was messed up. I don't know if I could stay with my partner after something like that. If I had a partner.
The problem with many Gilmore Girls characters is communication. Like Sookie telling Jackson she doesn't want anymore kids and doesn't want to take any more risks so she would like it if he got a vasectomy would've been great. But no she doesn't and schedules it in behind his back, without his knowledge. Then him not getting it instead of just saying that he doesn't want a vasectomy is also just so weird. Then when she gets pregnant, it could've all been avoided if they would've just communicated - the both of them. I do think what Jackson did was (I mean, obviously) way worse, because I mean she becomes pregnant because of his inability to communicate, but I do think you shouldn't overlook her actions, what she did was also shitty and selfish at best.
i love your videos! i have been absolutely bingeing them (not sure if i spelled that right haha). i never noticed this honestly, and i think it’s gross. i’m pretty sure that there are several svu episodes about a topic similar to this. not that this is necessarily like those or that svu is the perfect example, but it goes to show that this behavior is absolutely out of line!
i want to argue that sookie didn’t take jackson’s choice away it’s not like she dragged him to do it she scheduled an appointment she didn’t make him do anything but let’s say she attempted to take his choice away which is wrong to a certain degree he still did whatever he wanted without even telling her, sookie told him what she wanted him to do.
Omg please put a friend's ep up!!
Great video
Jackson was terrible for never telling sookie he didn’t get a vasectomy but sookie is just as bad for springing it on him like that! What sookie did is just as shitty of a thing to do as what Jackson did. I don’t know why fans don’t seem to realize this?
i love the theme song
I feel like a lot of their relationship was meant for comedic relief because they’re both pretty goofy and the arguments they got in were meant to be taken lightly, but I hate how glossed over Jackson lying about the vasectomy was
I feel the same way about Sookie and Jackson as I do about Pam and Jim in the office. Both couples struggle in what I call plot driven, inability to talk.
I personally like watching shows where the characters are not perfect people, so while i don’t agree with Jackson or sookie when it came to how they handled a lot of things. I still think they were a great couple.
I’ve been married 6 years and i think we are learning and growing still and sometimes I’m in the wrong and sometimes he is and a lot of times we both are. But that’s what makes these shows so real to me.
Kierra plz let me know wut microphone u use. It sounds so good!
It’s from the Blue Yeti Aurora collection
Omg I thought the same thing on my last re-watch with the the whole vasectomy thing! That's almost unforgivable imo.
i want to love them but she deserves so much better he bungled it
I’m pretty sure ASP added the third kid because Melissa McCarthy herself got pregnant at the time. She decided to write in Jackson lying about the vasectomy to make the pregnancy make sense, and this is another case where she thought we’d forgive a beloved character for doing something SO bad (like Rory sleeping with Dean) but she was wrong.
I agree with all these points! Their relationship is not one to look up to. Lying about the vasectomy is pretty unforgivable. But, it would be a boring show if everyone was good at communicating and everything went well all the time, so I enjoy the toxic bits 😅
Yes!!! I agree
interesting fact their picnic scene was shot at 1am
i loved them at first but jackson was too much at one point like when he didnt bet on her $800 basket out of pettiness and when he deep fried the turkey knowing good & well that sookie is a professional chef AND ESPECIALLY the vasectomy
I feel like everyone in Gilmore girls acts like the other people are mind readers. Minimal communication and too much asking for forgiveness over permission
Do a video on Tristan or Logan
I agree, I started as a Skokie and Jackson shipper, but after the pregnancy and four in four thing, my ship began to sink.
Sookie's character telling him he is in fact, getting snipped always made me angry....and yes him not telling her the truth is bad...but he had every right to say NO I am not altering my body because YOU decided I should...classic situation where its a breakdown of respect and communication...how are we this into talking about them like they are real? lolol Oh your theme song, hehe love it!! Oh Yeah!!!
i like your videos !
I've never really liked Jackson, it started for me with the pettiness at the basket bid thing.
After all the effort she put in making the basket and him getting mad she didn't understand his hint.
Be more obvious with your hint or just communicate!
I really started to dislike him when he yelled at Lorelai for the 4 in 4 years. Women talk to each other get a grip. If he talks to Lorelai like that in public, how does he talk to Sookie behind closed doors?
The final nail in the coffin for me is when Sookie is on bed rest and Luke is covering. Both Sookie and Jackson are terrible in the episode.
Sookie should have found a replacement and stepped back and Jackson shouldn't speak to Luke like that. Luke is doing them both a favour and they act like total assholes to him.
If I were him I'd have told them both to do one and lose my number.
It's still so weird to me that the homebirth was shown to be abnormal as this is really normal in my country
They were both on the wrong. You cannot force someone (even if they are your husband!) to get a vasectomy. Sookie forced him to go with the nurse. Therefore, I can't blame him for not getting it, he didn't want to do it in the first place. Nevertheless, this doesn't give him a pass for lying to her about it. A couple should be honest and upfront with everything that revolves around their sexual life. Especially if the consequence of their actions is a child.
Man, everyone keeps visiting these doctors who give out GG prescriptions. I gotta find one!
Oh goodness, I'm going to admit something, I've never seen season 7 of Gilmore Girls in it's entirety. I've only seen the first and last episodes of season 7. I didn't like where it was going and by that point it didn't feel like Gilmore Girls to me anymore. I'm glad I never did because what the writers did to Sookie and Jackson is awful.
Jackson to me is somewhere up there with Owen hunt from greys
Jackson is literally the worst husband ever. I feel so bad for sookie
I think he got her pregnant. On purpose. However she shouldn't schedule a vasectomy for him either. They aren't transparent and underhanded. They make a lousy couple
During one of my rewatches....medically prescribed by my doctor
If you do merch please put this on your merch I want this on a shirt (trying not to get bots)
I just don't understand why he would assume she would remain on the pill when she thought he was medically sterile. Sure, a lot of women use birth control for other reasons, but just as many if not more women either aren't on birth control because of side effects or don't like being on birth control because of the side effects. Personally, the side effects weren't worth it for me. Of course she wasn't worried about the pill if she thought Jackson was shootin blanks.
I just finished the Gilmore girls and suddenly I was like what happened to max Medina ???? His character deserved more ???like what happened wtf
I know I'm late lol (only finished GG for the first time a few days ago), but iirc Melissa Mccarthy was actually pregnant around the time of baby no.3 so they more or less had to include a third child, even though it didn't fit with Sookie and Jackson's story.
I don't get why they had to go down the "he lied about the vastectomy" route because I'm sure we all ended up hating Jackson for that, but the writers probaly had no clue how else to go about it. Still a bad move tho.
Just my thoughts here, loved the video! Totally agree.
I never liked Jackson, he was aggressive verbally with Spokane too many times, seemed manipulative and was always yelling when upset
I liked Jackson and sookie in the beginning but then yk they had the major down fall
Weird coincidence (or very targeted) the the ad I got before I watched this video had Melissa McCarthy in it
I think it’s unfair to judge Jackson based on that last pregnancy. That pregnancy was written in because McCarthy was actually pregnant. So if Jackson had a vasectomy the only option would be Sookie cheated. But that would destroy the marriage so Jackson had to just not get the vasectomy. If McCarthy hadn’t gotten pregnant in real life, this never would’ve happened therefore I choose to ignore the vasectomy issue.
Now removing that, I love Sookie and Jackson. I love Sookie but she’s insane. And Jackson being Jackson doesn’t stifle that. And Sookie understand and accepts much of Jackson’s oddities as well. I mean, she knew it was making Jackson happy to deep fry the turkey so even if it was eating her up inside, she just let it happen. Let Jackson have his fun. And Jackson knew Sookie wouldn’t rest wondering about Luke’s cooking in the Inn so he takes her over there because goddamit if Sookie wants to try the food she’s trying the food and he’ll make it happen. They’re silly and they’re cute and they love all the hard to accept aspects of each other and support each other endlessly.
I’ve been rewatching and I hate Jackson he’s a complete man child and honestly Sookie is cool in the first couple seasons after that she becomes selfish and irritating
You know at first I wanted to defend their relationship pre-revival, I thought “noooo way, they were adorable in the main show!” and then you brought up the SA. Because yes it is SA to lie about birth control, which Jackson did. So yeah, no defending that. I will say I don’t mind his reaction to her brining up moving in or being pregnant. I think in universe it makes sense that her saying “hey let’s move in” may have caused a moment of panic, but followed up by reflection that made him realize he was all in. But also, the trope of “are they going to break up, then suddenly they’re engaged!” is such a Hollywood favorite. As far as him panicking about the pregnancy, uhm relatable…
i liked jakson all the way until the vasectomy. i was literally shoked that he did that however I also think that suki shouldna have got him into a vasectomy appointment without consulting him first. so it's all a "who's fault" debate, and I personally hate this typpa debates, cause it's probably nobody's fault, it's just how it meant to be.
Jackson was annoying as hell thats my main problem with him and the vasectomy just made me dislike so much more
the vasectomy thing is actually the most disgusting thing ever omg
In my country this could be considered r*pe
Jackson needs to learn to be proper with his wife since she does deserve better than what he gives her.
Only one comment about the he didn't get the vasectomy thing
It wasn't intended its because Melissa was pregnant and they chose to write it in that way (bad writers no gruel for you!)
Sookie was great at first but her relationship with Jackson sucked. It was annoying the way they argued and how easily they got offended about literally anything.
I don’t think he necessarily got her pregnant on purpose but what he did was awful. I get not wanting to tell her no when she’s just given birth but women can’t have sex for weeks after childbirth so he had weeks to come clean before there was a risk of consequences.
communication is a HUGE issue in almost all gilmore girls relationships but esp sookie and jacksons to me bc they never really 'talk it out'. jackson dotes on sookie as if shes a child a LOT of the time. dont get me wrong, its good to care for your wife, but hes very demeaning and belittling
I really didn’t like how Jackson acted, he is a true man child
Idk I’m a little unpopular here. Jackson is sassy and I kinda like that. Sookie is clumsy, very obsessive compulsive, and a tad bit explosive. Jackson is explosive too but not in a violent threatening way. He’s not afraid to loudly voice his opinion to Lorelai, Rory, Luke, Taylor, Chris, Sookie, anybody. Jackson wasn’t broody, moody, elusive. I thought their arguments were cute and a lot of times they were both being thoughtful in their own way. Jackson bein mad that Rory didn’t consult Sookie, Jackson insisting on making Sookie a meal, Sookie insisting on redecorating her home for Jackson, Jackson panicking and wanting to make everything safe and right for their first child. They’re chaotic and even awful sometimes but that’s…life. And I love the episode where Jackson helps Sookie see that she hadn’t forgiven him. A lot of guys do something wrong and act like they don’t know why their partner is upset. Jackson was extremely imperfect but wasn’t a malicious person. At the core he really loved Sookie and it shows in the way he treated her overall.
Please please pleaseeee do a Videoinhalt Tristan and anybody like this if you want it too
I never liked Jackson
What people fail to realize with Sookie and Jackson ..Jackson was a strong, alpha male when dealing with his relationship with Suki, but slowly overtime she weaken him and he became this pathetic type of man that does what she wants whenever she wants it, and how she wants it .I like when he was strong with her
No for real tho!!
Sookie sucked 🙈🙈