Virtual Pinball Flipper Feedback Part 2!!! 12V Solenoids VS Thunderclaps
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
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Sup gang, I just wanted to address the fact that during the video playback, the audio during gameplay doesn't necessarily sync up with the solenoid sounds for some reason. The reality is there is no delay whatsoever and the flippers are instantaneous and in sync with the solenoid feedback.
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Nice video. I like watching your mods.
My man, thank you.
Fantastic Scantron! I really appreciate you making this video.. Cant wait to get mine up and running!!
No problem bro! Thanks for sending the parts and inquiring. I'm sure you will love them.
@@Scantron5k Just got them installed. HOLY SMOKES! These are a MUST HAVE to anyone who is watching this video. Super easy install and well worth the small price tag to make the modification.
@@DeltaAirbusFlyer dude, you're not kidding! Love them.
Sweet selonoids!!! Great vid my man!!!
Lmao thanks broham!
Nice video Scan !
I have a 12V rail in my cab and use these for flippers, bumpers, and slings. All run though Cleveland Software extender boards. My table absolutely rocks at medium to high volumes. Just need better speakers now. There isn o perfect solution - the Thuderclaps seem more elegant, but for pure noise and feedback its hard to beat these $10 solenoids!
I've been using ten Ford SW3 solenoids in my cab for two years now. On average, one fails per year, but they are so inexpensive at $10 each, and readily available everywhere, it's no big deal. I just keep a couple of spares on hand. I also found the SW3's are more responsive than Siemens contactors to fast flipper operation, similar to what you see with the Thunderclaps.
Initially I used a Sainsmart driver board, but individual Sainsmart mechanical relays would wear out and break over time - three failed in less than two years - so I replaced it with mosfet drivers, which have been rock solid.
I totally agree. They are sooo worth it compared to many other expensive alternatives. And the feedback is much better.
I’ve got em on my Vpin, they are a little clacky sounding but very responsive. You can program the solenoids to fire off and then shut off to prevent them from burning out. The controls are on your pinscape I believe.
So far no issues. I'm loving the feedback. Thanks for the comment, homie.
Catching up on my CZcams finally!! Before I finish watching just wanted to jump in and say in my Vpin I built I’ve got the starter solenoids and I love ‘em! Mine have black housings but same-same I think…
Ok yeah those solenoids do have different acoustics…very nice!
Yeah man, I remember talking to you about this last year! I was hesitant because of overheating due to the amount of activity the flippers get, but then I realized that extreme gaming cabinets uses these exact solenoids for their entire cabinet build, including flippers, I was like fuck it. I'm loving them so far.
Enjoyed the video. Just wanted to point out that you can get 24 Volt solenoids almost as easily as 12 volt ones. Auto parts store can get them, but I'd try somewhere that sells HD truck parts as they should stock them. They're a bit more expensive, but you'd eliminate the need for the 24V to 12V transformers and they'll likely be rated for continuous duty so you could hold the flipper all day without overheating one.
Hey man, thanks. I actually did look into the 24-volt solenoids. The problem is they were more expensive and there were no guarantees on the open hold so I decided to go with something that was tried and true. But I agree, I wouldn't mind giving a heavy duty 24 volt solenoid a shot just to see what happens.
Thanks for the video! I think I read that you are upgrading to the Ultra VP 6.0 unit. Are you planning to perform this same upgrade on the 6.0 unit, stick with the factory contactors for flippers, or go with the solenoid upgrade option being offered by RRW?
Thanks for the view! So the solenoid upgrade offered by RRW is because of this review lol. But yeah, I'll be doing the solenoid mod for sure. No question about it.
@@Scantron5k Thanks! Lol good to know. I was wondering if the RRW solenoid upgrade option uses the same solenoids that are on the rest of the game or the 12v ones you use here. I really like the difference in sound that the flipper solenoids make versus the ones in the rest of the game. That sound difference between solenoids seems closer to how a real pin sounds.
Do you feel that the SW3 solenoids are best for the flippers but you should still use Thunderclaps or something else for the rest of the cabinet?
I believe they are hands down best for flippers. I do not use Thunderclaps any longer. Just different solenoids for the additional cabinet feedback.
Have you seen the solenoid life extender boards I sell on Cleveland Software Design? They are specifically designed to prevent them from overheating over time. They don't overheat right away because of how massive they are, but after 20 minutes of play, you will notice them getting quite hot, and they will actually fail due to heat after a while.
Haven't seen them. How much are they and how easy are they to install?
@@Scantron5k They are simple to install, they just go in between your power and the solenoid. The two position one is $20, if you send me a note on my website I'll send you one to try out if you want.
@@clevelandsoftwaredesign will they also work in line with the voltage reducers that I'm using in my video? I wouldn't be opposed to making a review video of these things for you if I like the product. I can drop you a note on your website if that works.
@@Scantron5k Yes they should work in line with the voltage reducers just fine. They are designed for 12V, so you will want to hook them up on the 12V side between the solenoid and the voltage reducer.
@@clevelandsoftwaredesign sounds good man. I dropped you a line on your website. I'm only using two solenoids for the flippers, so I wasn't sure what you had in mind as far as giving me a test run but I'm happy to report back!
Wanting to buy the solenoid and the converter. Having a difficult time finding the converter. I think you said it was a kit on amazon. Could you please send me the link. Thanks in advance
Roger
Hey man, the link to purchase everything you need is in the description of this video. All of it is purchasable on amazon.
Whats up Scantron5k
Who sells that pinball machine And where can you purchase it
There's a link to my full review video in the description for this vid. Just click the link and it'll have all the details as to where you can purchase this machine.
I need to add some solenoids for bumpers. Would you recommend these for the bumpers? I could move my current solenoids back for bumpers, but I like how these sound. What do you think?
Some builders use these solenoids on their entire cabinet. Highly recommend them. I would especially use them for flippers but you can't go wrong using them for everything else.
@@Scantron5k Got 3 of these ordered, will get them in this weekend. How do you have bumpers configured in DOF? There are settings for back, middle, and rear. Can I map all three zones to the 3 solenoids?
@@jrelyea nice. And I'm not sure about the DOF settings. Never messed with them.
@@Scantron5k So I got this hooked up and I really like them. Nice punch, better than the original stock Arcade 1up solenoids. Having an issue since install though, which may be EMI related. My KL25Z board disconnects sometimes when the solenoids fire. Also noticed that my LEDs, which are hooked up to 5V from the same power supply, dim when the new solenoids activate. I've ordered a new power supply and some usb cables with ferrite chokes, as some have suggested. Anyways, I see that your voltage reducer is 2A. The solenoids are 6A. No issues with that I assume?
@@jrelyea no issues whatsoever with my setup. I'm glad you like them. I'm assuming your new power supply will do the trick.
Would you change the other solenoids in the Vpin?
Nope, I like the distinction in feedback between the flippers and the rest of the machine.