How to Pick: XP 3.0, Lite or Premium Lectric ebike
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- čas přidán 11. 12. 2022
- You’re set on Lectric but don’t know which model to get. Let’s get you started on making that decision. Only get the Lite if…
0:38 Why I didn't buy a Lectric bike
2:29 By default, start with the 3.0 and then deviate from there
3:00 Do not get the 2.0
3:17 Which is the best value?
3:32 Lite overview
3:43 Biggest regret of ebike buyers
4:18 Many bikes are 65-80lbs
5:29 Smaller motor isn't as bad as you think
5:49 Why marketing for a single gear bike is complete garbage
6:52 Don't get the Premium just b/c you think it's high end
7:47 Fat tire bikes are seriously big bikes
9:21 Fat tire bikes are not here to stay
9:54 What's so good about the Premium?
10:43 What are you getting on the 3.0 vs the Lite for $200?
11:40 3.0 is the only model rated for a passenger
11:58 You may not really want a passenger as much as you think you do
14:00 Determine how you will ACTUALLY use the bike - not how you WANT to
14:43 You may not want an electric bike at all.
14:58 Go ride a regular bike before you buy an ebike
16:00 Summary
17:02 Do not upgrade the Lite to be like the 3.0!
17:35 20mph is enough
17:53 Bicycle helmets are only rated for 20mph (most)
18:23 Suspension is overrated.
20:13 Warning, do not get the Carry Package for the Lite
21:08 Really?
21:45 Do not buy a second battery for the Lite!
22:35 Who is the Lite for?
22:42 Battery capacity on the Lite is super-small
23:49 Lite can be ridden as a regular bike?
24:48 Do not ride an ebike w/o a battery installed - Zábava
Sir, you did a really nice job on this, and I feel very informed. Thank you for creating this reference.
No problem! Glad you found it useful. With all the e-bike hype these days, so many people are going to be buying the wrong then (and already are). So just hoping to help out at least a few people from making the mistake of getting something way too big and way too heavy for their needs or to expect too much out of whatever they're buying. At the end of the day, it's still a bicycle and not a moped.
I love your freaking honesty. You have no filter and I love that.
Haha. Just calling it as I see it
I've been kicked out of at least 3 Facebook Groups just for speaking my mind. Saying how it is. Some people don't like hearing what they need to hear. They're a little confused between what they WANT to hear and what they NEED to hear. You'd be surprised how many people are just looking for validation and cheerleading. I'm definitely not a channel for those folks.
You might not have an ebike but you give the most comprehensive review of them. Thank you for this. I was unsure of which would be best for me and I have watched many reviews. Yours is the best!
Cool, thanks! Glad it was helpful.
I’ve got a DIY ebike conversion from 14 years ago and more recently a Juiced Rip Racer and have always had my eye on the Lectric brand which I hear has amazing customer service. Value is definitely there. I’m tempted to get the XPedition which was released after my video here was published.
Excellent video! Really appreciate your honest and pragmatic approach.
Thanks for taking a second to comment. Sometimes I wonder if people are actually watching these. Glad you found it helpful. Are you a first time buyer or do you have ebikes already?
@@Funcentric I will soon be a first time buyer once I figure out which one to get.
@@MrEric0576 I see. Cool. The biggest two things to remember is that the biggest regret new buyers have is the size of the bike is to large or that it's too heavy or both. Also be sure to budget in some dollars for accessories like an ebike helmet if you plan to go faster than 20mph, phone holder, lock, etc.
Thanks for the information. Great video
Cool! Thanks for taking the time to let me know. I'm waiting for my XPedition to be delivered. Finally did it after selling one of my recumbent trikes. These rides can get quite expensive. Good luck with your search/purchase.
Great video - I made sure to give you a thumbs up. I have a Lite and from 1st hand experience I can say it's a great grocery getter. I have a rear rack and Bushwacker panniers - they work great. The extra weight isn't enough to make a difference, even when loaded. I also have an extra battery, and again I would recommend it. I have one on the bike and one on the charger. I never have to wait to charge, I can always just get on and go. If anyone is looking for an ebike that is user friendly, doesn't weigh a lot, and doesn't require a hitch and rack, the Lite is a great option.
Thanks, if I were to ever get a Lectric bike, it would definitely be the Lite.
I have an XP Lite that I use when RVing, storing it folded in the back of my Jeep, all towed behind my 35' Class A motorhome. Real world on flat trails, I get 30 miles range. I'm 76 years old and found that it was getting too strenuous to lift my old Juiced Oceancurrent ebike on the heavy Hollywood rack on the back of the motorhome. (The rack was even higher on top of a splitter that had the car's towbar attached to the bottom. I'd often move the rack to the Jeep when settled.) I've gotten used to its one gear and even rode it all around the Vancouver, BC harbor area without the motor because the controller stopped working, but had to walk it up the Lion's Gate Bridge incline from North Vancouver. Now that I replaced the warranty controller, the bike rides great.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience. For those who aren’t as concerned about the weight, I’ve been recommending people at least look at the Juiced Rip Racer for $1,000 before discounts and tax.
I just placed an order for the 3.0 long range, but was on the fence about the premium. I appreciate your video, because I feel I made the right decision for me. Thanks!
Awesome! Congrats! You’ll get the one with the new hydraulic brakes.
Hi @@Funcentric and thanks! Yes, the hydraulic brakes are a nice along with the longer range. The premium has the mid-drive and amazing 100 m. range, but pretty heavy and I have to go up a flight of stairs after rides. Definitely a tough choice, both great options. :) I can hardly wait!
@@jo-annemurray5923 don’t expect claimed ranges to be real though.
@@Funcentric how much less would you say? 50%? 75%? I have a no name ebike that has grossly exaggerated the bike's true stats. It took a little time to learn how to ride an ebike correctly shifting and using lower pedal assist to improve the distance, but still not anywhere close. I understand about variables, but why do companies stretch the truth like that? Thanks for all the information!
@@jo-annemurray5923 70% ish from what people say. The math is volts x ah / 20. And then change the 20 factor to whatever suites your terrain, weight, speed, etc.
Bro this was an excellent video
Cool, glad you found it helpful.
I was thinking of getting the Lite model because of its lighter weight and because it fits all of the things for my use that you described, especially being able to lift it to and from my SUV’s trunk. I do plan on taking it places at times in my SUV or by riding the e-bike on flat surfaces. However, you stumped me when you recommended not getting a second battery. I plan on doing some lengthier e-bike outings at times (like I used to do when I was younger in age with a regular bike.) I’m 70 and still ride my regular bike but it’s gotten
harder for me to go on outings. My thinking has been I would purchase and when needed attach a rear carrier rack over the rear tire of the Lite for those outings, one as lightweight as possible, to carry with me a second battery when needed. When I would not be going on a longer outing, I would take the rear carrier off and not carry an extra battery. I only weigh 135 lbs I can’t imagine once in awhile adding a temporary rear carrier with an extra Lite battery with a light cover around it would significantly detract from the bike’s handling…when the bike is made for others who weigh a lot more than me. Is my thinking rational that in my case I am someone who possibly could carry an extra battery without any drawback? I look forward to your opinion. -Jeff
Lite sounds like a good match. If hauling a carrier isn't going to be the norm and just an every now and then scenario, and all else fits perfectly, I would have no hesitation.
Think of it like a city dweller with a Honda Fit and takes it to the snow. Surely, he'd be better off with a 4WD SUV for those outings to the snow. But 95% of the time, he's in a non snowy city looking for parking where a large car would be a huge drawback. I'd say decide on a ride for the best use case that you'll anticipate for a majority of the rides and you'll just make do with the minority scenarios.
I drive an i3 electric car and people laugh at the range of 73mi. But I drive way less than that daily and parking is a breeze. I'd hate to have a heavier (worse handling), more expensive car I can barely afford that's too big for parking spaces in the City just so I can make the occasional 100mi + trip. If I'm going somewhere far like 500 mi away, I have zero issue spending the money I saved in ownership of the used car and renting a car for the 1% of the time I go on long trips.
I think the same is with you. If the Lite fits a vast majority of your needs and in the best way possible, don't worry about the minority scenarios.
If you do get a second battery and carry it with you, just be prepared for lower performance due to the weight itself and the distribution. You'd also have to charge twice unless you plan to have two chargers to charge them both at once. Remember though, you also have to store the battery. They don't do well sitting around charged or uncharged (ideally 70%). So you maintaining the battery is something to consider. You'd probably end up swapping batteries regularly to keep them each in use even when your trip only requires 1 battery. A second battery is more of a headache to deal with than you might anticipate.
Coming from a guy who owns dozens of different sized batteries for various drones and rc cars. If you're up for the task of maintenance and storage, go for it. Just don't forget to think about that. Majority of the time, the battery won't be in use, so storage and maintenance is a big deal. No one talks about it b/c it doesn't get youtube views and doesn't sell well. But that's the truth.
@@Funcentric Thanks for you well thought out and detailed response and for your great video! Very helpful and thought provoking. I appreciate the time and effort you put into your site and your honesty!
@@JazzmanJeff Yeah, it's hard to find people who actually review stuff. So many ads out there disguised as reviews. I started this channel b/c I got tired of everyone's secret agendas.
Get the lite. I got the 3.0 and wished I got the lite. Should have gone with my instinct. Now I ended up picking up a cute little bike at Costco Jetson Haze for easier pickup for travel.
@@rimalaw77 Cool, great return policy and that's foldable too!
This is a great video! Especially for older people looking for an eBike. Your honesty is great! Especially, when you asked...What are you going to do on this OR what do you "think" you are going to do with this bike? I thought I would be able to do everything the guys in the videos could do. WRONG! You are really right with the fact that these bikes are HEAVY! The are VERY HEAVY! I suggest people go to a eBike shop before they order one online, to see just how big and heavy these bikes are. You are the first reviewer to mention that you shouldn't ever ride a bike without the battery in it. Good point!! Now that I've owned an Ebike for awhile, you hit many points that I didn't think about or have any idea about. I wish I had seen your video, before I purchased my eBike. Especially about the thought of purchasing a 2nd battery. Mine was 1/2 off, so it did make sense, but honestly, I don't need it. Again, I thought I would be riding miles and miles with my bike. Wrong! I bought the dual suspension, because I have Fibro. a Cloud 9 seat with a compression post, would have been good enough for me and I would have saved a chunk of change. Another thought is....if my community had trails paved trails and off road trails, I would be needing suspension, hydraulic brakes, etc. but we have no tra
Yeah, I just don't want people falling into the hype. My channel ended up being a lot about that. I fall into the hype sometimes too and there are few people out there saying so. Most "reviews" are actually just ads suggesting you go to their link to buy the bike. Lots of rereading of specs, but that doesn't actually help real life consumers I feel.
This is really good, thank you. You mention the weight of the premium. But what about for the 3.0, is the weight going to seem heavy, as compared to the lite. Seems you're saying if you are going to use the bike as a regular bike at times the lite is the way to go (because of the weight) even though you have seven gears on the 3.0, is that correct?
Great, glad it was helpful. The 3.0 is like most budget ebikes in this category these days and weigh 60-70lbs. The Lite is significantly lighter and is closer to a weight of a heavy regular mountain bike. I would highly advise against trying to ride any ebike with more than 10ah as a regular bike. These are really meant for PAS to be used. Riding on PAS 0 to start off is a myth and can be quite dangerous. Two wheeled vehicles will have the most stability at speed. When you have something heavy like this, the tipping point will really cause the bike to collapse and it's much harder to get back to center.
You will max out quicker on climbs not only b/c of the lack of gearing on the Lite but also the motor size, torque and overall it's not meant to be a hill climber.
Thanks. To clarify, are you saying you also can't ride the Lite as a regular bike with no petal assist? Or you're saying you can't do that with the 3.0 but you can with the Lite? I am new to ebikes. I was using a budget mountain bike to commute to work 2 miles away but started to really enjoy the exercise. Sometimes I like riding this way but other times I need to get somewhere faster without sweating. Could I still use the 3.0 for exercise sometimes? Thanks again@@Funcentric
@@jonbonker the latter. But plenty of people would argue with me. I would never recommend to ride a 60lb bike with no pedal assist and no throttle for a beginner.
Great video! I’m a mountain biker (not a E MTB) and race them. When I’m not on my MTB I ride a E Bike. My wife has. The XP 2.0 and she loves it and she’s new to bikes. I ordered the XP 3.0 because I’m more experienced rider😄
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful.
I was gonna get the juice e-bike but I went with the Lectric xp step thru 3.0 long range in black.
Whats your thoughts on adding a second battery to the lite?
Just got the dual battery expedition I’ve only put 52 miles on it so far so not to much to review except for the battery range as it’s sold on you can get 100 mile range in pedal assist 2 150 in 1 I don’t know about that but in pedal assist 3 I got 48 miles with maybe 2-5 miles before VOL hit 0 on my commute to and from work for the price versus other class 3 E bikes were a bit out of my budget I do have another E bike by Rad the expand at that has a single battery and I still get 55 mile range so I was looking for a cargo with a nice range and should of stuck with Rad and their cargo bike but got sold on speed lol I did a lot of research on a lot of the ebikes around the same price and I’d have to probably recommend Rad overall but I got a Black Friday deal on the Lectric so it came with all the accessories for free I didn’t put any on besides the seat but I live in Denver so the slicks on it doesn’t do so great in wet conditions there are a few others out there the Heybike and co-op from REI that are pretty decent but a couple hundred bucks for a bit more quality as Rad and Lectric as in house service departments for easy access to replacement parts and upgraded accessories versus the competitors I may do a RAD vs Lectric but all still depends on the persons own needs to what it’s for a commuter or a casual ride.
A few reasons why Radpower Radwagon is objectively worse in comparison. Proprietary tire size is the main one which limits the choices and makes replacements for maintenance or repair difficult. Center of gravity is higher which makes the learning curve that much more difficult. It is known to have the spring prematurely break as I’ve seen many owners complain about.
Other reasons XPedition is far superior but those are just some of the objective ones.
Have a 3.0 looking at a Rip racer. Which would you go with?? Would love a comparison video between the two 😊
No comparison. The Juiced products are in a whole different league. Not worth comparing. Lectric is a budget brand. Juiced is a performance brand.
Hey, I met you in GGP while I was riding my xpremium. I wish this video was available before I bought mine - you’re totally right that it’s a very heavy bike. Kinda underpowered for its weight.
Hey Jim! Nice seeing you on here! I already have two other ebikes, but if I got a Lectric, it would be the Lite mostly for my wife or any guest riders. I imagine I'd love it too. For utility though, definitely something more powerful. SF hills can be tough!
GREAT video. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it. Hope it was helpful.
Great video 😂I bet e-bike companies don’t you to see this lol, the way you broken down what your needs are is absolutely the way to choose a bike thanks I’m buying two bike for her and me and considering the juiced bike so well done 🎉
Thanks. There are too many ads out there on CZcams disguised as reviews. Just gotta do my part in actually helping people to provide what they need so they're not buying the wrong thing. The number one mistake/regret people have with an ebike which I see plastered all over Facebook is that the bike is too big and they're selling it. Used bikes aren't worth much with the prices they've come down to so people take a huge hit.
I have a couple videos on the Juiced bikes too in case you find those helpful. Be very aware it's single gear. I'll be putting gears on it, but not for another year. I'll probably do a video then. But for now, I gotta keep my warranty valid.
If you're getting two bikes, I'd highly recommend getting to different ones.
Hi, thanks for the video. The one concern I have with the lite is no fenders. My Dahon folder has fenders and I don't like the idea of not having fender. Can you address that concern?
You can always add fenders but I think they’re over rated. I wouldn’t recommend the Lite for off-road use.
I got a juiced rip racer like yours. I was wondering if you can upgrade to 7 speed.
Yes, join the Facebook groups to learn how. I’ll be doing it when the warranty expires. I’ll do a video then but that’s not going to be for awhile since I just got it not that long ago.
Not sure about someone speaking and rating bikes that he doesn't even own. I was trying to decide between the Premium and the XP about a year ago. I finally bought the Premium and am I ever glad I did. I just love how whisper quiet it is while it is delivering its smooth power assist. And the range is so awesome. Yes, it is a heavy bike and I do regularly lift it and put it in the back of my Ford Flex. But the extra weight of an e-bike is so worth it to me. I used to load in my Trek bicycle but I wouldn't ride very long before I was ready to go back to the car and load it up. Now with my Premium I can ride and ride and I feel years younger with my energy level. I usually ride in Pedal Assist 3 and ride for hours and hours. I can ride multiple times before I even have to think about recharging the batteries. I also think the 4 inch tires are needed because some of the roads have broken glass and metal debris to ride over. And sometimes you get going pretty fast downhill. I am really glad the bike feels so stable traveling at those speeds and knowing you have very strong and capable hydraulic brakes to stop you when you need them.
I did finally take delivery of my first Lectric bike a couple days ago. Wasn’t released yet at the time of my video, XPedition cargo bike. Having two other very different bikes and having been riding e-bikes since 2009 gives a good sense of what to look for and what to avoid.
Glad your choice has worked out for you. Most people won’t be happy with a Premium though. E-bikes are still very much misunderstood. Expectations are unfortunately not well aligned with actuality for most consumers. Again, glad you found a good fit. That’s important.
@@Funcentric Glad to see you buy a Lectric bike. I think you will be impressed with the quality build. Also you whispered that you thought the bikes looked ugly. I just wanted to respond to that. I can't tell you how many times people have stopped me and said what a nice looking bike. I mean lots of people! My bike is white with blue trim and I do think it looks way better than the black ones. Just saying. I just love my bike. I would be riding more but I live around San Antonio and we are in the middle of some sort of heat wave pattern. It's been in the hundreds for a couple of weeks and looks like we might have a few more weeks of this! Still riding though. Really relying on that pedal assist. Welcome to the Lectric family!
@@bradybunch84a Thanks, the sounds coming from the cables and zip ties inside the frame of the XPedition make it feel and sound very cheap. Brakes are terrible too but maybe I need to make more adjustments.
The look of the Lectric bikes are just very generic. It definitely doesn’t shout quality particularly compared to something like a Juiced bike.
Not to take away your thunder, but if e-bikes are rare where you live, then it’s likely they’re just making conversation or suggesting that it’s cool that you have an ebike at all. Nothing wrong with that. But with what’s available in the market, Lectric definitely doesn’t win any awards for aesthetics by comparison.
This is all to be expected since they are a budget brand new to the industry.
@@Funcentric What do you do with all your e-bikes? Just curious why buy so many. BTW. I take my e-bike with me wherever I go, I am retired and travel. The compliments I have received were in Albuquerque, Topeka, Des Moines, and around San Antonio. I pretty much just keep my bicycle folded up in my car.
@@bradybunch84a My Instagram shows how they’re stored/displayed in the garage. I have the smaller ones up on the wall and the cargo bike sits on the floor beneath it.
My Trek DIY conversion from 14 years ago is for longer distances. The Juiced Rip racer is when I ride locally on my own. And the XPedition is for hauling the kids in town.
I’m planning on buying a 3.0
I don't remember if the sale is still going on, but the most recent one was definitely a good one.
Talked the entire time about the Lite version. Never said who should buy the Premium
Yes i did forget to talk more about that. I don’t really recommend the premium to anyone. It was Lectric’s way of feeling the waters. It’s their slowest selling model. Really way too heat and too big. Even the people who have it don’t want it.
Most ebike buyers these days are new to cycling. They’re not going to have the best experience with a cheap mid drive and wouldn’t know how to appreciate it. Anyone looking to get a mid drive should probably look at other brands.
I’ll likely be sharing this to help others make their decision.
3.0 owners here. Long range batteries plus spares.
Why? Hills, range, & twins.
Cool. Glad you find this helpful.
Best video
So I called the company a couple times I'm wondering about the handlebars they seem pretty far away. So they said all you could just go ahead and buy an aftermarket bar. And the other thing is the return policy is very very very very very very strict so I'm having a problem with even considering buying this bike. I'm in Orlando they said you could go rent one in the in the Palm Coast that's ridiculous so I'm going to go to Palm Coast here in Florida to rent a bike that I might buy
Return policy is the pretty much the same with all the companies. You have the best luck with an American company so it may not be "the best", but it's the best relative to what's available.
Yes you can also get a new stem to move the existing bar closer to you. The reach should be pretty generic and fit most people though.
Ridiculous to rent a bike as a test ride? Not sure I understand.
I agree with most points made here. But fat tires may not be a trend. They act as cheap suspension for smaller bumps in the road (especially if not over inflated). Also they give you better performance in snow, loose dirt, sand etc. Also they are less likely to get stuck in obstacles in the road. One of my worst bike accidents ever was when my hybrid bike front tire got stuck in a grate and I flew over the handlebars :(. That wouldn't have happened on a fat tire.
Edit: Also, the added weight of an additional battery isn't a big deal. The total weight my bike, myself, and equipment altogether is over 300 lbs. Do you really think an added 9 lbs is going to make a big difference in range?
I think 2.75-3” would be a good compromise for size to address the environment you’re talking about. Most people aren’t going to be riding e-bikes on snow however.
There’s definitely a place for particular bikes of certain specs for certain use cases but most people are just riding in the city. No dirt, no gravel, no snow.
@@Funcentric - I live on the outskirts of a big city and ride off-road through dirt, gravel and grass to take short cuts when heading downtown. Our bike infrastructure is pretty spotty. But maybe the size you mention is a better size for many. Never tried that size before
@@yogiyodaI do like the fat tire for suspension use more than my "less fat tire" Lectric Xpedition for sure. The Juiced bikes are better built to begin with though so needs less of anything.
@@Funcentric - Also, the added weight of an additional battery isn't a big deal. The total weight my bike, myself, and equipment altogether is over 300 lbs. Do you really think an added 9 lbs is going to make a big difference in range?
@@yogiyoda Yes. The battery needs to carry its own weight before you'll see any improvement in range. Highly inefficient. Same as a full sized electric vehicle. The bigger the battery, the less efficient. It's like having a 25gallon gas tank except gas burns and gets lighter whereas a battery does not.
What you said about the second battwry doesnt sound right.
The logic is the same as an EV. The larger the battery, the less efficient because of the added weight.
I ditched tge idea of getting a bike. Its cold n the buses does just fine. Thanks for the insights
Sure! I just saved you $1,500! Haha.
Now that I'm seeing all the ebikes on there market that look almost EXACTLY like Lectric ebikes, I'm convinced that they are really just remarketing Chinese ebikes, with their brand name slapped on them.
No, that’s not how the process works. Companies license the design and work with manufacturers to customize them. The Lectric controller has a custom tune. Many American companies do include Juiced. Also American companies oversee quality control and have American standards. That’s why we buy from them instead of the junk from Amazon.
Arma, Senton tools ?
Errr, wrong video? For RC tools, I'd look for hex tools on Aliexpress for about $8 a set or Amazon for maybe $14?
If you have to go to a second floor of an apartment stairs would the LECTRIC 3.0 be too heavy for healthy adult male?
100% too heavy even for a weight lifter.
Looks like the 3.0 long range is the one.
Cool, glad you found the one you want.
I vote for electric 3.0 that’s the bike I want
Cool, will. you be buying one soon?
I disagree with your talking about the weight. Saying 8lbs is going to change the entire bike is crazy. Also saying an 8lbs extra battery with a battery splitter is insane!!!!!!!! You can double your distance with a simple 8lbs battery.
No you can’t. It has it carry its own weight before you see a difference. It gets less efficient. You can double the range only if the battery weighed nothing. Same principle with EV’s. It’s not really anything to agree or disagree about. Just physics.
I wanted a Juiced but NO ONE will work on them.
That’s true of most e-bikes. Local bike shops don’t want to be responsible for damages they cause to electronics. You’ll have the same issue with any ebike.
When you reach 70, you need suspension. You'll agree someday.
Haha. You’ré probably right.
@@Funcentric I wasn't shopping for a new bike but getting on and off my "mountain" ebike was getting iffy and the hardtail was shortening my spine. And fenders would be nice. I looked at Lectric, but $$$. Then I was amazed to see a very similar bike that ticked all the boxes at a price I could afford. Vivi FM20. So, my mountain bike will get a new home.
Been looking at these and yea, the looks are generic for sure.
I don’t have a Lectric but I trust the company. Been dabbing into other brands and discussions on Facebook and this one has more legit owners who actually like them. I would be weary of China brands. You want an American company as a second layer of protection and service. China won’t do quality control on their own. If i had to go with a Chinese company though, I’d have my eyes in Mokwheel or a Magicycle. Still a risk though.
@@Funcentric I have been looking at tons of bikes. Was set on the Ariel but ended up with a I.C.E. Scoot. Need to get a bike to do GGP. Was thinking of doing a conversion on my Specialized thats been sitting idle. We will see.
Your leaving out the cargo
Check the date. It’s before the cargo one came out. Cargo though is a very different type of bike. I don’t think people will necessarily be comparing the Expedition with the other Lectric lineup. Maybe Expedition with Abound and Radpower offerings though.
If I can get my hands on an Expedition, I’ll be sure to produce a video.
I have an overwhelming desire to take the text of your presentation and run a pencil line through 60% of it.
Great video and a big help choosing the right folder. My daughter needs light weight but also wants the bike for grocery shopping (i.e. a rack w/ basket) and a folder that she can take on the bus to work. It's not easy to find one lightweight bike that fills all her needs.
Glad it helped. Sounds like you have your eyes set on a Lite then or completely other brand. Sometimes the best way to find what you want is to identify what you don't want. The 3.0 I'm sure you have determined will be way too heavy. In your daughter's situation, it seems the weight is a bigger priority than the utility. So maybe light storage on a rear rack with the Lite.
FYI, if you have your eyes on the Costco Jetson Haze, just know it's 36v. All the Jetson bikes are 36v I believe which will be quite underwhelming as far as performance is concerned. But if small package is what she needs, maybe she can find a way to test one out.
I got a 3.0 and while waiting for it to come got the Haze bc they had price drop to 499.99 (back up now but they do them periodically) and I LOVE IT!! I think it’s more fun than the 3.0 and much lighter more nimble. My advice keep the bike UNDER 50 pounds! So I’d chose the lite if I could do it all over again.
@@rimalaw77 You'd choose the Lite if you could do it over again, or choose the Haze? Not clear on your last comment.
@@rimalaw77 you bring up an interesting topic. Interesting how there aren't any videos comparing the Haze with the Lite side by side. I suppose each have their own advertisers ("reviewers"). Would be nice to see some comparisons from real people for real people. Unfortunately, I don't have access to either and aren't in the market to purchase either one at the moment.
@@Funcentric I meant if I could do it all over again I would not have purchased a 3.0 and maybe if I would’ve purchased the Lite I would not have purchased the Haze. That being said, I love the Haze and I after using it for five days around 4 miles a day I still have two bars. Mostly using PAS 2 (50-55%) PAS 3 (20%) PAS 1 (10%) and throttle (15-20%). Another reviewer speaks highly of the OneBot and they look interesting (the normal tires not fat tires). Anything over 3 is ridiculous and even past 2.5 is unnecessary.