Dyno Day #2. White 185, Oliver 1955 and 2255
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2019
- My cousin finished the fuel system rebuild on his 185, so we put it back on the dyno to see what kind of improvement there is. I got my 1955 FWA and my 2255 FWA out to see what they are made of, and the 2255 gave me a bit of a surprise.
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Man that 2255 is awesome . If I ever got our family farm in Chelsea back I’d want one even with it being pure overkill
Love your tractors. Like to hear them under load.
Thanks Chris now I'll be up half the nite watching all your other videos! lol
Love watching that smoke roll out of them pipes!
Man I am so happy I have found your channel! This is hands down my new favorite CZcams channel I just found it today and I am amazed with your content! I couldn't believe you just hit 1000 subscribers if you keep it up like this you're going to have a few hundred thousand in no time at all keep up the content man and stay safe during this year's wheat harvest and I hope it is plentiful.
Love the 8.3 cummins! I see some 185 tractors for sale on tractorhouse holding their value real well!
Chis you sure do have a nice collection of MFWD Olivers!! The 1955 is one of my favorite tractors and a 4WD one is on my bucket list of ones to hopefully acquire someday. If you get a chance to put it in some videos please do. Thanks
Thanks! I typically don't use it too much this time of year, but it does pull my 30 foot grain drill planting wheat every fall. I'll try to get some video of it at work.
Awesome tractors..
Boy that cummins sure can crank the power! By far one of my favorite tractors is our white 100. Dads is the 1955 with a cummins install
This is so cool to me, watching old iron on a dyno it's something you don't see every day. I wish I had an opportunity to put my 64 jd 4010 gas on one, one day. I have the "big block" 6 cylinder and it definitely is the most powerful 4010/4020 that i have operated. Even compared to the diesel models the thing is powerful. My neighbors have a 4010 diesel and a 4020 diesel and while pulling a plow it blew them out of the water. In have read up quite a bit in it and some magazines/blogs claim it has 120hp and some say only 80-85 hp, personally I think it has atleast 115 since I got to plow with my neighbors 4020 with a turned up pump and some other things( he pulls with it in the county Fair) and it kept right up with it even was slightly faster. I couldn't believe it but ever since I picked it up it always impressed me I am going to rebuild the motor this fall and am going to check to see if it has any head work done to it, and if it doesn't I am going to port and polish the head.
Probably has propane pistons and maybe milled head, neighbor had la case set up that way and it would blow the porslin off the plugs when the governor opened
And id have been like great something else to fix. It’s a never ending list lol. That’s a pretty stout 185. Looks like he’s got some new rubber on it too. Good video chris
Never a dull moment! Who knows when I'll get to it, but it least it can wait until that point. Thanks!
Oliver 2255 MFWD: King of Tractors
Nice tractors
Nossa um dinamometro top de aí tem serteza da potência
That 185 looks mean with duels on all 4 220hp ain't to shabby either
Peckens still around Fowlerville area. Daughter has a channel of her own.
That’s some cool stuff man! Too bad about the 2255!
I think I got a decent reading before it started letting out the magic smoke. I'm going to call it 148 horsepower until I get get that rebuilt and test it again. Thanks for commenting.
Oliver got the right combo for the 2255 as one of the first tractor pulls l was at asa kid, they pulled into thesoft dirt and probably could have pulled out of the fairgrounds, the super 99 was way off
Nice my dad has 1968 Oliver 1850
They were one of Oliver's best tractors.
I think that kiddy needs some work shes blowen blue smoke out the stack.
Nice video my guess on the 1955 was of by 4hp my guess was 105hp. The rest i had no clue what they are surppose to put out.
White and Oliver were always under rated on hp by the factory which is not bad thing.
I have run a 1955, 2-85, 2-105 and a articulate White 4 wheel with a 3208 cat.
It used to burn cleaner on start up, but it has been sitting a lot the last few years. Once it warms up some, it clears up.
200 hp? Not bad!
I think I saw the 185 had 4 valves, we have a 185 with only 3 valves. How did you get the 4th one on there? Thanks.
The 4th one is actually a power beyond connection for a hydraulic motor.
After the 185 the dyno said im tired.lol
Well, that was bittersweet. It was AWESOME to see them on the dyno, but, too bad about the 2255 :( That's a real bummer. However, I thought 540 was only supposed to go to like 70-75HP or so and above that you should run 1000 RPM. I believe (and I think you could probably confirm) that 1000 would actually put less load on the clutches? The 1955 did good! And the 185 was great!
*AWESOME VIDEO* !!! Thanks for sharing! Those are some awesome tractors man! Looking forward to the PTO rebuild videos... kinda :(
This is the first "real" load I've put on the PTO of the 2255. It's just been fertilizer spreading all these years. I'm glad I found out this way, I had often thought about putting it on my generator during harvest to give it a workout. That could have been bad.
I thought about switching to 1000 rpm, but didn't want to mess with it. I'm pretty sure the horsepower recommendation for 540 is for the implements. The pto clutch is turning the same speed, no matter which output speed you choose. There's more gear reduction for 540, so if my logic is correct, there should be less of a strain for the clutch in that speed.
The 185 came from our dealership, and hasn't been more than a few miles away ever since. They also have a 160 FWA. If my memory serves, the 185 got transferred in from a dealer in Kentucky.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Yeah, I suppose technically, no matter how it's geared, 1 HP is 1 HP, whether it's 1ft/lb at 5252RPM or 5252ft/lbs at 1 rpm. Clutches being at engine speed either way, it wouldn't technically change the load on the clutches, only the torque on the shaft(s) would change. Well, yeah, good deal you found out on the dyno and not when you really need it! That's my whole reason for putting my 1855 on the dyno, not so much for finding out HP, but for finding any problems it might have.
That's pretty neat about the 185 and 160, you and your family have a real special place in the history of Oliver tractors and it's pretty cool to be able to talk with you and share videos and such. Thanks for posting! I know I really appreciate it!
Hi Chris, I am looking at buying a 1950 Oliver front wheel assist but it has no 3 point or PTO, there is also an Oliver 1800 gas tractor, could I use the parts off the 1800 to put a PTO and 3 point on the 1950? Thanks
Yes, both will bolt right up. One thing to watch out for is the gears that drive the hydraulic pump. They reversed the angle that they cut the gear teeth at for the 50 series, so you'll either need to swap the gear on the pump, or the gear that the PTO drive shaft goes through and the middle gear so the teeth will mesh properly.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Awesome, thanks again!
What motor does that 2255 have in it the ones they had on the farm were i work had a 3150 and a 3208
This one has the 3150
Did the 2255 come with a caterpillar engine from the factory? Very interesting if it did!
Yes it did. Early ones had the 3150 and late ones had the 3208.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris very cool! How much horsepower did she put out?
@@rudycarlson8245 Factory they are supposed to be 146 on the PTO. The PTO clutch in mine started slipping at about 140, so I know it has that much.
Can you possibly make a video on what you’re doing with the dyno? I mean other than reading the gauge, how do you determine HP? Can you call it down to stall out the tractor? Sorry for my ignorance, but I’ve always wondered how you get your hp number.
You can pull them down and stall them, but I don't like to do that. I've got to pull the dyno in the shop and see why the tachometer isn't reading sometimes. I can make a video and explain how it works. I do have another video that gives a quick explanation on how my dyno works. The PTO shaft is turning a brake drum inside the machine, and the brake pads are connected to the shaft that comes out the back. By turning a knob, I send more pressure to the brake pads, which makes them want to twist, that moves the bar on the back, pushing a hydraulic cylinder that is connected to the gauge, showing horsepower. czcams.com/video/m96FnjfNGH0/video.html
PTO power is not same as pulling power,on hitch or on link arms.
Correct
My mistake that was the 1955
is that a 3208 cat in the 2255?
It's a 3150 Cat.
After watching to the end I felt like an idiot for asking... I did see it on valve cover for a sec but forgot to take down the question. I drive dump trucks and a turbo 3208 wasn't "bad" for the time I drove it... Makes me wonder how the 3150 with turbo would fair in a highway application. Assuming they weren't turbo.. or optioned.
I've done the same thing. I've never heard of a 3150 with a factory turbo, but I'm not a Cat expert either. The 3208 replaced the 3150 midway through production of the 2255, so I'd lean towards no turbo for the 3150.
Was that a White American 80 in your barn
Yes it was. Good eye!
Chris Losey is it hard to find parts for that tractor
I haven't had to do much to mine, but I've heard some parts are hard to find. Between the Cummins engine and all the parts common to the 1655, it shouldn't be too hard to keep one running.