Mercedes, don't be mad. But... - Mercedes EQS 2022

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    Alex tried out the Mercedes EQS thinking that the ~123,000 USD car would be the electric car of choice for oligarchs and millionaires, but at this price and feature set, who is this actually for?
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    0:00 Premium tech tip
    0:15 Exterior impressions
    1:00 Breaking into the hood
    1:58 Mob boss tips
    2:52 First major flaw
    3:16 Interior impressions
    5:28 Dennis Massage Tips
    6:59 Facial recognition, LEDs, and other features
    7:50 Sponsor - iFixit
    8:23 Driving impressions
    11:13 Rear-wheel steering
    11:48 Hey Mercedes needs work...
    12:21 Sound system impressions ft. LTT Labs Analytics
    13:14 "Death by 1000 cuts"
    14:22 Outro
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  • @1FelixxileF1
    @1FelixxileF1 Před rokem +2553

    I have never seen a review that said: "I like the capacitive touch buttons over regular buttons" so at this point I don't know why manufacturers still think those are nice and a good idea.

    • @Tyradominus2000
      @Tyradominus2000 Před rokem +362

      CHEAP

    • @user-xz1ur8us5p
      @user-xz1ur8us5p Před rokem +266

      Its cheap and it looks cool in the advertisements

    • @Jezee213
      @Jezee213 Před rokem +107

      I know right!! it's the worst of both a button and touch screen, easy to accidentally touch and no physical feedback other than vibration maybe.

    • @sergiogsr
      @sergiogsr Před rokem +62

      Because its cheaper and easier you can define functions later by SW.
      That doesn't make it right BTW.

    • @DctrGizmo
      @DctrGizmo Před rokem +23

      They're always bad no matter what the price range is.

  • @LordWaldema
    @LordWaldema Před rokem +1928

    Man I love the split second that Alex could keep a straight face when Dennis said "I want to feel the balls"

    • @chrisogrady28
      @chrisogrady28 Před rokem +5

      Could?

    • @LordWaldema
      @LordWaldema Před rokem +34

      @@chrisogrady28 I mean probably until his brain processed what he just heard

    • @markusnl
      @markusnl Před rokem +61

      8/10 didn’t quite go deep enough

    • @gmourao
      @gmourao Před rokem +5

      Dude. Wtf. Dennis is hitting on him?

    • @tetra1974
      @tetra1974 Před rokem

      🤣 hahaha

  • @zollotech
    @zollotech Před rokem +409

    Yep…the capacitive buttons are ridiculous in a car at that price. The whole thing reminds me of a Blackberry Storm.

    • @misterdragzon
      @misterdragzon Před rokem +1

      I blame Audi/VW Group for pushing them for years

    • @Erevos85
      @Erevos85 Před rokem +2

      Capacitive buttons are ridiculous in any car.

  • @JohnIrwin
    @JohnIrwin Před rokem +1018

    Mercedes: we've spent millions developing a full screen gamer style virtual heads up display that actively overlays direction arrows over the road
    LTT: turn it off

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Před rokem +83

      nobody wants this bs, give us back phyisical buttons and dials

    • @piobu5357
      @piobu5357 Před rokem +83

      HUD is a useful thing, if done right. I get everything I need there in my Mazda, and since the infotainment screen is on the same level, and I can operate it with the physical rotary wheel without looking, I almost never need to look down, and take my eyes off the road. Easy to use and safe.

    • @Katojana
      @Katojana Před rokem +25

      @@marcogenovesi8570 I totally would love a HUD
      capacity touch tho? no thanks

    • @JohnIrwin
      @JohnIrwin Před rokem +9

      For reference, this is what the tech looks like. czcams.com/users/clipUgkxQK_wkJi7BbXB9135aFaquiehajBjSU0M
      I don't disagree that capacitive controls are an issue, but I'd still like to have seen this aspect of the vehicle being reviewed by this channel

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 Před rokem +6

      @@piobu5357 Yeah HUD is great especially when done right. I believe every car should have it really, even Tesla Model 3 where there is nothing on your peripheral vision when looking at the road. It will be far more futuristic that Tesla wants than just having single touchscreen on the middle.
      But still physical buttons and dials should be mandatory. I never thought capacitive touch is really for cars, we don't feel it. Unless they somehow developed really insane haptics that surpasses Apple. Just don't go capacitive, we have enough touchscreen already and even that I would have some physical navigation controls since it is not safe to use touchscreen that has the UI change every context or even every update.
      Touchscreen works great on phones and tablets because we directly look at it, not when driving.

  • @EdwinDPZ
    @EdwinDPZ Před rokem +376

    "Is that deep enough for you?"
    "I don't feel the balls"
    Oh lordy

  • @furykillerBZ
    @furykillerBZ Před rokem +1027

    The most important part of this video is Alex continuing to roast companies over the uselessness of touch controls in a car. The best part of this video is bringing Dennis in as the massage expert

    • @kornkernel2232
      @kornkernel2232 Před rokem +26

      We need Dennis for every car featuring massage feature, or even for comfort ones.

    • @andreastyrberg7556
      @andreastyrberg7556 Před rokem +7

      @@kornkernel2232 The wonders of Intel tech upgrade.
      Now LTT have a meme massage expert that hopefully will test every massage feature they meet.
      Love it

    • @avieshek
      @avieshek Před rokem +1

      @@andreastyrberg7556 A smart vibrator too, perhaps?

  • @michaelgiles9721
    @michaelgiles9721 Před rokem +113

    Fun fact: The rear cup holder being “jammed” is intentional. You press it in once for a pen holder, and a second time for the cup holders. Kinda strange but that’s what it is.

    • @Dubfiance
      @Dubfiance Před rokem +5

      why on earth would you need a pen holder?

    • @Naturalhighz
      @Naturalhighz Před rokem +25

      @@Dubfiance to hold your pens obviously

    • @njguy2
      @njguy2 Před rokem +2

      @@Dubfiance I think it is a phone holder, not a pen holder.

    • @rounakrai8187
      @rounakrai8187 Před 9 měsíci

      @@njguy2 use a pocket and put the cup holder in the inside, exposed, of the armrest like every other car and forget the stupidity of the mechanics and forget making it more expensive just for the car to "feel" more expensive.

  • @advitgarg399
    @advitgarg399 Před rokem +59

    Every time shortcircuit drops a video on an ev, i am reminded of 3 things
    1) Alex drives a golf GTX
    2) Alex is over 6 feet tall
    3) Car manufacturers are forgetting the very basics of making a car and butchering practicality for gimics

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 Před rokem +5

      If VW makes Golf RTX, Instant sold.

    • @kuebby
      @kuebby Před rokem

      The reason I'll be driving my 04 4Runner until it dies, probably in the 2030s.

  • @alexandervanslooten5016
    @alexandervanslooten5016 Před rokem +1750

    I think Alex' perspective is really refreshing compared to other automotive reviewers. However, I doubt the EQS' customer base shares/recognizes much of his criticism. Alex seems to really value the characteristics of a hot hatch / sportscar, whereas this car is everything but that.

    • @noobssindcool
      @noobssindcool Před rokem +116

      S-Class are really focused on a comfortable and luxurious driving experience and not for racing

    • @kinch_evl
      @kinch_evl Před rokem +24

      It looks like an overgrown Neon.

    • @dellonia
      @dellonia Před rokem +64

      Mercedes has never made sport cars by itself.
      Only AMG is transforming mercedes cars into sport alternatives. AMG was purchased by Mercedes, but remained independent, so they can modify as much as they want mercedes cars (in some cases they even redesigned entire engines).
      Hence, when mercedes designs a car, it is not to race, but for conform and safety.

    • @mattsnyder4754
      @mattsnyder4754 Před rokem +178

      I mean. 1, he does mention that MULTIPLE times during the video that sport driving isn’t the focus of the car.
      And 2, his biggest criticism, responsive and smooth braking, is - if anything - a more significant problem in a luxury car.

    • @eduardosanchez7827
      @eduardosanchez7827 Před rokem +96

      Brakes shouldn’t have a weird pedal feeling. This is something notices by almost every car reviewer out there. Also, using touch controls on the steering wheel is no luxury experience at all. It’s a lame attempt by MB to lower the price

  • @Fulvica133
    @Fulvica133 Před rokem +488

    Andy: "Hey Mercedes"
    Mercedes:"How can I help?"
    Andy:"I want to go home"
    Mercedes:"Oh, wry, Gods"
    Andy and Alex:"What was that"
    It was the funniest part of the video!!!

    • @noxious8
      @noxious8 Před rokem +8

      Maybe the car got it that they don't like to drive - because they want to 'go'?

    • @michaelthomas3646
      @michaelthomas3646 Před rokem +7

      maybe the car thought Andy meant China, and the car was thinking water and electronics don't mix!! either that or the number of charging ponts it would have to calculate it would need to find in a working condition, and the number of weeks it would take to charge to get to China!! haha

    • @abrahamolvera3491
      @abrahamolvera3491 Před rokem

      Its like we watched the same video or something

    • @Paveynator
      @Paveynator Před rokem +2

      Maybe a bit flip lol or it’s sentient?

    • @EnsignLovell
      @EnsignLovell Před rokem +8

      Was it just me or did it kinda sound like the car was mocking his heritage... Probably just me.

  • @labman472011
    @labman472011 Před rokem +84

    The LTT Lab notes were a nice touch! Really enjoyed the extra info!

  • @Neekzu
    @Neekzu Před rokem +19

    1:16 Expensive 2022 Mercedes still having lagging displays is truly unacceptable.

    • @LPRD
      @LPRD Před rokem

      It looks a lot better irl. Not that laggy

    • @serrael-182
      @serrael-182 Před rokem +3

      Im remember a vw tiguan like 14 years ago. I already asked myself back theb when theyll have a infotainment system that actually responds in realtime. :D

  • @TechboyUK
    @TechboyUK Před rokem +723

    I really like Alex's reviews. He talks about the things that matter when driving a car 👍

    • @devyncoyer1942
      @devyncoyer1942 Před rokem +10

      Haha yeah the real Short Circuit 🙄

    • @MetalLead
      @MetalLead Před rokem

      Imagine a world where the reviewer only tries to track this thing! 6k lbs lol

    • @BaskuraCorp
      @BaskuraCorp Před rokem +3

      Alex on cars is highly entertaining!

    • @snjert8406
      @snjert8406 Před rokem +1

      Heck yeah! Fully agree, also his videos when he builds something on the main LTT channel. Those are also super fun to watch

  • @jivewig
    @jivewig Před rokem +30

    2:38 for those confused, yeah it’s 107, not 170

    • @RealWorldReview
      @RealWorldReview Před rokem

      “So much capacity” really confused me because 80-100kw doesn’t sound like a lot, so 170 looked insane. I would say 107kw is like a 4800 mah battery. Pretty normal.

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus Před rokem

      Looks like they also got the Volvo and EQS lines switched at 12:55.

    • @AlexanderPavel
      @AlexanderPavel Před rokem

      @@RealWorldReview Yeah, 170kWh with only 350mi range would be terrible.

  • @rullerr
    @rullerr Před rokem +3

    Seeing the labs graphs come up for the audio was so great. Really looking forward to seeing this kind of detail and review data/normalization when discussing products.

  • @Kitteh.B
    @Kitteh.B Před rokem +4

    YES I LOVED THE LABS GRAPHS! That has me SO pumped for seeing results on audio equipment, it's my favorite part of looking up Rtings reviews!

  • @BadMax02_VR
    @BadMax02_VR Před rokem +263

    12:54 i think you guys colored either the graph or the legend of the EQS and S90 in the opposite colors, because it shows the EQS in purple having very good sub bass and the S90 with less bass below 40hz

    • @mycosys
      @mycosys Před rokem +15

      Yeah they got the graph or the conclusion backwards

    • @Nullpersona
      @Nullpersona Před rokem +4

      Some shots showing the car testing and readouts together might be interesting, or help ensure accuracy during continuity checks of the script and what's shown.

    • @dylanevans5644
      @dylanevans5644 Před rokem +9

      @@jinkim89 Yea agreed, I did pause but unless you are a real audio nerd it's all a little meaningless. Alex is talking about the audio in the background, which I missed as I was pausing and then playing and reading, so lost what he was saying. If his scipt was laid out to use the labs data as a reference it would be better - so "Overall I enjoyed the audio in the car, it feels like it lacks a little bass response in more bass heavy tracks and this is backed up by the data from LTT Labs you can see here *insert graph* - a more in depth explanation can be found at the LTT Labs link in the description"
      Just dumping these data sets in requiring a pause is complete changing how their viewers are having to interact with the video (IMO in a worse way) which I think they still need to work on. Even the editors notes in this video were so quick I had to skip back multiple times - they are funny and I like reading them (especially the bit about hitting a person on the road and being "dumb that you can't do it") but dang do they go quick.

    • @MichaelAW17
      @MichaelAW17 Před rokem

      @@dylanevans5644 This!

  • @Jur1_00
    @Jur1_00 Před rokem +365

    I started smiling when he talked about bringing a massage expert because I knew who it was 😂

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium Před rokem

      Who?

    • @simonezini5944
      @simonezini5944 Před rokem +6

      @@handlemonium Dennis. Watch his intel extreme tech upgrade

    • @Jur1_00
      @Jur1_00 Před rokem +8

      @@simonezini5944 there's also the massage gaming chair he unboxed on shortcircuit

    • @Mr3ppozz
      @Mr3ppozz Před rokem +4

      Same !
      Loved that he brought on Dennis because Dennis has a funny way of explaining things xD point in case; I wanna feel da balls ! XD

    • @handlemonium
      @handlemonium Před rokem +1

      @@Jur1_00 ah yes, Mr. need-my-back-feet-torso-massage-scarf-with-attached-armrests Dennis.

  • @Brandon-dj9cq
    @Brandon-dj9cq Před rokem +4

    8:29 forget the car, that's a cool soundtrack, what is it?
    (for anyone wondering, I think the remix song is from Maria Callas - Carmen (Habanera) (Chuy Ayala Remix)
    That's the closet remix I'm able to find, if someone can find the exact song, pls let me know

  • @konigderwelt2174
    @konigderwelt2174 Před rokem +6

    I had the chance to test the EQS. I agree with a lot of what you said. One thing I did like about the car is that with inteligent recuperation, I basically didn't need to brake. The driving assistance feels helpful more often than it feels annoying. Which was a first for me.

  • @HolybasilYT
    @HolybasilYT Před rokem +57

    The thing I really like about these car "reviews", ignoring Alex, because he is a delight every time we get to see him. Is that you bring on different, connoisseurs if you will to discuss certain features.
    Loved seeing Dennis in this one.

  • @axelsundelin4171
    @axelsundelin4171 Před rokem +408

    At 12:54 there seems do be an error. According to the context given by Alex and the previous graph I think the colors of the graphs for EQS and S90 were switched. Otherwise great information from ltt labs!

    • @Captain_Coleslaw
      @Captain_Coleslaw Před rokem +16

      Minus the audio dip. Thats fully intentional, when you pull up to a light, or come to a junction, or a car is in your blindspot. The car will lower the volue slightly so you automatically become more aware of your surroundings... And you can turn it off btw

    • @thecanmanification
      @thecanmanification Před rokem +30

      On the previous slide they said ESQ instead of EQS too. I don’t think they proof read the labs report lol

    • @__dm__
      @__dm__ Před rokem +5

      and they spelled frequency wrong

    • @MichaelAW17
      @MichaelAW17 Před rokem +27

      I think this was a pretty poor showing from LTT labs. Data was displayed too quickly and too much was given.

    • @michealpersicko9531
      @michealpersicko9531 Před rokem +35

      @@MichaelAW17 Ok and the 7 people this information pertains to can pause the video and read it there's no reason to make the part of the video containing useless information a good majority of the people watching don't give a shit about drag along just to give the handful of people that do car about that info a chance to read it

  • @Austin-ts4th
    @Austin-ts4th Před rokem +1

    The cup holder in the back wasn't jammed, it was designed that way. The first click is a pen holder then you give it a half click to get the cup holders. Not sure why its like that but it is what it is. Having the lumbar controls in the screen allows you to adjust the lumbar to a more specific spot to help pinpoint specific spots. The MBUX infotainment is very intuitive and easy to use. Yes there are a lot of sub menus but its easy to figure out.

  • @TheKing-fo4xo
    @TheKing-fo4xo Před rokem +1

    Love the ltt labs note. Cannot thank you guys enough. It is the greatest information addition about audio. Thank you very much.

  • @-Eduard-
    @-Eduard- Před rokem +11

    Oof ... the short flash of the BMW iX was like a jump scare with that grill xD

    • @catbertz
      @catbertz Před rokem

      Oh 100%! I literally groaned out loud. 🤣🤣

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 Před rokem +221

    The screen makes me wonder, how will the Apple CarPlay update work with this car? Also, I love how Dennis was the one to judge the message function given his Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade.

    • @_framedlife
      @_framedlife Před rokem +18

      New UI is reserved for new cars. It will continue to use a slightly facelifted version of current UI

    • @AshokkumarJakkula
      @AshokkumarJakkula Před rokem +9

      i dont think this car will get the update. the apple keynote said late 2023 cars, so.....

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv Před rokem +1

      @@AshokkumarJakkula i might actually get the update with need to plugin the iPhone, I think Mercedes’ uses nvidia chips for the infotainment or something like that.

    • @skirata3144
      @skirata3144 Před rokem +7

      @@carholic-sz3qv I’ve never seen a German car manufacturer updating software when they do major OS updates. And opening up an api to read safety critical information and allowing it to also overwrite your dashboard with their own design is quite the major change if we go by the standards of German manufacturers.

    • @Neoxon619
      @Neoxon619 Před rokem

      @@AshokkumarJakkula Are you sure they didn’t mean late 2013 or later?

  • @N0N0111
    @N0N0111 Před rokem +2

    5:31 OMG i almost died how perfect that was!

  • @Bumblerazz
    @Bumblerazz Před rokem +1

    Love the sound quality graphs, and using the volvo as a baseline / relative target helps. As a sound luddite, this kind of comparison tool helps immensely in determining 'better vs worse', at least for me. Keep on adding objective metrics like these to your vids please! :)

  • @therevanchist1123
    @therevanchist1123 Před rokem +178

    My first TownHouse was 119k… that about sums up my thoughts on this.
    Also I imagine this in a commercial with Shaq saying it’s got plenty of room with him getting inside and his head sticking out of the sunroof 😅

    • @spiderjerusalem6887
      @spiderjerusalem6887 Před rokem +11

      119k? Ah yes, the Before-Trudeau times.

    • @springrollpapi
      @springrollpapi Před rokem +2

      that same townhouse probably goes on the market now for about a million

    • @emiledhaene1297
      @emiledhaene1297 Před rokem

      @@spiderjerusalem6887 ah yes, trudeau, the sole reason housing is up across the whole world

    • @davisbradford7438
      @davisbradford7438 Před rokem +9

      @@spiderjerusalem6887 It's not just a Canadian problem. We are now ahead of the 2007 housing crisis in terms of housing cost compared to median income in the USA as well.

    • @korndud
      @korndud Před rokem

      @@spiderjerusalem6887 how dumb do you have to be to think it's trudeau's fault. you think house prices are going to dramatically decrease if there was a conservative in power? lmao

  • @malteroeper3723
    @malteroeper3723 Před rokem +39

    The 170KWh showed would really be absolutely crazy capacity ^^

  • @DerpySwag
    @DerpySwag Před rokem

    Great video! I loved the shots of the car, the angle when Denis got into the car, and I am so excited to see more audio testing from LABS hell yeah. I think the editors should add little coloured bars to indicate when the next "slide" of the labs results are going to appear next.

  • @JeremieBPCreation
    @JeremieBPCreation Před rokem +7

    8:23 Is this yours? Whose remix is that? I love it!

    • @BrianLewis515
      @BrianLewis515 Před rokem +2

      I want to know too

    • @tagg8233
      @tagg8233 Před rokem

      I think it must be, Shazam doesn’t know it. But it is a pretty simple mashup of Bizet’s Habanera with Something Called Karma. Pretty cool tho

    • @cabrge
      @cabrge Před rokem +1

      Took me some digging but I'm pretty sure it's Something Called Karma (c) on apmmusic

    • @JeremieBPCreation
      @JeremieBPCreation Před rokem

      @@cabrge Thanks!

  • @BabyShotgun
    @BabyShotgun Před rokem +19

    That Dennis massage tips part was ripe for some low hanging innuendos.

    • @jstan5802
      @jstan5802 Před rokem

      At that point it's no longer even innuendos lol

  • @flapjack30000
    @flapjack30000 Před rokem +9

    Great review and amazing editing! You guys have come a long way since the first car reviews and its really showing, can't wait to see where you'll be in the next few months!

  • @frollard
    @frollard Před rokem +1

    So much traditional automaker feel crammed into a futurecar that as you say it just seems to break stuff.
    Editors: Awesome topgear/grandtour vibes on the glamour b-roll delivering the feel of driving while also being interesting. Awesome work.

  • @BillyBraga
    @BillyBraga Před rokem

    Nice to see the lab already bearing fruits with this frequency response graph and all the description with it! Good job!

  • @eamonjun
    @eamonjun Před rokem +59

    god damn we need more of dennis

    • @jstan5802
      @jstan5802 Před rokem +1

      He likes it so deep that he can feel a bit pain

  • @greyant7069
    @greyant7069 Před rokem +92

    Love alex's review and the lab notes ! Really great review !

  • @theHedgehogPro
    @theHedgehogPro Před rokem

    LOVED the LTT Labs Notes.... I can't wait to see more of this!

  • @Gellis12
    @Gellis12 Před rokem +27

    Hey, I met Andy at a quick charger after they shot this video!
    To be honest, I never would have guessed that the car cost that much from when I saw it; even on the outside, it just seems kinda like a cheap VW with a bit of a facelift. Though to its credit, the underglow and ground-projected logo that appears when you open the doors was actually kinda cool and managed to not look tacky
    the fact that they block you from getting under the hood is ridiculous though, stuff like this is exactly why we need tougher right to repair legislation.

    • @user-ce5oh4bp4l
      @user-ce5oh4bp4l Před rokem

      The question is: What do you want to repair yourself on a EV like this with a lot of high voltage systems and parts that were designed to the extreme to match the high airflow design (and compact design under the hood)?

    • @Gellis12
      @Gellis12 Před rokem +3

      @@user-ce5oh4bp4l the cabin air filter, for one. There's also the brake fluid reservoir hidden under the plastic panel, and a bunch of other basic maintenance stuff.

    • @levygaming3133
      @levygaming3133 Před rokem +1

      @@Gellis12 50:50 that’s where the 12v battery is, that or the trunk. Also probably have to pop the hood to make brake work easier.

  • @PolarPenguin
    @PolarPenguin Před rokem +20

    Loved the labs stuff but can be kinda annoying to keep pausing the video to read.
    I am not saying you should remove it from the video all together, but maybe provide a transcript of the notes somewhere where it is easily readable, like a complementary blog or something.

  • @MitsumaYT
    @MitsumaYT Před rokem +44

    I think I know why the capacitive touchbuttons move. Feels like they tried to struck a middle ground between buttons and touch. So you know when you pressed it.
    Of course it seems to fall flat by the point that you still have to actually look where you press...

    • @David-jl7cz
      @David-jl7cz Před rokem +2

      we knew this was a bad idea when blackberry released the storm.

    • @concinnus
      @concinnus Před rokem

      Since you have to look, you can tell when you've pressed it. But if it has to move to register, it protects against (some) accidental touch.

  • @TheDenno91
    @TheDenno91 Před rokem

    Love the car reviews with Alex,
    Great video, tanks a lot 👌

  • @mrfourtwenty6082
    @mrfourtwenty6082 Před rokem +4

    Well I drove the eqs aswell and also found the brake feel a little weird. But you can actually change the regenerative braking with the "shift pedals" so just using one pedal driving is very usable. Also I missed the sub base but maybe because I am just a 19 year old bass lover. Overall this is a very nice car for S class customers that drive for themself and maybe have a assistant always next to them. Kinda like a youtuber that travels a lot with their cutter/cameraman. It feels like its very well tuned for german roads and autobahn where you can use the great fast charging network of europe. In the US and Canada it's probably pretty lost for this, with a lack of really fast chargers. It's not a car to daily to work rather to travel from city to city

  • @Punz18
    @Punz18 Před rokem +264

    Fun fact: Mercedes has a patent on the sound it's car doors make when you close them

    • @MtnCactus
      @MtnCactus Před rokem +40

      Its probably a trademark! Patents are usually technological ideas

    • @Gruntled2001
      @Gruntled2001 Před rokem +11

      🤮
      I hope they trademarked the 4-5 digit numbers that their average repairs usually run. There is a sucker born every day, and Mercedes is happy to cater to that market.

    • @FaZekiller-qe3uf
      @FaZekiller-qe3uf Před rokem +7

      The possessive form of "it" is “its”, not the contraction “it’s”. The latter means “it is”.

    • @mydimeisup5103
      @mydimeisup5103 Před rokem +5

      @@Gruntled2001 My opinon: I don't think German cars are half bad if you can repair them yourselves. I have a 2013 Audi allroad with 152k miles and in the 2 years I've owned it I've only spent about 2k on it. I did timing chains since they're known to stretch and grenade the engine (this is a maintenance item), brake pads, suspension control arms, motor mounts, etc. all the normal stuff for every other car except timing chains. Timing chains were 2k job at local mechanic, 3.5K at dealer. I did it for $490. If you're getting an E46 with the v8 with rod bearings that wear every 100k miles then yeah you're a sucker for a cool car, but most of them aren't that bad.

    • @robertp457
      @robertp457 Před rokem +5

      @@mydimeisup5103 No one buys a luxury brand to save money.

  • @marv7907
    @marv7907 Před rokem +53

    Love this test! And I love to see that you show the frequency graphs for the audio systems. This was the first time I saw this.
    Here in Germany the EQS is at the moment the best of all according to some car journalists. But they didn’t show the touch capacitive steering buttons or the cheaped out buttons or talk about the difference between base model and equipt model. And sometimes thy praise the software. But what you showed doesn’t look like even close to be the best.
    In my opinion this is overall a great car. But in certain spots it doesn’t live to it price batch.

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 Před rokem +3

      I believe it's the debut of featuring Labs content.

    • @reyods
      @reyods Před rokem +7

      It's actually quite funny how German car reviewers bash on cars from the US like the Mach E, and American channels complain about cars like the iX.
      But I totally agree with you. Magazines like "Auto Motor Sport" have always been quite biased, especially towards Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, Merc has made a really interesting car, but things like the buttons were not discussed (or only briefly), so it's kinda nice to see someone mention them. Especially the steering wheel buttons. Whos idea was that, that's so stupid.

    • @Mr.Morden
      @Mr.Morden Před rokem

      "Journalists" don't exist anymore, these days it's just people on the payroll writing "reviews" padded with talking points and sales pitches. It's the same thing as fake Amazon reviews.

    • @FlorinArjocu
      @FlorinArjocu Před rokem

      I think he messed those graphs, they are reversed. There is a comment about that.

    • @djhokage1
      @djhokage1 Před rokem

      120k for a car in Germany. "best of all" lol.

  • @georgelopez9411
    @georgelopez9411 Před rokem +1

    12:54 The S90 and EQS colors are inverted.
    Love the Lab notes integration

  • @radicalrick9587
    @radicalrick9587 Před rokem +1

    *I half expected a big BOOM! when he started to open that hood.*

  • @alhollywood6486
    @alhollywood6486 Před rokem +7

    Unless you're Linus....😂😂

  • @simonrothmann
    @simonrothmann Před rokem +72

    In Germany they were the first to implement level 3 automated driving with this one and the s class. You definitely should take a trip down here and try it. It’s freaking amazing.

    • @s.i.m.c.a
      @s.i.m.c.a Před rokem +7

      eeh...sorry, but i still like to be in control and not being hacked, while in automated mode, in a poorly secured Mercedes

    • @jambio3162
      @jambio3162 Před rokem +22

      @@s.i.m.c.a lol

    • @Captain_Coleslaw
      @Captain_Coleslaw Před rokem +13

      @@s.i.m.c.a Mercedes are the ONLY manufacturer to develop thier security FULLY in house... And thier operating system is also made fully by themselves, with the hardware being made by Nvidea.... They are just about the safest when it comes to hacking

    • @BritishTeaLover
      @BritishTeaLover Před rokem +34

      @@Captain_Coleslaw Just a point, but proprietary does not mean secure. It means that it hasn't been tested by too many other groups, and very few will have validated it. Doesn't mean it's insecure either, but it's not a plus. Security through obscurity won't work for very long once the system becomes more common.
      There's a reason why open-source stuff is considered to be more secure for most use cases, since it gives so many people a chance to break it that you either find the flaws, or have it proven how secure it is. Hence why most encryption standards are open-source.

    • @B_R_E_I_Z_H
      @B_R_E_I_Z_H Před rokem +18

      @@Captain_Coleslaw my rule of thumb is generally : if it ain't open source and it hasn't yet been stress tested by actual hackers, then you have no reason to trust it

  • @robots-uu8fc
    @robots-uu8fc Před rokem

    A surprisingly comprehensive review. Thank you for the amazing video 👍😊

  • @EliteNK
    @EliteNK Před rokem

    Love these tech/auto videos! Keep em comin!

  • @tavajava
    @tavajava Před rokem +8

    would love to start seeing write ups of the LTT labs data with the accompanying video as it can be hard to appreciate the data in a video format

  • @setayo7639
    @setayo7639 Před rokem +72

    Here's one thing I'm not entirely clued up about that bugs me.... They claim that EV cars look slightly weird because they need to have less drag coefficient and aerodynamics... But why aren't they making ICE cars as aero efficient as possible? We could of been having ICE cars that looked like these that would be getting better mileage for years now right?

    • @theproffessional9
      @theproffessional9 Před rokem +26

      Because gas car drivers don't care about efficiency. *Ahem* 20% efficiency *Ahem*

    • @setayo7639
      @setayo7639 Před rokem +4

      @@theproffessional9 I would expect it to be a whole money scheme where many suited individuals hold many flavoured pies, but there are some cars like the honda insight? I think it's that one with some modification people claim to be getting 90+mpg

    • @cagatayy1182
      @cagatayy1182 Před rokem +39

      Most ICE cars have a grill at the front for engine cooling. That should be changing the air flow a lot

    • @setayo7639
      @setayo7639 Před rokem +3

      @@cagatayy1182 oh yeah that would affect it quite a bit, but there is definitely some clever ways to cool such as BMWs active grilles that open and close as required for a workaround

    • @hullabaloo9072
      @hullabaloo9072 Před rokem +6

      Most high mileage sedans look kind of like this already. For ice engines luxury cars could be hideously inefficient because Rick people didn’t care about mileage, but Rick people do care about range on EVs

  • @nalandial
    @nalandial Před rokem

    Love the new LTT labs content! Very excited for the future of it.

  • @tramcrazy
    @tramcrazy Před rokem

    Uses for the Lab:
    1) Driving cars into the warehouse for an indoor car filming space
    2) Running a LAN party and pop-up screwdriver store

  • @PatiShorti
    @PatiShorti Před rokem +15

    The LTT Labs measurements and comments are great! Love it!

  • @shinokami0076
    @shinokami0076 Před rokem +8

    "hey mercedes" moment are priceless, love you guys :3
    Thanks for the content, as always ;)

  • @mikegoggin570
    @mikegoggin570 Před rokem +16

    I've watched all of these electric car reviews and just wanted to say that I love seeing Alex review these cars. I had no idea there were so many electric cars on the market and I'm glad someone is taking the time to find out how good or bad they are so I don't have to.

  • @mr.waffles8739
    @mr.waffles8739 Před rokem +2

    I love Alex's car review videos!

  • @PaladinofRealm
    @PaladinofRealm Před rokem +10

    Love the LABS stuff really great for audio folks like me. Quick side note at 12:50 there's a spelling error in the top right corner.

  • @benjaminsmith3625
    @benjaminsmith3625 Před rokem +25

    Love the audio graphs! Having a labs website for the audio and colour data you collect will be great!

  • @getbentgoogle6967
    @getbentgoogle6967 Před rokem

    Alex is a brilliant host as always, the LTT Lab notes were sick as well. Great video

  • @jessebrook1688
    @jessebrook1688 Před rokem

    Having lived in Surrey and Langley for a while. It's so much fun to see bits of it in this video.

  • @CH-bn7qb
    @CH-bn7qb Před rokem +24

    The reason they don’t want you to open the hood is because they scrimped on the paint job 🤣

  • @theproffessional9
    @theproffessional9 Před rokem +13

    I hate that there is no going under the hood, they're trying to iPhoneafiy cars "Fixing doesn't happen often, so fuck it let's make it hard and expensive as hell to fix the tiniest things and make excuse about how you might get hurt or damage something"

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv Před rokem

      I get that but seriously what are you going to to under the hood!? Apart from putting the windshield liquid what else would you do!? Nothing!!

    • @skirata3144
      @skirata3144 Před rokem +1

      EVs just are inherently dangerous to fix by the owners themselves unless they belong to the relatively small group of people that can be trusted around high voltage electronics.

    • @carholic-sz3qv
      @carholic-sz3qv Před rokem

      @@skirata3144 exactly!! From the high voltage battery to the cables to the power electronics a non qualified person has litteraly nothing to do on EVs, you can watch Chris fix on CZcams on how to change the oils on your ICE vehicle and all the service at home but it’s a totally different case with EVs

  • @LucianoCorzo
    @LucianoCorzo Před rokem

    Love the car videos! Keep them coming!

  • @stanstatic
    @stanstatic Před rokem

    I love that your test drive took you through the posh neighborhood where people are riding horses along a trail next to the road.

  • @jonasboekema8619
    @jonasboekema8619 Před rokem +52

    My dad is in his fifties and recently bought an EQS. I think he's the perfect audience for this car, he's had his sports cars but now he just wants to drive around in luxury in an electric car. And it really is pure luxury, sitting in this car feels like you're floating on the road in absolute silence.

    • @Raaaphael
      @Raaaphael Před rokem +7

      We have an S- class. The driving experience in those cars is just amazing!

    • @TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore
      @TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore Před rokem +15

      How nice is it being rich?

    • @Wybrem
      @Wybrem Před rokem +20

      Plastic crappy buttons, shit tier Android system that doesn’t work, ugly cheap design. I’m sorry but this isn’t luxury.

    • @marcogenovesi8570
      @marcogenovesi8570 Před rokem +4

      paid comment brought to you by Mercedes

    • @jonasboekema8619
      @jonasboekema8619 Před rokem +10

      @@TomF1F1Gameplaysandmore not bad

  • @wildwilie
    @wildwilie Před rokem +4

    As soon as he talked about the adaptive breaking, I knew this isnt it. One thing almost everyone will hate is if your brake pedals isnt consistently smooth. Makes you feel so much less in control of the vehicle and much less safe.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g Před rokem

      👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you🎊🎉

    • @Koda14
      @Koda14 Před rokem +4

      I Have the adaptive regen braking enabled on my Hyundai EV and honestly once you're used to it it's fine. You learn to predict how it is going to respond depending upon what's in front of you and can respond appropriately. If the Mercedes version is anything like this, I would be more than happy to live with it.

    • @wildwilie
      @wildwilie Před rokem +2

      ​@@Koda14 I'm not just trashing adaptive braking all together, I'm mostly talking about how alex is saying how he feels about it. I've test driven the Hyundai's with adaptive breaking and its feels a little odd at first but nothing alarming.

  • @chancek2792
    @chancek2792 Před rokem

    THANK YOU for the very honest reviews!!

  • @kadenk.3760
    @kadenk.3760 Před rokem +1

    10:20 That's the most body roll I've ever seen aside from the Suzuki Samurai (which is known for rolling over)

  • @jerrycaidic08
    @jerrycaidic08 Před rokem +10

    At least it doesn't suffer from porpoising.😏
    Also, the "can you fit a body on inside the trunk" part. Very Top Gear-ish (the Clarkson, May, and Hammond version), very nice.

  • @mustapha154
    @mustapha154 Před rokem +5

    I love your energy

  • @MrTheTrafalgar
    @MrTheTrafalgar Před rokem

    That musical montage was amazing. More car reviews!

  • @westonjones6670
    @westonjones6670 Před rokem

    The editing starting at 8:23 is 🔥... Props to the editor

  • @NealChauhan
    @NealChauhan Před rokem +24

    Alex is such a good host. I love this series

  • @moonlightfilms5279
    @moonlightfilms5279 Před rokem +3

    Seriously have these car reviews nailed, whole thing was entertaining! Props to Alex!

  • @user-pv6qk6rm2u
    @user-pv6qk6rm2u Před rokem +1

    The EQS is with the new S-Class one of the worlds first cars with a real autopilot. In Germany you can already try it out.

  • @jessery475
    @jessery475 Před rokem

    Love the labs notes on the frequency curves etc.

  • @mydimeisup5103
    @mydimeisup5103 Před rokem +16

    As a car guy I love this review. I love my ICE engines. I love my V8s and Audi supercharged 3.0T v6 however I'm excited to see what electric counterparts we can have along side ICE for the average non-car guy/gal. I was expecting this to be like every other tech channel's review of electric cars "Ohh big screen. Ohh technology. Ohh this!" but you very critical of options being hidden in infotainment, Mercedes' effort to stop customers working on their own car, and the capacitive buttons and lack of physical controls, especially climate controls. I've tried cars with climate controls in a screen and it doesn't work. Physical controls are just miles better (pun intended). Thank you for a real review of the car as a whole and not just looking at the shiny screens and technology.

  • @friddevonfrankenstein
    @friddevonfrankenstein Před rokem +3

    "Is this deep enough for you?"
    "I can't feel the balls, I want to feel the balls. I want to feel a little pain"
    That was EPIC! I can't stop laughing xD

  • @TheSlasha09
    @TheSlasha09 Před rokem

    alex and the editors really channeling theyre inner jeremy clarkeson this video, with that boot review referencing a mob boss hiding bodies and the driving montage. getting real top gear vibes

  • @supremegaming9134
    @supremegaming9134 Před rokem

    YAYYYYY!!! I was just missing seeing Dennis on the LTT channel!!

  • @TempRawr
    @TempRawr Před rokem +3

    Seeing ltt labs data make me so excited for future.
    Also dear God so many ev coming out with so many problems. So glad for these videos to criticize all of them and hopefully get these companies listening

  • @joosteillebrecht1823
    @joosteillebrecht1823 Před rokem +6

    Yes another great Alex car video :DDD

  • @alistairblaire6001
    @alistairblaire6001 Před rokem

    Glad to see you're constantly tweaking your target curves for car audio.

  • @conornolan814
    @conornolan814 Před rokem

    Labs data

  • @maxzett
    @maxzett Před rokem +3

    I actually don't own a car.
    However I really really like your car reviews.
    I also don't even want to own a car, BUT for some reason I really enjoy watching the reviews.
    It's a bit refreshing from all the usual hardware, and it's actually interesting what cars are capable of these days in terms of tech.
    I honestly am more interested in the cars interior than exterior or performance metrics.

  • @MVRTYY
    @MVRTYY Před rokem +6

    Just some tips & heads-up 👍🏼
    1. The interior and the trunk is obviously not white as standard.
    2. It is possible to adjust the ambient lightning to be a seperate colour than the digital cockpit - just not in the “discrete” theme that you were showcasing.
    Go to Comfort - Then Ambient Lightning
    3. This is the EQS 580 4MATIC. The EQS 450+ has a range of more than 740 km (WLTP) (107,8 kWh)
    4. Rear wheel steering is 4.5 degrees as standard (atleast in Denmark) in both the 450+ and the 580
    5. The “Hey Mercedes” assistent has a lot of commands predefined, that do not require you to activate it by saying “Hey Mercedes” beforehand - like “Go home” “Volume up” etc
    6. Correct, the automatic lowering of volume when slowing down is based on a gasoline/diesel engine. I always recommend customers disabling this in a Mercedes-EQ.
    Regards,
    Mercedes-Benz productexpert in Denmark

  • @derekg2132
    @derekg2132 Před rokem

    I've always like Mercedes dash boards with the blue lights around it screens its nice

  • @cybercloud8021
    @cybercloud8021 Před rokem

    Alex just know that I love your episodes the most

  • @RandarTheBarbarian
    @RandarTheBarbarian Před rokem +3

    Me in my 1997 sub compact hatchback, that cost me $1000, regardless of seating position: ah yes there is room for my head in here
    Alex in a brand new electric Mercedes that costs $123,000 USD sitting in the back: ah yes my head is against the roof and will slam into it if we hit a bump.
    I want electric vehicles to be available, especially in countries like this one where not owning a car puts you at a severe disadvantage due to lack of public transit, lack of bike paths, frequently long distances between residential and commercial zoning, and lack of sidewalks in high traffic areas. Well ideally I'd like all of those things to be fixed but since that's not gonna happen electric vehicle proliferation becomes important. Before someone like me would ever make that jump though they have to be 1)significantly less expensive 2)run as few things through a computer as humanly possible. I don't need heated seats, massage seats, a giant screen for satnav and stereo, a screen for a gauge cluster, or basically anything else that would reduce failure by not being so "futuristic". Not to be an old man here, but I've got no power steering, a manual transmission, crank windows, fully mechanical door locks, a key that doesn't require a chip to start the car, lights that have to be manually activated, a passable sound system, no ABS brakes, rotor ignition, and good fuel economy (34 city, 42 highway) and I like it.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g Před rokem

      👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you📦

  • @pumpuppthevolume
    @pumpuppthevolume Před rokem +9

    I want to see Linus review it ...it will be interesting if he has gotten already the tycan wagon as a daily

    • @ggandalff
      @ggandalff Před rokem +2

      He hasn't

    • @pumpuppthevolume
      @pumpuppthevolume Před rokem

      @@ggandalff yeah we would have heard about it if he had it

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 Před rokem

      @@pumpuppthevolume Still with the Volt.

    • @pumpuppthevolume
      @pumpuppthevolume Před rokem

      @@benwu7980 yeah that's the latest they showed about his car .....but he did say he bought the tycan wagon ....it's just not clear when he'll get it

    • @benwu7980
      @benwu7980 Před rokem

      @@pumpuppthevolume He said yesterday hie's still driving the Volt, so not sure what up with the Taycan.

  • @alecfortin6958
    @alecfortin6958 Před rokem +1

    Alex is genuinely really good at these reviews. I’m an avid car guy and tech guy and I really like how he blends both coming from LTT.

    • @user-ky1sv6ee7g
      @user-ky1sv6ee7g Před rokem

      👆👆Congratulations I got a surprise for you🎊

  • @NocturnalMarshmallowOrder

    North up navigation. I agree. Thank you Alex.

  • @Killerpixel11
    @Killerpixel11 Před rokem +18

    The current S class will absolutely be better. But it depends on what you're reviewing, because that one is absolutely an executive's car. It won't corner. It won't go as the EQS does.
    If possible, I would like a little more time devoted to "EV stuff". How does it handle charging? Does it do the advertised power? Does it handle preconditioning? How is the route/charge planning (it's supposed to be really good in the EQ series) stuff like that.
    As a whole, having seen a number of reviews, I think the EQS should've been the EQE...and the current EQE should just not exist. Because this most definitely is NOT an S class, in no way.
    It's also worth a mention, that pretty soon the EQS (and the S class) will be the first production cars you can order with actual, certified Level 3 autonomy capability according to EU regs. At least here in Germany , not sure about other markets. It'll be very limited (almost uselessly so) but it will be there.

  • @IrocZIV
    @IrocZIV Před rokem +9

    I wonder how much those front license plates you guys have to use hurt the drag coefficient.

  • @Aeturnalis
    @Aeturnalis Před rokem +1

    My E-Class has the hood latch hidden too, I always just thought it was for aesthetics. By the way, It says EQS-580 on the back, and if that car is similar in spec to their 50+ deciliter displacement AMG E-Class sedans, that price is less extreme than it seems. An E63 AMG is over $100,000, but the EQS-580 probably has a little less horsepower.

  • @yasuda9420
    @yasuda9420 Před rokem

    YESSSS!! MORE TOP GEAR/GRAND TOUR STYLE EDITING!!!