A Tank Enthusiast Reacts: The Rhino from GTA V
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2022
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im not sure if you react to movie/series tanks but if you do i recommend you react to girls und panzer, since its "very" realistic.
Something you didn't mention/ might have missed: the wheels seem to be free-floating supporting the tank with non-existent external wheel axels. Though that's less a problem of tank design and more a general modeling problem.
@@bloxyrob.9553 im pretty sure he already knows everything about girls und panzer looking At the Wall behind him
Tbh, I'm leaning more towards this being a further development of south african TTD and some other designed intended for "no strings attached" export. Reason? Player character can freely buy it. So I'm leaning into it being some joint venture that came after the failure of south african TTD(uses variation of Leo2 hull and some british and french components), british Vickers MBT Mk.10(also uses Leo2 based hull, but with british 120mm gun), brazilian Osorio(once again a mix of british and french components) and french AMX-40(as you've mentioned, french use this style of hatch. And they were fans of coaxial 20mm). A last ditch attempt to salvage all the aforementioned projects that in GTA universe finally bore some result. Even if 1,5 million feels like a laughably low price even for a used tank on a black market.
The riveted armor feels like bolt on applique composite, possibly MEXAS as you can see it used for side skirts too. So the "vision ports" may actually be small maintenance hatches to allow limited access to space between original armor and applique one for electrical wiring(for example frontal one seems like ideal place for searchlight while side one is suspiciously close to smoke mortars). Or to clean it/fill it with something.
Having MG armor on the side is okay as it looks like ammo for .50 HMG and it would be faster and easier to reach for this one... if only it was on the same side of the turret as commander's hatch. Reaching for those boxes would expose commander, but it is easier to get them from outside.
If it's export intended design then having both turbine and diesel engine as options is quite a logical way to inflate the market viability. Seems like you got the wrong model delivered to you though. Which means that some dictator had also gotten a turbine one by accident in his batch of diesel ones:D
We see blow out panels, but it also probably has autoloader since one man(with the help of hidden loyal henchman always hiding in the tank and playing with main gun) can use it to limited capacity. So bustle autoloader. A very FRENCH thing to have too.
Also if it were to be using british 120mm, it would mean that the ammo it could be using could be HESH. Dual purpose, provides big explosion, but with comparably little amount of shrapnel since the shell has thin casing.
So I believe that in GTA universe there is a joint international arms conglomerate working in South Africa, Brazil, UK and France among other places. Might also be used as a way to explain why names and looks of most guns are so different. They're either licensed variations of existing designs or straight up copies.
4:45 they are not spare tracks. I dont remember the name but i think its added to the tracks if you ride in a winter so it doesnt drift so much. Kinda like winter tires for a car.
Just cause 3 has the same tank barrel physics. I'd love to see you do a speed round of Just Cause 4's menagerie of tanks actually, especially because it has such good tread physics
I have an idea for a reaction on Just Cause 3's tanks, as they are pretty unique overall as far as video game tanks go. I haven't seen anything about Just Cause 4 but I will certainly look into it!
@@eta320 17:28 what’s the top speed? Sounds like it can haul! Also check out the khanjali. Looks super futuristic!
The jc3 tanks are really cool as one of the few wheeled tanks in "mainstream" games,even if it's probably for technical reasons
Reload speed on the other hand...... AHEM! Yeah....
@@brianrigsby7900the kunjali looks like it's based on the pl-o1 polish tank is a 1/1 replica
Fun Fact the ammo that the rhino tank uses is RPG-7 rounds thats the bullet model for the rhino rank
In essence, the Rhino falls foul of my personal pet peeve with films and video games - attempting to be realistic and yet failing due to only half-hearted research. It’s actually more frustrating when something is almost right, but still rendered unbelievable by avoidable errors that could have been fixed by simply showing the design to an expert for 2 minutes, than one which runs entirely on rule-of-cool.
Your video, however, was top notch, my friend. I loved every minute of it, especially the ultra classy intro 👍
this literally applies to most of gtav's vehicles and all guns from the game, especially the A-10 evokes that "almost right" feeling you mention that absolutely ruins the feel of it
No,no no no , you got it wrong. The tank's crew are all inside and ready to go. But the tank is missing a return roller. You become the roller.
As a Leopard 2 tank crewman myself, i have to say your knowledge is on point!
Concerning your point at 14:45 about which side the drive should be, the driver was basically set on the right side so that the loader (inside the left part of the turret) would have access to extra ammunition that would be stored next to the driver inside the chassis. this, so that when the main gun aims at 11 o clock, the gunner could easily completely refill the turrets stored ammunition.
The tank HAS to be an South African TTD tank. Even the name makes sense. Rhinos are from Africa. TTD is from Africa. The person that designet the Rhino is an absolute genius and has huge knowledge on tanks.
i thought the exact same thing, though isn't the ttd just a stranger looking early leopard 2?
@@imlivinginyourceiling yea something like that, but the website does say the TDD got its design from the early centurion tanks
I looked it up. It's a little unnerving seeing a Rhino tank IRL.
@@mattevans4377 Ik
@@imlivinginyourceiling No, the TTD has a 105mm compared to the Leopards 120mm, TTD was also a prototype for a replacement for the Olifant Mk.2, the leopard is under review for replacement for the Olifant
The tank actually fires an rpg round
The rear of the hull a little bit reminds me of the raised version of the italian OF-40 used for the Palmaria SPG and the OTOMATIC SPAA
Isn’t the of40 a copy of the leopard, I could be wrong
This tank appears to be based more of the South African TTD just instead of a 105mm they added a 120mm and a 50 cal on the top
I did mention the TTD in the video but to me, the headlights, the spare rubber feet on the front, the shape of the front hull, the angle of the cheeks, and the gunners sight remind me all of the leopard 2a4. I know people like to think it’s based of some kind of wacky South African prototype tank.
But I personally see almost no major resemblance.
@@eta320 it's a monster of a tank in the end
The rhino being based of the TDD is highly unlikely just because not alot of people know about the TTD
And no way in hell rockstar would put in the effort to research into tanks, I believe it's based on thr leopard 2a4 and Abrams just because it's a pretty well know tankz and they thought it looked kinda like a Abrams with the flat front turret cheeks
@@liamkurtyhnigov4064 he got that idea from PhlyDaily a WT CZcamsr who said the same thing. A simple google search will show you that rockstar themselves said it was based off of the Leopard 2A4
@@F-18Super uh no I didn't get it from phlee. It's design just looked more like the TDD
At 5:45, I don't think those are entire spare track links. They look more like the metal blocks that can replace the rubber pads on the tracks, for better off road ability. They can be found at the exact same spot on many Leopard 2s, and serve the same purpose as the spare tracks you mentioned.
God I wonder if he will cover some wacky tanks from C&C and no I'm not talking about everyone's favourite mammoth tank but things like the tick tank.... Or maybe the Russian heavy tank from red alert...
Do you mean Apocalypse?
@@overcookedcorn1992 depends on which game were talking about as in the first red alert the Russians use as there main battle tank the heavy tank as it's called.
@@EmisariuszKukielka203 The Heavy Tank in RA1 is only identified as the Heavy Tank, but the Soviets DO get access to the Mammoth Tank though (And yes, it IS the called the Mammoth Tank in RA1). Meanwhile the Soviet tanks in RA2 are the Rhino and the Apocalypse.
I hope that he made videos about the abandoned T-34-85 and Pz III also in GTA V
i think the Rhino tank is like a leopard 2A4 and an TTD both smashed together into one.
Gta came out in a time where copyright for guns and military stuff mattered alot more than today which is why the rhino exists
4:53
OH, A VERDEJA II!!!
Is nice to see a spanish original tank for once, thanks for adding that image❤️
i think a few things for the gta tank could be explained by saying something along the lines of "oh well its not really a main battle tank its more just something they have domestically in case they need it for some reason" for example the weird hatches and some riveted panels
Yeah, the whole vibe of this tank screams "for national guard/domestic use only" to me. It's definitely not meant for tank fighting overseas, rather for supporting infantry with how it's designed + the external turret ammo boxes being possibly used to refill an infantry squad low on ammunition. It's literally just a modern IJA-era tank, in terms of design philosophy + case use.
I believe The European Canadian said the Rhino is based off the South African Olifant Mk2. But not sure what Rockstar's offiial answer is.
Did I just see Foxhole? Because the Hatchet is gonna be very intersting (espically now with the reduction in size).
Yes, you did, my good sir. I see you are a man of quality! His channel does have a few videos on foxhole
13:40
Most casual gamers would assume the only way into a tank is from a roof hatch
Pretty interesting and well made, really wanna see what others tanks you're gonna do
funny thing, you can actually be shot from under the tank because ur character clips through the hull and one of your legs are slightly outside of the tank body
12:38 I can forever not unsee that you climb into the left track
I got this in my recommended and I can see why. As someone who watches all the gamespot vids with Jonathan reacting to guns, I see you’ve gone for a very similar style and I love it!
The rhino is basically a leopard 2A4
You should do one for the other tank added in GTA a few years ago, the Khanjali, based on some Polish stealth tank concept
I like anyone who puts a BT poster in the studio shot.
The tracks go under The drivers Hatch😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rhino tank looks like a cold war era tank.
The „track links“ at the front seem to be at least inspired by the rubber (i think) inserts of the leopard 2 tanks. You can find similar spare inserts on a lot of leopards in pictures. Whats weird is, is that the rhinos track dont have those inserts.
The abrams definitely isn't sneaking up on anybody being that loud
bro is magnificent 💀 nice hair btw
May I add that Artillery HE shells can often have proximity fuses so they explode just before hitting the ground so it has more destructive capability (including SPGs the M1019 I believe does have them for example)
That intro felt almost as long as waiting for food in the microwave
He forgot how terrible the tank is, can’t even upgrade it for no reason. And the coax doesn’t even work
The battleblock theatre music in the background👌🏼
really great video! maybe do a video about the TM-02 Khanjali as well?
I like how it's a leapored but without the composite armor
Dont forget that T34 sitting around a junk yard in los santos xD
I can't wait for you to be a massive youtuber :)
20:31 actually battlefield 4 does have different ammo types. The mbts have sabot, HEATFS, and HE. They even get special rounds like flechette/canister and guided shells. Flechette acts like a giant shotgun round, firing dozens of darts out of the barrel that wrecks infantry at close to medium range. Guided rounds can track targets other teammates have locked onto using either the gunners own SOFLAM or a recon class using his own SOFLAM devices
Love the video, would like to see you tackle the Khanjali and Scarab tanks on GTA also!
I’m gonna make a guess I could be super wrong, but I think the Khanjali has the chassis of a Russian tank, maybe T-90? (If that is an actual tank I’m an aviation expert excuse my mistakes)
@@Stryker_1 no, the Khanjali is entirely based on the Polish PL-01 'stealth' tank concept. It's not even a real production tank, it was based entirely off a concept model.
@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 cardboard slapped on CV90 basically
27:12 I hate you for that
amogus
Maybe GTA v takes place in an alternate universe where the US did pick the leopard in the trials that you were talking about for all you know that could have happened
18:08
The Leopard 2 AEV 3 requires an ignition key to start the master switch, this key is interchangeable between vehicles but its still a key
When I saw the thumbnail, my brain went "M51" Im getting M3 Lee, M51, Leopard 2A4, and a few more.
Another reason for shells to blow up after a set distance in the game. Is definetely so that they wouldn't just continually go forever if you sent them towards the horizon. Meaning that with enough shots and no premature explosion the game could crash.
Yes 👍🏼
This is the kind of content I want !
"we talk about tanks on my discord" having me on there would result in a few... warlords.
also nice, BBT theme.
3:30 you can see on the texturing of the track there is something in place of the guide horns, it just inst 3d modeled onto it
The tank seems like it has an autoloader that loads quick 😂
People call us nerds for knowing “to much” about tanks but we aren’t nerds were Art Enthusiast
like how the tank is breathing which leads me to believe its some sort of armored american animal. Yet is also very german since it's a leopard 2A4, sort of.
Good vid and good music taste 👍
Maybe I'm reading too much into it but the extra roof armor makes me think it was modeled after a sweedish leopard 2
Neat video. Would enjoy a similar one on a recent tank GTA Online added; called the Khanjali I think.
the "track links" on the front are actually supposed to be ice cleats you can see them on leopard tanks basically you install them every few track links for added traction on icy terrain
Not any sort of expert either, but I should point out that (in reference to 17:30) the T-80's gas turbine sounds kinda similar to a high rpm turbine engine. Not exactly the same as in game, but it's plausible sounding.
Also, especially lately, militaries have been investing a lot into airburst ammunition for tanks. Pretty much everyone has them now, though I think the Soviets were the first ones to use something like that in any large number (in the form of time fuse high-explosive shells) from a regular tank. They're useful for targeting fortifications and low-flying helicopters. I know the T-80U (or one of its subvariants) for one has a shell that can do this, and it's slaved to the laser rangefinder. The K2 also has something like this, and also has a top-attack munition which can similarly airburst.
If the turbine engine sounds orgasmic, this guy really must like doing laundry 😄 Washing machine starting the spin was first thing that came to mind. Just heck of a lot louder.
so from what the descriptions says it would seem that gtaV takes place in an alternate universe where the Leopard 2AV won against the XM-1 and became the US’s main battle tank. (words totally not stolen from spookston) something i have noticed tho is the hull does not resemble that of the Leo 2AV. it’s relatively flat front on the hull reminds me more of the South African TTD main battle tank.
One cool thing is the suspension, the tracks flow with the wheels
Guide horns? As a tanker for over 4 years, I've always known them and always heard of them as center guides. Lol.
12:13 - Abrams has a periscope built into the loaders hatch. And well. 3 periscopes built into the drivers hatch.
You also mever mentioned that the tank also fired presumably a 120mm cannon once every 2 seconds. Which is a pretty fast fire rate.
I do somewhat incorrectly go by what they were potentially called back in WWII. As there were still plenty of tanks that didn’t have their guides run through the center of a pair of road wheels (best immediate example is the Sherman). I know the US military at the time did differentiate between a “center guide track” and one in which the guides lay on the edges. Nowadays pretty much the whole world goes for center guided tracks so it’s the only term used anymore.
the reason is DEFINITELY NOT explosion = more damage
what it is is that explosions look freaking cool and make the action more intense
well, the rivets could have been external ERA plating socket points like how the bradley looks without it's extra ERA attached
and also the Coax gun is pretty accurate, the appearance of the large coax barrel is actually the armored shroud
you should check the Khanjali Tank. It's in GTA aswell and based on the PL-01.
Hi, fellow tank enthusiast here(ALSO NOT AN EXPERT)
"Track Links" in front of the hull at 5:45 are supposed to be track attachments found on Leopard tanks for moving on ice. Kinda like tyre chains for cars but for caterpillar tracks instead.
Also at 6:43, while the barrel tube composition and the bore evacuator on the Abrams' and Leopard's gun are the same, pretty much everything else isn't. The Abrams' gun(designated M256 or M256A1[mostly just lighter variant]) uses a big ass spring for its recoil system while the Leopard uses a hydraulic recoil system(this is one of the reasons the Abrams can't carry the L/55 found on the Leopard 2A6 and beyond). Also, the Breech Block that the Abrams uses was the one designed for the RH140mm main gun, which gives the Abrams the ability to fire rounds with higher chamber pressure. This difference in chamber pressure allows the Abrams to fire more advanced APFSDS rounds, and during the 1990s resulted in the Abrams being capable of firing the M829A2 "Super Sabot" while the Leopard 2A4/5 could not, at the risk of destroying the breech. That said, they can fire each other's ammunition that aren't sabot(HEAT, HE, etc.). But for the most part yeah, its the same barrel.
14:50 If I recall correctly, the bow gunner's existence had to do with personal protection for the vehicle with the primary reason being that the Turret traverse usually wasn't good enough for a single Coax MG alone to be the tank's defensive armament against infantry and light targets. With the improvement of turret traverse drives in modern tanks, this became a non issue and so the Coax was deemed sufficient for personal protection.
Loved the video, Loving the channel so far especially the one on Shermans(Fellow Sherman Lover also).
The reason you first think of the Leo 2A4 is because you've never heard of the TTD (Tank Technology Demonstrator) from South Africa
I reference the TDD in the video…
Rockstar themselves said it was based off of the 2A4 and a simple google search would show you it’s a 1:1 recreation with rockstars style of copyright parody.
Good video! You should review the TM-02 Khanjali aka more futuristic rhino in the game.
It's the Loggim MBT from South Africa.
the reverse having a smaller turning circle is probably a similar reason it has truch engine noises, it's probably using the same controller just copied over and modified for the weight and maneuverablitiy they wanted out of the tank
why make something new when modifying something you already have is good enough, quicker, easier, and therefore most importantly cheaper than making something unique and more accurate.
You can't tell what the coax machine gun would be externally. If you were to judge the Abrams based on the big external shroud you'd think it was an auto-cannon as well, when of course it's just an M240, but you can't tell based on the external shroud.
fun fact war thunder used to have barrel collilsion but people complained it made game too hard as they couldn't take their tiger down narrow ways, so it got removed.,..... i love barrel collision
Actually, we haven't fully gotten rid of riveted armor yet, as Italy's CIO Ariete uses that method still.
I always used to make fictional tank designs on paper and in blender, like the e69 a cross between a German and a Soviet tank then some other
17:27 The Abrams Gas Turbine Engine was originally used on many us aircraft which is why it does sound similar to how something like a Jet that is turning on its engines
American M830A1 is a HEAT-FS round with a proximity detonation sensor designed to shoot down Helicopters. It is capable of being used from the modern 120mm M1A2 SepV3. The Chinese have a variant, but I can't recall if the Russians do
the Rhino in GTA V visually seems to be a mishmash of the Leopard 2A1 and the South American TTD
fun fact, when you stop the time in GTA V when firing from the Rhino, it actually just sends an rpg round at a very high speed, so technically the game is correct with the explosion effect since the rpg uses heat warhead
The RPG uses multiple types of warheads. I think the one in GTA V resembles HE more than HEAT
fun fact some cannon barrels are actually modeled in war thunder
Saw foxhole, would love to see a video on the tanks of foxhole, good vid btw
I'm surprised you didn't mention the blow out tops on the back of the turret, as well as the fact that the shells have no bullet drop, and that 120mm gun was a smooth bore, the reloading speed is to fast even for an auto loader, the fact that your character can control the whole tank single handedly, this looks like a four man crew tank with a loader a driver a gunner and a commander. There are a lot of things that are really cool about this tank but it really just is a piece of sh*t for me. One tank the you would love to look at is the just cause 4 warchief heavy tank. The only problem that I think you'll find with that tank is the 1.2s reload time. But JC4 has a 18inch railroad gun that can reload at the same speed. Still you should check it out! It would make a great video.
6:34 Not quite - The gun on the Abrams is called M256 and is not exactly the same gun as the Rh 120. The breech and recoil mechanisms are very different (M256 is more compact) and the barrel also isn't the same, as for example the MRS (muzzle reference sensor) is in different places on both of the guns.
6:51 To me it looks like the barrel shroud for the coaxial MG of the Abrams.
22:15 Well, there are rounds like this, for example the German DM11 HE-MP or the American M830 family of HEAT-MP rounds. They can be used as airburst rounds or even to engage low and slow flying targets, such as helicopters.
I'm not a tank nerd but my instinct looking at it is a tiger and abrams had a freaky up child
funny enough the round fired is the rpg round for the rpg if you could stop the round and look
what ive seen to look like is the
leo2a4
abrams( more like the xm1 in the rear non 'lifted' section)
and the TTD the south african tank
On the topic on the ammunition exploding mid air, the Leopard 2PL has a rather unique type of ammunition designated DM11 (and other leopards can use a variant of it called DM31) that can airburst/point detonate
Tracks in GTA V work the same way as in War Thunder: They don't
Also, while the tube is of the same design, the Rh120 and the M256 are quite different guns. The M256 is mated to a different breech, gun mount and recoil mechanism and is designed to withstand much higher pressures and last longer before getting replaced. The gun breech itself was designed to be mated to both a 120mm and a 140mm, and can withstand much higher pressures than the breech of the Leopard 2. This, in fact, is why on the field manual of the M829 projectiles it states that you should only fire them from non-M256 guns in case of emergency as damage could occur to both the gun and crew.
I’m surprised you didn’t cover that one hell of an autoloaders. Like damn, what’s that 2-3 seconds? 4? It doesnt look like 4 to me. They steal classified Japanese Type-10 autoloader documents or something? 😂
It could also be slightly based off the Type 90 Japanese MBT or the South African MBT that looks like a Leopard, I can't remember the name right now.
Hey I remember there being a shell that was meant to explode on impact and it makes the armor on the inside of the take to turn to shrapnel basically
It probably is a hybrid of the Leopard 2A4, TTD and Type 90 as well as elements from other MBTs.
This was really neat, i love it when people use their real world knowledge to rate and react to game stuff.
Will you have a gander at the other tank in GTA 5 as well by any chance?
I would also add a detail to the tracks they cause way too much road damage considering its using nato style rubber pads not bare steel.
If you look at the Stuart and his versions you can clearly see that not all wheels are propelled, but good for you to mention it for all the GTA V 9yo (no front) to click in
Tbh, I'm leaning more towards this being a further development of south african TTD and some other designed intended for "no strings attached" export. Reason? Player character can freely buy it. So I'm leaning into it being some joint venture that came after the failure of south african TTD(uses variation of Leo2 hull and some british and french components), british Vickers MBT Mk.10(also uses Leo2 based hull, but with british 120mm gun), brazilian Osorio(once again a mix of british and french components) and french AMX-40(as you've mentioned, french use this style of hatch. And they were fans of coaxial 20mm). A last ditch attempt to salvage all the aforementioned projects that in GTA universe finally bore some result. Even if 1,5 million feels like a laughably low price even for a used tank on a black market.
The riveted armor feels like bolt on applique composite, possibly MEXAS as you can see it used for side skirts too. So the "vision ports" may actually be small maintenance hatches to allow limited access to space between original armor and applique one for electrical wiring(for example frontal one seems like ideal place for searchlight while side one is suspiciously close to smoke mortars). Or to clean it/fill it with something.
Having MG armor on the side is okay as it looks like ammo for .50 HMG and it would be faster and easier to reach for this one... if only it was on the same side of the turret as commander's hatch. Reaching for those boxes would expose commander, but it is easier to get them from outside.
If it's export intended design then having both turbine and diesel engine as options is quite a logical way to inflate the market viability. Seems like you got the wrong model delivered to you though. Which means that some dictator had also gotten a turbine one by accident in his batch of diesel ones:D
We see blow out panels, but it also probably has autoloader since one man(with the help of hidden loyal henchman always hiding in the tank and playing with main gun) can use it to limited capacity. So bustle autoloader. A very FRENCH thing to have too.
Also if it were to be using british 120mm, it would mean that the ammo it could be using could be HESH. Dual purpose, provides big explosion, but with comparably little amount of shrapnel since the shell has thin casing.
So I believe that in GTA universe there is a joint international arms conglomerate working in South Africa, Brazil, UK and France among other places. Might also be used as a way to explain why names and looks of most guns are so different. They're either licensed variations of existing designs or straight up copies.
I always thought this tank looks a little more like the South African heavily modified Centurion tank (TTD tank).
it look like a 2a4 and a TTD had a baby
30:15 the three big ones are. The 105 at the time was about the same as the 120 and wasnt really any better at the time and the us had more 105 ammo. Another reason was the armor was a better against ke then the Chrysler but was nowhere near as good against heat warheads such as ones used on rpgs witch were believed to be the primary threat and they didnt put the armor in the turret and didnt say so to lie about the tanks weight. The 2aV with its armor inside the turret is accually about the same weight as the Abrams is now and that was just absolutely unacceptable so they got mad and told them to get lost.
the rhino round exploding mid air might be inspired by the one the early abrams had for helicopters
Rhino has been used as the name for tanks in GTA's since GTAIII so it definitely isn't a reference to Rheinmetall lol
The British mainly riveted our tanks because we didn't have the manufacturing power to do anything else fast enough. We were fighting almost all of Europe at the time since the Nazis took almost all of Europe. We also had to fight in Africa and Asia too so our limited resources were spread out. Also yeah, train factories.