A Case for Color Blindness | Coleman Hughes | TED
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- Racial inequality provokes passionate opinions and varied ideas of how to build a fair, equitable society. One topic that's been contentiously debated for generations is color blindness: the concept that we should look beyond race when thinking about equity. In this talk, writer and podcast host Coleman Hughes makes a case in favor of the idea, sharing why he thinks the key to reducing inequality and easing racial tensions is replacing race-based policies with class-based ones.
TED welcomes a variety of perspectives on the issues that shape our world. To capture another viewpoint on the idea of color blindness, TED partnered with the nonpartisan media group Open to Debate, bringing together Coleman Hughes with New York Times columnist Jamelle Bouie to debate the question: "Does color blindness perpetuate racism?" Watch the debate here: • Coleman Hughes vs. Jam...
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If you're going to suppress someone as intellectually honest as Coleman Hughes, it's time to rethink your policy and goals.
I think you hit the nail on the head. The powerful elite use racism as a tool to distract and cause dissension, much like the blue/red political system. Hughes' no nonsense, grass roots, completely common sense policies would near obliterate hate and racism. The gov't would not be allowed to use its vilify/victimize yo-yo philosophy that it peddles through mainstream media.
It seems like TED either has a diversity problem or a small group of TED employees intimidate their colleagues so they’re afraid to share differing perspectives.
I can't see either of the "replies" to this well observed comment.
When the woke take over or gain sufficent influence in an organization all thinking stops.
amen.
Coleman is a real antiracist, in the true meaning of the world. We need more people like him.
Yes, because he understands that race really doesn't exist. Ethnicity exists.
I agree with the sentiment but I would rather call him a non-racist, like an atheist is a non-believer, not necessarily an antitheist. Coleman really doesn't give a f*ck about the race of his fans or critics, as it should be. Edit: The reluctance to call him an antiracist might also be caused by the fact that most proclaimed antiracists are racist to the bone.
If you don't add a normative dimension in any way, shape or form to the concept of race, you are not really anti racism, you just don't view race as an important feature to begin with.
@@hester234this is exactly correct
@@hester234 I am 34 not American and Coleman’s view was what antiracism always meant to me. I know in recent years disgusting figures like Ibrahim X Kendi called themself antiracist but I think we should take back the term.
I misread this as antichrist and was very confused for a second. I agree though.
How this talk was ever controversial within the Ted community, absolutely blows my mind. Coleman is a national treasure that speaks common sense.
It’s counter to “the narrative”. It places Blacks in a box other than “victim”. That is why it’s controversial. So much for TED being non-biased and “without an agenda”.
The racists, I mean “diversity experts”, don’t want opposing views that do not match their race bait, victim ideology.
The audience gave him a standing ovation. Clearly the community present was not opposed.
It was controversial because, as Hughes noted in an interview with Glenn Loury, snowflake Chris Anderson gave into three or four people in the TED organization who were made uncomfortable by the talk.
Ted staff is ideologically motivated and will try to censor or shadow ban anything that doesn't fit the narrative.
This is what a TEDTalk should be. Making you rethink on an issue. Especially one where a narrative has been forced on society.
The fact that they were contemplating not publishing this bothers me. I’m glad they did. But the fact that they considered not doing so says a lot.
my thoughts as well. sheesh, TED, wtf
This I didn't know. Wow, that is a truly depressing sign of the times, though not shocking, that TED has such biased fervor in the ranks as to deem the ideas of Coleman Hughes NOT worth spreading. As a brand strategist of 20 years, I would like to hear from the board of directors of TED how they reconcile the TED brand, once a liberal bastion for diverse thinking and problem solving, with their current corporate culture that tried to deplatform Coleman despite his commitment to challenging bad popular arguments and addressing actual social problems.
Hey at least they did publish it though! I take it as a sign that wisdom and freedom of speech are still alive and well.
Is there a source for this?
@@chrisred4579Coleman is the source for Ted negotiating to release this talk.
I'm utterly horrified that this almost did not get released. When did it become OK to start suppressing this kind of discourse?
About 10 years ago.....
I mean, I could understand if Coleman was a white nationalist with radical views but he isn’t - he’s simply calling for color blindness which is something we’ve been striving for for decades
@@brianmeen2158 The "woke train" have been running for a while (+10 years), haven´t you noticed?
Does anyone have any evidence that it "almost did not get released?" Who said so?
Immediately following the death of George Floyd, which marked the beginning of the escalation of tactics meant to suppress discourse & coerce conformity, superficially behind the banner of "woke" racial justice dogmatism.
I love how they didn't post this video until the speaker had to literally ask them where it was
After Tim Urban (speaker for the most-viewed TED talk) pointed it out to him. Coleman's so good faith that he didn't think to check, even after all the issues behind the scenes.
Racist Ted tried to suppress this video because they love keeping racism on life support
"color blindness is a metaphor like warmhearted"
It's sad that Coleman needs to say obvious things like this. It shows he knows his audience. Brilliant talk.
It's only sad because people use color blindness to ignore the complaints of marginalized people. If people weren't so quick to use "color blindness" as an excuse to allow discrimination then it wouldn't need explanation.
@@Sundji, but do you object to the concept of "color blindness" fundamentally?
Addressing people without regard to their race doesn't mean ignoring marginalized people. Marginalized people aren't a specific race. There are marginalized people of every race. Color blindness is the antithesis of discrimination. Where discrimination treats people with specific traits differently, color blindness treats people the same regardless of what their traits are. Your argument ignores that fundamental core tenant of color blindness. It's as if you weren't listening to Coleman Hughes' talk at all. If we are going to come together as a people we are going have to start actually listening to each other.
@@skreeeboy You got no response so I think you have your answer.
@@Darling137, I suppose so.
The best TED talk of the last 5 years. Shame on how you guys treated him. Props to Coleman
NO, this is highly racist. Flag as hate speech. There is something called historical reconstruction laws, and if discrimination goes up, it shows that diversity and inclusion laws are working correctly, generating pressure. When power starts diversifying to all races, obviously the race relation is gonna go down momentarily, because privilegiests are losing ground. The solution is always invest in education of the old ways. Flag as hate speech, this doesn't belong in youtube. Attacking himself profiting his skin color to attack a historical fight for freedom, all for personal gains, to have some views, clicks and being a "TED talker". Flag it.
Exactly. -The DEI brigade didn’t like the talk so they made a fuss. Time to drop them
The way TED treated him reenforces every point that he made, showing just how far down the rabbit hole our society has gone.
Truly. This is a talk that is in the spirit of the original TED program - that original spirit has been eroded over the last several years and the treatment of this presentation demonstrates this. As with too much in our society today there was a fringe group within the TED organization who were allowed to unfairly influence the treatment of this video. This is also occurring within the two primary political parties in the US (Democrat and Republican) where there are people who make up a very small fringe of each of these parties who have extreme views are driving the narrative and division in our country.
Great talk! Shame on TED for wanting to censor this.
I’d applaud TED as an organization for not caving to their own members who would stifle freedom of speech. That is unless I’m missing some information here…
@@alang8243 the missing information is any evidence that TED considered suppressing the talk. Does anyone have any documents demonstrating this?
@@agabrielrose I’m hearing that Coleman Hughes himself expressed this in his own podcast.
@@agabrielrose We found TED's alt account.
@@atgrandfathersknee3065 No; you found a weirdo historian alarmed by the current laundering of obvious racist talking points' account.
I have hardly watched every Ted Talk in the world, but I've certainly never seen another Ted Talk where the host walked on stage and made the presenter respond to an opposing viewpoint. This isn't normal, is it? Even then, Coleman's response was wonderful. Changing the test so that it gives back the results we want might make us feel good for a time, but it certainly doesn't fix the problem.
I noticed this too. I've seen several of these and never had the presenter been questioned afterwards, at least of the ones I've seen.
Imagine a theoretical astrophysicist getting up and talking about the behavior of galaxies in the distant universe and how that affects our understanding of the beginning of our galaxy and afterwards the TED guy comes up and says "We had John Smith come here and talk about how dangerous it is to draw conclusions about our existence using theoretical science and that all that is explained in Genesis, what would you say to that?"
@@Joe45-91 great point!!
I wish I could "like" this more times to help get Coleman the recognition he deserves. he is an amazing thinker. Shame on TED for suppressing him...
Downvoting the other videos can help ensure equality of outcome, in the spirit of his detractors!
Coleman is a hero. The fact that this is being swept under the rug by political ideologues is a absolute disgrace.
the view count about to go nuclear
It's bitter times when you become a hero by speaking out such self-evident truths.
Racist Ted tried to suppress this video because they love keeping racism on life support
It is a shame to the TED organization that there were members who wanted to prevent this talk from being posted.
Where can I find more information on this?
But a credit to them that they ultimately did!
@@johrehColeman Hughes mentioned on his own podcast that TED wanted to not release the talk to the public. They did, but only on the condition he debate the topic with a journalist from NYT. That debate is available on Coleman’s podcast (and on CZcams). Imho Coleman won, but it’s an interesting exchange of ideas all the same.
@@dtgris7291 thanks...I will have a listen to that.
TED is a partisan organization.
I cannot fathom how anyone who was genuinely bothered by this talk manages to function in the day to day world. It's truly mind-blowing.
I am going to latch onto the fact that this was allowed to be published by Ted at all and that the audience' applause wasn't filtered out to create an artificial sense of displeasure as a good sign for humanity. Even though the beast of the machine is geared against intellectual honesty and all things honesty really, this made it out and couldn't be denied. Coleman gets my love.
Racist Ted tried to suppress this video because they love keeping racism on life support
How could TED have contemplated censoring this? We need good, honest discussions like this one.
That’s what “liberals” are all for these days: censoring anyone who questions or challenges their positions.
Halp, the man is speaking from a position of reason and rationality, SHUT IT DOWN!
@@bhante1345 Quick!! Get a racially motivated department to dogpile onto it!
Double blinded studies discriminate the p-hackers' desire for captivating results! Blinding studies is just ignoring the problem, so clearly we should be considering quotas to ensure all scientific results get an equal outcome!
and thats the million dollar question...
I watched this TED Talk after reading Hughes’ article today in The Free Press. I shake my head at the thought that what he has to say was in any way controversial enough to warrant almost not publishing. The TED leaders need to grow a sturdier backbone in my opinion.
I also found this from The Free Press.
100% agree. That they would allow themselves to be steamrolled by a tiny minority of their employees, rather than staying true to TED's mission, is mind-boggling!
I agree with you 100%
They need to live their mission. Grow some integrity.
It's called weak leadership at TED. Employees aren't entitled to 'capture and control' a company's culture... they serve at the pleasure of those who write their paycheck. Now, entitled babies do need a place to gather and consort, but TED isn't it.
Thank you for posting this very important and thoughtful talk.
Please continue to expand your channel to embrace and encourage critical thinking instead of bowing down to mainstream culture.
We, Americans, are more alike and not as divided as the mainstream media pushes.
Imagine living in a world where saying we should treat people EQUALLY in our personal lives without regard to trivial external characteristics like "race" is considered "hate speech". Yet that is where we live today. Thank you, Coleman, for subjecting yourself to all these ridiculous attacks just for saying the obvious. The rest of us need to stand up for sanity too!
Do you know what equity is?
@@nikkihanover7922 Sorry, the "equity" argument has been debunked by intellectuals like Thomas Sowell over and over again.
Humanity has lived with murder, theft, adultery, lying and every other form of sin for its whole history. I find it silly to think somehow we have eliminated the sin racism.
It’s easy to see why Kendi is afraid to debate Coleman. It’s also shocking anyone employed at ted could listen to this and want to cancel it
Kendi is no antiracist but in reality a racist Black Nationalist that promoted his pseudonym of antiracism as misdirection.
Kendi would never debate him. Coleman would DESTROY him and he knows it.
God, I'd pay to watch that debate. With a large popcorn and soda!
Kendi is afraid to debate anyone. Why the heck would he risk exposing himself when things are working out so great right now.
Kendi is a grifter whose success far outshines his competence.
To be threatened by this talk is a sign you lack emotional maturity at best. A well presented argument and worthy of more recognition.
Worst, it’s a sign of being captured by a dogmatic ideology, in which they think their beliefs are the robot valid ones, and dissent is heresy.
And at worst it’s evidence that you support a bigoted ideology that seeks to make skin color the deciding factor in how people are treated. In short: racism.
It's just controlling of a narrative, maturity has nothing to do with it. Political policy based on colorblindness is quite different than policy based on "equality of outcomes"...
Apparently, some TED staffers didn't feel "safe" that the ideas in this video were being published by TED. If you are a faithful social justice fundamentalist, then contrary ideas appear as a threat. Therefore unsafe.
They lack integrity and intellectual honesty. Their caving into staff emotions over Coleman's views rooted in MLK Jr's message went against their entire ethos. It also highlights their hypocrisy. Would they suppress Dr. King's speeches if they came out today and he did a TED talk? I shudder to think if a white man had been giving this speech instead. Don't they believe that they should be amplifying voices within the black community?? It's childish and backward.
I'm from Europe and while we have our own issues over here, I'm puzzled and somewhat frightend why this obviously correct approch is considered to be controversial.
We've been shamed into submission by a pretentious upper class that lacks wisdom.
Honest Americans are puzzled in the same way. Bad ideas have insidiously entrenched themselves in culture, education and institutions. Hughes with his points here, and honest people everywhere, need to speak up.
He is so intelligent but also performed incredibly well and came across as humble and well-meaning. Phenomenal
So they almost didn't publish this. Decided to be appear to be fair and balanced, and then made sure to "correct" him immediately after the talk. Stunning and brave of them.
and he quipped back perfectly illustrating and explaining how it was a "faux solution."
I love the part where the old white guy started lecturing the black guy on racism and telling him to his face that he is wrong. Normally phrasing something that way disgusts me, but damn if he is not eliciting an emotional response. Insightful and heroic of him.
I also read their letter about how color blindness is bad because when people are not colorblind it is bad and therefore colorblindness is bad. And some psychologist has data to show how bad color blindness is when people are not colorblind. I have not read such stupid double talk since 1984.
This sudden focus to bring racism back in fashion seems like a bad idea to me. I hope his message of colorblindness succeeds instead.
How terrible some TED employees tried to prevent this being realised. I heard the CEO of TED recently describe TED as wanting to challenge and allow all opinions, yet he took close to 6 months because of threats by a few employees.
To be fair, TED generally waits about that time (or longer) to upload the talks from the Vancouver conference. I'm just glad they posted it!
All it takes is one or two activist zealots in an org to cause a problem, same w/ the tr*ns nonsense.
They need to fire the racists who did everything to stop this from being published.
You need to read / watch Coleman’s story about this video
Just listened to Chris Anderson on Sam Harris’ podcast attempt to justify TED’s treatment of Coleman by saying “a few years ago Coleman wouldn’t even have been allowed to give this talk.” Astonishing.
Great stuff. Just heard Coleman talk about this debacle on the Glenn Lowery podcast. Really dark times we're living in when a company will cave to a group of lunatic employees who think this talk is racist. Ted talks doesn't deserve someone like Coleman Hughes.
TED is lucky to have this man on their stage; we’re all lucky to hear him!
The Tyranny of the Minority tried their best (with TED) to make sure you never saw this. You ought to remember that, and it ought to be included in your laudatory comments.
There was a good point about the Orchestra Analogy... and the solution is not to placate diverse candidates. Well, its not to ONLY placate diverse candidates by offering funding to pursue goals. You still need active representation - what of all the musicians in the area?
This is an issue of finding and hiring talent locally.... do you hire people who arrived from overseas looking for work visa and abuse your power? Do you hire out of state and abuse your power? Do you hire out of the immediate proximity of the city and abuse your power?
---> Because it points to neglect. Neglect to not hire from the talent pool in your area. Intentionally excluding people based on race because you would be more comfortable if there was only 1 black man on your floor. Neglect to hire the best of the best the cream of the crop in talent, without acknowledging that the job requirements are arbitrary to begin with, is ammended as needed, and the interview process is more hostile towards "lesser candidates". We are lesser in your eyes and through your efforts.
I find it interesting that the TED team felt threatened by this, not necessarily the audience. That tells us there is very little diversity of thought and opinion within TED and they might want to do something about that.
This is what happens when inside you are too cowardly to stand up to your own mission. Instead you are beholden to a few rotten, close minded employees who felt offended. Of course not YOU, but TED!! Hypocrisy at its greatest.
Many institutions have recently become governed by feelings rather than logic, data and science; a phenomenon dubbed "woke fragility."
FINALLY!!! A breath of fresh air and logical thinking! Thank you @Coleman Hughes for your talk!!!! We need more talks like Coleman's viewpoints rather than woke identity politics.
Thanks for the Q and A at the end too - “changing [lowering] the bar is not the solution to the problem.” Providing musical education to any kid who is interested in music, including those without the money/ability to access instruments and musical instruction is the solution. What we want to do is create an opportunity to make great music, not create a situation where mediocre music is valued because of the colour of the music makers.
Bothers me a great deal that TED would consider delaying the publishing of this brilliant piece. Coleman Hughes is a national treasure. He brings people together. We need more of this, not less. Did TED also suppress the circulation of this piece? Curious.
Yes. They didn't initially release it to youtube (it was only on their webpage). And it was not spread or re-released along with their other talks. Other ted videos on race from this time average between 400 and 700K views when his had about 50K. He discusses it on a video he dropped today on his youtube page.
@@mejohn101 Thank you. Just watched that clip today. Appalling.
@@rosemaryalles6043 Yeah, no worries Rosemary. It is appalling. I mean all he is saying, really, is the racial view of the civil rights movement. That one be judged not by the color of their skin but content of character. Legally, socially, and personally. This is worthy of suppression? Tears my heart out on so many levels to see these ideals being washed away by such a short sighted, obviously hypocritical worldview. Have u read Black Boy by Richard Wright. A great refresher course on morality that transcends race through entirely racial experience- to go beyond race and see what it is to be a human.
@@mejohn101 Thanks for the tip. No, have not read it, but on my list now.
Precisely. The community is *the human* community. Human. That must be the goal. To see and honor the humanity in each other.
To think we elevate grifters like Ibram Kandi and Robin Diangelo while suppressing true anti-racist heroes like Coleman Hughes is disgusting and says a lot about our sick society today.
How could people be not appreciative of this type of talk. Its brilliant as a blackman i resonate 100%
You don't need to tell us what color you are. That's kind of the point.
the point is that people still treat POC worse in this world@@toaster4693
Your race is 100% irrelevant. I have no idea how one resonates with something as a (asian/black/white etc.) man or woman. You just resonate with things as a human.
@adrianl7147 I can't speak for black people, but as woman my gender has negatively impacted way too many aspects of my life for me to just ignore it. Also being color blind doesn't mean the word "black" should become a taboo.
Coleman Hughes is very interesting. I am glad the View had him on today. He held his own against them and their biased hatefulness. I just ordered his book.
If this is how TED treats someone like Coleman Hughes - and a topic as important as colorblindness - what else are they suppressing? This seriously compromises TEDs integrity and reliability as a source of open, free thinking, democratized ideas.
It's insane that not discriminating someone based on race has became such a radical idea
It’s the position of a large majority of ordinary people, and it’s the law. So it seems like TED shouldn’t consider it somehow illegitimate.
But the problem is, how do you address race based harm without race based solutions? The controversial part isn't about discrimination. Everyone can agree on that. The controversial part is when benefits go to a marginalized race and white men start crying about it. That's the only controversy.
@@Sundji it’s easy, not hard, to address alleged race-based “harm” without violating the core tenant of the constitution. Yes reinstituting de jure racism, while denying that is happening, is going to make some of the victims of your policies complain. If you won’t live under equality then we are enemies.
@@Sundjiah yes, using racism to fight racism 🙄
@@Sundji Coleman answered that perfectly by making it class-based rather than race-based. That way it still helps racial minorities who need help and not the ones that don't without perpetuating racism and animosity. Additionally, it's not 1940's Mississippi anymore. What is a marginalized race? I might agree it's blacks in innercity America, but because of progressive policies and not racism, unless it's the progressives are the racists. Please see Jason Reilly's "Please Stop Helping Us" or Shelby Steele's "White Guilt".
Perfectly explained, if you disagree with this young man then you’re the problem.
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I disagree.
@@Shambayamiti what specifically do you disagree with?
Apparently, employees at TED actually tried to block this talk from being published. They had to come to a compromise by inviting Jamelle to debate Coleman before they would agree to publish this talk.
@@stargazerh112 the general principle of colorblindness is what I disagree with so nothing specific, just the entire idea.
This was an amazing speech by Coleman very thoughtful and insightful. How anyone could be offended by this blows my mind and it’s disappointing that he had to bend over backwards to get this released.
It only offends the rigid social justice fundamentalists since it goes against their orthodox views. From what I understand, it was a small group of employees at TED who pushed to have this talk suppressed.
Most of his talking points sound so basic and fundamentally logic, that it’s almost uncanny to hear him speak them out on such a stage. There are some moments where he really sounds like a kindergarten teacher talking to 5 year olds.
Why people need to be reminded of what he says is strange enough, but that there are actually people who desperately try to find controversy in this is completely absurd. I guess it shows that some people are actually scared about solving the race issue, because it would deplete them of their core identity and motivation in life.
So I’m happy that this conversation is happening. It needs to be had.
Add me to the list of voices who are shocked that TED was not going to release this until other conditions were met.
Have you been in a coma for the last five years? What should shock you is that they published it at all.
A shame Ted attempted to suppress this talk. Coleman is exceptionally thoughtful young man.
This man is speaking pure music and they tried to shut him down. It’s unfathomable.
Coleman is awesome. We can address systemic issues at the ground level instead of manufacturing results at the finish line. Class and race tend to go hand-in-hand, so addressing the issue with class would also help the outliers and be less divisive
Yes 100%
I like what you said about not controlling the finish line.
It’s really surprising that so many people were freaking out about this talk. This is super mild and seems totally logical.
Truth is it wasn't many people at all. It was a small group of radical left-wing race activist employees at TED.
Logic is scary to a lot of people who live their lives gripped by their emotions
I doubt it was actually that many people. Just a very loud manipulative ideological minority.
@@PjRjHj earlier mentioned today on Glen Greenwald as a "safe space" in the TED corp. for those who IDENTIFY as black , a small group indeed
that last minute attempt at correction at the end tells you who TED is.............L.O.L.
@@PjRjHj yeah the ceo did what he did in the first place because some staff decided to file complaints
Shame on TED for thinking of not publishing this, keep up the good work Coleman!
They still suppressed it, and TED required Coleman to publicly debate his points afterwards as a condition to having the original talk posted. This is the only TED regarding race where something like that occurred. So they should still be ashamed, but the thing about cultists is that their sense of morality is so distorted, things they should be ashamed of doing seem "right" to them.
Do you even know what their side of the story is? Did you even try to seek it out before reacting?
@@andybaldman
Elaborate. This better be good.
@@googleisskynet7312 Google it. Look up Chris Anderson's tweet and read it for yourself. Don't trust me. There are just other perspectives on this topic, and TED simply wanted a discussion around them, which there should really be no problem about, if people are truly open to all ideas. It's being twisted into 'CoLeMaN wAS bEiNg SiLeNcEd! ShAmE oN TEd!'. But the fact is, people just have different perspectives (including black people who don't agree with Coleman's view), and it's worth at least finding out what they are before you decide. But you won't get to do that if you're too distracted being outraged because someone only gave you one side of the story in order to influence your reaction.
@@googleisskynet7312she won't , they abhor debate
Mr. Hughes is so forward thinking and brilliant and I look forward to Ted offering the stage to more critical thinkers like him.
Great talk. I need to learn why this is controversial because it seems common sense. Can't believe a perfectly reasonable perspective was in danger of being withheld by TED, a group I held in high regard.
I grew up in LA in the 90's where colorblindness was taught as a virtue. I had friends of all races and we just had fun together without worrying about race. We made jokes about race, but we all knew it was in fun and we felt like equals. Now that equity is the new popular idea, I think about people's race more than I ever did. I even subconsciously avoid interacting with some people of other races because I'm afraid I might say something wrong, and I hate that I do that. The focus on equity and treating people according to their race's disadvantage is only making things worse, from my personal experience.
Yes! You’re expected to be so conscious of race in todays society that it creates a huge gap between races, because there is this constant emphasis on “otherness”. That’s what the most violent racists in history emphasise also. I wonder why people don’t see the link?
If anyones complaint of "discomfort" is treated as threat or oppression as it is today, the result is counterproductive to genuine interaction. Because the potential harm outweighs the benefit. And with everyone turning the English language inside out to suit their own sordid views... It's no wonder.
100%
Yep. That mirrors my experiences growing up farther up the West Coast in the 90s. Different races---nobody better or worse than anyone else. I hate the fact that I find myself walking on eggshells now with black folks who are part of my extended family.
Did you miss the whole Rodney King thing?
I’m glad TED finally posted this. Shame on them for dragging their feet, this is the kind of conversation that America needs!
Not only America, but the whole of the West!
Profound talk! Every minute of it is so rich in great points! Kudos to Coleman and his leadership! Everyone should listen to it regardless of where you come from.
Masz racje
Well said. Class based policy would bring people together and actual improve people’s lives.
Yes, but how does that make the rich richer?
Not really, the USSR did it and things ended very very bad for millions..
Probs the best TED talk I’ve watched in the last decade, short, impactful, idea worth spreading
... and yet TED tried to withhold it because it didn't match the current orthodoxy.
An idea worth censoring, by TED's reckoning.
I hope everyone who watches this awesome Coleman Hughes lecture shares it. Based on the numbers, I'm fearful that CZcams is pushing it down the ladder. I think it would have more views if Coleman were treated fairly.
Article in Free Press today by Coleman Hughes makes your point.
No question TED is suppressing the reach of this video. Free Press article explains it.
Ironic that a talk about non-discrimination is being discriminated against.
Most people see "color blindness" and think of the condition. No one would click on a video advocating for it.
@@colinberg3342
That's absurd.
I first learned of Coleman Hughes via Ta-Nehisi Coates. When Coates spoke at the reparations hearing his speech circulated like wildfire and I thought it was an amazing perspective, only later (about a year) did I learn there was a side arguing against his position and it was Coleman Hughes who gave that message. I was floored by Hughes and have been following him ever since. I don't know what Coates is up to these days, but I'd rather attend 10 Hughes discussions before going to another Coates one, though I will continue to listen to Coates to hear a different perspective and judge for myself.
Great talk! This is the only way forward. We all need to stop letting ourselves be manipulated by the dividers that have no interest in letting us all get along. Imagine what we could accomplish!
Love how Coleman shut down the attempted 'correction' by the MC at the end. He even left the guy speechless. That's why many don't want to allow free speech or that these talks get published. The ego knows it's in danger
Just read Coleman’s piece in The Free Press. Shameful behavior from TED. Let’s get this more views to make it clear people want more content that challenges the mainstream orthodoxy
thank goodness for The Free Press! Read the responses published today from Adam Grant and Chris Anderson.
@@MorgenFrue118 Interesting responses. Chris's seemed sincere. Adam's seemed a bit strange as if he wanted to assert his openmindedness while also admitting to his lack thereof. It'd be nice to see him and Coleman speak on the issue to hear both sides in real time.
I’m here after watching the intro on The Glen Show with Coleman Hughes. I pressed pause to watch this first , and I’m glad I did.
Growing up in the 80s, being "color blind" was an honorable way of saying that you judge individuals based on their actions and character, not the color of their skin. Of course, that was also a time when colleges were a market place of free ideas and opposing view points were welcomed rather than supressed. Hopefully, Chris and his team will invite more speakers with diverse viewpoints on the platform. I enjoyed this talk.
Thank you for posting this. I would have been terribly dismayed if Ted had censored this. We need to stop with the destructive nature of identity politics.
I can’t believe that we are at a place in society where we are actually saying colorblindness is a bad thing. That was the goal for decades!!!
And I’m not surprised at all either that there was pushback to prevent this from being published. I’m glad it did.
Baffles me that this was so controversial that it had to be practically censored. Such a proactive approach to dealing with racism. Much better than all the reactionary flapping around we are doing.
I have been following Coleman for about a year. I always comment to my friends that I wish I had been this smart when I was in my 20s. He is what academics should aspire to emulate. Check him out. I often disagree with is conclusions but I never doubt that he has done the homework and comes with the receipts. Smart guy.
Coleman Hughes is a national treasure
A TED Talk worth listening to! Scandalous how they handled this talk.
That's the "tolerant" new age 'woke' left for you..
The current Dems seem to have lost most of their original values. Formerly pro-free speech. Now, they seek to, and actively suppress it.
Formerly anti-war. Now, they are funding Ukraine, meddling in a foreign conflict which could spark off WWIII.
Where can I read/hear about how they handled it?
I remember listening to this on the podcast. Coleman is brilliant and humble. I have a deep respect for his thinking and wish that more people would hear and take this to heart. People tripping about phenotypes.....
I’m glad TED didn’t censor this talk, even though a tiny minority of employees wanted it censored. I a, no longer a TED follower. This is an excellent presentation and TED needs more of them.
Coleman is a saint for being able to respond thoughtfully to those astronomically stupid questions.
One of the best TED talks in years. Hughes cuts through a difficult topic with clarity and candor.
Love this. It’s too bad some people walked out in this important talk.
I didn’t watch the video, I just listened to it. People stood up and walked out on this?! We are absolutely living in clown world.
I am a huge Coleman Hughes fan. He is always thoughtful and well spoken.
It says a lot about their intolerance. They are parading about arrogantly pretending they are so sensitive they cannot listen to a different pov … and really it isn’t a different pov as Coleman points out, rather it is the one that called for the end of slavery in the US and UK and the Civil Rights Movement. They show their profound ignorance and lack of appreciation for all those who have worked the benefit of everyone and not just a few.
Class is invariably a reliable proxy for disadvantage/ marginalisation! Saying what needs saying Coleman ❤
Class cuts too close to the heart of the issue for special interests to allow focus on. It threatens their profits.
@@scottanno8861 👏🏻
This sums up the debate here in USA; a well informed black man being patronised by a well meaning white bloke with a degree in saying the right thing.
Exactly.
Patronized is right 🤦🏼♀️
Absolutely! The fact that a guy came out right after he finished to offer some light push-back is ridiculous. Then when u hear about what went on behind the scenes,& TED almost not releasing this episode-it’s astonishing!
You don't watch many TED talks, do you? The same guy comes out after many talks and asks two or three questions (sometimes more), at least one of which has a flavor of light pushback. It seems his job is just to get the speakers to address the main points of debate in the area. What was undeniably cringe was the fact that some of the audience clapped at the mere asking of a pushback question, without even being interested in his answer.
@@razzle_dazzle I guess the hundred or so I've watched must be the exception 😏
Gonna watch this 1000 times just to get the view count up. Just heard it’s at risk of being suppressed. If you’re reading this TED, you all did the right thing posting this talk! Very easy to take issue with some of these things, but very important we hear them! Please promote this! These are ideas worth spreading!!
Will rewatch too, good idea
Unfortunately unless you're watching on 1000 different devices, watching the video over and over doesn't actually count for views
Make sure to use an adblocker though
Even if one disagrees with Coleman Hughes, which I do not, the ideas he discusses are absolutely worth hearing, and worthy of an honest debate.
So glad to see someone stand up on that stage and proclaim this message. Let's move beyond racism, i.e. discrimination based on a person's skin color, and move toward a society that treats all equally irrespective of their race. The modern racists want to perpetuate discrimination and prejudice based on race. This is wrong and evil no matter the reason employed for it.
Haven't listened to a TED talk in ages, due to their focus on moral preachings but thanks to All-In podcast for higlighting Coleman's TED Talk. Really appreciate the courage to stand on the side of logic.
Hear! Hear! TED is dead, sadly. I gave up on it years ago because it just became whiney opinions over ideas worth spreading. Props to All In for calling the 'staff', employees by any other name.
Chris, you need to get in the Captain's chair and steer your ship, before you're forced to go down with it.
If it were truly moral preachings, that would be one thing; but it is most often smug bs built on a false faith in a small group of self-appointed faux-experts and they musings de jour.
The fact that this even needed to be a TED talk in the first place to state the bloody obvious feels absolutely crazy.
People have been arguing over this for decades, and every single time we come back to: "don't treat anybody differently based on race".
How hard is that, really? Colour-blindness FTW.
@@muigelvaldovinos4310 What has Joe Biden got to do with this comment?
I'm glad Coleman is standing up and saying it. It's just sad that he needed to do it in the first place.
I truly don’t understand the “other” side of the argument. The side that is against “color blindness” are lost at sea
Color blindness is a great way to be blind to racism and its effects. It sounds nice, but it's silly. What next? Gender blindness? Religious blindness? Political blindness? Nationality blindness? Class blindness? Cultural blindness? Historical blindness? We're all gonna just pretend that everybody is the same and pretend as if history and environments are irrelevant to social patterns and problems today? Color blindness is as silly as color obsession. Problems don't disappear by pretending they are irrelevant when they are relevant. Scientific research shows that even infants can easily form biases based on color. And it's not like legacies of racism will just disappear if we pretend to not see color. It reminds me of people who say to ignore seeing things as left vs. right as if that's gonna stop crazy propaganda and influence from the left and right.
The point is that society isn't color blind, whether or not we consciously 'try' as individuals to be color blind. There are systemic issues in the way that our society and economy is structured and the way we educate young people, which marginalise people who aren't white. You can't dismantle these structures by simply 'being color blind'. Our legislation and, on paper, the policies of companies are already technically 'color blind' (racial equality was written into law decades ago)... but it clearly hasn't solved racism.
We need to acknowledge the imbalance of power due to race, if we're ever going to rebalance it.
The problem is that the true reality is, "color blindness but in White nations only". As in, only denying White people a will & a future in the nations they founded & built from the ground up. No one is against racial self-determination in non-White nations, it only goes one way.
I can't imagine censoring this. If you disagree, it's entirely well spoken and non-aggressive. It's literally asking to have the conversation if you disagree.
You have to be a biased totalitarian to censor this
I almost want to thank TED for it promoting this talk as all the blowback introduced me to Coleman Hughes. I don’t agree with him on everything but he is insightful and I’m learning from him. TED is a shadow of what it used to be. Ideas matter and opposing views are how we all learn.
I learned of colour-blindness about 50 years ago from my mother. She taught us that the colour of one's skin doesn't make one better or worse than the next person. It was a simple way to look at race but it took.
Me too... you just don't judge a book by its cover
End of the day, we are all ONE human race.
Contrary to what the self-proclaimed "anti-racists" would have everyone believe. While they openly, and proudly discriminate against white people...
"Simple is best."
-Occam's Razor
And then she Seig Heiled.
It's simple because it is simple. Race isn't real AND it doesn't matter, so don't pretend it's real and don't pretend it matters.
this definitely deserves 10x more viewership. The orchestra analogy is on point.
Should have asked "What's wrong with an orchestra largely of white people?"
Guess why? TED is actively suppressing it.
@@MarkStoddardexactly. The racists never consider choice and preference when looking at things through a racist lens. They see an absence of one or another race and cry foul that there must be white supremacy at play.
And it’s class based like Coleman said earlier. It’s not that minority kids don’t have access to instruments, it’s poor kids of any color that aren’t getting the investment.
when one has no facts on their side, they usually resort to suppressing opposing opinions. Thank you Coleman for standing up and speaking out.
What he says is what I was always thinking about when I thought we should be color blind. I was in the Navy for 22 years and that is the way I lived in the service. You get to meet everyone from everywhere in the service . Most people do not get that exposure, so I see how it can be hard for many to accept. I'm glad he has so thoroughly and thoughtfully put his platform together. It is all about ones character not skin color. This needs to gain traction for humanities' sake.
I would like to know why some people in the Ted organization wanted to prevent this talk from airing.
Not a good look for them
We all know why. We all know how inconvenient free speech and the open debate of ideas is for the ideologies that have infected the institutions of higher learning. We know why the leadership class is compromised.
Where did you read that some people in the Ted organization wanted to prevent it from airing?
@@kenhiett5266liberal racism. Gave us eugenics, race based chattel slavery and faux moral justification for imperialism
Cause they probably realized there were way better and more important talks that never aired either. Why is color an issue still in 2023? I thought MLK sort it out in 1960s - character
This is an excellent and measured talk. More people need to see this.
Precisely. This is why Ted's is an important player here. It gets hits by everyone. This is what frightens some people.
@@quithollerin7276TED tried to suppress this talk after they recorded it, due to pressure from extremists in their own organisation.
What a great talk! And a discussion afterwards, that only proofs Coleman Hughes's point. That example with an orchestra is exactly the case for a class policy, where less-off families and/or communities need more support.
Bravo Coleman… this is brilliant!!
I'm extremely liberal and very blue but I loved this. This is the first time I've ever listened to a full ted talk and unless I can expect this level of content, I don't plan to ever listen to more TED. This is the type of interesting content that can bring people in and bring real-honest debate. Isn't that what TED is supposed to stand for?
exactly
Welcome to being a modern conservative.
Isn't fun. You say the most, common sense things possible and people will react like you just stabbed a child. I'm not even a Republican, kind you, I'm center. But this has been the vicious cycle I and a lot of other people have been trapped in where we get gaslighted for incredibly innocuous observations.
"I don't care about someone's skin color" is something I have said since I was 9 and it is crazy how it went from normal, to something grossly offensive between 2013 and 2022, and only just now it is once again becoming a normal thing to say again. My position never f***ing changed, mind you, but I got harassed for years over it regardless.
Totally same positions as you mate. you also described it perfectly@@Impalingthorn
Sounds like you’re red pilled
Maybe it’s about time for you to no longer be “extremely liberal” or “blue” ? Because your side is the side that is suppressing free speech and promoting reverse racism (aka just racism). Also remember, modern conservatism is still technically liberalism. Another word for conservatism is “classical liberalism.” So you are still technically liberal if you were to switch, but just less extreme.
Just listened to the debate with Jamelle, and I want to say that in no other area of policy are we so willfully blind to logical sleight of hand, unscientific arguments, and sophistry. It’s great that in 2023 we’re finally able to debate some of the ideas that were considered beyond question in 2020, so everyone can see - even if only a few on the left are willing to call it out - how philosophically incoherent they are. (To name just one example, did Jamelle want to address the “effects” of racial policies, as he said? In that case, how would we distinguish between someone suffering the “effects” and someone not? Whenever that came up, he seemed to want to dance to talking about the “vectors” of inequality. Well vectors are hypothetical causes. And I propose a hypothesis that physical attractiveness and fathers in the home are just as good “vectors” in 2023. How would we decide? Oh did you want to switch back to “effects”? Great. Which effects. Etc.) first they ignored Coleman, then they laughed at him, then they fought him. Then he won.
Tough to listen to
Wish I had Coleman’s patience
I have listened to numerous Intelligence Squared/Open Debates before and typically they have an audience and take a poll before the debate and after to see how audience opinions have changed. Noticeably absent here.
My guy, the “vectors” would be things like slavery, jim crow, redlining, poor planning, the drug war, welfare cuts, outsourcing of jobs, over-financialization, legacy admissions, etc. Even if all of those vectors were addressed (some have been), the effects would continue because our economic system perpetuates inequality - money flows to the top under capitalism.
In a never ending game of monopoly, if you make someone skip their turn for the first 250 years, they’re never going to catch up unless you try to offset that disadvantage, whether through investment, colorblind policies as Coleman discussed, or affirmative action (preferably all three).
@@Michael-zr4kg agree those all exist, they're all bad. How would you tell who's suffered the worst effects of them so you don't end up giving most of the aid to upper-middle class families, or Nigerian immigrants. How would you tell when the ledgers had been made even, so you didn't perpetuate the remedial inequality one minute longer than it needed to be?
@@8020drummer apart from legislating out Racist policies, most solutions to the vectors I listed actually come down to class-based policies. Investment in infrastructure, sustainability, public health, public transit, separating school funding from municipal taxes, expanding work programs, bringing manufacturing jobs home, unionization/solidarity, and generally trying to foster a communitarian ethos at the local and eventually national level. The only race-based policy I would imagine is admissions offices and employers being allowed to use race and other characteristics (including immigrant status) as a way to increase diversity for the sake of representation, which helps address individual level biases since it’s difficult to be prejudiced against people when you encounter them regularly in an equal-footing context (coworkers/classmates instead of desk worker-janitor in the same office)
He worded every sentence perfectly 👍🏾
Well done TED. I listened to the talk at Vancouver and I was very surprised to listen to a lot of backlash around me to what sounded as a very reasonable talk that I think is needed as part of a broader conversation.
He got a standing O from the people in the audience. This talk clearly struck a cord with a lot of people, the controversy around this talk is mind boggling.
It's one thing to disagree with someone, it's another thing entirely to contemplate not even letting their views be heard.
I have to agree with you. I’m highly skeptical about his idea here, because I don’t think it’s implementable in the society we actually live in, but so what? Nothing he said was racist or harmful to hear. I’m glad I got to hear him out and contemplate on what I believe and think. I think there is incredible value in listening to ideas that you may not agree with.
It is absolutely implementable. Until America exported their culture wars to Europe we were really getting there. Most people here do not care about skin colour in the least
@@queenofsprinklesit is entirely possible. Here in the US before the Black Lives Matter (or more appropriately ‘Buy Large Mansions’) movement being pushed by the media and the political system ‘colorblindness’ was the only accepted method used by the judicial system and it is still the default way of thinking for most Americans. Now critical thinking has been shoved aside in favor of critical thought but we can return to being a nation of critical thinkers if we merely choose not to base our thinking and decisions on race, religion (or lack thereof), political party etc. of these race is the most immutable so it’s the most logical place to start. Remember that in MLK jrs speech he describes both black and white children celebrating being finally free upon achieving a meritocratic society and we can’t reach that freedom if skin color is allowed to be a factor political, judicial, educational, business or personal decisions. The only times a persons skin color should be taken into consideration should be if their race might affect their health (ie more black people have sickle cell anemia while more white people have factor v Leiden) and therefore might affect the treatment methods which might be used on them and in scientific studies in which race is a curated factor.
I found this from the All-In Podcast and Coleman did an amazing job with this talk. And one of the best parts was when they asked him the question at the end and he had a very logical answer that made a lot of sense and it should implemented that way.
I was surprised about the ending. Is there this kind of challenging discussion for other ted talks?
@@slappyfunno there isnt, I’ve never seen anything like this
Yes there is, sometimes they do ask questions at the end
i came down late to comment that this was articulate , civil , and intelligent ; and to complain about that right arrogant C*NT at the end trying to get the "right" message across.............TED has always seemed just another "progressive" propaganda site , the proof is in the pudding
Same here, found it from the All-In podcast and now subscribed to Coleman
I hope Coleman has a bright future ahead of him. Intellectually honest people like him should be leading this country.
Wow! He verbalizes well what I have been thinking for many years. Thank you Mr Hughes!
The world needs more people like this guy in it
So… you’re not one of them?
Don’t faintly wish for others to improve your world. Be part of the change you want to see. Say instead: “Let’s all be more like this guy, and let’s be vocal about it”
Something to keep in mind: TED bent on this because there were sufficient venues to make it known dropping the talk was in the works. This is why outlets like substack and even X are critical. And we are now seeing moves on the part of Canada and the EU to make even those venues (and podcasts) censored. This is a slippery, dangerous slope to embark on. And Coleman: outstanding work.
Wow, Coleman Hughes, thank you--I hope you can bring us together ❤ I come from the same family as John Brown's right hand man, John Henrie Kagi, who was killed in the raid at Harper's Ferry. I got positively teary bc this IS the original ideal of the antislavery movement--we need him.
Brilliant! Thank you Coleman. Shame on Ted for considering silencing this important speech.