Why Is TED Afraid of Coleman Hughes? | Glenn Loury, John McWhorter & Coleman Hughes | The Glenn Show
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Coleman Hughes talks with Glenn and John about TED's attempt to suppress video of his talk on colorblindness.
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4:30 John McWhorter is one of the few people in this world that can "Have they no decency, sir?" without it sounding contrived. I love it.
Agree … followed by a classic “God that gets my dander up” 😂
John clutching his pearls makes me giggle 😂
This just undermines the integrity of TED - ridiculous. Coleman is a superstar
What integrity?
TED sold out several years ago and has become the puddle into which ideas of the lowest common denominator collect for those without critical thinking skills to drink from.
I've been following Coleman since at least 2018, crazy to see the impact he's made since then.
Meh. 1 of 8 billion.
Here is the apology format I taught my son starting when he was in kindergarten:
1. I did…. ( explain the bad behavior)
2. This is wrong because… (explain why it’s wrong)
3. In the future, I will… (explain how the behavior will change)
4. Something like, “I am truly sorry, will you please forgive me?”
Adults , including those at TED, need to learn how to do apologies like those we teach to our kids.
Coleman, I’m sorry this happened to you! Thank you for speaking out about it.
Great advice for people to critically think about their mistakes
Except when you have diametrically opposed value systems neither party sees a valid step 2 hence that recipe fails...
Props to Tim Urban for speaking up about Coleman’s Ted talk - if only more people were as brave and vocal as Tim
Agreed! When I first heard Coleman tell this story and bring up Tim, I was worried he was gonna go woke on us.
Tim Urban is one of the best writers out there, and glad he’s sticking to his intellectual guns in all areas.
3 brilliant thinkers. Thank you for doing awesome work.
Did you catch McWhorters Joseph Welch reference? 4:30
"It's negatively correlated with supporting DEI policies."
In other words, a color-blind worldview threatens the DEI INDUSTRY.
At first I thought I must have heard that wrong!
Colorblindness doesn't exist. Everyone sees color.
@@Gnofg You know that Coleman's usage of "color-blindness" means treating everyone the same regardless of their skin color.
@@Gnofg Yes, everyone sees color. But some of us regard skin color as irrelevant as eye color and hair color. Shall we start hyper-fixating on those features too? Will that somehow improve society? I don't see how it would. Seems to me it would only create more animosity.
@@Daniel-yl5jl1bi6q my mother who is Asian puts it best. Everyone is a little bit prejudice. Fyi, my German grandmother was arrested in 1910 for being with my Chinese grandfather(illegal). My dad couldn’t swim in the public pools in St. Louis and when we went to get a mortgage in 1962 with 45% down the only bank that would finance us was the Bank of Harlem.
Maybe you treat everyone the same but our society doesn’t. To me you are naive.
Coleman is a lethal debater with a calm demeanor. Absolutely an American treasure.
The talk is excellent. Thanks for hanging in Coleman!
Fragility is epidemic. And corrosive.
Thank you three for your courage and conviction.
They are afraid of Coleman and frankly both you and John because you won’t bend a knee to BS. What you all promote is having the “courageous conversations” that we as a country have been demanding for at least a decade. We are all privileged to have all three of you to listen to. Thanks for what you do.
If this is what they do to Coleman, you can see why we mere mortals keep our mouths shut. Whether right or wrong about this issue, God bless you for sticking with your conscience.
Truly 3 of my favorite intellectuals!! I love how they disagree respectfully and all 3 get there points across without any insults
Thank you to all 3 here, and to The Glenn Show. I've learned so much from all of you!
The three amigos!! ... I love when these guys get together. Always a great discussion. Thank you!!
3 of my favourite people! We’re so lucky to have these 3 among us.
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite shows on CZcams.
Welcome! Keep an eye out for their full length videos.
Some people benefit from discrimination. Of course such a talk would ruffle feathers.
Answer: Because the Truth is far too dangerous to be shared with the public.
Shame on TED
Coleman Hughes is pure class and props to Tim Urban for pointing out how TED were trying to bury his excellent talk. I've got a feeling that those TED employees who complained about it are going to find themselves promoted to Head of Coffee Cup Procurement and Manager of Outdoor Seating Distribution and then find their careers mysteriously stalled.
An optimist you are.
Or maybe a fantasist.
Coleman, as always you are amazing. Your TED talk was spot on and I thoroughly enjoyed the presentation. Thank you for your candor and openness to new ways of thinking.
I work for a liberal school district. (I consider myself to be liberal and was a Democrat for 47 years until last year. Now I'm happily unaffiliated). We had a professional development meeting this week that was based on 'anti racism' and pretty much Ibram X Kandi's book. I made a statement that I believe that Kendi didn't do 'research' but was stating his opinions. I cited a podcast of Glenn's which was summarily dismissed because Glenn is just a 'podcaster' and doesn't have legitimate credentials. (This was supposed to be a safe space for all opinions). I also cited that Kendi's foundation had lost tens of millions of dollars with little research published. No one in the PD had heard about that. This ridiculousness is going on in our institutions of education. Please keep up your good work!
Cheers to you for speaking up. Many of us know it is risky in these re-education sessions to say anything the least bit critical.
Please follow up with them by distributing a 1 pager of Glenn’s credentials as none of them could produce another person of similar standing and credentials.
@@nestorbrown4718 Not by a long shot. Glenn's list of credentials would fill a book by itself. This only reinforces the maxim that heterodox thinkers are a threat to the established order and must be quashed at all costs. In that way these DEI indoctrinators are no different than Puritans burning witches at the stake. They won't allow for another POV because their kingdom would disintegrate around them as a consequence. Demonstrates the weakness of their position but whatever -- that's as old as philosophy itself.
Kendi's definition of "anti-racism" is a textbook example of circular reasoning. If I was to take Kendi seriously it's fundamentally a rehash of "fighting racism by being as racist as the racists are." IOW, to become just. like. them. To me that's comedy getting serious treatment.
Still hard for me to grasp that some in our society think “color blindness” is a bad way to operate. They want to hyper focus on race which from what I’ve seen - it causes more problems than it fixes
MLK Jr would be cancelled if he were alive today and spouting that "content of their character" stuff.
There is no money for the racial industrial complex, if there is no racism so they keep changing the definition. 100% guarantee that "racism" will not end in my lifetime no matter what happens.
Even in the debate, Bouie said along the lines of “of course you should treat other people without focusing on their race”; his arguing was a more narrowly about policy.
@@ilfautdanser9121Making a case for the other side...I don't think anyone has a problem with Dr. King's dream. The problem is that "color blindness" has been code language for "shut up, quit complaining, and love America for the great country that it is."
Here is the key difference. Dr. King's message was directed at society overall, systems, and whites who were threatened by equality. The "color blindness" message today is being directed at DEI types who see racism in all disparities.
I am sure if Coleman added two sentences to his talk that specifically chastised e.g., law enforcement and banks for not being color blind, that group would have labeled him Messiah.
John made a good point in a video some time ago, I think regarding to wokeness in college. Essentially, he described it as "white college administrators, sitting there and pissing their pants, overtaken by fear of being called racist." This is Chris in this situation. And no, he isn't a nice guy. The person who smiles while robbing you is no better than the person with a gun to your head. They knew what they were doing and thought they could get away with it because they clearly did not respect who Coleman was. Shame ful actions on the part of TED.
Doesn't this severely undermine the purported mission TED?
Do they have any credibility anymore?
I see it’s been 10 days without an answer so let me step in:
Yes
No
You guys are the best. Keep it up!
TED drinks the Kool-Aid
To put it plainly, TED did not consider this an ‘idea worth sharing’
They claim diversity but diversity of thought is never considered. Cowardice is destroying the county.
"Color blindness is racism" we are screwed
thank you - very interesting and important talk
4:34 was Dr. McWhorter watching Gettysburg before this interview?
This case annoys me because Coleman is MODERATE and MEASURED. Almost to a fault. Being offended by or afraid of him is absurd.
Just wow.
Ted embarrassed itself and let you know it's kind of a joke
“The reign of terror of this kind of ideology” - may be about the strongest condemnation I have heard John McWhorter utter to this day - and I have been reading him and listening to him for a long time … 9:55
If ever there were a voice that needs to be heard by all, that's Coleman. The people who most criticize him, won't even talk to him. They are afraid of him. He will savage them - in his moderate way. They are such cowards.
It sounds like Chris Anderson at TED was at first at least a little brave and open-minded in inviting Coleman to give a talk running counter to DEI dogma, so we should credit him that. After that he was being threatened by anti-rational DEI bullies, and wasn't brave enough to risk his position over it. In a perfect world he wouldn't have compromised with them, but that's a big ask. It was his livelihood on the line, not mine or yours.
Coleman's talk was brilliant as always, and his book is pre-ordered.
Coleman is courageous!
The question asked in the title is not answered or discussed here. And I clicked only because I was interested in such a discussion. The Hughes-TED-story I knew before.
"Reign of terror" --Exactemundo!
Thanks gentlemen. I should be shocked but I'm just disappointed with the whole situation.
John's got it right. It's a "reign of terror".
I think the answer to the monotonous question is giving everyone the benefit of a doubt.
Three thumbs up!
Here I thought TED was making a change from ideology back to rationality when I saw they allowed you to give a talk on colorblindness.
I'm so sad to be proven wrong. 😞😞😞
How far we have regressed that colorblindness is so predictably cancelled by the woke. Truly a very sad reality, and yet it can get so much worse if this mindset continues - a story told too many times by history.
It’s truly bizarre. My entire life we have been moving towards a “color blind” society but in the past few years - there is a small but very influential group that wants us to hyper focus on race. I never expected this . The last thing we want or need is for a very multi racial society to hyper focus on race
@@brianmeen2158 Colorblindness doesn't exist. Everyone sees color.
Colorblindness doesn't exist. Everyone sees color.
@@Gnofg Race does not exist in humans (a genetically determined scientific fact in case you weren't aware). Once you move from the racist mindset, then color is not much more than aesthetics and sun protection. That's what colorblindness means. We are all equally human and should be treated as such, color agnostic.
Ted Talk is afraid of differing opinions from black people haha.
I’ve always said that the people that have it the worst in this discussion are the blacks that stray from the narrative. Now I’m starting to notice more browns getting friction . Most brown people I know are not woke so this will be interesting down the road
It's hustlers/ideologues/bullies maybe - it's not "black people" per se
Coleman undercut the activists' agenda, an act of heresy that could not be allowed to stand.
Have that Ted guy on your show
I don’t think that they are “afraid” of what Coleman has to say as much as their minds are already set on their narrative and they don’t want to be confused with a different narrative that has elements of truth that contradicts their “truth.” It is as simple as that. If you suppress the truth, or at least a competing version of the truth, then you have a good chance of winning.
Losers are always changing words, meanings, intentions, person, identities, and words. I call it Stealing Reality.
TED: Ideas Worth Censoring
Perfect reframe
So telling that Coleman cannot get anyone on the other side to agree to debate him.
TED TALK TREACHERY!
TED is social engineering on a mass scale
Disgusting how tiny minority of extreme radical employees can impose on management, the vast majority of employees & the public
I stopped watching TED many years ago when they clearly turned ideological. It reminds me of Peter Boghosian’s NPR takedown of all things considered. I had the same reaction, I just gave up on NPR many years ago.
Can somebody identify the meta analysis that Coleman referred to?
Can someone tell me what SJF is?
The Open Society and it’s ENEMIES:
“Less well known [than other paradoxes] is the paradox of tolerance: Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.-In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.”
"ideas worth censoring" lmao
I have literal colour blindness. So when I saw the Ted x talk on colour blindness being recommended and the follow up controversy i was very confused.
Not sure if I should complain about some form of offence and from what side of the debate?
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
Hannah Arenat
“We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.”
Eli Wiesel
"Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice.”
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
“There is a huge difference between being tolerant and tolerating intolerance.”
(Avaan Hirsi Ali)
“I have seen great intolerance on the name of tolerance”
Samuel Taylor Coleridge
“The real point is that you cannot harbor malice toward others and then cry foul when someone displays intolerance against you. Prejudice tolerated is intolerance encouraged. Rise up in righteousness when you witness the words and deeds of hate, but only if you are willing to rise up against them all, including your own. Otherwise suffer the slings and arrows of disrespect silently.”
Harvey Fierstein
Or y'all still mad at each other? *Glenn giggles*
Three of the leading public intellectuals of our time. They give me hope that the charlatans and race hustlers and race Marxists will go the way of the Dodo bird.
NO more TED Talks for me.
It's a long time since I've seen one worth watching anyway. They're mostly terrible.
Honestly the situation reminds me of what happened with Martin Scorsese's movie 'Kundun' where the CCP didn't like the message of the movie and pressured Disney to 'shadowban' it and not promote it.
Recently highlighted in FEE's video: czcams.com/video/VZzOR3HLlNk/video.html
I both like and follow all three of these gentlemen.
Here is the issue that some have with the "color blindness" message. It is no longer being directed towards racists threatened by black equality, but to DEI types who see racism in most disparities. Here is what they are hearing from Coleman..."QUIT THIS DEI BS ASAP, shut up and love America for the great country that it is." To a certain degree, Coleman may actually be saying this.
If Coleman added just two sentences to his talk chastising, for instance, law enforcement and banks for not being "color blind," he would have been their hero, a Messiah even.
That said, I'm glad that Coleman's TED Talk is getting the views it deserves.
The interesting thing about all this is not so much the complaining minority of people, but that those in leadership, like Chris Anderson, cower in fear from these wokies.
Can’t have anyone thinking for themselves off the plantation.
Wake up! Clearly he is not nice. He is shallow and civil…
I don't understand. I thought TED was for open ideas.
90% of TED Talks are a joke. I think Huges should have declined to speak there.
You just actually made the best argument for why it was important that he DID do the talk.
They don’t want diversity of thought
Black at Ted 😂 Oy vey…
Blacked at TED ;)
TED is owned by a nonprofit, nonpartisan foundation. Intolerance and suppression of good ideas in the name of politics strikes me as kryptonite to the TED brand. I wonder if the TED board has been adequately vetted on this issue.
TED; The End of Debate
You can be a nice guy and still be a coward.
Shame on TED for this. Coleman only comes out ahead for 1.) being the bigger person, and 2.) getting more attention on this issue, and 3.) being proven this issue obviously needed to be spread and acknowledged.
Gee whiz, ain't the game of "Social Engineering so much fun?
Black at TED group shouldn't even exist if there are no other special groups at TED.
.032% holding the TED hostage
Coleman looks like he is John’s son!
JM " shows the reign of terror of the ideology"
The way that Ted behaved throughout this whole ordeal is just disgusting. I will not be watching their cnn-tier media anymore. Color blindness is a great policy for race relations. The problem is that it threatens the ideological constructs that profit off of poor race relations.
Cowardice
This event underscores the unspoken fact that TED has been an intellectually empty echo chamber for nearly ten years.
Simply put, dont talk to TED. Talk about TED but dont talk to TED.
Actually I watched Coleman's that TED talk and it was excellent and there should no controversies that can arise from the talk unless some uneducated brain dead people were in the audience. Race has poisoned our society in general to a level of no return. I am a person of color and never appreciated to be labeled as ingredient of diversity. What a idiotic concept of diversity by race. There is only one race, the human race. Keep up the great work. It is a different age now, TED is not the only platform to make your point. Trash the TED.
This is censorship and small-minded. Plain and simple.
Coleman having to defend himself on this is utterly insane and a sign of how much progress has been undone by the left’s hyper-fixation on race for the last 5 years or so.
TED is DED.
But TED has had topics more controversial than color blindness
As long as those ideas are woke and progressive then they will not be censored.
TED needs give Coleman a public apology!
Always a great idea to purposely segregate yourself from your co-workers based on skin tone.
Colour blindness is the best way to go!
DEI How much research does it take to admit that something that has been pushed for six decades is inefective in producing the purported result? Whoever is pushing against changing this is benefiting monetarily from it. I'm very dissapointed with TED.
For some, making race a constant issue is a business.
In a utopian America, color blindness would be ideal. However, this has never been a color-blind society. It never will be. America's racial and ethnic diversity is its strength and should be acknowledged and celebrated. Every color should be acknowledged and addressed in this multifaced American gumbo. Color blindness overlooks the distinct differences, that season the gumbo. It claims that racial and ethnic considerations impede equality. The opposite is true. To see color is to see how we can collectively employ diverse experiences and talents to create inclusive equity for all. Minority population groups are easily marginalized in a majoritarian electoral society. Class, ability, color sexual orientation, gender, and immigration status should all be a consideration in public policy.
Interpersonally, humans acknowledge color all the time, but most will not admit it for fear of being labeled racist. Color blindness is racist because it fails to acknowledge the obvious truths that all men have been created equal but sure as hell do grow up in equally adequately nurturing environments and sure as hell have not all been treated equally as Coleman Hughes found it from TED.