The Political Stakes Of Trump's First Trial | FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast

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  • Monday marked the start of the first-ever criminal trial of a former president. The case - one of potentially four trials facing former President Donald Trump - revolves around alleged hush money payments made to Stormy Daniels to try to conceal damaging information during the 2016 election. In this installment of the 538 Politics podcast, the crew looks at the political stakes of the case and how they compare to Trump's other legal liability. They also discuss how Republicans are positioning themselves on Arizona's unpopular 1864-era abortion ban and debate whether the latest campaign fundraising data actually says anything about the competitiveness of the presidential candidates.
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Komentáře • 66

  • @fivethirtyeight
    @fivethirtyeight  Před 3 dny

    Download the full audio podcast episode:
    podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fivethirtyeight-politics/id1077418457?mt=2

  • @aubrey9048
    @aubrey9048 Před 17 dny +27

    it's very cool to see former regulars like Amelia making guest appearances like this

  • @CB38096
    @CB38096 Před 17 dny +5

    Just like they used to chant for Hilary!🥰🤣
    LOCK HIM UP!
    LOCK HIM UP!
    LOCK HIM UP!

  • @RichardJoJoyce
    @RichardJoJoyce Před 16 dny +3

    Welcome back, Amelia!

  • @ccbowers
    @ccbowers Před 16 dny +3

    It seems like people are assuming illegal is worse than unethical (them not being mutually exclusive aside), I have the opposite preference. Unethical behavior is a much bigger problem for people in positions of power.

  • @MarilenaVazquez
    @MarilenaVazquez Před 17 dny +2

    Love Five Thirty Eight and this story. I hope Trump goes straight to jail. Imagine if any of us did this, we would be in jail today. What goes around comes around.

  • @ajschramm3573
    @ajschramm3573 Před 16 dny +2

    Love seeing Amelia make a comeback!

  • @DrewDienno
    @DrewDienno Před 14 dny

    No matter how this or any trial shakes out, he has his numbers set in firm concrete. No moving that voter block

  • @user-kh6es2cw9l
    @user-kh6es2cw9l Před 17 dny +5

    Love your podcast. Thank you for postings ❤❤.

  • @chrishintz1077
    @chrishintz1077 Před 15 dny +1

    They hoisted roe onto their own petard. So lovely to see the inevitable blowback. The 50 year plan to overturn roe has unleashed a dragon they can’t control. It’s glorious.

  • @nroose
    @nroose Před 15 dny +1

    Seems like you left out the whole prison thing. Conviction would have one effect. And that may not be big. But prison would likely have another effect, and I would think a bigger effect. And that against the backdrop of losing in the supreme court on immunity and maybe having some properties seized. Seems like it could all together have a significant effect.

  • @refuge42
    @refuge42 Před 10 dny

    I am 30 minutes into this podcast and I have yet to hear the word insurrection, I will Wade through the rest of it but be very disappointed if they manage to ignore the obvious.😮

  • @genevieveweston671
    @genevieveweston671 Před 17 dny +3

    An abortion initiative on the ballot may bring young people to the polls who are not excited about either main party presidential candidate

  • @arun279
    @arun279 Před 17 dny

    7:11 but which small part, if it moves a small part of independent voters in California it won’t matter electorally

    • @spike9653
      @spike9653 Před 16 dny +2

      maybe not for presidential, but these things still matter for houses and senate races for example (moreso house races for your California example). If sufficient numbers of independents in California shift based on this, that could determine the size and strength of a republican house majority which as we have seen this term can matter massively with regards to shutdowns debt ceilings and speaker removals

  • @knrranch1910
    @knrranch1910 Před 17 dny +5

    What matters is that the Trump trials have begun and they will continue for years.

    • @YoshiYosheda
      @YoshiYosheda Před 3 dny

      Not if his found guilty in his current trial.

  • @Icarys_
    @Icarys_ Před 17 dny +1

    I just want to say Geoffrey’s monstera has made me so jealous. That thing is thriving.

  • @realCyng
    @realCyng Před 16 dny +1

    I want to know who thought the direct election of prosecutors was a good idea.

    • @daraorourke5798
      @daraorourke5798 Před 16 dny

      Irish here. That does seem a little odd. At least you don't elect the jurors!

  • @jamesodonoghue
    @jamesodonoghue Před 16 dny +1

    When did TJ Miller become a political pundit?

  • @neilhales4693
    @neilhales4693 Před 17 dny

    And we wouldn't need abortion laws either!

  • @jemimaunicorn6446
    @jemimaunicorn6446 Před 17 dny

    The turnout issue you are missing is young voters with Gaza as a big issue. I suspect some would stay at home in protest but abortion on the ballot will bring them out. The key question is how many of them are there.

    • @RobRoss
      @RobRoss Před 17 dny +2

      Hopefully they realize that “Gaza”, although an important issue, is not as immediately relevant to their lives the way the abortion issue is.

    • @dionbaillargeon4899
      @dionbaillargeon4899 Před 17 dny +6

      Young voters staying home over Gaza and allowing Trump, Netanyahu's best ally, become president would be the most idiotic move since they stayed home in 2016 and allowed Roe vs Wade be overturned.

  • @jeanneiisydw6596
    @jeanneiisydw6596 Před 17 dny

    People. who arn't weighing their options this early in the game are too shallow to vote. Not

  • @markaisenberg6641
    @markaisenberg6641 Před 16 dny

    All. They. Talk about. Is. Abortion. Sigh.

  • @1848revolt
    @1848revolt Před 17 dny +6

    Anyone with a brain can see this is a political hit job.

    • @Alexis-lt3zy
      @Alexis-lt3zy Před 17 dny +4

      Well, let's hope the 12 jurors have brains!

    • @1848revolt
      @1848revolt Před 17 dny +3

      @@Alexis-lt3zy yeah I don't like Trump but this is ridiculous.

    • @Alexis-lt3zy
      @Alexis-lt3zy Před 17 dny

      @@1848revolt do you think there is ever a legitimate way to prosecute a political official? Would it be proper for prosecutors to go after Biden if he potentially committed crimes?

    • @ckq
      @ckq Před 17 dny +5

      Bot lmao

    • @1848revolt
      @1848revolt Před 17 dny +3

      @@ckqso if anyone says something you don't like it's a bot. Gotcha.