How Were Tanks Used in the Spanish Civil War?
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The Spanish Civil War (1936-1939) was fought between the First and Second World Wars and served as an interesting mid-point for tank combat during which German, French, Soviet and Italian designs like the Pz-1, Renault FT, T-26, BT-5 and CV-33 met on the battlefields of Spain. In this video I'll take an in depth look at them here.
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10:20 "dual 800mm machineguns"
Jesus Christ, I'm surprised there was anything left of Spain after that. I guess that explains all those mountains and valleys.
Is this eve online?
lol yerp
800mm machine gun ... i call HAX! 800mm italian "meme handgesture" derp gun it is then.
Easy to understand the Nationalist Victory, they have MG more powerfull than a battleship
Two Gustav in an italian tankette ?
800mm machinegun? doubtful
It actually had 2 6.5 mm machine guns...not sure where he hot 800 mm...lol
@@rkitchen1967 I looked it up, the standard ammo is 8mm: the single FIAT mod.14 6.5 mm (0.31 in) machine-gun was later replaced by twin-mount FIAT mod.34s or Breda mod.38s 8 mm.
@@rkitchen1967 - wikipedia says 1x 6.5mm ( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L3/33 )
TheOnlyRealGMan looks like the twin 8mm was in the CV-35 (or L3/35), and the Nationalists received a mix of L3/33s and L3/35s.
800mm Machine gun. Isn't that what the Germans were going for with the Karl Gerat superhowitzers?
"Duel 800mm Machine Guns"
*_Now this is an Avengers level threat_*
Dual. Unless they're dueling.
The czar tank like this idea czar tank wants a date of production or after some stuff stalinistic gulag.
@@Akren905 U meant the Tzar bruh?
@@itsalmostfun8567 russian get him lol 🇺🇦 jks but yes a few ways its spelt It seems
That's bigger than a Yamato cannon!!!
Everyone knows that you send two panzer division volunteers.
lmao hoi4 reference
It's a mandatory obligation for the other fascist nations to Nationalist Spain
Same goes to the Republicans but with the Soviets
Unless the French decided to join in thnx to the new DLC
@Pep armoured, of course
I tried it, you are right. The Spanish republicans got tore up.
I send 3 😳
So this channel is about Medieval England, Frisians, Everything Nederlande, the Spanish Civil War and Weimar Germany. Did I get it all?
That's why I'm subscribed to this channel
That's pretty much it yeah I would say so ;)
@@historywithhilbert146 I gotta say I genuinely like this style, taking few topics, and making multiple videos on them (either you do it on purpose or not). You pretty much always provide content that were not taken care of on youtube, I love it.
@Jason Baird take your pills
Mark Naughton 😂😂😂
The CV-33 had 800mm guns? Amazing....
I know right ;)
*Laughs in Italian quality*
No way
The guns from Super Mario 3.
800 mm machine guns???
Oh man that definitely should've been 8 ;)
Need to pierce stalinium some how....
8.00mm machine gun, there fixed it 😀
Italians truly were the most advanced tank designers of their time.
@@meatusbeatus5548 yep. They had the mouse in action years before germany had prototypes of the maus
What Hitler and Mussolini really tested was air power.
A Davis no, p o w e r e d a i r
f RP no?
800 mm.
NOW, THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE
800mm MG sounds like a Warhammer 40k space weapon
Then there is a bt-5 that goes 65mph pretty dam fast
(spoes to be kph)
Still not enough for greece.
Those 800mm mg's can carry one 7100KG round, so it was slow firing, but very effective against a T26.
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Pz is short for panzer not the whole word, normally panzerkampfwagen is actually shortened to PzKpf
also Panzerkampfwagon does not mean tank it means Armored Car.
@@goddessoflesbians1153 it's wagen not wagon
@@goddessoflesbians1153 More accurate would be "Armoured Fighting Vehicle" imho
@@goddessoflesbians1153 im german and it means Panzer = tank, kampf = combat, wagen = vehicle. Its Tank-Combat-Vehicle... so just Tank. Not Armored Car. Panzerkampfwagen 5 was a freakin Panther afterall, which by no standart is an armored car
As a former Tanker, I have to say this one video can fill in many holes of the imagination on what spurred the evolution of tank designs leading up to WW II. It includes partitioning vis-a-vis German/Soviet and English/French doctrine, and what may serve as a missing link, evolution-wise as to the hows and whys main battle tanks and a plethora of other armored units sprang out in WW II. Thanks!
10:13 800mm machine guns would make naval cannons swoon, I assume it's just 8 mm? 12.7mm are .50cals
You can't penetrate stalinium without a gun bigger than ur tank.
Spain was a testing ground: so air tactics were tested out - are bombers better in close support or strategically? Are tanks only infantry support? There was no worked out doctrine yet on what became the axis side - yet.
10:58
Slaps roof of cv 33
Salesman: “This baby is perfect for your barbecue needs.
Father “Should we be worried if the kids start to play with it?
Salesman: “don’t worry we will give you a machine gun to come with it to get your kids out of that
Father: “I’LL TAKE IT!”
"got rid of out of the army"
That's a nice way of saying brutally executed
You know, as based and redpilled people do
CSelH, i found that funny too. When will Westerners stop glossing over the atrocities commited by communists? Its still part of the mainstream culture to excuse them and glorify their bullshit, im getting pretty sick of it. Fascism and communism were both disgusting (and fascism is simply corporation backed socialism linked with nationalism). Capitalism linked with practically any other political ideology that limits the power of big business is the only decent way for civilizations to exist. Its so sad that alot of English speaking people dont understand this but i guess it shows the poor level of education in the west now.
To be fair a decent portion of purged officers were put in the gulags and eventually reinstated when Stalin realized Germany was kicking his ass
Except that didn't happen? It was just disbanded
Nein
Spanish Civil War?
Weird way to say
World War II : pre-alpha test
patch 0.1936
Before the bottles, they used clay jugs filled with petrol or similar flammable liquid.
The idea came from observations made during the Italian invasion of Abyssinia, where Ethiopian forces used clay jugs filled with a flammable liquid against Italian Tankettes. When the jug smashed, soaking the tankette, a flaming stick was thrown to ignite it.
Spaniards were most likely the first to use molotovs, but Finns named them, used them to even greater effect (so much so that later tank models were designed to reduce damage taken from incendiary bottles) and made them part of popular history.
Actually Germans develloped a bullet for the pz1 that was able to pen the t26 at close ranges
true
From the side tho, not the front
Trure but the PZ1 could also be penetrated by AP rifle rounds
Yeah it was the 0.8metre machine gun bullet from the CV33
Tanks Hilbert!
I see what you did there xD
Great video as always. Maybe some videos about rifles, carbines and SMG's of Spanish civil war ?
God please
I know even less about the small arms than the tanks but probably will have more Spanish Civil War content.
History With Hilbert you should consider looking into the foreign aid from other nations via weapons, money, volunteers etc. Many people supported both sides with the Nationalists having support from Italy, Portugal, Germany and even an Irish volunteer force.
es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anexo:Armamento_port%C3%A1til_utilizado_durante_la_guerra_civil_espa%C3%B1ola
It is in spanish, obviously, but here there are a list of all the weapons used by both armies during the war.
8mm, not 800mm lol
Spanish civil war exist.
Germany and Italy: imma bout to end this whole nations career.
Ignoring the intervention on the republican side.
@@jace5435 I mean, Italy and Germany DID ruin Spain's career by helping a fascist nationalist dictatorship come into power.
@Furry Destroyer He did betray the fascists yet I don't think he was a monarchist either. One his side there were monarchist factions like the Alfonsists and Carlists yet he betrayed them too by making himself dictator instead of handing the power to any of the king candidates. When after his death the power was given to king Juan Carlos it only happened because Franco's preferred candidate to inherit the regime (Carrero Blanco) had been assasinated a few years earlier.
@@TheBlackpanzer1 I find Franco to be an interesting character. He was a strong anti-communist, but he also did not want anything to do with Hitler and his ambitions. Having declared himself a "fascist" and accepted aid from both Mussolini and Hitler, he had placed himself and his nation in a precarious position. They were in danger of being swept up by the Nazi regime and Hitler put quite a bit of pressure on him to allow German troops free access through Spain. But Franco played off Hitler's demands through a series of negotiations and eventually told him no unless certain conditions were met that he knew the Germans either could not or would not agree to. He successfully kept Spain out of WWII without provoking either an Allied or Axis invasion. Love him or hate him, you have to admit, he was a pretty effective politician.
mean whiLe they ignored the vaLkyrie system.shit they are confusing.......by:khriegsss.
Two questions: firstly, did you do all the tank drawings? They were very nicely done. Secondly, is there a photo of the CV tankette with a flamethrower which the drawing at 10:47 is based on? I have only seen flamethrower CV's like the one at 20:21 , with a trailer for the flammable material.
Overall, a great video; however, I think you could have benefited from truncating the sentences you put on the screen as long sentences can be distracting.
Edit: aha I heard your credit to the artist just now.
"They found they could light wine bottles on fire and throw them at the T26 tanks". How about saying petrol bombs? Or Molotov cocktails? You make it sound like the wine was flammable
Depends on how cheap and nasty the wine is.
@@lunadevass5561 You need around 40% alcohol for flammability. Wine literally can't get that strong without fortification. The sheer alcohol strength kills the yeast at around 15%. You need to distill to get stronger drink. Of course, it could be nasty brandy (distilled wine).
The spaniards invented the modern "Molotov" cocktail. In July of 1831 the lieutenant Manuel José Domínguez used inflammable bombs to sink a smugglers' ship in the coast of Motril (Granada), the name would be Domínguez cocktail. You can read the press release in the newspaper library of La Gaceta de Madrid.
@@paranoidrodent You haven't tried much cheap Spanish plonk, have you? You'd call it "vodka", except you can't taste the potato
@@Thrashgu Strictly, the Finns invented the Molotov Cocktail in the Winter War, although it certainly wasn't the first use of the idea, but they should get credit for the specific name
History with Hilbert posting about tanks a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you a most proper, well presented and informative presentation. Do keep up the good work
My grandfather fought in the civil war and drove a panzer 1. He was trained and was part of one of the battalions commanded by Wilhelm Josef Ritter von Thoma.
He had a very hard life during his youth due to the war, he was a loving and kind guy and a real badass
hilbert: wot is trying to create the most accurate tanks
background video: *tank comes flying out of a dune*
I love how knowledge can come together. I recently watched Tank Chat, hosted by the wonderful David John Fletcher MBE, and he taught me that the tank at 1:50 in this video is a Mark 1, due to the tail assembly. The wooden framework on top was designed to deflect grenades, and were only ever fitted to C Company! Fun the way things come together sometimes.
The cv-33 had an 800mm machine gun? Surely not. The German schwere Gustav railway gun had an 80cm (I.e. 800mm) calibre. Did you maybe mean 8 or 18mm?
I love to imagine the Tank fielding a dual Schwerer Gustav Railway gun as a light anti infantry weapon.
Btw not all tanks in World of Tanks are historical ( google: wot fictional tanks)
@
History With Hilbert most of this fictional tanks are just prototype tanks (google: wot tech tree without prototypes)
Imagine having health bars
Sky Boy war thunder gang
@@ahappynigerian imagine repairing a track without leaving the tank in 20 seconds
Historical as unicorns
Ah yes, the classic 800mm machine guns of the CV-33
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
Great documentary. Tanks a lot
Gotta grind that army experience, keep the civil war going for as long as possible
CZcams: “69 likes”
Me: *noice*
Here in my City (Castellón) Nazis dropped many bombs, there's a museum in a bunker in the center of the city which explains that and also shows the maps where the bombs were dropped.
Someone talking about Spain, that’s the first
Brilliant video of a very unknown subject on youtube of interwar armour. Superb
10:23 800mm? That is a very big gun. Howitzers are like 150-152mm, this is 800? I think it was 8.00mms.
very nice video, good job
just subscribed :D
Good video didn’t know anything about the tank warfare in that war.
Un saludo a mis amigos angloparlantes desde España🇪🇸 jaja.
Tuve que usar los subtitulos para enterarme de lo que dice el vídeo.
Jajajajaja a mí me encanta como dicen los nombres españoles y el hecho de que Coruña se llame Corunna xD
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BT-5 could hit 65 mph if the tracks were taken off, the tank could be driven with or without the tracks. The driver even had a steering wheel if they were to switch it from offroad to on-road.
Nice video and great spanish, italian and german pronunciation.
Good video! Greetings from Spain :D
Hi in the minute 5:20 appears a map where is a city called Valladolid not valadolid, also congratulations for your great work in this video.
I heard 800mm dual machine gun and had to comment, but i see many others already have. I think this was done on purpose so you could get a lot of comments on this video. Pretty genius actually!
11:55 the appropriate abbreviation for Panzerkampfwagen is PzKpfw, Pz just stands for Panzer which means amour or in that context armoured
Many tanks for sharing this. The CV33 flamethrower tank sounds grim, and probably better used if one has difficulty starting a barbecue. As for the instance of Nationalist soldiers setting bottles of wine alight and throwing those at tanks, I guess that was an early version of the Molotov cocktail, although it sounds like a waste of good wine.
10:12 800 mm mg's wow. Nazi germany was developing the Gustav with 800 mm cannon and italians allready had 800 mm "dual" mg. Every day you learn something new.
You could do a video about Joaquin Garcia Morato, one of the best combat pilots in the civil war and founder of the “ala 11”
You have great pronunciation in spanish. Congrats, great video btw
Muchas gracias ;)
No, his pronunciation is pretty weak.
Italian tankettes with 315' inch guns, and machine guns at that. Now that's impressive.
Where do you get your Informations about These themes and which Programm do you use for your Videos?
Muy buen video🙏🏽
9:40 That flag it's the correct one for the current democratic period, minus the crown. The nationalits used one similiar with an imperial eagle behind the shield.
The eagle was a reference from a Isabel of Castile family flag, best monarch Spain ever had
I was wondering which languages do you actually speak ?? Because I'm French, studying English and Spanish, and I'm pretty impressed by your pronunciation in French and Spanish!!
Also thanks a lot for you videos, it helps a lot !
Fascinating! Always interested in this conflict. It struck me as a "Proxy war" like the US fought throughout the last have of the 20th century
Marvel villains design huge devices to destroy earth
Some Italian designer after building a tank with 800mm gun : Signature look of superiority
There aren't any 800mm machine guns (so far). The standard German rifle round of the time was 7.92mm, often called 8mm. *However* the Germans did actually make an 800mm cannon and used it a couple of times during World War II. Just setting it up required many days and thousands of men, and the gun captain was a general. It would have been more than enough to blast the Brits out of Gibraltar, but Francisco Franco decided he would rather pass on another war. After Hitler's one and only face-to-face meeting with Franco, the Fuhrer said he'd rather have several teeth extracted than do that again.
BTW, I was actually in Spain in 1975 when Franco finally died, having outlived Adolf and Benito by thirty years.
You missed the cv33 with the auto firing 20mm in a breda turret.C.C.I Tipo 37
okay that's cursed please remove this comment
and here is me thinking the Panzer 1 with the 20mm was cursed
@@Cheezymuffin. heheheh My fave is the one in war thunder that's just a solothurn 20mm rifle strapped inside a cv33
0:05 what about the Polish-Soviet War and the Hungarian-Romanian war?
*Western Europe* ;)
Oh yeah, and that little known conflict people call the *RUSSIAN REVOLUTION* No biggie.
@justin robben that wouldn't have really been between WW1 and WW2 though
@@Zestyclose-Big3127 it lasted till 1922, so it actually was between the wars
justin robben and the Japanese didn't abandon all of Siberia until 1925
Great video! But the second flag used in 1:24 is in fact the flag of the First Spanish Republic, not the monarchist/fascist’s flag.
Hoi 4
(Send volunteer Spain to panzers while playing Germany) then spearhead on spanish "MOUNTAINS" lol
And the panzers just cut through fortified dug in troops in hills and mountrains like it was made of freaking butter. Germany OP.
@@RuiRuichi Not really surprising in HoI4. The German Leichtedivisions have enough Armour and Hardness to more or less disregard Republican militia with no Piercing or Hard Attack worth speaking of. It's not terribly historical, since IRL very few tanks were involved in the entire war (probably less on both sides, during the whole war than you squeeze into those 2 Divs as Germany), but if you want historical accuracy, you don't play an explicitly "what-if" game like HoI4, I suppose
"dual 800 mm machineguns"
2 fucking Schwerer Gustav on a cv 33
Damn man, you’re totally nailing all the accents!
Thank you Good video:) God Bless
I think he said 800mm just to set people off! Job done haha
I wonder what type of tank and tankette appeared at the end of Hemingway's "For Whom The Bell Tolls". I haven't read it in years. Any ideas?
My grandfather (RIP) ended up fighting for the nationalist faction. One day they were trapped in a trench. The radio was not working and the trench was very crowded and messy. He decided to jump out of the trench and look for help from nearby German tanks. As he was sprinting away, bullets were sizzling around his feet. (He described it as thoughtless and fearless act.) He found the tanks and somehow managed to communicate with the German official in charge. He run leading the way back to the battlefield followed by a group of tanks. One tank (probably Pz-1 Breda) shot just once and the republicans got scared and surrendered waving a white flag. My grandfather was only 17 back then. He became an official a few months after that.
I don't know if the story is 100% true, since he told it me more than 70 years after the war.
Thank you for the videos Hilbert!
Really interesting to read - incredible if it is true indeed! Thanks for sharing!
Jorge CP that makes no sense
so your grandpa was a fascist fighting alongside nazis after a coup against an internationally recognized democratic government. bravo! pffff
@@piloul3538 Bear in mind that, as Hilbert has well described elsewhere, those on what we call the fascist side were not *all* fascists! Or even that right wing. If you don't get that, please watch the other videos.
Also, 17 year-olds aren't always fully cognisant of the whole story of their current politics, *particularly* during a time of war. They will often (almost always) just follow their parents' or even their friends' lead.
My sister's father-in-law (she's British, her husband of 45 years, and still going strong, is German) was Austrian, he was conscripted during the war. Though his politics were right of centre, he wasn't a Nazi and he sure as hell didn't want to fight for them. But given the option of joining up or being shot - and quite possibly having his family suffer as a result - he joined the army. He was also glad to have been captured by the Brits in N Africa because he knew he'd get better treatment than he got from his own officers; and he did.
He was in fact delighted that his only son - his only _child_ - married a Brit rather than an Austrian or German. He'd gone to live in Bavaria after WWII with his Sudeten-German-Czech wife who'd been a member of the Czech resistance against both Nazis & Communists and had been tortured for her actions.
I hope you now see that judging someone when there is such a chasm of time and space between you and the one you're disrespectful of is not only unnecessary, it is ill-considered and your conclusions, whilst they may _possibly_ be true, are skewed by your own emotions. Do you honestly think that a 17 yr-old, *pre-WWII* and living in a country where, because of the nature of war, was only hearing propaganda, not any sort of truth, can carry some sort of psychic ability to see how things would turn out?
If the answer is yes, I suggest you take up another academic interest.
@@falangemexicana8554 Spanish civil war is one of the events in the 20th century where the bad guys won.
7:58 - 65 mph, really ?! Thats a fastest tank in the world. Real maximum speed is 65 km/s, over 40 mph.
Wow I bet! 65km per SECOND!?!? that definitely is over 40 mph
65 km/s, damn didn't know the BT-5 could travel at mach 2
Failed video+Failed critique=🚾
@@georgeatallah1128 Elaborate, Why this is a failed video and critique to you?
Chaffee cough Bulldog cough cough
8:00 That‘ll be 65 kph, not mph. Even the BT-5 can‘t dream of going that fast. No tracked tank can.
*Takes the tracks off*
@@501ststormtrooper9 That was actually a feature of the BT-5. Rr the BT-7, one of them.
*Laughs in Race car designer making a tank*
@@toadtexas oh God your cringe 😬
Mate I was speaking the truth
Oh just FYI the Germans did use Wolfram AP MG rounds in the Panzer 1s later in the war they could kill a T-26 or a BT5 not at a Great range but they could I was told no more the yards 350 yards if they could get that close before the 45mm armed Russian tanks could fireband Hit! But the Crews were better in both Italian an German for the most part. Hope this was useful God Bless.
geeze, i cant imagine using the cramped interior of a schneider ca1 as a troop carrier.
A 20 min video on Tanks in a war?! I commend you my friend!
Try lindybeige for 40 mins plus
So the L3 (or CV33) had twin, fully automatic Schwerer Gustav guns?
Thanks for do the tanks of the Spanish civil war 😊😊😊
Panzerkampfwagen isnt just a fancy word for tank
It stands for Armored Fighting Vehicle
Means not stands
800mm - this is what happen when a for profit company creates the script and animation, but did not try to hire someone with basic military knowledge, or diligence.
800mm dual machine gun.
As if someone put a larger gun than battleship that can pen tank is as same as bringing a Tsar Bomba to a swordfight.
I am roumanian and for me your accent of that mulțumesc frumos is quite funny , I LIKE IT !
when you need huge naval arty but you need a poopton of shells use one cv33
I love this video👍
10:23, u mean 8 mm mashine guns? Would be Nice to have a tanket with naval guns superior to the Yamato, even then the Italians might accidentally kill somebody.
the Serie II in 1936, had twin 7,92 mm (0.31 in) mount.
If Stalin don't Purged so early then the outcome might be different
Aren’t IFVs basically landships? With more seating
A tank that goes over 100 km/h and a 800mm machine gun? I wonder which universe that war was lol.
The 2235 war of the cookie
Hoping for at least a mention of cnt fais armored trucks
The squirmish of Fuentes de Ebro took place in October 1937, not 1938.
That wee Italian fartbox could've knocked out the Tirpitz with its 800mm machine guns, wow!
Hey Herbert you forgot abought the irish war of independence, that was interesting for showing the failings of slow tanks
Heinz Guderian was a adviser in the "sino russian war 1929" if you want too know the origin of the blitzkrieg start there.
concerning the tank battles you have forgotten the antitank guns: the 40mm Bofors on the communist side and especiallly the 37mm Pak 35 on the nationalist side. In particular it was the first time when the infamous 8,8cm anti aircraft gun was used by the Germans in its anti-tank role.