The true story of how Bots invaded Rocket League
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- čas přidán 17. 02. 2023
- This is the full story of how Rocket League bots invaded the ranked system and changed the game forever. A Rocket League documentary of how Rocket League bots came to reach the skill level they are now and how they eventually started being used in ranked.
Thank you to everyone involved that made this video possible!
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Rocket League was once considered a hacker free game. However, after 7 years, that reputation changed completely. Someone figured out a way to hack their way up to Grand Champion without even playing the game. How is this possible? Thanks to a machine learning bot called Nexto, made by Rolv and the RLBot community, Grand Champion bots are now a thing. However, it was only a matter of time after they released that Nexto would be used for bad.
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Thanks to Epic Games and Psyonix for the creator code.
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A huge thank you to everyone who made this project possible
500k lets go man
Awesome you are soon going to be known of by nearly all the comunity
Thank you so much for the content keep it up bro
As a person who loves to play dropshot as a gold i always play against champs and diamonds im wishing a hard reset comes soon.
@@jeremythomas1081 they will be smurfs again
This entire bot thing was one of the craziest things to happen in rocket league so far
And I didn't even notice a difference because I didn't watch CZcams
Correction, THE craziest thing to ever happen.
Yeah, but console players are going “wait, what are you guys talking about?”
@@gamerandcontroller9129 we know exactly what these guys are talking about
@@christiantaylor1495 or frequent reddit
These documentaries are always straight up quality
Keep up the good work my dude
In my opinion they should keep making even better Rocket League bots, but not publicaly give it to random humans to use. The better Rocket League bots could be used in rlsc to compete against the best RL players in the world, so we can see can they beat the best RL players in the world and become the new world champions in the world in RL.
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@@jout738 That's not how it would work generally; in all cases we've seen where bots start to surpass human capability, they don't go head to head. I think there would be a parallel competition for bots exclusively considering once the bots have reached a certain level, humans will never beat them again.
@@kongoll pretty soon, bots are going to take over the world 🤖🌎
@@jout738 they are doing this (or trying to)
Wayton doesn’t upload too much but when he does 😈 the camera angles go hard
how did you reply a day ago when this was posted 45 minutes ago? is this just only me
or the video giving me some vibes
@@enrique593 it was premiered so i think he commented then
@@enrique593I’m a bot, we are not just in rocket league
Your production quality is unmatched in the RL scene. This is like a short movie!
It’s not unmatched. You forgot about sunless
@@kingsofspencer Sunless does produce some serious high quality content, but wayton has been continuously stepping up his game. I consider his content to be of higher quality.
Im the 100 like on this comment xd
Well done on Liking The Thing
There are many RL content creators, but Wayton's production quality and story telling is just another level 👏
Well done on Liking The Thing
i cannot thank you enough for making videos with this amount of work put into them. great research, great storytelling and executed just great as well.
This is lowkey one of the best videos I’ve ever watched in my entire life…
The editing feels as good as movie and the way you tell the story is unmatched.
Great job man.
That’s just sad. And if it’s one of the best videos you ever saw how is that low key?
Your production quality is remarkable and is quite reminiscent of LEMMINOs content in terms of research and narration. The way you’ve merged this cinematic and professional documentary style commentary content with the complexities and depth that comes with a topic as unique as Rocket League is genuinely amazing and I’m glad that you’ve found such success with it. Keep it up!!
waytons ability to turn a video game into a full documentary is crazy. Keep up the great work.
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Well done on Liking The Thing
The thing is despite most people coming together to avoid something like this again there is definitely gonna be someone who is developing and releasing a much higher level bot with harder to detect movements. It probably already exists and is just not publicly spread yet
Ai randomisation is not hard to include. Or even hard code some noise or bad decisions
@@teo2157 Oh, but it is. Neural networks are black boxes, so you can't tweak them directly. You'd have to find a way to do work at the output and that's tricky because you haven't done the feature extraction yourself. In any case, statistical analysis (if RL develops one) of bot gameplay against human gameplay is going to detect it easily and, while it isn't practical to run it on all players/matches all of the time, it would be trivial to do so upon report. The only way around that is to train the model on a corpus of human gameplay and rewarding it not for winning, but for closely matching human play. This is a completely different setup and would require an absolutely humongous corpus of real matches, which doesn't and likely won't ever (without RL's cooperation) exist.
@@paulie-g
Perfectly valid points, but i still think we have methods to introduce randomness.
AI researchers have been experimenting with various techniques to introduce randomness or errors into AI models to make them more robust and adaptable to different situations. For instance, some researchers have used techniques like dropout, which randomly drops out neurons during training. I'm sure this could be one of many techniques to introduce quirks and randomness
Also, The I developers could also just use adversarial training or your suggestion of just imitation learning, which while suboptimal, I really doubt that it would be too difficult to find enough material to through off any statistical analysis anti-cheat.
And also, if worst comes to worst, just simply hard code imperfections, and randomly adjust the bot's reaction time or accuracy to simulate human-like errors. (At the cost of performance)
@@teo2157 It's not about randomness or reaction time or errors. Models that are not specifically trained to imitate human performance are going to have statistically very significant differences with human play. It's telling that not only did players identify bots, but were able to clearly state discernible and easy to measure features of their play.
It's one thing to train models on 100k+ hours of play when it is cheaply produced by another copy of the model in real time and never stored. How are you going to get that much from humans and who pays for the storage? It's entirely off-limits to hobbyists for cost reasons, and anyone RL or another server doesn't cooperate with for access reasons.
@@paulie-g but aren’t we talking about simply making it harder for anti cheat to detect statistically impossible gameplay? like, take any other game with anti cheat, the players usually know if a player is hacking, of course, to solve this would be just as you said, training the model on actual human gameplay.
but the point is to foil the anti cheat.
Can’t wait! Your stuff got me from d1 to c3, and it’s been fun to see your story/narrative videos get better and better! Cheers.
He made me derank
Sorry lol not every night’s a good night
dude same, thanks to him my rotation and decision making are far way better, I was d1 months ago and I couldn't rank up until I watch his videos, now I'm c3
Bro's like the anttvenom of RL
@@Notriz. if you’re still looking to improve, i suggest watching Oz Rl Analyst’s ssl in one minute series. I went from c3 to gc2 in one week
I thought i'd never see the day where calling someone a bot in Rocket League is a compliment
Great stuff as always Wayton 👍
Congrats on 500k Wayton! You deserve every bit of it!
Wayton, you’re a true talent. Your cinematographic abilities are incredible. I could see you being a filmmaker one day. Absolutely incredible quality. Thank you for taking the time to make this so we can all watch and enjoy. You a real one.
I really like how you manage to keep me attached to your video. Congrats for being a mutual entertainer for the whole community of the game.
Wayton’s videos have so much quality. Great research, and very well made video!
Such a great story teller, 13 minutes felt like a 30 minute short film. The suspenseful music, flickering lights during crucial moments. Awesome work :)
Dude really set the premier for 24 hours from now
I followed this chain of evens from the beginning and it is easily one of the most insane things in gaming history. We were shown that just machine learning can be better at games than most humans within 2 months, while people using it in competitive is scummy for sure, this showing of machine learning and AI is an amazing sign for the future and I hope they are allowed to release more bots in the future.
40 years*
there is no doubt that this kind of thing will happen over and over again as new AI's are created. the unpreparedness is the basis for almost all ethical debates of AI.
I remember this being done in Dota 2 back in 2015. The exact same process and method. I’m shocked it took this long for it to happen to rocket league.
Its insane how fast bots are getting better and better, eventually they might even surpass humans.
Well technically they should
they already did tho
bots already surpassed humans in some decades we will see terminators irl
bots can and do surpass humans in almost everything, give it some time and bots will be better at literally everything
@@redragon9588reproducing. No matter how intelligent ai becomes they still will not have the ability to have sexual intercourse and create a totally unique life force from it.
Not often am I blown away by the quality of a video, but this video was outstanding. It was incredibly engaging and informative throughout and was structured beautifully. Keep up the great work Wayton!
congrats on 500k wayton!
Your documentaries always explain everything well. Keep up the great work
Holy, this is so well put together. Big ups Wayton!
this is one of the best made rocket league videos i've seen ever, great job dude
I love documentaries style videos like this, awesome work
The quality of these documentaries, man. Amazing work of research. Keep it up, Wayton.
"We always knew that it was technically possible to do but the scale of it was not expected at all" - Rolv (This is a terrifying quote for the future of AI considering we're on a MASSIVE AI boom right now in 2023)
These types of videos are always so interesting to watch, keep it up!
Sick video!
Love these documentary style RL vids, always a blast to watch
Once again had chills.
10/10 videos as always!
Loving the documentary style vids, keep it up Wayton!
Well deserved 500k Wayton, keep up the great work
Love these types of videos. Was well worth the wait
CONGRATS ON 500K!!! Keep up the good work wayton
fire documentary, keep it up wayton, love to see it!!!
One can see the effort you put in. Thanks for the high-quality entertainment.
Actually what an awesome video! Great job Wayton!
Keep it up with these documentory worth the wait and great to watch
*I absolutely LOVE Wayton's documentaries
I love rl documentaries man theyre so cool, especially the ones by wayton.
So well produced and structured, love it!
You know, I see this and I don't see a short documentary about cheaters in a video game, I see a young man working on his art form. Great stuff. Keep it up, you're opening doors you don't know yet
Yooooo nice job Wayton 500k subs good job I have been with you since 2021 🎉
the effort put in this video is wild. Thanks man
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Absolutely beautiful vid, and congrats on the half-million sub milestone!
This RL bot situation shows how people can take one thing which is beneficial and completely flip it upside down and not have anything and ruin the fun for others. We cldve had bots at SSL level which wldve helped us play better, practice with them and see how far can a bot go, but just cuz of few people, we might never see a bot above 2000mmr ever again.... truly sucks.
Also wayton, this video was a really high quality video, the editing to the music used, everything was very immersive, this might be one of your best videos yet.
Congrats on 500K subs btw
Top tier, grade a, chefs kiss production quality from Wayton...again. Keep it up dude
The 500k is much deserved. Great video as always.
Great job! I enjoyed watching this video about such a great game.
Grats on 500k subs! Let's gooo!
Awesome video and content as always.
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wow this walton guy is a pretty good editor
Wayton 🤣
walter?
Even with all the buzz around the bots, not only have I not ever encountered a cheater, but it seems like phsyonix was able to, almost completely, remove the cheater and lately I've not seen people complaining about it almost at all.
Nice job phsy
Ty for this video, i have seen a bot in my rl game but i didnt know anything about how they came in the game. Ty for enlightening me on the subject👍
“Sold it on their discord… for free!” Cracked me up
This is a scinematic masterpiece, well done!
Nice work man this feels like a documentary
Great video man. I'm mainly been a Counter Strike player over the years. We have had to deal with hacking pretty much the entire time. The game allows just simple hacks to be so powerful, like just think of how powerful seeing through walls would be in an FPS. I feel jealous that your game has had such a clean non hacking experience. All I can say is that the skill level has been raised for how hard is is to create a bot. Now that these bot creators have removed their code and their creation is banned. This won't stop other people with the skill level to creat their own though. My advice to RL would be to prepare for the return of bots, and pay attention to small accounts that may use this. Not everyone that creates hacks will release them like happened this time. You got lucky. Now prepare for more stealthy hacks. Good luck.
Great video! There had been a player using the bot in ranked in June 2022 and streaming it. He was shut down very quickly because both those who watched a lot of Bot Training at that time and those who developed the bots quickly informed Psyonix about it.
I wouldn't be surprised the reason Psyonix was able to accurately detect and shut down all bot accounts within just a few weeks was because they had about 6 months of a head start and there was not any fuss about it.
I love these cinematics and the content ::)
a truly masterpiece of a storytelling. Good job
We got to 500k,now let’s go to 1mil,luv ur vids wayton.
Your videos get me on the edge of the seat
BEST CONTEENT CREATOR EVER!!
KEEP IT UP!!
love your vids man keep up the good work
Man imagine if the bots could be tuned, so that u play against a platinum to practice, but like in normal RL. Instead of allstar bots its just bronze, plat, champ etc etc...
this minidocumentary was just PERFECT.
I love your videos and keep up the hard work
Congrats on 500k Wayton!
Bro you are a genuinely good storyteller. You should get to make stuff like documentaries in rocket league scene like NRG's journey to win s8 or BDS world championship
Wayton you make such good vids man
Hi Wayton. I am a big fan of you!!! Also congrats for 500k subs!!!!!
The production is juicy my guy
Congratulations on 500k!
When I started playing SFV again I noticed when I played offline again that the highest bot lvl was about as good as a high bronze. They know what's happening but still don't have the capacity a person does to pull off fakes or frame traps. So basically as soon as you learn how to use 1 Char. you can always beat the CPU version because you know more about the limits than the program reading the actual numbers
Bro, this video was nuts. I feel like I'm watching a literal documentary.
Another documentary by Wayton! Well made!
Very well done and well researched
Really high quality documentary for a 10 minute rocket league video
Great video mate!!
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Nice edits loved the vid(:
This is some peak Wayton editing
Your documentaries remind me of the quality videos Sunless once uploaded, great stuff!
Love this mate ty
You are the most cinematic person Ove ever seen and you really live into the things Thats happening
this is just so good man
Wayton the only one who makes opening a google docx and title it look like the most epic part of the whole story
I encountered those bots as well in many ranked matches back than. Even got some saved replays of those matches. But it's good they've been able to get this bots out of the game again.
this is just so well made
WOW. That is all I can say. What a banger of a video plontion, I enjoyed every second
Wayton Vids the only Rocket League Vids i still watch after i quit
Always a good and slightly existential day when Walton posts a cinematic
Hugeeee video amazing as always
Thanks for a short, clear recap.
What an amazing documentary my godness
I just wanna say, that within 9 hours you gained 1k subscribers which is crazy to me, your content is mindblowing
bro this insane quality
Great way to make this story entertaining
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Great content as always 👌