The true story behind the first cheater in Rocket League
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- čas přidán 11. 10. 2022
- The idea that there are no cheaters in Rocket League is a reassuring, if not naive thought. But just because it hasn’t happened before, doesn’t mean it isn’t possible - and there are other ways to manipulate, deceive, and otherwise cheat the Rocket League community...
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Nytrodrift
Taku
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I've been cheating in Rocket League since the game has come out. I have over 6500 hours and still play like a silver. Best hacks on the market.
We miss 2017 Jon, we all do
🤣🤣🤣
Where does one acquire this power?
Hey Jon, if you see this I wanna run 2s. add me. My epic is, one shiny carrot
hi jon
“And I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn’t for you meddling kids” has never felt more true
He kinda did it to himself, if he toned it down a bit he would probably still be going
would have
this comment is gold
Would "have"
You beat me to my comment 😭😭
Changing "jimmy's" name. Bro I'm always just so impressed with your integrity in just everything you do. It's such an admirable trait.
meat rider detected
@@chase5298 can't even admire people without people like you being like this 😂
@@BadLuckFPV there's a big difference between admiration and meat riding
@@chase5298 definitely
@@chase5298 damn where’d that comment go, embarrassed to keep it up.
Okay, but exploiting the code to achieve results like that is impressive in its own right. Would’ve been something really cool and unique if he wasn’t a liar.
True
if he had no prior programming experience, then sure, it was quite a feat. but any programmer could do this if they really needed to. it's actually quite pathetic to go to such lengths to decieve someone.
@@patakk8145 are you a programmer?
@@mewan5360 yes, and even though I've never worked with this kind of stuff, I'm pretty sure I could muster something up in a day
@@mewan5360 its probly not hard to just change some parameters
Honestly, I never thought anyone would be able to actually “cheat” in rocket league
well he wasn’t cheating in multiplayer
true its near impossible in the games real way to be played in a competitive sense. but freestyling is something similar to trickshotting, always gonna be people who post illegitimate clips
His name is Shimmy
@@mintyexe- Lol so close to Jimmy 😂
@@botdog370 since there are bots like nexto, which is a AI that plays on High GC Level, i guess creators of this could use this in ranked matches when injected client side.
Nytrodryft and Taku actually convinced an entire community that a strongly supported player was cheating, but also found evidence for it. That's called determination, and more people need to applaud them 👏👏👏
twin
triplets (sorry i lied.)
I'm sure all the energy and patience came from jealousy lol
that’s not what courage means but ok
Thats called Virginity Level 999
Wow, that ending is beautiful. I'm not deep into Rocket League anymore but from time to time I gravitate towards this channel and the care and quality that is poured into these videos for a game you clearly love is amazing.
Same here I dont play or watch any rl videos anymore but I knew sunless wouldn't disappoint. The end was epic 👌😅
Sunless should be an RL court judge and do a Judge Judy like mini series
Tbh based and professional way to handle the whole situation, cheater, and larger community as a whole. Shout out to him and the people that caught the cheater.
The fact that sunless took the extra step to censor jimmy’s real name shows how much he cares for this community
He didn’t change it much lol
@@lydonbrewster1178 wait who was it actually
@@lucasceleste4743 shimmy
@@lydonbrewster1178 thanks
True
As the first name listed in probably one of the top 5 worst apologies of all time, I can confirm just how manipulative he was to his close friends. This video captures everything so well, and the twist at the end is so thoughtful. Love it :)
If you don't mind me asking, did you end up making up with Jimmy or have you completely cut ties?
@@notheories9012 as far as I know they cut ties. I saw some stuff on discord cuz I’m friends with some freestylers and I’m in some servers that had talked about it. Could be wrong though
Glad you liked it and sorry that happened to you jax.
Well said jax
I hope you are mentally better now
Sunless’ story telling ability and organization is top notch. Great video and a beautiful way to end it. Those guys are the true legends.
I have been watching your videos for sometime now man... you are truly one of the best creators on CZcams and in the RL space. The respect you show when you touch a lot of topics is amazing and commendable. It shows how much you care about the community and your work. Thank you for the great content as always!
I love when sunless does these documentary type videos.
ong but i found this vid lowkey funny
Fr bro it makes video games feel so offical
Ur 100% right man sunless does op docs lmao
Yes! It's different but also professional. I fuck with it. I mean bravo the guy still making videos about RL🤣
Sameee
Amazing work on this one, both by you and of course Nytrodrift and Taku. The Freestyle Detectives!
Kid
Amazing work on your TAS video aswell
Hey sludge I like your videos bro
Mr Sledge I loved your recent video
They should get a special player title lol
I thought sunless was about to say “the cheaters name isn’t Jimmy, that cheater, was me” 😂
Honestly that could not have been put together any better, I’m so glad my friend told me about your channel so I can watch your amazing vids, keep up the good work👍
When this all came out I was praying someone would make a documentary about it, insane vid as always!
Incredible video
sup thanovic whats up in ur lif
Kinda lame to make a documentary about car soccer lol
@@markalterado88 kinda lame to make a hate comment on a good video lol
Nytrodryft is one of my favorite people in this game. Hes so wholesome and genuine, has been since day 1.
Hello! :)
Virge is one of my favorite people in this game. Hes so wholesome and genuine, has been since day 1.
He genuinely has the coolest comp style I've ever seen. Him and evample are my 2 favs
hi virge
yes
I didn’t even realise his name wasn’t Jimmy until the end of the video. What a chad move - I am mindblown.
Love the twist at the end, keep the cheater from being seen or heard, perfect way to limit the impact and not fall into the trap the cheater has laid. Same problem in Gran Turismo 7 and Sim Racing games, the ones who exploit/cheat/drive-dirty get into the videos of the big guys, which gives them notoriety and then encourages and emboldens them to continue their bad behaviour. Gotta break the chain, which is what you have done here masterfully. Great vid, great story. One of your best I think!
This is one of your best videos imo. The story was so intriguing the whole way through, felt like it was straight out of some kind of mystery movie. And the icing on the cake of not giving the guy attention, hell yeah. Awesome vid Sunless.
Yes I agree, it gave me wirtual vibes
Both of you are new
I agree as hard as humanly possible.
@@DavidPerez-xc9ve it's the sandrock video for me
@@DavidPerez-xc9ve I’m not sure how agreeing that this video is one of his best makes us new? I’m sure you have your amazing reasons
The freestyle community is going through so much hahah
I still dont know if its a very good thing or not
hi maktuf
@@TheBeast-qo2xz hi 😊
I think it’s good. With challenges comes change and growth. I think the freestyle scene will continue to mature and grow together.
@@SunlessKhan yea
@@SunlessKhan such an odd event to happen, I always thought rocket league was unhackable competitively
The worst part is that he was actually kind of good at freestyling
What was his name
@@glahboomed Jimmy
Facts still a goat
@@glahboomed shimmy
Obviously not ey 🤣
I love the way you make these videos into a small documentary!! Keep it up Sunless!
Taku and Nytrodryft are just out here casually saving the integrity of one of the biggest, and greatest games to ever exist. Well played.
Rocket League is GOAT becoz there are no cheaters i really hope it stays the same my whole life
@Siddhant Garg apparently there is a recent cheat that assists demos. lol look it up if you haven't heard about it. Kinda crazy but not a game breaking cheat. If you're champ+, it is easy to dodge by jumping, but sucks for the lower ranks though...
"biggest, and greatest" lmao. nice joke
Rocket League is extremely fun, it's a great game. Biggest and greatest though, I don't think so.
this comment means you need to touch grass unfortunately
I'd never heard of this story before this point, and big props for leaving the cheater anonymous. This has gotta be one of your best videos to date. Thank you sunless.
its shimmy i honestly dont know why sunless censored the name when everyone was talking about shimmy when the news first came out + the discord and everything literally has shimmy in the name
@@noirbebop well it's not for censoring, it's for not giving him credit and that's fine
And here I am thinking their name was actually Jimmy 💀
I gotta say, I kinda forgot I was on youtube. This episode just had the feel like this was a TV investigation. great work on the video, major props to the editor and sunless for all the work into this video!!
The reveal at the end of "oh ya, his name isn't 'Jimmy' " and showed the edits for that fake name. PEAK!! The writing, slight twist and details are why I love sunless videos. I'm not even a friend of him pretending writing a fake review
good job and ty for letting me help with the video :D
Honestly, mad respect to Nytrodryft and Taku for putting in that much time and effort into this situation. Proud of them both
Very entertaining, and mature with that. I never regret having discovered your channel.
Best twist ending. Jimmy wasn't Jimmy. lol. I love it. :)
jimmy was shimmy
I remember playing during this and I was like wtf this dude is insane then when it came out he was cheating I was like "holy I thought it was real"
Minor point at 6:05 - TAS don't involve using AI, they just record your inputs and let you go back and edit them, allowing you to create a perfect shot more easily.
Noticed that too, thought they were talking about some new AI way for speedrunning but then it was TAS.
It is artificial intelligence tho? Using a computer program to allow you to hit clips is AI
@@doctor_puff4527 no it is not
@@doctor_puff4527 AI would be the computer making decisions
@@doctor_puff4527 no its not if i make a program to do something its not AI as im telling it what to do if the computer did it without me telling it to do that its AI
I am glad that you put the effort in to prevent the cheater from getting any attention with the name editing. Another good video Sunless, I always enjoy your content
Another banger video essay, nice job sunless!
Dude, your documentary videos are so fun to watch. It's awesome to be able to learn a little more about the history of Rocket League, but you also manage to present it in such a fun way as well. Can't wait for the next one
Sunless isn't a content creator... he's a straight up journalist... love these types of vids
Turning into the Jon Bois of rocket league and I love it
@@runeraid1561 so true. Sunless and John bois go hand in hand
Yo nice video man. Really well put together and great ending!
I'm roughly ten days and two thousand comments late, but I just wanna say that I really appreciate Sunless for posting both friendly silliness with his buddies and documentaries (such as this video or the one on the Queso Save) that can be understood even by people who are not already super involved in "the scene". So... thank you!
Yeah I've never played rocket league but sunless and rocket sledge have made me try to pick it up. Being someone that's used to Fps or RPGs I can understand the controls at all but I'm trying
This video really does a perfect job of explaining everything simply, I also like that you brought the 2 touch to light, which surprisingly nobody knows about. What was really keeping him from suspicion was how close his unaware friends and teammates were with him in general, but I think I should have been thinking something was up when he would almost exclusively play doubles with one teammate, who was probably one of the only people in on it. It was interesting to see how a single player could raise montage standards so sharply like that, and it was kinda demotivating seeing someone just fly away with the skill ceiling. There was a time where people kinda just didn't reverse cam or nocam on shots because it was boring compared to what he did.
plot twist: the cheater was sunless
It actually was
I appreciate your videos. There is a lot more cheaters than that. But I am happy that you caught one. The video just started but I am very interested in what happens.
TAS was (and still kind of is) a big thing in Trackmania as well. It was used as a tool to assist speedruns and get as close as possible to perfect exectuion. Nowadays its used more as a 'bar setter' to see how perfect you, as a human can get to near perfect.
If you want to see how TAS was abused. Look up "The Biggest Cheating Scandal in Trackmania History" by Wirtual
Wow, I'm surprised someone mentioned Trackmania with TAS.
Good comparison but Riolu cheated by slowing down the game with cheat engine which is same same but different
@@KanataGamer Riolu didn't use TAS tools, but Trabadia and Skycrafter certainly did
Man Im so happy someone mentioned Trackmania, I've been playing it since it came out, also Im still a noob
@@KanataGamer It's... not different though, TAS can use anything from an auto clicker to a frame by frame program. It's in the name, Tool Assisted Speedrun.
This is the best video you have put out in a while. Love these story style essays. Keep up the great work. I love the dedication to the research.
sorry that was me
It's ok
It's ok fam bam
it’s ok fam bam mam
it's ok fam bam mam jam
It’s ok fam bam mam jam ham
been a lot of banger vids lately, keep it up!
Love these types of videos bro
Man your production quality has improved so much from when you were first growing as a channel. You really are the spiritual successor to LoR. Good stuff sunless
LoR?
Very well thought out video, was cool to see all the efforts that taku and nytro went through to get to the eventual conclusion. Still couldn’t believe it when I found out he faked clips. Also I would love to see some more stuff on the noflipping side of freestyling, it’s something that hasn’t really been explained in videos and there is a lot of in depth stuff around it which could make for a really cool video. 👍
i agree with otis
What was the name of the guy
Face of the UK otis
Brighton bender
@@scare.3982 wym scare
Amazing video! Loved the twist on the real heroes!
I absolutely love these style of videos as if they were like a mini tv series on news networks or something
Friends as a use of defense 😂
and his friends didnt even know lmao
They aren't "friends".. people that cheat like this don't have friends in real life. They're just people online that were impressed by his deceit.
We didnt even know any of it, we trusted our friend, but oh well we were screwed over lol
@@hhaste yes we r lol most of us r still friends with him
I love the way you approached the name of the individual. Giving them neither recognition nor hate was the best way to go about it
Sunless just keeps raising that RL content bar. Amazing as always!
Love the ending. Keep up the good work!
Next up: The true story about the first banned Freestyler in Rocket League
Great story telling Sunless, as always
i like that
Who do you imply?
@@mvd.410 fadez lolololol
The Hog Rider card is unlocked from the Spell Valley (Arena 5). He is a quick building-targeting, melee troop with moderately high hitpoints and damage. He appears just like his Clash of Clans counterpart; a man with brown eyebrows, a beard, a mohawk, and a golden body piercing in his left ear who is riding a hog. A Hog Rider card costs 4 Elixir to deploy.
The Hog Rider card is unlocked from the Spell Valley (Arena 5). He is a quick building-targeting, melee troop with moderately high hitpoints and damage. He appears just like his Clash of Clans counterpart; a man with brown eyebrows, a beard, a mohawk, and a golden body piercing in his left ear who is riding a hog. A Hog Rider card costs 4 Elixir to deploy.
Mind blown, incredible insightful video. Never would’ve thought this would be possible
Sunless making Jimmy anon, is the same level as him erasing that one smurf in that pro challenge video from a while ago lmao. Love the dedication to your editing and storytelling!
Knowing who this is, Sunless calling him Jimmy is funny as hell 😂
fr 😭
what's his real name on youtube ?
@@mirceasavu shimmy
IKR! lmaooo
sunless vids just get better and better
Bro this video was so well put together I can almost feel the emotions coming inside me
The "Jimmy" twist at the end got me good. Awesome video as always sunless!!
amazing video honestly, every important bit of info seems to be in here. and smart move to not give that attention that he wants by changing his name. i hope people learn from this
yeah you're right denden
This is so good and I have only seen 10s of it 🙌🔥
Maktuf ur next
The guy with Jimmy as his steam ID: "Am I just a joke to you?"
Sunless your story telling is amazing
He just has a really good gaming chair trust
U didn’t watch the video but ok
@@Poosan_ I was the gaming chair
@@ArcadeAssassin arcade legit copied my comment 🤣 nah jk it's overused at this point
Nah it's just his gamer juice
Ok Arcade Ass
Love the videos my man. Hey I wanna request some more gameplay I loved your toxic player series!!
I have one in the works! I don’t play with chat on much any more so I encounter less toxicity these days 😅
@@SunlessKhan awesome!
@@champ3305 1 second ago...
@@BIucut ye just saw he commented lol 😆
@@SunlessKhan same
minus the having a video in the works part
Great video as always. Just one thing I wanted to add: TAS has (afaik) nothing to do with AI. You perform all the moves yourself but in slow motion and stitch the best parts together for a "perfect" run.
insane plot twist at the end, you're really a good one keep it up 💪
Love the rocket league documentary style
Masterclass in journalism used for rocket cars. Never change sunless, never change.
Yeah sure "journalism" lmao Half of what he stated in this video is innacurate or false.
@@TheNovembernovember Righto Jimmy
I’ve been waiting for someone to make a video on thisss
The twist at the end was straight out of a thriller movie, his name was not Jimmy
Congratulations on coming up with yet another original amazing idea and presenting it only like you can. This was a great episode.
What about all those guys who say "cheating" when they drive behind their teammate during a kickoff?
Love the video, very well put together. What was the song played during Chapter 2? Really enjoyed it!
“A shot that any Joe Schmo can score”
Shows something I still can’t even do 😅
Cheating in rocket has never crossed my mind
Rocket leagues community integrity is so unmatched and is why it will always be my favorite game
There’s more toxic players in RL than any other game I’ve ever played...what are you talking about.
What a save!
What a save!
What a save!
What a save!
Chat has been disabled for 3 seconds.
What a save!
@@jaredchampagne2752 it didn’t used to be so bad but I’ve noticed it’s gotten horrible lately but so has every game.
@@BameronCerry Cameron energy for sure
It's bad
Having seen another video on the guy, I know his name and was confused for a while; now I understand. You are so admirable, Sunless. Thank you for all you do for the community.
If you want to know, the name of this youtube channel is lunahh. I know because I watched a couple of his videos and in the video it shows his discord at 3:56. I don't rlly know what you want to do with this information but I also couldn't care less. Enjoy :0.
bro we really have sunless for free on youtube and pay for netflix😂😂
honestly, i know what jimmy did was bad and all, but really well thought out. it takes a next level of mind to even think of what he did. not saying the part with his friends was good. but the fact that he took the script and was able to tweak so many things is honestly incredible
Glad this finally got covered, I was in the evidence discord p early and it is a really wild situation
I appreciate pointing out how being a cheater harms the community in really big ways that go beyond just winning some undeserved recognition. Honestly screw people like them.
I ran into Taku in casual match randomly on my alt, this guy is insane. I saved the clip of him doing a crazy wave dash flick into reverse cam double(idk what else to call it lol). It was the first time I saw something like that. Props to these guys
Such a double standard. Catches a cheater and then goes ahead and cheats himself!!😂
@@arsenalboi ???
@@arsenalboi what are you talking about
@@jl3laze86 I'm joking ffs
@@royoRL It's a damn joke
This crazy yo
yo
fr yo
yo
bro your intros are so crazy good
The fckin AoT of rocket league with the plot twists you put on the videos, always come back to this channel, you, my friend, are a genius
When you notice a lot of cheating throughout different games, you begin to see that, despite the lack of authenticity which is a problem in-and-of-itself, the consequence is that these things can then be more detectable in the future and stop this from happening so often/at all. That's the part I choose to focus on. I look forward to a brighter future in the RL community!
He didn’t deceive his friends, they were in on it.
Stop lying.
@@LukeSaward I think in the bis they said that his friends(atleast most of them) helped him like when people got suspicious his friends would come along and support him
@@LukeSaward it's been proven lmao
5:35 reminds me of the good old mw2 montages and cod montages ... take me back
Your music choise when showing find my way monstage was so much better then the original video.
Great video. It's too bad that so often the "authentic" clips are actually hit on silver players because most of these guys tank their casual mmr. They might as well hit the clips on bots. Shoutout to Psyonix Devin for finally starting to do something about these guys. Smurfing is cheating too.
Here now is just the worst place to make this comment cuz it's about the good things of freestyling what's possible with it. Not to say you're wrong but it's not the right place for this here
@@acronix_racer_08 it’s more relevant than ever tbh, even though someone like Faith never inputted cheats and code changes through Bakkes, smurfing is still cheating clips, not to mention it ruins experiences for newer players
@@jacobtumidolsky1563 nah, thru my experience i’ve inspired many to learn aerial plays and most of them end up adding me after the game
@@prada_rl Psyonix Terms of Use and End User License Agreement
Smurfing is not allowed. We define a smurf account as an account that is intentionally abusing the matchmaking system for the player’s gain, or the gains of others.
Example of a Smurf Account: Intentionally keeping an account at a lower Rank than where you normally play; starting an alternate account to harass others.
Players engaging in cheating or matchmaking abuse are subject to account suspensions and/or bans.
cheater.
As a new RL player and someone who takes game integrity very seriously I can't help but thank the people like Nytrodryft and Taku enough. While watching this video and hearing them break down how they were able to catch him cheating was soooo refreshing. The saying is good guys finish last. But in reality, bad guys never finish. Better late than never.
So interesting! I like "documentaries" like that 🙌
The last bit where you showed us you didn’t put his real name gave me mad respect bro. Awesome vid💯