I PLAYED YOUR GAMES! | Let's Talk Game Design.
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2019
- I played your indie games and here is my feedback for you! Hope you enjoy. :)
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The Grand Illusion
by Antique Gear Games
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Grazerment
by Sky Chan
Game: skyychann.itch.io/grazerment
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How I chose the games for this video
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Artificer's Journey
by Adroid Conceptions
Game: adroitconceptions.itch.io/art...
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Cuby
by Chogi Games
Game: chogi.itch.io/cuby
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Snake Man
by Murarz208
Game: murarz208.itch.io/snakeman
24:32
The Ball
by Aklom
Game: aklom.itch.io/the-ball
Unity Tutorial: • How to make Your First...
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What if I didn't play your game?
Will we do this again?
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Big thank you for all of the awesome games and prototypes you sent me! It was a pleasure to play them.
#gamedev #indiedev #gamedesign
Big props for all of the awesome stuff you're creating! I feel absolutely humbled to have an audience like this.
Check out the description for time stamps and download links for all of the games. :)
Atleast your giving honest feedback. Hope your community grows more ✌
@@RonitManhas Somewhat honest because being too honest can be quite unconstructive. Thank you! :)
Hello Shaggy :)
@@240garchive Hi
From which country are you?
I found you today and subbed, really nice Videos (-;
"Regular guy from the internet"
You dont fool us, legolas
XD
But he is the high elf Tyrodaal!
I don't even know this fellow.
@@guyclykos I saw your comment just as he said guy from the internet
This is Bjorn Ironside, not Legolas.
CZcams really needs a Q+A section in the comments so you can reply to the important comments without having to slog through the rest of them
You can use hashtags for a similar effect.
@@dimensionalblade2778 But how
search @@theodorechatzis7881 CZcams comment finder on google and filter only the ones with #q&a !!
Ok
Just make a fiscord server with qna channel
9:29 Sheep. Those are lawn mowing SHEEP! xD
Haha. Ooops. xD
I was thinking the same thing. "Graze"erment. Grazing sheep.
That makes those white blobs sleeping sheep
lol that was funny tho
[This comment is in no way intended to sound negative or detract from the game creator's skill]
On the third game, the animations and character are very well done, mostly because they are premade package that you can purchase. I know this because I too own the package and so can you! This in no way detracts from the work that the game designer did. I only bring this up because I want other creators to know that creating a character with that level of quality is very is easy to purchase and bring into your games, in this game it is a Unity asset. So if you think the 3rd game looks amazing and you want to make something just as good, you 100% can! Unity makes it very easy to get high quality assets like this. The game looks great!
What asset is it if you mind me asking?
@@sentientsaladstudios6326 assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/animations/rpg-character-mecanim-animation-pack-63772
This appears to be the asset used. Its a really good one too, I bought it myself and it works great! These people also do smaller animation packs (many of which I have purchased) that are top notch. I highly recommend them all!
Thanks!
@@TheIronicRaven But seems like the other stuff are made by him
On the Grand Illusionist, Increase the damage every time the ball bounces off a wall. Add a cool down to be able to pick the ball back up. Encourages more careful and strategical gameplay
Oh dang, that sounds interesting! That would make it so that you have to bounce it on the wall as many times as possible. Thanks!
For the first game, a purely melee enemy that keeps chasing you. This will force the player to move around as he shoots, and then move around some more while avoiding the enemies, to pick his ball back up
More people like this so the creator sees!
Hey Jonas, thanks a lot for playing my game! I learned a lot from your feedback.
I was also worried that the game lacks strategy. The main decision the player had to make was which enemy to hit first. Other than that there wasn't much.
I was reminded of this fear while watching this video, so I decided to do something about it! I thought your idea of getting rid of the ball bouncing off the enemies was the most interesting and intuitive (and easiest lol) so I quickly modified the code and it is now SOOOOOOOOOO much more interesting! You now have a good reason NOT to shoot, which is awesome. Players need to pick their targets much more carefully and think about how many balls they need to use.
Thank you again, that little bit of feedback greatly improved my game.
One thing I was thinking off, you could make durability for the balls, for example, if they are thrown 50 times they "break" or disappear or if they hit an enemy 50 times. This would make it more fun and also harder and players would need to think instead of just spamming the balls.
@@unearthlynarratives_ Yeah, that could be an interesting workaround! Kinda like how you can't just use a really good weapon in Breath Of The Wild because it will break.
Thanks for the suggestion!
@@AntiqueGear no problem, good luck, hopefully it all works out for you!
@@unearthlynarratives_ Thank you! I think it will.
Hey, I have a few ideas for you.
1. Make the enemy's projectiles faster, but unable to go through walls, that way the player would have to be a bit more cautious when moving around rather than just running straight in.
2. Your game NEEDS diagonal surfaces. That way, the player could hit enemies from around a corner with a well aimed shot.
3. Switches that require something on them to remain activated. The idea is that you'd need to leave a ball on it if you need it to open a door, for instance.
4. Those shields should not go all the way around the enemy they are protecting. They should be small, but should follow the player, so that in order to hit the enemy that they're protecting the player will have to bounce the ball off of something to circumnavigate the shield.
5. Some kind of lava, or a barrier that you can't walk on, but you can throw balls over.
Well done to everyone who's games were shown❗️, and nice comments Jonas, very constructive, such a diplomatic human 🧐😎
I'm trying. Thank you. :D
What if someone submits malware and your PC becomes the game? :)
That would stink. You reminded me that I should probably backup my data again. lol :P
Thats true tho, many of my friends computers have viruses including me so using antivirus is really advised
@@bongobliss5795 I obviously have that but I doubt it protects you against everything.
Jonas Tyroller if you craft a 1-off build, your Anti Virus is not going to catch it. Be sure to use a VM, or use a burner pc that you can reinstall at will (note that some malware can persist in hardware like your HDD/SSD firmware and even your bios/uefi
@@JonasTyroller Tech guy here, you're absolutely right.
However the biggest ones will detect most things, as long as you keep the register updated. Basically a list of all viruses that have been found before. Obviously new viruses get created all the time, but they all get found eventually.
Personally, I use windows defender (it's built in, but actually decent) and Malwarebytes to perform system scans
I didn't submit anything but I just wanted to say you give very good and helpful feedback. Usually when people give feedback in general they tend to just look at the good parts because they're scared to discourage or offend the creator by mentioning something negative, but you were very clear with what you liked and what you thought was bad, and how to improve it. When I start making a game seriously that I intend to relese you're the first one I'll ask when it comes to asking youtubers/streamers to try my game :)
Negative feedback is the best source of inspiration of creativity it shows where your weakness is and shows where to put your attention to improve your product
I'm really impressed by your feedback! You really gave other people's games and how to improve them some serious thought and some great ideas. Really great game designing!
Thank you. :)
I know you will read this.
At first, I looked at you as you would be a joke. And now it just hit me - you are hardworking superman dude. Love your continent, honesty and the mood. Lot of youtubers are trash even though they have talent. You are my gem in this developer journey. Thank you greatly! Subbed
9:40 Identifies (probably) sheeps as cars.
Hopefully I'm also wrong. :P
23:22 that game is made in Godot Engine :D
Well done
Jonas, I just watched your "Things I Don't Feel Comfortable Telling You About
" Video and I am seriously with you on every single point, it was like watching myself. I dont know where Im going with this but it was kinda inspirational seeing that video and seeing you today. How far you've come.
Thank you. Was definitely scary to upload something like that shortly after starting the channel. :p
So happy to see this again! This is by far my favorite series of yours, Jonas. You have the best eye for game design of any gamedev CZcamsr I'm aware of. Hope you make more!
Ohhh. Don't humble me too much. Thank you. ;D
I have some ideas for the first game: you can make boss level, in which you just have ONE ball. If you have 3 balls right before the boss level, you could make two button, which you can activate with the balls. And you can make it so that the enemy as a small chance to reflect your balls.
Restricting the player's abilities and taking power away from the player can definitely makes for some interesting moments. Cool idea to do so with buttons.
Hey! Thanks for playing my game Jonas! I'm still learning and your advice was very helpful. :)
which one was yours?
You're welcome. Keep going man! :)
Hey Jonas,
Giving design feedback on simple WIP games is a really cool idea and is super useful to new game developers (as well as slightly more experienced ones). Please keep it up :)
I really like the feedback you give here. This is really high quality feedback and you offered so many brilliant ideas that would genuinely improve all of the games
Artificer’s Journey could be a cool adventure RPG if the NPCs had longer, more human dialogue, and there was a bigger story, like Jonas mentioned
Starting with the rabbits and then ramping up the difficulty with the magicians after the player gets used to throwing balls seems like a sensible approach to teach the player the mechanics.
Yes, totally. The difficulty ramp-up in The Grand Illusion was quite pleasant so far.
Thanks! That's what I was going for.
I think the game is a little too hard, but Jonas thinks it's fine tho so maybe not lol
(I guess I'll just have to playtesy more)
the last game and the one with the sky islands looks very interesting!
Nachträglichen Glückwunsch für die 10K
Nice Video, Jonas!
I always like your Game-Design videos
Glad to hear it. Thank you. :)
that ball game looks like it could be an instant classic. very very impressive games and great video
So disappointed I missed the date to submit in this, but great job on the video! Keep it up and nice criticism for the games! :)
There'll be another chance. Thank you. :)
Jonas Tyroller Awesome! Can’t wait :)
For the first game, make the balls explode so they damage you if you get too close
13:38 guy who developed this game - PLEASE FINISH IT! This game look very interesting and cool! But, yes: you need give player some story (maybe character be like a kinda the Witcher)
P.s. Sorry for my grammar, I'm from Ukraine and not speak in English good)
Love that you keep doing good content even when you got popular, good video :)
Artificer's journey has a lot of potential. Keep up the good work
Too bad i didnt had to show something, i wanted to show something finished or something that feels like a game
On Artificer’s Journey I think the movement animations could be way smoother (the transitions) because they lot a bit unnatural. I would also make the player outline thinner or a different colour. The sound effects could also do with some work but apart from that it’s AMAZING. Definitely better than anything I could do 😂
I couldnt send my game in but i learned so much by all ur feedback in those games
I'm happy to hear that. Awesome! :)
Good video. It gives the chance to smaller indies to get noticed as well and that's a good thing :D
Thank you. I'm happy you think that way. For the most part I hope it motivates people to keep going! :)
Nice video, hopefully I can get my game checked out by you when it's ready soon!
Actually been watching the Grand Illusion's devlog for a while. Surprised to see him here.
Oh hi! :D
That juggling ball game needs some... JUGGLING.
One way to do this: Have the juggler passively juggle the balls giving the ball the same xy velocity as the juggler as it is thrown. The juggler must be under the ball as it falls to catch it again. You will need good timing to change directions.
Charge up a ball for a more powerful attack by throwing it high into the air. This power-up applies only to the specific ball you threw high and lasts until the ball touches the ground.
Artificers Journey seems really cool. Great potential here.
The last one was fantastic indeed.
An idea that I have for the jester ball throwing game is to put the player on a track. Like, maybe they’re on a ride of some sort that sticks to a particular path or paths throughout the stage. That would limit player mobility enough that it would force the player to work on aiming and strategizing when to use their balls. The ride could also have a scooping tool that would collect nearby balls that are close enough to the track. This would conflict with the enemy shield mechanic, but if you made shields instead that only covered the front half of the enemies (which would make the player have to ricochet the balls off of walls to hit behind the enemies) then I think that would be a good substitute for the full shields
The grazerment game looks really neat, it could really benefit from more detail graphics and some animations when you push the sheep around
You look like an elf, rocking those pointish ears.
Jonas: I dont have time to play all of your games...
Also Jonas - Plays 8 minutes with one game -.
*im so proud of this community*
Love your videos. you inspire me to start making mu own game.love your mick donul hair line .
Saport tensing.
In the first game. I think that maybe the balls should do damage if you pick them while they are still fast. This way atacking while close to the enemies whould be discouraged.
Excellent idea. That's pretty intuitive as well. Nice.
I really enjoyed this video!! Are you thinking of part two? 😅
Yes. I'll let you know in a community post again before we do the next one. :)
The second game is moving sheep. You're try to get them to graze (eat) the whole field
Im guessing Artificer's Journey's creator took some inspiration from skies of arcadia, by the look of the level layouts.
That rolling ball game's design is awesome! Also, it would be great if it's also available on android.
Love your vids Jonas, keep it up 💪
Thank you. Will do. :)
I’m really interested in Artificer’s Journey and how it could work out
Really enjoyed this video! 👍
That's awesome. Thanks for letting me know. :D
I feel like that first game's bouncing and retrievable ammo mechanic could make an interesting bullet-hell game XD
9:39 Those car thingy are probably sheeps
The sound effect of the first game can be used as gameplay mechanic . as player u have to hit the enmmies in order to generate some sort of music sound you can combine that with color where each color in a ball do a specific music note, the story behind it could be, the clone loves music tell he got made crazy and he start killing people thinking in his mind he is making music x)
Artificer's Journey and Snake Man seem like very fun games.
Both of those games are linked in the video description. ;)
Best series 😆
i really feel like number 3 ( 13:19 ) could make a good rpg that feels like morrowind did
"More mirrors that reflect your balls" is what I learned from this
Love the graphics style on the third game feels like it could be really really good if like you said the story had a proper direction and the ui and sounds were cleaned up
what an awesome guy - you're tips were helpful to watch even though I didn't make any of these games - great content - love this channel
Thank you very much Sir. :)
that snake one is awesome casual yet challenging.
I'd make it a mobile game
Grazerment is actually a political game I made overnight. I should've told you before you selected it to review. Good review anyway!
Haha. Cool. How is it political?
@@JonasTyroller My guess is that the sheep are people, and the pushing sort of mechanic is how the internet and other influences force the sheep into a certain way of thinking. After that, even if they are proven wrong and their influences change their opinion, they are firm on the subject. Led by the shepard.
you'r channel just got recommended to me n I loved this video i subscribed n will watch more.
Awesome. Welcome on board. Praise YT recommendations for bringing us together. xD
Please do more of these
About the balls game... the balls could deal less damage the shorter the distance.
Something like that would be great. You just need to find a way to communicate that to the player and contextualize it in a way that feels logical.
I think that would be a good tradeoff. You can spam them faster if you're closer but deal more damage when further. Thanks for the idea!
The first game should take up a 2d puzzle platformer route instead of a top down dungeon crawler. The ball physics would make more sense. Adding a God of War weapon call mechanic could fix the pacing and can make for interesting puzzles concepts.
I really like that concept! I'm no good at puzzle game design tho.
For the last two they could add in a line or two of text each level which will add in a little bit of story to the game without being very distracting.
They could also add in a timer which some people might like since they can try to beat the level faster.
Very cool idea :) and cool video. Would have loved to sumbit my game, but its not yet in a showable state ^^. Also take it easy with your community, its just the nature of things. The more you grow the less time you will have to interact.
Thank you. No worries. I have a feeling this video format will return sooner or later. :D
@@JonasTyroller Great! Its also very interesting to see what other guys are doing :)
@@PhodexGames Yeah, I found that quite interesting as well. I feel like I know a lot better what you're all up to now. :D
I like the first game! Reminds me of kingdom come deliverance. Its a nice medieval setting as an jester. Hope he adds interactive funny quests. 10/10 buy for me if he adds medieval story telling/quests.
Those things you're pushing around in Grazerment are probably sheep that are grazing on a field of grass. The player is probably a shepherd (though I don't know why he looks like that) and the brown is dirt after they ate all the grass.
The white walls do look out of place and should have been grey rocks like you said.
That's my interpretation of that game anyway.
The sprites are SUPER zoomed in and low pixel.. but it's kind of an interesting art choice.
Tho it needs to be clearer what everything is supposed to be.
I think the biggest problem is identifying what each sprite is, and so improving the clarity of the art would be a huge step to making the game less of a confusing nightmare of blobs.
Those white balls that explode after you kill the enemy in the first game should injure you
That would be interesting. Kinda like explosive barrels or enemies. Thanks for the idea! :D
With that first game, make it so the ball turns red for just a second after ricocheting and can hurt the player, forcing the player to throw the ball in a direction that is both not ricocheting back at them and which you can easily retrieve the ball from.
Make this a series.
That Grazerment game is really similar to a concept I was working on... Damn 😅
To deal with such problems, make sure to use a completely out of box mechanic or just new skins lol
That's not a big problem. I'm sure the game will turn out quite different. Puzzle games often share some of the same mechanics.
I've been working on a skating sport game for a while. Roller Champions scared me at first, but mine is 2D and totally different gameplay wise. Similar is okay, now you have competition! lol
9:39 “weird car thingy”
*cries in baaaaa*
I was about to say that the first game super have potential and that i would like to see how 2 years later in development would do to it. Then i realized tbis vid is fron 2 years ago xD.
Oh boy i really want to see more of this jester game now and i hoooope its not a dead project
19:43 I guess I can't get up here,
Me: (screaming) USE THE INSTA BOX DUDE!
In the first game I'd definitely get rid of the white orbs after each kill because I cant help but expect them to do damage
Aye man I love your content!
Thank you man. Appreciate it. :)
What software do you recommend to make music for my games
Jonas: "They look to simular to thos car container things"
Me: They are sheep!
Wow good cool
Third game: Rings bell.
Game Journalists: Is this Dark Souls?
with this green shirt you look a bit like an elf :D love your commitment Jonas, hope you will check other one's games again, I might add something soon :D
Where are you from?
Germany
@@berhanewheeler4651 Cool, me too
Hey me too!
I that weird dude from the UK
Malaysia
the game that starts @ ~ 13:00 gaves a similar feel to croc. If it could be more like this it would be great,
Yeah. That game has some retro vibes for sure which for nostalgic people is probably a good thing. :D
the best I once did is create a game in gamemaker..
smh
Hi :) I'm the creator of Snake Man and I wanted to thank you for reviewing my game :) I think that remark about the content of the mail was directed to me ;) Really appreciate that you picked my game and spend some time with it! Currently, I'm adding new mechanics and updating graphics. I think I will release an update soon. If you want to check and review new stuff then let me know I'll email you when it's done ;)
Awesome. Sure, send me the update. I'll try to check it out if I find the time. :)
" Makes me sad "
Keeps smiling 😂😂
I didn't make any of these games but I learned a lot!
Hope you do this again for 2020 guys :) ?
thx
My Suggestions:
In the Grand Illusion, the Player should get extra health back, when they attack, but only when they use ranged combat.
Yeah, something like that might be a good idea.
That could add a lot more strategy. I'll think about it. Thanks!
@@AntiqueGear how did you do the game? Should I learn some coding language first before developing games?
@@zappymitts9806 I used an engine called Construct 2, but it really just depends on your skill level. If you have none, try Construct 3 or Game Maker.
@@AntiqueGear Thank you kind sir!
For the first game it maby would be a good Idea to make the bullet also hurt the Player until it stops moving.
teach last gamedev some more tutorial, he definitely will make amazing games
for the grand illusion i would probably make the balls bounce back less
Interesting tweak. Thanks for the suggestion!
Sehr cooles video!
Danke. :)
8:20 How about making a copy of the ball spawn whenever you bounce it off of a wall? The copy would just go until it hits something or slows to a stop then disappear, but it would encourage the player to bank shots because you get spread shots.