I Upgraded My Daddy's Old Surefire 6P - Malkoff M61 LED Conversion
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- I found an old Surefire 6P flashlight while we were going through my Daddy's stuff after he died. It still worked fine but the 65 lumens that was hot stuff back in the day seems pretty dim now. So I found a great USA made LED upgrade from Malkoff Devices. In this video you'll see what a difference it made.
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Ahhh... Your video on Surefire lights from back in the day ( 25+ years ago) which took me a short bit to retrieve because of their antiquated, no longer relevant, under powered, and back then... had become relegated " TROT-LINE WEIGHT " status... AS THEY RESIDED in the very deepest corner, of the deepest drawer in my old POWERHOUSE SHUTDOWN ROLLAWAY CABINET!
When I watched your video... I had put them away in HOPES THAT SOMEDAY... SOMEONE, WOULD COME UP WITH AN UPGRADE for them.
I have 2~6C's, 2~ 6Z's, 4~ 6P's, 4~3P's and 3~ 6P bodies and tail switch caps!!!
Man-O-Man... am I excited! I was a dealer for them ( self, family, friends, and co-workers in the beginning, which started in 1988!
I can't thank you enough for this UPLIFTING AND PARAMOUNT DISCOVERY!!!
ALL TOGETHER +/-... between those that I still have contact with... there is around 75 to 100 lights stuck back, just as I did, that can now be put back into service!
Thank you my friend... you have made alot of folks very happy! In all frankness... thank you so very much to have a hand in so many people's enjoyment!
My apologies as to length.
Respectfully, Seth
Small business, made in USA, up-cycling and extending the life of heirloom quality gear. Now that is checking all the boxes. Awesome use of the channel!
I thought do too. I’m jus glad to be able to use my Daddy’s flashlight.
I just purchased one for my Afghanistan veteran 20 year old 6p. Because of this video.
Great upgrade! Looking forward to seeing some of the other products from Malkoff.
I have an original Surefire 6Z first generation with one of the first Malkoff M61 LED conversions. I remember it is about 230 lumens. it's not as bright as current flashlights but it's built to last forever. the light lasts for about 2 hours
I later found another Surefire 6P same as yours. I put the same Malkoff M61 LED conversion in it too
I've got several of Malkoff lamp heads, they can't be beat for improving an old flashlight. Well worth the money.
Thumbs up all around. I have a vintage surfire 6p forend on my remington 870. The light just stopped working. I immediately purchased the m61L after watching this. So glad I stumbled across this.
Thanks for the great video, I'm definitely looking into upgrading my older flash light now! I knew I kept those old relics around for a reason! Thank you for giving my old relics new purpose
I just spoke to Gene Malkoff. He should have more ready next Feb 11 or 12 next week.
I still own a Surefire 9P and 6P. I upgraded to the surefire LED kits years ago but just found out about this company that makes even brighter bulbs.
Well definitely a thank you for the review. I have two 6P's from my days of folly that served me well, and putting them back in service. The old KL3 head from surefire was good but low lumen.
Thanks again!
These upgrade LED modules will do the trick.
GREAT review. Awesome you found an upgrade to your dad's flashlight. You can use it for many more years to come and then you can pass it down.
Yep.
Thank you for this video! I just found a couple 6P’s I carried in Iraq back in ‘04.
I got my same second gen 6P in 2002. It has been a daily companion since. I too chose the Malkoff drop in, and endorse it.
Mr Malkoff and Surefire are both top notch in quality and warranty, something I say having broken lights from most other popular makers at work. Their lights are for those who want gear to count on.
Bought the same kit for my Surefire 6Z I purchased I think back in 1998. Darn I’m getting old. Really transformed the light that’s been in my nightstand all these years.
Upgraded my 2 6P lites with the malkoff upgrades, also upgraded my Glock laser/ light with a Hong Kong sourced unit, its even dimmable, what a great leap in performance. Good video, Daddy probably smiling down on you for keeping one of his treasures in service.
I am glad I found the Malkoff site
Thanks for sharing.. i can fix and upgrade now my Surefire Flashlight.
Nice video on updating your dads flashlight, it's nice to know u can still update instead of having to buy a newer one.
yep
I have an Elzetta with a Malkoff module and it's awesome. Great product from a great company. Bonus in making Dad's old light great again!!!
Gene makes good stuff
Purchased this to upgrade my Surefire 628!
Aw man, it makes me smile, legitimately smile, when you get a classic heirloom like this and upgrade it for the current generation of technology :-) Hope it brings you good memories, Bryan.
4 to 500 lumens is kind of a sweet spot, isn't it? I noticed that aside from a thrower, this is about the highest amount of light I use regularly, and I don't find myself hurting for more. And with the kind of beam you described, seems like a 6P-M61 would make a good shotgun mounted light, wouldn't it?
I think so
Thanks and Blessings!
Very helpful video. Thank you sir.
Happy to help
Great Upgrade for that price, Bryan, Father Will Be Shining Down On Ya, Brother ! ATB T God Bless
He is indeed Terry
I did the same thing with an old Maglite. It’s kind of special to use your dad’s old flashlight but even better when you can upgrade it to be able to really use your dad’s special flashlight. I didn’t know about this American company when I upgrade my Maglite. Wish I did.Thanks, Brian!
Yeah, these guys are the real deal
Thanks Brian. Sorry for your lost of your Dad.
He was a good man
In addition to the Malkoff working for the upgrading on the 6P, they work equally as well on the Z and C series SureFire lights and a few will work equally well on both the 6 and 9 volts lights but you've got to exercise caution with picking a Malkoff replacement light, it must be able to support both 6 and 9 volt! Granted, if the light is used in a 9 volt light such as a C3 Centurion, it will slightly shorten the life of the light as opposed to using it in a 6 volt light such as a 6P, C2 or Z2. This is due to the extra 3 volts causing the light to burn brighter than the standard 6 volts.
I've been using Malkoff for quite awhile and I love their products.
Whenever I watch your videos, I'm reminded of Bill Elliott. He used to Drive NASCAR back when I still followed it. I think he was from Dawsonville, GA.
Wild Bill from Dawsonville
Thanks for sharing God bless
great vid! i've got an old maglite that i've been wondering if it could be "updated" to LED. i will have to give these guys a call.
Thatt's really cool!
I thought so too
Thanks for the vid. I was just looking for which foreign LED replacement was best for the 6P but now I found a much better replacement for not that much more.
And keeping that vintage Surefire made in the USA (except for probably the actual LED which I don't think are even made in the US , which is a shame)
6P + Malkoff is great combination. I use sportac triple nichia led in my 6P
Thanks for the review! I have 3 old surefires I need to upgrade. I’d love to see a review on malkoff lights.
I’ll see what I can do
I need to get a pair of these...
Well Done Bryan, dragged that flashlight kicking and screaming into the 21st century. Of course back in the day 😇 not only did most of us not worry about lumen output, we went by perceived output, we hadn't heard of lumens I'm pretty sure converting my old 2AA mini maglite was got me hooked on LED flashlights
Yeah, but the percieved putput ofthe Malkoff is WAY more ;-)
@@SurvivalOnPurpose but of course
I have a 6P from about 2009 that I upgraded with a P60LED around 2011. I daily carried it for many years and it's even been on one tour to Afghanistan. Lately it's been starting to dim and I've been thinking seriously about a malkoff insert. Like you I'd like to keep an American product in it. Think I'll buy one tonight, Thank you for the video.
It is like getting a new flashlight.
Condolences to the family. I seem to have two Surefire that can use an upgrade...it's currently sold out. Thanks for the information.
I just spoke to Gene Malkoff. He should have more ready next Feb 11 or 12 next week.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Thanks for the update!!
Thank you Brian , I too own the surefire 6P which i bought when that model came out, back then i thought it was slicker than sliced bread i was impressed fine tool which works fine today .. I too made contact with Surefire and they said no they do no longer offer an LED upgrade for the famous 6P model as they offer the G2X Pro which is either 320 Lumens or 15 Lumens for under $60.00 so i ordered one , mostly it's constructed from a Nitrolan body except the head of the light .. Now with the gold mine you have found i can upgrade my famous 6P as i always liked that light which i still carry in the winter months ..I don't know how i ever got by 50 years ago with an Eveready 2 D cell flashlight with a PR bub ..Thanks again i will order one for my 6P
I talked to Gene Malkof last night. He should have more to sell by next Tuesday or Wednesday. There was a short delay in production due to a machinery upgrade.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Thanks Brian . I looked into Gene's site and see he was out of stock. I left my email so he can let me know when they have them in stock again.
Surefire 6P is a great host. And while the Surefire P60 incandescent actually is decent, a Malkoff M61 definitely is an upgrade. The beam character is very pleasant without artifacts and a smooth transmission between spot and spill. Not to forget the L and LL options for more runtime. I have a lot of them in different Surefire hosts and the most in 4000K option, which I personally prefer for the eye comfortability and color rendition.
Using your dad’s old flashlight 🔦 is like taking a step back in time to remember when... Shining the light on the past every now and again can be a good thing.
True
I love my classic surefires I have the malkoff m61l as well as the luminous sst20 single mode for mine I do have the p60l drop in from surefire and some really high output incans I can run up to 9v
Brian, thank you for this video. I have a old Mag Lite that belonged to my Dad. The light is very dim even with new batteries. Maybe they make a LED upgrade for that as well. Have a great day.
The do make several Maglight versions
I have one of his maglite drop ins as does a friend. An excellent unit.
Brian I don't even know if you read these things anymore I'm glad you got an upgrade for your daddy's flashlight that's pretty cool I've been watching your shot stuff New Vegas it looks like you had way too much fun LOL I like your steak and keep up the good work
I read every one Bill I just can’t reply to them all.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose I'm glad Brian you don't have to respond it's just that I used to know that big channels actually do listen to a little read with little guy has a say thank you for taking the time out to answer me though I like your Channel
Hello sir, thanks for video,I'm trying to find it from Greece
Thank you Brian. I have to Surefire lights that have the P60 bulbs. Now I no I can upgrade them. And your right back in the day 65 lumens was very bright.
Id like to see some tests about Malkoff lights please.
Ok
I would very much like to see the malkoff flashlights
Yes I'm with you do some reviews on his flash lights that might help him out that's just what you do
I try
When my father past away, I started carrying flashlight and pocket knife because that is what I always remember of him carrying.
I'm sure he would be proud
I remember going to Front Sight with my brand new 65 lumen 6P and doing night shooting. At the time I thought it was a freaking light saber! Haha! Now 1,000 lumens is the standard. I even have a 2,000 lumen hand held. I am glad I can upgrade that old warhorse!
It is a great insert
Cool
Indeed
Good job. Nice upgrade ⛪ Don't forget about the LIGHT of THE WORLD. JESUS. 😃
i'm going to check a couple local machine shops to have them milled out to handle 18650 batteries. i'll let you know how it goes. i have a couple Surefire 6P's and a Pelican or two i want milled out to 18650. PS I also vape and have several 18650 batteries around and a 21700.
Good idea, Bryan, I also have an older model Surefire with an incandescent head, and want to replace it. Unfortunately for now, the Malkoff product is sold out on Amazon, but I'll check back some other time. (Note: "Made in the USA. Some parts not domestically sourced.")
I think some of the electronic components may nit be available domestically. I talked to Gene Malkoff last night and he should have some more ready to sell in 3 or 4 days.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose That's good to know, thanks! It will be nice to upgrade my Surefire G2 Nitrolon.
Think that would hold up as a shotgun mounted light?
The fact that you're calling the 6P light "old" makes me feel old. Holy crap, we still use 3 of these around the house.
Incandesce it is so last century
I’m looking to upgrade to it lol
P60 Flashlights are great, they don't die, just change the drop-in module you're good to go.
Hi there! My name is Benny from HongKong First of all , thanks for sharing this video . I have a surefire 6P also and wanted to upgrade this flashlight for years but without a clue. could you please kindly tell me where I can find this Malkoff Led . I would appreciated it you can kindly help me .Thankyou so much !
I upgraded my old school L-shaped military flashlight with an Led bulb, huge difference.
yes it is
I have a 1187 with an older incandescent SureFire handguard light that I need to upgrade. Would you happen to know if it uses the same bulb as yours, it looks the same.
No but I’d you call or email Malkoff they can probably tell you.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose I have it apart and it has a P60 bulb.
I have that exact light
Cool
The 6P is fairly common.
I would love to see what flashlights or other devices Malkof has.
I’ll see what I can do
Why not visit their site?
What about the 1200 Lumens replacment sold on Amazon?
Chinese
The module is pretty good but the original is good to and way more versatile. Just because a light isn't as bright as the competition doesn't mean it isn't good. Check out Elzetta.
Not sure how it is more versatile but I do know incandescent bulbs are way more fragile
True, the Malkoff LED module is significantly tougher. It is also hundreds of lumens though which is a bit too much for close up work like reading and doing repairs on certain items, especially shiny ones. Better for defense though, I just wish they had a neutral white version and nicer LED. I picked one of these up today. We will see how it goes! 🙂
i did the upgrade but even with new rully charged batteries my 6p will go off immeciatly 30 seconds after i turn it on any thoughts??
No. Sounds like a question for Surefire or Malkoff
I have three maglites. I need to change over. Two of them take D cell batteries. And other one is a Mini Maglite. . Still good flashlights. Just need to be updated.
Check out Malkoff Devices
@@SurvivalOnPurpose I'll check them out.
I have several Maglites with Malkoff dropins. 2 cell model with Malkoff dropin is brighter than 6cell version of Maglite incandescent. Did you get any?
Great modification on your dads light. I wonder if it’s legal to do in California?😬
I think this would be OK ;-)
You wonder if upgrading/modernizing a flashlight is legal in California?? Well i don't live in California personally, however, i feel confident in speaking on behalf of every state in the union when saying that yes i believe its nationality permitted to possess, use, maintain (upgrade) any civilian level flashlights and probably most any military grade flashlights one might so happen to LEGALLY come in possession of... Just a hunch
Watching Tactical Response Low Light video on Libertv.com, James "rambles" about 6P in his early 90s police work. (At 36:00)👍😁
Defeats the purpose of having a surefire
I have no idea how that is true.m
At least it is an xp-g2. Get a couple 16850 batteries and you will get better performance
I’m pretty happy with the performance now
sold out!
I just emailed to find out when they will have more ready. They make them in house. Surely my little video didn't do that.
I just spoke to Gene Malkoff. He should have more ready next Feb 11 or 12 next week.
so the chinese jobs claim 1000-1200 lumens...i know they often mislead people in regards to MAH on lithium batteries...i highly doubt theyre that high lumens.
...
I have a 6p...
Cool
Great Vid The M61, M61N, M61W well work with a 3.7v 16650 but at reduced output . www.illumn.com 16650 & XTAR VP2 charger www.customlites.com made in North Carolina by hand The MALKOFF is very robust build solid .
Hmm
Kinda defeats the purpose when using the surefire filters. LED does not have the full spectrum of light so using the 6P with the red and IR filters that were designed for it only makes sense with the P60 bulb.