Why is no one talking about the REAL NBA MVP favorite?
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The hate on Luka is wild. His team is on a much better trajectory than the bucks, and his performances have rivaled Embiid's who was the favorite before falling out due to injury.
Mavs also have 3x more games missed to injury than the other top 5 in MVP race.
Edit: Not to mention Luka has played 40MPG with multiple injuries himself(Quad then Ankle) and literally has a broken nose right now 😂
The woke nba doesn't want to accept the fact that a white straight man like Luka is on pace of becoming the 🐐. Luka is already top 20 all time
@@rektz2457stop riding man. To be in top 20 you need some jewelry.
Ur not gunna get the MVP finishing in 7-8th now if they jump to 5 then yea he'll be considered
That’s all some nonsense bucks literally have the trajectory just not recently n Joel was plain out having a better season luka Shai Gianni’s n jokic all have a good chance at winning mvp
Melo not picking Jokic for MVP is most likely due to other reasons lol
#15😅. Melo crying bad
You think it was a petty maneuver?
100% lol 2020 ruined people 😂
Almost everyone who doesn't pick Jokic is doing it because he's white. Melo included. Has nothing to do with jersey numbers.
Melo should avoid any topic related to Jokic because any comment he makes will be associated with jealousy towards Jokic. Each new potential MVP and NBA title for Jokic is seen by Melo as a threat to his legacy. If he hadn't played in Denver, nobody would compare him to Jokic today and his career would be viewed with more respect. If he doesn't have something nice to say about Jokic as a basketball player, it's better not to mention him because he gives the impression of a frustrated person.
Luka is obviously mvp this year (since embiid is disqualified) if you actually watched the mavs season. If Luka just continues what hes doing and now that their team is healthy and the roster isnt trash all hes gotta do is get higher in the standings and he should be a lock.
It is unreal how hard he has carried the mavericks the last 2 years, playing tons of 48 minute games with a historical usage rate with a terrible unhealthy team. But they're healthy and hes got legit help now so the wins will be there
yeah dude, obviously. go put your money on it. Luka is +1,000 right now.
@@jonathansykes4986 Did you just stop reading after the first sentence?? 😂
7th seed needs to earn my view
@@dazgordon-hill2660 what???
@@astashasta1bro said he won’t watch them because they the 7th seed. Man Luka is more hated than Lebron was.
I’m being so serious when I say that Luka should win mvp this year. He’s arguably putting up better numbers in a more impactful manner than guys like Jokic and SGA, and I LOVE Jokic’s game. So this ain’t even to down play his work. This is literally a matter of Luka just being THAT GUY in the league rn
How is it more impactful with less wins?
@@mydogsnameislucy768because it’s a team game. No one seems to acknowledge the injury trouble mavs have had ALL season. Including kyrie.
@@SaKuL_W pretty weak excuse. Every team deals with injuries practically all season long. If Luka was more “impactful” than Shai and Jokic then the Mavs wouldn’t be a 7th seed. Lol
@@mydogsnameislucy768Mavs have had more team injuries than OKC and Denver tho. Remember when people were saying that when Joker won as a 6th seed?? Hell, Westbrook won as an 8th seed.
@@DG-gx8pn Westbrook is the reason we’re in this dilemma. Without his underserved MVP this wouldn’t be a conservation.
Luka should be mvp and I don’t think it’s a debate. Especially now that the mavs got gafford and pj they have a chance to start winning a lot more consistently
Luka is +1,000. Go put your money down.
@@jonathansykes4986should be but the media hates him. He will probably never win even if he puts up 40 a game.
facts like when dude at 4:25 talking about how he favors each player based on their own criteria, but luka can be applied to BOTH oh his reasonings
white guy 3 times in 4 years? Not going to happen
@@AVAXII 2005,2006,2007
Boy, the MVP conversations got a lot more chill, without the absolute vitriol spewed by the 76ers fans. Let the most valuable player win!
Let’s be real I’m not even a Sixers fan and even I would admit that the vitriol was coming from everyone else. People have been hating on Embiid for years now
@@rahspillz9726 nah sixers fans are really dogshit.
@@rahspillz9726 I'm not an Embiid hater, but Embiid did an interview last year where he took shots at his MVP opponent, lmao. They were responsible for all the drama and even for the freaking racial card being thrown by big Perk, lol.
@@OkieDoke-mo1cowell yeah he got robbed
@@OkieDoke-mo1co blaming sixer fans for the ever-changing MVP criteria is stupid. The MVP race all went to shit when they gave it to Jokic as the 6th seed, it clearly Embiid’s his team was better, he was dominating, and had the Ben Simmons storyline. That resulted in shitstorm last year caused by the media not Philly fans
Should be Luka if Mavs finish top 5.
tbh its about time these past 3 seasons hes been doing 2k numbers and still leading a competitive team in the nba and hes like 2 yrs older than me. Def the most valuable player in the whole nba to my eyes
All of thetop candidates are worthy, but the Luka hate is still real. The gatekeepers in the media really don't like that Luka is this good.
@@CahlilWessonnigga missed the playoffs they are not competitive
I like how you say top 5 because you know top 4 is unrealistic 😂 Too bad anyone out of the top 3 ever rarely wins it aside from Westbrooks MVP year
@@BestShootermanUbz Don't forget Jokic.
Its Luka
Not only Luka having a historic season (1st in scoring, 3rd in assist, 2nd best 3-point shooting, with 9 boards) but he's also carrying an ambulance of a team, an ambulance that many people would say is is not even particularly talented compared to other teams, his defense has also improved ALOT, most people who have watched would tell you that he has been a good defender(not elite but still) he's the best player in the league and this year MVP, he has achieved more than the other players with less
thank you, it's was hella shocking to me to see him being this far down in the list, there was even like 19 voters out of the 100 who didn't even put him top 5!!
Also the convos around him have been nasty, every time he does something positive espn spins it around and discredit him for it, every time a previous teammate of his does something positive outside of dallas he gets slandered for it, this was a much needed video to confirm for me that there are people out here who recognize what's he's doing.
i actually have this feeling that its not about race, but people being super salty about his comments how easy it is to score in this league, etc.
@@Mrt-yg9mwno one said it was about race what are you talking about
Luka not the mvp cause dallas is ass him and kyrie aint even make the playoffs last year aint nobody forgot about that 😂
He’s clearly got this bias against him and i don’t understand why
@@tyreerhodes2316what does last year have to do with being mvp this year?
not to mention, if you adjust missed time with that players WAR the dallas mavericks have been the 3rd most injured team in the league only behind the heat and GRIZZLIES. and 2 players who were starters for us this season are STILL missing time. luka's starting line up has missed 67 games and counting and two guys who have been absolutely huge for the mavs in this win streak, maxi and josh green they have missed 35 games and 13 games respectively. it is a MIRACLE that they are the 7th seed and a testament to how good luka is.
I wouldn’t be mad if either of them win an MVP. But I kinda want Luka to win imo. And I believe he can win it if they finish 4-5th in the west
With the 3rd easiest remaining schedule they could even reach 2 or 3 seed
I think the reason jokic isn’t gettin the fatigue tax is because a lot of people feel like he got robbed of mvp last year (I think embiid was totally deserving tho) and his playoff performance basically reset whatever fatigue tax he would’ve faced
Dallas has been one of the 3 most injured teams in the nba. They have had damn near 50 different starting lineups. If it hadn't been for injuries they wouldn't be 7th, not to mention they had the toughest schedule right when all the injuries happened. Kyrie has almost missed half of the season so far. And from now on they have the 28th easiest schedule
Most valuable player became, picking a great team with an impressive player.
Subbed. This is the most based opinion I’ve seen about the MVP race. Granted I’m a bit biased towards Luka, BUT I used to be a hater. I was such a hater I started tuning into every game so I would have detailed hate to distribute to the homies. I put him on TV and watched him disassemble nearly all of my favorite players. I watched him destroy all time defenders on the Clippers and all time offensive players on the Suns. He had the best individual performance last season. He has repeated it again this season. THIS GUY IS THE REAL DEAL. The most offense I’ve ever seen out of any player. I understand the hate he gets because I was on that side of the fence. I can promise you, not giving this guy his flowers now will result in a very tough conversation in the future when we discuss who got snubbed out of recognition during this era. Mind you, if Luka put up the stat line of your MVP pick, his numbers would likely take a hit. Cough cough SGA…
Yeah, if luka put up the averages of the other mvps his team would get notably worse.
I appreciate how fair you are in your analysis of players/ teams!
The Giannis disrespect is crazy I guess no matter what he does he will always get overlooked this dude has had voting fatigue for the pass 3 years but there willing to give Jokic another mvp just like that
Didn’t even get a mention in the vid 🤣🤣 it’s sad fr
He's simply just not as good as the others. Its not disrespect.
Stop @@dontAtMe69420
@@dontAtMe69420 how is he not as good 🤣 he’s arguably better than everyone he mentioned in the vid.
@@sinisterminds2559 telling the truth? sorry but thats not my problem you don't like hearing the truth. Game on the line Giannis is not even in the top 20 players I would want with the ball in his hands.
You’re such a great content creator please keep up the upload schedule. One of the best NBA CZcamsrs period.
Mavs have also been one of the most heavily injured teams in the league. Luka’s been doing this all season while missing key starters for the majority of it.
I mean whenever Luka does something either the media doesn't talk about it or they turn it into a narrative
how bout to be fair Luka has been in the hunt 4 years and is dissed. Where talking teams that have 5 or less wins than the other.
Subbed because you actually know basketball with ZERO bias! You need a job on ESPN!
The difference between Jokic and Luka is small enough in terms of stats (once you factor in efficiency and usage) to consider team success important. Now, if continues to dominate and Dallas ends up 5-6, then he probably is the MVP.
I’d like to suggest that the team record in the West means very little- look at how close the rankings are - 1-5 game difference is all that separates these teams right now. Also, Carmelo is making it personal with Jokic and his comments are biased. I’d like to see Luka in there- he’s been in the conversation the past 3/4 years, still getting better every year and has been keeping the team in the playoff range despite all the injuries.
Joker really could’ve won 4 back to back MVPs
If jokic outplayed embiid in their head to head matchup he would’ve got it for sure
@@flashgordon1541 Who knows what would happen if Embiid would play in Denver
I’m an OKC fan and my top 3 is the joker 1 SGA 2 and Luka 3 the joker got fucked over last year so hopefully he wins it this year if SGA doesn’t
@@flashgordon1541 no he wouldn't. MVP is not decided on head 2 heads. If it was SGA would be firmly in the lead atm. Jokic didn't win it bc the nuggets went on a really bad losing run to end the season. They even had a stretch where they lost 4 out of 5 games.
@@MmaMadman85they wouldn’t have a ring
The thing being left out of the standing conversation with Luka is the fact that other than Memphis (and maybe 1 more team) no team has had more missed time due to injury than the Mavericks. So the fact they are still right near the 5 seed and only 4-5 back of the 4 is a testament to his ability to carry
It is simply crazy that there is absolutely no talk about Luka Doncic this year, who should be pretty clearly the MVP this season. The Mavs are only 3 games behind the nuggets, despite having the worst injury luck of all teams in the NBA this season and having the inferior roster to start with, all that because of Luka. The man does it all, including defense this season and is definetely the most impactful player in the league, imo even before embiid got hurt. Now after the deadline and with everybody healthy, the Mavs look like the best offense in the league and like a real contender, Luka keeping them alive despite playing playing with several g-league caliber players as starters is ridiculous. If the Mavs finish top 5 in the west, which looks very likely if they stay healthy, there should not even really be a discussion.
Totally agree, Luka should be getting more consideration. The voters having him at 4 is egregious.
Luka is playing the best individual season this year, he is setting new personal records for almost any stat imaginable. Combine this with his very high usage rate, that's VALUE. He is running this team and it's not even close. Take Luka out and Mavs are nothing (no disrespect). Imho he has to contribute more to his team than other MVP candidates AND he is putting up these numbers. It's wild.
I'd love for jokic to get his third but what luka is doing right now is astronomically impressive. They're my two favorites for the awards for sure
Luka or Sha sounds bout right on who SHOULD be the mvp...
Lmao why? Why not Jokic?
Everyone should know Giannis is black balled at the end of the day the media decided they dont like him so there not pushing him, its all good tho
lol what.
@@jonathansykes4986 black BALLED
@@jonathansykes4986Giannis has being black balled since he decided to sign back with bucks and he only reinforced him being black balled by resigning again this past summer
Giannis is running away with MVP right now, the media reluctance to admit it is just voter fatigue, we will talk about Giannis and MVP the same way they talked about LeBron and MVP in the late 2000's and early 2010's
Low….this is why I love you man
When it comes to the MVP anything significant to the game of basketball will be accounted for. Just due to the fact that the talent is abundant in today’s NBA. Shai has been Winning with the best of them, playing elite on both sides of the ball,doing it with less help, surpassing the expectations placed on him and while leading and elevates his teammates a group of the youngest most inexperienced players in the league. He has also been available only missing 1 game this season. When you take all of this into account Shai is the clear MVP.
Hey LOW, real talk I want to see an OKC vs Clippers matchup come playoff time. Can you imagine if the Clippers were to be eliminated from playoffs by the same player they traded in order to get PG (who they needed to get in order for Kawhi to sign) and SGA is currently in MVP discussions.
It's actually crazy because i remember watching the clippers vs warriors in round 1 back in 2018 i think. I didn't really know who Shai was at the time but after that game i followed him on Instagram because i was like "damn this dude is gonna be a star" and it's crazy seeing him become this good.
As a Denver nuggets fan, ngl SGA is a problem. He's been one of my favorite players outside of Denver. Wouldn't be mad if SGA received the MVP.
He, along with numerous Canadian NBA players, lost to Serbia, a country of 6 million people who played without Jokic and three other players from the starting line-up. He still has a lot to prove as a player. He is in the top ten players and nothing more.
@@mlrd2687 that has literally nothing to do with the nba mvp award
Needed this 😁😁
The +/- speaks for itself. Jokic is just playing a different game than everyone else. In case you're wondering per 100 possessions with Jokic on the court the nuggets are +8.6, for Luka it's 2.8. And the on/off is even more lopsided.
Counting stats are nice, but you have to remember that what makes Jokic the Best is his efficiency. He's able to put up amazing counting stats WHILE allowing his teammates to shine. LeBron/Luka ball just can't be more valuable than that.
You’re a victim man lmao +/- is an absolutley abysmal stat to use for someone like Luka who quite literally rests a max of 2 minutes a game sometimes and had a completely injured roster the whole season
u know what fhat means? 😱 He is PLAYING with EVERY SINGLE ROTATION, INCLUDING HIS END OF BENCH PLAYERS, which NUKES a players +/-, it makes his on and off completely skewed
its an absolutely flawed stat when applied fo contexts , like this
Yoo Low another great vid great points. Luka not being in consideration is too crazy .Luka teammates been in and out all year
I appreciate someone finally acknowledging what he is doing.
Last yr Giannis averaged 31 11 and 5.7 assists with number 1 seed overall and Middleton missed 50 games. Jokic averaged 24, 11, and 9.8 assists and 4seed overall but they still voted Jokic over Giannis.
This yr, Giannis is averaging 30, 11 and 6 assists on 60% shooting. Dame isn't playing good. Middleton missing games and the Bucks still have a higher seed that the Nuggets but somehow Jokic has to be the MVP over Giannis.
And Low, you gotta be ashamed of yourself too for not even giving Giannis his credit.
Mavs have had twice as many injuries as OKC and DEN but nobody talks about that and I promise if Dallas faces OKC in the playoffs it won’t go 6 games in Dallas favor
Great video
The Giannis disrespect is crazy, he's having his best offensive season of his career and has been carrying his team the whole season.
I don’t think it’s disrespect to say that he is not among the three best players in the entire league
@@pleasestopcapping L thats huge disrespect
I think, in terms of value of contributing to winning, Giannis probably is the most valuable. The rest of the Bucks have been just ass, and Giannis has been a madman doing his best to will his team to wins.
Jokić is consistant; appearence and stat wise. Plain and simple.
@mrfathed3129 The rest of the Bucks look like the All-Star team when you see the rosters that have been around Luka most of the season.
I'm a huge Luka fan, so thanks for the Luka love... but... my main takeaway from all this MVP talk is that right now... in 2024... we are being treated to an onslaught of all time talented ballers!!!! I LOVE watching Luka, but I LOVE watching SGA, Joker, Giannis, Joel, and many of the other elite players we currently have in the NBA. I'm 67 years old, so I'm pretty damn sure that from now till the day I die I'll be able to watch a buttload of the best basketball I could ever hope to see... Thanks to the NBA...
My opinion is Luka literally just has to get like a top 4 seed, and hes won it. To say oh but its been opened up for like 6th seed to win it, that was for russ (in a pretty weak mvp race if we’re being honest) when he averaged a triple double first time since oscar, and then jokic not only had one of the greatest seasons ever, but he done it without mpj and jamal, if anything finishing as the 6th seed was seen as impressive, not “moving the goalpost” and i also just think that even though yes the scoring gap is there a) jokic is the more efficient scorer, and b) man you just watch jokic and its crazy how he puts up crazy stats without even that being his best attribute, jokic can dominate a game and have like 14/9/8, to me thats mvp, although if luka does get to a decent enough seeding, i cant lie i would give it to him.
Russ MVP had alot of competition that year
@@harrisbeard8715 definitely not, harden and kawhi were the closest but harden had like the highest turnover rate in history and kawhis nunbers were good but like, there are just way better seasons.
As Mavs fan man I'm pissed at our organisation they are straight up wasting Lukas time man. Luka+Kyrie have been awesome unfortunately Kyrie has been hurt. At least we got Gafford and Pj so it's looking good. If Mavs can clinch the 5 seed Luka has a shot at MVP. Dallas should get direct qualification to the playoffs now tho. At least that's good
Giannis not getting mentioned is crazy
Voter fatigue brother, otherwise Giannis would have 3 in a row and jokic would have 3 in a row
The man that treats the NBA like a side hustle might win MVP That's funny and crazy😂
big ass smile grew on my face once you said the actual most valued player knew it was luka right away
My question is what does Giannis have to do, like in all seriousness he’s playing ridiculous rn
He needs to be the first seed in the league along with beating every single top seeded team on national tv in stylish fashion. If we’re being honest the standard for Giannis winning mvp again is much more than the standard for jokic. As a Giannis fan it sucks but I would rather take the fmvp hopefully he can carry Coach Fraud Rivers like he did with bud the dud
Giannis is getting crazy disrespected imo cause maintaining that 2 seed despite having a terrible coach and Dame playing horribly should be getting more praise
3rd seed
They’re 1.5 games behind Cleveland for the 2 seed now. And the East is weak. Their biggest threats are the injured Knicks and the 6ers without Embiid
@@greekyoungbuck 3rd is great, TF you on? Luka the 8th seed
@@TheMissiIeIn a stacked west
Context matters a lot lmao
For real didn’t even mention his name in the video it seems no matter what Giannis does he will continue to be overlooked this man has had voter fatigue for the past 3 to 4 years but there willing to give Jokic a another mvp
I was originally hesitating between Embiid and Jokic... (before Embiid's injury) Right now, i'd say Doncic. But, i wouldn't be surprised if SGA or Jokic win it instead.
All I know is that it’s gonna be either Luka, Sga, or Giannis - n I’m fine w that
With the increase in offensive stats.. The voters have to factor if your team is at least** top 4 seed and you have decent stats..
Talking about Luka and standings is just WILD. You touched on 1 game difference from 5th seed but there is something else people don’t consider.
Before the trade deadline, there were only TWO teams in the ENTIRE LEAGUE with less than 5 players averaging double digit scoring.
Those teams were Golden State (4 players) and Dallas (3 players)
FURTHER, 1 of the 3 Dallas players (Kyrie) missed 50% of their games at that time. So Dallas consistently had 2 guys averaging 10+ a game
Then you look at talent. With Kyrie missing so many games, who is Dallas 2nd option? It’s Hardaway Jr. outside of Kyrie and Luka, no Dallas player would start for a contending team. Period.
And Luka has kept them in playoff contention. He has to average a 40 point triple double just for them to barely win without Kyries help.
I like your list and reasoning for it. Jokic is my fav player and luka my 2nd fav so I’m happy with their play. Right now the mvp has to go to SGA, but my vote will go to Jokic because I don’t know if SGA can continue this historic pace, I know Jokic can. I anticipate the nuggets turning it up in the 2nd half to make a deep playoff run and thus Jokic solidying his 3rd MVP, but as of right now I have SGA at 1. If Luka can finish top 3-4 seed while keeping this historic numbers and great efficiency I’ll give him the nod lol. Tough 3 man race lol.
Why would Jokic be ahead of Giannis or SGA??
I honestly HATE how they’re disregarding Jokic and Luka.. and let’s be real it’s because they’re foreign players. Those guys have put in the work and added so much to the league just for people’s narratives to mean more FACTS!
I agree with what you're saying might be behind these votes. After how the season ended, there was a lot of sentiment even among media who voted Jokic was robbed of MVP just to give Embid one and as a sort of "you need to win first before getting one". Well now he won so they're taking the opportunity to give him a make up MVP. And it's not like he doesn't have an argument.
Answer this seriously… Jokić is surrounded around guys who know how to cut to the basket and read the game well, while he’s in motion all he does is make a good read, and as a seven footer he should be getting 10 rebounds per game! Other than that what makes Jokic the best player in the world to win MVP this year, seriously answer that…. I don’t think you can give him the competitive edge over Giannis ? if the Bucks had consistent shooters instead of streaky shooters, Giannis would average 10+ assist a game as well. He already rebounds the ball at a high-level. And is extremely dominant on offense, arguably the most dominant player after SHAQ, so why is he being hated by the media so much? … Jason Tatum got eliminated from the playoffs the last five years with NO RINGS and they talk about him for MVP over Giannis when Giannis got eliminated last year due to injury, the year before because he didn’t have his other star player Khris Middleton… so what is the Giannis hate about? I’m starting to think the media is racist against Greek nation…. HES THE BEST PLAYER HANDS DOWN! This is ish is getting outta hand! He’s better than SGA in scoring rebound assist and blocks but yet SGA is ranked higher in MVP list. He’s better than Luka Dončić, with rebounds FG percentage, steals and blocks… he’s beating Jason Tatum and points rebounds assist and blocks… then again, why is he ranked for fifth in MVP candidate race?… does not make any sense… who is the boss some of these guys need to be fired!
People don’t talk about how much Chet improved the thunder. They giving sga so much credit when Chet is the reason they are 2nd
Finally someone being honest about the MVP race, what the haters gonna be saying when the Mavs close the season as a top 4-5 seed? Probably defense even though he’s actually gotten better on that end this season
How many games was he dominating against top 5-6 teams in each conference (especially west), and was any of that dominating done on the road??
I agree with a lot in this video. Unfortunately for luka all the top talented players are so close though, that he pretty much has to drag that roster to a 5 seed or he'll stay a distant 4th
How is Giannis not number 1 he’s 100% mvp look at the stats and how much he’s constantly been dominating the nba it’s nuts
you can say that for all of em
That’s everyone in the top 5. The reason he isn’t number one is b/c of the bucks trajectory as of right now
Because Jokic and SGA are better.
@@jonathansykes4986at the moment
@@jonathansykes4986Luka is better than SGA.
It's not even close.
Giannis putting average 31/12/6 on 61%fg and his plus minus is +17.9pg (1st) while being one of the best defensive players 😂😂😂yall wild af with this Luka and Jokic nonsense 💯
luka is a guard giannis a big man
61% off of 6 footers and lay ups woahhhhhhh amazing
Luka is the goat but I wouldn’t be mad if Giannis won it
Voter fatigue bro for Giannis plus yt glazing gets you that unfortunately
I mean, Jokic is on cruise control for the end of the season in the playoffs
I love this year's MVP race, super exciting. I love Luka but I would still give the mvp to Jokic, he is just too valuable, his numbers are amazing, he elevates Denver so much.
Look at the BPM/VORP by yr and relate it to the mvp and then comeback to the conversation before yall cry about Luka or anyone else. Luka has been amazing others have been better. It’s a tough race. He’s only 24 tho he’ll win one soon
Bro just compared Luka carrying Kyrie?? To Jokic carrying Facu Campazzo lmao
Campazzo was like a back of rotation guy lol. Kyrie has missed half the year too
Sga getting his flowers is beautiful
bro thank you its like people dont want to accept that luka is THAT guy, next face of nba
Bro how many channels do u have😭
Pete Leg Pete back at it again.
So im from South Africa and we don't really have basketball here and my question is , is it better to have your best player be a guard, wing or center?
Center
@@Peca-sz6yt why?
@@prince-iu4bl because when your best player is center you have so much more advantages, look at jokic, he is the best player in the league, but if you saw him yesterday for the first time you would never tell that he is the best. Center can dominate both offense and defense, center can be massive presence in post ups and if they are treat from 3p line it's over, not much guards can play under the basket. Centers can be playmakers too and be the best passers in the team, pg can't be the best center just look at jokic and sabonis. Skilled centers are the most valuable players in basketball, they are unstopable, shaq, hakeem, duncan, jokic, embiid, kareem, wilt are all the most unstopable players ever. Guards, wings are sexy but centers are most valuable it opens up entire court esspecialy for wings who are 3p shooters. Denver without jokic and with some low skilled center would be 1st round exit but when you got one of the most skilled of all time that group of regular players lets be honest they are not superstars, they become champions
@@prince-iu4bl kobe wouldnt win 5 rings without shaq, spurs without duncan hell no, denver without jokic lol, pau gasol was very important for kobe too, mj without rodman, detroit without ben wallace, houston without hakeem would never won, so having a skilled and dominant center or power forward is the most important thing in basketball
Centers / Wings are historically the most dominant players across history, if u loook at most peoples top 10 all time list you’ll usually only find like 4 guards max
I would like joker to get it being a Denver fan and native but sga is is killing it and they beat Denver i think 3 times this year
Shai is putting up prime MJ numbers on ridiculous efficiency and OKC is a top 3 team in the league. None of us expected it. Not sure how he wouldn’t be the front runner. Mitchell should get serious consideration, as well.
Tbh I think people are voting Jokic cuz they feel he got snubbed last year. I would've voted Jokic last year and Embiid this year but now I'd probably go Luka. I really like Shai but his performance the other night vs Luka turned me off of him a bit. But also I may be biased cuz I'm a Mavs fan.
Didn’t the Mavs just smash the Thunder. Luka should get the MVP. Not sure why people hate on this man
next level glazing
I could’ve sworn low at one point said something along the lines of “why do we have to continue too make mistakes based on wat was decided in the past” I love Luka he’s my fav player too watch but I’m not gonna give him the nod just cause Russ and Jokic got it when we all agree those were mistakes
Giving the mvp to Jokic was not a mistake. LMAO..
@@jonathansykes4986 ok maybe mistake was too harsh but Jokic and Russ are the 2 names I hear most when it comes too them not being fully deserving of mvp. I think it has too do with them putting amazing numbers that were never before seen but then they did the same thing the season after and made it seem less valuable which makes fans feel like a 6th seed mvp isn’t as deserving
I still love Luka and he should for sure be top 3 easily and as a talent he might be top 2 but I’m not budging off the record
just going off advanced stats, Jokic 1, SGA 2, Giannis 3, Luka 4th, this year.
The only "stat" that Luka has is PPG and USG% over those 2. @@jbmheat
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1. Luka’s also generating the most ppg ever lmao
2. Usage is such a petty thing to bring up, u know why his usage is high? probably cause his entire team was injured, his starting lineup up until last week quite literally didnt share 100 min on the floor together up until their 50+ game
3. U quoting “stat” as if its not LITERALLY a stat is insane lmao Luka’s also leading in WAY more stats than the just those 2 idk what ur on or looking at,
including “advanced defensive stats🤓” as u would say
4. Advanced stats are an absolutley cooked stat to use for an injury riddled teams, Luka’s on and off’s, +/- , etc get nuked cause he has to BACKPACK his team and play the entire game, and i mean the ENTIRE game he will literally play 46 of 48 minutes, when ur playing with every possible lineup it skews ur impact
You can collect stats at the price of wins.
I should of finished the video before I commented 😂😂
The reason there is no voter fatigue is because of last year many people feel like Jokic lost to voter fatigue and the stupid media takes like perk. And since Embiid is injured and can’t win it and Jokic is being Jokic it’s hard not to give it to him. But moral of the story is Luka better.
It was today when I realized Lebron gonna leave the league in great hands. Shai, Luka, Jokic, Ant, Tatum(?), Giannis, Wemby. There’s just so much talent now and even tho we’ll miss the Goat, we just have so much great matchups to look forward to
They make it seem like the Nugs and Thunder are 10 games up on the Mavs. The Thunder are 6 losses ahead of the Mavs and were the healthiest team in the NBA. Luka carried the Mavs thru shit ton of injury and is just 4 to 6 games behind with now a healthy roster and a weak schedule ahead. MVPs are chosen at the end of the year yet they are already conditioning the minds that Luka with a 34 9 9 average has no shot 😂
Jokic is escaping voting fatigue because of last year. People chose Embiid, it was controversial, Jokic got a ring while Embiid didn't get to the ECF... (yeah.. Playoffs doesn't count for MVP voting but it confronted the MVP decision).. And there was also some ridiculous narratives that were brought up, like Jokic stat padding, Jokic being elected because of racism... It felt lik "it should've been Jokic" and it's kinda countering voter fatigue
About MVP, now we have Dallas with health, and one of the easiest schedules of the league, they'll surely climb up the standings. It´s going to be hard to vote against if Dallas get a 5th seed
Seeding isn't a huge factor I agree but it does factor. The only reason lower seeds have won it in the past is because of their insane stats. When Russ won as the 7th seed he averaged 31/10/10 as a 6'3 guard. To this day no one is averaging that. It was historic. Tbh, toss the top 4 guys names in a hat and pick one, they all have a case. The only narrative I don't understand that's being pushed is Tatum. He shouldn't even be in the conversation with the other 4.
Should be Luka, he's carried the heaviest load, but they won't give it to him. Luka put up 2 games this season that rank in the top-20 all time for best gamescore. *Hopefully Luka will take Finals MVP instead.*
It's crazy how many excuses they come up with to try to keep Luka out of the conversation.
Joker been the best player in the NBA for 5 years. The only reasons he doesn't have 5 MVPs is because Embiid got one during this time and Giannis snuck in there too. Me personally Luka been right there as top 3 every year tho
As far as voter fatigue, Jokic didn’t win it last year when he should have, and he proved that by steamrolling to a title. So there’s a bit of counterbalancing because of that
Giannis is the mvp I’m getting annoyed people aren’t giving him his credit I’m sick of being a fan of the nba and I actually don’t think any of these awards even matter anymore
Jokic keeps his advanced stats domination for a 4th season in a row. No wonder he is #1 MVP candidat. SGA follow his steps. Luka is a great player but he is a stat padder same as Embid. Deffensive rebounds, assists while being #2 turnovers in a league, records in Atlanta. I don't know guys, maybe i have a weird look on "valuable to the team" meaning but if you need to put 73 to W in Atlanta, how much you will need in Conference Finals? 100ppg?
Crazy that 2 guys with Serbian blood in their veins are considered Top 5 MVP candidates! (Luka's grandfather is Serbian).
Do not be surprised if Luka ends up playing in Denver with his good friend Nikola...as both have stated this possibility with Jokic saying he will not leave the Nuggets. Imagine that scenario! (League office will hate it because Denver is far away from either coast...lol)
As far as MVP goes...Jokic all day long. Subtract Jokic from the Nuggets and they are a play-in team...subtract Luka from the Mavs and they are still a 5-8 seed. Jokic IS the Denver Nuggets, not only with his play, but because he raises the play of his teammates. Luka is more of a one-man show, while Nikola is the lead actor, director, choreographer, and producer of the show...all rolled into one man. The man is the epitome of an NBA unicorn!
Bro Gianna’s luka and sga not being in the running bc the last 2-3 years it’s been the same 2 people like it’s aggravating no matter how much they do it doesn’t matter.. they stat pad like a mf and always get the ball almost every possession… maybe do per possession
Melo saying Shae id just jokic hate for the number 15
I’m an OKC fan and I agree like it’s close but the joker is a god it’s his to lose
When jokic was the 6th seed he was missing his 2nd and 3rd best player