Eamon Dunphy : The rise of Anglophobia and why RTE didn't want him - Ireland Unfiltered Podcast
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- Ireland Unfiltered Episode 8 Dion Fanning interview with Eamon Dunphy
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Dion Fanning is such a perceptive and engaging interviewer. This is so good.
Love Eamon. His biography The Rocky Road was brilliant.
I lived in England, north and south, for five years, and am married to an English woman. Any one I encountered in England had an affection for Irish people, but they knew nothing about the country. One asked me was their Queen our Queen? She had no idea what a republic was. They always referred to the Republic of Ireland as "Southern Ireland". One company had SI as the abbreviation. I never received any abuse for being Irish, except ribbing for my accent and being fond of a drink. Being Irish in the South, no one cared. They had Bangladesh, South African, Sri Lanka staff, Irish was pedestrian. In the North (Manchester) I made really good friends really easily, as the northerners are exactly the same as the Irish: great with words, love slagging, great sense of humour, always up for a laugh and nothing taken too seriously.
There is hardly any difference between the average UK person and Irish person. These massive differences exist only in our Governments: the Irish government are bogmen, the British Tories are toffs, massive difference.
The average British see Ireland as like Wales. They know where it is, they know people from there, but they have never visited it because why would they? It's right there and not very different to where they live.
I lived in England North and south as well for a couple of years and I can confirm that I would agree fully with your analysis. When I was working for a company in London they refused to accept that a northern ireland bank account I had was a UK account. I had to go on the bank of England website which listed all of the banks under their jurisdiction and email it to them to prove that it was. That's how much that person knew about Ireland.
@MsMissy Apologies, I meant English not British
@MsMissy My point was the English see Ireland as being like Wales. They assume it is very similar, guess what it is very similar. Hence why would they fly there.
Really enjoyed this interview Dion. You’re a very good interviewer. I also like Eamon Dunphy👍
One wonderful interview. First time I've seen Dion Fanning in action, he's one fantastic interviewer, he never interrupts, he hands over the microphone to the person he is interviewing. I really enjoyed this.
His podcasts for Joe are excellent. Check out the Joe Brolly one ! Dion did / does a lot of work for Newstalk OTB football coverage
@@gavintuesday4959 Thanks for the tip Gavin looking forward to listening to Joe Brolly.
Respect to this fella....
Great to hear an Irishman talking with such balance about Britain
Really enjoyed that - great work
Thanks for the kind words Conor
Outstanding interview, this.
Brilliant ,compassionate and honest summary by Eamon there .
Interesting that Dunphy feels a kinship with the people of Liverpool and that many other Irish people also share a fondness for our city. Given that we look and sound so alike it's not surprising really, but it's always nice to hear of the affection many Irish have for us Scousers. The feeling is certainly reciprocated.
100% pal, always feel most welcome in Liverpool, great city, great people
Well said fooking luv that city.
Liverpool was considered Ireland’s second city by the Irish for obvious historical and cultural reasons. The Irish emigrated in droves to the city and surrounds . There’s a genuine bond for many, hence the huge support for both Liverpool FC AND Everton (yes, not so much now, but it was there in the 1980s)
The best people in Britain, a really friendly welcome guaranteed.
Red or Blue 💚☘️💚☘️💚☘️
We need more like this, Dunphy, Giles etc won't be around forever, none of us will
Dunphy nailed it at the end. The modern media fools today ain't shit.
Dunphy knows the English people are good...the people and the goverment and the crown are entirely two separate things and shouldn't be thought of as one
Great interview Dion. Love him or hate him, Eamon sure is interesting.
i thought you meant love or hate Dion Fanning. He epitomizes the smug scoffing i'm an outsider but is actually an insider that reigns supreme in the Irish media.
@@madforit2 fanning ? Far from it despite his accent and his background . Eamo ? Lol, he’s street. Hmm. Smug wouldn’t be something one could describe him. His podcast The Stand is great
Very enjoyable.
Dion is a good lad I used to read him when he was trying to stand up for Rafa at Liverpool. I don't always agree with Eamon but I agree with his character and method, if not all of his opinions, all of the time.
Eamo haha he's great entertainment. Ah miss the days of him & Giles and Bill on rte. Damn shame they're not there anymore
They were well past their sell by date. New pundits were needed to stop the conversation being predictable, like it was in the final 3+ years
As a nationalist from the north, this chat from Eamon reinforces an idea that those in the south could not care about the northern people.
When Eamon spoke to Martin McGuinness before his death his attitude was totally different. Dunphy is a clown who changes his mind depending on whom he is speaking to. Beneath contempt
Met him in 2010 in a Dublin nightclub. He was enjoying himself and seemed like a decent guy.
hes a coke fiend
#OfficialIreland 👍Love it.
I left Ireland in the early nineties and the last thing I saw on TV was a drunk & boorish Dunphy on the Late Late Show shouting about Roy Keane. I returned 17 years later for a family funeral and turned on the tv to see a drunk & boorish Dunphy on the Late Late Show shouting about Roy Keane.
Not sure if that says something about him or the country.
When will " Rocky Road " post 1990 be published ? 🙏
I was enjoying that interview 14 mins in, until dunphy started playing down a U.I. how dare he. I turned it off.
Eamonn "delightedly" has always been unfiltered.
Dunphy the biggest legend ever, rte a shambles last night without him
Stop doing drugs son
Rte are fake news
Do we now need to set up a sort of internal review like the Italians did in order to develop more home grown talent and get the best use of the granny rule to increase the chances of success for the national team?
He's about as trustworthy as a glory hole in a butcher shop.
rue de bac nah at least he has morals
Good interview but as a Scot the continual references to England and the English when really British or the U.K. is the subject at hand is beyond infuriating! Anti-Englishness is one thing but the England is not a state - the U.K. is and that is not populated by the English alone. The empire and Bloody Sunday were not English but British acts.
Im irish and I agree, it must be annoying for the scots and welsh to hear people say "england" when people really are talking about the UK or the "brits" as a state.Must be pretty demeaning to them.
I hear multiple people here in ireland talk about england when they are actually referring to the UK.(most continental europeans also do this)
This is pretty ironic seen as we tend to get super sensitive (and rightly so) offended to the core when ignorant people call us british by accident. I despise this kind of ignorance so I always try to use the terms British,UK,England,Scotland,Wales when its correct to do so. Dont even get me started with americans they really havnt got the slightest clue😂
@@jonathanboland7962 Im English and I dont like when people refer to English domination of Ireland...
Fair comment David.
@Jake Chong 🤦♂️
The Irish people need to understand the English people and the British government are two separate things...Liverpool Manchester Birmingham Sheffield Leeds London those cities are full of people with Irish blood...many Irish came to live and work here and we got on no problem..all English workingclass are a mongral people we are no blue bloods and the Irish people need to understand that
Eamonn is one of a kind
Big revelation in here regarding the higher ups in RTE asking Eamon to go easy on Martin O’Neill. He was right to leave after such interferences.
They also told him to take it easy on Pep.
It's bullshit, because the MAN U fan boys at Montrose let him rip the piss out of Rafa in 2005,2006,. 2007 etc.
Suddenly, that changed.
Man U fan boys.
He didn't go easy on big jack so why should he go easy on Martin?...Martin can handle it anyway ffs
Dunphy's a Red? Haha my head has just fallen off, he's kept that well hidden. Well in Eamo.
His comments about United are correct but it's not just United it's English Football full stop. Including Liverpool
He speaks some sense but is beyond patronising when he goes on about Irish independence, its perfectly viable and would be a good thing
Used to like him but with comments like “why should the UDA or UVF go away with the threat of reunification looming” was really repulsive. Came across as a bit of a dick
surprised Gerry Ryan didn't come up
The Sunday Independent was never a great newspaper
It's true you know...Irish and British relationship is way more close and intimate than Irish American relationship, for example. Or Irish and anyone else neither
We have so many quirks in common. Excessive tea drinking, excessive binge drinking, queuing etiquette, not liking to complain about poor service, bad teeth, rooting for an underdog so you won't be disappointed if they lose. Haha.
@MsMissy get over yourself. Coming across as an idiot. You can't speak for everybody.
@MsMissy Well tbh I'm very happy it's not like that in mainland UK. No animosity, everyone lives peacefully side by side. Wonder why it's like that over there?
@MsMissyMost of my friends are English, and after 35 yrs of friendship, I know them very very well, same as they do me. So I don't necessarily agree with that statement atall.Segregation is very alive in NI, schools etc, also indoctrination of children on both sides .
@MsMissy What are you replying to
He talks alot of sense .
Football comments on Liverpool and United fans and authenticity are way out. How often does Éamon go to Anfield
Dunphy is right. Fianna Gael are so out of touch with the real world. Time to burst the bubble (Their bubble)
Bauplunk 💯
“You cannot build your nation on the basis of a grudge”
Hate Joe.ie but this interviewer is great and I'd watch it just for him. Great content.
No mention of Chappaquiddick??? Quite a big event to not speak about imo.
Eason does waffle on, usually wrong on most things and anyone he disagrees with he belittles and insults because he can't defeat them through debate. If there is a border poll and democracy votes for a united ireland deal with it.
There’s absolutely NOTHING incorrect in his assessment on the fact that a United Ireland is Mike’s away and that most Southerns would NOT vote for a UI at this time , no chance once they realise the economic , culture and security problems . Deal with it , he’s right . He echoes precisely what most Southerner’s think
@@gavintuesday4959 Eamon had a bad track record on prediction and he's been in court for it also, we'll have to agree to disagree I think southerners will vote for a united Ireland even given the cost and we've done things like that before the financial crisis, covid etc we're not afraid of financial sacrifice as much as you think.
Eamon is right a boarder poll would do great damage to North and South
Ya baby
Clever enough guy with some interesting insights but quite pretentious sometimes with a chip on his shoulder probably due to him not making it as a top player.
Dunphy wholey behind ff now by the sounds of it. A long way from his rant on the late late show a few years back. He supported sf then.
Dunphy is a phoney.
He's bang on about FG too -Thatcherite wannabes.
Difference is FG pretend not to be and are good at pretending they aren’t, Thatcher was straight out. I know what I’d rather hear
A man with his priorities right.....
I understand now why this person (Dunphy) has had such a long and successful career in the establishment Irish media. He is a partitionist.
Fully agree with Eamon dunphy just glad I don't pay a TV licence
Dunphy's analysis is unrivalled in its insight and honesty.What a breath of fresh air versus the banal pish of Linekaer, Shearer, Wright and the shite of Sky Sports. Only true football fans will appreciate him.
Wright wasn’t bad. Remember , he left punditry for a while because of his views .
he talks alot of sense but the truth is the power and money people dont want change because they will lose out. Its a shame that we give them the power in the first place the world is fucked with the current system its pretty simple to see
Never understood the outright dislike for someone who offered a difference of general opinion. His downfall is that he often at least seemed to say whatever got a rise. He revelled in that though. He also took a dislike to things that he didnt succeed in or wasnt embraced within. The FAI are a sh!t show but Dunphy's belief that himself Giles and Brady should have been consulted on everything on Irish football was arrogant. Yes they may have had valid opinions on the game but in the admin? He could have championed reform of League of Ireland rather than be so dismissive - his abortive Shamrock Rovers project with Giles meant the blinkers firmly went in place. He should have used that experience to shout from the rooftops how poorly the FAI was run, not roll up to John Dleaney's birthday parties and now when Delaney has been outed as a spoofer I dont hear too much of Dunphy do much bar distance himself!
Rod Liddle’s nemesis..
Good man Eamonn there is also over a million nationalists in the six counties and the provos havent gone away either.
The Provos are too busy working for Mi5.
not a good interview a great interview
Glad you enjoyed it Patrick!
Giles was kind of lazy in fairness. I recall him regularly being unfamiliar with players outside the Premier League and the big international players. He used to just say words to the effect of "I don't know about this player/team cos we haven't seen them etc" He didn't seem to make much effort with research.
In fairness to Giles, I'd rather he would say that he didn't know about a player than some of the donkeys pretending that they are familiar with a player. Some of the guys on Sky are terrible on this point outright making up things as they go along.
Sorry, can't subscribe but love watching the interviews, Joe Brolly is a great loss to GAA analysis,as is the Bill O'Herlighy crew. Dunphy is right about RTE, Ipull my hair out at the questions not asked on Prime Time, the Prime Time Specials is very important but it's amazing how it goes completely unnoticed in RTE's own news programmes when Morning Ireland doesn't pick up on the revelations it broadcasts like the consultants total abuse of their contracts with the HSE and the money they were making from it. Nothing was aID IN THE dAIL OR CONSEQUENT MEDIA COVERAGE . They committed blatant fraud and nothing was done about it. Like what they called the "Mortgage Scandal". That was criminal and bankers should have ended up in jail. It's no wonder we have the government we have that doesn't care about poverty and spent the last week going on about ethics and election contributions. Big business always supports political parties that will implement the policies that will keep them in power, politicians/big business,always go together. I was just imagining the other day if Noel Brown was alive today listening to the health debate, he'd probably croak on the spot. Being a poem and writer myself I croak every day and really should stay away from the news and go and watch swans to stay sane.
great interview until the LFC shite was brought up
Peter Breen how’s that worked out for ya. Gtfoh
RTE's football coverage has turned into MOTD - garbage safe shite.Not worth watching.
Thankfully, Eamon has John and Liam on his podcast each week, which is a great listen.
Eamon is wrong that colonialism was so terrible. There would be no Sydney today without it, no Singapore. No New York. The modern world today is largely the result of the British Empire. Apart from that though I applaud Eamon's charitable attitude towards the English
@msmissy6888get a brain and learn history.
Dumpy has flip flopped on so many issues so many times, that you can't take anything he says as genuine commentary.
Tomherbs bollox...Listen to him and open your eyes.
Name one
I agree...Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy Keane, Mick McCarthy....a complete fucking flip flop
is there something wrong with changing your opinion?
He confuses the shit out of me.
I like Dunphy as a sports’ commentator but Dunphy as a Social Justice Warrior, no thanks!
53:00 the irony
Wrong ,,,it was the British Working and Middle class that voted for Brexit... So get over it ,,
Protesters in Hong Kong are today standing outside the British Embassy and singing God Save the Queen. The only country England treated badly, genuinely badly, was Ireland.
@Damian No, just Ireland.
Get over it, the English ruling classes treated the English no better.
@@GTJ65 what?
@@TheGodAlmighty Yes it was and what has that got to do with Murder Rape and theft of other peoples?
@@TheGodAlmighty from your initial post you implied that the English brought law order and civilization to the Irish. They did not.
Ireland eh.
Disgusting opinions on the reunification of Ireland from both..talk about a total disregard for Northern Nationalists
Flip flop dunphy
We aren't a million miles from consent. Dunphy wrong there. SF are entitled to pursue there political objectives as long as it is done peacefully. Having said that, I do think a border poll should be put on the back burner until after Covid and after the full implications of Brexit have caused the UK enough negative consequences in the north so as to encourage even further support for unification. Where Dunphy is correct is that they are our nearest neighbors, I do not hate them. I hate their legacy. But ordinary everyday English, Scots, Welsh aren't too blame for that. We have no future in that. I say this as a Corkman whose father was discriminated against in Belfast, I say it as a person who went to Uni in Wales, loves Cork city but also Tottenham Hotspur in equal measure.
I actually was a junior at Utd. with Eamon in 1963.
He talks a lot of sense. But he is wrong on Brexit. It wasn't the "toffs" as he calls them that brought about Brexit. It was the democratic decision of the British working class who had suffered the most from EU membership. Most of the rich "toffs" voted remain.
English people believe in freedom to make our own decisions, for right are wrong, and that should be respected.
And how’s that working out for you, gammonhead?
What about your people in the North Eamon?
This man speaks a lot of sense. If the failed lesson of trying to bomb and shoot Unionists into a one-nation Ireland hasn't been learned, then it never will. Democracy must always prevail.
Unionists quick to ignore democracy when it doesn't suit them, the setting up of the illegal uvf in 1914 for example🙄🙄
Irish always banging on about Britain... Nothing new.
@MsMissy Not sure I find it weird. Many Irish jump for joy anytime anything goes wrong in Britain. It’s just old & boring. Meh.
By far better than the bland tripe that gets served up in England. Get him and Keano on the same panel for United games, that'd be interesting. For what it's worth you need a proper hack as well an ex footballer on the panels for me and he ticks all boxes. They are paid to give opinions, not the usual cliches of he'll be disappointed with that one. I'd like to see him rowing with Neville as well
Leo wants everyone to stay poor
39.20 His Excellency, the President of Ireland / Uachtarán na hÉireann Michael D. Higgins
This is a great interview. I’d never heard of this guy and I’ll be looking him up.
He talks great sense with respect to the Republic’s relationship with the UK - same language, same sports, same musical tastes, and essentially the same culture - and pans asinine anglophobia.
He’s off the mark with respect to Brexit.
Brexit is driven by the UK working class - witness Labour’s humiliation in the December election when the working class rejected Labour’s remain stance - and it is not driven by the aristos.
The British and the Irish are cousins. It’s time to bury this family squabble.
Great! Can't wait for you guys to join us as a republic!
If the Irish and the English have the same culture, why are the Irish so pro-Palestine and the British so pro-Israel?
An hour long. Come on lads break it up into 15 to 20 minute segments.
Thanks for the feedback @wolftone6
JOE.ie should be 2 hours. Dunphy is a genius. Very under appreciated. Great interview.
Why... Dip shit
Good. Interview but why does keep bringing up bertie. Ohern and the party he repentance. They were the scum of Ireland
Varadkar right wing?? No Eamonn, wrong.
Shane Gallagher ur comment clearly hasn’t aged well.
Considering the countless millions tortured/enslaved/murdered all across the world by them, Anglophobia is a very justifiable fear
They’re talking absolute bollox about anglophobia, total rubbish
A decent skin, but he'd do anything for attention.
Eamons a big plonker
Liverpool football club:sing for 2 mins at the start of the game
And 2 mins at the end of the game
Yet you will be made believe that the anfield atmosphere is"special"
Liverpool 4-0 Barcelona
There's the proof.
Ok 👌 manc tell me in where’s better in the prem.
Thirty years ago I was a motorcycle courier. We were very often treated with contempt by people in the various offices we had deliveries for. Eamon Dunphy was not like those people, he treated workers like couriers, with respect. I know this because I often had deliveries for him. But his political views are not progressive and his narrative derives from a British perspective. In that sense he is a traitor to Irish independence, he is a victim of revisionist politics and like others of that sort he has derived a good income from the openings such a political stance brings, especially in journalism. I do detect in him though, a slight shift, not much as he is still speaking from a pro-British standpoint. The slight shift is simply reflecting the inexorable decline of the British empire and its hold on the north of Ireland. Eamon is probably becoming a post-revisionist, gradually finding himself out of step with the historic reality, and finding himself to be some kind of contemptible relic wearing his British empire poppy. And despite Eamon's sympathies for the working class and his allusions to socialism, he wears a British poppy commerating the murderers of Ireland's great socialist leader, James Connolly.
mikki3562 I seem to recall Eamon once writing in the Sunday Independent that if there was ever a United Ireland, he’d join the UVF. Perhaps this was a throwaway remark that was of its time, but it struck me as odd given his left wing views on a lot of topics. Shame he shilled for O’Reilly and co.
@@TheLastAngryMan01 Yes you're right, there is a contradiction between those left-wing allusions spoken and the vicious right-wing support of British imperialism. But Eamon is not unique in that respect He adopted revisionism which was a school of thought inserted into the political landscape to counter republicanism in the 1980s. In many cases British intelligence agencies financed and sponsored the various revisionist projects. In particular revisionism was consolidated into the universities, again to counter the spread of nationalism and republicanism. And as Irish left-wing groups tended to be mostly appendages of British ones, they conveniently tailored their left-wing politics to suit a British and Unionist perspective. This is also evident with the left-wing groups represented in the Dail, all of them supported Brexit and campaigned for it in the north. Even beyond the Irish context, the Irish left-wing groups, like their British fellow travelers, maintained a pro-British, pro-Nato political line in Libya and Syria, and they still do. In the end however, it really isn't surprising that British intelligence would have a preference for left-wing elements as a vehicle in Ireland for their work of influencing the political stratosphere in favour of Britain. I believe the situation may be changing though, and the strategy is wearing thin. People like Eamon and the so-called liberal elite, individuals like Fintan O'Toole, are running against the historical truth and are being found out for what they really are: supporters of British colonialism, supporters of Orange death-squads, and apologists for imperialist genocide and oppression. I know Eamon would deny this, but actually it is patently clear when you put aside the likable things he says regarding working people and so on. You can bet too, he was in cahoots with others of that ilk, a certain B. Geldof et al. but he wouldn't ever disclose these things.
mikki3562 Quite a few on the payroll on reckon, Eoghan Harris, Conor Cruise O’Brien, Ruth Dudley Edwards, Mary Kenny, pretty much all of INM.
And how could I forget the Colonel himself, Kevin Myers. All conspicuously silent on the British state’s collusion with loyalist death squads, of course. Very vociferous on republican atrocities though.
@@TheLastAngryMan01 You're dead right! There was always far more MI5 actors in Dublin than there ever was in Belfast. Essentially anyone in journalism could have their career chances enhanced with the possibility of progressing to one of the big British outlets, including the BBC and Sky News, by becoming an asset in the MI5 domain. Of course it's not done in a formal way, it's done informally and through social and business means. It's no accident that all of the big names in RTE are vociferous opponents of republicanism, pretty much along the same psychotic lines of O'Brien and Harris. I believe it's a simple fact, that if you are Irish and you want to work in the British media you must first pass through an MI5 vetting system, and you retain these contacts along the way. Recently, veteran journalist and broadcaster Olivia O'Leary quite out of the blue while giving her anecdotal talk during the news programme, Drivetime, on RTE Radio 1, called on the Irish government to accede to the British and Unionist position on the backstop. It was meant to be a nice anecdotal chat, but it was completely central to the political situation vis-a-vis the deadlocked situation between the Irish and British governments. This would be surprising and even appear to be out of step, or even out of order for a journalist to attempt to speak against the government and the entire Irish political establishment at such a sensitive time, that is unless you didn't know that the same journalist had spent many years working for the BBC before returning home, and in all likelihood maintaining friendships with her old chums in the BBC. I think if anyone doubts what you and I are talking about, they should have a look at Bruce Arnold's recent diatribe against Ireland in the British Daily Telegraph. I don't know if he and Eamon are friends but I would hazard a guess that they would have met at some time or other at one of the soirees hosted by MI5 though under a different name of course.
Someone should educate Dunphy on the real reasons why Irish soldiers joined the British army and Britain's actual contributions to WW1 and WW2
He’s is talking complete rubbish. Bloody Sunday was 1972, not 1969. And for the record, my disdain is for the 17.4m mostly tabloid reading English voters who never gave 2 hoots about how their perceived sense of oppression would impact the north. As with Trap and Andy Reid, in his own words, Dunphy is ‘wrong, wrong, wrong!! ‘ 😂
let me guess, Dunphy cried.
It's ok for a man to cry.
Dunphy crys more often than gazza for christ sake attention seeking outdated pundit gotta stay in the limelight at all costs,sad eamonn bring on the tears dunphy .