Which Shaft Flex Should YOU Use...Don't Go Wrong! (so many do)
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- Which Shaft Flex Should YOU Use? Don't get this wrong as this can have massive impacts on your distance, and i do see a lot of golfers go wrong with this! Which Shaft Flex Should YOU Use?... Don't Go Wrong!
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*What shaft are you using currently? Will it change after this!?*
Regular though I’m on the cusp of regular and stiff.
I am stuck on the border line and am not sure what I should do. I wonder if that is part of the reason I can have a 10 yard distance difference from day to day.
Recently fit a Denali Black 60s in my Callaway Rogue MAX LS. Like it, but as my swing speed is getting closer to 110MPH, I just fit in a Kai'li White 70x to see what difference it makes.
Diamana S63 (x-stiff) in the driver, UST Mamyia elements golf 6F4 (a "robust" stiff) in the 4 wood, KBS tour 130 (x-stiff) in the irons. Won't change, I'm very happy with them and if anything I tend to over spin and loose balls to the left, but that's more path related than shaft.
@@mandooakes8509 tipping is an option
I’m a 78 year old with a swing speed of 83 mph. I replaced my Callaway Rouge STMax CYPHER 40g driver with Callaway’s AI Smoke Max Fast. It also is a 40g but the club feels lighter and “feels” better. I also went from 10.5* to 12* loft . Ball now launches higher with a slight draw and I’m hitting more fairways! Many things such as kick point and the dynamic loft in addition shaft weight must be considered. Great video!
Maxfast is a great line up from Callaway
Getting better results with an A shaft, 48 inches, with my Ping G430 MAX, delofted to 9 degrees.
I have done exactly the same thing
My club head speed is between 115-117 so although I enjoyed hitting with a regular flex for years…switching to stiff helped me hit the ball straighter and more consistent off the tee.
I bought a new Cobra LTDX a couple years ago. Got fitted for a stiff shaft. The fitter said I was in between a stiff and x stiff. Since I am 69 years old, not getting any younger, I went for the stiff shaft. However, I also bought a senior flex, a regular flex, and x stiff flex shafts since it's very easy to switch them out. I spent about an hour and thirty mins. indoors and out. I gathered all the data from the launch monitor and found very little difference between each shaft. The best feeling shaft for me was the senior flex shaft. So that's the one I use most often. It feels like I can swing with less effort and get the same results as all the other shafts. It feels better, so I like it better... By the way, on the course I'm swinging the driver about 99-103 mph. To me the perceived effort is about 75%. With the more flexible senior shaft, I feel like I can let the shaft do the work instead of me.
I learned this fishing. Depending on the stiffness of the rod dictated the speed/force you use to cast. Go to fast and the cast was poor same with too slow. Match the cast to the rod and just right. Then there is fly fishing............... My second set of clubs was regular flex. I wanted a 2 iron and had borrowed one and hit it well but the shop only had one in stiff. Never could hit that damn thing.
I’m 50, my driver swing speed is around 105 mph, I can maybe squeeze out 110mph but then I’m in “spray it off the planet territory” and anything can happen. Fitters always default to giving me a stiff shaft, and sometimes extra stiff, but I always pick firm-ish regular flex, and that’s because I like the feel of regular around 60 grams. It does spin more but only a few hundred revs maybe I’m losing 5 or 10 yards, but it certainly doesn’t impact distribution for me, perhaps that would have been an issue years ago but quality has probably improved significantly since then. I think how something feels to the user and what their preferences are can override much of the conventional knowledge around who should use what. I still carry the ball 260-270 and roll out to 280-290 on average with the odd ball threatening 300 if I pure it and the conditions are right. I hit it harder on the range when there’s no penalty, sometimes when swinging the driver on the course I’m really holding back and I may only be swinging at 95 or 100 mph. I’m happy with regular flex that I know will work when swinging on course rather than something I have to swing my best for it to work for me.
PS David Byrne wants his jacket back 😂😏😉 (this dates me, I’m an old git, sorry!)
PPS I use regular in all my hybrid and fairways too, but use stiff steel in my irons
All good but......its been proven time after time that one makers x-stiff is another makers regular. Plus torque and shaft weight come into the equation in terms of what we feel, and then how we react to that feel. IE a low torque (
I am a junior golfer with a +0.6 handicap. My club speed is around 104-106. I was fitted with a Ventus Blue 6X for my driver, a Ventus Blue 7X for my 3 wood, and a Graphite Design AD IZ 8X for my Apex UW. On good hits, I can carry my driver around 260 yards. Additionally, I have Dynamic Gold S300 shafts in my irons and wedges.
I’m 42 with basically the same swing speed and got fit in to a ventus blue tr 7x. I swing 106-109 but I wish I had your handicap. You’ll be faster than me in no time
I enjoyed this video. So relatable, Ijust got a driver fitting and was fitted to a regular flex. This was a total surprise, since I have been playing stiff and extra stiff for the past 20 years. I’m 58 years old and have to realize I might need a softer shaft. My typical loss has been off to the right with the same loft driver and a regular flex all of a sudden I’m hitting a bullet straight, I love your video. Keep it up. I look forward to the next one.
It would also not be a horrible idea for people with this ball flight to go for a shorter shaft like 44.5-45 making it easier to time and square up.
How do you know if the torque is right for you? I never see anyone talk about torque, but I know it matters. I have one driver with a torque of 3, one with a torque of 6, and one with a torque of 8. They are all regular flex, which is the right stiffness for me. The torque of 3 feels stiff, while the 8 feels live, but a bit unpredictable. The 6 seems right to me. If I hit it right, I can feel it absorb, then release energy, giving the ball a nice snap, but not so much that the direction is unpredictable. My personal feeling is that the 6 is about right for me, but I don't know if I'm looking at the right things.
Not always about spees v flex .. i prefer to play a heavy stiffer flex even thou my ss is under 100.. dispersion ia tighter and ball flight for me is more penetrating .. belps keep my spin down to 2300 ..
I was custom fit into an sr flex driver and wood shafts last year, and have been massively struggling with hooks as a result. I have to really slow my swing down to try and control it. I'm just waiting on the new Titleist drivers and woods to release so I can get fitted better at a new place as I don't have confidence in returning to the place that I believe incorrectly fitted me. This video confirms what I had expected that I was fit into the wrong shafts.
I definitely bought myself way too good a driver for my skillset: a Wilson Dynapower carbon with a regular flex shaft. With good control and form, I can only swing at ~92 mph.
In my defence, it was secondhand and a fantastic deal. It was way less than half the price for a barely used club.
There is no such thing as way too good a driver. If you buy a substandard club, you will always get substandard results. Not enough are using a club that is better than they are. Don’t ever doubt this.
I changed my driver shaft to a ladies length and 45 g, absolutely the best thing I have done, 57, and 5"5 hit it now 260+ 304 max, and I use a taylormade M2 2916
Do you know your club head speed?
I'm the same height and I'm gaming a standard length stiff ventus shaft, but often think I'd benefit from the shaft being slightly shorter
I am 86 I have a tailor-made R 11 head senior shaft and I extended it to 50 inches I know it’s illegal but I need to get the distance so I can enjoy my game I can just about reach 200 yards so that works for me most part fours and fives just an iron shot
The correct driver shaft is essential. Mine is a UST 4F2 Senior on my Cobra Radspeed XB.
I have a callaway 7 wood with cypher 40/50 shaft, It flexes like a fishing rod but gets the ball up in the air. I let a young pro at the club with a driver swing speed over 120 try it and he bombed it straight down the middle arrow straight 5 times in a row. Even he was really surprised as he expected it to duck hook it. I then bought a new 3 wood with a regular shaft and the guy fitting me was hitting it straight as an arrow over 260 yards.
I have found there is no standard for graphite shafts from one manufacturer to another
I was fit into a stiff flex Diamana shaft for my PXG driver, I had a regular flex from an off the shelf set and snapped the shaft on the driver. It still feels very whippy and I struggle with it.
Every time I have swung one of these new fangled limp shafted massive head drivers I can barely hit the damn ball with them because the club head is still in the wrong zip code by the time I'm finished with the swing. Sorry I think recommending more flexible shafts to people to "fix" their drive should be met with some caution. I swing an old 975D on a stiff shaft way better than this modern limp stuff and I don't even golf very much. I did take a swing with a club recently with an ultra-stiff graphite shaft on a modern driver head and sent that ball dead nuts down the middle probably further than I have ever driven with little effort.
I live in Brazil, when I was in the states I bought a new Epic 3 wood of the shelve, I have an Epic 5, and 7 wood. I bought an s shift thinking it was for senior and it was a stiff shaft, couldn’t hit it at the club pro loves it
I was using a stiff shaft in my cobra F9 but prone to hooking it, I switched to an X Flex and have since hit the longest straightest drives of my life, the hooks are now few and far between, no fitter would have put me in an X flex I’ll bet though!
I use Tensei AV Blue 65g stiff shaft in my driver. My miss is mostly left, occasional block right. Putting a mid size grip on my driver really helped with the lefts. Rogue ST Max LS SS probably 95-100, but just came off of back fusion surgery so not really sure. Was hitting some long drives in Ireland in mid June, 250+ but have no idead where my SS was since I really didn't get time to practice before I left for Ireland.
I have a Tensei AV Blue 65g stiff flex shaft in a Titleist TSR3 10 degree driver. Getting older, but I like the shaft at 3.9 degrees torque. Can get 240-250 yards on good hits.
I went in to get a swing evaluation specifically because my driver miss is a push or push-fade right. My driver is a 9.5 degree Tour Edge Exotics EXS with a stiff PX Even Flow Riptide CB shaft. I figured there were two choices, right, either the club was not fit or set up right for me OR my swing had issues. I was surprised to see the data averages on my swing. I hit a few degrees in to out, a few degrees up, swung at ~103, launched at around 13 degrees, and had about 2400 rpm. The big issue was that the face was consistently about 6 degrees open. Dang, the problem is me! To his credit, the fitter said not to buy a new driver, but didn't say anything about shaft. Would getting fit into a different shaft potentially help me close the face, or was the fitter right to suggest some lessons?
To me it sounds like your swing is pretty solid. Maybe just a stronger grip? Or try adjusting your head to close the face and add a little loft as that may help as well. I’m no expert but just a free thing to try!
Other than the rare… I clocked it….my driver, three metal and my 3 hybrid all go the same distance. 185 yards.
Simple logic of physics proves what you are saying is in fact the exact opposite of reality dude. A shaft that is too flexible will be lagging behind the grip at contact with the ball and therefore the face is aiming lower and the face will be more open. Just take a second to think about that.
100%... I'm new to golf but pretty naturally athletic and in good shape. Played lots of sports. I was using a stiff flex driver, and slicing shots / getting high spin. I went to get fitted for a driver to see what my issues could be, turns out 110mph club head speed is too much for stiff shafts and they are still flexing in the impact zone, leading to unpure contact, namely open club face. I got fitted for an X stiff and also 10g heavier to help me control the swing better, as my strength is too far ahead of my control and finesse.
You're contradicting everything he said@GeminiMoto
@brandonmonhollen7638 uh, no.. like he said a shaft that is too flexible lags behind the grip. It is still flexed at impact. As in not straight. My swing speed is high enough where that happens for me with a stiff flex, hence I got fitted for an extra stiff.
You guys know what shaft Chambeu has in his long drive club?
@lincolnprojectnemesis3253 he uses a ladies flex LA golf shaft, 48 inch custom.
Assuming you mean for his long drive tournament shaft correct? Not on tour/LIV
Great info! Lessons/tips to stop casting?!
I’ve never had any complaints about a stiff shaft
They probably complain about your short game🤪.
I bought a sim 2 max driver on line £250 regular 50g shaft new went out on the course and hated it.I then bought a aerojet max head and put it in my old cobra shaft and love it
I am using an old fujikura fuel 55 gram shaft i am keeping it for now as i am hitting it great
I have recently bought a Ping 425 sft with a a regular 55 gram shaft. I found im hitting my drives an average of 10-15 yards farther than i was with my Taylormade m3 with a Ventus 5.A senior flex. Im not sure if that is down to slightly newer technology in both shaft and club head or the flex of the shaft, probably both. As for driving my last round i used the driver off 14 tee's, 7 on the fairway, 4 to the right and 3 left. My overall average for my driver is 42% fairway, 29% left and 29% right! But that is a combination of both drivers since the new year. I have no idea of my club head speed, my maximum for ball is 150, and average about 137mph at the range. Again a mixture of both drivers. Ive been using the Ping for about 2 months. In my irons i use senior flex and im hitting them pretty well.
Club head * smash factor = ball speed.
Any driver hit at center should give you about 1.4 to 1.45 smash. So you can use that to calculate club head speed.
I have a ping G425 Max with a 55r shaft.
My spin is constantly +4000 and I can't get it down.
Club speed 92
Attack angle +5°
Launch angle 14-15°
Head is 10.5° tuned down 1 to 9.5°
I hit the head fairly center. When I hit with bottom is +6000 spin.
I used trackman to get the numbers, and spray to check the hit point.
How do I get my spin below 3000?
Max drivers by any brand tend to spin more to get that high MOI. More spin increases accuracy and forgiveness. Not sure what ball you play but maybe do a ball fitting. Shafts can help too but that is a more expensive option. A stiffer version can decrease spin some. There are options of regular with a butt and mid section more stiff and kick point less stiff to keep launch good. Weigh the averages. A few yard more but less accurate might not be ideal. Good luck!
If they called senior flex Amateur flex or just "A", then a lot more ppl, especially beginners, would be more likely to play the correct shaft
Very informative Alex, Time to check everything out vs you suggested speeds.
Why does your audio sound like it’s from the 1950’s sounds like an old radio broadcast
Does a 2004 fujikura speeder xs shaft have equivalent xs characteristics to those in 2024?
i would say so
Great video, thanks Alex.
Aldila recomend 85-95mph🤔 Stif
most guys use a shaft that's too stiff.
Now I used to be my own club builder for about 20 years. My driver always had a stiff shaft, but my irons were regular flex. You CANNOT go by your driver swing speed to find the right flex for your irons. You have to swing that iron and see what that swing speed is.
I see way too many iron sets for sale that have extra stiff shafts in them. That’s why they are for sale. They don’t work. The average male
Golfer swings a driver at 93.4 mph. The average PRO LPGA player swings at 94. You men need to be paying kore attention to what the female pros are using and not the men. We cannot swing like them. Regular flex
For irons for most all average male golfers is right. Stiff or extra stiff and someone is dreaming and thinking with testosterone instead of their own brain.
Now this guys explanation as to how each shaft Worx is laughable. He has no clue. He has not see a
Graphite shaft in slow motion. Don’t listen to him on shafts. Go have your iron swing speed checked and you will be shocked how low it is.
I could, back in my good old days, swing a driver 102mph. My irons however were only at 72mph. Huge difference. Stop using what the profession men are using. Don’t even go with the women. Go with what your swing speed says you should use. And for your irons, go swing a 7 iron and see what your REAL swing speed is and get them shafted accordingly. Almost no average golfer should be using anything more than regular flex in their irons. I
Am now 73 and have dropped to a regular flex in my driver shaft.
I am
Going to continue with tips for wedges. Learn what BOUNCE is for. Too many use wedges with way too low of a bounce angle. Most but wedges not even looking at that number then wonder why they can’t hit them. You need o no ore bounce than a pro golfer who swings like a robot. Many of them would benefit from more bounce. My lowest bounce wedge is 12 degrees and my 60 degree wedge is 14. Not many make a 14 anymore on a lob wedge. Learn these number. Pay attention to them
Teaching pros ignore them also because they never built clubs themselves before. I have. I learned they why behind those numbers and the wedge makers are now knot making what is POPULAR instead of what it right. Saves them money not having to make a 14 or higher bounce. One less machine to use.
Good luck with your games, and think and play smart, not what the pro men are using. Use what is best for YOU.