Ukraine War Gives Taiwan Ideas for How to Defend Itself Against China | WSJ
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- Taiwan has been taking clues from Ukraine on how smaller armies can inflict heavy losses on larger rivals. WSJ unpacks Taipei's so-called porcupine strategy to prepare for a potential war with China.
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It would be insane to witness a world war with 21st century technology being used on both sides. So many videogames try to portray "futuristic warfare," but seeing it happen for real just seems unfathomable in a modern sense. We're kind of at a point as a species where war between industrialized nations is just bad for everyone involved.
21st century weapons are too complex to mass produce, after a couple of months, the army will go back to ak47
yeah its scary to think about i wouldnt want it to happen just bc nukes could get involved and the earth would never be the same. but seeing what would happen i cant say i wouldnt be on the edge of my seat
Historically troops from northern China always win the war. Unfortunately for Taiwan, its troops are staffed with southern stocks. Actually southern Chinese are more courageous than Northern Chinese. But courage will not win the war. It is something else, which is politically incorrect to say here.
You'd be dead
We are already seeing modern warfare in Ukraine and the Middle East but a world war would literally bring the world into a economic depression
Defence experts gave Ukraine 2 weeks max. Invading an island is FAR MORE DIFFICULT. China wouldn't be able to take Taiwan. I'd bet good money on it.
Those were western experts. They have no ideas.
Same here, and then add support from other countries too such as US and Japan and Taiwan is next to impossible to invade
How much? China is not Russia, they enough smart munitions and satellites to track and hit anything that resists on the island.
@@zinjanthropus322 It doesn't matter, Taiwan is a mountainous island to the East and open, boggy land to the west. 70% of its population want longer National Service & conscription has been mandatory since 1951. That means all male citizens have had military training and know how to shoot.
To supply an invading army on an island against 200,000 active defenders with modern weapons and 1.5 million reservists is almost impossible the Chinese military. Those people are also ideologically against thr CCP & have seen what happened to Hong Kong along with the success of the porcupine strategy of Ukraine.
Finally China doesn't have the capacity to land several million troops onto Taiwan.
Sure Xi and lunatics could try to invade Taiwan but it would be Xi finishing his own career and politics.
Xi has already been warned by his own Generals that China needs another 30 years to build the capacity for such an action, but he continues to ignore the PLA.
Xi and his goons would create their own Ukraine if they tried to invade Taiwan. It may be even worse since Chinese troops would have anywhere to retreat too. It would be a slaughter.
@@saltyshackles5227 You're forgetting that Taiwan is a tiny easily blockadable island right next to China. China could just cut off everything and bomb all the infrastructure, agriculture, logistics then starve them into submission. At least Ukraine has land borders to smuggle things through. After they're all starved out then the PLA can show up and clean up the surviving resistors.
Taiwan’s strategy has to be about stopping Chinese troops making it to the island. Taiwan’s main strength is that it’s an island.
well it's also a main weakness
True, even if troops make it to land, Taiwan needs to be in a position to destroy the supply lines of ships on the ocean. They need lots of anti ship missiles that are mobile and can shoot long distances. A few submarines would be a good investment too...enough to scare China off from even trying to attack.
stoping with what?
@@jeffstewart5196 so you think the chinese army is just a bunch of brainless people?
how much weapon you can buy and how much weapon can china buy?
how much weapon you can manufactur and how much weapon china can manufactur?
before the chinese army come you will see a huge bombardment to the coastline, i wonder where the taiwanese army can hide in that small island...
@@cocamilo22 With love
As Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's founding father once said, in a world where the big fish eats the small fish and the small fish eats the shrimp, Singapore must be the poisonous Shrimp.
And with that being said, the Chinese government won't be clear-minded enough to tell which one is safe and which one is poisonous. Once they started it, they'd regret what they just had done very soon after that.
Taiwan has two major advantages over Ukraine:
It is an island, so much harder to invade.
It is much more important in the US's eyes (cause of chips), so the US will help more than Ukraine.
Ten million refugees from Ukraine went to Poland and Russia. Do you want all Taiwanese to die on the island?
@Maxxxie DeSantis when you’re the big dog, you don’t gotta respond to every bark.
As a Taiwanese, I believe the most important factor is that if China takes Taiwan, China's navy would have access to the Pacific, which is a big no-no for the US, as well as for Japan. Semiconductor industry is just a cherry on top.
It also has several issues It means they can be blockaded, and so getting help from outside is much harder, so if the US wanted to help they'd have to cause WW3 which I don't think they are willing to do. What it also means it that there's very little room for retreat which makes it impossible to do what Ukraine did, slow the Russian advance by taking advantage that their country is huge.
@@aonelau5167 bingo 🙏🏼 exactly the case.
Taiwan is Americans sure way to contain china, america losing Taiwan to China would signal chinas overpowering of American influence in that hemisphere
The weapons and aid issues Taiwan faces as opposed to Ukraine is mitigated by the fact that Taiwan would see actual military support.
Why would any country send their military for Taiwan.
I am not certain if the world would support Taiwan as much as they have supported ukraine.
Taiwan provides most of the World's semiconductors. US would likely deploy forces if China were to invade.
@@danyala.1659 Why should US deploy forces in Taiwan. They can make their own semiconductors if they want given time.
@@danyala.1659 The US just passed a 50 billion semiconductor bill, they are trying to compensate for the potential war,
I may not a military strategy expert, but I can surely tell that invading Taiwan is definitely the biggest mistake anyone could have done in the 21st century
It would/will do wonders for the Chinese economy and to rally the populous as manufacturing departs and the artificially-created building industry collapses.
If the China fail to invade within weeks or months.
China will humiliate during the war
and it is definitely a biggest mistake in 21st century.
Any don’t underestimate countrys
@@CorePathway How's that? The Chinese workers can't get their savings out of China's own banks. That's a very bad sign. How can the CCP afford a major conflict?
@@AverageDude-vw6ed ...which would most likely gonna happen 🙄
Buying a huge amount of anti-ship missiles would be a good idea.
Brimstone or storm shadows would make get them twitchy on invasion..
I think it is all down to preparation as well. Ukraine had been prepping since Crimea take over.
Taiwan has been prepping for decades.
Taiwan and Ukraine are vastly different. 1 is an island the other is nearly land locked. 1 is massive the other is small. Ones territory is 100% in range of nearly every weapon without amphibious assault. The other is so far and wide assaulting it is a logistic nightmare.
It’s also really hard to have a guerrilla war behind enemy lines when you have sea marking the frontline. Crossing a river is hard enough.
@ 70 years...73 yrs after this civil war started
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Anyone Comparing Ukraine With Taiwan Has Serous Problem In His Head... Need A Doctor.😁
@ Taiwan needs to prep a lot more
One thing you guys kinda missed in this video is the fact Taiwan has around 1.6 million reservist troops. That means Taiwan has just about 2 million defending their country and a lot more people to draft in the event of an invasion. And china can’t deploy all their 2 million troops towards Taiwan so saying they would have 2 million troops attacking isn’t realistic.
They don’t need to, just blockade and let them surrender when they starve as they’re constantly bombarded
Lol !
By looking at the Chinese population, every number you put here is simply absurd.
And an invasion only makes sense if China wants something from Taiwan unscratched, otherwise China will simply commence an orbital bombardment of Taiwan till it is completely annihilated to the core.
@@yosmch
The same point you were trying to make by mentioning numbers from Taiwan.
And of course China will try to capture semi-conductor market, if any Western nations buys from them after the successful invasion.
That point remains to be seen if they do.
Nonetheless, it was never in question if China can crush Taiwan because they can.
Taiwan is simply at the mood and mercy of China.
not only that deploing 2 million troops at the same time would take a huge efort and to many easy targets a long the distance betwen Taiwan and the ccp ocupied lands of china
@@yosmch if taiwan can get arround 4/5 million small arms to distribute on his popluation it will be nearly impossible for china to conquer taiwan, also chinese airplnes can be easly taken down with a decent amount of missiles and manpads
This video topic is very fascinating. 👍
Taiwan could also benefit greatly with the use of ADM-160 MALD decoys at a low-cost to confuse and reveal enemy SAMs and aircraft locations giving valuable intel for Taiwanese military to strike back harder. Surprise no one mentions about this.
Anti-tank, anti-aircraft/missile and anti-ship weapons. That is all you need. If they are denied access to the island all they can do is hit you from a distance.
They could just invade and once a part of land taken all they do is status quo. Over time China wins the entire island. China isn't interest in ruling the island on their own but to make it a status quo that it's china.
well if they are willing the chinese can bombard the cities with missiles like russians do.
They completely leave out ground to ship missiles... Sigh...
They will be the most critical weapon.
By some brimstone or put your order in now for SCALPS...storm shadow...
Wow! That's a great report.
The 'Porcupine Strategy' has been used since time immemorial. In the past, we simply knew it as 'guerrilla warfare', which at a state-level, that is what it is (America lost the same war to Vietnam a few decades back). A couple of guided missiles to protect against warships, and about 10,000 Stinger missiles issued to trained units, and China wouldn't actually be that big of a threat to Taiwan...just a 'big, shredded, impoverished nation to the west'. Taiwan's best bet is to look into 'shoulder fired missiles', along with 'ship slayers' (Hellfire, air-to-surface, etc.)...they have it a lot easier than most...as they don't need ICBMs, just 'coastal defense'.
Vietnam was not a "war", it was a police action
the thing is taiwan has a simalar landscape to vietnam so theoretically it could use lessons from both vietnam and ukraine
The only reason we actually lost was because of high vegetation was very concealed and impossible to see especially if u didn't know the area
If Ukraine was like that they be unstoppable mainly because it's like a mirror room u don't know who's who or where ur at no map is as accurate to save u
They could come behind under above the possibilities are completely unpredictable the old technique if I was the enemy where whould I be was now not a thing anymore during Vietnam because they could come from infinite directions u have to look up and down it was very psychologically terrifying but now days invisibility suits are invented and are also being used but always kept government secret if u where invisible in the jungle there is no direction to spot anyone or anything because once something is there is now after u
Taiwanese need an Admiral Doenitz, a Field Marshal Manstein and led by a PM like Churchill - We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be.
@@shengyi1701 let’s say you defend it once. There will be a 2nd attempt. And. 3rd and a 4th. How long will you be able to keep it up. My Chinese brother 😀
Should prove somewhat effective. China’s best gear is just Russian gear with Chinese mods.
They steal a lot of US IP. Its probably lower quality US gear with Chinese mods
oh dear, bro, you know you don't know military but why do you make that comment? it is just an emotional statement because, well, you dont know military.
@@timothy1949 the joke flew over your head, dude.
@@DavidtinSongulous9856 I highly doubt it, you little pinks have no military experience, all bluster and no bite. I wonder how cocky you are when you lose 100,000 men within the 1st hour on the invasion. Ukraine was just a warm up, US will release the full war machine on China without hesitation.
This is a typical uneducated person who acquired all his "knowledge" from social media.
Sucks that it has to be this way
Chinese citizens are taught to hate the west, they want you DEAD. The west has to prove them wrong, the west won't lie down and let it happen. Hit them back hard.
Hard way is the only way
It's always hard now or hard later. USA and ROC had its chance in the 1950's when the PRC had no blue water navy.
@@Waldemarvonanhalt we should fight to mainland during Korean war....
Not really. It sucked that Chiang Kai Shek could loot China and escape to Taiwan with US support. That was the sucky bit. This is the rectification of that earlier crime.
As someone has mentioned, the Taiwanese themselves hate the “porcupine strategy”, which requires strategic depth the island doesn’t have, and a willingness to sacrifice lots of lives that the Ukraine war demonstrated. Please don’t assume that everyone is willing to die for political issues. Most of the Taiwanese, if you interview them, would rather choose peace over independence.
And if they are forced to choose? I agree that most if not all Taiwanese prefer the status quo but it look like Beijing will not allowed that. I think its very simple for Taiwanese, if you stay then fight. If you don’t want to fight, ready to emigrate and go asap. War will take place sooner or later
@@baojhoang7242 If Taiwanese are forced to choose, there is no chance Taiwan will survive under an invasion from mainland. US analysis shows that, with both Japan and US involved, the best hope is that Taiwan barely holds, with 2 American carriers sunk, 10,000 American soldiers' lives lost. And that's the best hope. Why would US want to sacrifice 10,000 American lives for Taiwan's independence which is not its core interest? Let's also be honest about it, mainland isn't really afraid of the Taiwanese army no matter how much we equip it. Mainland Chinese army, if anything, is just trying to avoid a war because it's not good for its economy and geopolitical status. When and whether or not there will be a war really depends on how US-China relationship goes. If US tells Tsai not to seek for legal status of a country, there is no way Tsai will do that. Mainland China also has too many tools to force unification. A war is the last measure for mainland too. Things between US and China have to become really bad for that to happen. I'm not saying it won't happen. We just don't know how bad it will become for US-China relations.
@@typicalKAMBlover21 most of your points are correct, and I want to make a long discussion but since it the weekend, I’ll try to keep it short. China and Asia is the US current core interest. Taiwan is a part of that interest and having a friendly Taiwan is better than not. Ever since Xi declared that he wanted to make China no.1 at everything, others saw it as normal competition, but the Washington saw it as a real threat. I’m sure you understand why Taiwan risks angering China and why the US is more than happy to go along. If the US will lose 2 carriers and 10k lives, I believe China will only win if the Taiwanese government or military give up. And don’t believe about China winning a long protracted war. How many families are willing to allow their only male child to join the military to “defend the motherland”? What Taiwanese lack right now is a sense of identity, purpose, and patriotism in their “country”. Taiwan choices are simple, make it easy or hard for China. China has only one chance for reunification. If China fails, the Taiwan will be independent. You point about good relation between US and China may help Taiwan is only valid if both sides have some some agreements. And it look like right now there is absolutely no agreement when it come to Taiwan. As long as Xi is still president, there will be a war unless Taiwan sign a treaty of surrender and end the civil war.
@@typicalKAMBlover21 lol chinese lost twice against taiwan now taiwan has better equipments
you are completely wrong. poll after poll shows 70% of Taiwanese would be willing to take up arms to defend taiwan. Ive lived in taiwan and have no idea where you get your thoughts from.
There should be a prepared Expeditionary force coming from areas like Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines, Japan, Australia, composed of regular army, volunteer corps with the necessary arms and logistical supplies. Air power from these countries will armed to the teeth to confront the invading force. The invading force will have to face many fronts to take care of and will be spread very thin.
¿Lol Why?
The US has been inconsistent in its weapons sales to Taiwan. For example, it's willing to sell us HIMARS, but our requests of purchasing the M777 howitzer has been rejected for many years, leaving our (Taiwan's) artillery batteries still using WW2 era M114's (and local knock-off versions created by reverse engineering it). Just weird once you see the whole picture.
Yeah, I just looked it up. Turns out we owe you some jets and I'm going to ask my representative why we haven't delivered.
Because China is looking for any excuse to invade Taiwan so the U.S. has to be super meticulous about what it gives to Taiwan to avoid that scenario.
@@duerf5826 Meticulous? You think that's the right word? I think that China thinks that they are running out of time. I don't think it matters one bit how cautious we are in how much we give since we have seen that when one old congress lady visits China totally freaks.
It is not weird. Those weapons are used to prolong local war. No other intentions.
They don’t need jets they needs anti-air, and anti-ship missiles by the thousands. The only defense is to survive the artillery barrage and fire missiles back and sink every navy ship in range.
Taiwan semiconductor and all other businesses should move as much IP and production off island yesterday.
I truly believe that a Taiwan war would see the return of submarine warfare to dominance. China would not just need to land, but also continuously resupply hundreds of thousands of troops across a large body of water. Utterly vulnerable to submarines that can fire torpedoes or even lay mines.
sure which is why China has built up the largest Anti-Submarine Fleet in the world. And all they have to do is block the entrances to the Taiwan Strait, basically a line of 200kms. Not only that but China has already Hydrologically mapped every inch of the sea bottom and placed listening/sonar devices throughout. Any US Subs in the Taiwan Strait will be a Kamazee, firing will mean certain destruction.
USA's problem is the same.... To spread out and to far from home. China can concentrate all its power just on Taiwan.
@@sisyphusvasilias3943 I'm not too sure whether these anti-submarine detectors are really likely to catch modern silent submarines though. It's not just the US, I suspect submarines would use harbors in South-Korea, Japan, Australia and New-Zealand. China will dominate in terms of missiles, but they lack the logistics to support such an invasion, at least for the coming decade.
They couldn't land a single troop, why would;d they need supplies? Chinese will defend their country, but won't fight in foreign wars.
I can guarantee that ALL of Taiwan's beaches and waters are protected by both sea and land mines!
Backing this up:
China has been reading my country’s sea floor for the past few years already, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was for deploying submarines.
1:26 love that sound
Sana all.....
We Must Learn From Israel,Vietnam, and now to Ukraine...
israel?
^^^^^^^^^^
I think he meant the 6 day war israel fought and won
@@ncasuallymakesopinions5735 You Got it!
@@equilibriumfiles5768 , Like Afghanistan, Vietnam was different from Israel and Ukraine. The US retreats because of civil unrest back home that they against the war.. economically and politically.
@@CasterbalTV Ah Ok hehehe!
LOVE TAIWAN !!!!!!! REGARDS FROM SINGAPORE !!!!
I can see plenty pictures NLAW's, SAAB Swedish design and produces in Northern Ireland.
I'm curious of what open source info says 600+ (tanks and aircraft?) have been destroyed. is that 300 tanks and 300 planes?
not trying to be a heckler I'm actually trying to understand the loss of weaponry as quoted.
I hope to see an East Asian Alliance including Taiwan, South Korea, Japan, and any other democracy. As a Japanese, I think it is time for us to come clean, recompense South Korea and start building an alliance that looks forwards.
Recompensing what? The comfort woman in ww2? Korean need the governmental apologize, not monetary compensation.
@@kunkunhuang8022 The definition of recompense by the Oxford dictionary: "make amends to (someone) for loss or harm suffered; compensate." Making amends are included. That involves an apology.
@@akinigiri or recompensing the people dead in Seoul where would been destructed under the missiles from North?
@@akinigiri Compensation doesn't equal governmental apology. A little difference, but means a lot.
Japanese breaks a lot of records of killing and kill minions of Asians in 2ww, which just behaves as a ghost to the Asian people. While US plays smart and tricky to the Asian in 2ww, US helps China to against Japan, while sending weapon to Japan to attack China. (US is good at use the war to cash out money to their own pocket) So, I would say Japan initiate the war, and US support the war in behind scene. We can imagine how horrible would be when Japan union with US.
It's not like China would use low-flying aircraft in the 1st stage of attacks that US Stingers can reach. But anyways, if Su-27/30/35 & other high-flying combat jets can't use their full altitude when striking ground targets, then good news since no need for expensive high-altitude SAMs like SM6, SM2, Aster30, Barak NG, & so on to reach them. Cheaper SAMs will do like MICA, CAMM or similar. Is this the reason why other oversized warships are just contented not having high-altitude SAMs?
I don't know much about this, so I would like to ask: Can't Su-27/30/35 fly at full altitude when attacking ground targets? With targeting pods or pre-defined targets and smart bombs/rockets that are GPS or laser guided, I would have imagined they can fly over/outside the range of the cheaper SAMs. Or can't they?
The recent exercises already shown that Taiwan can only terminal intercept ballistic missiles.... US can hardly defend against ICBM bombardment, there's nothing else need to say....
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Russia VS Ukraine, 120m vs 40m.
China vs Taiwan, 1400m vs 20m.
Well ruzzians can use car or vehicle to ukraine. Can 1.4b people fit in their aircraft carrier? Only 25k people can only fit in it
hmmm Indonesia 290 million vs Australia 26 million ( yet Australia has a far far stronger Air force and Navy ) so its even more embarrising... are you giving examples of where a smaller country has a better military than a much larger one ?? In real world performance not numbers on a piece of paper eg China
you need to go back to school and learn a bit more with your stats.... Russia is 143 million not 120... Ukraine is around 44 not 40. China is 1340 million its NEVER been 1400 and taiwan is 25 not 20 you were off by a huge 20%
@@nic7048 Sure, that makes great differences.
The same analysts claimed Ukraine won’t even survive a month - I think this same reporter is guilty of that
UKRAINE WILL KNOCK OUT THE OPPONENT IN ONE PUNCH
Surely the big issue will be the difficulty of a D-Day style landing with such a big gap between the China mainland and Taiwan? Are you saying planes cannot take down the ships because of massive extra air power of China? Or that China would invade with paratroopers? What would the optimum weapons given to help Taiwan be? Torpedoes? Or Exocet missiles?
Against an amphibious assault, Taiwan would better be served by land-based anti-ship missiles, saving their outnumbered air force for air-to-air combat.
Nancy Pelosi and her wonderful son 🤣
@@fuleinist Nancy Pelosi has no say over any potential combat operations between PRC and ROC. Are you sure you're posting to the right group? You seem to be lost.
It's all of them combine. There is no just one weapon that will make invasion go away, but everything at once.
@@DevonHensley211 As in many endeavours, you need to use scarce resources most effectively. All weapons systems have their own advantages and drawbacks (although some are heavy on drawbacks). It is best to prioritize according to capabilities and according to needs.
I wonder if javelins can be used against landing craft? Anyone know?
The high numbers of soldiers
not important but the capabilities
of weapons and defense system
is very important in new era war.
Ukraine War Gives China Ideas for How to Invade Taiwan successfully. Can you make this content?
I've been saying all along. In any future war the last place I would want to be is in a tank,helicopter or a navy ship. Cheap handheld weapons can take out tanks by the thousands. I sure hope Washington is watching.
A bullet that costs a couple dollars can take out a professional soldier, whose training, equipment, resupply etc combined can easily run in hundreds of thousands... if one fails to correctly use a tool, one can lose it easily.
Totally different war theatre, terrain, and other circumstances.
They definitely need to put a lot more effort into their auxilliary forces.
Nah, Russia is struggling to capture strategic places in Ukraine despite being a flatland and borders away, let alone China. Taiwan's geographic location is its natural defense. It is a mountainous island. China will have to transport its invading forces either by ships or cargo/transport planes. If those ships or cargo planes were lucky enough during the transport, the next thing it has to deal with is the amphibous landing. As mentioned before, it is a mountainous Island. But unlike Russia, China can easily replenish the dead soldiers because of its population.
Taiwanese geographic location is in perfect place for unlimited quantities of Chinese PHL-03
@@mhlatki China is the perfect country for sanctions,, losing 80% of there exports will make them poor overnigh and unlike russia NO country can replace China for lost markets as all of china's friends are dirt poor third world countries that are already broke. Goodluck trying to land ships and army soldiers on taiwan if you think russia was bad imagine when China loses 250,000 troops in a single day because that in the papers is likely to happen.... massing all your troops in one area will give you that , and sending 1 plane at a time wont do anything..... ohhh you think those PHL missles will do anything??? that strategy never worked in Afganistan , you cant destroy Taiwan army without being on the ground and you will never get on the ground without losing everything on the first day..... Even the US would lose the same number, technology can only go so far, you cant see underground or find hidden targets without spotters... Taiwan has the best defence on the planet and as long as they have large numbers of cheap effective weapons they will be fine and they know it .... the paper dragon China will continue beign a paper dragon they lost against the UK and Japan and still cant admit defeat now they want to add Taiwan to that list.... so if Taiwan beats China maybe they should call themselves a super power than
Mountains can be both an advantage and liability. An invading force landing on a mountain will be have an advantage because defender's armor and artillery will be hard to use. Couple that with Chinese air superiority and there is no way to dislodge them from that mountain.
but the issue is moot, just blockade the island and have an air campaign for 3-4 months. Also the entire island is in the range of the Chinese rocket artillery from the mainland. There will be no defenses left when the invasion forces finally come.
people encouraging Taiwan to fight are mostly CIA trolls hoping to increase the level of destruction of Taiwan and increase the number of dead Taiwanese Chinese and mainland Chinese .. anybody with a shred of military knowledge knows that Taiwan is impossible to defend
@@alexlazar4738 Good luck getting jets past Patriot airdefence systems hidden in the jungles, or the mobile antiship missiles that will reduce the PLA navy to zero , not to forget the hundreds of Cruise missiles that will hit critical infastructure on the mainland , powerplants and fuel depos, lets see how well china fights when its citzens dont have fuel or power, China is not the only one with long range missiles as your ignorantly think, in 3 years Taiwan will have a stockpile of well over 2000 cruise missiles that can cripple china economically if they hit
@@eduwino151 You are delusional. Do you really think China will mind losing a couple of hundred airplanes in a SEAD campaign that will destroy the Taiwanese air defense? As for hitting critical infrastructure on the mainland you obviously cannot even fathom just how massive it is (2000 missiles cannot even destroy Huawei's infrastructure) , you'll need tens of thousands of missiles just to make a little dent on it. it will all of course be quickly repaired.
If China loses 1000 airplanes, 1000 helicopters and 100 ships and 100 000 solders while reunifying China, that's a price they would pay anytime. And much more if needed ...
of course, the likely numbers are ten time smaller.....
Taiwan needs to build their own military arms factory. Preferably underground
The DAM
Install the ultimate iron dome models
artillery , drone, MANPAD, NLAW and good missile system is the meta of current wargame.
Issue is that China would have difficulty leveraging its manpower, as it doesn't have the logistics required to ferry the troops needed for an invasion to taiwan. All it can hope to do, at the moment at least, is blockade Taiwan.
All that China needs to do is to blockade Taiwan to bring it to the negotiating table. China doesn’t need to fire a shot on Taiwan
I LIKE THAT MOVIE CLIP ABOUT THE BUSS FIGHT
Normandy beach d-day vibes😑😑
God bless Taiwan 🇹🇼
If the Ukraine war is any implications of what could happen, I would hate to be on that island when it happens.
leave before it's too late
I would hate to be in any East Coast Chinese City which are all in range of weapons from Taiwan!
@@khiem1939 LOL, calm down, y r safe girl
Everybody needs to watch this
Good
It doesn’t have to be this way
Yes, the Chinese people could so Xinny the Pooh the exit.
The biggest advantage of Taiwan is that there are only limited beach that can landing (so we can prepare for that). But on the other hand, it will be hard to get supply from other countries once war begins. Also, China have similar weapons to HIMARS with a huge qty and huge supply of missiles. And unlimited supply of drones and weapons. (to attack our defense system)
and one of the biggest disadvantage is Taiwanese warships are so old, backwards and ineffective comparing to Mainland China,
can we find a single Taiwanese warship able to march with 054A, 055 or Fujian? no, nothing,
Pla will just send a lot of paratroopers and use scortched earth artillery tactic…
As the drill showed, China don't even need to land on Taiwan. Just blockage and wait for negotiation to surrender.
@@cinpeace353 Some people will surrender but most don't. Then US supply ship will come and China will have to decide to sink US supply ship or not. Of course Taiwan will be in huge chaos while other countries will sanction China.
Taiwan only has 11 days of natural gas reserve, blockade is the best strategy
Now I can see how Master Chief won the covenant war
Good bless them
Thr most effective defense for Taiwan would be nuclear deterrence.
True a few mid level Nuclear ICBMs would SOLVE the "China Problem" forever!
Right now China is on the verge of economic collapse. With their banking system losing billions of dollars from the sour real estate market, China cannot afford to engage in war right now. With Covid lockdowns which are still going on in some parts of China, it will be difficult for China to maneuver & start a war. Maybe in a few years, it might happen by invading Taiwan but I hope this will not come to fruition.
al roberts
It does look as though Xi, given his maniacal obsession with lockdowns and 'zero covid' policy (i.e. zero food and zero income for millions), has shot himself in the foot economically.
He seems to think that, if he wills really hard for a thing to happen, it is bound to happen. If one can imagine praying to oneself------------for what other option would a devoutly atheistic leader have?
It will never work. The LORD is God, but Xi is merely Xi.
hahha
Do research on US economy too 😆😆😆
I'm in southeast asia, oh my... Thank you US for making us more rich while you hurt west economy ❤️
0:31 holy cow 😮
Dream on
WSJ: Taiwan will thank you for teaching them how to daydream.
Taiwan is an awesome country. It’s people are very friendly. Taiwan is a gem and seemed to have maintained the Chinese culture well. I find the southern part of Taiwan more interesting. I hope things stay peaceful across the straits.
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Dont go strength to strength just use most of uav, mobile platoons, with most mobile AA and himars misiles..hide, hit and run tactics
Ukraine was bigger than France. There is a 1000 miles' front line. Taiwan is an island🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Maxxxie DeSantis 😎
This war thing modern Media portrays by comparing each countries military advantage/strength against opponent country(ies) seems like sports, forgetting Millions of peoples lives are in line and at risk which is more scarier. People lives are more important...We should emphasize on that part more than the other.
Dan Lema
How true. 'Those who live by the sword will also perish by the sword.'
'Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.'
@@marcusonesimus3400 Amen Brother.
@@marcusonesimus3400 the US lives by the biggest sword so what does that say?
Whats more interesting is to see these couch commanders argue about how and why it will be hard to invade Taiwan.
You don’t stop short of reaching an ambitious goal because its “hard”
China is doing whats in its best national interest, I don’t blame em. Taiwan leadership has sold itself to the US.
The US has among the highest debts in the world and yet, its still cranking out the money for its war machine.
I don’t blame the US either, since it’s also looking after its interest.
I have no dogs in this fight.
@@mvflp2218
Yes, I wonder what are the sources of their expertise.
Regarding your other comment, American overreach did more than its share of damage to the cause of global peace and security over the past 20 years. The US did suffer severe loss of power and prestige as a result.
But it's not as though the CIA had solid ethics before that
time, because it had vied with the KGB in ruthlessness during the Cold War.
I think your comment is very relevant to the problem of domestic gun violence in America. Indeed the national anthem celebrates violence without shame or cover, so the roots of both militarism and domestic gun violence run deep.
That being said, as a neighbor I think that the US has a useful role to play in global affairs, and that includes defense of Taiwanese and South Korean interests against aggression from China and company. When people cite American hubris to justify Chines hubris, or advocate appeasement of China, I am unimpressed, for two wrongs do not make a right, and this particular wrong is very wrong.
Many people, whether in the West or China, are woefully uninformed about the terrible human rights record of the CCP, which for all I know may be the biggest criminal organization in the hstory of the modern world.
Don't get me wrong, because I know plenty of people from mainland China and get along with them just fine. Most of them are not very interested in politics. But
they chose to live HERE in the West, rather than in China, and to raise their kids here in a multiracial, multicultural city. Now WHY is that? Why are they not going back?
They like it better here, where they have more personal freedom.
CHINA (PRC/CCP) HATES FREEDOM. It wants to make slaves of the whole world.
By spending only 2% of GDP on its military, Taiwan clearly doesn't worry about its own defense, neither should the US.
could taken initiative to procure lisence and develop indigenous cargo round on man-portable. weather all year round or proximity made secular eastern waves.
PRETTY SURE China is getting ideas too.
Hope so. To back off.
haha...indeed
They had those ideas all along but could not implement them, thank God.
FWIW the main Chinese idea from the Russian mess is fury. It has shown that it is not hopeless forTaiwan to resist. It has given inspiration to Taiwan [and others] to fight and not give in. Reports are that the CCP is not pleased with Vlad at all.
@@paulohagan3309
I guess that by 'fury' you mean indignation-----------righteous indignation I hope, which is so much more than just a reflexive reaction to getting hurt.
The Russians and Chinese were expecting to find opponents as cynical, devious, spineless, and amoral as they are.
The Russo-Chinese alliance was a terrible idea from the start, a demonstration of Putin's incipient senility. Unlike several alliances which Russia has had with Western nations, this one has no successful historical precedent.
There is a certain Russian fad for 'Eurasianism', but as conceived 100 years ago the ideology had NOTHING specifically to do with China, which was very weak at the time.
Putin pretends to be champion of Russian Orthodox Christianity, but clearly the CCP is atheistic. What gives? Scripture says, 'Do not be yoked together with unbelievers', but he does not care. He will not allow his bromance with Xi Jinping to be interrupted. It seems to be one of the few 'joys' remaining in his life, now that he has a fortune worth 200 billion, more nukes than anyone will ever need, etc.
No matter what happens, US will earn money 💰💰,.
that's is their strategy from the beginning.. 😂
Peace be upon everyone💓
Peep the importance of the 2nd A 👍🏽
This report emphasized the importance of Javelin/Stinger like missiles, long range artillery, and drones. But it would be better to check similar weapons owned by PLA and the huge advantages in both qualities and quantities.
copy and paste army doesn't stand a chance
@@kinglima7730 Some armies even do not have the capabilities to copy. And some did not learn the lessons from their defeats.
They would be of little use to the PLA. Small handheld weapons like that are for the porcupine in this strategy, when they have lost a lot of their armour.
@@tams805 This is true for heavy anti tank missile like HJ-10. But MLRS and drones are still very useful for PLA. And there would be little chance for ROC army to use them.
You keep showing footage of NLAW’s while talking about javelins. I honestly expect better of WSJ. It annoys me no end when CZcamsrs do this but a respected famous media company could and should do better. If this was done in print photos you would need to publish a correction.
Because they are a USA based organization and the idea that there are world class weapons systems not designed by the US is an anathema. They also talked a lot about stinger missiles, without mentioning the vastly superior Starstreak system.
What the Ukraine war shows is that being able to locate where your enemy concentrations especially their ammunition dumps are and then quickly allocate the available response to destroy them is key. You need to be able to use satellites, drones and ground reconnaissance to gather data on the enemy, prioritize it, and assign appropriate forces quickly. We have the technology to decrease the fog of war as never before. The one who can manage effectively the most information wins.
Weapons on their shoulders?!? Wha--?!?
i like that 2 underdogs communicate ....
go ukraine and go taiwan!
Since the introduction of drone and robotic technology defence capabilities have become game changes.
Take the traditional pill-box, there is now no need to build rigid bunkers when there are highly mobile multiple remote controlled gun turrets that can be deployed in advance, not only stopping the invading army in their tracks, but that can also be concealed, allowing the invader through, and then made active and used to attack the invaders from behind and their supply lines.
The traditional large battlefield assets are vulnerable to low cost attack methods, take something like an aircraft carrier, a drone ship could be used to get close to the carrier and then launch a swam of attack drones that drop bomblets to litter the launch deck. Cost effective and expendable and almost undefendable.
The longer Taiwan have to prepare, the more formidable their defence is likely to be.
unfortunately, Chinese drone was on a leading edge since 200x. Once war opens any factory could shift to produce drones and no other country could do that even count together
You have seen to much movies...
Those kind of drone have maybe a mile range.
In wartime no ship would get 50 miles near an aircraft carrier...
@@tiagogomes3807 Said the captain of the USS Gerald R Ford.
@@martincday007 requesting further financing to new weapons and defenses...
So the Navy gets further financing they have to give the idea there is a real threat.
The same reason they say so often that China has a bigger Navy when they clearly don't.
You are right on!
Good luck 🤞🏾
Same principal's of a boxing fight, if your adversary is hitting you, you counterstrike, not wait till you get knocked out
Remember these things -
1 - Taiwan would *not* be alone. China would be facing Taiwan, Japan, Australia and possibly even the UK. All of those countries have submarines too. The US would at least be supplying weapons and ammo (as with Ukraine).
2 - Sanctions. China's economy is already as sick as a plague patient. Slap sanctions on it and China will be history within six months.
3 - China's soft military. China has next to no recent experience in real wars. They fought Vietnam in the late 70s and got hammered.
China's training too would be much inferior to Western military training.
Point 3. Yea, because 1970s China = 2020s China... Lack of experience is correct tho
The Ukraine war also gives China ideas for how to invade Taiwan.
How so, the Chinese invasion will be amphibious. Taiwan needs to sink these carriers as they travel across, they have at least an hour to sink as many Chinese vessels before they hit the beech. The Chinese invasion will look more like D-day and Taiwan must kill at least 30% of the PLA before they land, finish them on the shores of the island because Taiwan will have the elevation advantage.
The Ukraine war also gives Kim Jong Un ideas how to Invade South Korea🤔
@@Booz2020 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nothing Putin has tried has worked so what ideas are they getting?
Maybe don’t invade a heavily armed neighbor?
As a Taiwanese, I would like to hear your argument sir.
there seems to be some military strategy confusion in this video.
Oh no bad idea!
The free country of Taiwan and the free world stands against the evil ccp everyday
This is why Chinese people deem you Taiwanese traitors. We fought a civil war over our disagreements but we are still one entity no matter how much we disagree. The Koreans never gave up on reunification no matter how much differences are between them. Neither sides want to be ruled by the other but neither side is willing to let outsiders split their nationality apart. You make me sick.
Before the Russo Ukraine war almost all expert suggested that Russia is too strong and will easily take ukraine with overwhelming power and we know that all of them were proved wrong.
Similarly a lot of Analysts suggest that taking Taiwan by force would be very difficult due to its location and military what if that too proved to be extremely wrong, man that would have serious consequences for Western weapons and China as a emerging military power.
do you know how many Russian soldiers were sent to Ukraine?maybe they just want keep the situation like what it is now.to make Europe suffered in the winter
It's just a campaign or he said operation
Go
Its actually a lot more than 600+ tanks and aircraft oryx stopped updating it
The problem is China has a lot more troops to throw at Taiwan unlike Russia 190000 troops, they are also a dictatorship so they don’t have to worry about public opinion.
But they have to get those troops across the Strait. On boats. Which can be sunk.
You don’t seem to know china very well. Dictatorships doesn’t mean it can ignore public opinions. When china was still ruled by Taiwan’s political before the civil war it was also a dictatorship, it was overthrown due to it completely ignoring public interests.
there would be civil wars within China if war broke out with the U.S. and Japan. I don't really think the military wants to fight for Xi.
@@johnnylin0924 you’re absolutely wrong. Xi jing ping would not be head of china without the support of its military. Besides, the liberation of Taiwan had been the goal of china since 1949. That was way before xi took power.
@@ianshaver8954 destroying Taiwan would be the easiest thing China ever did, but then they would probably lose TSMC which would f the whole world. It’s not about getting troops there. The only reason they will leave Taiwan alone is to keep the chips coming out of TSMC, which they need for their consumer electronics to keep their economy going smoothly
Croatia was first country in the world that defeated larger and better equipped foe using lots of man-pads and drones, combined with 3D mapping of terrain, Croatia brought modern warfare on completely next level.
In what war?
It’s looking like Ukraine is going to repeat that. The tides are turning.
BS. The soviet union had fallen, Russia was in disarray, so USA/UK divided Yugoslavia on their own. Media made it look cool. But things have changed. Russia is no longer in disarray ,while USA / UK are rotting from inside (BLM looters, LGBT twerkers, abortion lovers, illegal latinos/dinghy divers...). Expect another war, and Kosovo/Croatia will be reintegrated with Serbia.
It also gives an idea how the city will look like.
Tell me about it Wall Street Journal?
It also gives idea to China on how to attack.
Chinas 50 ct army 🤪😂
@@Buttersausage and USA scared of 50cent army. Maybe USA 2 cent army?
Unfortunately, the “porcupine strategy” theory only works after the defending country has been attacked and occupied by the hostile aggressive country. I’m positive after all the unnecessary and brutish destructive acts from Russia on Ukraine, I’d bet Ukraine rather not be using the “porcupine strategy” as a first line of offensive stratagem. The Ukraine is very fortunate that many of their western neighbors are peace loving countries. Unlike Taiwan who has no landlocked neighbors, it could be very difficult to bypass a Chinese navel blockade around the island and hence, moving arms and equipment into Taiwan.
Actually. It would be quite interesting how they can develop weapons that can package a large punch in a small package thus sending more in the same space that a missile launcher would. Maybe even set up multiple miniature missile launchers scattered all across the front would make it more difficult to advance.
A crazy idea for island resupply? Develop stealth resupply submarines.
Its amazing peoples unwillingness to think for themselves.
The 3:1 rule of combat states that in order that for the attacker to win the battle, his forces should be at least three times the force of the defender.
They would need even more now because they don`t have the element of surprise. The best move for the Chinese would be to use nukes to not lose all their men, and force the Taiwanese to a total surrender. But that move would most likely also make the world ready for ww3, and unite even more against Beijing. China has nothing to gain on a attack on Taiwan, but it`s impossible to know what`s going on in the minds of the " high command" in Beijing.
Not necessarily in the modern war. Currently Ukrainian army outnumbers Russian 4 to 1 so according to orthodoxy the Russians should have 8 times more troops than they actually have.. but The Russians are still advancing in spite of that
Hope Taiwan will be ok, as China is definetly predatory.
We, after all, live in a World where 3% of the Greatest
Countrys are basically Evil Empires.
Americas RIGHT-NOW Treatment of Cuba is just 1 Example - a Situation
epicly covered by by 'Second Thought'.
China population 1.4 billion..Taiwan 23 million..
Do the Math!
There are enough Taiwanese..willing to fight on the chinese side...on the Island...
WSJ study the history Taiwan has been always part of China since ancient times
lol the only chinese history is made up history.... they telling everyone in China now that the phillipines and Australia is part of China since ancient times too
Perhaps the Swiss decentralized model of everyone armed would work best as central command is vulnerable. Instead of assault riffles, each person would be equipped with shoulder fired anti-land/air weapons. That would be a true porcupine defense. Add iron dome, HIMARS and some semi-autonomous air and sub-surface drone, that might work. One huge vulnerability of Taiwan are saboteurs. Here again, the decentralized approach would work best. I suspect it would the psychology of chains of command that would the biggest stumbling block. Getting generals to accept that communication down the chain of command and flow of information back might get severed really early, is hard for them to accept or plan around.
A truly decentralized command structure has no generals . . . or stated another way: a decentralized command structure only has generals.
Hundreds of thousands of missiles and rockets of all types, mortars, and cannons. All the while dug in mountainside but with a high level of communication and internal transport.