Taiwan has a secret doomsday plan for China

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    • @JTL1776
      @JTL1776 Před 10 měsíci +5

      American Air defense has proved itself time and time again.
      The sheer capacity of naval air defense and the systems across East Asia let alone the Increase of air defense systems accross allies near Chinese borders.
      Taiwan might not get obliterated.

  • @weimorefun
    @weimorefun Před 10 měsíci +5889

    Taiwanese here! When I was a conscript in the Taiwanese Army 10 years ago my officer used to tell us about this plan, But we will never do this unless it's absolutely necessary !!! I wish peace upon Taiwan, China and the rest of the world~

    • @markc6140
      @markc6140 Před 10 měsíci

      Should Taiwan take this heinous step, Taiwan leaders will be annihilated totally without hesitation.

    • @ronzac55
      @ronzac55 Před 10 měsíci +355

      i really hope China and Taiwan won't destroy each other, because it would be a lose lose. especially for the people of both countries.

    • @andreilazar2800
      @andreilazar2800 Před 10 měsíci +141

      China is well aware of this treat and would let the Dam drain out before the Invasion

    • @andreilazar2800
      @andreilazar2800 Před 10 měsíci +171

      ​@@ronzac55If China will let the Dam drain out before the Invasion it would only destroy a the electric Energy suply wich the destruction of the Dam would Not cause signifikant Problems in electric Energy suply

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 Před 10 měsíci

      Taiwan might not do so unless absolutely necessary, But if they get involved, and they would have no choice but to do so, then the US would do it BEFORE they do anything else! Why? Well it also stops China using their nuclear deterrence.

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  • @sw1vel-kid536
    @sw1vel-kid536 Před 9 měsíci +103

    I’m glad I could find this 14 min video with over million views talking about Taiwan’a biggest SECRET

    • @nyanyamero
      @nyanyamero Před 9 měsíci +11

      It's not really a "secret" that you think, it's more of a threat or a warning to china. Porcupine strategy is what Taiwan has been doing for decades now.

    • @BV-fr8bf
      @BV-fr8bf Před 9 měsíci +1

      The USAF likely has a similar strategy!

    • @hkfoo3333
      @hkfoo3333 Před 9 měsíci +5

      it is all bs.

  • @canolathra6865
    @canolathra6865 Před 9 měsíci +77

    I feel like a lot of people are forgetting just how strong large amounts of water are. All you need to do is create a crack that allows a dozen gallons per second through, and within a day the entire dam would be destroyed by the force of the flowing water.

    • @alexdrockhound9497
      @alexdrockhound9497 Před 9 měsíci +8

      yep. the scouring effects of high pressure water are pretty incredible. If they made a few meter size hole below the water line, the water pressure could eat away the dam down to the river bed.
      But if china was about to attack taiwan, they would likely empty a lot of water out of the dam.

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Před 9 měsíci

      How much you know, upon the building of the dam, this issue was not noted and prepare for. Like the Great Wall, it is meant to last a thousand years. Please note the many public project in China history lasted more then a thousand years. After a Nuke, who care for it will be the end of all mankind for CCP have thousand Nuke for U.S.A. alone.

    • @brianpeck4035
      @brianpeck4035 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yeah and comparing a leak to releasing water through sluices is unreasonable because of the erosive effects of a large leak.

    • @lixzx007
      @lixzx007 Před 9 měsíci

      But compared with China's nuclear retaliation. It will be nothing

    • @Alias1983
      @Alias1983 Před 9 měsíci

      It would give important people more time to flee. Best case scenario is to blow it wide open in one shot.

  • @Hobbit_1023
    @Hobbit_1023 Před 10 měsíci +1578

    “And while people are not into politics, people are into survival…and when it comes to survival, nothing is contemptible.”
    …well said!

    • @wuhaninstituteofvirology
      @wuhaninstituteofvirology Před 10 měsíci +21

      & when it comes to survival, mutually ensured destruction is the opposite of that

    • @khaldrago911
      @khaldrago911 Před 10 měsíci +34

      How secret is that plan if it’s on CZcams now?

    • @Peizxcv
      @Peizxcv Před 10 měsíci

      Stop treading his exotic wisdom quote as some old adage. That quote is illogical as it equates not having national sovereignty to death and that’s clearly not the case.
      Beijing isn’t out to kill Taiwanese so if the choice is fight to the last Taiwanese for NATO or surrender and go home to family, the choice is obvious

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x Před 10 měsíci +12

      Shirvan Tzu

    • @justindion4394
      @justindion4394 Před 10 měsíci +11

      He has some of the best quips.

  • @ryanchris1048
    @ryanchris1048 Před 10 měsíci +829

    War is not determined by who is right, but who is left. Very profound indeed.

    • @steampunk888
      @steampunk888 Před 10 měsíci +13

      You’re misquoting it. Listen again.

    • @stardustandflames126
      @stardustandflames126 Před 10 měsíci +28

      Is it though? It's a pretty goofy pun

    • @CthonicSoulChicken
      @CthonicSoulChicken Před 10 měsíci +8

      Shirvan was full of bangers in this one.

    • @STFUGOOGLE420
      @STFUGOOGLE420 Před 10 měsíci +33

      This is an old ass quote and not to mention cringy and try hard. Its nothing new and definitely nothing profound

    • @red-vg2ds
      @red-vg2ds Před 10 měsíci +21

      @@STFUGOOGLE420 🤓

  • @allenaxp6259
    @allenaxp6259 Před 8 měsíci +15

    According to a 2017 study by the RAND Corporation, a US think tank, a nuclear strike on the Three Gorges Dam would likely cause it to collapse, resulting in a catastrophic flood that would inundate much of central China. However, the study also found that a conventional strike could also cause significant damage to the dam, depending on the type of ordnance used and the location of the strike.
    For example, a bunker buster bomb could potentially penetrate the dam's thick concrete walls and damage its internal structure. However, the study found that multiple strikes would likely be required to cause the dam to collapse.

  • @Max-pk6uc
    @Max-pk6uc Před 10 měsíci +179

    the info graphic feels misleading, why would blowing up the dam, flood areas upstream, I understand how downstream areas would suffer and those are the more industrial and valuable parts, but feels a tad bit misleading when you show upstream parts flooding 100's of square kilometers of land. The more realistic thing is that upstream areas would have their water level drop, a great example would be the dam explosion in Ukraine, The reservoir drained, water level upstream from the dam went down, while the areas downstream suffered. As well as the fact that this is such an important target, China would install protection around the dam, but sure, I grant that it is possible and even the mere chance of this happening is a deterant in of it self, still find the video a bit overly sensational.

    • @abdiganiaden
      @abdiganiaden Před 10 měsíci +33

      The graphic design work on this channel just poor.

    • @Monsterpala
      @Monsterpala Před 10 měsíci +2

      But do they have trained dolphins like Russia defending the important Kerch bridge 😂

    • @AlphaCookies
      @AlphaCookies Před 10 měsíci +4

      what to say.. indian imagination is sometimes too much..

    • @Abdullahnauman245
      @Abdullahnauman245 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I was going to say

    • @CaptainMisery86
      @CaptainMisery86 Před 10 měsíci +10

      I'm thinking it is showing areas effected directly by the loss of the dam. Upstream areas that lose water and downstream areas that get too much

  • @danielmadar9938
    @danielmadar9938 Před 10 měsíci +510

    Thank you. Note that your illustration of the flood after the dam destruction is wrong, as you "flood" the whole basine. If the dam collapses, only downstream areas, lower than the reservoir might be flooded.

    • @Haxerous
      @Haxerous Před 10 měsíci +118

      ​@@OK-jn4wnwhich is just deliberately deceptive

    • @Embassy_of_Jupiter
      @Embassy_of_Jupiter Před 10 měsíci +69

      I think the animators just wanted to highlight the basin in a fancy way and because we are talking about a flood, they made it look like water.
      It was just a poor choice by the animators.
      While it certainly makes it seem so, I don't think it's meant to imply the whole basin being flooded.

    • @mrD66M
      @mrD66M Před 10 měsíci +50

      I think the illustration is "areas affected" rather than "areas flooded". The flood would be obviously downside of the dam, but upstream there could be water shortages.

    • @iloveprivacy8167
      @iloveprivacy8167 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Downstream, if the channel narrows, the water might rise higher than the level of the dam.
      More generally, though: exactly how much will be affected is unknown, while entire basin can be shown without difficulty. From a precautionary principle: better to say people might be affected who wouldn't be than other way 'round.

    • @youxkio
      @youxkio Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@mrD66M Yep, and ripple effects on the power grid instability.

  • @EovarEndre
    @EovarEndre Před 9 měsíci +2

    Cixin Liu be like: the deterrence era has begun

  • @shuaipeng602
    @shuaipeng602 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Three goeges is not a typical dam in the sense we have in the us. It was constructed like a mountain is not the design that holds back rhe water rather the weight that holds back the water. So knowing its importance i doubt any attack would go through and if it did cause a flood, the revenge would wipe the attacker off the map.

  • @LizardSpork
    @LizardSpork Před 10 měsíci +691

    It may not be useful in preventing an invasion but it might prove useful in persuading China not to use nukes should the invasion go poorly.

    • @yurichtube1162
      @yurichtube1162 Před 10 měsíci

      China doesn't need to invade. It can shut down Taiwan's economy within a week, and cut them off from the rest of the world

    • @eduwino151
      @eduwino151 Před 10 měsíci

      Taiwan can use the threat of rockets with dirty bombs hitting Chinese cities to deter an foolishness

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j Před 10 měsíci +49

      Yeah, war crimes are very persuasive

    • @centrist3684
      @centrist3684 Před 10 měsíci

      So many reasons why this is a bad take. 1) China has a no first use policy on nukes 2) You don't need nukes to obliterated Taiwan, remember how the USA fire bombed Tokyo? We got better ones these days 3) A complete naval blockade would cripple the economy, where China can just shoot cargo ships and prevent export import 4) Invasion of Taiwan was never about destroying them, from reuniting them like East and West Germany
      Bottom line is, this "secret plan" would never work because it would never escalate to this level of hatred AND there's way better ways to cripple Taiwan. China will most likely just take a chapter from US's book with "economic sanctions" enforced by the military.

    • @thoughttransmitter5555
      @thoughttransmitter5555 Před 10 měsíci +125

      Stopping war through thought (i.e deterrence) isn’t a war crime. And in any case: If China were to use nuclear weapons against Taiwan they would already be guilty of such evil, that any retaliation would be far more karma, than evil (no matter how evil it would be).

  • @dennisenright9347
    @dennisenright9347 Před 10 měsíci +733

    Might the weaponization of a water reservoir apply in the dispute between Egypt and Ethiopia over the Blue Nile? Filling the reservoir behind the dam as quickly as possible might make the GERD impossible to destroy as the catastrophic release of the full reservoir could overwhelm downstream dams like Aswan and cause floods as far away as Cairo and the Nile delta

    • @anitagorse9204
      @anitagorse9204 Před 10 měsíci +30

      Yes. If Egypt plans a move it will come soon.

    • @soothinglycool9806
      @soothinglycool9806 Před 10 měsíci

      Urgency to counter and conquer desalination is immense. Not doing so guarantees war across the globe.

    • @jimdoe9827
      @jimdoe9827 Před 10 měsíci +56

      Filling the GERD asap is an existential threat for downstream countries, exactly for the reason that it would cause multi-year droughts.

    • @drbuckley1
      @drbuckley1 Před 10 měsíci +16

      Water is at the core of a great many international conflicts today.

    • @anitagorse9204
      @anitagorse9204 Před 10 měsíci +37

      @@drbuckley1 And of many more future conflicts. This time it won't be about gold and oil, but food and water. This is how far we came as a species...

  • @melikechoc0
    @melikechoc0 Před 5 měsíci

    Like the meme with Poland pointing to Article 5, Taiwan pointing to the Three Gorges Dam with missles.

  • @unassailable6138
    @unassailable6138 Před 9 měsíci +61

    I spoke to a Taiwanese General two years ago, and he mentioned the Three Gorges Dam is in plotted solutions of over twenty Taiwanese silos as well as Taiwanese submarines as a target. He said the salve of warheads is unstoppable as many will be fired simultaneously and at least 5 will hit it and its entourage dams.

    • @ZweiZwolf
      @ZweiZwolf Před 9 měsíci

      Yes, and what would be the likely response?
      Wouldn't China simply flatten the entire island, killing everyone and destroying everything, and then 'invade' the empty island?
      Destroying dams to kill millions of civilians is a clear, direct violation of the Geneva Conventions, and means that the Republic of China would no longer have such protections themselves. With China having vastly more firepower, you don't think they're prepared to respond?

    • @hkfoo3333
      @hkfoo3333 Před 9 měsíci

      that general does not know the strength of the DAM.
      The Dam can ONLY be destroyed by a nuke . No ordinary bomb can really damage the dam.
      it is well protected and in time of war the water in the 3 gorges dam will be lowered .
      In WW2 they tried to destroy a dam and could not.

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Před 9 měsíci

      if tawian does that,,, its considered a war crime because they are deliberate targeting INNOCENT PEOPLE...

    • @Nauda999
      @Nauda999 Před 9 měsíci

      I didn't know Taiwanese have submarines.
      Now let's wait and see if this actually happens.

    • @Jareers-ef8hp
      @Jareers-ef8hp Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yea but don’t you think that China already knows this? China has literally one of the best and most powerful air defense systems in the world and in large quantities. China can just move a bunch of those systems all around the dam and ensure that nothing will be able to penetrate it.

  • @Thomas-xd4cx
    @Thomas-xd4cx Před 9 měsíci +17

    You know it's really not so secret when you tell everyone about it

    • @Love2Cruise
      @Love2Cruise Před 9 měsíci +3

      It’s a MAD threat. Of course it needs to be known, at least to the pertinent parties.

    • @AlexDrewsumin
      @AlexDrewsumin Před 2 měsíci

      They want people to know. For two reasons, as a detorent and so if it does ever happen the people in China will know their government was warned.

  • @HumanAction76
    @HumanAction76 Před 10 měsíci +483

    It would be insane to believe China doesn't have the air space between Taiwan and the dam protected.

    • @user-gc1hg9sp9k
      @user-gc1hg9sp9k Před 10 měsíci +188

      And blowing up a dam are consider a huge war crime becauss most of the casualties are civillian

    • @slomo4672
      @slomo4672 Před 10 měsíci +120

      It's surely protected. But how good is that protection?

    • @joaomartins8758
      @joaomartins8758 Před 10 měsíci +102

      Taiwan could never reach that damn in a million years.

    • @FRIPPE_THE_GREAT
      @FRIPPE_THE_GREAT Před 10 měsíci +160

      I'm quite sure the would reach the dam. Just ask Russia about the drones that hit downtown Moscow yesterday. And the drones are not sophisticated; damaging the dam enough is another thing.

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 Před 10 měsíci +90

      @@FRIPPE_THE_GREAT You might want to look up the distance involved.

  • @kzsposeidon3121
    @kzsposeidon3121 Před 10 měsíci +897

    The dam is between 40m (131ft) and 115m (377ft) thick. Would be really interesting to know, how much (and what kind of) ordonance would be required to catastrophically damage it.
    You'd have to damage the lower, eg thicker, parts to collapse it. Even regarding some pre-existing cracks and rooms inside the dam, 70-80m (250ft) of reinforced concrete is a lot, bunker buster or not

    • @Iamthestig42069
      @Iamthestig42069 Před 10 měsíci +122

      Dozens of bunker busters around the dam, causing a localized earthquake? Since it’s on water I’d bet the ground around it has a ton of water in it. Use the bombs to create liquefaction?

    • @harsectinal
      @harsectinal Před 10 měsíci +284

      Reinforced by tofu isn't the same as rebar.

    • @henriconfucius5559
      @henriconfucius5559 Před 10 měsíci +144

      It doesnt need to be completely destroyed, it just needs enough structural damage in the centre of pressure to cause catastrophic failure. Thinking in equivalent concrete thickness, that would mean destroying a bit more than the margin of safety they projected the dam with. Even if its just 1/5 of the thickness, still a lot of concrete lmao
      And it would need to be done more than 3 times. Either the best saboteours in the world, a huge swarm of supersonic missiles, or some hypersonic missiles.

    • @nadine2185
      @nadine2185 Před 10 měsíci +110

      just need a little bit of damage, and the water pressure will do the rest..

    • @Verrisin
      @Verrisin Před 10 měsíci +97

      considering the concerns about the concrete quality ... it might not need much.

  • @katalytically
    @katalytically Před 9 měsíci +1

    Concrete gravity dams are difficult to damage significantly but 3 Gorges is vulnerable. There is a question concerning it's foundation. All dams need a solid foundation and there is a question about the foundation for the dam and also where the sides of the dam anchor into the hills on either side. This is possibly borne out by the fact that China does not generally allow the reservoir to reach maximum height which could mean that the foundation is not stable enough to handle the increased stress from a full reservoir. So attacking the dam itself probably will not damage it sufficiently to achieve the desired result, attacking the dam and it's anchorages might be sufficient. Water is a powerful force when unleashed, just look at the damage when there are floods in many areas of the world. It is also sufficiently powerful to damage a concrete dam sufficiently to cause massive flooding downstream. Flooding downstream of 3 Gorges Dam is particularly problematic. There was one case, maybe more, of the Chinese government releasing too much water from the dam and causing widespread flooding and damage downstream, and that was a controlled release so it would not require a massive breach of the dam to cause catastrophic damage. So bunker busting warheads that target the foot of the dam along it's entire length could cause failure of the dam. It would be like knocking the legs out from under a chair. Add several more targeting the dam and there should be enough to achieve the desired result.
    The whole thing about China releasing water to slowly drain the reservoir is a good way to prevent catastrophic flooding, the Chinese government will need to watch how quickly it releases the water or else it will create the flooding itself. And another tactic, once the longer range missiles are available, would be to target the dams upstream of the 3 Gorges at the same time. Failure of even one of those dams could dump enough water into the reservoir to over-top the dam probably resulting in failure of the dam.

  • @sherifalaa3523
    @sherifalaa3523 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Good Episode .. we need an episode about the Ethiopian GERD and Egyptian army capabilities..

  • @jonah9905
    @jonah9905 Před 10 měsíci +198

    if it was secret we wouldnt know about it

    • @morphkogan8627
      @morphkogan8627 Před 10 měsíci +60

      literally lol. Already read about this being a possible strategy like 2 years ago. Im sure China is well aware

    • @HolyXerxes
      @HolyXerxes Před 10 měsíci +21

      Yeah, I love this channel so much but I hate when he need to put bait title like that, if its a secret then you wont be talking about it. Only reason you talking about it because is already make public.

    • @bolsa3136
      @bolsa3136 Před 10 měsíci +26

      Thats the point. Its deterrance. Like saying you have nukes.

    • @jonah9905
      @jonah9905 Před 10 měsíci +15

      @@bolsa3136 yep, the plan would be worthless if it was secret

    • @rodrigopaim82
      @rodrigopaim82 Před 10 měsíci

      Secret can be just non official. Like the "secret" atomic weapons that Israel has

  • @hydra70
    @hydra70 Před 10 měsíci +241

    There is another problem with this plan that makes it extremely dangerous for Taiwan. Mutually Assured Destruction depends on a capability to hit back at an enemy that initiates a nuclear first strike against you. If the PRC can prevent an attack like this with a nuclear first strike against Taiwan, then Taiwan either needs the ability to launch an attack on the dam with just a few minutes notice, or they need the ability to launch such an attack even after a nuclear strike from the PRC. Otherwise the PRC is heavily incentivized to go nuclear if they think there is even the slightest chance that Taiwan is about to attack the dam.

    • @slomo4672
      @slomo4672 Před 10 měsíci

      China repeatedly states that it will not be the first to use nuclear weapons.

    • @justinbarker4813
      @justinbarker4813 Před 10 měsíci

      I think if China were to go preemtively nuclear, it would completely shut them off from the West and many other regions of the world indefinitely such that they would still cause themselves catastrophic damage. China I would believe is thinking of a way to do an attack where countries will slowly return to do business with them over a decade or so. I think going full nuclear will seal them of the same as North Korea

    • @simpleandawesomeanime3220
      @simpleandawesomeanime3220 Před 10 měsíci +93

      The PRC doing a nuclear first-strike against taiwan would literally be opening Pandora's Box and heighten tensions in the Pacific to dangerous levels.

    • @12vscience
      @12vscience Před 10 měsíci +9

      Taiwan or an ally could also prevent oil tankers from reaching China through the straights.

    • @caralho5237
      @caralho5237 Před 10 měsíci

      China doesnt want to destroy Taiwan. Taiwan is like a treasure chest to them. They wanna take it over

  • @wetbobspongepants
    @wetbobspongepants Před 9 měsíci +7

    Two rules of war:
    1. There is No such thing as Overkill.
    2. If Brute force isn't working, You're NOT using enough.

  • @chrislee9166
    @chrislee9166 Před 9 měsíci +28

    It's never a secret both to China and Taiwan, I lived in China when I was a kid and I heard of that when I was 8 or 9. The dam is far from TW, India or every direction it may be attacked, and it's huge which makes it difficult to collapse. Also it won't be a huge disaster if it collapse, cuz there still are several huge dams on Yangtze river, which ranks themselves NO.4 NO.6 and No.8 worldwide which will reduce the harm. Besides, even if it been destroyed, it won't be a mutual destruction, I mean, several cities like Wuhan and Nanjing will be destroyed but most part in China will be safe, but it will result in nuclear attacks towards Taiwan immediatly. I don‘t think it's a good idea for TW to do that.

    • @jpb2366
      @jpb2366 Před 8 měsíci +16

      If you are fighting for survival all gloves are off…

    • @dane5692
      @dane5692 Před 7 měsíci +8

      estimated 40 million deaths at minimum, China loses any chance of getting those factories. Taiwan may not win, but neither does China.

    • @paladinzzy
      @paladinzzy Před 7 měsíci +2

      Agree. Why are they making such a big fuzz about the collapse of the dam? During normal days, even if the dam collapses due to any reason, it won't make as much damage as a large scale flood like the one happened in 1998. And Yangtze river has frequent floods during the monsoon season.
      The power of the dam has been over-exaggerated by this video.

    • @Hey1234Hey
      @Hey1234Hey Před 5 měsíci +4

      If one dam collapses the other dams won't be able to handle the massive tsunami that will follow after the massive potential energy in the water from the first dam that collapses is released. And with every dam that gets struck by such a colossal tsunami and collapses, the potential energy gets recharged because all the dams do, is hold more potential energy. Like a domino effect. More dams makes it worse, not better. In fact less dams means no more recharge of potential energy and the tsunami will expend faster the more distance it will travel. All the likes in your comment is genuine cope and lack of understanding.

    • @chrislee9166
      @chrislee9166 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@Hey1234Hey Maybe you should learn how a gravity dam works at first. Those dams are located on the upstream of this one firstly and second, a gravity dam collapsing has far less effect than you think, unlike an arch dam.

  • @Moribus_Artibus
    @Moribus_Artibus Před 10 měsíci +106

    I don't always watch CaspianReport, but when I do it's for Shirvan's one liners.

    • @user-gs8jv4oq6w
      @user-gs8jv4oq6w Před 10 měsíci +3

      I think he is overdoing it… a bit cringey

  • @Dhdh365
    @Dhdh365 Před 10 měsíci +223

    If the US had let Taiwan complete its nuclear deterrence program decades ago, it might have prevented the threat of invasion and world war we face today.

    • @eduwino151
      @eduwino151 Před 10 měsíci

      am pretty sure Taiwan has missiles loaded with dirty bombs specifically to turn Chinese cities into radiocative wastelands

    • @tadhgcronin175
      @tadhgcronin175 Před 10 měsíci

      You are quite right. Every country should have them. Screw health care and housing, let's get nukes.

    • @FukUparacohpta73
      @FukUparacohpta73 Před 10 měsíci

      Never heard of China invading other countries. The EEUU on the other hand.....

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j Před 10 měsíci +3

      3 shadow reply

    • @yankeegohome5154
      @yankeegohome5154 Před 10 měsíci +45

      And if the USA didn't exist in the first place we had world p.... never mind.

  • @sethwatkins5586
    @sethwatkins5586 Před 9 měsíci

    We should just collaborate the wave in relation to the shield; like antimissle system and ramp up the power to tectonic plates, it would take decades to out think that defense and also superbadass, like driving an island!

  • @Cannon500
    @Cannon500 Před 9 měsíci +15

    Although this plan seems plausible, it is not very practical. The main problem is that the long range cruise missile Taiwan has lacks the payload to deliver a knockout blow. If we look at the Ukraine war, we can see both sides needs at least multiple cruise missile hits on major infrastructure targets to even cause a small amount of damage. The other problem is getting the missiles to their destination and hit the target. China has Taiwan under 24/7 surveillance through their spy satellites, listening positions, and radars, so any major cruise missile launch will be immediately detected by the Chinese military. The missiles will then need to travel all way to the dam through layers and layers of Chinese missile defenses, interceptors, and jamming. Cruise missiles does not have a 100% hit rate even under perfect conditions, so you need at least a handful of missiles to reach its destinations and bypass all the defenses to even have a chance. The chances of a successful missile strike on the Three Gorges Dam is too low unless you are able to achieve air dominance over mainland China.

    • @SerfinBird
      @SerfinBird Před 7 měsíci +2

      You don't need air dominance. Drones in Ukraine get through both sides defenses and misses from both get through both's defenses. With enough missiles it would make it through. Chinese military assets have routinely been worse than both western and Russian assets. There is no reason to think that their air defense systems would be any different.

    • @dominusdone5023
      @dominusdone5023 Před 7 měsíci

      russias air defense system is kinda ehh tho@@SerfinBird

    • @ashvandal5697
      @ashvandal5697 Před 6 měsíci

      People were saying this about Russia and Russia has had several embarrassing strikes in its actual territory. Russian air defense tech isn’t actually very good. And China mostly copies them, and literally all of their tech is untested and unproven in combat.

  • @socket_error1000
    @socket_error1000 Před 10 měsíci +318

    During WW2 the allies had several failed bombing attempts to take out dams that were critical to the German war effort. Until they developed dam-buster bombs that would skip along the surface of the reservoir right up to the wall of the dam after being dropped by low flying planes. The bombs, more like reinforced barrels, would then sink down behind the wall of the dam and explode at depth, putting maximum pressure on the dam at the lowest point. This allowed all the pressure of the water to help work with the force of the explosion. This was very effective and they blew up several dams key to the German war effort. The damage was so severe to civilians downriver, taking out entire villages, that in the aftermath it was decided that this type of warfare should be outlawed and made a war crime. Back then bombing and other types of warfare was so inaccurate that killing civilians anywhere near the target area was just considered part of war. Unlike today when we are outraged when a bomb or missile goes astray in a warzone by even 100' and hits a civilian structure.

    • @bobjacobson858
      @bobjacobson858 Před 9 měsíci +14

      However, is "outrage" really a deterrent? It may simply cause politicians to wring their hands, with no real consequences beyond that.

    • @socket_error1000
      @socket_error1000 Před 9 měsíci +10

      @@bobjacobson858 Such an act would be seen as a terrorist act and result in most nations turning their backs on the attacker.
      If Taiwan did this and killed the number of people that even the lowest estimates claim are at risk, it would be one of the worst deliberate acts of mass murder since 1938, the last time they deliberately flooded the Yellow river in an effort to try and stop the Japanese advance, killing some 90k of their own people outright and 300k-500k from famine and disease in the months that followed.
      Even the USA and its allies in the region would have to find a way to secure Taiwan and unseat the current government after such an action or let them fall to the CCP and lose control of shipping trade in the region.

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@socket_error1000 however, I have a feeling this plan will never be inacted until something like literally dropping nuclear bombs upon Taiwan, which knowing China wants an alive Taiwan, I doubt

    • @inigomontoya3750
      @inigomontoya3750 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Old school mentality

    • @lancetheking7524
      @lancetheking7524 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@inigomontoya3750 then become part of the dead statistics my friend

  • @nathansamuelson
    @nathansamuelson Před 10 měsíci +435

    The problem with dams, especially large ones, is that they aren't uniformly thick. They typically widen to a foot at the base and contain rooms for workers and turbines. Could you knock out it's ability to produce power? Yes, easily. Turn it into an on demand tsunami? You'd likely need a nuke, a powerful kinetic weapon, or a lot of bunker busters.

    • @benjaminbatema6963
      @benjaminbatema6963 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Or a water hammer.

    • @shadesmarerik4112
      @shadesmarerik4112 Před 10 měsíci +87

      Given that something like that happened already without nukes on the yellow river: no.. u dont need nukes to break a dam.

    • @degreeskelvin3025
      @degreeskelvin3025 Před 10 měsíci +75

      Remember that the entire dam doesn't need to break for the water to break through. You just need to break SOME of it

    • @streetrider2487
      @streetrider2487 Před 10 měsíci +87

      @@degreeskelvin3025 Once a crack appears, the massive volume n mass of water will do the rest. Think of the Titan sub..... hahaha

    • @itnotmeitu3896
      @itnotmeitu3896 Před 10 měsíci

      Not to mention if war broke out the Chinese would fortify the ever living fuck out of it with countless anti missile systems

  • @mrspaceman2764
    @mrspaceman2764 Před 9 měsíci

    Anyone else notice the Buda statue at 3:52 has windows on it's back? That would be a cool place to live/work.

  • @billyesomann
    @billyesomann Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much for your Comedy, very entertaining

  • @EarlofSalop
    @EarlofSalop Před 9 měsíci +204

    I spent 6 months teaching in Xiaogan and met a member of the PLA airborne division. He was an NCO and still had never jumped out of a plane. He and his colleagues would pay their major so they never had to turn up. He sold hashish to do this.
    China is wild.

    • @petergilkes7082
      @petergilkes7082 Před 9 měsíci +11

      A good story. Story!

    • @whocare3704
      @whocare3704 Před 9 měsíci

      As wild as your mother, liar

    • @xinggao-to5cp
      @xinggao-to5cp Před 9 měsíci +12

      A story which is insane,It goes without saying that not everyone should serve in the military in mainland China,if that NCO is truth why would he/she serve for the military if he is that rich to pay their major. If that NCO is a nepo baby why he only got a NCO? Those nepo baby will go to Military College and became lieutenant at the day graduate and get the bachelor degree😂😂😂How stupid the story is

    • @bodazephyr6629
      @bodazephyr6629 Před 9 měsíci +20

      yeh, the PLA is a paper tiger. They failed to take Hanoi in 1979 and that was against Vietnamese support troops and militias. The best Vietnamese troops were in Cambodia at the time, and still the Chinese couldn't win.

    • @petergilkes7082
      @petergilkes7082 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@bodazephyr6629 They didn't even try.

  • @bencopeland3560
    @bencopeland3560 Před 10 měsíci +141

    If it’s a Mutually Assured Destruction strategy, then isn’t it important that it not be a “Secret Plan”?

    • @airking2883
      @airking2883 Před 10 měsíci +17

      ​@@michachochulski6015that's what OP is saying

    • @STFUGOOGLE420
      @STFUGOOGLE420 Před 10 měsíci +16

      ​@@airking2883not in the vid title though, he is clickbaiting by calling ir secret

    • @EdMcF1
      @EdMcF1 Před 10 měsíci +17

      The mode of delivery would be kept secret, the prospect should be self-evident. Red China will have considered its own vulnerabilities and it would have occurred to them anyway. The Dambusters was not just a film, Barnes Wallis's Upkeeps lit the fuze, as it were.

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 Před 10 měsíci

      Only secret to you and me... not secret to the CCP and Taiwan and the US! They are very well aware what the weak points are!

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@EdMcF1 there are only so many ways to transport hundreds of tons of explosives to a target. Taiwan has neither the heavy bombers or the missiles capable of lobbing that much mass.

  • @gmwpphs1899
    @gmwpphs1899 Před 8 měsíci +47

    I'm a Chinese-American, a citizen of the United States of course, but I have families back in China, and it'd hurt me both physically and mentally to see my families being wiped out while not offending the political sides of each country... I'm in a extremely tough spot right now. I really do hope this war would never break out, best wishes for peace.

    • @Lobos222
      @Lobos222 Před 8 měsíci

      These types of doctrines are put forward and indirectly leaked to prevent, in this case, China seriously considering strategic bombing of Taiwan or even an invasion.

    • @mathish1477
      @mathish1477 Před 7 měsíci +8

      I hope you never have to pick a side. At least being an American, you are free to pick!

    • @r2com641
      @r2com641 Před 6 měsíci +5

      @@mathish1477America? Free? Lmao

    • @Mshi-
      @Mshi- Před 5 měsíci +8

      ​@r2om641 much freer than Maoist China

    • @djwheels6615
      @djwheels6615 Před 5 měsíci

      The entire world should hope this war doesn’t break out. There will not be another war. But our hopes are very likely to be in vain. Nuclear war is inevitable. Two superpowers constantly growing/racing to outpace the other both needing the same resources with conflicting interests it’s almost laughable to even consider any other outcomes. It’s a vicious cycle neither country can stop for fear of the other gaining advantage. Humanity as a whole lost when America let another country become a nuclear threat. So because of compassion and sympathy it’s wrong to invade other countries to prevent this and because of compassion and sympathy we have allowed countries to “literally” catch up to the point the entire planet WILL have a nuclear extinction. Compassion and sympathy the demise of humanity.

  • @wd357dui
    @wd357dui Před 9 měsíci

    I remember there's an entire (mainland China's) military theme TV series (in the 2000s) dedicated to this problem

  • @jonniheinisto9825
    @jonniheinisto9825 Před 10 měsíci +11

    Shirvan i have been watching your channel for about 8 to 9 years now, and i just have to give you compliments that this has to be the best geopolitics channel that i know of. You present everything in such a way that it is simultaneously very detailed, informative and clear & easy to understand, while also being highly entertaining and i would say even hypnotically captivating. The sound effects you have work to not distract but deepen the concentration on the topic itself.
    I also have to mention that i much appreciate your cold neutrality in your presentation, it is a very good quality to have. Its what a professional does.

    • @japjungho4645
      @japjungho4645 Před 10 měsíci

      neutrality? as seen from the moon? This channel is as biased as an Indian one. not gonna say the fact that if something is secret, no channel like the Caspian Sea should know.

  • @andytaylor5282
    @andytaylor5282 Před 9 měsíci +67

    Just an o'l Navy man's opinion, but those shipping locks look like a juicy target that would be economically devastating but not a cataclysmic as busting the dam, making it a lot harder for China to justify turning the island into a radio active parking lot. And the shipping locks are a lot softer than the dam it's self!

    • @johnpage7491
      @johnpage7491 Před 9 měsíci +7

      An excellent tempered response scenario. This leaves the total destruction of the dam as a continued deterrent. "o'l navy man with a plan"!! Good job sailor!

    • @JoeSmith-bf5tp
      @JoeSmith-bf5tp Před 9 měsíci

      Take China out. No one cares about those people

    • @g.williams2047
      @g.williams2047 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Very good idea. Also puts a lot of pressure on the CCP, knowing that "we already got through once, and we can do it again if we want to"

    • @j.c.4192
      @j.c.4192 Před 5 měsíci

      No such thing.
      Any response would devastate Taiwan if there is any attack on the mainland infrastructure.
      The simple fact that Taiwan imports 98% of energy needs to two ports is the crux and minimal damage to bring Taiwan to its knees. Taiwan will not be able to function at all. As 68% of its food is imported as well.

  • @teegloo
    @teegloo Před 9 měsíci +2

    That’s alarming. Human life means less and less with each passing day

  • @fanglethorpe
    @fanglethorpe Před 9 měsíci

    Why does the graphic show the flooded area going upstream from the dam as well?

  • @captmorgan3515
    @captmorgan3515 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Finally a video that mentioned the 1938 yellow river flood! It’s impossible to find a video about on CZcams. And it’s so relevant to recent events and so deadly!

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 Před 10 měsíci

      American puppet regimes really like blowing up dams.

    • @DZ477
      @DZ477 Před 10 měsíci +6

      You could literally just search the topic up.
      You will learn nothing if you just wait for things to be recommended to you.

  • @jonson856
    @jonson856 Před 10 měsíci +134

    One way to increase the pressure on the three gorges dam would be to destroy dams that are upstream of the river, if there are such structures, I am not sure. And then to target the three gorges dam directly.

    • @gold9994
      @gold9994 Před 10 měsíci

      This is the same as hitting a nuclear power reactor. It's war crime anyway.

    • @cherryartist17
      @cherryartist17 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Or use the Israeli plan. Fire missiles full of paint at the dam. The paint explosions will do no damage but it will deter China by showing that Taiwan is capable of reaching the dam.

    • @Kaihegon
      @Kaihegon Před 10 měsíci +11

      I mean, if getting far enough in to hit the Three Gorges is gonna be difficult, I could only imagine trying hit a farther target. You not only have to get past the Three Gorges defense but whatever defense is at the next dam. He also said their missile range was just far enough to hit the Three Gorges, so idk if this would be possible. Might as well just throw everything at the single target cause China could just end it all in blink for taiwan with a nuke

    • @nelsonumana9547
      @nelsonumana9547 Před 10 měsíci +11

      Taiwan might not have to do this due to the fact that it was built by China😂😂😂

    • @keezy034
      @keezy034 Před 10 měsíci +1

      CIA is that you?

  • @maaamuuu6232
    @maaamuuu6232 Před 9 měsíci +2

    China has long said that attacking the Three Gorges Dam is considered a nuclear strike and will take any measures to counter it

    • @Mycatsbirthdayparty
      @Mycatsbirthdayparty Před 7 měsíci +2

      I agree with them, it's akin to attacking civilians and should be treated as such

  • @shtrdVo1cano
    @shtrdVo1cano Před 8 měsíci

    Murually Assured Destruction is the most ultimate "F*#k around and find out" challenge.

  • @successfullguy
    @successfullguy Před 10 měsíci +13

    A catastrophic dam faliour flooding downstream would make the make covid lockdown supply chain issues look like a walk in the park

  • @sophosalpha
    @sophosalpha Před 10 měsíci +4

    If the war breaks out Taiwan has no chance against PRC. They should surrender with conditions and live with peace

    • @relaxingtrip4224
      @relaxingtrip4224 Před 12 dny

      lol look how China is vulnerable if Taiwan able to damage the three gorges dam China economy will collapse in an instant

  • @AlanTheBest97
    @AlanTheBest97 Před 9 měsíci +13

    I am an engineer and have worked on dams before. I dont think a missile strike could destroy 3 gorges. It would probably not be enough to cause a flood, 3 gorges is so huge, it would need a lot of enormous missiles, I dont know if such a thing even exists outside the relm of nuclear weapons.

    • @Ghostrider7132t
      @Ghostrider7132t Před 9 měsíci

      Well you are right about that point and Taiwan alone may not be able to destroy such a dam. However, other countries can. Especially the US who successfully used dam-buster bombs in the past. 😅

    • @belldrop7365
      @belldrop7365 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Well, the thing is, it's made in china. Chances are, it'll break by itself.

    • @alexshawcn
      @alexshawcn Před 9 měsíci

      and why would US do that, to a country that can also destroy part of US? The fact that unclear powerhouses don't fight each other directly is because of the nukes@@Ghostrider7132t

    • @unassailable6138
      @unassailable6138 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Lol,that's what they used to say about the Twin Towers. Newer missile technology can tear reinforced concrete like paper.

    • @comradesillyotter1537
      @comradesillyotter1537 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@unassailable6138this isn't really true

  • @mbtt-90ms7
    @mbtt-90ms7 Před 9 měsíci

    A dozen of manuverable re-entry vehicles (MARVs) may be the answer but those are expensive to build a maintain and only ballistic missiles can deliver them.

  • @wayfarer1844
    @wayfarer1844 Před 9 měsíci +66

    “Ultimately some actions might be worse than a crime, they might be a mistake “ - these little sayings of geopolitical wisdom are always my favorite part of the videos!
    After the analysis of course!

    • @dongpan8931
      @dongpan8931 Před 9 měsíci

      日本政府昨天召开会议宣布,2023年8月24号开始向海洋排放福岛核污染水,持续30年。日本首相岸田文雄在没有得到当地渔民和中国等周边国家的支持下,表示要快速的启动核污染水排海。截止目前居然没在国外媒体上看见有一个主流媒体报道的!真是狗脸啊!盐从哪来,海鲜,海带从哪来?

    • @pjdj
      @pjdj Před 9 měsíci +1

      I found this comment the exact moment he said that.

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Před 9 měsíci

      Better one, China’s Century of Humiliation. Will not see another, no more.

    • @wenharn
      @wenharn Před 9 měsíci

      My favorite part of the video, on the other hand, is - "When it comes to survival, nothing is contemptable."

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 Před 9 měsíci

      if tawian does that,,, its considered a war crime because they are deliberate targeting INNOCENT PEOPLE...

  • @thedownwardmachine
    @thedownwardmachine Před 10 měsíci +80

    A deterrent only works if you tell people about it, otherwise there's no point in having it.
    The Soviets did something similar in the '80s (see the book The Dead Hand) with the intent of dissuading the USA from attempting a swift decapitation strike. But because the Soviets were so paranoid, they kept it a secret. Yes this was the plot of Dr. Strangelove and yet somehow they made the same mistake two decades after the movie came out.

    • @bobcastro9386
      @bobcastro9386 Před 10 měsíci +23

      Doctor Strangelove; "But the whole point of the Doomsday Machine is lost if you keep it a secret... Why didn't you tell the world, eh?" Soviet Ambassador Alexi de Sadesky; "It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday. As you know, our premiere loves surprises."

    • @Lolophobia
      @Lolophobia Před 10 měsíci +4

      Seriously the best movie ever

    • @impossible7386
      @impossible7386 Před 10 měsíci

      Except it’s a ruse. It is a fake the same way many of Russia’s supposed capabilities turned out fraudulent. Think about it. If you just say you have it they will believe you.

    • @chamonix4658
      @chamonix4658 Před 9 měsíci +1

      What about the Israel and its nuclear weapons? They still deny having them but it clearly works as a deterrent

    • @WJV9
      @WJV9 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@Lolophobia - A 'tour de force' from actor Peter Sellers who played 3 major characters in the movie. I also enjoyed George C. Scott's performance as the head of the air force.

  • @onekingzoro8813
    @onekingzoro8813 Před 9 měsíci

    Didn't watch the video but when your secret plan is on CZcams someone likely made countermeasures against it

  • @TosoToco
    @TosoToco Před 8 měsíci +2

    If the dam ever collapses it will be because of Chinese incompetence and lack of maintenance. Taiwan would never do something like this.

  • @isaacperry9593
    @isaacperry9593 Před 9 měsíci +83

    Though admittedly a whole lot smaller than the 3 gorges, during WW2 the British developed a bomb which bounced across the water and was used on the dams in the Ruhr valley. This addresses the issue of dams' inherent resilience as the bombs would sink when they hit the dam wall and detonate at the base causing maximum damage.

    • @stevemercer5769
      @stevemercer5769 Před 9 měsíci +8

      The Barnes Wallis ‘bouncing bomb’ was revolutionary in its day, but it needed squadrons of bombers to directly approach the dam across the reservoir to deliver their payload. While he sinking bomb delivered exactly the right type of blast to disrupt the dam, there were significant losses among attacking aircraft, delivery now would be near impossible. Air defense improvements mean stand off attacks are now what air defenses arm, prepare and train for.
      If loss of these dams would be so catastrophic, you can bet the CCP will have massive air defences in the region. Even supersonic cruise missiles with a suitable payload would likely struggle to reach their target.

    • @brixenlang3207
      @brixenlang3207 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@stevemercer5769Ah yes, the original Star Wars/Top Gun Maverick mission

    • @killingheros3554
      @killingheros3554 Před 9 měsíci

      😒😒

    • @Kempi1
      @Kempi1 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@stevemercer5769 Air defense is not that effective. Look at all the attacks on Moscow. There are always ways past air defense.

    • @khiem1939
      @khiem1939 Před 9 měsíci

      Today using missiles, there would be NO bomber loss or loss of personnel!@@stevemercer5769

  • @matusknives
    @matusknives Před 10 měsíci +41

    The dam is deep into the mainland, will be well protected with AD and would take large amount of precision strikes to damage (look at the Kakhovka dam that had to be mined to be destroyed), so it sounds like daydreaming. Even if such an attack would succeed it would have little relevance to a military conflict, but would mean huge civilian losses - something that would greatly undermine any western support in such a conflict. But that does not seem to bother the author of this article. But promoting what is basically a Ponzi scheme based on artworks seems to be perfectly good idea. Apparently even 1.3M subscribers is not enough.

    • @chrisx5127
      @chrisx5127 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Considering that Southern China used to belong to Vietnam...

    • @likevin3087
      @likevin3087 Před 9 měsíci +6

      @@chrisx5127 Considering that North Vietnam used to belong to China,That's the real history!See evolution of Vietnamese script.

    • @bradgaines5091
      @bradgaines5091 Před 9 měsíci +2

      The idea here is that the attack on the dam would be carried out if Taiwan was about to cease to exist. So losing support wouldn't matter, as they'd no longer be in a position to use it.
      It's like a fighter throwing one last punch in the face before passing out. They're not going to win. They just want to get one last shot before they go down, and make it hurt.

    • @user-vs7jm2bo8b
      @user-vs7jm2bo8b Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@bradgaines5091天真的想法,凭什么觉得共产党会蠢到连台湾最后一击都防不住,如果真是如此,解放军也不必将美军当做假想敌,不如早点投降算了

    • @cemdursun
      @cemdursun Před 9 měsíci

      It is deemed as a last resort if an attack on Taiwan is imminent, until that it's a deterrence. Civilian losses in Taiwan vs Civilian loses in Taiwan.
      Furthermore, you would be surprised how much more Western support would arise in such a conflict since it'd mark the start of World War III.

  • @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
    @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek Před 9 měsíci

    Fascinating Analysis!!!

  • @ZaapielSK-9126
    @ZaapielSK-9126 Před 9 měsíci

    You don't have to precisionally targets the dams concrete, What you just need to do is just let a pressure of water go big to the point that it can't hold it off... for example an explosion from its base, a shockwave or a quake....

  • @Medicine91
    @Medicine91 Před 10 měsíci +63

    That's a dam good plan.

    • @vee-bee-a
      @vee-bee-a Před 10 měsíci +5

      Finally, some-one said it. 😂

    • @joemaloney1019
      @joemaloney1019 Před 10 měsíci

      Damn you beat me to it!

    • @Reachland02
      @Reachland02 Před 10 měsíci +1

      While it’s a dam good plan for war it’s also a dam worst idea for humanity too 😂

    • @joemaloney1019
      @joemaloney1019 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Reachland02 Go on don't hold anything back!

    • @relaxingtrip4224
      @relaxingtrip4224 Před 12 dny

      ​@@Reachland02war doesn't determine who is right,but who is left...

  • @breezyx976
    @breezyx976 Před 10 měsíci +50

    Why would destroying the dam cause damage upstream of it? I think you might be highlighting the entire drainage basin instead of the actual affected area...

    • @iulianavasiloaia2926
      @iulianavasiloaia2926 Před 10 měsíci

      It's called war propaganda. It doesn't need to make sense.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Simple. Terrain adjusted to immense mass of water sequestered and sudden surge of such mass (which, mind you even affected earths rotation!) would cause not only undercutting shores but also sudden relief of newly established tensions after filling the reservioir. It would affect weather patterns. This is almost 40 cubic KILOMETERS of water; 4x Kachovka reservoir.

    • @iulianavasiloaia2926
      @iulianavasiloaia2926 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@piotrd.4850 "Simple" :D
      Btw, has the Kachovka reservoir incident wiped out most of Ukraine? Half of Ukraine? Even a 20th of Ukraine?

  • @holyheretic3185
    @holyheretic3185 Před 9 měsíci

    "it is an undeniable and may I say fundamental quality of man that when faced with extinction, every alternative is preferable."

  • @Cityb0y85
    @Cityb0y85 Před 5 měsíci

    China is like “u cant attack me, only I can attack u” 😅

  • @baahcusegamer4530
    @baahcusegamer4530 Před 10 měsíci +51

    No one ever has a good day making an amphibious assault against a well-prepared enemy. China hopefully has someone at the top reminding the others that “one does not simply walk into Mordor” and Taiwan is very much Mordor in this scenario.

    • @J_X999
      @J_X999 Před 10 měsíci

      China isn't invading Taiwan. Not until their economy calms down.

    • @JackHawkinswrites
      @JackHawkinswrites Před 10 měsíci +6

      A million man swim

    • @user-op8fg3ny3j
      @user-op8fg3ny3j Před 10 měsíci +7

      That's what the Germans thought on D-Day

    • @adamdymke8004
      @adamdymke8004 Před 10 měsíci +1

      And yet it is still a military operation that is frequently necessary. Also supremacy in the air and volume of fire can cover over a multitude of sins.

    • @pakde8002
      @pakde8002 Před 10 měsíci +16

      Assuming China actually cares about it's people as individuals would be a mistake.
      The fallen soldiers families will be lucky to get a card from the CCP thanking them for the sacrifice of their family member.

  • @cesargonzalez4146
    @cesargonzalez4146 Před 10 měsíci +9

    There are lots of caveats to this plan, it's like 1,200 km from the possible points of launch, it's surrounded by mountains and other terrain features, it requires a lot of explosive material to be demolished, and there would be air defenses and interception atemps from the beginning of the attack. There's also like one thousand more immediate and easy targets just less than one hundred kilometers from the possible launch points, warehouses, refineries, bridges, highways, ports, shipping facilities, military bases, including airbases and naval bases.

    • @user-qi6pv9jh7o
      @user-qi6pv9jh7o Před 10 měsíci +1

      But attacking something else won't potentially kill tens of millions people

    • @cesargonzalez4146
      @cesargonzalez4146 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@user-qi6pv9jh7o The CCP is pretty much willing to receive some of what for most other governments would be catastrophic casualties, their propaganda apparatus will make those people into martirs of the revolution or something, what will really hurt them is losing industrial and logistic capabilities, things that support their war effort and allow them to endure the inevitable international sanctions and would allow them quick recovery after the war. I'm not pro CCP but Taiwan can't win this war alone, their best initial strategy is hurt the PRC as much as they can and endure the attack while their allies launch their response.

    • @RealBoiJare
      @RealBoiJare Před 9 měsíci +2

      All those other targets wouldn’t instantly decimate a large portion of China though. So it wouldn’t achieve the same goal

    • @rootkhan3254
      @rootkhan3254 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Taiwan is an ally with the US which is the most heavily invested nation in the world in Stealth flying technology 😂 if this plan would be as catastrophic to China as these analysts make it seem, the west could do it overnight with little to no effort

    • @joaomelo7018
      @joaomelo7018 Před 9 měsíci

      Most importantly Taiwan is only some 200kms long, the Three Gorges Dam is two kilometers wide in the Eastern facing direction, 200m thick. The actual possible trajectories for a ballistic missile are minimal and for cruise missiles you would have to sacrifice range for evasion and that basically rules out Taiwan's missile arsenal from succeeding in such an endeavor.

  • @RamPuppy
    @RamPuppy Před 8 měsíci +1

    I would think detonating cruise missiles/bombs in the water behind the dam might have more destructive potential, using the weight of all that water as a force multiplier. I mean that dam has already moved on it's own...

  • @gregorykillen4564
    @gregorykillen4564 Před 9 měsíci

    That's a hell of a game changer !!!!!! Not to mention the lingering after effects !!!!!

  • @grimmWednesday
    @grimmWednesday Před 10 měsíci +76

    Hitting Three Gorges is the most obvious move given its importance and vulnerability. I can’t imagine it’s secret to anyone who’s thought about the issue for two minutes.

    • @leontrotsky8505
      @leontrotsky8505 Před 10 měsíci +8

      The point isnt for it to be secret , but for it to be well known, especially in china, so that tiwain is capable of deterring an attack or abandonment by it's allies

    • @tritium1998
      @tritium1998 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Threatening the Three Gorges is like threatening its cities directly anyway. Either way it's a total war with civilians you won't start unless you're suicidal.

    • @linphilip6389
      @linphilip6389 Před 9 měsíci +6

      You are assuming Taiwan is still alive before they can strike China. This video is silly and you are too if you believe it.

    • @elessartelcontar9415
      @elessartelcontar9415 Před 9 měsíci +6

      In 1977, Article 56 of the Protocol I amendment to the Geneva Conventions outlawed attacks on dams "if such attack may cause the release of dangerous forces from the works or installations and consequent severe losses among the civilian population".

    • @tmog1000
      @tmog1000 Před 9 měsíci +4

      @elessartelcontar9415 Yeah wonderful words if you are not being attacked

  • @MrAaaaazzzzz00009999
    @MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I hope some day this channel can return to historical videos

  • @GeorgeNzioki-ls6nn
    @GeorgeNzioki-ls6nn Před 9 měsíci

    Well maybe the plo better start making mitigation efforts of maybe evacuating the threatened areas to possible high altitude zones

  • @edsacks
    @edsacks Před 9 měsíci +1

    The water is a problem for the mainland now The Drinking water is so polluted. The mainland is in bad shape!!

  • @simonmeszaros2770
    @simonmeszaros2770 Před 9 měsíci +9

    we ve seen same thing happened in nova kachovka. huge dam was partially destroyed and villages were flooded up the roofs. but there were not so many causalties and in this case i think depending on terrain the reault would be similar. not much damage. if dan would collapse in one shot as a whole than the wave would have an impact, otherwise you can see how water flows through a hole. nothing "dramatic" so again execution is a key and wety unlikely such a dam could be wiped out with one huge salvo.

    • @Tamachii12
      @Tamachii12 Před 9 měsíci +2

      The thing isn't about casualties, if that dam goes down, it will basically flood 70% of the industrial capacity and at least 50% of the military complex so it is more on material damage side...

    • @Akrilloth
      @Akrilloth Před 9 měsíci

      The Ukrainian dam was also of incomparable quality, this dam is so corner-cut and mistreated you would just need a little explosive push for the whole thing to shatter.

    • @simonmeszaros2770
      @simonmeszaros2770 Před 9 měsíci

      @@Akrilloth who knows...mass of concrete is a mass of concrete. gravity works, material is interconnected, its type of gravity structure not a dynamic one.. There are definitely type of explosives which can make a huge hole, transform concrete into sand in a milisconds. But that dam is also huge. Not easy task.

    • @Akrilloth
      @Akrilloth Před 9 měsíci

      @@simonmeszaros2770 just look up tofu construction. If it was actually concrete, that would be one thing, but every chinese mega project so far have used "concrete" you could crumble with your hands due to the absurd amount of budget embezzlement happening with all these show pieces.

  • @TheAstrobiologistOW
    @TheAstrobiologistOW Před 10 měsíci +4

    The ecological damage from blowing that dam would be utterly cataclysmic

  • @muhuashen196
    @muhuashen196 Před 10 měsíci +56

    As a Chinese from PRC, I hope we never go to war with Taiwan and us brothers should always be together. ❤

    • @muhuashen196
      @muhuashen196 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@thotslayer9914 Yessir, Ghelper

    • @Veritas-dq2hs
      @Veritas-dq2hs Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​@@thotslayer9914it's very common in China

    • @c4sualcycl0ps48
      @c4sualcycl0ps48 Před 10 měsíci

      That’s a bit of a contradictory statement. The hypothetical war is all about reunification.

    • @Veritas-dq2hs
      @Veritas-dq2hs Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@c4sualcycl0ps48 there could be reunification without war you know.

    • @c4sualcycl0ps48
      @c4sualcycl0ps48 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Veritas-dq2hs based on the current policies of both parties involved that has an extremely low probability of happening.

  • @jonassvelander1622
    @jonassvelander1622 Před 10 měsíci +6

    "War does not determine who is Right, only who is Left." Haha I love a subtle and smart sense of humor! Kind regards from Sweden!

  • @winstonsmiths2449
    @winstonsmiths2449 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Also, what are the odds that the damn has hidden structural flaws, water seepage, geological deformation around the dam?

  • @HowardCole-we3bw
    @HowardCole-we3bw Před 9 měsíci

    You need only compromise the integrity of 3GD in vulnerable places; the immense pressure of reservoir behind the dam will do the rest.

  • @hyhhy
    @hyhhy Před 10 měsíci +31

    If you think China has not considered and is not actively considering such threats and how to deal with them, you live in a dream world.

    • @soothinglycool9806
      @soothinglycool9806 Před 10 měsíci

      Still China cant do squat against hypersonic missiles or F 35's. One way traffic to the 3 gorges.

    • @hughmungus2760
      @hughmungus2760 Před 10 měsíci

      the only real threat to the dam is from the use of nuclear weapons. In which case china has credible second strike capability.

    • @abrahamevangelista4215
      @abrahamevangelista4215 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Anti-Missile defense is an area of interest for many countries. As the conflict in Ukraine has demonstrated, the economics are often in favor of the attacker. That said, presuming Taiwan is capable of destroying it, Chinese leadership practically has no choice but to defend against it, if not an extinction level event, the destruction of the 3 Gorges Dam would still surely still exterminate the party’s grip on power.

    • @user-xj7vu5cl4s
      @user-xj7vu5cl4s Před 10 měsíci +16

      @@abrahamevangelista4215😂😂😂 Which side of mainland China and Taiwan has more missiles? The only army in the world that can launch 1,000 medium-range missiles at a time is the People's Liberation Army. Taiwan has almost no missiles that can hit 1,200 kilometers, not to mention the countless air defense facilities along the way in mainland China. Secondly, ordinary medium-range missiles will not cause devastating damage to the Three Gorges Dam. If you want to destroy it, you must use nuclear weapons. So the question is, does Taiwan have nuclear weapons?

    • @vlhc4642
      @vlhc4642 Před 10 měsíci

      @@abrahamevangelista4215 Kinda like George Bush instantly got impeached after 911, right? Sometimes you have to acknowledge it's not that Chinese goverment is brilliant, it's just that its enemies are all 2 sigma to the left of the curve.
      If Taiwan has anything capable of destroying the dam the reservoir would be drained long before shooting start, and since the only thing capable of destroying it is a tactical nuke, Taiwan would have been bombed long before their nuclear program finishes.

  • @anashajmohamad8709
    @anashajmohamad8709 Před 10 měsíci +8

    This would be a war crime

    • @ilbjork
      @ilbjork Před 10 měsíci

      It is rightful defense for Taiwan.

    • @anashajmohamad8709
      @anashajmohamad8709 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@ilbjork a crime is a crime, and the world cant be better if we can justify the crimes.

    • @ephraimboateng5239
      @ephraimboateng5239 Před 10 měsíci +6

      Possibly the biggest one in history, far surpassing the holocaust, holodomor and the countless US war crimes

    • @ilbjork
      @ilbjork Před 10 měsíci

      If it could prevent invasion, it would be a great plan. Less people would die from war initiated by a dictator.

    • @davidyu3815
      @davidyu3815 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ilbjork And then Chinese nukes will sterilize the island of Taiwan then if that happens. That's the rightful defense of China. Oh, and America is not off the hook if they tried anything funny. Chinese and Russian nukes are aimed at the Calderas of America's Yellowstone Supervolcano.
      Eruption of the Yellowstone Supervolcano and it's 600x (Six hundred times) more powerful than ALL the nuclear weapons ever detonated since 1945 by ALL nations on earth as calculated by the American University of California. The eruption will make America's ENTIRE nuclear arsenal and the breaching of the three gorges dam.........look like child's play.

  • @jonl7855
    @jonl7855 Před 9 měsíci

    Seeing that massive swath of blue all over China really gives perspective on just how catastrophic it would be.

    • @GIN.356.A
      @GIN.356.A Před 9 měsíci

      Which is funny because that's not how water works. That area is the total area of both waterways that feed into and from the river. If the dam floods, it would flood down stream sure, but it would not flood anywhere close to that area. That graphic is just for sensationalism, it's not accurate. 😂😂😂

  • @derekboyt3383
    @derekboyt3383 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Nuclear deterrent without Nuclear bombs. A very sad thought indeed. I hope that such a plan never comes to fruition but I suspect that will be determined by China and how they say the care about their one people.

  • @Ar1AnX1x
    @Ar1AnX1x Před 10 měsíci +7

    only Caspian Report can make such serious and cold videos and then do an ad on raid shadow legends or something

  • @TomJerry12933
    @TomJerry12933 Před 10 měsíci +7

    how can it be a secret doomsday plan if your publishing documentation on it?

    • @robertfox6369
      @robertfox6369 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Hahaha so this is not a secret anymore.. makinh this video for the views

  • @bowlampar
    @bowlampar Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ability to strike back hard and deep into your enemy homeland is an essence of a bilateral🤔'Peace'.

  • @ezekielteklaking
    @ezekielteklaking Před 7 měsíci +5

    "War does not determine who is right only who is left" great quotes from Bertrand Russell.

    • @VunderGuy
      @VunderGuy Před 6 měsíci

      Bertrand Russel has no great quotes, so your comment is invalid.

    • @ezekielteklaking
      @ezekielteklaking Před 6 měsíci

      I have no idea who Bertrand Russel is, and make no claim to value of his quotes. I'm noting who said the quote as its custom in citing someone's else's idea or words when you use them. I think that's a valid point. @@VunderGuy

  • @indonesianchinese5724
    @indonesianchinese5724 Před 10 měsíci +28

    Support Taiwan from Indonesia!

    • @markc6140
      @markc6140 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Just keep quiet, not your call.

    • @schloops8473
      @schloops8473 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@markc6140 one should always support a country facing a dictatorship

    • @rusticbox9908
      @rusticbox9908 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@schloops8473well the Taiwanese dictatorship should've never attacked the Chinese dictatorship then...now the Chinese has to finish the war the Taiwanese government started! Incompetent losers.

    • @yogawan3805
      @yogawan3805 Před 10 měsíci

      @@schloops8473 who are you? You think you free?
      You not better, u are slave to richest and you subject to main stream media propaganda.
      Are you creating your own laws? no the richest do using politician lobbying.
      Tell me, why until today USA can't implement gun control nation wide? Because it's NRA money that funded politician in Washington.

    • @MmmM-uo6ti
      @MmmM-uo6ti Před 10 měsíci

      Papua merdeka kawan

  • @rejvaik00
    @rejvaik00 Před 10 měsíci +54

    3 things for context:
    1) To understand the scope of the disaster if the 3 gorges dam ever failed;
    The entirety of the population of the United States is about 380 millon and Canada is about 30 million, meaning a death toll of 400+ million to put into perspective is like wiping every single person in the US and nearly all of that in Canada off the face of the Earth
    2) Needless destruction of civilian infrastructure is today considered a war crime;
    Civilian infrastructure such as dams can no longer be targeted by militaries unless very specific circumstances allow for it such as if the dam was being used as a base of operations in command and control for the adversary in question
    And even then a competent military commander would recognize the threat of the potential dam and be very precise in their targeting to limit the structural damage
    3) Whoever ordered the complete destruction on the dam would be the newest mass murderer in history;
    A 400 million loss of life would make the Austrian painter and the Soviet crime boss, and the Chinese communist leader be regulated to water droplets in the newest ocean of blood and the conflict from that would surpass WW2 as the deadliest conflict in the history of mankind

    • @coltrueg
      @coltrueg Před 10 měsíci

      Counterpoint no one cares what is and is not considered a war crime during times of war. See the dam Russia blew up Nova Kokhovka.
      Killing hundreds of millions of people who are invading your country with the goal of eradicating it is a non issue.
      Very unfortunate.

    • @theelvensong4328
      @theelvensong4328 Před 10 měsíci +17

      Of course this will be a terrible tragedy but the blame will not just fall on the one who ordered it, but also on the one who provoked it.

    • @user-sn1se8kh7z
      @user-sn1se8kh7z Před 10 měsíci +28

      Don’t invade Taiwan.

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 Před 10 měsíci

      @@theelvensong4328 A small yes but mostly a resounding no, it is unlawful and unpardonable to both willingly and knowingly target civilian infrastructure when conducting wartime operations
      unless the conditions for targeting are astoundingly proven to have turned that civilian target into a military one
      China will definitely be at fault as an instigator for the hypothetical Sino - Taiwanese conflict, but if Taiwan did respond in kind and was successful in utilizing this plan then the condemnation would flip back on to themselves
      Something Taiwan is aware of, and that's why they use it as a means of deterrence
      Luckily for the rest of the world and all supporters of Taiwan, such as myself,
      it serves it's purpose best by acting as a deterrent, and it is a very _VERY_ good deterrent that allows Taiwan to smugly say to a nation 50 times it's size:
      *"Hey you CCP fks! We don't even need nukes and yet we can STILL retaliate and end more of ya than you can do to us!"*
      And it does it's job amazingly well because it infuriates the CCP to no end that a weakness they have is so easily known and bragged about
      And anything that infuriates the CCP is a good thing

    • @rejvaik00
      @rejvaik00 Před 10 měsíci

      @@user-sn1se8kh7z I don't think China will ever invade Taiwan I think the China and by extension the CCP are very much cowards and they only would ever fight when they are 100% sure they can win
      So when they can't they just do posturing, those grey zone tactics, and puff up their chests to make them seem bigger than they really are

  • @popolekupasupport2246
    @popolekupasupport2246 Před 9 měsíci +1

    And that ladies and gentleman is what we call a warcrime.

  • @markberglund2056
    @markberglund2056 Před 9 měsíci +2

    The dam will probably break on it's own... due to the "quality " of it's construction. 😉

  • @stopmessingwithyt
    @stopmessingwithyt Před 10 měsíci +4

    "...for a hypothetical Taiwanese strategy described as chilling, devastating and dare we say, BING CHILLING..."

    • @dyflin3246
      @dyflin3246 Před 10 měsíci

      You must really like ice cream huh?

  • @tommysowellsr1820
    @tommysowellsr1820 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Well… I suppose it’s not a secret anymore. 😅

  • @andrewfuzh
    @andrewfuzh Před 9 měsíci +1

    Any attack on three gorges dam would be retaliated with nuclear bomb. Not sure any country would want to test it out.

  • @getsmartpaul
    @getsmartpaul Před 2 měsíci

    How secure are the upstream dams ? Would they cause the 3 gorges to breach ?

  • @ibizilong8907
    @ibizilong8907 Před 10 měsíci +60

    “And while people are not into politics, people are into survival…and when it comes to survival, nothing is contemptible.”
    I Love how seamlessly Shirvan integrates adds in his videos. BRAVO !!!

    • @mickelodiansurname9578
      @mickelodiansurname9578 Před 10 měsíci +4

      In this case an ad for a company selling 'shares' (although not covered by the SEC) in things they don't actually own.

    • @baiwuli6781
      @baiwuli6781 Před 10 měsíci

      " ... and survival has nothing to do with China-Taiwan reunification"

  • @johnjosmith42
    @johnjosmith42 Před 10 měsíci +3

    The map of flooding in China should the dam be breached: is that accurate? It seems far too large an area, even for such a colossal amount of water that obviously flows through that region. I’m no expert however, and perhaps that large region is uncommonly flat or blow sea level or something technical like that?
    Thanks, great video as usual 👏

    • @user-kf3zv8ps6q
      @user-kf3zv8ps6q Před 10 měsíci

      In fact, if the Three Gorges Dam were to be destroyed, it would indeed flood half of China. During the 1998 floods, when the dam had not yet been built, almost half of China was submerged in water, including my own home. However, the Three Gorges Dam is a gravity dam. Simply put, it is a reinforced concrete mountain that would require several nuclear bombs directly hitting it to destroy. So how many nuclear bombs do you have? And how many can you hit accurately?

  • @sydgeary3373
    @sydgeary3373 Před 9 měsíci

    It's not a secret any longer thanks to this. Well done.

    • @edward3320
      @edward3320 Před 9 měsíci

      I think the Chinese may be one step ahead on this, they can probably Google public information

  • @The13thRonin
    @The13thRonin Před 8 měsíci

    Taiwan needs to unleash the power of anime on the dam.

  • @borkwoof696
    @borkwoof696 Před 10 měsíci +11

    Taiwan is kind of like China's Cuba

    • @ricksherman34
      @ricksherman34 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Taiwan is just like Cuba except that they are a democracy, well educated , not socialist nor fascist. So sure.. just like Cuba.

    • @slomo4672
      @slomo4672 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ​@@ricksherman34You missed the point 😂

    • @ricksherman34
      @ricksherman34 Před 10 měsíci

      @@slomo4672 I didn't watch the whole video. Perhaps I missed a reference.Either way, I hope Winnie the Pooh isn't dumb enough to try and take Taiwan.

    • @aa-hb3tg
      @aa-hb3tg Před 10 měsíci

      @@ricksherman34don’t get surprised if Cuba gets nuclear weapons

    • @ricksherman34
      @ricksherman34 Před 10 měsíci

      @@aa-hb3tg Well Russia tried that once and it didn't work out so well for them, but you're right China could try to do something like this.

  • @jinametarasu5117
    @jinametarasu5117 Před 9 měsíci +1

    aint it a war crime if the dam is destroyed causing civilian casualties? Are we gonna ignore that ethical question since taiwan is with the "good guys"?

  • @edsacks
    @edsacks Před 9 měsíci +1

    Flooding is so great because there isn't proper drainage. Poor build construction!!

  • @muddywolf4459
    @muddywolf4459 Před 10 měsíci +4

    As a resident of Taiwan, let's hope war can be avoided

  • @pensando_um_pouco
    @pensando_um_pouco Před 10 měsíci +12

    "World democracy could have defeated one totalitarian regime after another, the German, then the Soviet. Instead, it strengthened Soviet totalitarianism, helped bring into existence a third totalitarianism, that of China, and all this finally precipitated the present world situation."
    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

    • @lakeblackBLM
      @lakeblackBLM Před 10 měsíci +2

      World democracy could’ve stopped Germany but they’d rather give them parts of Czechia and make it impossible for black people to participate in the supposed democracy

    • @trevorrogers95
      @trevorrogers95 Před 10 měsíci

      @@lakeblackBLMIt is not impossible for black citizens to vote. You should do the impossible and study history and learn how Stalin and Mao installed their totalitarian regimes, it would really open your eyes.

    • @pensando_um_pouco
      @pensando_um_pouco Před 10 měsíci

      @@lakeblackBLM Look what we have here. A bloodthirsty communist waving the flag of the most genocidal and totalitarian revolutionary movement the world has ever seen. Aren't you guys tired of killing people? How many millions will have to be sacrificed on the Altar of Revolution for your earthly paradise to become real?

    • @kasugaryuichi9767
      @kasugaryuichi9767 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@kemist578 OK tankie

    • @pensando_um_pouco
      @pensando_um_pouco Před 10 měsíci

      @@lakeblackBLM Bloodthirsty communist got angry. So, are you guys tired of sacrificing people to the revolution? Millions of dead weren't enough?