Join me for the ride to the 1st Service on the BMW R1250GS Adventure
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2020
- Hello everyone
With 600 miles done in the two weeks between collection on 1st September 2020 and today (15th September 2020), we've done the requisite 600 miles and she's in for the 1st service. Travel with me for some general 1st thoughts, a couple of issues and some advice on where we may go for our 2020 UK tour next week. Also a little bonus footage on my ACF50 treatment after 1 week of ownership!
Thanks for viewing as always, look forward to the comments and advice
Ride safe and stay healthy
Nick
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All Year Biker (ACF50 Treatment) : allyearbiker.co.uk/
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Nick
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Great video and update on the bike Nick. Thanks!
No, thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏻
The GSA looking good Nick and I see you've fitted the camera(s) & USB socket.
Thanks for taking us along and enjoy the tour up and coming tour!
NB. If it's any reward to you....... I followed your tutorial (which is on the Innovv site ironically) when fitting mine.
Glad it helped Iain. I’ve fitted most of the bits I had on the GS and looking to add the others either before or just after tour. Relay my experiences then 👍🏻
Hello Nick, This is my first response here. I am waiting for my first GS to be delivered, a 2021 hopefully next week. you have given some good info for me to look for on my new bike.Thanks for the great channel.
A new friend from across the pond
Hi Dale. Enjoy it when it comes. Welcome along 👍🏻
Fabulous looking bike, great video, enjoy your trip👍
Thanks Jeff. Here’s hoping 👍🏻
I’m picking up a new R1250GSA TE next week, can’t wait! I appreciate your videos, certainly helped me make my decision between Triumph Tiger 1200XRT and the GSA TE. I’m based in Devon.
That’s exciting news Maciej. You’re in for a treat. Enjoy and ride safe 👍🏻
Great video again, I enjoyed that ride
Thanks David. Can’t wait to be riding again soon. Ride safe 👍🏻
Great video again my over the pond friend, I'm going to take in all you said before commenting on some of the problems your have and then let you know what I find on my 19 GS.
Glenn, as always I’ll look forward 👍🏻
Hi mate, Nick Kennedy here from I.o.W.
Just seen your new video and yes there are some issues I found on my 1250GSA .
The rubber garter on the final drive was replaced with less than 6k on her.
The starter button rubber will break down over a period of time as the sun deteriorates the rubber. And it's a fortune to replace. I put some vaseline on now and then.
The connection side...... well sure you know by now. For what we pay for the bike, you would think this was sorted.
Why no standard USB port...I don't know.
There are a few other niggles, but thay might be down to my riding style.
Other than that.... bloody great bike. Went away all around the south west over 3 days, and she (Beryl) as I call her, just keeps a smile on my face.
Take care fella. Look forward to your other vids
Cheers Nick. So far I’ve not kept one long enough for the keyless switch to rot 😂👍🏻
Great video Nick, I had my 1st service on my GS Rallye last week, I don't have SOS so cant comment but they did do the 3 hour software update. Only issue I has was a flat battery in the key fob. Not had a chance to connect phones etc, listening to your video it sounds like lots of features I don't understand so need to give it some time now and work it out. My service was more expensive than your and also paid for by the sales team (Northampton). Glad you like the GSA, have a great trip and looking forward to the video.
Thanks Ivor. Unfortunately I’m a sucker for tech but in 2020 just expect it to work. Hope you’re enjoying your GS?
Hi Nick, My GS is in for its 1st service next week!! No issues as of now. mine connects to my Samsung perfectly with no issues as to my Sena 30K no probs ! with regard to Wales, having just moved from there and having a good working knowledge, when you leave Aberystwyth head inland a little to Devils Bridge then over the Elan Valley where there are 5 Dams, beautiful, you will end up in Rhayder, then head south towards LLandovery where you can get a nice welcome at the Owls Nest a bikers cafe . then back out towards the coast from there.. The Elan Valley is a must!!, you wont miss much on the coast road south from Aber, its full of speed limits and traffic!! enjoy. Dave
Cheers Dave. You’re the 2nd to recommend the Elan Valley. I think for sure Android behaves much better than iOS on Apple 👍🏻
I'm nearly at 600 miles on my GSA Exclusive in just under 2 weeks with the 1st service due on Tuesday, I'm pleasantly surprised at how much better it is that the Triple Black I had before . I don't seem to have had any issues with the connection to my phone (Samsung S20) for the BMW app but can't help with phone calls as I don't have any comms in my helmet at the moment. I did get the lost connection warning a couple of times during run outs into Wales and could only get rid of the warning symbol by switching the ignition off. I checked the TFT software version after your video and it's even earlier than yours so I shall ask about that. A run up the M50/M5 this morning with the cruise control set at 75 didn't show any fuelling problems. There are no problems that I can think of so. all in all, I'm pretty happy.
That’s great Sam. Warn them if you want the software upgrading as it’s a 3-4 hour job and it’ll just sit in their workshop. I do think android works better than Apple so I may be blaming BMW unfairly. They sort of admit an Apple issue in a video someone posted a link to in these comments. I love my new bike too but my ‘upgrade’ is lesser than yours so you’ve got, I guess, surprising differences even in engine character?
G'Day Nick, another great video mate. These are helping to keep me sane during Melbourne's current lockdown. I'm counting the days to the contact-less delivery of my Exclusive from Doncaster Motorrad, hopefully tomorrow. I'll post up a video walk around on my new channel as soon as it arrives. Thanks for all the detailed videos, especially the helmet cam set-up, that's been a great help. Cheers, Nick S. Down Under.
G'Day Nick, I posted up my first video today and escaped lockdown for a short first ride on the new 1250 Adventure. Thanks again for the advice in your videos, I've given you a quick shout out in mine here, I hope you don't mind... czcams.com/video/hFdmXN4g9HM/video.html
Sorry I didn’t notice or reply to these. They fell into ‘suspect spam’ in the CZcams system. Probably because of the link. Hope you’re enjoying the bike. I’ll look at the video shortly. Ride safe 👍🏻
Nice video Nick. I’m in NY and just bought the 40th anniversary GSA. I traded in my 2020 r1250rs which I didn’t find particularly comfortable long rides in the states 8+hours. Best of luck to you.
Hi Steven. Thanks for the comment. Think you’ll find the GS more comfortable. I’ve done some 8 hour 400 mile days and they’re still a stretch but about the most comfortable I’ve ridden bar the RT and K1600. Ride safe 👍🏻
Really great video Nick and will help when I swap my 1200 GS for the new 1250 in March.
You’ll love it David and reckon too the differences while subtle do make it better and different from the 1200 👍🏻
Nick, North of Newcastle (on the A19 after the Tyne tunnel, which is free for motorbikes) take the A189 instead of the A1, this will take you north on the Northumberland Coastal Route (all signposted with brown signs), which will go past all the castles along the coast. Walkworth and Alnwick castle is well worth a look. You will also see the Farne Islands and Bamburgh castle, before picking up the A1 and passing Holy Island and Lindisfarne. It's well worth the detour, and has some great roads. Enjoy!
Thanks Dave. We’ve sort of labelled this the ‘castle tour’ 👍🏻
I agree with your comments regarding connectivity. Mine seldom works first, or even second, time.
This is the first time it’s lost it once it is connected though. Was a bugger to connect but stayed there once it was 👍🏻
Greet video nick thank you.
Cheers Stephen 👍🏻
Knocked 1000km on my gsa on the 1st day mine came out...just can't stop riding it...ride in good health
Cheers Vincent. Done 1100 miles (1800 km) these last 5 days and getting a feel for her
If around the dales. See if your passing the tan hill inn, in Richmond. Highest pub in the UK. Bakewell is worth a stop off for some tart, obviously. September great month to be touring Nick !
Thanks Rob. Planning today 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Thanks for the great Vlog. I'm so over the connectivity issues!!! I have the same set up as you (iPhone, TFT & SENA SRL2). I have so much cr@p, it drives me craz! Please do a detailed Vlog of how you have found the best way to connect. I'm off to BMW tomorrow to arrange the software update.
Hi Graham. I may just do that. Hope the update fixes some stuff 👍🏻
Looking good and only getting better. First service, woohoo. Went for a bit of a ride after I got mine done and WOW, it goes alright for sure.
Don’t have a headset for my bike yet, not sure if I want to.
iPhone tends to be finicky and so does BMW, so yeah !
Not great but so far, my connection to my connected app for gps purposes has been good.
Not sure what riding mode you use but on Dynamic and with a fistful of throttle she’s no slouch. Ride safe though 👍🏻
Your new trip sounds great and like you we were going to Spain at the end of October then the idea was Ireland great minds etc so would really like to see your trip around the uk as we need to get away
Hope to post some Andrew 👍🏻
Nick Hodge and to think I am only in Lymington and we have never bumped into each other perhaps one day
I live in the US and have a 2020 R1250GSA, on the connectivity, I gave up. I just connect my Cardo to my phone and call it good. I do not have an Iphone, but an android and it is a nonstarter. The cruise control thang, new issue to me and hope they get it sorted out. Other than that I have had no issues with it whatsoever, flat love the bike. I just hit 6,000 miles and I am looking forward to many many more.
Yep. I keep reminding myself.... I do love the bike and honestly. I’m being hyper critical 👍🏻😂 Ride safe
Wow! Beautiful motorcycle. Well done Nick. Ride safe and ride often. Peace.
Cheers 👍🏻
Nick. You route after the Humber Bridge takes you along along the somewhat bland (and potentially busy) A165 along the coast to Bridlington and Scarborough. Slight detour inland will take you along the A164 after the bridge. B1248 to Wetwang and A166 to Fridaythorpe where is situated the Seaways Cafe. A focal point for us northern bikers. On leaving you can then head towards Scarborough as recommended. These are recommended biking roads. That way you will get a snapshot of the stunning Yorkshire Wolds (Hockney country). They do attract some Police attention the further into the Wolds you get so it pays just to be conscious of that. Forecast is good for the weekend (as of Thur)
Thanks for those suggestions. We’ll map them in!! Hopefully we don’t fall too foul of weather or new restrictions!
Hi Nick when crossing the Humber bridge motorcycles are free so keep right and use the tag lane, and if you are following the east coast you might want to stop off at Scarborough and visit Olivers Mount motorcycle racing track where Barry Sheen and a lot of legends raced. I think for a few quid you can mianda around it on your bike.👍
Thanks Alfonso. All great info 👍🏻
Cracking bike Nick. I have a 2018 GSA, which is still on the original TFT software, with no connectivity issues whatsoever (iPhone xs and Cardo Packtalk slim). However, I don’t like the user interface and prefer the Cardo voice commands, which don’t work with the TFT. Every now and then, I will give another go, but always resort to deleting the connections and just pairing my phone and Nav V to the headset. Ref the hunting at motorway cruising speed. The bikes are running a lot leaner due to emissions regs, and this could be what you are feeling.
Yes that’s possible. I guess the manufacturers will always rise to the challenge (or lie) but I have no idea how they get them to Euro 5 next year let alone Euro 6 by 2025 🤷♂️
I have a a f900 xr and the connection of the android phone and pactalk is excellent
That’s good news Dave as the tech is the same. I think Android have it much better although watched a BMW podcast that said they had Android issues with a ‘low use’ app mode or similar but once that was turned off for the connected app it worked well 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Pleased to see you are getting on well with the GSA apart from a few connectivity issues.
I have a 1200 GSA TE 95 plate and I can say that the ‘hunting’ in cruise control is normal, the engine management keeps the speed constant and ‘holds’ it back if the speed increases but I know what you mean feels odd for a start. After going to my local dealer in Peterbourogh last Saturday I have decided to px the 1200 for a mint 3100 mile GSA 1250 TE 69 plate. I pick it up early November can’t wait. Hopefully I won’t experience TFT problems but I don’t require the media or phone settings that it offers as all that comes direct into my sena in the helmet. I have googled as many CZcams videos on TFT so I have an idea how it works. Really looking forward to the new bike, the 1200 was good but hopefully the 1250 will be fantastic, I will let you know how I get on. Good stuff Nick keep the videos coming.
Great move Johnny. You’ll love it. Most are surprised at the difference for sure. I was. The bulk of my issues are settling and the reset on the TFT was the main thing I thing. Connection to the connected app still flaky and I’d like to use that Nav if I could. Just waiting for this damn covid to be suppressed and I’ll be off to europe. Itching to ride her. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick, enjoyed the video, been using the beta version of ios14 for a couple of months now, it did not create any issues with connectivity, I'm using the same software version you currently have and the bikes are similar in age and milage but mines GS not adventure. mine loses connection for all devices sometimes which is a pain having to re pair it all over again.
Good luck with the trip stay safe regards Phil
Cheers Phil and thanks for the detail. Hoping for the iOS update today to see if it’s Apple’s fault 👍🏻
I spoke with a person in BMW about connectivity and they said that you need to have your apple set up in location services should be all set to Always rather than when in use ;) worked for me
Cheers Paul. I have that on in LS. So not the issue I’m afraid. They had that issue some time ago that when the phone was switched off to go in pocket you were no longer ‘using the app’ 😂👍🏻
Hi Nick
When your near Bakewell call to Matlock Bath its a bike meeting place Fish & Chips and cafes galore. It's just down the road from me as I live in Sheffield I normally call there on the way back from my travels. If you watch RichyVida he sometimes goes to a cafe at Grindleford Station on Sunday mornings which is also not far from you at Bakewell either. Not a bad big breakfast.
Cheers Graham, I’ll try and look it up 👍🏻
Agree about Grindleford Station, good. prices. Nick - is there a specific reason you chose Grimsby? Cleethorpes would probably have been a slightly more interesting place to stay...just curious
Haydn Walker hi Haydn. Yes. Surprisingly difficult to book. Between us we have a few ‘must haves’ without breaking about £60/£70 room. Private, off road parking. Beer and food on site, en-suite and twin beds. From Skeggy up was surprisingly lacking in availability bearing in mind it’s Saturday night. Not too worried as not romancing the wives or anything 😂👍🏻
Good video, Nick. Must admit I've abandoned the connection between the TFT and my phone. It seemed to cause issues with the connections between helmet and Nav VI etc. Also, as I regularly ride other bikes (my Scrambler 1200 and various blood bikes) I find it more convenient to have a simple connection between my phone and my helmet comms.
Makes sense in your situation Richard. I’m being picky I know as it’s a lovely bike as was the last two, but my cars have just worked for years (I nearly said decades!)
Just brought my own compressor kit and now doing my own ACF 50 treatments using a the gun that came with it. Should pay for its self after 2 treatments !
That’s one way 👍🏻 you’ll need the gun to be HVLP as the ACF50 is a bit gloopy. I never mind paying as the other stuff gets some of the tar spots off and stuff (plus deep down I’m lazy 😂)
Another tip for your tour would be when heading south from Jedburgh on the A68 turn off at West Woodburn towards Bellingham (just before the River Rede). When you enter Bellingham turn left at the T junction onto the B6320, just out of the village (at St Oswald's church) turn right. This is a great road to Kielder Water, which is the largest man made reservoir (by capacity) in the UK. At Tower Knowe Visitors Centre there are free toilets and a cafe.
I think we have that on the ‘proper routes’ the one I posted was an approximate for ‘sort of’ view but these details are great... ta 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK That's great, it looks an epic trip. Enjoy!
Dave. I’ve rattled those two suggestions in the plan. Not sure about this one as we were going across the top of the NP and down to Kilder Water on the same road. Now we’re going down the A68 and back up but then probably the Rede Valley is quite good??
@@nickhodgeUK the road from Kielder reservoir to Bellingham is a great road if you get chance. Just be aware if you travel North of Kielder you will enter Scotland, which may have Covid restrictions. I think you'll enjoy any road in that area.
dave bethell cheers Dave. Someone else mentioned that road and it’s in. Scotland I think is fine but Northumberland may become an issue TODAY 🤷♂️👍🏻
Hi Nick. I have had connectivity issues on my R1200GS (2018) since I purchased it. I have the same helmet as you with the same comms. It's not great. All this stuff connects via Bluetooth and the versions of bluetooth each is operating has a profound effect. There is nothing you can do about it. I have found it essential to make sure my helmet comms and phone bluetooth is on BEFORE you switch on the bike. Mostly, that works and everything connects. However, for no reason my helmet will just decide not to connect and/or my phone. My phone is Samsung Galaxy on Android. How you pair everything with Bluetooth is important. First, try to be in a wi fi and bluetooth dead area. Other signals from devices not yours will affect your pairing. I found a great detailed CZcams video in May 2019 that covered this subject in incredible detail. I can't recall the name but i did take detailed notes and screen shots. In essence, this is the pairing order for best results on the BMW TFT screen. First, pair the helmet headset to the TFT using Primary Phone Connection. Second, pair the headset to the Nav VI using Secondary Phone connection OR GPS connection. Third, Pair the phone to the TFT. Forth, pair the phone to the NAV VI. Finally, perform intercom pairing with passenger helmet if appropriate. I found this to work well (mostly). Like you, I find making calls very difficult. I have set my phone to automatically answer when on bluetooth connection. I see incoming calls on the TFT and then just pull-over to carry on speaking. My phone book just won't upload to my TFT! Regarding your SOS. It has always done that. I keep on getting warning messages on my TFT to say it has failed and seek a dealer. In fact, as you say it has just lost 2G signal. My biggest gripe is that BMW won't change the warning message to sayt that the signal has been lost; not the dramatic message it displays. Yes, the warning triangle remains until you stop and restart the engine. Finally, my cruise control works beautifully and always has. But that's probably because my engine fuelling on the ecu has been altered and substantially improved. Hope this helps.
That’s great thanks. Most of the connection issues I’ve had before and almost always get a connection. The real issue now is dropping it and the quality. Be aware, in case you didn’t know. Each BT connection has its own volume level so try getting someone to call you when stationary and when talking, turn up the volume in the phone. I often find this at half volume so full volume on headset only in fact is half volume. Ride safe 👍🏻
Thats very honest of you Sir.🙏🙏
Gsa 1250 being sold so high no world wide, many people do have these problems. But I find a unique thing that many owners just don't tell that they have these issues and if u ask them they will simply ignore you. Don't know if they do as brand loyality towards BMW or its just they just don't want others to know that their 25000$ machine simply having these minor yet important issues.
Don’t mistake my disappointment of the connection issue however for the fact it’s still an awesome bike and I love it 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK I am a 1250gs hp owner sir.. Yeah its the best in the market looks, power, brand value you get everything. I just once encountered this connectivity issue in last 1 yr & 15000km I have ridden. Done multiple trips into wilderness & remote places like Himalayas. Never felt less confident on this one. Everything just works fine in my one. But I have some frnds who have this issue appear multiple times. Also, one rider in our gr had a camshaft issue in just 1000 km. So, what I am saying is no bike is perfect. Every one have their share of issues.
Thank you.
@@sunilsipun9799 indeed Sunil. Mechanical beasts will never be totally free of flaws. Let’s hope we stay lucky. Ride safe 👍🏻
Great video as usual Nick. Could you share the GPX file for the UK trip if you have it? Thanks a million
When I finish the video (soon I promise) I’ll add the whole thing and planned (slightly different) files in the description 👍🏻
Hi Nick. I had the same issues. I connected the phone to my headset and left it at that. With the cardo Pactalk you can just use hey Siri for everything but when connected through the bike this function does not work. Not a fault just the design. Got fed up of connection issues so found this the best way.
I see plenty doing just that 😂👍🏻
Hi Nick will give you a wave as we travel up on the A34 to The Isle of Sky this Saturday from Southampton :) Look out for a White Tiger 1200 going past you lol
I loved my trip to Scotland last August (2,100 mile based out of Inverness). If you get a break with weather it’s stunning and nigh on unbeatable. Ride safe and remember the spanners 😉 👍🏻
Thanks nick you are around the Derbyshire peak area Try Ladybower Reservoir over the A57 Snake Pass or a ride through Castleton Winnats Pass
Hello Nick, you should have the Phone closer to the TFT (i use quadlock) in order to make a proper phone call. When it is in my pocket it doesnt work also
I’m tempted to do that Miguel although I don’t want another distraction in my handlebars. It’s certainly worse with iPhone 👍🏻
That “engine and brake hunting” could be the dynamic cruise control, its trying to maintain set speed even on a downhill/uphill, and perhaps a strong headwind would affect ground speed too.
It’s possible. While all fuel in the UK should be far higher quality than some elsewhere in the world I’ve been using RON 95 often sold as ‘premium’ or other such brand names and it seems to help. To get these to EU4/5 they must be eking every minute drop of fuel in the mix???
Thanks for the nice video Nick. As always there are many things on which I certainly agree. Currently I am driving a GSA1200LC from 2015 which I could buy second hand. There 2 main reasons I did not switch (yet) to the 1250GSA): price and too much electronics. I already find that there is already too much electronics on my bike and that even got worse on the 1250GSA. I abslutely love electronics, but then I wonder where this ends. In this video you’re complaining that many of the fancy electronics do not work. You’re paying a lot for this and if it does not woork, what is then the rational from BMW to offer this... Anyway other than that an absolutely brilliant bike!!! I love the fact that you love the big fuel tank just like me!! I love the 30L fuel tank which gives me a realistic range of 550kms... That is insaint... I want to fuel when I want it, and not when the bike needs it... Ride safe and I am looking forward to your next video!!
Hi Kim. I agree about the tech. If the bike never had it (phone, media, Nav) it would still be a great bike and we would find other solutions. Just if it’s there on a premium brand it should work flawlessly. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Some comments. I have not had any connectivity issues on my GSA. My SENA works just fine, no hunting on cruise control and the Nav6 shows speed limits perfectly - in Km. I have not tried phone calls on my iPhone, but will do so this weekend if I can. The range on the GSA is something I am so used to - to the point of rubbing it in with my buddies who don’t have my 550 km range. I installed a Wunderlich screen, which is a lot bigger than stock, and it is great. I am 6’1” and get no buffeting at all. One thing I am envious is your servicing cost. You said it was 130 Quid, whereas my 1,000 km service was $510 CAD - a big difference.
WRT your trip, too bad you couldn’t get to Ireland, great country and people. For next summer, you might want to consider the NC 500. I was born in Dundee and enjoy all things Scottish. Or the Isle of Man. I went to the TT 2 years ago and had a blast there. You can ride the course before the race starts every day. Fantastic experience. Or do the Pyrenees next year. I loved Spain. Great food and wine. Travel safe. Cheers
Cheers James. We did Scotland (and parts of the NC500) last year. It was superb and even hardened tourers named it the best trip ever. Weather OK, not great but not too wet either. We based ourselves in one ‘biker only’ hostel in Inverness and ride out of there each day and everything is 100-300 mile range per day but with no luggage it was a joy (Torguish House. Look it up, very eclectic). That’s some cost for the service even at 1.70CAD to GBP. Robbers 😂👍🏻. Ride safe
I will certainly look up Torguish House. Thanks for the suggestion Enjoy your trip this weekend. Cheers.
Nick, I just spent almost an hour on the Torguish House web site. What a find! The route maps are worth their weight in gold. Thank you so much.
James Suttie it’s an amazing place. Ben and ‘Mrs Ben’ take no prisoners but are in fact very welcoming. He takes you to the pub in a Swedish army personnel carrier with an anti-aircraft missile on!! If you don’t turn up on a motorcycle or with a motorcycle in a van you’re not welcome 😂. I have me tracks from the Nav 6 too if they become useful. Here’s a video I cut for the boys so it’s got some private jokes (the dog) and it’s not the best I’d you weren’t there but take what you will (and it’s almost an hour long!) czcams.com/video/SvRP7vipkew/video.html
Hi Nick. I watched your video and it was great. Thanks much. I am thinking of going to Torguish House next summer, if we are past COVID. Do you know if I could take a train from London to Inverness?
Hi Nick, it’s best to wait a week before installing iOS 14 because Apple only gave App makers one day’s notice before release, which is insufficient time for them to update their apps. May you stay safe and healthy🙏😉
Thanks Ernie 👍🏻
Nice video thank you. Im new to the video and will shortly be buying my first bmw. Did you go to oxford due to a better deal or have you had problems with Alton? Thanks
No, no problem with Alton but also no dealings. Always bought my bikes from NOG and in my experience loyalty should be rewarded both ways. If it’s not, find another dealer. Good luck with your purchase 👍🏻
Hi nick lovely bike does the seat get hot when riding ,and have safe trip look forward to seeing the video from it thanks tony
Tony. I’m a warm kinda guy but yes. I have to stand every hour to let the air flow for a bit 👍🏻😂
Cool covers will sort that. Makes all the difference to comfort.
Philip Chesters Cheers. I’ll take a look 👍🏻
When you come through the Yorkshire Dales you must try the Buttertubs pass which brings you into the north of Hawes
Thanks Peter I’ll take a look
We are heading off tomorrow morning for a few days from Northamptonshire, around Yorkshire, Lake District then Derbyshire. Two of us on Gs’s, maybe our paths will cross. Safe riding Nick
Peter Dutton Be safe too 👍🏻
Peter. This is above the A684 (Hawes) and comes back to it at Aysgarth?
Here’s a link to show the road, I’ve ridden it a few times and it’s been one of the staple routes from top gear in the Clarkson days
www.drivingforpleasure.co.uk/roads-and-tours/uk-road.php?s=2011-12-21-the-buttertubs-pass
Great video. I stopped using the connectivity because it failed so many times. Despite numerous software updates it’s still not right. Now I use Siri through the headset of my Cardo device. So annoying though as I wanted the tech to work. How are you getting on?
Hi Gassan. I have a video on the connectivity. Check it out 👍🏻
The connectivity, SOS, software updates etc is precisely the reason why my F850GS was bought without those things. Whilst they’re great when they work, they would really irritate me when they (inevitably) don’t.
On the tour side of things, you’re missing some great roads in Wales. The roads you’ve chosen are good, but you’re definitely missing some absolute top tier riding. I don’t know how well you know Wales but if you turn left at Aber it takes you to the Elan Valley along the mountain road (incredible road, and quiet) via Devil’s Bridge. From the Elan Valley you can weave your way down to Llandovery, then turn right to the Llyn Brianne Resovoir. Genuinely one of the best roads in Wales and usually empty. Follow that to Tregaron about 20 miles then on to Lampeter. From Lampeter then go to Cardigan via Newcastle Emlyn. Cardigan is a great place to stop. Recommend Pizza Tipi or El Salsa for dinner, and a visit to Poppit Sands beach in St Dogs.
From Cardigan you can pick up the coastline again as per your original plan. Then, when you go over the top of the Beacons you’ll go through a place called Sennybridge. Just after is an MoD road on the left that takes you through a training area. Worth a diversion to see the replica German village built on top of the hill in the distance.
That’s fantastic. Just the advice I hoped for Timothy. Thanks 👍🏻
No problem mate. If you need to ask any specifics or need more recommendations just ask, I do most of my riding in Wales so know that area very well.
Tim
Tim. Sat in a bar in Tregarth after a FANTASTIC day from Aberystwyth following mostly your route. Sun (and wind) all the way. Thank you so much 👍🏻
Sorry mate, only just seen this. Glad you had a good time, there really are some amazing routes if you don’t mind a bit of a detour. Hopefully see a video of your trip soon, or see you out on the Welsh Roads!
Apologies Nick im new to technology, really helpful, im due to get a new 21 gs march 21,
Thanks for all your info, Daz from Yorkshire
Why not organise a ride out in the future? Give us riders something to look forwsrd to!
Be safe 🙂
I certainly can’t wait to be out again. Enjoy the new bike and ride safe. Was up your way in the summer in fact (must get that video finished 🤣) 👍🏻
Hi Nick - I gave up with the connectivity just after i bought my bike, the same as yours. Have had updates each time the bike has gone in for work and i've just not been able to connect. Just gone back to phone straight to my cardo packtalk. For the connected app, it's all about settings on your phone. Need to have location Services turned to "always on" rather than "while using". There is a great youtube video on the BMW Connectivity channel, about these issues. SOS shouldn't go out of signal that often, i've only had it once in 19 months. The ignition needs to be switched off to get rid off the alert. Hope you enjoy your tour. JB
Thanks for the detail. That’s interest about notifications. I’ll check that 👍🏻
czcams.com/video/Z7RnX25Ix00/video.html that’s the vid-18:30 into it they talk about the app.
Jock Biker cheers just checked and it’s ‘always on’ although it does also say ‘exact position’ which I can’t find the setting for but I doubt that bit is connectivity, more for turn accuracy. Anyhow it’ll work out at least to be back where I was in a week or two I’m sure/hope 😂
Jock Biker good watch. Thanks for the link 👍🏻
Same software version (R150GS), iPhone iOS 14 (GM release), Cardo Freecom 1+ with custom IEMs for me. None of the issues you mention. Audio is fine for phone calls, the connected app has dropped once in 1k miles and music from phone to IEMs is good too. Hopefully, the gen pop release of iOS 14 solves some of the issues for you; it's out today...
Well here’s hoping. 61 years old and pressing refresh constantly on General>Software on the phone. Need to get a life 👍🏻😂
@@nickhodgeUK Save that refresh button... it's not out until 6pm UK time. The GM was released for developer accounts yesterday.
I gave up with the App TBH after I couldn't get my nav5 to connect to it. With regards to the SOS, I had it on my 1200 and I got fed up with it bringing the error message up, usually at an awkward moment so I've not got it on the 1250 and have settled for using the what3words app instead. It won't contact the service centre automatically if I have an off but nearly having a couple after being distracted by the SOS throwing a wobbler I'm not bothered. I noticed today that my cruise hunts slightly when I was in a 40, but that was due to going downhill/uphill so that doesn't bother me. I get the tank range even though I don't have a GSA as when put with others on lesser bikes LOL they normally are refuelling far more often than me. Enjoy your tour and look forward to seeing the results.
Hi Adrian. On the cruise control issue. I’m using premium unleaded this trip (NEVER used it before) although I note the manual advises it. So far so good 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Hi Nick, I don't want to seem like a smartarse but our standard unleaded is the equivalent of what the manual calls super unleaded. I filled up yesterday with standard unleaded which was E5 95 RON. I tried "proper" super unleaded in my 1200 GS which IIRC is 97 RON for Sainsbury's and 99 RON for Tesco's and Shell and couldn't tell the difference so I'll be interested to see if you can tell any difference in your 1250.
adrianbarrie13 yep. I understood that our fuel is fairly high quality as ‘normal’ but I’m hoping the better May cure the cruise hunting and it seems so but that of course could be that I’m run in too
Hi Nick, I have a new gs1250 just collected in June, I'm in Android using my Sena I can make phone calls no issues, on the BMW Comms system it was in usable and returned the Comms system. The connected app in theory is great but it does not work, same issue you had sat nav drops freezes etc I just do not bother using, but yes annoying given the cost of the bike.
Thanks Allen 👍🏻
Hi Nick
I don’t live too far away rotten Totton 😐
I have also just purchased a gsa from Oxford, picked mine up on the 12 August
I have very similar problems and using an iPhone
The music will constantly stutter mid songs, phone and sena has to be reconnected the start of most rides
Not coming from a bmw before thought it was just there bad software, I do hope they sort it as my KTM never had any issues with connectivity, and was way easier to control but that’s another story
Keep up the great vids
Totton gets an unfair bad press 😂😂 persevere. It’s been better before so I do sense they’re getting there. The features added over 2 years + I’ve used it have been added a plenty, just seems something’s temporarily broken. There’s a link somewhere in these comments to a recent BMW podcast on CZcams. Well worth a watch to understand what’s happening
Just racked up 20k miles on my GSA 1250 HP, no issues with the cruise control what so ever, as for connectivity your phone is not disconnecting from the TFT, I stream all my audio though the TFT onto my Sena 50 R and I too frequently loose the warning speed symbols but the audio continues to stream so there is no lose of connectivity, the TFT is using your phone for positioning GPRS and if it can’t position you the TFT Nav goes to pot, hence I prefer the NAV 6 as this is a proper GPS device, would never go out without it. Difference in your speed between the TFT speedo and the NAV 6 is the Nav 6 is using GPS to estimate speed periodic polling so not as accurate as the TFT I have been told, doesn’t both me either way. Now for the funnies I have experienced, when I set the preload on the suspension from road to dynamic is frequently goes back road mode on its own, not always just some times, suspension strut failure warning ⚠️ is a frequently error that appears, this then renders the suspension setting useless, this resolved with the old reboot feature, ignition off then back on again, yes I get the same SOS warning when out of range, this said did not get any warning whilst in the Alps this year and my phone was showing no service, phone calls as you say are impossible, through the TFT given up with that feature probably not a bad thing though, not a believer in using mobiles whilst driving, other than these few niggles it’s a fab bike and I would not be without it, clocked up 7k miles in July carrying a full load camping gear the lot and it did not miss a beat.
Thanks for taking the time to detail Andy. Funnily I’ve started using the suspension settings more with the GSA as on some ground she leans in side stand a bit too much so I lower her, also sometimes do the same for a change on the road so hope that doesn’t play up. I do sometimes sense I have to find things to moan about. For sure I love this and my old GSs. I have deliberately not got a mount for my phone as I too don’t really want the distraction but am wondering if it was at least closer and not in a jacket pocket or tank bag it may be better. Still resisting that change though 👍🏻
We have just spent a few days around Dumbfries and Galloway, this is our third trip in two years, there are some super roads to ride there and you are missing it out completely,
Ah but I did Scotland last year. 2100 miles of blissful traffic free roads. If they continue these local lockdowns I’ll be touring Hampshire a lot 😂👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK , Dumbries and Galloway Nick? The road to the Mull of galloway then Port Logan and Port Portpatrick are superb, and the smoothest quietest tarmac from Stranraer to Dumbfries.
Great video as always. :-) I have seen other reviews that also mentioned they could not feel the extra weight compared to the GS. I know what the GSA offers as far as adventure, touring, off-road etc... How is the GSA an an everyday commuter? No traffic in my small town in souther Norway :-D
Hi Robert. I’m half way through my first tour and covered 1500km so far. It’s fine. It’s slightly taller so if you are borderline on tip toes then get low suspension model. On this tour I have noticed a slight handling issue. Flipping left bend to right is harder work and slower. Ride safe
The GSA is an excellent commuter
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Hi Nick, new to your channel. I’m in the process of getting a BMW R1250 GSA Ice Grey, but I’m interested in how you get on with your Shoei Neotec helmet with your glasses. I can’t seem to be able to have my visor all the way down let alone clipped, with out my glasses steaming up. I have the pin lock fitted. But it’s my glasses that I’m having a problem with and you seem to have no problem what so ever. If you had any tips, I would be most great full. Trevor.
Hi Trevor. Welcome to my world. Nothing about wearing glasses is ideal I’m afraid. I don’t have any special advice either. I wish there was a slightly lower setting on the visor than the first open ‘click’ of that makes sense?? I always clean mine with proper solution before a ride and I prefer my visor open anyhow and the GSA screen helps that. I always have both the chin and top vents open of course and after a while the temperature equalises and I can normally ride with it shut. However I’m ‘lucky’ that my eyesight is only -1.00 in both eyes so I could probably ride in daylight without. I also have daily contacts that I never wear a paper from on the bike as the REAL challenge is when it’s wet!!! You lift the visor to see and the glasses get soaked!!! Being only slightly off too. Wearing one lens is sufficient. Like a monocle 🧐. Sorry I can’t be more help but persevere and you’ll find a solution 👍🏻
Just wondered if your headlamp proctector is it quick release ? And if so where did you get it from ?
Cheers
Nope it’s fixed with the four screws although the maker in the UK contacted me to say he was developing one. Here’s the link www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233136701304 👍🏻
You might have just missed the boat but I heard the new Gs1250s now have the gps as part of the TFT dash and no separate on top
There is GPS in nine but it needs the BMW Connected App on the phone to work and therein is the issue if it loses connection. If they are actually building GPS in then that may be a step forward 👍🏻
Its in the furture the new TFT - ;-) GPS not on any bikes yet ;-)
Hi Nick, I've just started to work my way through your video's. I have a new GSA coming in May to replace my 2018 GTL E. Great video's from which I will steal a great deal of advice ;-) Quick question. Did the software update to the TFT solve your connectivity issues?
It’s not yet been done due to lockdown. Hoping to have them done in a couple of weeks 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Lets hope it fixes it. In the end I took the BMW element out of the loop entirely on my GTL. Using the Nav 6 for Nav and phone calls via a Sena SC1 (A) and my phone (Samsung) for everything else, direct to the Sena, fitting a Sena handlebar remote for volume/channel/track/intercom selection and another remote set in the well of the pannier handle for my wife to do the same when she's aboard. If the TFT which, looks very attractive does a standard BMW 'doesn't work' then I'll revert to the same setup which does work well. But as you said in one of your vids, 'we've paid for it it should work'?
@@bigt1767 the fact you have Android is a benefit as iPhone seems worse for sure
Agree with you, if you pay £20,000 for a motorcycle everything should work! I would take it back, BMW will soon sort it out if they start getting bikes returned under consumer law. They do take the mick enough on the price of extras, which seem to be getting more and more.
It’s an ongoing issue but I do feel it’s getting better. Just this one had a ton of problems with connecting. It’s a little better now after a visit to BMW but I think November will bring a more reliable fix
I have the 70 plate GSA Rallye and I do have connectivity issues but different to you, my phone calls, Sena etc sound quality is perfect, crystal clear with my iPhone X but my issue is that I frequently have to keep pairing my phone as this looses connection.
Mark. I’ve had so much experience pairing I don’t really have that issue. Is your X on software 13.7 or 14? Are phone calls able to be carried out at say 50mph? 👍🏻
Nick Hodge I’m on 13.7, yip I can make clear calls at higher speeds
Hi there, question for you, have you made any videos of why you went from the 1200 to the 1250 to the 1250 adv?? And the comparisons? I have the 1200 GS from 17, so wondered what the differences were.
I haven’t Paul. The difference between 1200 and 1250 engine wise is pretty big I feel. Not maybe in overall performance but in smoothness and performance at both low and high rev ranges. The fuelling of the 1250 seems near on perfect. I’d encourage you to ride one, I think you’ll notice it 👍🏻
Hi Nick, nice video, I have an R1250RT from March 2020
*No problems with the connectivity in my system - Setup as follows: Samsung S9+ Navigator VI Neotec with SRL2 (after reaching for help from sena, this was their advice)
The bonus with this setting it's I can phone home just using the whizzwheel (have the default button for the gps, then use the Page and the + and -)
*My SOS was not working until the first service at the dealer. After that, it still was not working, one day after started working, never had any problem again.
*Have that issue with the cruise control, but it's not too bad.
*I can flat both feet
*My screen is awesome :P
😠 these R18 are so pretty, a piece of art really! If I was filthy rich, that would go in my living room! 😄😄 the RT is better for riding hahaha
Have fun on your condensed tour! Hope the weather holds! It'd be a dream doing that tour! Maybe one day... I do plan to cross the UK next year to visit my good old best friend who lives in Ireland, but I think I won't stay long in the UK.
P.S. let me know if you want a 3D printed key for the lids that open for topping of your oil, or the STL for printing it. (Won't charge you, costs me less than a beer printing it 😁)
Make sure though, that the phone is not paired with the helmet directly!
Yes, avoid the TFT! Mine works fine with the Nav 5.
Thanks for all this info Daniel. Yes I never pair the helmet directly. I’ve had joy on both previous set ups. (As much as you can get joy with TFT connections) but the current software/IPhone is atrocious. Watch this space on tour 😂👍🏻 (BTW, but for the popularity of the GS/A, the RT I reckon is one of BMW’s best kept secrets!)
Between the two R1250GS Adventures I've owned, I've never experienced any problems with cruise control (engine hunting as you say). I agree there have always been connectivity issues, especially when you have your phone connected to both the TFT and the Nav6. I just picked up my new GSA last Saturday, and I have my phone connected only to the Nav6. So far, so good. I think asking the phone/Bluetooth to communicate with both the TFT and Nav6 really confounds things. On a side note, did anyone really ask for the R18?
I was really interested when it was first touted but they milked it too much for me and glad I never firmed up my interest. It’s what I call a ‘bike night’ bike or it would look great in your living room! I do sense though they are after the cruiser/Harley market but with customisations it would be easy to unload £25k 😱
I had the same problems when i had a Huawei phone. When i got rid of it and went over to a Sony phone all the problems were solved. Apart from the SOS button.
Hi Mike (again). Have you had your TFT software updated recently? There was an update that didn’t report the SOS button being out of range unless it was for a prolonged period? Not just when the SIM lost service 👍🏻
Hi Nick wrong place to put this but I was wondering if you knew.
Does the aR1250GS Adventure have a spare pre wired in DT plug at the front? I'm fitting a touratech LED light bar and it states it just plugs into a DT plug. However on my old oil head when fitting a sat nav there was a spare blanked off CANBUS plug. Do you know if the 1250 has the same? Or means buying a plug with bare ends and having dealer wire it in which adds about 60quid to the price. Looked at the Denali Cansmart system you used to use but decided 800quid was a bit steep. Cheers bud
Yes I’m pretty sure there is on the right had side under the side of the beak (which still needs a lot of panels removing to get too as they’re all hiding fasteners under each other. I’ve got some footage somewhere so I’ll check
Ahh brill. Was kinda hoping it would be just there dangling lol. Pop the cap off and plug in new one etc. Handy not having to buy a new plug but depends how deep its buried etc
Connectivity - I have a 1250 GSA Exclusive, 900 miles os the same as yours. I have the TFT connected to my Iphone XR and Sena 20 Evo. Works well enough except for the fact that when I receive an incoming call the volume is so low as to make it impossible to hear the caller. I haven't found any way to increase the volume. I wonder if this is a software issue?
Michael you may have tried this but you have to turn the volume up while the channel is in use so get someone to call you and answer call. Then turn volume up. It should then stay set? Enjoy bike 👍🏻
I use an iPhone XR, Packtalk Bold and the latest software, had so many issues I don’t bother anymore, not good enough BMW. My GSA Exclusive is also getting much noisier, took it into dealer and they’ve referred it to BMW GB with recordings of the terrible rattle, apparently I’m not alone. Other than that I have loved my first 7000 miles on this bike.
Hi Ian. The rattle is there no doubt but different bikes in different situations, hot, cold, centre stand, side stand, oil level, etc all make change to it. Not heard of anything breaking though have you?
Nick Hodge hi nick!I think is a little bit early for breaking..😉
Had my 1st GSA for 3 weeks coming from a Triumph Trophy se and S1000xr. I enjoy the ride of the GSA but I too have niggles.
Hate auto off indicators with a passion. On 1st service BMW turned this feature off, something I could do through the menu on the TTSE.
2. BMW Mottorad app. Terrible. It connects to offer media and navigation etc as expected but as for the speed limits box on tft it is either 3 lines or sets at 30 and never changes. Also it will show, in the app lean angles etc but again an issue is when you look at the locations the bike icon is often at a different place to the my location arrow.
I use Cardo Bold headset and Samsung S9 phone with latest firmware.
Randomly Stuart I love the self-cancel. Especially when simply lane-changing. My first ‘proper’ bike in 1977 (an RD400) had them so I’m sort of used to them 😂👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK The rd400 with the coffin shaped tank? I don't tnink the system is perfected even after all those years.
Stuart McGifford indeed. In blue.
I have the 2019 version of your bike. Connectivity is the single worst thing on the bike and has been since day 1. When it works it works well it is pretty great(except the music app which is trash). My worst issue lately is constantly losing connection settings and having to set up again. The latest version of the software is the worst yet. The bike has failed to connect to my phone every time I start the bike since the last update.
Lonnie. I’m with you. This trip the connectivity has be woeful
Hi Nick I’ve had nothing but problems with the Bluetooth on my 1250GSA and it even got to the point that BMW Germany got involved. Mine doesn’t even remember it’s paired devices, it’s honestly been farcical and BMW UK even suggested replacing the entire bike. I won’t waffle on but it’s genuinely been totally ridiculous getting BMW to acknowledge there is even an issue.
I’ve been using iOS 14 for a while and it’s no better or worse than 13.
Hi Paul. Mine doesn’t loose the connections from the TFT but it drops the connection it has and the transmission quality is... well, you know 👍🏻
Nick Hodge yeah I’ve not got to the point of buying any helmet comms as I’m still falling at the first hurdle. Due to be getting your update next week but by the sounds of it there are still problems. I’ve been in a 3 month long battle with BMW UK over the connectivity issues 🤦🏻♂️
Hello from Bucharest România 🇧🇪
Hi Alex. I went to Bucharest in 2003 to watch Steaua v Southampton in the europa league. We lost but I had great fun!!
Hi Nick, where are you staying when you get to Berwick? I will look out for you👍
The YHA by the river. People turn their nose up but we stopped at one in York and they’ve changed a bit since 1971 in St Briavels 😂👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK yip I know the one, The old granary, off bridge street, well positioned for a pint in Barrels just along the street👍 followed by a walk round the town walls. Will look out for you to say hello.
Hi Nick. I have been told by BMW recently that they are working with Apple specifically to sort the connectivity problems and should be sorted soon. Android seems to be generally fine. I had the same problems on my 1250 GSA up until the last Connected app update on my iPhone about 10 days ago. All problems have now disappeared. Make sure that on your iPhone that the app settings have the LOCATION settings to ALWAYS ON because if you have it at - while using the app - then when your phone goes into sleep mode a couple of minutes into your journey then the app will disconnect. Your phone will ask you sometimes if you want to leave the setting to always but do not change it. Have the phone battery well charged also to aid connectivity. Good luck!
Thanks Mark. Yes I have had ‘always on’ for sometime. I’ve always had trouble actually connecting and could handle that by re-starting bike or helmet or physically connecting through BT connections on the iPhone. I had that to a minute fine art 😂 the issue now is two-fold I guess. The connected app just disconnects. They’ve made the app so much better with ride recording and telemetrics and stuff but that’s useless if it disconnects as is does. Just completed 1650 miles over 7 days and I get parts of the ride with dotted lines joining one connected part to the next with large parts disconnected. The quality of a phone call is either poor or non-existent, despite it being connected and call time counting. That’s got far worse since even the early days of the ‘connectivity’/TFT/Nav6 combination I had in mid-2018. They need to fix it soon as it’s a major part of the sale for me. I find the Nav 6 poor (too complicated for its own good) and want to use the improving Nav via the app/TFT, but that’s not possible with the poor connection to the phone. Anyhow, thanks again for the info and here’s hoping 🤞🏻
Nick Hodge I know what you mean about the one minute process! I was the same - keeping the fingers crossed and hoping! Did you do the recent app update from the App Store? Solved the problems for me, don’t even need to connect anymore. Just get on the bike and go!
Mark Murphy I got so frustrated last week today I’ve re-installed app and maps. Deleted all connections from phone, helmet, TFT and Nav and re-established. It connected in shed but wait for a ride. My next plan is to try without Nav6 on bike if it’s still issue as I also wonder if that steals the TFT Nav connection as it uses the same BT protocol. Hoping 😂
Nick Hodge I found it best not to connect the Navigatior to Bluetooth. Just let it run on its own in the cradle.
Mark Murphy yes, problem really then (1st world one) is no traffic or camera warnings. I have turned all options off (media, etc) from the Nav 6 phone connection to try and help. Again, £600 accessory should work IMO. E.g it should disable stuff to make everything works. It’s obvious the Nav on the next TFTs will probably make the extra unit redundant. That will help for those going forward I hope. Slightly worrying thing is if they can’t fix this are all the other bike systems working as they should? (ABS, traction, etc)
no issues with my R1250GS TFT
Oh. Different note. Also after 4k miles it threw up a engine management light which after diagnostic appeared to be a sticking emmisions flap valve on the manifold which meant entirely new headers being fitted under warranty. Ironically 4 weeks after same happened to my mates 1200.
That sounds expensive for what seems like it needs WD40 although it’s probably more misshaped or something??
Hi nick see your nav6 with boxes of info instead of maps how do you get this up ? Do you have too use the navi app ?
Hi Nigel. No. It’s all provided in the Nav6. You can step through 4 levels. Showing 1, 2, 4 or 16 telemetric items from the bike. The 16 are selectable from about 20 and are displayed in the sort order so the top selected item will show when you display 1, the top 4 when you display 4 and so on. To set it up the Nav must be on the bike with ignition on. Select ‘my bike’ under apps (I think as don’t have Nav handy). Here you can select items to show. While riding you can select it by holding menu button (on left handlebar) up until ‘TFT’ in top left of TFT screen changes to ‘NAV’. Now the whizzy wheel is controlling the Nav. Spinning it will zoom in and out on map first but if you hold left you should get that screen. And then rolling the wheel will scroll between the four levels (1, 2, 4, 16 items). I have speed (more accurate than TFT), range, auto-trip and consumption As my first 4 in that order. Flicking again on wheel brings up compass I think??? Holding menu button down returns to TFT control (leaving current setting on Nav). All from memory so may be slightly awry but theory is correct 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK very much appriciated nick ile have a go at it tomorrow
Nick did you ask about the engine hunting in cruise control? If so what was their answer?
Hi Leonard. I didn’t ask them. It appears to be the fact it is trying to maintain it very precisely. However. I also now use premium fuel (which in the UK is FAR over specified compared with the manual minimum) but it runs smoother and I have no issue now 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Many thanks for the extremely prompt reply.
Hi Nick... did the firmware rectify the connectivity drop out issue?
Hi John. Just dropped her and she’s there for a day or two so watch this space. The dealers know there are issues but they bat them around. I do feel that the iOS is a problem but they’ve had a year to sort that. 👍🏻
Nick Hodge my problems with BMW communication systems continue then... Two System 7s returned as not functioning with a K1600 and now drop outs.
Using iOS14.0.1 so fingers crossed
As you say, it "should" work whether you need it or not. I mean when you pay over C$30,000 for a bike I expect ALL of the components will work!
Indeed it all should Don for sure 👍🏻
Great video, the point about the TFT and phone connectivity I noticed my iPhone connected but there was never a speed limit just blank box. On the app I had info such as mileage petrol servicing but nothing else. Now that I’ve updated to iOS 14 the speed limit has appeared, all the detail of each ride available on the app lean angles g forces distance and on the map even location where the ABS activated. I wonder if this has made a difference on yours as well, haven’t tried other functions or had any phone calls to check out that part.
Nope. 14 is probably worse. I do wonder if mounting phone on handlebars helps as I have it in jacket or tank bag. Where’s yours?
Nick Hodge just have it in my pocket as well, not sure what software I have on TFT but it was updated recently because the satnav wasn’t connecting so assuming it’s the latest version. But still didn’t connect properly until iOS 14 with my phone. Hopefully you can get it sorted out👍
SouthWest 6031 cheers mate. I’m hoping 🤞🏻
I have a google pixel 4xl and the same model GSA as yours and I have terrible connectivity. The TFT keeps forgetting not only my phone but also my helmet and I have to keep re-pairing the devices. Was the dealer able to fix that for you ?
I just checked my S/W Version and its 001_019_180 which definitely seems older than yours. I just had my 600 mile service and surprised that the dealer did not even check for an update..
Also, I know exactly what you mean about the choppiness in the cruise control on freeway speeds. I have the same problem.
I think you have to live with losing the pairings. I’m so skilled at that it a few minutes task but the quality and dropping is new and still the case. They admit to a compatibility issue since iOS 13.2.1 so hopefully soon 👍🏻
Generally you have to ask the dealer because it takes so long to 3 hours and room in the workshop
no issues connecting with Bluetooth to my Android and Cardo units
I’m confident the Android is currently behaving much better than iOS 👍🏻
Hi Nick, What is the latest firmware? Now I have 021_004_040. I have the same problem that you have, maybe updating the software works fine, what do you think? Thanks for your help 💪🏻
Hi Jorge. Mine is a little on from yours and if they follow convention that’s a full version, (022 v 021), as well as increases in the others likely to be patches and bug fixes. What REALLY bugs me is there appears to be no release notes to tell us what differences are as some of these updates may only work with certain models and therefore be unnecessary. For sure they are admitting to the iPhone phone call issue which started with 13.2.3 (Dec 19) and they are ‘working with Apple on it’. Well it’s coming up a year and still nothing. There is for sure an update to the software as mine is in on Tuesday for a couple of days to try and fix. I’ll let everyone know but I doubt we’ll get much progress. I also feel there is some ‘contention’ issues with the Nav 6 ‘stealing’ connection sometimes. I’ll report back 👍🏻
Nick Hodge Thank you very much for your reply, today I had to call bmw roadside assistance because the error message on the engine appeared on the tft after 5 miles of use and a few seconds later I received another error message and this time in red that the emergency call was faulty, I turned the bike off for 5 minutes and when I turned it back on the engine error had been eliminated and only the yellow faulty emergency call error remained. They told me that I have to take the bike to the workshop tomorrow to connect it to the console and update the firmware / software and look at everything.
I also updated my iphone to ios 14.0.1 and the iphone does not detect the tft and I cannot pair them and the sena srl 2 of my Shoei Neotec 2 does not detect the tft and it does not pair 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Best not do it until the dealer reads all the fault codes but there is a reset all option under the settings menu. My dealer said that often helps clear all connections and such
Nick Hodge Tomorrow I will tell you how everything has been and how it has been solved, thanks
The number one issue with our bikes is the left cylinder loud ticking nick
That’s an intermittent problem I think. I’ve heard some very bad but my old GS wasn’t bad at all although certainly the left was louder than the right. The boxer is not a ‘smooth’ running engine and I’m not sure the rattle is a fault but I know it is being noticed and looked at
Here’s a link to a private video of my old GS1250 I did for someone a couple of months back czcams.com/video/Wofz16yZL9s/video.html
Nick Hodge czcams.com/video/DwUwANJf3ZY/video.html this one is mine
Hi Nick, I’ve just had the latest email from BMW Mottarad with the latest new features for the 1250 GSA have you had chance to see them yet yet?
Yes Kenneth. Seems they’ve changed the colourways and added some more tech (heated seat, adaptive headlight and eco modes). They’ve dropped the exclusive for the triple black it seems, updated the HP and added the 40 year yellow version. At first sight it adds about £1,500 to the price for the tech extras, or £3,000 for that AND the 40 year colourway. Would like to see them in the flesh but not overly enamoured with new colours (never been a black vehicle person). What do you think?
Nick Hodge...like the tech changes but not keen on the black versions tbh
Kenneth James yep I’m with you. Never wanted the HP (although it looks great on the new XR). The others I just don’t like (may be different in flesh?). Very happy with my colourway although exclusive now dropped. Of the tech I think the ride modes I would benefit from but can honestly say the heated seat is not for me (I had an X5 with them and made me feel sick) and never had cold backside on a bike. The adaptive headlight would be good but normally I ride early and finish early so think in 2 years on my old GS I had proper headlight on maybe twice. I think they may have tweaked the fuelling and exhaust too as I thought they were now Euro 5 but thing the figures they quote on engine are the same. Still fantastic bikes but happy I bought mine before 👍🏻
Nick Hodge you’ve got a great bike 👍
I had that problem with connection so I disconnected the phone from the helmet and it works fine now , the reason for this is beyond me .
Yes I have disconnected the helmet from direct connection to the phone. Everything is just paired with TFT and Nav is paired with phone and headset but all phone and media channels switched off. Always been a little flaky but it worked. Now it’s just poor quality and drops in use (previously once you had a connection it was solid even if it sometimes wouldn’t connect) 👍🏻
Nick Hodge it’s seems to be across the board with all Bluetooth connections with the new iOS update. Sena and Cardo users alike are experiencing issues...
Awesome Dad yep. I think it’s a few competing issues and not all BMW for sure
Nick Hodge ah yes .... this I’ve also found , one needs to have your phone as near to the front of the bike as possible, having it in my back pocket the connection would come in and out.
Triumph having the same issues with connectivity and iPhones. The quicker these bike manufacturers stop trying to do it on the cheap and pay Apple and Google for Carplay/Android Auto licenses the better (like Honda do, for Apple).I would pay to have something that works rather than pay less for something really sketchy.
Terry. I’m away on tour with a new R3 and you’re right although the Triumph app is way behind BMW although that is where BMW started 3 years ago. But I agree. Reinventing the wheel 👍🏻
the software you have is the latest
Hi Steve, not according to the dealer, there is yet another. Didn’t get versions to see whether it was version, fix or patch level and not expecting much change but there’s definitely one according to them???
Service cost me £175 :-( R1250R Same problems with TFT and iPhone.
Thanks for confirmation. Are you on an iPhone? Not sure if it’s BMW, Apple or both??
@@nickhodgeUK Yes I have a iPhone. ----- could be both.
Could I ride with you and your guys sometime
Sure. A channel meet and ride-out would be fun 👍🏻
You've only had the bike 2 weeks and you can't remember when you filled it up last????
Peter. It was true but I was concentrating on riding too. I love the range 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK That is totally understandable. And that is the point really, the extra fuel in the tank gives you that comfort on a long trip.
Peter Tompkinson I’m in Grimsby. Filled up in Southampton. 260 miles later and two fuel stops for others. I filled up in Grimsby with 70 miles left. Also trying as BMW advise premium unleaded (98 RON) or something so the range lets me be choosy. ASDA. Diesel or unleaded. That’s it. Berwick tomorrow 👍🏻
Crap seems like a lot of issues 😯🏍💨💨💨💨🇨🇦👍🏻 starting to make my Harley look good
Hi John. They are pretty trivial and the bike runs great. Just bugs me a little that comms just work in my car and have done for maybe 10 years?? 👍🏻
Hello from India Nick. I am also on the same software version 022_005_041 right from when I got the bike on 5th August. I got the 1st service done at 618 kms on the odo as the manual said anywhere between 500~1200 kms, on 31st August and there was no software update till then. I am running a Samsung Note 9, so a android phone, and no issues with that for receiving phone calls, although I use a Samsung Level U Bluetooth headset under my helmet and its a Bluetooth 4.1 unit. One thing I found that I can't adjust the volume from the scroll wheel on the bike as it says in the manual but can only adjust volume on the headset buttons. Have you faced a similar issue? I have also recently attached the Nav 6 and am reasonably happy though Google Maps are the best here in India. Do check out my comprehensive ownership blog on TeamBhp India. Cheers...
Hi Dhiraj and thanks for the comment. The volume adjustment on the wheel is because the adjustment of volume on the Bluetooth protocol is proprietary to BMW so volume only works with their helmets. They are releasing it to the main intercom manufacturers but it’ll be up to them whether or how fast they release it. If you search the comments on this video someone provided a great link to a BMW podcast on CZcams that covered all the issues and features of the connected app. It was in that. Ride safe 👍🏻
No idea. I asked the technician and he said its a welded in part and they can't change it individually. Other than that no other issues to report. Apart from my hatred from the side stand 😂😂
I have got used to lowering the suspension if I feel it's over too much and then back to 'auto' to ride. I certainly had times it leant a lot, is that what you find. Here's an image from the footage when I fitted the lights of the plug in the right side of my beak, not sure what it is but it may look familiar, also can't say I noticed one the other side???
drive.google.com/file/d/1iJv92HFDVgB8ZuoSpwwbRlu8tYtoQJc4/view?usp=sharing
That my friend looks like it might be exactly the one I need! The LED has a fixed wire a plug on end which if fits in there will be perfect! Thankyou
Re the side stand I find that unless the ground is perfectly flat or with a left camber it sits almost vertical to the point im scared to get off it in case it topples. They old airhead one you could chuck anywhere. Other than that, love it. I installed a Arrow slip on the other day and the new sound expecially using the quickshifter is amazing.
Paul Ashcroft you don’t have the reverse problem do you with the suspension already on min??? Mine came out of the dealer like that and in many cases that will stand it too upright. I know the old GSAs had a really sweeping stand
I see what you mean but defo on auto. Its manageable but just different I suppose. Couple things I've found out that you might not know. When navigating the menus ie with the down button to get to the nav or media screens there is a quick return function by long pressing up to get back to front tft screen. Then long press down takes you directly back to last viewed menu screen. Handy to toggle back and forth without multiple up down left rights (you may already know this) oh and also the electric steering lock. When you switch off bike with bars to left keep holding button and auto does the steering lock. Same in reverse. To start one long hold and it unlocks and starts tft in one press. 😊
Paul Ashcroft nope. Both functions new to me ta. Mine’s in Tuesday for a couple of days to look at connectivity. Not expecting much but researching BT tech to try and find best set up as I feel there is channel stealing going on between NAV 6, TFT and Helmet. Once I’ve got it sorted it may be a vid and that’ll be good extra content. Ta 👍🏻
Good but toooo long winded, we all know you get brownie points from CZcams for comments, top banging on about them.
I’m not sure we all know. I don’t? I think ‘thumbs up’ rates the content highly and recommends it to viewers, I think subscriber count may help too. In the overall scheme mine are fairly low with a niche channel. Not sure comments help though apart from the follow up questions viewers have which I try to answer. Anyhow, thanks for watching 👍🏻