TFT Connectivity Issues and Run-Through on the R1250GS Adventure - Solved?
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- čas přidán 11. 10. 2020
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Many people seen to have issues with connectivity between the BMW TFT screen, the BMW Navigator 6, their Helmet and Phone. Here I try and pick my way through the issues and give you a clear view of connections that I find successful. I also outline some issues I've learned from the dealer that exist today (October 2020). My equipment and versions:
TFT software: 022_005_041
iPhone 11 Pro running iOS v14.01
Sena SRL headset: V1.9.0
Nav 6: Software v5.80 (Bluetooth firmware 3.0.11 P32)
Hopefully you get something from this video and also I may get some ideas back from your experiences in the comments?
Ride safe
Nick
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Nick
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Hi Nick I've owned my 1250 rs for one year and finally got the connections sorted thanks to your straight forward ,easy to follow and understand video
Why can't BMW produce such a video
Well done 👍
Thanks Paul. Glad it worked for you 👍🏻
This video is indispensable!! Finally got connected after pulling out all three hairs on my head. BMW should be grateful for your contribution since they provide inadequate information concerning connectivity. Thank you Nick, all the hard work that went behind helping your befuddled followers. Gratefully yours, Jim…
Glad it working for you Jim. The system is still not fool proof, particularly on some iPhones, but the theory of the connections to make in the video have proven sound
I found this video just this week (in March 2024), and shared it with a friend in Tennessee. He paired his SENA 50S, iPhone, Nav VI GPS and the TFT on his 1250 GSA today, then went for a 180-mile ride in the mountains. He navigated a route on his Nav VI, and ran the BMW Motorrad Connected app, to record his ride, and display speed limits on the TFT. He said everything worked flawlessly, and also eveything paired back up with no issues, after a gas stop, and a lunch stop. THANK YOU NICK! You'ce onbiously cracked the code! I plan to do the same with my devices, right after I pick up my new 1250 GS next week.
Glad it still works. It’s a few years old now but the tech is the same 👍🏻
Absolutely brilliant! The care you took in editing this video is 90% of what makes it so clear and helpful. Thank you, thanks to you, my 1000XR is all set now.
Thanks a lot. I hate editing. It can take hours/days and most of us are not experts so it means a lot when people notice that effort. Ride safe 👍🏻
Nick, Thank you very much for putting together this video. I have referred back to it many times in order to commit to memory the pairing sequences and nuances of pairing all the devices. You are a wonderful teacher, very easy to follow on video. Once again, Thanks!
...and until all the issues are ironed out I feel committing to muscle memory is best as it lowers frustration. With the extra fuel range of the GSA I can do a full TFT, phone, lid reset in that time easily 🤣🤣👍🏻
Nice and clear explanation!! The one who have gone through all this trial and error process will immediately understand what you are explaining and you have done it perfectly 👍
Thanks Amit. Here’s hoping 🤞🏻
Excellent video, Nick!! Getting my new 1250GS soon and I fully appreciate the heads up and specific directions. Easy to follow.
Thanks Brandon and enjoy the new bike 👍🏻
Hi nick , here we are 2 years later since you made this vlog and your still helping people like me !! I've had terrible trouble connecting helmet , phone, to the 1250 GS ,but after watching this , it all works perfectly !!! Well done you 👏
Thanks Simon and glad it works. There are still flaws but the theory is strong and works for many. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick, thank you so much for you informative and helpful video. I struggle and struggled with this issue and basically just gave up. I have a Sena 20S Evo so adapting some of your instructions was a bit taxing but having now done so it all just works. And that my friend is all down to you, your patience and ability to put it out there on the interweb. Once again my thanks, Mark.
Good news Mark. I’m sure there’ll still be days it’s an issue as the system is not perfect but the frustration of fixing the issue is easier with knowledge. Ride safe 👍🏻
I watch this video every time I get a new (replacement) Nav VI. I am on my third because they all seem to succumb to the same screen problem where it is as though the invisible man is tapping the screen like a mad man. Thank you for an excellent set up guide.
No worries Nick. Glad it works. I thought the ‘refresh’ models ‘22 on fixed the ghosting. Maybe the next should be the BMW navigator which is Tomtom original instead of Garmin??
Hi Nick, recently got a new helmet (Schuberth 5 with Sena SC2) and a new iPhone 13. Set both up to my 1250GS in about 30 minutes following your instructions. This is the third GS and third time of using your video so just like to say a big thanks for spending your time producing it and posting on CZcams. Excellent ,clear step by step process, probably the best out there.
Glad it still holds good Andrew. The connections are getting better but the base tech is the same. Still works with the new 1300 thankfully. Must try and do one with my K16 and the 10.25in screen as that is different again 👍🏻
This continues to be the reference instructions for whenever I change phones or need to reset the links. Thanks Nick!
No worries. Randomly one of my best videos. At some point it will be out of date but even the new models in 2023 are using the same system 👍🏻
What a great video, thank you for a tremendous amount of effort to help your brothers that ride BMW Motorrad, I have had my R1250GSA over a year and I suffered extreme brain cramping trying to get things to work right between devices. Great Job, Thank You
Pleasure John. Some Apple devices still have issue which I’m told will be fixed with a TFT software update in Feb/Mar 22
Ive just become a member of the 1250 GSA owners club and im so glad i have found you Nick, i shall definitely be watching all your vids. The ones ive seen so far have been excellent. Great work
Thanks and enjoy the 1250. It’s a great choice 👍🏻
Just purchased a r1250GS Rallye Adv, this vid has been a great help to me, clear & concise. Massive thanks.
Glad you liked it and enjoy the new bike 👍🏻
Fantastic easy to follow video, Nick. I was having problems connecting my system; however, after watching your video, no problem, everything set up first time around. Thanks 👍
Good news Dave 👍🏻
Thanks Nick after buying the Cardo Freecom 4 plus and attempting many times to achieve a successful connect to R1250GSA, I gave up. Finally after 2 -1/2 years following your directions, success. A big thank you for your concise instructions.
No trouble Nick. It still has flaws but the theory seems to work mostly 👍🏻
This video has been so useful. Thank you for not assuming everyone is technically minded, as I am not but found this really clear to understand and follow. I have had my new GSA since 2019 and all the connectivity has baffled me to the point I gave up. Thank so much for putting this together..
No worries Stu. Thanks for the comment and hope you have some joy 👍🏻
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I stumbled across this while trying to find a way to for my TFT, Cardo and Phone to work in relative harmony. They've now gone from hating each other to amicable neighbours. Not beer buddies, but nearly.
Virtual beer accepted 👍🏻 Thank you
Thank you Nick! I have the new Nav 7 and there's no manual, but your detailed breakdown of how to connect phone and helmet has been really helpful.
The connections should stand the test of time with the Bluetooth only nav systems. It is different on the 10.25in TFT (2021 on RTs, K16, R18) where there is ‘map view’ actually in the TFT which uses WiFi (not internet a motorcycle specific network) AND Bluetooth. Enjoy the rides👍🏻
Hi Nick Massive thanks. Was really struggling to get my Nav 6, TFT, and Sena headset to work together. Managed to sort it out following the guidance in your excellent video.
Good news rob. It may not be perfect particularly on iPhones but more often than not it’ll connect now and at least you can reconnect quicker next time. Ride safe👍🏻
Thanks Nick, your a bloody legend have been trying to pair my Shoei Neo Tex 2 SRL to my BMW F750GS, very frustrating with the BMW and SRL videos. Your video is the only video explaining and showing how basic this is. Safe Riding from Australia
A legend in my own bathroom 🤣🤣 glad it worked out. Ride safe too 👍🏻
Hi Nick, here we are almost three years on after you making this brilliant video, after a year owning a 2020 GS Adventure I purchased an Interphone U-Com4 BT system and the connection with my tft and navigator V been giving me nothing but desperate anger attacks… Thanks to you’re very clear and calm instructions on this video I’ve managed to get the thing working be it without connection to my navigator V and helmet because I couldn’t make phone calls… so nav V is only connected to iPhone for Smart Link traffic info but that’s just fine, I use the Connected BMW app for navigating. So connected helmet to tft first and then iPhone second and it all works… Thank you so much again and best regards from The Low Countries aka Holland.✌🏻👍🏻
Good news Peter. I sped through Holland in June from the Hoek to Kiel and onward to Nordkapp in Norway. 30 day loop back through Finland to home 👍🏻
Thanks for this, on my 5th BMW now but first with the TFT, and this proved invaluable in connecting my Sena and my iphone , thanks for taking the time to put this together, and sharing your knowledge with us👍
No problem. Glad it helped and hope you stay connected. The latest software on the TFT does seem better now as I road a new GS a couple of weeks back and it stayed connected 👍🏻
Great video! They are delivering my 2020 R1250RS next week, your video is exactly what I needed! Thanks!
You’ve an exciting week incoming!! Ride safe 👍🏻
Wow, an impressive tutorial. Sadly I don't have a GS but I do have the SRL headset and this has helped with understanding the various BT protocols, thanks.
Thanks. Pleasant consequential 👍🏻
Superb video with very clear instructions. Just in time for my wild Atlantic way trip. Thanks JR
Thanks Pat. Enjoy your trip and ride safe 👍🏻
I’ve watched this several times now! Just changed my phone and had to watch it again. I would never of worked out he issues I was having without it. I agree with you that with the amount of money we spend it should be straight forward!!
Hi Kenny. I get some “it’s a motorcycle, ride it” comments but what could be so good is flaky. There is a new version of the app (last week) and the TFT software on mine is due an update so I’m ever hopeful 🤣👍🏻
Been trying to connect my tft screen to helmet all morning,found this usefull blog, so will now go back to the garage and try agsin,thanks nick for all the info
No worries David. Good luck 🤞🏻
Nick, thanks for your feedback. I definitely have more confidence in the system, but I still see great potential for improvement on the part of BMW. Have a great day!
I’m with you Markus. It’s still flaky particularly with iPhones
Hi Nick. I struggled with this exact issue and the BMW dealer couldn’t fix it - they said it’s one or the other. I found your video today , did the steps and problem solved. Clear, easy to follow and I didn’t even know my Sena 10s has 2 phone Bluetooth channels. One issue I had, was the TFT froze after I changed the Navi Settings (when connected to the bike) and I had to reset the whole TFT back to factory setting then start again. After that it worked fine. Great job, and many thanks.
Cheers Bob. If you have an iPhone there are still some issues but at least if it loses connection you know how to re-pair 👍🏻
Well done nick sounds very complicated to me but you have done a great video for others 👍❤️ thanks looking forward to seeing your trip around the uk
Yep hopefully soon Anthony. I’ve also got a short ride in an RT I’m looking to edit and the select ship have also offered me rides on the R18 and the new GS. It’s only a hobby 😂😂👍🏻
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to make this. I think I just got my head around it even if less important for all us non tft bike users🙂.
This just convinces me how much we don’t NEED tft screens. There was a lot to be said for simplicity and clarity. We do not need all the info available, we do not need the connectivity nor the apps nor music blaring in our ears as riding is demanding enough of our concentration without it. I ride an RS and have both the nav V and VI. I used to have the GSA1200, but for clarity I always thought the last of the 1200 RT displays as the best that BMW made. The problems are all bluetooth and app related. The simple answer is either to make a better tft with full nav options, other bike companies manage this, or to go to a simpler display. As for the bmw app,I gave up on that. I just use the nav units to navigate and don’t bother pairing my phone. I don’t need to make calls whilst riding nor take them. Better to pull over for that. I pair my helmet direct to the nav unit then separately pair the helmet to other intercoms if riding with others. Job done. We have made our lives way too complicated and are slaves to flawed tech.
Hi Paul. It’s frustrating for sure. The TFT itself and the integration with the wheel is probably the best and clearest in the business and for us imperial countries offers simple and quick switches to metric when abroad (often). It does also display useful stuff such as tyre pressures, range, trips and stuff but for sure the Nav integration with the connected app could be better on the GS(A). It is MUCH better and more reliable on the K1600 I have now and has map view so much improved. I need a dedicated Nav as I use plotted routes to ensure I take the route I want, not where google maps or Waze want to take me and at last on the K16 with MRA to plot and the connected app it actually works 👍🏻 Thanks for the detailed comment though
Cheers for that nick, I now have my Sat nav talking to me for the first time since buying the 2020 Bmw R1250rs
Thank you good info
No worries Chris. Glad it worked for you. Ride safe 👍🏻
Nick, great video. Clear explanation as always, and hugely helpful.
Thanks Simon 👍🏻
Great video, thanks! I have a 2021 F850GSA with same phone and a Krios helmet with Sena and your directions were spot on!
Glad it worked for you Brent. Ride safe 👍🏻
Very informative video Nick. That road clip looks like heading north round Llyn Brianne to me, love mid Wales, always relatively quiet. Looking forward to seeing more of your tour in the future.
Spot on Roger. We had a fantastic day that day in late September which as you know is in no way guaranteed. Hope to expand in the whole UK tour soon 👍🏻
Hi Nick, thanks for the very well explained video I have a 1250GSA from 2021 and the sena SF4 and it worked, I was struggling with GPS and TFT.
Now it makes sense to use both.
Perfect Joaquim. Glad it worked for you 👍🏻
Tks a lot for your time ! Your video is very much appreciated. JF Montreal Canada ( bough my 1st bike GSA 2021 last summer) am 54, did some motorocycle as a kid and tennager...
You’re welcome Jean-Francois enjoy the bike and ride safe 👍🏻
I have just bought 1250GS and waiting for delivery. I have Shoei Neotec 2 helmet with Sena SRL 2 and IPhone 12. Almost everything are the same 🤗 I am very happy and love this video. Solving connection problems between motorcycle, helmet, iPhone is really a big f...ng challenge. Luckily we have Nick 🙏❤️
Alim. I’m currently testing an android device and get ZERO disconnects from the TFT to Connected app for navigation so this is absolutely an Apple iPhone issue
Had many problems with Sena, Nav VI and TFT. This was very helpful. If you connect the Sena to the iPhone you blow the lot away.
Correct David. That is a crucial part for sure 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Thank you this video. Finally someone can explain exactly how I can my devices pairing with my motorbike. Thanks. 👍
Lászió. Glad it helped you. There are still some issues with the system(s) but the theory is sound. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick, Thank you very much. You helped me where BMW couldn’t. Greetings from Belgium
Hi Seydi. Glad it helps. The system is still not perfect but it’s getting better slowly. Ride safe 👍🏻
Nick, thanks so much for this. I couldn't work out what I was doing wrong but thanks to your video its all sorted and it makes sense. I owe you a beer 👍👍
David. Glad it worked out. The connection is still sometimes unreliable particularly on Apple phones with iOS past v13 but at least if you commit it to muscle memory you can reconnect in around a minute if you need. I’m hoping soon I may be able to release a video with this fixed but it’s over a year there’s been the dropping issue which BMW blame on an Apple update so anyhow. Watch this space 👍🏻
Thank you Nick from Chile to share you knowledge. By far the best video with clear instructions that works perfect with the BMW Fit For All Intercom, Nav VI GPS, iPhone 12 Max and BMW R1250 GS Adv TFT. Volume works also for music and phone at the TFT with the BMB left hand control. BMW has a good idea, but should improve his connectivity to work consistent. GREAT value!!!
Thanks for watching Martin. Glad it helped. Ride safe 👍🏻
I solved all my connectivity issues Nick by sacking off the TFT altogether. I now pair Sena 20sEvo with my Nav 6, phone to Nav 6 and it works seamlessly. No issues after stops with reconnecting. Easy and reliable. Having also purchased software to convert Audible files to MP3s I can now listen to my audio books with complete reliability.
Really enjoy your "how to" videos, so many folk rush or leave out the important bits!! Keep it up.
Thanks for the update. I’m minded to do similar. Had a TFT update (to 022_008_020) on Monday. Still disconnecting. I get too enraged I paid top dollar for this and it doesn’t work. I should take the ‘Frozen’ example and Let it Go 🤣👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK I've been there. It isn't right tbh. I have a 12 year old Grand Scenic and the Bluetooth on that works perfectly 99.9% of the time. And yet a brand new 21k motorcycle is a nightmare. Use the Nav6. I have a new Triple Black (130 miles). It replaced my 2019 GSA. I haven't even turned the bluetooth on - and I don't intend to. New bike - no issues as it's all done through my existing kit. I spent hours trying to get the TFT to work. It would all pair perfectly, then first time i turned the bike off it would stutter. The first time it did this was off the ferry in Ouistreham. I spent an hour at the side of the road and got absolutely nowhere.
I won't be using the TFT for connectivity unless they completely redesign the software - and it actually works! Good luck with it .
This is an extremely useful vlog, thanks for making this.
No worries Kevin. Hope you get stuff out of it
Once again, great video! Workers perfectly. One more helpful hint, if not already covered, is I allow the tft, phone and NAV to pair, then I turn on helmet. Things all seem to connect properly in that order.
Hi Brent. I’m not sure the order matters although you may be right. I think it’s more that the BT connection is about the last system booted. Often 30 seconds after ignition and many don’t wait presuming it won’t but thanks for the comment and glad it works 👍🏻
Great video Nick I don’t have a tft I’m on a 19 XR but planning to go back to a GSA or the new XR next year so this is of great interest well put together clear and concise as always keep them coming 👍👍
That new M XR looks (as my kids would say) sick. Bit too revvy for me and a chain????? But lovely non the less. Seen the new additions to the RT??
Excellent Video Nick, well presented and easy to follow 👍
Thanks Kenneth. I was worried it was a bit ‘waffly’ 👍🏻
Thanks for the detailed video!
I just use my iPhone 7 for the connectivity to TFT through app bmw connect and to listen Spotify in my cardo Packtalk..my setup is iPhone connect TFT and cardo to my phone....for some reason navigation app was losing connection to TFT, than TFT just went frozen...the connection would go back if i restart bike and phone...very annoying...it happened a few times...yesterday i did reset TFT to factory default (default was never modified before)...than i did reset all iPhone bluetooth connections...i went for a 640 km ride and everything worked great! Woohoo...back in business none issues!
Great Fernando. You also have a benefit with the older iPhone. It’s weird that sometime a reset just seems to help👍🏻. Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK happy again...just to mention...i also use my iPhone in the support as a “gps screen” loving it again...tks and great rides to you!
THANKS NICK YOU HAVE JUST SORTED 90% OF MY PROBLEMS WITH CONNECTING ALL MY DEVICES LUCKY WE HAD SAME NEOTEC2, GS1250 (2020), AND AN IPHONE, BIG HELP THANKS AGAIN
Hi Paul. It’s easier to follow with the same gear for sure but the theory is the same whatever. Glad some issues have cleared up. We need BMW to clear up the others I fear? 👍🏻
Another great video Nick. I wish I'd found your channel 6 months ago when the Alaskan riding season was into full swing. I have a 2020 GSA, the NAV VI, and the Sena 20S. Despite several other tutorials, I've had mixed luck getting everything to work and, exasperated, fell back to becoming comfortable with using my Apple AirPod Pro's, a RAM mount and my phone. I shouldn't complain too much -- the audio quality of the 20S speakers is just slightly better than the PA system at my son's elementary school :). Furthermore, the AirPods 'configuration,' is best used without any active connections to either the TFT or NAV unit. Case in point, you start the music, get your gloves on, get underway only to have the bike hijack the connection and have to stop long enough to reestablish connection with the AirPods -- and reglove. This touches on your point and other's comments about the delay in establishing bluetooth harmony. The last video I remember watching on this topic, despite being 30-plus minutes, missed several settings that yours covered. Yours also seems to debunk the possible myth that there's an important sequence of powering on the components. Thanks again -- I have the bike in its hibernation state until April, but look forward to giving this a new go then.
Hi Jim. Not sure this’ll every be perfect until they dump the Nav6. The 2021 RT does this with it all built into the TFT (colour images, live traffic, etc) but it will still need the Connected app and that’s good as then maps and such can be updated regularly without necessitating TFT updates. Mine too will likely be away until the new year but because it rains so much rather than it being 6ft deep in snow and 10 below. Stay warm 👍🏻
Great video NICK. I have exactly the same equipment as you so this is so helpful.
Keep them coming.. From Northern Ireland
Thanks for watching. I’m actually surprised how many GS riders seem to have the same. Certainly I didn’t even research the helmet before purchase. It just felt right on my head and I liked the feature of being able to lift the chin bar if only to be more ‘personable’ when conversing with someone. Spent many happy trips to NI from 1985-2002. Loved the place and the kindness of its people. Whilst it was a far more troubled place back then it was so welcoming 👍🏻
Thank you.. I also have a ‘20 R1250GSA and have been struggling to get it to provide all connected features. This was extremely helpful.
Great Larry. Glad it helped. May you have better connections xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Which Garmin app do you use for traffic & weather - Smartlink or Drive?
@@larrybenitz2535 not sure if it’s country specific Larry but smartlink
Watched and took notes. I'm sure it will help, even though I have a Cardo Freecom 4... but it all made sense - Thanks for taking the time to break down a very complicated 4-way integration, plus apps, very much appreciated.
No problem Dean. It seems to work for most. The theory applies to all kit. Good luck 👍🏻
Hi Nick, a well made video, thank you!
I find “Hey Siri” imperative whilst on the bike. I’ve found additional problems when you throw “Hey Siri” into the mix. I ended up connecting just the headset to the iPhone in the end.
Hi David. More people have given up than succeeded I feel but when it works it’s a joy. We just need more reliability of connection. Cars just work but you don’t wear a helmet (generally) on the car so separate navigation and the like are not an issue
With Cardo Bold, we say hey Cardo, and it does our commands. Turn on/off radio, mutes/unmutes audio, switches stations, and everything you would have to reach for. Answers phone and hangs up, hands free just by a command. Jbl speakers, great sound reproduction, Long use time, standby time and more as we learn them. I sound like a infomercial! Lmao.. sorry
Super helpful. First time connecting satnav or helmet and made the process very easy. Cheers Nick :)
Glad it worked Andrew. Still not 100% but hopefully software updates will help 👍🏻
Just received a recommendation to this and it worked very successfully. And I’m not very technical. Big thanks for making it.
No trouble Richard. The system isn’t perfect especially with iPhone but the theory is sound and for some it works great 👍🏻
I do have a problem. Hope you can help. I’ve got the Sena slr2 and previous to following your advice I was able to get my hey Siri by holding the button on the side of the helmet. I know can’t. Any advice if possible. Cheers
Hi Richard. It’s because you should have no connection from the headset to the phone. If you have that you’ll likely lose the connection to the TFT. Try it but I suspect that’s what will happen. It does with the SRL
Quick update. Glad I’ve found your channel. Lots of interesting subjects. I’ve just ended up with iPhone to slr2. Loved using the joy stick but being able to ask for song choice on Spotify and asking to directions on Waze outdid the BMW technology of the wheel etc. but big thanks for your help.
Yep. Best the way it works!! Ride safe
Brilliant video. I have a 2020 R1250R Sport, with software update last week. Also NeoTec 2 with Sena. Thanks for you great advice.
Glad you liked it Alexander and thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Super video, solved my problem. Did not know how to select media/phone/Nav channels. big thanks
Glad it worked for you. Still far from a perfect system but at least you’re connected 👍🏻
Another excellent video. Struggled for the last couple of weeks since getting my 1250GS to connect all the comms. Driving me mad ! Went through your steps and bingo. I have the same set up with Shoei Neotec 2 and SRL and now all talking perfectly with phone, TFT and NAV6. Is was the only thing spoiling the joy of this bike. Owe you beer
Beer always welcome Mark🍻. Going to try and get a ride tomorrow here before the lockdown 2.0 commences. Ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK you and me both 👍
Again Nick this is another very good and helpful review👍🏼
Thanks Mike 👍🏻
Hi Nick, great video, thanks! Just a quick fix I found, if you start the bike but NOT start the engine, and you wait until everything is paired, everything will more times.
Also, thanks for the automation idea :)
Hi Joao. I agree I just worry with all my lights and stuff when it’s cold with 30-40 seconds to pairing the battery may struggle to start if I’ve not ridden her a while. Probably unnecessary on my part. I love the fact you spotted the automation. That’s viewing in detail to see that pop up on my phone 😂😂👍🏻 ride safe
Thanks Nick, very well made and clear, has really helped me.
No worries Pablo. Theory is correct although if you have an iPhone there are still technical issues. A video coming soon. 👍🏻
Great video Nick! I never knew there were two phone settings on the SLR. I connected helmet and navigation (TomTom in my case) exactly the way you described, hope it will be working a lot better 😊 Thanks!
There may still be some frustrations particularly with newer iPhones but it works for most 👍🏻
Another well explained video.
Well done Nick.
Thanks Ian 👍🏻
Nice one Nick for doing this video, i was connecting a Packtalk but you steered me in the right direction yet again. Next is studying the TFT protector vid, thats one of tomorrows jobs. Thanks again.
‘Twas as always my pleasure. Hopefully an update soon on the still unreliable connected app and iPhone (specifically) connection for TFT navigation 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Mine appears to have connected ok, ill have a go using the navigation next time im out, if i find my way home it worked :-)
@@hartley383 I’ll almost guarantee that particular connection drops (not phone or media) if you have a version of iOS passed 13.1
@@nickhodgeUK Yep, youre right. was just having a play in the garage and it kept dropping in and out. However, the other day i managed to get it to start showing directions. Wasnt going anywhere but it didnt drop out like it has tonight. ill try to figure out what was different.
Well done on making all this simple Nick, not an easy feat lol.
Thanks although there’s always something I think “ah, wish I’d said that, or made that clearer”. Another day 👍🏻
Nick, I put a 21 Triple Black GS Adventure in my stable, and this video saved my sanity after spending the first evening pulling my hair out. My system works perfectly and there are no issues. Keep up the good work my friend. BTW, I put those spacers in as you suggested for my 58L Givi top case to work with my Bumot panniers.
Good job William. If I had a ‘21 model that’s the one I’d have for sure. Ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks again.
Nick, thank you. That saved me throwing the crash helmet, the iPhone, the NavVI and the motorbike out of the pram …..along with all my toys.
Glad it helped Andy 👍🏻
Thank You Nick! I have been trying different combinations for 2 days. But I always connected my iPhone to my Cardo Pack Talk Bold first. Your way works great so far And if I ride my other bike, I can re-pair the Mobile phone 1 connection on the Cardo unit for my iPhone, then change it back to the TFT dash when I'm on the GS. Awesome easy to follow video !
Glad it worked out for you. Ride safe 👍🏻
Nick. Really helpful, thank you for posting 👍👍
No worries, hope it helps some
I know this was a while ago Nick but great video. FINALLY, I have it paired the way you state. Strangely, "Hey Cardo" doesnt work with music in this config but Siri works perfectly. Thanks a million
Glad it worked for you. There are still some issues with some iPhones but we are promised a TFT update to hopefully fix those this month
Nick what can I say this has been really helpful Ive owned my 1250 for 2 years and got the Neotec 2 connected to the bike and not the satnav, to be honest I was okay with listening to music and not a voice telling me which way to go. But watching one of your previous videos I realised I wasn't getting what I paid for or the full experience. Thanks to you there has been a vast improvement, still not 100% with the Garmin as every now and again it seems to decide to set its own routes or change screens.
Hi Phil. Glad it’s helped. If your Garmin is under 2 years old it’s still in warranty and if under 3 years still in BMW warranty (if it is a Nav6) the ghosting where it looks like someone else is pressing buttons is a known fault and you may get it replaced with perseverance 👍🏻
Nick just a quick update I took your advice and contacted my local BMW dealers in Essex and they took the Nav 6 in and had a look at it then called me to confirm that it was U/S and to pick up a 2021 version. I have also had all of the software updates on my 1250 done so have reinstalled the crash helmet/phone/Nav again. So thanks again for the advice.
@@philgirling9192 good news Phil. There is supposed to be a big TFT software update in Feb/Mar 22 aimed at stabilising the connections to the TFT in particular the ‘connected’ app. Here’s hoping 🤞🏻 👍🏻
Hi Nick.
Nicely done video. I followed your steps and got things working. I use N-com B 902 R on a Nolan 100-5 helmet. It’s based on same Sena technology as the SRL/SRL2 technology. I have a neotec 2 helmet as well with the SRL2. I’m not a big fan of Sena and these modules are based on their S20 which is an older model but it gets the work done.
Thanks for your effort.
No worries Thomas. Glad it all worked out 👍🏻
Thank you again, this video is a timesaver every single time. Btw this also works for the 2023 tft on the 1250rt with the srl2 .
Glad it works for you. The RT (and my new 1600) also use WiFi for the map view so the additional steps are to be sure you have nothing in the bike that is also requiring WiFi (like my Innovv camera). Also sometimes the map view won’t start at home as it won’t let go of the Home WiFi (bear in mind this is a wireless network, not hinging to do with internet). Maybe I’ll do a specific video on the 10.25 screen soon
@@nickhodgeUK Interesting, I had an issue with my phone connecting to the TFT on my bike but when I visited the showroom he asked me to get rid of a load of Bluetooth devices which I did, and this automatically sorted it, also my Apple watch needed to be in airplane mode as it was also causing the WiFi to disconnect and therefore the maps.
That’s interesting that some of these things work. The ‘old’ turn-by-turn maps (which if WiFi drops is the drop back on the 10.25) and the default on the 6.5in TFT also runs the media and phone. A phone can have multiple Bluetooth (BT) connections although the more you have the more issue is likely. Only the maps use WiFi and certainly I’ve had issues connecting to those if I am for example outside a hotel and are still connected to their WiFi as a phone can only have a single WiFi connection so entering settings and manually connecting to the TFT WiFi (2Gxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) will sort the issue. The update I had on the TFT on the 16 in September 2022 improved it a lot, but interestingly the latest app update (June 23) seems to have set it back slightly although on a recent 6,500 mile trip it worked the bulk of the time perfectly. I too have had the developers question my Apple Watch but personally I find that a little implausible but if it works I’m willing to accept it. It’s getting there but it really wants a ‘reconnect’ WiFi setting in the TFT that works (there is one I think called connect map view, but it NEVER) works. Nearly there though and with route planning on MRA I’m beginning to like the setup 👍🏻
Great tutorial about this quite complicated stuff, congrats!!
Thanks Briktius 👍🏻
Hi Nick, I’m a right numpty when it comes to this sort of thing but followed your instructions they were perfect thanks🍺
Well done Mick. The system isn’t perfect but the theory is correct. Hope the system works for you because when it does it’s very good 👍🏻
Good morning Nick
Very good and very helpful Nick on my Gs1250 I just have my old iPhone 6s and helmet connected to the TFT I’m going to try to connect my sat nav v to it now after following your video. Thanks Nick
Good luck Chris 👍🏻 sorry it took a long time to reply you fell in the CZcams naughty bucket for some reason 🤷♂️
Hi I would just like to say a very big thankyou for the way you presented the information on your chanel I've tried several times to per everything and after seeing your presentation I now have full systems go fantastic I definitely owe you a pint or two if your ever over my way in Hornsea.
Glad it worked Des. Ride safe 👍🏻
THANK YOU! This is so helpful and a lot easier to digest than some of the other videos. The only minor thing that would improve your cheat sheet would be labeling the green and blue lines with mobile 1 and mobile 2 respectively.
Thanks Andy. I noticed that actually after production but glad and hope it helps anyhow 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Your automation inspired a whole new area of "playing"
I added an automation to open the BMW Connected App (And then turned off always in location services for the app - I just don't like apps always using location)
I had it open my favorite playlist in music and set the volume
I also added another automation shortcut to open the Garmin Smart Link when the Nav 6 connects via Bluetooth.
One last tweak was on the Bluetooth setting on my iPhone (IOS 14.*). on the (i) info section for that connection, the sync contacts is checked, but I unchecked all contacts and just check favorites. This means I just get a handful of contacts on the TFT.
The Automation idea was really cool, so maybe a good idea for a future vlog. Thanks for helping me along.
@@andyjames1699 hi Andy thanks for the comment. Be careful turning off location services in the app. I heard directly from developers that the phone going to sleep (as it would in your pocket) can stop it working which is a problem to use any Nav from it although that may not worry you. If not you have no need to open it as it’s not needed for anything else 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK I've been using it to log ride history only.
@@andyjames1699 great bit of info as I have had a real headache because Siri won't work with tft & I have over 500 contacts
Clear Nick 😁.... concise as always!!!
Thanks John. Clear I’m glad, concise I’m not sure 🤔 it’s a weirdly complicated subject with much at play and several things I wanted to say I haven’t. Maybe another day 👍🏻
G'Day Nick, another great tutorial, well done mate!
Lots missed out Nick but maybe another day. Here’s hoping BMW come to the party too!
@@nickhodgeUK I know it's down to personal preference but I work in software and apps and I ditched iOS a long time ago, I find Android much more flexible. Good luck, Nick S.
Thank you, I will have another go with mine as I'd given up connecting everything. 👍
Good luck Steve. We shouldn’t give up. I’ll try and help but keep pushing and complaining. It should work. BT is fairly old tech 👍🏻
Thank you Nick, I will try again tomorrow 👍👍
Excellent, thanks to you and your video, finally seem to have it sorted! F900XR, Navi VI, Huawei Mate P20 Pro, TFT now all playing together...
Good news Phil and with a Huawei you’ll not have the issues us iPhone users have. New video on that incoming… 👍🏻
Thanks. Welldone. Explained a difficult subject, very well.
Glad you could follow it Romney 👍🏻
Thanks 4 taking the time to share the knowledge! very helpfull
No worries Miguel 👍🏻
Very informative, and good choice of music 😊.
Thanks Tom 👍🏻
Well done, difficult subject with many interacting variables.
Thanks John. It’s still not the most reliable tech and they’ll be better when they incorporate ‘full’ Nav in the TFT (as the 2021 RT) and ditch the external Nav which complicates it but this works (mostly) for me 👍🏻
Good work Nick. Will check mine over 2moro. I’ve never had it all working together. Must write your sequence down for posterity.
Here’s hoping and don’t give up. Post back for more advice 👍🏻
Perfect, thank you. Super informative, easy to follow instruction.
No worries thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Thank you Nick, great explanation and usefull for me.
Glad it helped Jacek. It’s still better with android than iPhone but at least you know what to do when it’s not connected 👍🏻
Perfectly explained! A good job.
Thanks Tomasz 👍🏻
Algorithm points for this complete issue solving presentation.😎
🤣🤣 Thanks Bart 👍🏻
Sorry to hear about your troubles with your GS connectivity.
I love the look of the GS but just too many problems with it especially with it costing $31,000 in Canada.
Glad I bought a new 2019 Super Tenere ES for $16,500.
I use a TomTom 400 GPS and an IPhone 7Plus for music and run everything thru my SENA 20S and it works perfectly all the time.
The Tenere doesn’t have all the electronics like the other bikes , but what it does have, works perfectly.
Keep up the great videos.
Good luck and ride safe.
Must try a Tenere. The Africa Twin is gaining traction here it seems but I saw a BMW, Yamaha, Triumph, Honda test a year or so ago and the BMW romped all but cost and the Yamaha seemed to drop into 2nd in most categories. It’s probably not as big an issue as us ‘prima Donna’s’ make out but your right. It should work all the time at that price. Many do what you do and use the Nav as everything and that seems to work better but you then lose handlebar control. Ride safe and often 👍🏻
Thanks Nick, really informative video, I’m using Nav 5 and iPhone XR and have solved most issues using this method. Let’s hope the new TFT update solves the phone drop outs. By the way I use Packtalk Bold as my headset which has a great app for settings but had a lot of issues with a Sena 10u fitted to my Schuberth E1 helmet.
I think that is indicative of the various products at play. I do believe some suppliers struggle to correctly implement protocols laid down by the likes of Bluetooth and try to embellish their own hacks to it and that’s where we then struggle. BMW for example have done this with their communicator which extends Bluetooth to work with volume in the wonder wheel. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Thank you Nick
Great tutorial video, it works. Thank you again, Tony
No worriesTony. Glad it worked. Ride safe 👍🏻
Brilliant nick - Thank you!
Hope it helps you Huw 👍🏻
Great video. Explains a few things. Thanks.
No worries Phil. Hope it helps people 👍🏻
Nice informative video Nick!
Thank you. Still bits I missed out like the volumes but glad I carried a few along 👍🏻