How to win as an INTP
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INTPs if they're not careful can turn into hollywoods archetypical losers. But, INTPs have crazy power, should they choose to wield it...
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At first, I thought that developing Fe and becoming more "whole" is a way to "win" as INTP but then I quickly realised that it's actually not. Like it or not, most of the recommendations I've got from other people are about improving "emotional intelligence", whatever that means. Of course, I do know the term but I would not call it intelligence. I have an image that INTP's concept/model/type is a balance of "self" and "them" and there are so many of "them" that you absolutely cannot satisfy each and every one of "them" to the fullest. So, it's just a matter of making the balance right. Maybe that's why INTP's don't need that many people in their lives (the fewer people you have, the more you can give to each one of them)?
Why do INTPs need all this time to themselves? I think for creating revolutionary ideas, for change on a mass-scale. So, I would say that the recipe to win as INTP is to learn how to sell your ideas to others. We spend a hell of a lot of time pondering about god knows what. But that results in a deep analysis of any domain of our choice and that's why we can speak about such abstract and high-level ideas. Ideas are just what we are. We are our thoughts. And there must be someone that can grasp them and apply them to practical matters that can be helpful for many. That's the deep, intense motive inside INTP's brain/heart. We get a kick of it.
After watching a movie about Bill Gates (who is typed as INTP), how he attempted to solve the "shit" problem in third world countries, I realised he must be a freaking happy man: he has all the time to satisfy his hunger for knowledge and he has time to analyse globe-level problems. He got the idea and he convinced people to make it happen and they went for it (and for money, of course, so we cannot get financial interest out of the equation). That's a win for INTP to my opinion.
Nelly Kuznetsova now, I find it interesting that you first sort of denounce emotional intelligence (“whatever that means” has some very cynical undertones), and then say that the key to INTP greatness is selling your ideas to others. That REQUIRES developed EQ. If you cannot connect to people in a real way to get them involved in and excited about your ideas, the ideas are as useless as if you have never spoken them aloud. People can sense when you are disingenuous, so you have to develop some amount of emotional intelligence to communicate your ideas and get people excited. They go hand in hand
@@milo_thatch_incarnate This is true, but only partially true. If you look at a bigger picture, do you think that all people get interested only when their emotions are involved? How about people that get interested when they see a financial gain or influential gain or intellectual gain or explorational gain or stability gain... the list goes on. It's possible that the word "sell" in relation to ideas gives it a negative meaning as if it's used in advertising. What I actually meant by "selling ideas" is "convincing to take part in implementing ideas" and this has little to do with marketing. Though again it depends but it removes "disingenuous" flair.
Nelly Kuznetsova I appreciate your point of view, but I think marketing your ideas is still just as important as selling them intellectually. People are emotional beings as well as intellectual ones (those that are almost entirely unemotional are very very rare) and so either you have to be able to market to peoples hearts AND brains, or find somebody who can market to emotions while you market to the brains. That’s more of a cost to you, to hire that other person.
@@milo_thatch_incarnate "People can sense when you are disingenuous" - And that's exactly the biggest INTP problem: people who think they have the supposed "emotional intelligence" constantly seeing things that aren't there and were never meant to be there. It's a very clear conclusion that most of that "EQ" is not any kind of absolute, but just some extrovert code (which may also vary region to region and culture to culture, making it a bigger mess) which has very low reliability regularly giving both false positives (and constantly manipulated for that - now these manipulations are often recognizable by INTPs and perceived as deeply negative, where other people too often let those slide. Even worse, that's what INTP defines as "disingenuous") and false negatives (INTP is likely to have a collection of such cases with no clearly definable pattern other than people making things up).
And even when you try to learn it, people totally fail at explaining what exactly they pay attention to - other than giving overall feedback completely unrelated to what you were truing to communicate.
And if your advise is basically "learn to do what you consider disingenuous (primarily, social manipulations) in order not to be perceived as disingenuous" - that's a very self-defeating advise, as it basically boils down to everything being or seeming disingenuous for completely random reasons.
Emotional intelligence? What a load of bollocks! 😁
On second thought... I dismiss it because I suck big time in that department. 😒
“How to win as an INTP”
**Clicks**
“firstly, you have to leave your bedroom”
**Minimizes screen**
“Or do you?”
**Comes back :)**
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
ROFL LMMAAMHAHAHHAAHH
LOL!
We live in a time and age where I can get shit talked in the United States by someone in Zimbabwe
*I never have to leave home*
For some reason I heard "You have to be good in your bedroom"
You lost me at "firstly you have to leave your bedroom"
@@NathanJGlass no problem😂😂
@@sallimaknil 😂😂
Yeah that caught me off guard
Time to find a job that lets me work from home.
As I lie in my bed in my room
I 100% agree that INTPs are suited for advisory roles. We're not good decision makers. However, we are great at giving ALL the perspective to someone who can make decisions.
I relate but at the same time I don't think it is such a major thing that cannot ever possibly be solved. I think INTP could make great entrepreneurs. For example, Alex Becker is an INTP and he does very wel earning 35k a day with his company Hyros. He actually did the test and showed in one of his videos, so he very likely an INTP.
It is not that we can't be an entrepreneur, it is that we're less suited for that while better suited for being advisor.
@@gildedphoenix Agree to disagree. I think INTPs are excellent entrepreneurs. Including myself, my business is doing good. Not great, since I just started.
I personally find it stupid to correlate types with things, entrepreneurship and business is a matter of gathering the correct knowledge, like most things in life. Entrepreneurship and business are way too broad to think black and white about it.
@@johnyaiden7609 completely agree. What people choose to do is a combination of what they enjoy doing, what they want to do, and what they feel comfortable with doing. If you have 2 of the three, the third tends to follow.
@@johnyaiden7609 in fact, one of Google's founders is an INTP.
An INTP - ENTJ duo is the most potential duo to take over the world. INTP as the advisor and ENTJ as the executor.
One way of figuring out if you are an INTP or ENTP is whether or not you get along well with ENTJs. I have great respect for ENTJs but I can’t stand being told what to do. INTPs get along with them much better.
@@seventhsheaven Ti and Te do not work together that well...I do not think most intps can get along with entj's
INTP - ISTP duo is better
@@KnucklesForSkull can be kinda so-so at times (intp with istp sister)
@@PowerRedBullTypology I think it has less to do with type and more to do with mutual respect. I need a ton of respect for someone to do things for them if they haven't demonstrated why it's a good idea. No amount of respect will get me to do something that I can confirm is a bad idea. If someone tells me to "just do it", my response is "No, I'm never doing anything for you and whatever you wanted from me, consider it my life's mission that you never get it.". I may have problems with authority.
My best advice for an intp is "just start and finish" because those are the hardest parts for us. Ironically those are the things that don't require much work.
100% agree sitting down and beginning + finishing what I am doing completely are harder then doing the work itself if that makes sense
I disagree, sometimes they require the most work...
Because we get stuck on wanting the perfect conditions (mood, scenario, timing) before doing basically anything.
PS: I'm about to do my dishes at 10:45pm. Not the perfect time, but learning to 'just do it'..
@@bliss252 I have that same thing happen all the time.
Holy gods, I thought only I am such creature who just cannot starting and finishing things easily. Doing that is mostly no problem. I think it's the avoid of change in any way (both starting and finishing is a change of the process)
"Firstly: you have to leave your bedroom"
This is exactly where I'm watching this video, what kind of sorcerer are you?
I calculated many people would be situated in their bedrooms when watching this video. My desired reactions included: hitting pause and looking from side to side to see where I was lurking, and searching for hidden cameras.
“Firstly leave the bedroom”
I’m one step ahead of you!
*Im on the couch!*
"Truth and logic are not always that charming." I love that quote.
As you get deeper, it gets really brutal for muggles 😎
As an INTP, I feel the biggest obstacle when it comes to teaching/coaching for me, is the overtly sensitive people. A lot of times, I have people getting offended/pissed off, or upset left right and center, because I gave them an answer that the weren't expecting, the truth. We're approaching towards a society where everybody needs to be politically correct, and there's a need to sugar coat everything. This is beyond me. I would rather stick to my room, thank you very much.
Same here, but I just don’t care what they think or how they react. I literally don’t care. If someone doesn’t like the way I am, that’s their problem, not mine. Truth is always more important than other people’s subjective emotions.
I married an ISFJ. I make her do the talking for me. Lmao.
Same
Yeah me too. Almost Everyone in my life doesn't get that when im insulting them most of the time its just banter its just how i talk. The only one who kinda understands me is my dad
I've been shunned by family, friends and community because I have honest, politically incorrect understanding of the world and thats why I distanced myself from society cause I see this sensitive PC mindset manifest in media, academia and politics. I feel I'd be hanged for blasphemy for speaking my mind!
I've said so many times in my life that my ideal role is support. I want to work closely with people in charge without having any authority over or under me. Free of hierarchy, but respected for my insights. I want to be utilized as a resource for the people that have motivation to do and then I'll be free to study everything I want. I think the ideal state for the INTP is when they are the commodity to sell and not the fruits of their labor.
My thoughts exactly.
I'm a software tester, it kind of feels like this.
Only problem is, how do you get to a position like that? Especially one where you're payed a lot for it?
@@NoHaBi02 psychology is a good one, another good example would be consultants.
@@colinrobertson7580 I do love studying psychology on my own time; however, I've heard many people explain how unreliable a psychology degree is compared to others.
being an INTP is already a win
@@NoCharName Outsmarting the AI is still an option.
@@NoCharName i'll install hacks if needed to
not really.
idk about you but im pretty sure being an intp means ive already lost
@Elena Macovei well I'm an INTP and I can tell you I wish I wasn't. I'm going to college next year and have noticed for many years now that I am the fastest to pick up concepts in class but then I come in a week later and everyone is ahead of me, solely for the fact that I can't put my head down for 2 minutes and actually study at home. Then there's college, I literally have no idea what I want to do. I think I want to have a high income but I'm concerned I will earn that and become depressed, realising I hate my work and don't value money like I thought I would. I wish I was just able to make decisions, stop getting trapped in my thoughts and not be constantly questioning my ability/values.
Great video, but somewhat unrealistic advice like "leave the bedroom" ;)
What next is Nathan gonna do? Tell a snake to grow legs?
Exactly, can't seem to wrap my mind around not leaving the bedroom part! 😂
@@shreyanshsingh1337 It's a joke man!
I was just explaining to one of my friends that I neglect my childhood friends in traditional terms, but part of my refinement process is only choosing friends who have that foundational mutual understanding where I don’t have to dance around for them to like me.
"Firstly, you have to leave your bedroom"
Me, an INTP , watching this, still in bed, on a monday, at 9:35am .... no thanks
Same here, except I haven't slept yet.
i feel u
lmaooo its monday 9:32 here
This is me in every sense
Hello there, it’s 2pm and I’m still in bed
“Great at advice, shit at comfort”
-INTP
Just don't follow the wrong boss who take your credit and ideas as their own and sell it off to other to benefit themselves. Be really careful.
this is on point
Absolutely
As INTP, I find ENTJ, ENFP, and ESTP take my advice really seriously
entp too for me :))
@@eva.1826 No. They will just debate your advice. Even if they agree
but just because entps debate doesnt mean they arent taking it seriously, they are simply bringing on new perspectives just in the wrong way, we do value others opinions but sometimes debates let people expand on their opinion so much more than leaving it as is, not taking it seriously is simply ignoring and disregarding it - you cant properly debate unless you understand the other side properly anyways. as an ambivert i often switch between intp and entp but i guess there is a spectrum of intelligence despite many being intp.
ESTP? Hahahaha tell me how to get through to my ESTP boss
I’ve tutored people before and it was great for me, I had to figure out how do people learn and how to “pass knowledge” in an intelligible way and it has opened many doors since.
That's funny, I have a difficult time tutoring or teaching. I get frustrated when the student is not getting the concept even though to the best of my ability, I'm explaining it in the most reduced state I possibly can. It just all goes bad, the student gets frustrated when they realize I'm flustered both at myself & them 🤷
i've tutored as an INTP and always found it really challenging but very rewarding when the student or their parent comes back to you and says thank you.... Unfortunately, it seems that if you want to pursue a "real" office job, no recruiter or HR personnel seems to think teaching is a relevant job..?
Emily McGuirk that’s true :/ although in case it was a useful experience in my case due to the type of job that I was looking for just recently - I’m brazilian and I was trying to apply for a job in a Canadian company here in Brazil , since I used to teach English, I could prove that I had enough English knowledge to work there.
Not only that but I also pulled off some bullsht about the experience improving my interpersonal skills lol actually it wasn’t really bullsht, but an “extended” reality
i was a teacher and i struggled very hard with stupidity and absurdity from top to bottom (which was overwhelming). Some students said later i was the best teacher they ever had. But that gave me zero pleasure. I know just how bad the other teachers are. Plus i don't care the slightest about public recognition or praise.
Just give me an ENTJ. We'll conquer the world in 2 weeks.
One of my best friends is an entj and I'm am intp
My gf is an ENTJ
we lit :)
INTP financial advisor here. I'm paid for telling people what to do with their money, based on my research. This job seems to be made for people like us
Leaving my bedroom ? What do you mean by that ? Going out for a walk, or sitting in a café waiting for somebody to ask you something ?? cuz it is complicated to start a conversation out of nothing. Many peolpe dont have time to listen to you or go deeply into a conversation.. they have tasks to do, and friends to go out with. Making friends is hard.
Leaving that comfort zone. For example, introverts trying/learning small talk here and there. you'd eventually latch on common ground discussions both may be conversant with.
It's very hard for me too, but I realized it's impossible if I don't put myself in the conditions to meet someone.
Going for a walk or sitting in a bar alone trying muster the courage to start a conversation out of the blue is the hardest way, you may get discouraged and give up.
I suggest instead to find some group in your area that does an activity you're interested in, like a sport, or reading books/watching movies and then discussing them (not sure if there's a specific name in english for that), or whatever, and join it. This way, the chances of finding a friend are much higher. You'll probably feel less awkward starting a conversation with someone in the group than with a complete stranger, and you already know you share at least one interest with them.
@@luisa146 Thank you, but in my area are very few such groups, but I'm not sure there are at all. The thing you're saying is great, I totally agree, but I live in a very small town, so here most teenagers of my age sit in front of the computer, or they're preparing for school.
@@daeghoo4773 Well that sucks! And I know cause as a teen I was in a similar situation. That only changed when I went to university in another city. Still, keep your eyes open, I'm sure you'll find something eventually. Good luck and have a nice day!
Luisa
Thank-you for those tips! They’re super helpful. Now to implement them:)
What I've found is that, as an INTP(my rational front/face/persona and ego) I don't really care much about recognition and subjects of ambition and power. I'm content being in the state of contemplation and analytical thinking.
But my Shadow(collective unconscious/parts of me that I'm not quite proud of or choose to not accept) is quite the opposite. It seeks that power and authority that my Ego constantly banishes from my mind.
My choice to not submit and do things my own way, often takes me to places(both overt and covert) where I am inevitably made the leader and looked up to. Part of me likes it, I can't deny.. but again, the rest of me just wants to go into 'hermit' mode again.
Exactly
I am an INTP and you just described my relationship with my wife. She is the one that gets out there doing it - I am the guide behind the scenes. Being an INTP is a very frustrating exercise sometimes. People either resent the fact that you are right so often or they ignore it and you have to watch them make exactly the mistake you warned them against....
How did you speak to a women ...? I'm so lost with them
"... especially your relationships with romantic partners." Is this some cruel joke?
Mere Gaming lol!
😭😂😭
Intp trump voting male I'm dieing alone lol
@@noo343 you're not an intp if you'd be stupid enough to vote for trump, but i guess any type can be stupid and mbti isn't a measure of intelligence
If I weren't locked in my room I probably wouldn't be watching this. Is that really what you want.
😂 This cracked me up
🤣😂😅
„Let's be alone together”
That's something I said to my friend a long time ago and I think it's my INTP essence.
I appreciate the amount of effort you put into editing to ensure that your message is conveyed as accurately and concisely as possible. Like it's amazing how each word is intentional, there are no filler words, it's just 100% information and I commend you very highly for that, good sir.
@@NathanJGlass definitely aids my ability to digest your content so thanks for the hard work! i appreciate it.
I'd be interested to see what the real, unfiltered Nathan is like though O_o also random question but what's your enneagram type / wing type if you don't mind me asking?
--- oh and thanks for the quick response!!
@@NathanJGlass I see. Well, when you do decide to peer into that world, I would recommend this test: www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test-2
It tests for your enneagram as well as something known as your instinctual variant.
quarantine... pfff, that's just a lifestyle!
Yes... and I've realised it's my lifestyle ~ Nathan
I'm an INTP and work as a product manager, which means I'm choosing the best ideas I hear and fighting for them within the company. Then someone else actually makes them happen. It's pretty perfect!
Woah thank you for this info! Helps a lot in choosing a function to apply to :D.
A deep sigh from an INTP, a Policy Advisor and a Tutor by profession, who is "overqualified" and "socially awkward" (and hence works as a Gardener and Cleaner). Oh, well, show must go on, I suppose...
Perhaps I have given myself over to the dark side of INTP but when it comes to being an advisor, my outlook now is: listen to me to your benefit or ignore to your peril. I'm good either way.
We were all in bed, including me! 😂😂😂
Lol! Glad to know I wasn’t the only one! < Nathan
I think the problem with a lot of INTPs, or at least in my case is that we lose hope. Why should we keep looking to be accepted and successful when we’ve always failed. Its crushed my spirit as a kid.
I taught myself how to read by listening to my parents teach my older sister and just hanging around, that kind of set the bar for the rest of my life. By 8 i was reading my mom’s college papers for fun. I used books as an escape to a world where i belonged..... where i really felt like i was surrounded by friends who truly cared about me and understood what it was like to be me. I was outcasted at school even as a kid and i was lucky to have 6 people who would notice i existed. I was constantly lonely. With a deep need to feel loved and accepted by the people who would never give that to me. Im 87% logic/feeling so i dont really understand when people get EXTREMELY emotional over trivial bs. On top of it im a female INTP and fluctuate between INTP and INTJ depending on what mood im in when i take the test. I was an extremely gifted child but now im just burnt out. Life took more from me than i gave it as a child. And being logical it makes no sense to keep trying and giving when nothing ive done has worked or made me happy. And ive tried everything under the sun. I stopped trying.
I type as INTP and this I can relate to very much unfortunately. The failures and the loss of hope is crushing. So much so that I want to change my personality entirely. The easiest lever I think is if we can try to expand our extraversion. If we can become more extraverted, more ENTP-like, we are likely to be more productive I think. But the INTP is possibly the most introverted of all MBTIs, so perhaps that is too much of an ask?
I just wrote a huge paragraph someplace else's about how I always end up feeling depressed and out of place. I can certainly relate to what you said. I think the 'being a female' factor might play a role in increasing the feeling of hopelessness, maybe because rational and logic are more commonly attributed to a male predominance, which makes us feel even more misunderstood. Maybe because our type has a fragile equilibrium when matched with our hormonal or social baggage. I don't know.
You are neither an INTP nor an INTJ. Your grammar is awful.
Carolina Gutierrez leave
Giving up = Suicide. Find the strength in you to grow from those painfull experiences.
My personal mantra “Maybe I don’t know, but I will figure it out.” I blame it on my mood disorder- that I have the most brilliant ideas, but rarely execute any of them. The more I see videos about INTP I realize it’s not just a mood it’s my personality 😂. After working for 15 years I am a director of a company. I come up with what to do and they do. I’ve spent this pandemic by myself in a separate office without anyone. Just my computer and phone. It feels so natural and perfect. This video was perfectly accurate, kudos to you.
I am old, about to retire. Only in the last 5 years I realized how stabilizing it could be for me to have an emotional ally, ie, a mate who has my back and not offended by my lack of emotional display. I know i will feel desolate in old age being single and alone. However, finding that kind of partner is not entirely up to me.
I hope you're okay.
While being an "advisor" seems like a great idea, as you can be basically a puppet-master, but the problem is finding people that will listen to you, most people dont want truth or practicality, they want validity for thier ideas, they want people to confirm that thier ideas are right and when its not they will get all effy about it, so thats a no for me.
I'd rather work a bit harder and learn to take decisions and have a bit more control over my life, than to try and talk some sense into people who dont want you to be right. the only authority I don't hate is the authority I have over myself.
The problem isn't the people it's you. Develop your communication skills to be more compelling and use the right strategies to find people worth spreading your ideas to.
@@thereisnospoon9059 While that is right, my communication skills are quite horrible, and it has been a obstacle in all sorts of scenarios that I have been in, as a matter of fact my communication skills and vocabulary have drastically improved since I wrote that comment, and it most definitely feels liberating to be able to better express my ideas properly like a normal human being. But my dislike for association with others hasn't really changed, I love going out with friends, I love chatting with people, however, I don't like working with other people, I don't like explaining my ideas to other people and most importantly I fucking despise debating with people, improving my communication skills haven't changed any of that in any shape or form, infact when I became better spoken, I had come to realise that it isn't that people don't understand me because I am not communicating my ideas properly, but rather because they are so fixated on their (not thier lol) own ideas that they don't take the time to try and digest my side of the argument. So I hope you can see where I am coming from.
@@stevieboi3319 "(not their)" xd I 100% approve this message. All I can say is that there really are interesting people in the world, they exist. If you feel this way it could be because you don't get out enough. You might be stuck in Si, where you always do the same things and go to the same types of places. Us INTPs have this problem. What helped me is I literally moved countries and started doing things I never did before and accepted every invitation I got. I'm surrounded by so many interesting people now that I have to pick and choose since I don't have time for everyone. This wasn't the case for the 99% of my life, it only happened once I provided enough chaos to break out of Si and fuel my Ne.
@@thereisnospoon9059 How do you provide chaos 🤣
High levels of education is one of the easy ways for being heard and agreed with. One of the nobel laureates was all about "now people take me seriously and agree with everything I say and they actually reply to my emails.
INTP's killer-truth may cause someone's suicide. Inferior function: GRAVEYARD
Aren't INTPs' inferior function the charismatic one?
Our top function's more like:
_G R A V E Y A R D…_
@@hotshots149 ?
@@TaxingIsThieving ??
I'm an intp, I must admit I like how you structure your speech when articulating an idea/information. Plus your videos have significantly helped me understand that in life I should lean more in investing in my strengths than trying to focus all my time on trying to overcome my weaknesses but getting no where. Not that I'm implying that improving my abilities in my weaknesses isn't important but rather that it's not wise to invest all my time in trying to improve them at the cost of bettering my strengths
Teaching in schools will not always work well for INTPs-- they'll barely get past the interview process (in my experience!!)-- but!
INTPs can be great teachers in serious private studios or in tutoring. I highly recommend it. Very fulfilling-- just remember that the lessons will be great once you're there. As always, INTPs freak about having a commitment later in the day-- but the commitments are always fun once you're there.
The theory of mind that INTPs can construct-- the parsing of cognition structure-- makes them invaluable for learners. MANY people can do things but not explain it. INTPs can explain it.
(INFP) "How to win as an INTP"
This was stunningly detailed and equally eye opening. Honestly I can say I understand the Human Condition this much more now.
I always knew that a long term romantic partner would be so beneficial and comforting to me even before I realised I was an INTP and after asking some INTPs on reddit I realised how they really like to be alone and not much think of getting into a relationship which made me overthink and just doubt myself as being an INTP but thank you for clarifying this and kind of proving my point (It's impossible to prove such a thing but I really appreciate people thinking like I do)
i only want ONE person in my life - a significant other. Too hell with everyone else. I realize this is putting all of my eggs into one basket and is therefore a bad idea. But, it seems efficient. It is may be too much of a burden for that S.O., though - unless he is an INTP.
Sometimes I'll be having a very intellectually stimulating conversation with an INTP, then I'd use an inaccurate word.
Alarms would go off, all hell would break loose and we wouldn't be able to continue the conversation until the word is identified as inaccurate, arrested and then executed.
INTPs why do you do that? Can't you just get the gist of what I'm trying to say?
you mean if you use an inaccurate word, intps will pause the conversation and correct you ?
@@lovewho Lu, inaccuracies can lead to huge misunderstandings..
@@lovewho Even if they arent earth shattering, getting USED TO choosing the most accurate words means that you will not use inaccurate words when inaccuracies ARE earth shattering.. (sorry, im an intp.)
oh god, it took me ten minutes to write that comment ..
@@daeghoo4773 and you just proved their point
we're cursed
I wish I wasn't such a coward when it comes to interactions with humans.
Totally my husband lmao...ENFP + INTP = amazing imaginary theory of never ending possibilities while the world goes round and round.
“Firstly you’ll have to leave your bedroom”
The living room couch is closer to the fridge and my pc anyways.
I am in my bed and it is 12:00 pm on "beautiful" summer day allegedly.
Lol love it ~ Nathan
You did not play the Vsause theme song after you said ”or do you?”
I am disapoint
This is great, I had thoughts about being some type of teacher/coach and it always seemed like a good idea. thank you!
It took me 25 years to realize I should have been a teacher.
Excellent advice, and such an insightful post. I have taught on and off for decades, usually small numbers. I found it enormously enjoyable, but only on the short term. Exhaustion sets in and none needs to return to ones rooms to recharge. Still its something I get a kick out of it when I get the time to do it.
I keep wondering if I am really an INTP and then he says things that exactly explain the way I think, it’s scary... get out of my head!
But your head is such a interesting place to be... ~ Nathan
Omg! This makes me so happy because it confirms my observations and what others say my strengths are! I had some people saying I could be a good tutor if I decided to reach at uni and I've noticed I'm really good at pointing out flaws, weak points in a design and proposing solutions to fix them and then improving greatly projects of my uni friends and my sibling. People come to me for advice too (though more on stuff that's not about relationships haha, more like work- related problems). And I take great joy in improving other's work like this! Especially if that person was about to give up their ambition and turn in whatever that's passable but I managed to inspire them again so we can be proud of the result together! It's a bit tricky though because to advise like that, I should first become really good and experienced in the field I'm advising for, right? Ah and that means actually doing the work myself. But at least this gives me a clear goal to push myself through this, to be able to reach the role I was meant for in the end! And I've realised something that makes "doing the work" less dull, that it's arrogant to assume you can foresee how everything goes, how the system works, without actually doing the thing, that we can actually see all of the variables and how they interact. In reality, things often have these random elements of chaos in them and learning to avoid them can best be achieved by actually doing the thing. It's just like with drawing, once you can convey more complexity, your ideas themselves get more complex and there's more deliberate choices there, more logic because you can understand better what interacts with what.
This works for me. I’m a teacher in my field, but among my peers and not from a position of authority.
Yay! More INTP videos. I’m an INFJ with an INTP and I can’t find enough videos on them. He studies me a lot through INFJ videos but I can’t find a lot of in depth INTPs videos to study him. 😆
I can tell you from experience I work a hundred times better in collaboration. Apparently for me thinking a problem through in my head is just the same as actually doing it, which is why those shelves didn't get put up today. Having a partner tends to make me take action.
This was simple and true and well-stated. Thank you for the awareness. It all makes beautiful sense!
I've always preferred advisory roles to executive. I can do my research and be the distinguished engineer, while another person solicits my expertise and effectively advocates and executes my ideas.
Me as I'm clicking on this video: "Hmmm, I'm probably gonna hear exactly what I do not want to do..."
*watches video*
Yup.
I find it most satisfying to make my ideas known as quickly and as widely as possible, while supplying a quick explanation of the reasoning behind the ideas. Then to sit back and see what others can make of it. Sometimes it actually works.
If you’re an intp, do yourself a favour and go learn about the economy and the market. You’ll hear a calling and the amount of understanding and growth you need in a market to succeed will never ever bore you. Also, the best part is it’ll make you filthy rich over time and thru patience
So I just woke up and saw this video and click.
"Firstly, you have to leave your bedroom."
Ffs man, I don’t even want out of my bed xD
On the plus side, I’ve gotten into another room before continuing the video.
Basically INTPs are useless they need to overcome their inherent traits to become useful
This explains why I thrived as a tutor. But I can't see me in a teaching job. I prefer the one on one interaction over standing in front of a class as the object of focus. Screw that.
Very , very good advice . Usually though it takes a long while to get someone to get me seriously, because they need to be proven wrong repeatedly before they do. And most of the time i dont have the patience to try to convince someone that many times.
@@NathanJGlass Its not only that..When i was younger i observed that people often are not happy about being proven wrong. So i stopped giving my opinion to people that respond poorly to other opinions than their own. And i refined my delivery for the people i care about. It took a loooong time and effort though to learn to be diplomatic (Im doing impro so that helped a lot with practice ).
Not good elementary teachers though.
ye the bit about the person being logical is so important. there’s this guy who has the other two traits but is a bit ungrounded
I find I do my best in social situations by actively listening with a sharp focus that feels like an exhausting effort. Eventually I’ll need a breather.
Your analysis is actually spot on, at least in my case lol
"Firstly, you need to leave your bedroom"
Me, in my bedroom: Ah, shit.
"Or do you?"
Me: 🤔🤔🤔
My old man is also an INTP, his secret sauce, as it were, is communication, either in the written word, or in presentation.
Listening to this, I just realized, he mastered his Fe, by picking two essential mediums, and really only those two, and specializing in them. Even his small talk is more, "Here's my deployable pocket presentation," rather than free-form small talk.
Love Who: Firstly, you have to leave your bedroom
Me: Oh f*ck off!
*close the tab*
It is hard when you only want to help but everyone hates you for it...
Me, as an INTP, watching this in bed at 8pm (yes, pm), after just waking up... "Firstly, you have to leave your bedroom, or do you?"
that you have to leave your bedroom gave me a heart attack
I have to say being overwhelmed is both the cause and the symptom of setbacks. I would have to leave the house i would ask, or would I want to leave the house. I only leave the house when I have to, which sounds like a duty which in itself causes another dose of mental anguish. When this standoff is reached, I pump myself with B-vitamins, Caffeine, and phosphorus(Potassium phosphate) , and I leave the house and do great Extroverted Sensing things.
love how cheeky added "Online" a last spoken word. ;]
Entj and intp sounds like a deadly duo Bec entjs can push intp's into actually doing something productive and intp's will make great advice and plans for entj's to do
I relate to everything you said. Nice video!
I struggle with training / teaching other people. I tend to pick things up very quickly, so if I’m trying to show someone how to do something that doesn’t also pick things up straight away or if they are more focused on having a chat than concentrating on the task at hand, I find it hard.
"firstly you have to leave your bedroom"
alright I don't need to listen to the rest (so I put it in x1.5 and completed the video)
~INTP
I was fortunate to be trusted advisor to the boss for many years at work and it was a perfect arrangement. He knew to take my advice seriously and could count on me to find efficient and out-of-the-box solutions with little expectation of me to carry them out. #2 is the best spot for intp!
"Firstly leave your bedroom"
Biggest challenge ever😂💔
Thanks you. This is relevant and helpful in my case.
INTPs and the Wizard archetype probably go hand-in-hand.
Great advice btw!
The one bit of it I haven't had luck with is teaching. There's something nerve wrecking in dealing with a final customer whose entire intellectual growth might be threatened by literally your every gesture -- including every scenario where you stutter or prioritize accuracy over faking self-assurance after a lifetime learning to do just the opposite to fit into other social scenarios -- WHILE struggling to connect with their needs and not get carried away by the subject matter. It's not that we can't do it, but it felt like trying too hard for me. Tutoring is a different story, though.
summary: he said get out of your room and find a girlfriend in an intp way
Here’s the problem with the idea of an INTP associating as an adviser to those in authority. Management positions, as I experienced them during my entire working career, were filled with the most narcissistic individuals-the least likely person an INTP could align themself with. These narcs were always defensive, particularly towards those who were independent thinkers, surrounding themselves only with sycophants. It was disgusting! I love strong people, people with intelligence and courage but those types were as rare as hen’s teeth. That’s why when Trump says he wants to drain the swamp, man can I relate-it was swamp, through and through! The government was the pettiest, stupidest and most wasteful operation imaginable.
Your advice is really accurate. I am really good at teaching. Before exams etc. I used to teach my classmates and they learned it so well, they had better scores than I did
"You have to leave your bedroo-"
*closes video*
I think the most frustrating thing is when you genuinely think of good solutions or plans of action for someone and they just do the exact opposite and screw themselves even more. Some people don’t want to hear the right solution (edited, I don’t wanna say that I have the right solution every single time but I think it will definitely be a step in the right direction)
Agreed! ~ Nathan
I don't see a huge problem if they screw after the advice was given. The huge problem is to be called to help them solve the mess they made 2 or more times in a row.
First thing... Sitting in my bedroom while listening to you saying.. You have to leave your bedroom.. So screwed my life 😂😭😅
This *cut* video is very *cut* interesting *cut* and very well thought *cut* out
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask...
But because I love the way you describe cognitive functions, and because there are very few videos about ISTJs, I am hoping you would do one about them soon. My friend is an istj, and most videos miss her funny, odd side. Thank you.
Leave the bedroom? That’s totally unreasonable
Yesterday I spent 3 hours figuring out how to fix my broken trash bin and ultimately bought a new one .
But the question is why did I spent 3 hours trying to fix it when everyone said to get a new one.
"Firstly, you have to leave your bedroom ".To me, this sentence is more scary than a horror movie
The first sentence made me gasped 😆
when things are complex or nuanced , which is always ,
Indeed! ~ Nathan
Yeah this is all great insight but how do I get my INTP teenager to shower more than once a week? 😆
Find yourself some research that backs up why it is important for him as a human being to shower. Preferably, some sort of scientific argument that has nothing to do with social interactions
Showering once a week is ok :DD
Dániel Köllő
GOD NO
😂😂
Tell them that people won't be attracted to them/ won't like them.Inferior Fe can worry about how other ppl feel about them. That should be enough. Go for the juggular. That's what they respect.
Interesting video, good job! I especially agree with the part on teaching. With the people I have invested time into & effectively undergo 'mentoring', together, we accomplish a lot & I feel that I have made a positive contribution to the people around me, and I get quite a bit of gratification from those experiences. I am definitely home 99% of the time when off work though...