$100 vs $100,000 Seiko | Watchfinder & Co.
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- In 2021, something extraordinary happened. A Seiko, from 2016, with a quartz movement, sold for just shy of $100,000 at auction. Granted, it was the Grand Seiko SBGD001, but nevertheless it puts a disparity between it and this-one of Seiko’s cheapest offerings, the SNXS79-of 1,000%. So, what does that extra $99,900 get you?
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Watching on the toilet 👍
Same here🤣👍
Same here!
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I love my SNXS79! It fits my public school teacher budget. Classy, but affordable.
Am also Saving up for it, I never thought I could find a watch that I can afford and actually love
Haha
Mine is ~25yrs old. 20$ in India. To increase accuracy watch opened and regulated, step by step. No need to shell out a fortune for swiss crap. Admitted-I have a Grand Reveil, JlC....not for daily use!
It matches a teacher's intelligence, too. Takes brains to choose a good looking watch for that price.
@@sotecluxan4221 What makes you say Swiss crap?
As a happy owner of a 7S26-driven Seiko, I have grown used to setting it on Monday morning if I haven't worn it over the weekend or tweaking the minute hand a bit here or there once or twice a week for the reliability and style for the exceptionally low price-point. And for a small price upgrade, Seiko offers models with the 4R36 which offers hand-winding and hacking convenience.
Damn never knew the 4R36 was nicer cause I saw it mentioned so little. I assumed bigger number = more better.
There's even mods replacing the movement to enjoy of handwind and hacking
If you have it regulated [adjusted for time keeping] it should keep good time.
I never set the day and date. Just the hour and minute.
More SEIKO videos!
1000% is only 10x so &$1000. The watch costs 1000x which is 100,000%.
Thank you, this bothered me so much
Glad to see another Seiko video. I recently finally bought my first watch. A Seiko King Turtle diver with ceramic bezel, saphire crystal, a 4R36 movement, day/date function, and hacking for $850 CA. This watch is seriously overlooked.
Congrats on your purchase. They sell a truckload of turtles, king turtles included. Given a large number of variations within this family, the king sits above the basic turtles (non ceramic bezel models) and a small stretch away from the “superior” Willard remake models. I believe this makes buying the king a slightly interesting proposition. In addition to this, the seiko five sports sk5 was exploding hard , land tortoise was released not long after (better dimensions for me), both cheaper from memory. I don’t think the KING TURTLE was overlooked, I think it’s in that price point that pivots the buyers up or down.
I would buy a king turtle in a heartbeat if it didn't have that awful magnifying glass on it. Congrats on your purchase!
I have a King Samurai first watch i own dont regret it :)
A 4r36 for $850?
@ChromeMan04 I agree with this but what is sad is the 4R36 movements may even be more accurate than the 6R15 which was placed on $800 watches and is pretty bad in accuracy. It was always toted as being better but my examples of it run so so bad.
Great watch. I have the blue dial version and it is my daily driver. When the light catches it just right, the dial is absolutely stunning.
Minor point: the disparity in price is 1000-fold, which is 100,000% (technically, a 99,900% difference)
I love the Seiko 5s. Looks great, great value. There's just something I love about the 7s26 movement. Maybe it takes us back a 100 years where the technology is simple, but useful and robust
I collect vintage Seiko's. I used to collect rolex but they went crazy. What I like most is when I buy one and take it for servicing the guy is happier that I brought a vintage Seiko in than when I used to take a Rolex in...
I dropped mine one time in the bathroom and it malfunctioned. It's just not that robust as far as I'm comcerned.
@@ncode03 like all watches in the world dont let them fall on the floor, mecanich or even quartz..
@@ncode03my only Seiko 5 with the 7s26 has fallen 3 times..... And it runs -10 a day ... I've been lucky. The only one can manage falls is Casio g shock
This is what I love about Seiko . There's a watch for ever budget. And even the Seiko5 is a great watch for $100 did I mention the Seiko 5 is a automatic....!!!
I know it's a small detail but I'm in love with the fact that the second hand continuously moves instead of jumping from tick to tick on the GS
you mean basically automatic watches? this kinda movement is common in all mechanical watches
@@ayush_17 lol no, that type of movement is completely absent in automatic watches and is only seen in quartz watches (except for grand seiko spring drive but that took like 30 years to achieve)
@@Malik-9977it isn't seen in quartz watches, it's only in the spring drive
@@Malik-9977 you can also get it on the 300usd Bulova Precisionist quartz watch. Few quartz watches can achieve what automatics do.
I like the Seiko 5 that I bought 25 years ago. Not wearing it everyday but when I do, I feel it's beautiful look and reliability. All for the cost of US$30 back then.
Love my Seiko 5 SNK371K1 and old seiko 5 in general. So many interesting options
I'd like to see a Sekio 5 compared to a luxury vintage watch from the 50's or 60's. Under the microscope and time keeping ability. Has modern day machining achieved what hand finishing did decades ago.
I have a friend who owns a chain of watch shops here in Bulgaria. They are made in china to his specification - all by machine obviously. He showed me samples of a new line, they are finished to Grand Seiko levels of finish - by machine. So the answer is - modern-day machining is as good as modern-day hand finishing.
And that is why fake Patek Philip etc are utterly indistinguishable.
You can design a watch and the companies in China will make it for you - just tell them the desired level of finish. It will cost you between $10 and $1500 wholsale.
@@piccalillipit9211 Where can I find these Chinese companies?
@@PeerKristijan - Knowing Chinese companies they will be advertising on the internet - if you just search for them. I have never asked my friend as it would look like I wanted to set up in competition. Its just polite not to ask that sort of thing. But I doubt they would be difficult to find.
I got the Seiko 5 with the blue dial. Had it for years now and wearing it daily and still the depth of the blue when the sun hits the dial astonishes me.
Bought a snsx79 as a gift for someone who did me a favour. After seeing it a few times on the wrist I bought one for myself. I actually like the jangly bracelet- it looks great
Seiko is really in its stride now: it's executing very good watch designs for all budgets, and at the same time bringing genuine technical and artistic innovation to the industry.
They're also spreading the design and artistic innovation across all ranges, and not just limiting to the exclusive lines. The Presage range has stunning dials echoing the best of Grand Seiko, the Prospex range is adopting new materials and finishes. Even the 5 range gets into the game, with its limited edition anime models. Seiko is building long term relationships with watch enthusiasts at every level.
Contrast this behaviour with some other brands: creating demand through artificial supply limits and double-digit %% annual price increases, limiting sales to customers based on historical purchases, and producing "new" models that are only re-skins of last year's, and basing most of your brand on one or two models that came out 50 years ago. Don't get me wrong, they do make very fine watches (and a few clunkers) , but innovation and artistry are not exactly thriving*.
* Ok, every big brand does produce technology and artistic demonstrator, but they are so inaccessible to all but the ultra wealthy, and have zero influence on anything else they make... So what's the point
Based and seikopilled
You nailed it with that comment.
IMO, they've made a disappointing decision that some of the watches in Seiko's Prospex Line are far more expensive than GS. I think that is should've been under the GS brand.
@@callmeplez813 bro, I've worn Seiko for 30 years; I'm not some Stan fanboi that's just rocked up
@@BluishHuntress I can see your point; let's see how it plays out.
I cannot explain it, but I can't live without a day/date function on my watch. I can only appreciate this function via an automatic movement. I feel so cheap yet it does not seem like much to ask of a watch.
The Seiko 5 has to be one the truely great watch brands of all time. One of the first solidly reliable affordable watches. If Alec Isegonis (spelling is not my thing) designed watches instead of cars he would have designed something very similar. I have one with the with the shield logo. The non hacking thing is annoying. I also have a modern hacking Seiko 5 with the "Suzuki" logo. I absolutely love it. It's a watch you can really wear and use unlike a collectable. A proper work horse. The accuracy is good enough. If accuracy is important then don't get a mechanical of any kind. The best bit is you can really have a blast with the straps. That means you can wear something that seems new interesting and different every day that is cheap as chips. If Primark did watches it would be a Seiko 5. You know what? I'm a bit of a flieger b person. I may well have one of those Seiko 5's too. Happy days 🙂.
You mention accuracy. I set my new Seiko 5 (The Worn and Wound 10th Anniversary LE) on Thursday early morning. Wore it Thursday, yesterday and today. Just looked now, it's only gained 8 seconds. So 3 1/2 days, +8. I'll take that kind of accuracy with any watch automatic watch.
As someone with a SRPE 51 as my daily wearer, and a few classic mini posters on my wall (hopefully someday) I totally agree. That straight forward, best value for an affordable price, philosophy is shared.
Mine is ~25yrs old. 20$ in India. To increase accuracy watch opened and regulated, step by step. No need to shell out a fortune for swiss crap. Admitted-I have a Grand Reveil, JlC....not for daily use!
@@jimlittle5769 that is more or less what I have with my S5 too. I also have a a CW Trident 600 with a Selita movement. It is rated at +/- 20. In reality it is better than -5. It will be interesting too see how that holds up over time.
Two videos in one day, you are spoiling us! Content this week has been epic, thank you 😊
Not spoiling. Inundation and overkill regarding the Omega+Swatch watch! Finally giving it a rest. 🌝
I've got a solar powered seiko that says its movement is V158-0bco, it keeps time to about 1 second per 4 - 7 days, outstanding
The SNXS79 is a wonderful looking watch without doubt. I got mine some years ago for a great price. The 19mm bracelet was swapped out for a leather band pretty soon after arrival and the hands were not aligned well but for the price and that dial it became a keeper. I've yet to see the SBGD001 in the flesh but it's certainly one for me to look into at some point in the future.
*Damn, that $100 Seiko 5 is so much bang for your buck, even more so than the GS, and that's saying a lot.*
1000% means 10x more expensive not 1000x more expensive...!
Grand Seiko's finishing leaves even the finest Swiss and German watches in the dust.
No it doesn’t lmao this watch was extremely disappointing for 100k, they even had to hire a Swiss watchmaker to train them since they couldn’t figure it out
@@GODOFLIQUOR What does that have to do with finishing? Look at AP's, Pateks etc under a macro lens and compare to a Grand Seiko.
@@GODOFLIQUOR Train them on what? That's a very non-specific comment. I doubt there's very much the artisans at Grand Seiko don't know about high-end watchmaking. All companies bring in "experts" in particular fields for assistance and I bet any amount of money that the top Swiss brands have all done that too because they "couldn't figure out" something.
I love my seiko 5 which I got because of you guys in 2019, I didn't know much about mechanical watches or even how watches worked, I just liked them and what they could do so thankyou!
That micro zoom is just amazing. What type of camera do you guys use to capture shut shots? It's crazy good.
Just a macro lens and a nice soft light.
6:37 this shot is simply incredible!
Joke's on you Watchfinder, I already own the SNXS79. Your price hypes cannot harm me!
my 1966 seiko 5 with the 7s26 movement is very precise . the sales of the 5 have made seiko the giant they are today .
This particular watch, SNXS79 came out in 2013. They cost much more than 100.00 dollars NEW. Around 400 dollars I believe. The 100 dollar price is, and usually here in the states for NOS, gray market Around 150 /160 dollars . I bought one a couple months ago, love it, its my daily and it loses about 1 minute every 8 to 9 days. That's great by me.
Got mine for only 70 bucks, brand new. JDM version 😘
I've been on a rollercoaster of Goosebumps watching this video. Exceptional Narration!
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It's interesting that this video ends by speaking on Seiko's ability to cater to both ends of the price spectrum, but the Moonswatch video contends that Swatch damages the Omega brand. I think Omega is taking a page out of Seiko's playbook.
This is because the fan base for each brand is different. Omega fans (just my opinion) buy into it sometimes thinking they are better than others for owning a more expensive watch (similar to BMW owners) but Seiko owners do not have a stake in the show boat game. That is not why you buy a Seiko. It actually is something that has hurt the Seiko branding for their more expensive watches but true watch guys see thru all that.
@@akeyasa2228 strawman argument
seiko's playbook? with plastic watches? quartz? acrylic? My 6 years old seiko5 doesn't feel that CHEAP, bro.
Just check reports how the moonswatchs leave paint on hands. Cheap technology
As an Omega owner, I have to agree that a lot of them are elitist snobs.
SNXS79 is closer to a $200 watch. No way you magically found someone selling it at $100 just a few days ago.
Actually, if one is only $100 and the other $100,000, then the difference is $99,900.
That means a disparity of 99,900%. (percent = per 100)
Another correct way to say it would that the price is 1000 times higher.
(And yes, I am fun at parties...) 🙂
Came here to say this. I'm also fun at parties!
Content monster lately.. Glad of it
Just got the SNXF05 and it's sublime to say the least. I did try on a GS White Birch and about 6 to 7 k is maximum what these watches should be priced at... As you said...to notice the perfection of the GS you need optical equipment in order to fully appreciate it. Awesome watch but definitely not 1000x better than the SNX. Thank you for this clip! Amazing info, buttery voice and shots
I have a seiko 5 I was using for my working watch for 12 years . Still working very well . I bought the new one . This one very accurate only 1 s a day I love it . Thank you Seiko 5
Zoom at 9:56 is 🔥
Sorry to be a pedant but 1000% is 10x. Since the price is 1,000x, its 100,000%.
Stunning dial on the cheaper watch makes it look even better than the expensive one...
Just bought the SNXS79J1. It was a watch I wanted for a long time and I am keeping it forever.
I bought it and returned it after 2 days. As its power reserve lasted only 8-9 hours. I asked some watch dealer they said it has an outdated machine.
A spring drive chronograph has been on my watch bucket list for 10 years, they are just so amazing and innovative, one day, one day
Oooof! I have so many Seiko's. I feel kind of proud. From the 5's, through the divers, up to the GS Snowflake. Said Snowflake I purchased basically on a whim. There was this evening going to a GS dealer, just to take a look. And he told me that they have a Snowfalke there. Right now! A one that was reserved, but the guy didn't show up. I reserved it, told them to wait, went back home, watched the Snoflake video from Watchfinder to adjust myself and the next morning went there and bought it. I will never regret it. Every time I put it on my wrist it feels special. Much more special than any Rolex I had on my wrist...
I can hear this guys poetic commentary all day any day. Legend. Anyone knows his name?
As an SNXS79 owner myself, I can only confirm it is a great watch. It's my daily driver and if it breaks down I will most likely buy another one.
No doubt. I have mine for 4 years now. Still works like a charm.
If it breaks down you should get it fixed. Would be a shame for a watch with so much character to then just die off.
@@Daniel-dj7fh the cost of repair not worth it.. Better off buy a new one.. Is it worth to repair an old cheap movement?
That seiko is way too good
I love my seikos. I currently have 16 in my 18-watch growing collection. What is sad is they suffer from alignment issues on either their chapter ring or their bezels. (All but 2 of my seikos are divewatches). Even my most expensive seiko, the SNR029, still has a misaligned bezel. I was saving up to get the Grand Seiko SBGA375, but after discovering the alignment issue in my SNR029, i was so disappointed that i am now redirecting that money towards an omega smp diver's 300 instead.
I will still give seiko my money, but until their alignment issues are fixed, im not going above the 1,000 dollar price points- at least the qc issues will not hurt as bad. 😁
I hate to say it, but in spite of the video we're reacting to, you can't compare Seiko and Grand Seiko in terms of fit and finish. You will not find flaws on the SBGA375. I've previously owned the SGBV239 and 245, now I have an SGBA465 and SGBP011, and no, I honestly can't compare them to anything else I find in my watch collection. Including the 10 or so Seiko's that surround them, including the limited King Seiko. GS is simply best.
Secondly, if you expect dive bezels to align under all circumstances, don't break out a ruler and a macro lens, because you'll find that almost any rotating bezel can have some play or misalignment in some direction. It's a world of hurt for folks with OCD. I've had it on Glycines, Squales and a Halios myself, and I've seen it on Rolexes and Longines divers.... Hell, I've even held a Nautilus where the indice on 2 was crooked.
If bezel alignment is such a thing for you, get a nice racing chronograph with a bi-directional bezel that just doesn't have clicks. :) Otherwise, the SBGA375 will serve you exceptionally well.
@@Chrissepisje thanks for the encouragement. I havent closed my doors from owning a GS one day, but not the priority for the next watch purchase. I really hope when i finally get my hands on my first GS everything will be perfectly aligned, for my OCD's sake. 😅
Just visited the Grand Seiko studio in Shizukuishi a couple of days ago. Pretty impressive!
The Seiko 5 in Video is the same one i have for many years and still works. Grand seiko dial just looks amazing.
Seiko is my favorite watch brand. Very iconic and they have something for everyone.
It's not a thousand percent more, it's a hundred thousand percent more. Or a thousand times more. Take your pick.
The difference isn’t 1,000 per cent. It’s 100,000 per cent. 1,000% of 100 is 1,000.
Description is very lyrical. Impressed.
I'am guy who prefers practical usefulness over fancy things you are afraid to wear/use .) So I have one Seiko5 Automatic and two Casio Quartz. One analog dial only second one combi of display and analog dial. All stainless, durable and perfectly usable for daily carry.
6:36 is the craziest macro shot of a watch I’ve ever seen
I want both of them. My luxury watch is a GS quartz movement 9F85 and it in itself would compliment each of these beauties.
With my recent purchase of the SNXS79 I now have added my 3rd "under $500" watch on the recommendation of Watch finder. The is a handsome watch, well worth the $150 retail price.
What are your other two?
1:32, I presume is supposed to be "older than Rolex" or something?
Absolutely. Watch some more of his videos.
Say what u may but 4R36 rules this turf... Absolutely in love with that movement... ❤❤
The SBGD001 is the GS that got me into GS. After holding it in the flesh during a HODINKEE NYC event, I found an SBGA125 for my wrist and never looked back.
You know, you've got an exceptionally well made watch, when the macro shots still look like a perfect 3D render.
Diamond dust, magnets and platinum? Come on! Gotta '72 Seiko 5, and I feel fine!
The green coloured days indicator is so elegant. It made the $100 has a character.
I think it is only green on SAT
That GS is simply breathtaking. For all the hate that's lumped on the Spring Drive and all the Rolex fanboys that come back with 'the fit and finish on my datejust is soo much better than that GS' , Grand Seiko truly produces some of the most beautiful and emotion evoking watches in the world. (and that seiko 5 for $100 bucks is a heckuva deal!)
Honestly the finishing on GS is better than Rolex. The only thing Rolex fan boys can really claim as superior is the bracelet.
@@A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 Rolex’s look better and personally the movements look cooler too. For the price of a GS you could just save up a lil extra and get a used ALS watch which is far better
@@GODOFLIQUOR wrong
@@GODOFLIQUOR This is obviously opinion but I really couldn't justify picking a Rolex over a spring drive. The spring drive is a more technologically advanced movement as is. I never really thought of buying a Rolex because of its movements, which are fairly simple as far was luxury watches go. The Rolex 3000 series movements are what going on to 30 years old now? I figure if you buy a Rolex its because its a Rolex, and that's good enough.
I'm not going to say one company is better than the other, just that as far as movements are concerned I'd pick GS over Rolex. Opinion of course. As for finishing it would really depend on which models you compare between the two companies.
@@GODOFLIQUOR Better? No chance.
Honestly that’s the biggest rip off I’ve seen so far, 100k for a little bit of finishing? And people will blindly defend them too smh
The only flaw I could find was at 10:10, where there’s a dimple in the flat of the blue screw. 😅
Great video as always! I would love to see how a "designer watch", such as something from Louis Vuitton, would hold up to scrutiny. Ppl tend to stick up their noses at them, and I've never seen one on a YT channel, I'm curious if they are all that bad
Its not necessarily that they are complete garbage. Its more that usually you are getting a cheap quartz watch thats really worth maybe $50 but paying much more due to the name on it. I know many fashion watches are available unbranded on Aliexpress for much less. There are some exceptions with higher end brands having swiss made watches with decent quartz movements but youre still paying more for the brand and usually they are just plain ugly
Louis Vuitton watches are definitely not crappy “brand” watches. They actually have in-house movements and a degree of innovation.
I love seiko and one day I would love the GS, top review thank you 🤙🏻
It’s actually a difference of 100,000 percent.
I've had my Seiko SSA421J1 for about a month now and I couldn't be happier. My first dresswatch which looks a million quid for under £600,-
Can’t call a spring drive a quartz
Wooo! I throw my Rolex in a spaghetti bowl for that!
The timeliness of this video on the trail of the MoonSwatch release makes me think that the Omega x Swatch collab is their solution to "how to be Seiko without being Seiko?". For people who are baffled by MoonSwatch, they should really watch this to realise Seiko did it first and they did it best.
I got the snkl23, and its definitely worth the hype, everything seems so perfect.
snxs77 is in my collection, which collection contains 12 watches and the largest one in my collection is 8,000 euros, the cheapest is 100 euros, the most accurate is what costs 100 euros SNXS77
I tell you one thing. Between this craze and “The Adam Project movie”… I want a speedmaster.. a real one.. I won’t get one any time soon.. but the desire is there
1:30 Seiko - a watchmaker older than Seiko
The cheaper watch is the same one I wore in high school 50 years ago. Incidentally, it was purchased in Vietnam during the Vietnam War by my father.
The price difference is 1,000 times, so 100,000%
I also have a Seiko watch it's a Seiko 5 21 automatic jewels
I'll take a Seiko over any Swiss watch anytime!
Any?
My entire collection has one major rule - no Swiss. And I’m having a blast! Check out Knot Design!
Have an omega AT that's had a major overhaul after seven years, water and salt, with 30% of it placed in a bag, and it now keeps excellent time. I'm always thinking Sieko though, maybe I take alook at the GS 36k as I find the coax a bit "slow"
Seiko 5 SNXS 79 affordable but high class beautiful watch.
The Grand Seiko is so well made it doesn't look real close up, looks like CGI.
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Did Seiko discontinue the Seiko 5 series? I've looked at their website and couldn't find it. Do I have to get a pre-owned Seiko 5?
Thank you. We need a palate cleanser after all this talk of plastic quartz watches for $300. A legit automatic watch for $100. Stunning craftsmanship and ATD that makes the so-called Holy Trinity say “ちくしょ！” Cheers for a technical and artistic video that shows quality on all levels.
SEIKO IS GREAT ALTERNATIVE OF SWISS MADE MECHANICAL WATCH. I HAVE ONE SPRD61K. I LOVE IT
0:28 I think you meant 100,000%
he got it wrong the second time. lol...
Love to hear the old music back! The new one just didn't give your voice the same gravitas...
I want a SNXS79 so badly because it is just what it is.
Let’s just be honest, best watch company in the world. I’ve been amazed by Japanese carpenter for years, just saw this. Apparently watch engineering is something they do as well.
(One thousand) 1000 precent of 100€ is 1000€. 1000 times 100€ is correct.
with all the other very similar Seiko models do you think this is the best option at this price?
do you think it's too high?
1:28 talking about the Seiko 5 "from a watchmaker older than Seiko". What am I missing?
I just got shipping info from DHL for my SBGE205, and I’m beyond chuffed!
I’m no Rhodes scholar, but isn’t 1000% x $100 only $1,000?
The most accurate watch is on my smartphone screen.