Building a Battery Storage and System Room inside the garage (not a crane!)
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- So, in the next stage of transforming the Off-Grid Garage, I'm starting to build up the wall-framing inside the garage. This gives me already a pretty good understanding of the size of this room. I'm more than excited!
Building such a dry wall is all very straight forward, but I have to say, this laser-level is... next level. It makes it so much easier lining up the top and floor tracks and everything is just straight and perfect.
The door is quite a mystery for me as I'm not used to such basic door frames and design. I know prefabricated door frames which already come with architraves attached to the jamb and just click into each other. So, there is a bit of work involved to get this into position...
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No is not boring!!!! we learn a lot Andy, Thanks!!! (from Portugal)
Oh, great, thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated.
Andy, you are the Geilschte
Thank you Kurt😄
Great work ,Andy. Don´t forget the isolation between the boards...
Andy not boring at all. It's very interesting and entertaining.
I always watch a couple of Andy's videos to get motivated to work on my battery project.. All I have left is to power up and program the 2 controllers then reprogram my 2 solar charge controllers and 2 Outback Radian inverters and then switch out the cables disconnecting the lead acid batteries and connecting the LiFePo4 30kw stack..
Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep them coming!
Superbe idée ANDY’s , j’ai hâte de voir le résultat de cette ROOM POWER ! Et je suis enfin à jour pour les vidéos ! Tu te rends compte que je te suis depuis l’ouverture de la chaine ! ☺🤗👍
Whatever that means, thank you.
Did I win the not a prize for guessing it would be a battery room/studio?
That green laser is amazing. I bought the crappy 1D red laser for $99 from Bunnings. It's good for about 4m outdoors, during an eclipse.
Your videos are like a trip inside your conscious stream. Reminds me of the movie being John Malkovich. Thank you for sharing this part of your life with us.
I had a look at the bunnings gear as well but thought this one is more suitable. And it is working great!
Thanks for your ongoing support, Andrew!
(no prices on the channel any more. It attracts scammers)
Andy I’m sure you could get people watching Paint 🎨 Dry ! Oh that be three episodes away hahaha . Build it and they will watch 👍👍
I figured you'd move your workbench and keep expanding the "Powerwall" along the full length of the garage.
Not even I need that much power...
very nice safety shoes Andy 😂
I enjoy these kinds of projects. it's all a part of ess/offgrid . As can be read in the comments, many also want to see the construction. I don't think you can make an boring video. Even watching the paint dry on the water tank was amusing. Thanks for this one, cant wait on the next. prost.
Thanks a lot for your feedback and kind words... More video to come then😄
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Übrigens sind meine EVE-Zellen heute angekommen. so geil . 16 LF280k Sie wurden am schnellsten geliefert. Die MB31 würde zu lange dauern. Der Sommer ist hier fast vorbei. Also testen wir mit diesem. Vielen Dank für deine Inspiration und klare Erklärung. Grüße Sebastian
Made me chuckle, I think the same thing when I see a Made in USA label
Yeah, there is almost nothing made here in the country. Most comes from China.
That was my guess 😂 you build an own room for your battery empire!
With a bed inside🤭
Neiiiiinnnnn - der Rasenmäher ist weg - geht garnicht;-) Nice work!
Wonderful ninety thousand 😊
I'm impressed with your knowledge on the top track (Leaving room for movement and not screwing into the top of the studs) This is exactly the proper way to do it! Nice work!
When we used to do those we would make the normal box top and add another on its back so the whole top floated as one unit and not just the individual studs.. In his application adding horizontal blocking to tie the studs together near the top and in the middle of a wall that is taller than 2 meters if he is just using drywall would be a good idea.. If he uses plywood then the plywood sheeting becomes the main structural component that stiffens and links the metal studs.. I have seen far too many office walls that get bumped hard and all of a sudden you have 20 drywall screw dimples because the wall flexed because drywall is not a structural component..
Thanks Dan. I watched a video or two beforehand. Just missed the one for the outside corner😄
Andy you came such a long way.
All these video's.
All that time to spend it with us.
See what you al have now
So amazing.
Still my favorite show.
You give me the insperation to build battery's on my one end the digitale mermaid gives me the inspiration to convert my boat to electric
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thank you very much for your feedback.
Oh, an electric boat... my wife wants one. It's on my list of projects when everything else is done😄
Hi andy i love your channel i have learn a lot watching from South Africa
Not boring Andy, I want to see it from start to finish.;
You probably will! Thank you.
@@OffGridGarageAustralia NICE
Looking great Andy once you get split AC unit up on the stud work out the way it will be the 'go to' room in the Summer heat. Did you know you lose approx 250 cycles for every deg C above 25 the batteries are subjected too? So, if your batts regularly stay at 45 C you lose 5,000 cycles which is insane, it's all in the spec sheet. I will be interested to hear the temp difference of your batts this Summer compared to last.
@@ricardophelps6323 which spec sheet is this you refer to?
@@vastirvision EVE LF280K.pdf
@@vastirvision EVE LF280K dated June 2023 Page 3, Pt 3.15 (I tried posting link but YT deletes it)
Thank you. My batteries don't stay at 45°. I maybe hit 40° for a brief moment for 10 days during summer. Everything else is under that temperature. I'm not too fussed about losing some cycles. The cells are rated for 55°C, so I'm far under that.
But yeah, AC will be nice in summer for sure!
In 6 days +600. Looks like very good ✌
It moves so quick, unbelievable.
Now that you've made all this wall space, you need to buy back all the wall-mount battery packs you sold. 😂
Hahaha, I actually only have one wall mount battery. It's with Peter atm for testing.
The other ones where more vertical batteries on wheels. It would be a heavy load for these walls.
Andy's king of the swingers, bet there is a pineapple somewhere!
Hahaha, not yet😆
I quite enjoyed your renos to the garage…❤
Oh, thanks a lot Joe!
Cool crane!!
But it's not... it's not a...
Always nice to watch your videos and work progress 👍 And also good source for useful ideas, keep going and we always be there with you
Die Stahlrahmen sind für die Tür.
Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland
Not sure what that means...
Bombenstabil !!! 🐸🐸🐸🐸🐸
I had 100 kWh yesterday, today i expect them too 😃
Great video, and useful, some of us might be doing the same thing or similar.
So thank you.
You've got my favourite safety boots mate 😁😁
I have to agree with ours, its not boring Andy, we all have to decide on where our Inverters and batteries are to be located, so it is very relevant to the channel. I am right now designing our new extensions, which will include the Inverter and battery room, at the moment they all in the loft, not ideal!! Cheers Ken
smiles ... forgot the roller door ... DOH !!
Never boring
OK, thanks.
Andy, I thought it was only a matter of time you would build a battery room, just got mine part finished enough for our NSW winter in the Blue Mountains, since then my batteries haven't been under about 12 degs C instead of minus 4 of 5 degs at times, mine is build out of steel frame from bunnings and lined with villaboard and tiles up to 1.2 metres high for added fireproofing and installation batts in both walls and ceilings.
Awesome as always 👍👍
90K subs well done Andy , you are the hope of the team. You could of done with Andy 2 in this video.
@hal3137 I think the Andy2 videos probably take twice as long to record, with the wardrobe, makeup, and camera moves. Andy2 is better as a phantom that works when Andy Prime is sleeping or enjoying a SPAT (or both? Seems very German to combine them. More efficient.)
Andy2 is a pain in the a...! From a camera perspective of course. Love that guy. He's coming back at some stage
Congratulations on nearing the big 100!
10:05 AC
15:35 100K before Equinox (10 weeks) !
Nah, I'm not moving that fast... beginning of next year is my guess...
I hope the garage does not lose its charm due to the renovation
There is a victron ev charging station hiding in your garage 😂
I spotted that as well.
I am wondering if Andy is going to get another Tesla and be parking it inside the Off Grid Garage then experiment with power sharing from the EV to his home grid??
That's why he reinforced the wall. He hangs the second Tesla on the Wall. 😀
If he gets a Cyber Truck I am unsubscribing 😂😂😂
We just got a second EV so the Victron station will go into the car port for me to charge.
I would have used PIR plates sandwiched between the studs instead. That would have kept cool in and heat out.
Es muss ja weiter gehen 😂 sehr schön dich so glücklich beim bauen zu sehen! Weiter so! Und die 100k knackst du auch bald. Halte ein Platz für den CZcams PlayButton bereit im PV Raum!!! =) (mit Beleuchtung!!!)
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Instead of cutting studs short to allow for movement, I would have cut them tight and attached them securely to strengthen structure and prevent movement, but I never did much with metal framing, mostly wood and laminate.
Awesome !!!!
Thank you.
Lets have a Meet up when you get to 100k, come on, you're a Rockstar plus it would be fun to meet other Australian followers.
Think about it.🎉
A good excuse to teach others how to calibrate a Spat in person.
If you first put a chipboard (OSB) on the inside of your room and then put the plasterboard on top, you will have a very stable wall where you can screw things anywhere. In Germany, this is often done in kitchens where wall cabinets are installed.
if you hanging stuff on the wall use plywood or cement board must better than plasterboard
I was going to say that as well, use plywood, then drywall, makes it super easy to screw stuff to the wall.
It all will make sense eventually. Plywood would not be suitable for my situation.
Heya only 2 more vlog and your done with your hybrid off grid battery room
Oh, man, you have no idea how much more work that is. To seal up all the gaps to the outside will be already insane!
TY 👍🏻
W
Awesome videos as usual. Boss I was wondering if an isolated "battery" room would have been a better upgrade option? Lifepo4 🔥 from your collection of lithium in Kg is huge. Have your battery shed full isolated from the rest of the house. And no its not boring. For me, you give me the true pix of running on lifepo4. 2x Thumps ups Boss
Hey Andy, if you exclude the solar, how many days can you live on the power of all the batteries you have?
Probably a week with no power coming in. Longer when I leave hot water off and shower cold😄
Will you be insulating the ceiling again since the space is going to be conditioned?
There are solar panels above... What is your guess?
Laser, laser, laser! Now I want one, but I wonder if red would be a little less risky than green for repeated accidental exposure of the eyes.
Hello Andy from cloudy Vancouver, Washington...although today it is 103℉! I've learned a shit ton (standard Imperial unit of measure) here on your channel: DIY batteries, good BMS, bad BMS, busbars, and of course how to turn my Raspy into a functional display for my Victron system. But there is something I've been trying to figure out lately, and the proper answer seems elusive: I'm wondering what your stance is on the implementation of Class T fuses in DIY battery builds? In what type of system/scenario might you consider a Class T fuse to be a sensible and necessary design component?
It seems to me that in some cases it is overkill, and not likely to be necessary. I see Victron now has a Class T Lynx Power In/Distributor...so perhaps there is some trend toward the use of this fuse. Also I recently ordered an aerosol fire extinguisher pod from Ali which is supposed to fully extinguish an electrical fire when properly installed, and I will be installing this in the battery compartment. Since I am going to run an 8s2p config for my battery, I would most likely be using 1 Class T on each side of the battery bank.
(My build is a ~13kWh 25.6V 230Ah Battery consisting of (16) 230aH CALB cells + 2x JBD AP21S004 v.1.2 BMS. CALB factory spec sheet states around 245aH actual cell capacity although I have yet to confirm this). Cheers Andy, and thank you very much for creating an environment in which the education is indistinguishable from the entertainment!
Thanks so much for your kind words and feedback. This made my day (even it is still morning here).
A Class T fuse is not a bad thing and due to its high current breaking capacity especially suitable for large DC currents. However, you will still need a switch for your battery bank to disconnect it as well which can withstand high DC currents. I'm sure this will be a requirement for most countries.
So, here is my thinking of using a DC breaker instead which combines both requirements. The NOARK, I'm using have 25kA breaking capacity and are therefore even higher rated than a Class T fuse. And I can turn off the circuit easily for maintenance or fault finding.
There is of course the space requirements for such a breaker and it is not the go-to solution for all situations. But with the right planning and system design, I would always prefer a breaker.
Now you can have some mounting points inside and outside the room for your camera.
Just like Jane Goodall I have studied CZcams solar install evolution. You seem to follow the same evolutionary pattern. Everyone ends up with all blue parts on the wall. Should I just skip the non-blue parts? 🤔
Yes.
Victron is expensive gear but it is awesome and integrates well. Free remote control and monitoring included.
lol ... I think you exceeded your towball limit.
Hahaha, not quite...😆
Ooh, micro-inverters for the pool fence?!
Pool fence is only temporary during winter month and will go again in August at some stage. By then, I will have enough solar again.
You didn't say why you were building the enclosure. Is it code ?
Thanks
Adding an air conditioner on one wall... To keep the equipment cool in summer. In previous videos he has issues running the inverter at capacity due to over heating cut-out.
As I have the batteries already in a separate building, away from the house, the requirements would be enough. I just like to have the electrical stuff separated from the rest of the garage activities. It is just cleaner and more organised. And, yeah, it will get an AC unit as well...
Send people your way when they have questions.
U have so many awesome videos and I've been watching as many as I can the last two years. But I have to know which diy battery box do you like the best
Is the door broad enough for you crane?
🐸🐸🐸
Thank you🥈
@@OffGridGarageAustralia Welcome
Moin 👍👍👌
Moin Andi!
I am wiring up a big off grid portable tri axel trailer mounted solar system 25k worth ..comprising 0f 12x 300w panels on A frame its pro built kit comes unwired ,has victron gear and pyltech 48v rack battery's .i just got sent the wired diagram . its going from gympie to south Australia along with tiny home and trailer deck ,everything must be transportable for bush fires even the deck lol , wish me luck lol
Any why not building another "Garage to the Garage" ? Is it not getting to small ? Space for new Solar included too ?
This is the middle building of three buildings already We've got 5 car spaces already and there is no way to move the electrical equipment to a new location, not to mention to another building.
Thanks Andy, insulation in the walls ? 90k well done 👍
Yes, insulation all around. Except the roller door maybe...
Thanks for all your support, Wayne. Much appreciated.
@OffGridGarageAustralia they make garage door insulation kits that are just shinny bunble wrap (radiant barrier) and double stick tape. Might be a quick and dirty solution 🤔
@@DavidBTB for roller doors? How would that work when you open the door?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia google BlueTex Insulation.
@OffGridGarageAustralia It's only about 2mm thick and it's stuck to the back of the door with double sided tape or screws with washers.
Will the crane fit through the door or are you gone go through the gravel outside opening the garage door?
The garage door will be sealed off and won't be usable any more. Yeah, it will fit through the door. Alternatively, I can just wheel the batteries out of the room if I need to re-stack them. Easy...
NO MORE WALL BULDING!
Is this per regulation or is it by your feelings?
Both.
andy, you dont have OCD, you are just from Germany.
will the crane fit thru the door ?... with swing space ?..
@mikedurham4448 I don't think it needs to. He stacks the batteries in the main area and rolls them to the corner already.
You forget about the outside garage door which is as wide as the new room and rolls up all the way if needed.
Yes, crane does fit inside the garage and I can wheel them out as well, so all good!
Andy, maybe you've answered this in the past? Why do you tell us about the daily weather in Amps instead of Watts?
Can't find 4D-Laser-Level in tools section
Hi
Again 🥇
Me I see 90.2 as of this moment. 😊
I need Andy2 to swap out the numbers...😄
@@OffGridGarageAustralia I am looking forward to seeing 100k. Soon.
Can you ad the door plus frame up like this? In Europe, the door would have a partial overlap with the frame. Or is this a swing door?
Passt dein Kran durch die Tür?
Und wo ist das Fenster?
@HolWol24 Ich denke nicht das es wichtig ist. Die Baterien sind alle auf Rader. (Sorry my German socks, but I thought I'd try 😀 )
Yes, it all fits through the door, easily. Even the crane will fit.
Those plasterboards are quite expensive, here at Hornbach they're 12 euros for a 12,5mm thick plate with the same dimensions. Are building materials pricier on the overall in Australia?
1mm good enough for farm use.
Exactly!
Morning Andy. You always say: so and so many AMPS outside......My app shows me Kw/h ? On my Energy- Bill is Kw/h aswell. Is this a victron thing ? In wich case i need the AMPs shown on my display ? cheers Kurt
It’s a different view but also good to learn something
But i have a question about something else a BMS..
If i look on Ali expres i see jkbms but also jikong and that’s confusing me, is that 1 company or 2 different ones😔
BOO.
I would really like to know how many kWh of storage you have in your garage?🤔
So please tell me an your Community the total capacity in detail Andy...😅
First 😂
Yeah, third first😄🥉
optimizers ?!
for?
@@OffGridGarageAustralia optimizing Solar output with shadows, thought was your next project
@@mastergool No, I would not use optimizers at all. They only optimize the profit of the manufacturer of such devices.
There is only one case when they work a tiny bit better than without: panels in the same string pointing in different directions.
Hey Andy - CAUTION!
better not film into the laser light - it can quickly destroy your camera Sensor!
OK
Please help me a bit. Not directly related to this video. I need to get in touch with JKBMS support and it's broken on their site and they are not answering a direct email. How do I get in touch with them? They sent me the balancing cables that do not match the schematic and I am afraid to risk turning it on
Like# 126? a surprise release! The Cherry Picker!
my brat just finished cooking and "bombfest" just blurted out naturally and then I laughed at myself
why is HomeDepot painted red???
Great video, but I'm left wondering "why?"
Keep the batteries and inverters cooler, he's said it's going to be air conditioned.
Summer is coming. It's easier to insulate and cool a smaller room to a temperature that is just right for the equipment.
- Keeping the batteries and electrical equipment separated from the rest of the garage gear
- Regulations
- cooling in summer
- my OCD
Galvanized square steel. Where is the eco friendly wood
Why?
Why not?
A trailer hitch on a Tesla sedan is getting into High Tech Hillbilly territory Andy, or is this normal for the Aussies??
What? The hitch is approved for this car and car can tow. Man it can tow... hahaha!
Hi Andy Had to get your attention because your endorsing the Hankzor BMS Store.
I have had a bad experience with them. From your infamous NEEEEY video's, I learned I don't have version 4.0 which I ordered because of missing new app. features you showed all of us.
I purchased two units, each at a different time, turns out they both are version 3.2.
I want to share with you and everyone the truth about the store including the "off grid garage" youtube channel. I asked the Hankzor store repeatedly about this, but keep getting the run around why the missing features in the app. They said v4.0 were sent. I have now leaned they lied.
Hello sunny HOT …
Hi mate i like to ask do you buy all this batterys your self or is some of it donated
i know it is not my business, i know you are clever but would you do this all if you can do it also
with one battery, i have 10 batterys from 50A x 50 V i do not need a crane to lift it to the second floor
but using 200 A battery i sure have to hire a crane i see it like this you can go shopping with a semitruck
oe just use the familie car, by the way witch country you use to call home germany? i ask this because
i known a guy named andy in langefeldyou look like him and have about the same age but sure there are
manywith the name andy do not bother go on with what you are doing i like it a lot
regards;Henk
Nen richtiger Akkupapa sorgt halt dafür das es seine Babies schön kühl haben.
would chain mesh walls mean it would breathe better while still secured ? hmmm
Ahhh, it's not so much about security. but we will have an AC as well, so...
yeap it was boring... i forgot about how boring it was while watching until end
Thanks for watching!
Consider investing in a pair of steel-capped footwear - unless you have some spare toes hidden away!
Andy your footwear is perfect.