How to Install Stone to Makeover Your Fireplace - OurHouse DIY
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- I'm taking remnants of natural stone that were normally thrown out as scraps and covering the entire wall around my gas fireplace. These ledger panels are just pieces of small stone that have been glued together to make repeating shapes that can easily be applied with very little skill and effort. Take a boring wall around your fireplace and make it a focal point. This is a quick and easy makeover for your family room. Thanks for watching, subscribing, and sharing!
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You make it look so simple!!! Love this idea! Thanks for a video that left me feeling like I could "do this!"
Ive done two fireplaces with faux stone. One was 26' high. It is really simple. Just make sure you get the right mortar/thinset and you have the right sub-wall prep behind it to have a strong hold.
Mastic glue on a fireplace is a mistake. Install CBU (concrete board) and thinset, burning a notched 1/4" scratch coat first, and then a second notched coat to bed the stone. Stone of any kind is heavy. It needs the CBU properly anchored into the wall for support. Fireplaces create temperature variables on the wall. The CBU insulates the stone from the wood/sheetrock wall behind it, and ensures the bond between the stone and CBU/concrete board remains secure, to keep stone from popping off the wall. I've seen the mastic used on the HGTV type DIY shows, and unless you're applying very thin/light tiles to a sheetrock wall, the long term results may not be good.
Can you put ledger stone panels right on a painted drywall wall if you're only stoning 8 feet up? Or do I need to install something like cement board? What would be the cheapest, yet efficient material to use if I have to put something on the drywall wall?
You beat me to it ! I used to do stone masonry and what he did is a horrible idea
@@nowiknowhy installing heavy stone directly on painted drywall like this isn't a great idea. Cement board is cheap, easy to install, and much better insurance IMO.
I've been thinking of making an accent wall with tile. This looks simple. Thanks for showing the tool you use to cut the pieces too. That helps alot!
I have a very small fireplace, so this is perfect for my needs. Thank you!
Great job! You have inspired me to DIY my fireplace
Heats my whole downstairs and my upstairs hallway with no problem. Thermostat works great...beautiful flame. Quiet and easy to install
oh wow!! This is stunning!! What an awesome upgrade you did yourself AND saved money doing it! Great video too!
+skababy69 Thanks a ton! It made a big difference in the room and its easy.
So beautiful! Came out nice. 😊
What a great job you did on your fireplace! Thanks for sharing!
+femineity Thank you!
Beautiful work, man.
I searched for truly helpful videos on this topic for a while and everything had way too much fluff or it was over complicating it. This video is the best explanation I've ever seen. Thank you
Masterful work!!! Great video.
Good job dude .. I'm about to do one wall on my house thanks for the idea
Nicely done. Huge improvement
Well explained and easy to understand and follow. Thanks for giving this amateur some confidence to move ahead on his own, and to hopefully save some money. Thanks!
And it looks great btw!
+mrodgers24 Thanks so much. Hope your project turns out great!
That’s some amazing work puts value to ur place indeed
Looks great, Room has a much warmer feeling. Good job..
+Yo Yokum Thanks so much!
Ok makes sense thank you for your reply .looks great;!
Looks Great!
I appreciate the great information. I started doing my fireplace today and it's looking great. Many thanks to you, Sir. Have a great day!
Huge improvement. Great job!
Thanks Paul! Very much appreciated.
Well done. Looks awesome!!
+clffthmps Thanks
Nice job! looks great!
Fabulous Job!! It looks beautiful.......thanks for sharing!
+Debbie Lee Thanks a ton!
beautiful work, thanks for the video, I'm ready to get started on mines.
+Tony Diaz Thanks a lot! It is worth it.
Great Job man! Beautiful work!
+Stoic Observer Thanks so much
great vid! Thanks for the tips
Yalls fireplace looks amazing! Ive been needing/wanting to do mine for years. You made it look easy! 😃
+JessThiele Awww thank you. It IS easy.
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fantastic video. extremely easy to follow. this will be my next project. thanks a ton!
+BrianP No problem Brian! Thanks for watching.
wow!!! looks good!!
Looks beautiful.
+Terri Johnson Thank you! Looking at it now.
Very nicely done. Thanks for the info.
+Jason Bryant Thanks a ton!
This looks great.
+Jesse Parris Thanks a bunch!
A+, Awesome job!
+rsleitner Thanks a bunch!
Awesome job.
Sweet job ! Thanks
+JOGO Thank you!
Dude that looks slamming!!! Comments crack me up and all the dislikes! I bet the dislikes are the folks that don’t have the creative touch like you!! Great job!!
Thanks a ton!
great job nice on wall
+mike a Thank you!
Awesome job. Your wife should be proud.
Thank you for the video, very educational.
Nicely done
+screwdin Thank you!
excelent job mi friend,you inspired me to do mine
Thank you sir! Good luck to you.
My wall is huge and my wife have the same concern common in womans
Thanks, I'm ready to tackle mine. If you did it over again, would you leave it 2-3 ft short of the ceiling? Big chunky mantle would have looked perfect with all the stone.
Nice job
Don't use Mastic! It is not heat rated. It will smell when it gets hot and can fall off! You use thinset around a fireplace. Read your fireplace install manual before doing anything around your fireplace. Make sure you are following the clearances and using the right materials on and around it!
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I want to install ledger stone over brick around my wood fireplace; not gas
One question please
1- the mastic is not fire rated as you mentioned
Can I first apply grout scratch coat first then the ledger stone or it won’t stick
How hot are your walls getting?! You may have bigger problems than mastic...
thank you
How cute! I mean the fireplace is nice but the cute little kitty ears on the couch.
+miekefrishman LOL thanks!
I would like to thank you for this awesome video , I been searching video and every single video I have seen have seen it said u need to put hardibacker board and make seem so complicated , but your video keep easy and afford by using a grinder not a tile table saw that I can't afford to buy one , so thank you again good video
+Francisco Torres Thanks very much for the kind words. That's exactly what I hoped to accomplish with this video. To show that it is simple and doesn't have to be expensive. Thanks for watching!
Do you mind if you email me to ask you a couple of question if it possible , franciscotorres1225@yahoo.com
I'm doing mine tomorrow, dreading doing the top that is angled just like yours
+pkn 187 You can pull it off! Just take your time.
nice job!
+JK Hunter Thank you
Nice!
+speddy0033 Thank you
Nice work . I'm the contractor myself and I install the stone exactly same way as you. Some people believe that plywood must be installed first even on small area . I install plywood only if is project higher then 8 foot
+delija67717 Thanks! Yeah its really not hard and doesn't have to be over complicated. Its designed for simple installation that homeowners can handle.
Thank you
+peaceispeace1 Thank you!
My wife and I are looking at doing the same thing to ours but was worried they might fall from the weight . we didn't think about just doing a couple of rows and letting it set up . Thanks for the video
+Dwayne Cooper No problem guys! Good luck!
Thanks for putting this together - I can't believe you wife asked you if you knew what you were doing - LOL
+BigIdeasLittleTime Right? Lol, she always does.
Love this. Very detailed thanks. Any suggestions how to remove a granite fireplace/surround by yourself
The granite is usually 3 small pieces and generally just stuck to the sheetrock. It can be popped off. It'll likely leave some sheet rock damage, but that can be patched and covered with the new stone.
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Thank you for sharing! I'm thinking of overlaying an old brick fireplace with this. Would the same adhesive / process be used with brick? Thanks!
+ODVenture Yes as long as the brick are in place well and not crumbling. Thanks for watching!
No! Mastic will not work with brick. You need to use thinset.
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+elenakurus2010 Thanks!
Looks great man how has it held up since u completed ? Can I use the right over the existing wall with paint ?
I did and it has held up with zero issues. We have moved, but it lasted for years and still is.
Great video and very helpful! Would the same process work for faux stone? I am afraid of putting too much weight with real stone on the wall, plus we want a TV hanging on the wall. I love the look though.
+Maya Glazer Sometimes the synthetic stone can weigh the same or more than these thin veneer stones. If you have any doubts, its best to Google the manufacturers recommendations.
Installing veneer over existing marble fireplace surround
great video. I'm getting ready to install a kozy heat z42. I'm wanting to end up with stone like you did. Should my sheetrock/backer board be flush with the front of fireplace? Also is there something needed around the fireplace at the front to make an airtight seal? like caulking between stone and fireplace front faceplate?
+Tom Black All fireplaces from electric to gas to wood burning will have a thorough installation manual included. Each one is going to call for slightly different setups but most of the setups are all the same. Each unit will be ready to accept any acceptable finish wall you choose as long as it meets the clearances to combustibles. Sealing is only necessary as it relates to venting if its a vented set. As far as setting it flush or not, that will be determined by thickness of your material and your own preferences.
nice
+Isidro Lopez Thank you!
I'm thinking of doing the same for my fireplace but I'm not a fan of the flat wall. I'm thinking of framing the fireplace section to come out 8 inches or so all the way up to the ceiling and have a hearth as well. I think the 3-D look would be sharp.
+aSingleDallasGuy Completely agree. If you can build a bump out with 6 to 8 inch returns, it makes it look much more substantial.
Great video i just bought some ms int. Stone ledger panels from Home Depot, i just noticed your panels seem smaller than tyhe 24"×6" they were offering. Is that why you were able to use mastic instead of the large tile thinset?
Well not necessarily. I have used the 24x6 before with mastic. I have used panels with construction adhesive also. It really depends on what shape the wall is in and how thick the stone is. Ultimately, the stones can bear straight down on each other to an extent. The adhesive doesn't have to support the full weight, it just has to be strong enough and have a good enough bond to keep it from falling forward.
Install looks great. I wouldn’t use mastic to hold this type of heavy stone. I work for a tile and stone company and we sell Mapei installation products, the same brand as the Type 1 mastic you used. We receive a ton of training using installation products and I would recommend Ultraflex LFT or the Kerabond/Keralastic system from Mapei. I’d hate for a piece of that stone to fall on someone. The fireplace looks great.
Thanks for that info! I get those questions all the time. I'm no expert, so I can only speak from my experience. Construction adhesive works well also.
Based on the shape/notch of the individual stones tiles, it would seem that you should start at the right side and then work to the left.
+nhojcam Either is fine. For me, I had a straighter plumb line on the left side where the sheetrock met up.
that is a huge improvement.
+bgregg55 Thanks a bunch! We think so.
Excellent video and very kind of you to answer so many questions. Here's one more, can I use mastic or construction adhesive to attach these panels to plywood?
+jmarkov1985 Short answer is yes. The only issue to consider is if the wood has any sort of treatment or paint. If it is raw wood, you're good.
I tried a test piece with the PL adhesive. I couldn't get it off. Thanks for your help. I think it will work just fine.
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I would install 1/4" or 1/2" Hardibacker on top of drywall first and do your stone over👍
Very nice. DO you know if that product has corner pieces. We need to go around existing brick.
+frttrf Not at Lowes. Amazon has a great selection and most offer corners.
I'm curious, after stoning, and if the fire box needs to be replaced,,how do you do that? Cut the stone, replace the box, and figure out how to stain the new stone to match the old stone? I'm asking bc the,house I'm thinking about,buying has a stone fire place surrounding the wood burning fire box, I know I'm going to have to replace it, and the chimney is not out back.
Excellent video man! Thanks for making these!
How do bevel cut your stone to get it to fit flush on the edges of your 45 degree wall? My fireplace is on an angled wall too so I'm running into that same issue.
+Aaron Hewitt Thanks so Much Aaron. Since I wanted it to be flush, the back cutting had to be done and its not as difficult as you'd think. If its a 45 degree angle or at least close, the simplest way is to hold your speed square up to the back of the stone and mark a 45 that way. Mark it on each end of the stone panel then draw a line connecting those two points. Then lay the stone flat and try to cut along that line at an angle from that line to the corner on the face of the stone. Its ok if its not perfect the first time. Its like a haircut. You can always remove more but you can't add it back. So get it close, then use the side of the blade to grind it to where you need it.
Makes sense. Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for the video. It looks easy and I'm willing to do this project this summer. Can I make corners from this stone?
The short answer is yes. However, there are a few things that might make you choose a different stone that had the premade corners. You would need to do some figuring and have some skill to cut the stone just so to create a corner. Also, the cut ends would show and look too clean compared to the body of the stone. There are so many ledger stones and suppliers out there, it just wouldn't be worth the time and effort. Check Amazon. They have a lot of choices.
Thanks for your reply. I thought so. My corners are not all right angles, some are 135 degrees. I'll try and let you know if I started this.
This turned out awesome! I've been wanting to do this to my fireplace, but it has tile on it right now... the same tile as our laundry room and bathroom floor. Do you think I could use that adhesive you used on top of that tile to stick the stone to it (like you used) without removing it?
Well, I don't have experience with that, but I do know that with tile on the floor, putting tile over it is fairly common. It requires a later of self leveling mud and a primer. That wouldn't work on a vertical surface because the mud is so runny. As much as you hate to hear it, I would demo the tile first and create a good surface to adhere the stone to.
OurHouse Thank you! :)
i am not familiar with the adhesive you used but tile adhesive is fine on bare sheetrock but probably will not bond to a painted surface. i did my wall with similar natural stone and i put wonderboard on the wall and used thinset instead of mastic
+Carmen Cristantiello It has been up for about 2 plus years now and still strong as ever. A primer isn't a bad idea.
I intend on using the veneer stone in between 2 doors in my home as well as my fire place. How do you hide your cut edge for that stone.
My cut edges ended against corners, so it wasn't a problem for me. If you have outside corners, most veneer stone you find has those corners available for purchasem
We just bought a house in AZ that’s just like yours except it’s not on an angle, and we like the tile around the firebox. We really want to do something to give it more definition, and I think this look would be great! If you did this project now, would you change anything?
I don't think I would. I would probably use construction adhesive instead of mastic so that I could avoid "experts" telling me it won't work. Lol.
What stone did you use? Brand and color would be great.
I liked this video, really appreciated putting the time to do this demo. How use this stones to make columns light post? also, what is it called to buy from Lawes? ... please respond .. thanks
+sidowsidow If you're going to be putting these stones on a light post, it would have to be a fairly wide light post. These panels are about 12 inches across. Also, there would have to be a suitable material to attach the stone to. I would recommend construction adhesive. Ask the associate at Lowes and let them know if it will be inside or outside.
Thank you sir ... do you know if this is kind feel Real Stone?
The stone on the wall has been up for about 4 years now? How is it holding up, with the mastic glue? Just wondering, as I am now attempting this same fireplace remodel in my home. Thanks for sharing this video.
We sold the house last year, but we stay in touch with the new homeowners. It's still perfect. I've had several people tell me mastic was a bad choice, and maybe if I did it again, it causes issues. But for this project, it has had zero problems.
Nice job!! Was the stone affordable? Thanks for the video!! subscribed!
+Celeste Carlon Thank you so much, but honestly this stone is so user friendly, its almost cheating. The stone I used came from Lowe's and was around $5 a square foot I believe. And the mastic I used to put it up with is premixed and about $20 a tub. I used a couple of tubs. Thanks for subscribing!
Where can buy that 'mastic' ? Your video is so nice and not complicated. Thnks for sharing
+joss dindo peralta Thanks so much. You can find it at Lowes or Home Depot. The container might have a different name on it, but ask someone in that department for mastic and they will know what you're looking for.
So I first remove the tile off my wall around fireplace? Then place the brick?
I reall;y like you video. I was thinking about tearing out the old fake rock around fireplace and installing gas and then building out a area using 2/4's and Sheetrock, then stoning over Sheetrock, like you did. Do you know if 2/4's will work or is that a fire hazard? Thanks
+David Shadden Good question. On wood burning inserts there is an area of clearance to combustibles so that you have to use metal studs, but on most gas inserts now you are ok to frame with wood. Federal law requires safety glass on vented gas logs. That might have something to do with it. That being said, the manual that comes with your gas logs and firebox will reference clearance to combustibles in 3 ways. Framing, finishing material, and mantels. Check your installation manual to make the determination on what materials to use.
I'm looking for the exact colors you put up. We want grays but can only find mostly browns at Lowe's unless we are willing to go with faux stone. Don't happen to know exactly what you got do you?
Either way.. great video.
+Chintan Patel If you look on Lowes web site, there will be 2 types of natural ledger stone. Some Lowe's stores only carry one or the other and sometimes both or neither, lol. You should be able to get your store to order it for you or place your order online.
Should be using thinset for stone, applied to wall and butter the back
Hi! I'm starting my own ledgestone project in the living room. The stone will go straight over drywall. I've read so much about whether it can go over drywall or whether it should be backer/concrete board, and whether mastic or thinset mortar should be used. There are SO many different answers!! Your way seems so simple!!! Can you tell me if you've ever had any problems since your install a couple years ago?? Any buckling? Mold? Were you afraid of the liquid in the Mastic absorbing/molding into the drywall? I'd really appreciate your advice!!
I have had zero issues. I have also done quite a few other fireplaces like this and have had no problems. I would say this though, construction adhesive like liquid nails is much faster, less messy, and will likely hold tighter.
Very nice. What do you think the total weight of the stone is? I have an 11' feature wall that I would like to do something like this but it would be on four sides.
I believe the best way to determine that would be to look online. No matter where youre getting your stone, it will give you a package weight and a square footage measurement per package. From that you can extrapolate the total weight you would be putting on the walls.
I want to add this exact rock on the wall where my bar stools are. Do I need to remove the texture to expose the Sheetrock?
I would. If you don't then youre basically bonding the stone to the texture.
If you were to add a mantle to this project would you install the mantle first and tile around it or install the mantle after the stone?
+617nikkic definitely mantel first.
How long time did you use on the whole wall?
Is it ok to apply directly to a painted wall? Is there a chance the paint could come off bringing all down?
I have applied stones to painted walls more than 2 dozen times and have not had any issues with that at all.
Thank you very much for this video. Well explained! I have a question. Does drywall is tough enough for theses stone panels? I've heard that we are not supposed to because of the weight of the stones. Is it true? I'm a bit confused.
+David Ladouceur Dupuis Synthetic stone is thick and sticks out much further from the wall usually, so I wouldn't use it strictly on drywall. But these are real stone and very thin in comparison. So most of the weight bears straight down. I've had zero issues. I have no problem saying applying these ledger panels directly to drywall is very much ok.
OurHouse Thank you so much!
Can you use this for a outside wall
Afters you put the 1st two rows up, how long does it take to dry before you start installing the rest of the rows?
Honestly I was able to keep laying without much pause.
Where did you buy the stone from?
Just wondering if you got slightly off level, what could you use as a shim?
+Anna Sharpe Little shards of the stone itself work great.
that's looking good man! who's wife wouldn't be proud of that?
+Tow Pirates Right? Lol thanks.