Hands On: Ford Lauches Tesla Supercharger Access | Here is What You Need To Know!
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2024
- Starting today, Ford says that eligible Mustang Mach-E and F-150 Lightning owners can request their free CCS to NACS adapter. The first deliveries are slated to begin shipping in March. Ford is also starting to roll out a software update that unlocks Tesla Supercharger support for Mach-E and Lightning vehicles.
“Today, Ford F-150 Lightning and Mustang Mach-E retail customers are the first of any non-Tesla automaker to gain access to Tesla Superchargers across the U.S. and Canada,” Ford says.
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I'm a Tesla model y owner but I think it's great that the network is opening up for all EVs
Model Y owner here and I agree.
Agreed. The whole reason I chose Tesla was because of dedicated charging infrastructure
Registered for my adapter! Looking forward to less charge anxiety.
How do I register
As I recall, V3 chargers don't share charging current with other stalls so it should charge at full power. Also, welcome to Tesla Supercharging.
The stalls themselves do not share power like V2s, however, they load balance with 3 others on the same charging cabinet. That's the genius of Tesla. Since the max 250kw is only for a short time and at low SoC, for them to be derated, 4 different EVs capable of 250kw would have to plug in at the vary same time and at the very same state of charge with on that same charging cabinet (not the stall/dispenser, but the same cabinet in the background). Making it almost impossible to happen.
He was not getting the full charging speed of the Ford because it was at 49% SoC and the Lighting maxes out at 177kw to begin.
I think V3's balance across 4 stations in my experience and go slower depending on how many cars are connected.
@@scoty_does It's much more ingenious than that. Not only does it balance across 4 stalls initially, but it also burrows and balances from the next four, and if larger, from the next four and so on, so that in all it balances across the whole site. So unless the whole site is completely full, and all plugged in at the same time, and all with a low state of charge, you're going to get the full speed that you EV is asking for.
Excellent video. Concise and to the point. That is what I appreciate. There are a couple of other videos out there where the person(s) go on and on ad noseum with unnecessary blather. I am a Mach-e owner and look forward to having access to the Supercharger Network.
Wow, reminds me of the early days of cell phones when roaming really started working on different networks. You could really travel with your phone and it worked. The next big deal will be when the first non-Tesla cars start shipping with the NACS connector on the car. What do you think the first model will be with NACS?🚗
Hopefully Aptera! :)
Good job Electrek! Y'all deserve credit for great reporting on consumer topics that affect the health of the globe. And for that I salute you o7
Does the Ford precondition the batteries when navigating to a supercharger?
Thank you for sharing.
So with adapter, you can basically charge either at CCS charging stations or NACS Tesla super charging stations?
Believe V4 chargers have longer cables, but definitely agree that I wish all of them were just 2-3 feet longer.
The cables on current V3's cannot be any longer at their current width and still deliver 500 AMP's. They will over heat very easily because amperage is what cause the heat, and 400v chargers can only deliver really fast charging by upping the AMP's. However, on 800v, which uses higher voltage and lower AMP's, the cables can be much longer.
On V4 Superchargers with their longer cables, they are also thicker because they still need to deliver high AMP's for 400v EVs including most current Teslas. For V3's to have longer cables, they will all have to be replaced with V4 cables in order to be any longer.
@@Paul-cj1wb Oh I know. That’s why I said I wish it were longer. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t have challenges.
As a Tesla owner, in a busy station, please don't take up 2 spaces it takes up TWO CHARGERS
It is expected by both Tesla and Ford that they will take up two spaces when charging. It's the only way they can charge because the cable won't reach any other way. Impacts can be minimized by leaving the rightmost stalls available for Fords.
They have no choice, bro
It's definitely good news like you said for everyone who uses them which for the majority of people is just on the occasional road trip since most people still trickle charge at home for both economic and feasibility reasons...
I think it’s cool for the EV adaptation. Cool to see You and Kyle at the Avenel station by my house.
As a Tesla owner, I think this is great for EV adoption, but guarantee I'll curse them all when I have to wait at the Supercharger, especially when they nose in and take up two stalls😊
What is the protocol for parking and charging when its all Tesla's and a ford has the port on the wrong side?
Good video. At 3:27 the Ford woman with NJ license plate number C30SLS leaves with the plug thrown on the ground. There should be a hefty fine for this.
I caught that too! She is still learning.. hopefully.
@@scoty_does Hopefully, does she also throw the gas pump hose on the ground? It's shameful. There perhaps should be a sensor on the holder. Maybe charge a $20 fine (or more) for not replaced the cord.
Maybe it wouldn’t go back in because she forgot to remove the adapter…
@@bryanvesagas3629 You might be right. Either it was a Magicdock or she forgot to take her adapter off. Not being able to reinsert the plug should have been a hint. No problem, adapters are cheap. Not.
Bad choice of B-roll, I suspect. It looks like they were moving (re-parking), as the car stopped just before the footage ended - probably to reposition to get to the cable. Important detail to note: their adapter was still connected to the cable. They're not gonna leave that behind.
Why was the phone screen static? Is it a screenshot?
I think this is great for EV adoption. I am a Tesla owner and happy to see it.
1:43 - version three supercharger cabinets, do not share power with adjacent or any other charging stalls. If the kilowatt charging rate is sub optimal, it is very likely on the vehicle side rather than the charging infrastructure side.
They technically don’t but they load share. Which still divides power among the string of adjacent stalls. That’s why they are numbers 1A, 1B, 1C.
🚘unless its an emergency on a road trip i won’t be connecting, but i’ll take my free adapter 😂
3:28 - put the cord back you big dope.
Correction. Only Version 2 Superchargers split the available current among two vehicles. And im not sure why you think Tesla should be responsible for other manufacturers having their charging ports in the wrong location. The left rear corner of the vehicle is the best location. I have Leafs and a fiat 500e, but my Tesla's location is the best. Back in to charge and, when charging is complete, justvdrive away with the best visibility.
Can't wait for GM! 🚙
What happens if you attempt to charge a CCS Ford Focus??
There was a CZcams Channel which has tested a Rivian and a Chevy - only cars approved by Tesla will work on the chargers.
So it would be nice if Ford would just put the damn charging port on the right side of the car in the rear of the vehicle and adopt the NAC connector. Stop playing games with this, as it isn’t something you should be competing on, remember, Tesla’s mission is to accelerate the worlds transition, not just in the US, but the worlds transition to sustainable energy, and so let’s get with the program here people.
Calm down, they are already going to do that on future EVs starting next year. But the existing EVs still need to charge.
As a tesla owner its not a good news for us. Tesla supercharger near me is already super busy. More EV charging at the supercharger more money for the Tesla but for those Tesla owners may see the rate increase.
🚗 am glad they opening to other, I just hope the Chevy is next .
We only take our Tesla for trip and the Chevy for 15 mile trip
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You said J3400 incorrectly
Ah… but could a NON-Ford EV use your adapter at a Supercharger? And you could you use a different brand of adapter?
Its good for the EV vehicle customer in General.
Is it possible for people to steal the adapter?
It’s possible, so you better stay there until charging is done.
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Actually, the adapter was designed and manufactured by Tesla
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What happens when the non-Tesla vehicles take up two stalls???????
I don't own a Ford EV, but wanted to address one issue. The thought that Tesla drivers "own" Tesla supercharger locations is rather ridiculous. Tesla owns and operates them. Not to pick a fight with Tesla drivers, but Tesla has negotiated agreements with all US manufacturers about adopting the NACS as the new charging standard. As such, you better get used to non Teslas charging at superchargers...
Tesla drivers own them
nope, tesla does. @@pickelkilla
I drive a Model Y and I think it's great. Welcome to reliable charging!
Tesla supercharging is distinct profit centre. Profit from other brands will find new superchargers. This is thing. When you are focussed on profitability you can afford an open market approach. I wonder if any other manufacturer building out chargers eh Audi, will reciprocate?? Generosity becomes explicit when others don't reciprocate. This is charitable donation from Tesla to the industry ... Still eh....Elon bad huh!!
@@pickelkillayou got a certificate of ownership?? Which one do you own?? 😂😂😂😂
F$#@ Tesla in opening it to other EV manufacturers WITHOUT waiting for them to CHANGE their CHARGING PORT and having their cars with NACS.
The CABLE is SHORT to lessen the problem, and we love it that way!
STOP it ELON now, until they are done with the correct location of the port and the NACS, period.
Good as one more option while it's there in a pinch, but will use as a last resort on account of cost and Elon. Just don't know how much can trust it'll be a permanent option when the CEO could in theory arbitrarily decide some future Ford decision is too 'woke' and pull access unless something in the contract makes this in stone?
So you have no idea what Tesla is charging you for energy at the time of charging? That clearly needs to change.
I believe they legally must provide kW of power sold and cost, albeit it can probable be through the app or vehicle screen
It shows right on the Tesla screen, when searching for chargers, and while charging, displays KWH and total price...
good question, if non-Teslas will pay some premium, as they currently do at MagicDock sites... assume so
But lets get specific.... Because we often do get specific on Musk..... Elon good generous open market .... Or Elon evil selfish billionaire ?? I mean its a fair question isnt it??
I hope tesla charges you more....bow down to Tesla legacy auto....you are doomed
The author is upspeaking.
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