Imagine this for a minute; It has become more important to make drugs available for obesity than making sure our food supply does not make obesity worse. This is all about who is making money and the American people not realizing they are being played by corporations
My grandfather, a WWII vet who also lost a son in Vietnam, died alone of a broken heart at age 97 in a nursing home in Upstate NY because we were not allowed to see him. He got covid in the nursing home from residents/staff, BEAT it, and was STILL not allowed to have family as visitors. I will never forgive that we could not be there with him.
Sorry that happened to you. There was just no reason for it and it was so cruel and unnecessary. This is how atrocities happen people just don’t allow the official line of bullshit to be question and instead follow it blindly. I’m so sorry this happened to you and your family God bless you
@@majinraptor He's referring to how it was in the beginning. There were simple guidelines they followed. If Trump thought it was a good idea or endorsed something, then it should be ridiculed and banned. If Trump didn't support an idea, then that was the correct solution. You were then called a science denier if you dared question.
@@majinraptor within the first month we knew pretty much all the key data points, as outlined in all the early studies and reconfirmed over and over for years. Dispite all of that, had we followed standard medical science advice we would have faired tremendously better. As Jek said, anything trump mentioned was discredited... which includes 90% of all standard medical advice. ... i'm an evolutionary biologist that predicted the exact mutations Omicron had nearly a year in advance based on how mRNA vaccines work. I like most others were deemed "anti-science" by people who've never read a single scientific paper in their lives. We tried to tell everyone, but people like those in this video let their hatred blind them to the point they helped kill untold numbers of people with their shear arrogance.
@@majinraptor clear illustration... rember "deadly horse medicine"?..... its actually one of the worlds safest drugs and has been used to save hundreds of millions of humans. It even won a nobel prize for such use. And has since been found to decrease the severity of covid if used as a prophylactic. Aka, many people suffered because of the shear delusional insanity of the people calling it "deadly horse medicine". And more will in the future because that batsht insane idea that its dangerous is in millions of peoples heads.
You only had to be responsible for yourself, and maybe 2-4 other people. It is like comparing the largest aircraft carrier in the world to a 2-man rowboat. It beyond your comprehension.
They enjoyed the power, elitist perspective, and genuinely dislike antiestablishment peasants. Some of them had monetary gain as well. Authoritarian cowards. Never forget.
Accountability over forgiveness. They weren’t prepared to forgive anyone else they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt especially the way they acted.
People get fired from Taco Bell for a lot less but, these type of fools go on causing disaster after disaster with real world consequences, with impunity.
Nearly a million Americans died and you believe they were criminally overly-cautious. Do you truly comprehend how many more deaths would have occurred had they NOT done what they did?!
@@kingsbay1probably less actually. They didn't promote exercise and staying healthy, they promoted staying in your house where you were more likely to catch a virus in recirculated air, masks that we know now they KNEW didn't do anything, and a vaccine that they lied about time and time again. I feel pity that you still believe their lies, but after everything thats happened, we need accountability before forgiveness.
It's funny how the people who had no problem violating our rights during a crisis now want forgiveness on the basis that they were not aware of the science of Covid, even though millions of us tried to tell them at the time, but were called conspiracy theorists or worse.
@@davidhutchinson5233 I had to wear a mask against my will, even though we all knew that the science showed the masks were ineffective at slowing the spread of airborne viruses.
That point about the Stormy Daniels case being a “tactical error” in bringing Trump to justice is dumb when seconds before they are talking about how bad it is that the majority of American people believe that the justice system is politically influenced. The REASON people think that is because of there is too much emphasis in the MEDIA on ulterior motives and end game tactics. The justice system simply needs to be blind and consistent in it’s approach, and the media should constantly remind everyone of that. Period. The average person would not be afforded even 1% of all the allowances that Trump and so many other white collar criminals get through the legal process because of the power, money, and influence they hold. Screw all the concern about the optics of how 4 indictments look to Trump’s base, and just support that a crime is a crime regardless of its severity and needs to be pursued, regardless of who it is. Remind people that Trump will have his days in court and the very high burden of proof is highly on his and any other criminal defendant’s side. That’s how you restore faith in the justice system.
Would it not have been better to start with the big ones then let the little ones take their bites at him while he was in prison or otherwise facing responsibility for his crimes? By then even many of his base would've been awakened to what they had been mislead to believe about him.
I notice in your comment you are basically admitting this is a politically motivated persecution of the orange man. As you said "the REASON people think that is because of there is too much emphasis in the MEDIA on ulterior motives and end game tactics." If you haven't yet noticed it; the media's purpose is to get you to nod along with everything they present. However 76% of Americans can smell BS when it's put in front of thier faces. The political persecution of your political opponents is so damaging to a democratic system because it completely undermines democracy and the one thing that makes a democracy possible. Trust in the democratic process. Yuri Besmenov was not kidding back in the 80's. It's coming true.
@@josecanales2978 Killing people. Beta coronaviruses are well known viruses, viruses that have been causing epidemics in care-homes for decades. This guy, made it policy to put people infected with a SARS type beta coronavirus INTO CARE HOMES. That's murder.
@@josecanales2978for lying about everythingCOVID related, lying under oath, suppressing free speech, ruining the economy, ruining kids educations. Getting people fired for not complying. All over lies.
We have been dealing with beta coronaviruses forever (they're older than our species is because even fish can be infected by their own strains of coronaviruses). We have been studying them for decades, the idea that they 'made mistakes' is BS.
It was clear to me by mid-April. But by June 2020, when Democrats outright said that rioting was safe and acceptable but going to see your family members in their homes was dangerous, should have been the moment the entire country realized that the Democratic party was involved in a vicious slander campaign to destroy the country so they could win a stupid election.
I was living in Europe during CoVid. Watching from afar it looked like pure insanity in the US. Yes, we had lockdowns, distance ed and work, limited hours for shopping etc. We had to carry a form with our information if we were out before or after curfew but never once were we any in my circle asked for that form. We wore masks, washed our hands and when they became available we were vaccinated. Washing groceries? No. Other than the very first week in March 2020 our supermarkets were fully stocked. Bakeries and small retail shops were open. Restaurants were open for delivery. We even traveled by car and plane multiple times. Watching the chaos in the US was surreal.
honestly this was very sickening to watch. These people lied and treated people horribly who saw through all the BS they tried to shove down our throats. People lost relationships with family and friends, jobs, and some of them their lives because of what they advocated. NOW they have the gaul to ask for grace and forgiveness?Where was their grace and forgiveness for those that disagreed with them?? Do they really think that an "I'm Sorry" is going to cut it??? GO TO HELL
Did they even say "I'm sorry"? Maybe I missed it. Let's not undersell the crimes of these psychopaths. The tyrannical orders and rampant censorship CAUSED deaths. There would be many more people still living today if information about effective treatments had been allowed to be communicated with the public. Quarantining healthy people was then and is still now a moronic strategy that will not work. It did not work. All it did was make everyone miserable and less healthy. Andrew Cuomo should be in prison.
And so many people were stuck at home with abusive partners, or unhappy homes, or completely isolated, they couldn't leave or work, and so many ended up with addictions. It's heartbreaking.
@ctrl-shift-run8681 I think Bill extended the conversation cover the Covid topic with Andrew Cuomo. Did you catch the subtleness in Melissa DeRosa's response to Bill mentioning Gov. Hochul? I guess we all have to read her book to get all the juicy details?
"we were doing our best" You were cruel and mean and gave no grace or forgiveness to people who had perfectly reasonable questions And its still happening.
@@loveconquerorBS. There's a time for mercy (when the other guy surrenders and is no longer a threat). Before then it's stupidity. Did Jesus have mercy on the Pharisee who, not only never asked for it, but accused him of being demon possessed? No. He had it on the rabble who did not know what the Pharisee leadership knew, and on the thief next to him who, first accepted his punishment, and THEN asked for it.
@@el_killorcure - Not sure I completely agree with you, but...your perspective might be correct. Never thought of it that way that Jesus didn't have mercy upon that unrepentant Pharisee but did for the unrepentant bloodthirsty crowd who were plain ignorant. Or worse, they did know and still wanted Jesus murdered, because they had hostility in their hearts towards God. He did pray, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." Still, I'm going to chew over your opinion. Thanks for offering it.
@@machtnichtsseimann You said yourself they did not know, unlike the leaders who did and still refused him. Peter himself says again in Acts that the Pharisee did not know (he's talking to a different group, Gamaliel being in said group). And as Jesus said to the previous group after they threw the cured blind man from the synagoge: "If you were blind, you would be without sin. But because you say you can see, your sin remains". Thanks for the response!
Not to mention you didn't follow the same rules you forced down people's throats up here in oneida County we said screw your rules then you fined anyone you could of you really did the best you could you would have gave back that money and apologized for being wrong. You did nothing Cuomo I'm glad your gone
One should never make public policy based on changing information! Why should those who never forced anything have to forgive those who refuse to admit they were wrong and harmed those who spoke against it!
If they had just sat back and done nothing - and things got way worse, believe me, people would be mad about that, too. So most took the more extreme approaches as they were generally safer bets. Now that we know how everything worked out, we will be better prepared if it happens again.
@dionysuseros7423 gtfo with that, people had been saying they were wrong for years. Those people who were right the whole time were silenced, vilified, and ostracized from their communities. The decisions they made ruined people's lives, and they have the gaul to stand on their soap box and say, "Have some grace and forgive us". No one should ever in a million years forgive these people. We shouldn't ever forget our govermemt lied to us and manipulated science in an attempt to strip us of our liberties.
@@dionysuseros7423No. You're forgetting The Great Barrington Declaration, signed by thousands of scientific experts, who were subsequently made fun of/were maligned, lost jobs/positions, and were BANNED from most social media. We all had access to the same information, until they BANNED any opposing viewpoints! 🥴 That left the public uninformed. This was NOT informed consent. It was criminal, imo. 😔
People knew what to do from the beginning, just the people in power weren't in possession of that wisdom. It could've gone either way, we just had the awful luck to have the idiots in power. @@dionysuseros7423
reminder: these folks ruined lives and sent people to jail for asking questions or having hesitation. forgiveness is earned, not given, and these clowns didn't do anything to deserve it.
The people who pushed for these things they now know where wrong need to aknolage they caused harm to others, and then need to apologize and ask for forgiveness. The least is apologizing before expecting forgiveness.
It’s rich that Scott Galloway wanted harsher lockdowns, ppl to be fired, and he used his position as a *tenured professor* to advocate for those draconian measures…but now he admits “I was wrong” & wants grace & forgiveness.
And he thinks that THIS is the election cycle that we'll see misinformation and weaponization of media platforms in order to influence an election? What a POS. "We were all operating with imperfect information". No. You actively silenced anyone who didn't agree with whatever "science" your side supported.
Took care of both parents in our home during Covid and neither one got it; acquantances put theirs in a nursing home and they passed within a few months from it. Beyond disgusting when some don't treasure the older ("greatest") generation.
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." - Thomas Sowell
Can we please stop quoting Thomas Sowell, he is part of the problem. That being said, Donald's trials are because of his actions not political motivations.
@@brentrosencrans3968 the overthrow of the Government of Iran by America, Iran-Contra, Noriega and Panama, Invasion of Iraq Part I(Desert Storm) & Part II(WMD's), Panama Papers Scandal, Tailhook Scandal, Fat Albert Scandal,... Do I really need to go on?!
They do but their voice is silenced. The criminal dnc did this by committing election fraud in 2016 and 2020, and now they've just gotten rid of primaries or other candidates and changed the order of elections to favour the dementia patient in chief.
@@FulgriniusSanguimthat's EXACTLY the wrong way to go. Judge by the law IF THE LAW ISJUST. Did you know it is against the law to feed the homeless in certain areas? That is an example of an UNJUST LAW.
Same. These people are the reason why so many family members and friends are no longer speaking. They’re the ones who coined the anti vaxx label on people. They encouraged those vaxxed and with masks to assault people who chose not to engage. These people are evil.
Correct they aren't but it was on purpose. Look how only 2.4% of the population runs the media, and owns pharma. 2/4 of these folks are in the tiny hat cult, a tiny hat cultist even won nobel prize for the mRNA shots. No cohencidences.
We were wrong about everything. The other side was right. You should still support us because we are good and accidentally got ot wrong and the other side is bad and accidentally got it right. Outcomes aren't important, only intentions are important and we intended to be right.
Australia did covid camps where you had to pay $8.000 to stay for 14 days if you were infected, Austria did prison sentences for the unvaccinated, and they're all getting away with it. I watched my grandmothers funeral on a zoom call
@@glennv3176 As an American I was horrified to see what was happening down under. It's hard not to really like Aussies but for the love of God your government are complete scum.
England was waiting for America to join the fight…we were reluctant after WW1 and the Great Depression. We also sold England some P38 Lightning, but did not include turbochargers which made that plane deadly. Brits callled the plane “castrated lightning”
Bill was spot on about the whole “team” thing with the younger people. When I was in college there was just so much vitriol and hatred for saying anything even *slightly* out of line with whatever the crowd said.
Literally what I was thinking, you take the word out of my mouth, even though I think they do him dirty on that hit job. He is politician and I will never any politician.
I been saying for years now that the biggest driver of housing crisis is not greedy investors, it's all the rules and regulations that make it impossible to build anything for less than a million dollars. Then even if you manage to complete all the required applications, the local towns people get together and vote NO to allow the building in their neighborhood, because they know their own homes will keep rising in value when nobody else is allowed to build new ones
It’s also population growth and inflation without a commensurate rise in wages. 30-40 years ago, the average single family home price in the U.S. was 2.5 times the average household income. Today, that multiple is over 4. The amount of habitable land on earth is relatively fixed. Because of the exponential growth curve of the human population, the demand - particularly for single family homes - will exceed the supply - increasing competition and raising prices.
And in September 2021 we were told we would lose our jobs, and others were advocating to refuse any medical treatment for unvaccinated people. What they were trying to do to us is still unbelievable.
It is but I think it demeans the people.. the reason a lot of people support rappers that get arrested is because of a systemic reform that is needed where Blacks that raise their voice against the system are targeted and arrested under false pretenses.. I think it is similar with Trump.. what we should be focusing on is rectifying the system so that no one gets left off
@@roryp7730 "I think it is similar with Trump.." except trump is the one who is abusing the system. trump IS the abusive system. he and the right wing noise machine constantly lied and pretending trump was not a corrupt criminal abusing the government for his own ends. the folks who support trump because they think he is the victim of a corrupt system are gullible idiots.
You could have listened to those of us who said its okay to keep the schools open. Dont try and omit that it was being yelled from every corner of the world by at least 1 person.
And the scientists with fact based real science told everyone on Oct 2020 in the Great Barrington Declaration. These scientists proved to be correct. Government scientists were not correct. Control of the population was the governments goal and it wasn't for anyone's health. I'm from Canada and it played out the same way here.
I took care of people in nursing homes doing covid and bill is right most of us are poor if you have to work 60+ hours a week to maintain basic life you are poor quite convenient they glossed over that statement
Where my dad was in California; staff brought in College vid from working at another facility where it killed over half the residents. And what no one talks about is that many in Black Media originally were saying they were not worried about it; because it was a rich white person's disease. I heard it on two of the biggest rap music radio stations in LA. And the "rich travelers" I predicted would infect their poor housecleaners; cooks; drivers; etc; when discussing it with the at risk kids I worked with.
The people who we hire to take care of our parents since we're too busy aren't paid enough. They won't take time off from work if they get sick. They can't afford to. Do they even have "vacation time" or "sick time"? PT employee don't. So, you go to work....the money is what matters. People with the all the gold win....work hard kids!
The black nurse who lived next door me. That she wasn’t gonna get Covid because it was a rich white persons disease she partied and had tons of people over throughout the pandemic, spreading Covid like wildfire. @@craigbritton1089
Love you Bill, going all the way back to when you were doing standup only. But starting with Politically Incorrect when you got people with different views to sit down for Civil Discussions; you won my heart. Thank You so much for all the good times watching
And it’s not “ would you do things differently”, it’s how quickly you would respond to changing data. The only “science” being followed in 2020 was political science.
Cuomo is working so hard to reestablish himself and twist the public perception of him. He groped two women not 11…. Facts! He did a couple wrong things during Covid with the elderly and nursing homes… I mean he was the only one dealing with a massive number infections all by himself since the president and the federal government were nowhere to be found. It’s OK that he made serious mistakes. It was a Pandemic for F sake!!! Trump had no idea what to do. At least he tried.
@@deborahfreedman333there are two right wing Israel apologists and Warmongers and a corrupt disgraced governor and his clever mistress. I could do with less. But the left was abandoned by Maher years ago
We will NEVER forgive and forget. We were socially ostracized, economically broken, publicly shamed and fired, despite being COMPLETELY CORRECT. Our nation will feel the economic effects of this for at least a decade, and our culture was perhaps irreparably pushed toward a neighbor vs neighbor surveillance state. Our core principles were trod into dust, and we were shamed for sticking to them.
The real issue is that these people refused to look at the facts. It was known early on that Covid was not a threat for young adults/children. You can’t claim to have worked with the information that you had when you refused any information that you didn’t like.
He did his best with the information that was there at the time. This was a novel coronavirus that we were all trying to figure out as we went along. You can’t Monday morning quarterback these things
@@RocStarr913 - EVERYONE knew from the beginning that the elderly were most at risk and young adults/children were extremely low risk. This was only “Monday morning quarterbacking” for those who refused the facts.
A lot of teachers did not want to be in there because kids could spread it and they ok and teachers got sick. Ppl forget all the context of the situation
"I was wrong. We were all operating off of imperfect information, but we were doing our best" Ok sure, and also vilifying literally anyone who disagreed with your prescriptions to the event and snootily looking down on them as some form of intellectually and morally superior ass only to turn around and say "oh, well, oops?"
The people who turned out to be right at the start of covid are no different that those who made missteps. No one knew what was going on. The only difference is the latter group turned out to be lucky in their choices.
That argument that Newsome, Cuomo and all the other lib governors are now making only works lack any common sense. It was obvious early on that Fauci and the CDC were lying. Even if you knew nothing about communicable diseases, you could see that what they were telling the public didn't make sense. Should've been a give away when they shut everything but it was okay to go riot and loot business's
Yeah, I remember when the mayor of NYC wanted to shut things down, to slow down the spread, and Cuomo prevented it, and bullied anyone who dared disagree.
If you feel so "snootily looked down upon", maybe you should stop and remember that Covid wasn't about your ego, or a politician's self-importance, or whose feelings got hurt, but it was an unprecedented emergency, and no one was really sure how to handle it. Maybe everything in this society doesn't have to be about John Q. Public feeling looked down on. Maybe.
What about the teachers during Coivid? Who teaches the kids when the teacher comes down with Coivid? In one day, 7 teachers cane down with covoid at my grandsons school. Who looks after the kids then?
This was the comment I was looking for. Yeah kids were less likely to have serious issues or die from covid but that didn't mean their teachers weren't at risk. Maybe if teachers were paid better there would be a plethora of young people stepping into the role.
They want grace for making bad decisions but don’t admit/apologize for not allowing other points of view to be heard during that time period to avoid making those same bad decisions.
I mean to be fair, you have to be somewhat unilateral and quick with decision making when lives are potentially that much on the line. There was a time and place to start drilling more into the consensuses with Covid, but it was not when it first started and we needed quick action.
The problem is most of those other points of view were dead wrong, coming from frauds looking to make money, and were dangerous to public health. eg. the numerous frauds trying to push anti-parisiticals as a cure for a virus.
@@shortyragsGiven a year and a half later, the Biden administration attempted to get tens of millions of people fired from their jobs for not taking an experimental vaccine with less than a year of testing, sorry, it’s well beyond just the first few months. We knew what COVID was then, and the vaccine (as Pfizer in admitted to European Parliament) never slowed the spread or was even tested to do so. This goes well beyond the first few months, but first few, Cuomo knew what he did and he was celebrated by the media for it. There has to be retribution on people like Andrew Cuomo, and should be thrown in jail for the rest of his life. It’s why with some of Trump’s legal troubles that Cuomo has been somewhat defending him because he knows that if he doesn’t and Trump is reelected, Cuomo is one of the first to get arrested. Cuomo knows the value of buttering up Trump hoping it may spare him in case Trump is sworn in in 2025.
No Scott, you get no grace, no forgiveness. You shouldn't be in charge of anything. It was revealed that you have the heart of a tyrant and if something happens again in the future your 'go to' response will again be tyrannical. The same holds for others of Scott's ilk. He, and they, no matter how sincerely fearful have no right to violate the Rights of others.
Here in Pennsylvania we had people who were infected sent back to nursing homes. We had 300% deaths in these facilities. I watched all the residents die, and the staff, and another full facility again, and another staff, and a third time, and they left the people who were still there with no employees. It was unbelievable And this happened across the country We had to go to the courts to get the actual numbers because they were saying zero people in my town died and we had over 20,000 in our town die in these places. They are STACK AND PACK TILL YOU DIE Noone cares about you if you are in one of these places. I had my lawyer tell me she was taking care of her mother in her house and she was never sending her to one of them. I was shocked to see her set up her front room with a hospital bed and the equipment. I had not seen a rich person who took care of the older family member if they didn't have to.
Did your governor also lie about the number of deaths? Did your governor write a book (using state employees and resources) in the middle of the pandemic telling everyone how great he was doing? Is your Governor corrupt too? Cuomo is loathsome.
@@dimitar297 That was the same with me and then I finally got it in March this year. Unfortunately I did get really sick and it was pretty inconvenient. It was just like having the Flu for a week. And then I could feel it when I would be lifting or on the treadmill for about a month. That little bit of weakness that lingered. Really just the same as a flu for me. To be fair I guess I could have had the flu and Covid at the same time. It was Flu season.
Thank you for this insightful interview w NY heroes Gov. Cuomo & Melissa deRosa. I thought you kept it balanced & fair, other than hammering down on the nursing home issue. All guests spoke superbly, & KUDOS to you, Bill Maher, for being a journalist of integrity!
Cuomo is a NY hero to you? He's another corrupt, Corporate Dem pushing horrible Republican policies to gullible liberals. People like Cuomo can sell torture to liberals, like Obama (rectal for e feeding) and child separations at the border (Obama laid that foundation).
There was "no grace & forgiveness" given to those of us that DIDN'T succumb to the pressure of getting jabbed. They were wrong & should be apologizing for their treatment of us that actually questioned the ever-changing advice of CV19.
I don’t feel sorry for these people. To not want to be proactive In the middle of what was a pandemic and an international health crisis is absolutely selfish and people deserve their karma
We all had the same information to start with. These fascists just went for the power grab, that's all. Every time they were challenged or proven wrong, they doubled down, censored, and threatened to lock people up for disagreeing with them. They tased and arrested people for walking their dogs or taking their kids to the park. They filled skateparks with sand. What they have done is unforgivable and to appear meek and remorseful now is a slap in the face to those they intentionally harmed.
When somebody uses the term jabbed, which I don’t know why just bothers me, you can tell where they’re coming from. These are the same people who like to insult everybody by calling them sheep. Sheep, jabbed, be original. Baaaaa!
The two comments above is why I give no “grace or forgiveness.” Even after all the facts show you and the dems were wrong you still show vitriol and discontent. You get no grace, all those in charge need to be help accountable.
Alright, since you're apparently so phenomenally demoralized that you hate the **language** used more than the idea that your overlords lied to you and were completely wrong, I'll be original. How bout "you're a hopelessly propagandized and utterly servile political pawn." Better? @@mariaradosta3490
I was physically assaulted and went to the hospital for broken ribs. I was beat up really bad, my eye was black and swollen to the size of a grapefruit, I had scrapes and bruises all over my body. My entire side were they kicked me in my ribs over and over again was purple. I was in so much agony. The doctors didn't bother looking into my ribs, they were more concerned with covid. They tested me three times and three times the results showed no covid. Then they said they think it's covid and suggested I go home to quarantine myself. I said "what about my ribs?" And he said "there's nothing we can do about your ribs." He still insisted I go home, but I demanded an x-ray so he just wrote me a prescription for morphine and told me to go see a specialist... When you hear about all the cases please keep in mind that I'm included in those statistics even though I didn't have it.
@@jabberwookkeeYou may recall. He didn't have covid. Like many who were recorded as having it or had been recorded as having died from it. The financial incentives produced huge false statistics. America had the highest fatality rates in the world. According to the statistics. As Mark twain said. " there are lies, damned lies, and statistics"
Horrible, at the least x ray and showed how to take care of it along with some medicine; and what ‘ specialist’ were you supposed to see? Sorry about you being disrespected!! I watched so many’ docs’ around the world talking about what worked and how to handle it.. most of them black listed and fired for not going with the main narrative!
CNN were gushing over Michael Avenatti saying he could be the next Prez. He stole from Stormy and was sent to prison. Stormy ended up owing Trump court costs which makes him one of the few people who can say he slept with a stripper and she paid him. Classic. Shows you the judgement of morons like Maher who fall for anyone willing to tell them what they want to hear... can you say Liz Chaney
Interesting. You are concerned about children being out of school during Covid. What about the adults that were there to teach them. If they were all sick who would have been in the schools to teach them? That is why the schools were shut down. Kids do not teach themselves.
Melissa says "There will be another pandemic and we have to learn from this one so we do it better the next time". Do what better? Nothing should have been done in the first place. I like how the audience claps like a bunch of trained seals.
This comment is so absolutely ridiculous. If a hemorrhagic fever virus ever become airborne with a deathrate equal to or above 50%+ the bubonic plague / black death during middle ages Europe governing bodies would defiantly have to do something
Right.. and now pandemics are like.. just a casual thing.. like menstrual cycles.. hell as long as faucci is out of thr government and retired.. don't expect any pandemics too soon.. They for some reason seem to be planned nicely.. like every 100 years
Interesting tap-dance around Bill's original question about why NY was the only state that did not test patients for COVID before transferring them to a nursing home from a hospital. Cuomo launched into a history of what the thinking was at the time about the origins of COVID (China to Europe to US) and the a detailed description of the types of reporting and tracking his administration did on the deaths of hospital vs. nursing home patients. But no answer as to why NY, unlike all the other states, did not test the patients. And then Bill decided it was the economically disadvantaged staff that "walked it in" and Cuomo was only too happy to agree with that assessment of why so many elderly died from COVID in nursing homes.
Coumo was correct in how Covid came to his state! New York has a very Popular International Airport! Our State of Ga had an International Flight from Italy come in with a Covid Infected American, who spread Covid and died 2 weeks after he got Covid due to lack of Hospital staff and supplies!
Exactly! That's why I don't understand the people on here talking about Cuomo's straight-shooting NY style. He's just another dodge and deflect politician but with a NY accent.
"But no answer as to why NY, unlike all the other states, did not test the patients" not exactly. first he said they were tested. or more accurately when asked if they weren't tested he said that was wrong. then he went further and said he got assurances by the homes that they would treat the patients in ways that would prevent the spread of the disease to other residents. iow, they were dumping off ppl who had recovered enough that they thought wouldn't be infectious to private organizations who had promised to handle the problem themselves, in order to keep hospital space open for new serious patients. i'm not quoting him exactly, but that's what he SAID in the video above. idk if he's lying about all this, and for me, trusting private nursing home corporations to treat their residents responsibly doesn't seem like a very good idea. otoh, NYC was one of the major centers for covid infection because of international travel. they were gonna get creamed by covid no matter what they did.
@@victorblock3421 No, he did not. Did he go in and smother him w his pillow? The staff wearing 10 day old PPE was not conducive to stop the spread. Jared Kushner was holding PPE that we taxpayers bought for his own stockpile. The WH didn't want to share w *blue states*. They were on their own and bidding against the government to purchase PPE. I guess Coumo is responsible for not having enough ventilators and people died while the WH was sitting on yet another stockpile.
They ask for grace for their poor judgements during the early stages of COVID, but they showed zero grace towards those who thought differently at the time, they claimed anyone who thought differently were literal killers who would spread the virus, they maliciously claimed that if you opposed lockdowns/masking/school closures that you wanted to kill grandma, and they’ve yet to apologize to the people they callously treated when the “science” wasn’t set in stone.
I think they said they were accountable; and would do things differently: and since people always fight the last war; the next one may be spread by touch and affect kids And most respiratory illnesses affect children and the elderly; so I am tired of ignorance from people who know next to nothing.
@@craigbritton1089that's the silver lining here, for how ill prepared we were to handle covid on every level, fortunately the virus itself wasn't as bad as it could have been. Whatever may come out of the jungle next could be several times worse and if that's true we're likely done for. I thought it would take a much more powerful plague to hurt the nation on varying levels as much as covid did. So it's just a matter of when, not if it happens.
Cuomo is responsible for maliciously killing thousands of elderly people. Unlike the other states, Cuomo got unique aid from the feds where they sent the Mercy Ship and set up a rec center for Cuomo to house the elderly with COVID, and he said “thanks but no thanks” knowing it would lead to thousands of deaths, and he didn’t give a shit because he couldn’t bare the thought of Donald Trump getting good press. If Barrack Obama was still President and did everything Trump did during the beginning of COVID, Cuomo would have gladly accepted the aid that he didn’t with Trump. This makes Cuomo a murderer. Rehabilitating Andrew Cuomo is like trying to rehabilitate Adolf Eichmann. No, he should get the fucking chair and was easily the worst offender during COVID after Fauci, the CCP, and Randi Weingarten.
Nearly 2,000 American teachers died from COVID but the stance of this panel is that we should have sacrificed even more teachers in order for schoolchildren to have in-person classes? That's is literally what the one panelist was saying when he said keeping children in school was worth the risk.
Right! True accountability includes an acknowledgement of the wrong(s) done, along with a good faith assurance that what was done will never be done again. In this case, fines and jail time would be nice, but... I've lived long enough to know that will never happen. Nor will an apology, or true accountability. The businesses and "special" interests involved are not only "too big to fail" but "too big to own mistakes." They are also "too powerful to be stopped when they deliberately affect generations of people simultaneously in the most deleterious way possible." Despite what they say now, "We didn't know," "Our information was spotty!" or "It was so new!" Don't believe it. They very much DID know. They wanted to sell more Lysol, Purell, and Clorox wipes. And MASKS, don't forget the masks!
You have every reason to cry if you voted for Biden, became a guinea pig and injected an experimental drug into your body, and consider the people on this show intelligent and grounded. Cry away
Andrew Cuomo and Michael Cohen calling out Trump's behavior is really laughable. Why not ask Michael Avenatti what he thinks? They are all on the same team.
No forgiveness for any of these people who feel they knew better ..they still feel they know better!! The fact that Cuomo feels the right to judge anyone says it all!
We were doing our best with the information we had at the time with the Covid. In the real world there is something called accountability. Imagine all small business owners who lost everything while big business flourished. That answer was a typical lefty whan whan answer if I ever heard one. Mr Galloway mentioned on a previous show on how it was terrible for young men to work from home because they needed to know how to read a room. Where do you think that trend started from Scott ?
I'd like to ask the former governor about the people who died from COVID who were forced into nursing homes after procedures which normally would have been allowed to go to their own homes.
The main culprits admit they where wrong and demand forgiveness from their victims because they could not have known any better at that point of time - pathetic!
They DID know better. ALL of the studies the media itself presented to back their lies actually confirmed the exact opposite of what the news media claimed. I read them.
Re nursing homes and the system of in-home and congregate caregiving facilities we have across the nation. Bill has a point about how ridiculously poorly we staff those who care for our most vulnerable (including the intellectually / developmentally disabled). Underpaid, undertrained, overworked, under-protected, underappreciated until a big event like COVID happens and we see how broken the systems already were.
When i was in a nursing home the head (i.e., only) nurse told me “The system is broken” almost proudly, to explain my problems in getting my insurance to do me right.
The Feds sent the Mercy Ship and set up a rec center for New York. Unlike every other governor in the United States, Cuomo doesn’t have this excuse. He is a uniquely vile offender during COVID.
Absolutely. I've ran nursing facilities and hospitals, and the amount of work that is expected from nursing home staff is unreal. Hospital nurses wouldn't stand a chance. I blame it on the corporate side that dominates nursing homes. The for-profit medical system is destroying any chances of fixing our terribly broken and greedy elderly care system. Got to get the shareholders as far away from nursing homes as possible. They only care about numbers, low for staff and high for patients is their game, and WE ALL LOSE.
In the case of IDD group homes or adult foster care, the reimbursement rates from Medicaid are too low for some to stay in business as costs rise, accept high needs individuals, find and retain adequate staff, etc. In order to close the gap, some families are buying homes, converting them for licensable congregate care, and leasing them at cost to service providers (under condition of taking and never expelling their children / adult children).
@jaspdx63 Not necessarily. The reason IDD and group homes are that way is because of the corporate businesses that pocket the profits instead of paying staff better. I've ran or worked with about every type. The ID and group homes I encountered paid their staff very little, yet the companies did very well. Medicaid probably does need more funds, but also the question of waste comes up too. Profit shouldn't be in medicine, that's what makes it all a bit worse. Only ones who should profit are those who actually do the work.
The problem is not that the made decisions on wrong information. The problem is that they thought the people doing different were ignorant and racist. So why do they deserve "grace and forgiveness" when they called people names for being more mesured in their response.
"The problem is that they thought the people doing different were ignorant and racist." well, they WERE. the real problem is they thought the ignorance and racism were the reason the ppl were doing different things. seriously, when you have antiscience nuts- an entire fcking political party of them- spreading disinformation about masks and vaccines, or horse dewormers and sht,, and refusing to social distance, and being absolute Karens over the simple courtesy of wearing a mask, then it's easy to discount them as ignorant and not look at how they are handling things.
Hindsight is always 20/20 and it is easy to Monday morning QB. I am still most disappointed in how the majority of covid beliefs and concerns became political.
Except it wasn’t Monday morning quarterbacking when the data showed our elderly and those with specific comorbidities were at the greatest risk. Cities like NY refused these facts and continued to enforce strict policies that everyone knew wasn’t doing anything to help. Of course I would argue the media was much more to blame than our politicians.
We knew from the beginning that kids were very low risk and the elderly were high risk. What we did went against our own pandemic contingency plan that stated life continues as normal but protect the high risk individuals. We locked everything down in the name of politics.
When acting with imperfect info during covid, taking a rigid, hard-line stance one way or another, without being flexible, is NOT doing the best you could. That is called gambling and getting it wrong!
My question is how can you provide grace to people who can't admit that they were wrong? What is there to forgive. Its not like there was no legitimate criticism of the policies, its just the legitimate criticism were censored out of fear. There was the unquestionable belief that people don't have the ability to make decisions about their own health and safety.
Finally Bill!!!! You should recap the Covid thing like this more often. Don’t be quite so down on science. The science gets thrown into the political realm sadly out of necessity. But as things unpredictably play out, science is held in contempt, not politicians. There has to be a standard. Otherwise it’s a holes getting their “information” from Reddit
The biggest science error was Fauci not realizing that COVID was much easier to be transported in the air. A misprint in old research was off by a factor of ten. If he was not so soloed in his specialties: he would have known as many did; that air pollution research showed that the research Fauci relied on was wrong. Which is why all scientific research needs to be replicated; and experts ( or even generalists) in other silos consulted.
For Real Time, he really needs a particular type of guest where he can get into it in any meaningful way. So many different states ( and countries ) did their reporting differently, New York was very different to Florida. On his podcast, he makes your point much more often; that science is only as good as our understanding of it at present is, when new data arrives.. need to update our thinking. Scientific progress is I think the main term. But you are right in that science has become political, whether covid, evolution, creationism, climate change... it's bad to see but has actually been an aspect of science for a long long time ( if look at religion and politics)
When statistics came out ok Covid showing 50 year olds having mortality rate at 1%. Told two friends. One was elated and was booking a flight that week, the other one decided to stop going outside for another 6 months. Same information, wildly different actions.
@11:11 "We were operating with imperfect information ("all of which was mostly wrong") and did the best we could." American People: "Let's keep voting for the same system - that'll solve it!"
I'm shocked he had him on.....not a good look. I use to look forward to this show. Now not so much, Bills ego, and biases are shown more and more as he gets older.
Wrong?? How many senior citizens did Cuomo kill? He shuffled old people with Covid into nursing homes!!! By trying not to be "racist" against China, New York and New Jersey alone accounted for 35% of all Covid deaths in the US at the beginning of the pandemic. Get that idiot off the stage.
That's how adults operate. They work with the best information from the most trusted sources and try to make as good of a decision as possible. Then if it doesn't happen to be exactly correct you take that into consideration for the next similar instance and point out what could have been done differently. What you don't do is pay attention to a bunch of crackpots with little to no evidence, expertise, or consensus from reputable sources. There's a reason that COVID 19 was called a coronavirus and that's because nobody knew precise what we were dealing with, especially at the beginning. Yes, we probably did overreact but not knowing how serious it was that's the only rational move and I only hope we don't forget that the next time something like this inevitably pops up. Unfortunately, I feel like we'll have learned and put into practice too much of the wrong ideas based on an irrational way of looking at the situation.
He's brilliant. Forthright. Self-aware. I'd encourage anyone to find his commentary and presentations on CZcams and other sources. Start with his appearance on the Modern Wisdom podcast with Chris Williamson.
Yes. As Bill alluded to, the younger generation, brought up on the cell phones, is lost in the abyss of "passive-aggressive" fake emotivism. As a result, reason gets short changed, and that leads to all sorts of bad outcomes.
Cuomo never answered the question about Covid. he just changed the entire narrative and created strawmen to cover for his total and complete incompetence. He blew it and under no circumstances would he answer for that. He is not man enough to admit he blew it. The piles of New York dead, they are not his fault. but he didn't help any of them.
Look at when Bush jr won. They called him the illegitimate president. Look at the 2006 documentary by Democrats “Hacking Democracy” which was how elections can be rigged and electronic voting machines with tainted software including “Dominion” but yet they forgot about that one.
do you know how they rigged elections in other countries? certainly not by making millions of fraudulent votes. anyway, if the election was rigged we'd have found evidence for it. after 3 years and hundreds and hundreds of investigations by all sorts of ppl, no real evidence has turned up.
Imagine this for a minute;
It has become more important to make drugs available for obesity than making sure our food supply does not make obesity worse.
This is all about who is making money and the American people not realizing they are being played by corporations
And this program/ presenter+guests are doing the bidding for THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN...
That would infringe on my 1st Amendment right to open my mouth no matter what comes out. Or in.
@@RW-ob4en Eat the rich (sauces).
Good point
My grandfather, a WWII vet who also lost a son in Vietnam, died alone of a broken heart at age 97 in a nursing home in Upstate NY because we were not allowed to see him. He got covid in the nursing home from residents/staff, BEAT it, and was STILL not allowed to have family as visitors. I will never forgive that we could not be there with him.
Absolutely ridiculous and unforgivable - im sorry for your loss may his memory be a blessing 🙏🏼
Sorry that happened to you. There was just no reason for it and it was so cruel and unnecessary. This is how atrocities happen people just don’t allow the official line of bullshit to be question and instead follow it blindly. I’m so sorry this happened to you and your family God bless you
Thank you all for your kind words. His name was William Russell Brown of Stottville, NY. He was amazing, and he deserved better. 💕
@@WaveBloomI really appreciate your kind words - thank you so much!
@@alheno5423 I really appreciate your kind words - thank you so much!
"We had no idea"... because we never bothered reading Any of the studies and banned, blocked, censored, removed everyone who tried to tell us...
You didnt have any idea either. Stop the cap. Over time, yes, but they are referring to how it was in the beginning.
@@majinraptor He's referring to how it was in the beginning. There were simple guidelines they followed. If Trump thought it was a good idea or endorsed something, then it should be ridiculed and banned. If Trump didn't support an idea, then that was the correct solution. You were then called a science denier if you dared question.
@@majinraptor within the first month we knew pretty much all the key data points, as outlined in all the early studies and reconfirmed over and over for years. Dispite all of that, had we followed standard medical science advice we would have faired tremendously better. As Jek said, anything trump mentioned was discredited... which includes 90% of all standard medical advice. ... i'm an evolutionary biologist that predicted the exact mutations Omicron had nearly a year in advance based on how mRNA vaccines work. I like most others were deemed "anti-science" by people who've never read a single scientific paper in their lives. We tried to tell everyone, but people like those in this video let their hatred blind them to the point they helped kill untold numbers of people with their shear arrogance.
@@majinraptor clear illustration... rember "deadly horse medicine"?..... its actually one of the worlds safest drugs and has been used to save hundreds of millions of humans. It even won a nobel prize for such use. And has since been found to decrease the severity of covid if used as a prophylactic. Aka, many people suffered because of the shear delusional insanity of the people calling it "deadly horse medicine". And more will in the future because that batsht insane idea that its dangerous is in millions of peoples heads.
@@majinraptorthey went against their own pandemic contingency plans.
We all had access to the same information. Some of us saw through the insanity within weeks. It took these people years. One has to ask: why?
You only had to be responsible for yourself, and maybe 2-4 other people. It is like comparing the largest aircraft carrier in the world to a 2-man rowboat. It beyond your comprehension.
They enjoyed the power, elitist perspective, and genuinely dislike antiestablishment peasants. Some of them had monetary gain as well. Authoritarian cowards. Never forget.
@@kingsbay1You're right. How to cash in on a tragedy after helping to cause it, then grab power, and emerge with impunity is beyond me.
@@CaptainHammerFists Don't get it twisted. On the Left, Right, and Center, they all profited. Misinformation ran intentionally rampant.
They wanted to make some money first. Forgiveness later
I’d like to support and rehabilitate AL Franken before we even talk about Cuomo.
no THIS is a good idea - well said..!!
Also Kathy Hochul is a good governor who can't get any credit because y'all are sexist.
Franken got screwed
Dude Al Franken never did anything wrong. I have seen him on several interviews post resignation
@@mattmccarthy9067 he really did
Accountability over forgiveness. They weren’t prepared to forgive anyone else they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt especially the way they acted.
People get fired from Taco Bell for a lot less but, these type of fools go on causing disaster after disaster with real world consequences, with impunity.
Nearly a million Americans died and you believe they were criminally overly-cautious. Do you truly comprehend how many more deaths would have occurred had they NOT done what they did?!
@@kingsbay1probably less actually. They didn't promote exercise and staying healthy, they promoted staying in your house where you were more likely to catch a virus in recirculated air, masks that we know now they KNEW didn't do anything, and a vaccine that they lied about time and time again. I feel pity that you still believe their lies, but after everything thats happened, we need accountability before forgiveness.
Matt Orfalea has a great take on that.
@@7sons484Not impunity. If only! They got richer, and as we all know, money = truth.
You were wrong but you do not want to pay consequences.
It's funny how the people who had no problem violating our rights during a crisis now want forgiveness on the basis that they were not aware of the science of Covid, even though millions of us tried to tell them at the time, but were called conspiracy theorists or worse.
Nailed it perfect👍
Agreed!
How were your rights violated?
@@davidhutchinson5233 I had to wear a mask against my will, even though we all knew that the science showed the masks were ineffective at slowing the spread of airborne viruses.
@@davidhutchinson5233 The list would be to lengthy for him to post here. Where have you been the last 4 years?
That point about the Stormy Daniels case being a “tactical error” in bringing Trump to justice is dumb when seconds before they are talking about how bad it is that the majority of American people believe that the justice system is politically influenced. The REASON people think that is because of there is too much emphasis in the MEDIA on ulterior motives and end game tactics. The justice system simply needs to be blind and consistent in it’s approach, and the media should constantly remind everyone of that. Period. The average person would not be afforded even 1% of all the allowances that Trump and so many other white collar criminals get through the legal process because of the power, money, and influence they hold. Screw all the concern about the optics of how 4 indictments look to Trump’s base, and just support that a crime is a crime regardless of its severity and needs to be pursued, regardless of who it is. Remind people that Trump will have his days in court and the very high burden of proof is highly on his and any other criminal defendant’s side. That’s how you restore faith in the justice system.
Your take is too complicated and nuanced for bill’s agenda
Would it not have been better to start with the big ones then let the little ones take their bites at him while he was in prison or otherwise facing responsibility for his crimes? By then even many of his base would've been awakened to what they had been mislead to believe about him.
Great comment! Thank you!
I notice in your comment you are basically admitting this is a politically motivated persecution of the orange man. As you said "the REASON people think that is because of there is too much emphasis in the MEDIA on ulterior motives and end game tactics."
If you haven't yet noticed it; the media's purpose is to get you to nod along with everything they present.
However 76% of Americans can smell BS when it's put in front of thier faces. The political persecution of your political opponents is so damaging to a democratic system because it completely undermines democracy and the one thing that makes a democracy possible. Trust in the democratic process.
Yuri Besmenov was not kidding back in the 80's. It's coming true.
I thought the burden of proof lays with the prosecution...
He wants forgiveness. How about accountability first. Go to prison where you belong, then we'll talk about forgiveness.
Prison? For what?
Facts 🫡
@@josecanales2978 Killing people. Beta coronaviruses are well known viruses, viruses that have been causing epidemics in care-homes for decades. This guy, made it policy to put people infected with a SARS type beta coronavirus INTO CARE HOMES.
That's murder.
@@josecanales2978for lying about everythingCOVID related, lying under oath, suppressing free speech, ruining the economy, ruining kids educations. Getting people fired for not complying. All over lies.
Start suing the employers that forced you to get the vaccine
It was clear by June 2020 what we were dealing with. The pageantry went on much longer than it needed to be.
We have been dealing with beta coronaviruses forever (they're older than our species is because even fish can be infected by their own strains of coronaviruses). We have been studying them for decades, the idea that they 'made mistakes' is BS.
Yep. Anyone who pretends they didn't know after that is full of s****
It was clear to me by mid-April. But by June 2020, when Democrats outright said that rioting was safe and acceptable but going to see your family members in their homes was dangerous, should have been the moment the entire country realized that the Democratic party was involved in a vicious slander campaign to destroy the country so they could win a stupid election.
I was living in Europe during CoVid. Watching from afar it looked like pure insanity in the US. Yes, we had lockdowns, distance ed and work, limited hours for shopping etc. We had to carry a form with our information if we were out before or after curfew but never once were we any in my circle asked for that form. We wore masks, washed our hands and when they became available we were vaccinated. Washing groceries? No. Other than the very first week in March 2020 our supermarkets were fully stocked. Bakeries and small retail shops were open. Restaurants were open for delivery. We even traveled by car and plane multiple times. Watching the chaos in the US was surreal.
@@ViFabulous I was living in Italy at the start. I moved home to Canada to be safe. What a joke!
honestly this was very sickening to watch. These people lied and treated people horribly who saw through all the BS they tried to shove down our throats. People lost relationships with family and friends, jobs, and some of them their lives because of what they advocated. NOW they have the gaul to ask for grace and forgiveness?Where was their grace and forgiveness for those that disagreed with them?? Do they really think that an "I'm Sorry" is going to cut it??? GO TO HELL
Did they even say "I'm sorry"? Maybe I missed it. Let's not undersell the crimes of these psychopaths. The tyrannical orders and rampant censorship CAUSED deaths. There would be many more people still living today if information about effective treatments had been allowed to be communicated with the public. Quarantining healthy people was then and is still now a moronic strategy that will not work. It did not work. All it did was make everyone miserable and less healthy.
Andrew Cuomo should be in prison.
And so many people were stuck at home with abusive partners, or unhappy homes, or completely isolated, they couldn't leave or work, and so many ended up with addictions. It's heartbreaking.
This must be the longest overtime ever. Keep it coming.
For real. 17 minutes? Wow. We love it.
@ctrl-shift-run8681 I think Bill extended the conversation cover the Covid topic with Andrew Cuomo. Did you catch the subtleness in Melissa DeRosa's response to Bill mentioning Gov. Hochul? I guess we all have to read her book to get all the juicy details?
double overtime
Yes. Please make 15 minutes+ Overtimes as standard.
Exactly, I could have watched an hour of this
Haha imagine un ironically discussing ‘good governance’ and ‘holding people accountable’ with Andrew Cuomo 😂
I’m a NY’er and Cuomo should have never stepped down. Now we have Hochul whom Cuomo never liked.
TOTALLY!! The man killed how many seniors?
The irony is priceless 🤣
Cuomo trying to get in the good graces again. What a crook. I wished Bill had balls to expose him.
@@bobbyj7546they were already in nursing homes, how long would they have lived anyway?
"we were doing our best"
You were cruel and mean and gave no grace or forgiveness to people who had perfectly reasonable questions
And its still happening.
"No mercy no malice" - Scott Galloways favourite mantra.
No mercy is malice.
@@loveconquerorBS.
There's a time for mercy (when the other guy surrenders and is no longer a threat).
Before then it's stupidity.
Did Jesus have mercy on the Pharisee who, not only never asked for it, but accused him of being demon possessed?
No.
He had it on the rabble who did not know what the Pharisee leadership knew, and on the thief next to him who, first accepted his punishment, and THEN asked for it.
@@el_killorcure - Not sure I completely agree with you, but...your perspective might be correct. Never thought of it that way that Jesus didn't have mercy upon that unrepentant Pharisee but did for the unrepentant bloodthirsty crowd who were plain ignorant. Or worse, they did know and still wanted Jesus murdered, because they had hostility in their hearts towards God. He did pray, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do." Still, I'm going to chew over your opinion. Thanks for offering it.
@@machtnichtsseimann You said yourself they did not know, unlike the leaders who did and still refused him.
Peter himself says again in Acts that the Pharisee did not know (he's talking to a different group, Gamaliel being in said group).
And as Jesus said to the previous group after they threw the cured blind man from the synagoge: "If you were blind, you would be without sin. But because you say you can see, your sin remains".
Thanks for the response!
Not to mention you didn't follow the same rules you forced down people's throats up here in oneida County we said screw your rules then you fined anyone you could of you really did the best you could you would have gave back that money and apologized for being wrong. You did nothing Cuomo I'm glad your gone
One should never make public policy based on changing information! Why should those who never forced anything have to forgive those who refuse to admit they were wrong and harmed those who spoke against it!
If they had just sat back and done nothing - and things got way worse, believe me, people would be mad about that, too. So most took the more extreme approaches as they were generally safer bets. Now that we know how everything worked out, we will be better prepared if it happens again.
@dionysuseros7423 gtfo with that, people had been saying they were wrong for years. Those people who were right the whole time were silenced, vilified, and ostracized from their communities. The decisions they made ruined people's lives, and they have the gaul to stand on their soap box and say, "Have some grace and forgive us". No one should ever in a million years forgive these people. We shouldn't ever forget our govermemt lied to us and manipulated science in an attempt to strip us of our liberties.
@@dionysuseros7423No. You're forgetting The Great Barrington Declaration, signed by thousands of scientific experts, who were subsequently made fun of/were maligned, lost jobs/positions, and were BANNED from most social media. We all had access to the same information, until they BANNED any opposing viewpoints! 🥴
That left the public uninformed. This was NOT informed consent. It was criminal, imo. 😔
People knew what to do from the beginning, just the people in power weren't in possession of that wisdom. It could've gone either way, we just had the awful luck to have the idiots in power. @@dionysuseros7423
“We just ruined everything, whoopsy daisy, oh well whatcha gonna do.”
Exactly, Andy boy is a clown.
reminder: these folks ruined lives and sent people to jail for asking questions or having hesitation. forgiveness is earned, not given, and these clowns didn't do anything to deserve it.
Scott has been anti male for years, he can eat his own dog food.
The people who pushed for these things they now know where wrong need to aknolage they caused harm to others, and then need to apologize and ask for forgiveness. The least is apologizing before expecting forgiveness.
They should be in prison
it was all planned : EVENT 201
Who went to prison?
It’s rich that Scott Galloway wanted harsher lockdowns, ppl to be fired, and he used his position as a *tenured professor* to advocate for those draconian measures…but now he admits “I was wrong” & wants grace & forgiveness.
This is the issue with those asking for grace that they didn’t afford to those during the pandemic with a differing opinion.
Good for him to admitting he was wrong but to pretend the new speaker of the house is Hitler Light is ridiculous.
These people deserve one giant middle finger, and possibly prison.
"I was wrong, but you guys are wrong again for being so mad about it." Screw Galloway, he recants nothing and simply points his finger again.
And he thinks that THIS is the election cycle that we'll see misinformation and weaponization of media platforms in order to influence an election? What a POS. "We were all operating with imperfect information". No. You actively silenced anyone who didn't agree with whatever "science" your side supported.
Took care of both parents in our home during Covid and neither one got it; acquantances put theirs in a nursing home and they passed within a few months from it. Beyond disgusting when some don't treasure the older ("greatest") generation.
"It is hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." - Thomas Sowell
Well, if you know history, it occurs constantly and the rich/powerful rarely pay the price for doing so.
Can we please stop quoting Thomas Sowell, he is part of the problem. That being said, Donald's trials are because of his actions not political motivations.
@@kingsbay1 I apparently don't know history. Would you provide some examples?
@@brentrosencrans3968 the overthrow of the Government of Iran by America, Iran-Contra, Noriega and Panama, Invasion of Iraq Part I(Desert Storm) & Part II(WMD's), Panama Papers Scandal, Tailhook Scandal, Fat Albert Scandal,... Do I really need to go on?!
Governor Cuomo being on Bill Maher and not in jail is a good example.
The public seems to salute corrupt leaders regardless of party. The masses need to judge rightly, not by appearance
They do but their voice is silenced. The criminal dnc did this by committing election fraud in 2016 and 2020, and now they've just gotten rid of primaries or other candidates and changed the order of elections to favour the dementia patient in chief.
judge according to the law
it is a vicious circle in that each side things the best way to fight corruption on the other side is with corruption.
@@FulgriniusSanguimthat's EXACTLY the wrong way to go.
Judge by the law IF THE LAW ISJUST. Did you know it is against the law to feed the homeless in certain areas? That is an example of an UNJUST LAW.
@@loulfw2513 good point, but we aren't talking about homeless people
This overtime is hilarious. Nothing but spin and people asking forgiveness as they blame everyone else for their problems
I dont forgive any of them. They censored the truth and bullied people with fear. They proved they are not fit to lead in a time of need
Same. These people are the reason why so many family members and friends are no longer speaking. They’re the ones who coined the anti vaxx label on people. They encouraged those vaxxed and with masks to assault people who chose not to engage. These people are evil.
Cuomo is the worst.
Correct they aren't but it was on purpose. Look how only 2.4% of the population runs the media, and owns pharma. 2/4 of these folks are in the tiny hat cult, a tiny hat cultist even won nobel prize for the mRNA shots. No cohencidences.
100% now the pharma-facists want a little “grace & understanding”.. sorry😢 about us making you lose your job and small business
Absolutely. And now they try to use the excuse of ignorance! Ignorance should lead people to doubt, not certainty. Dirty, filthy authoritarians.
We were wrong about everything.
The other side was right.
You should still support us because we are good and accidentally got ot wrong and the other side is bad and accidentally got it right. Outcomes aren't important, only intentions are important and we intended to be right.
Australia did covid camps where you had to pay $8.000 to stay for 14 days if you were infected, Austria did prison sentences for the unvaccinated, and they're all getting away with it. I watched my grandmothers funeral on a zoom call
@@glennv3176 Seems like a country I would gladly leave.
@@glennv3176 As an American I was horrified to see what was happening down under. It's hard not to really like Aussies but for the love of God your government are complete scum.
Well said.
@@glennv3176😢😢😢😢
“Americans always do the right thing….after they’ve tried everything else”…
Winston Churchill
What just cause he said it? It’s a huge country with differing opinions, opinion allowed is the whole point.
It's called a joke
Winston Churchill was also a racist war criminal
England was waiting for America to join the fight…we were reluctant after WW1 and the Great Depression.
We also sold England some P38 Lightning, but did not include turbochargers which made that plane deadly.
Brits callled the plane “castrated lightning”
Churchill also blamed Indians for their famine, saying 'They breed like rabbits'.
10:57 people like this exposed how far they are willing to go and there's no coming back from that.
Bill was spot on about the whole “team” thing with the younger people. When I was in college there was just so much vitriol and hatred for saying anything even *slightly* out of line with whatever the crowd said.
I'm still pretty annoyed at all the people who went out and horded thousands of rolls of toilet paper. I came very close to having to use junk mail.
Almost 4 years later I'm still wiping my ass with all the toilet paper I bought. Probably have another 2-3 years left.
I bought one of those ass washing toilet seats. Best purchase I ever made.
I either showered or used a wash cloth
@@victorblock3421thanks for being part of the problem, go away and don't do it again.
@@kitcoffey7194 but what about my bunghole?
The Andrew Cuomo reabilitation tour has begun.
It's the tour that no one asked for and no one wants.
Maybe it's time for the 65 year old sexual harasser to retire.
You can say the same for 45@@Nushka1962
Literally what I was thinking, you take the word out of my mouth, even though I think they do him dirty on that hit job. He is politician and I will never any politician.
I wonder if the clown in California has taken note!
My thought exactly.
No, the information was all there. We will NOT FORGIVE WE WILL NOT FORGET
I been saying for years now that the biggest driver of housing crisis is not greedy investors, it's all the rules and regulations that make it impossible to build anything for less than a million dollars. Then even if you manage to complete all the required applications, the local towns people get together and vote NO to allow the building in their neighborhood, because they know their own homes will keep rising in value when nobody else is allowed to build new ones
It’s also population growth and inflation without a commensurate rise in wages. 30-40 years ago, the average single family home price in the U.S. was 2.5 times the average household income. Today, that multiple is over 4. The amount of habitable land on earth is relatively fixed. Because of the exponential growth curve of the human population, the demand - particularly for single family homes - will exceed the supply - increasing competition and raising prices.
Scott asking for grace - wish we'd seen some of that grace during the pandemic when some "experts" didn't want to hear opposing views.
And in September 2021 we were told we would lose our jobs, and others were advocating to refuse any medical treatment for unvaccinated people. What they were trying to do to us is still unbelievable.
never forget, never forgive, ever
The audience clapped when he said that. Did everyone have Kool-aid when they walked in?
That street cred comment was too funny!😂🤣🤣🤣
It is but I think it demeans the people.. the reason a lot of people support rappers that get arrested is because of a systemic reform that is needed where Blacks that raise their voice against the system are targeted and arrested under false pretenses.. I think it is similar with Trump.. what we should be focusing on is rectifying the system so that no one gets left off
Also, bullshit and kinda racist.
@@roryp7730 "I think it is similar with Trump.."
except trump is the one who is abusing the system.
trump IS the abusive system.
he and the right wing noise machine constantly lied and pretending trump was not a corrupt criminal abusing the government for his own ends.
the folks who support trump because they think he is the victim of a corrupt system are gullible idiots.
Wasnt original here
I mean, it wasn’t _that_ funny, but go on….
The best advert I've seen recently for throwing your TV into a dumpster.
You rolled over Bill. You tucked your tail during this one
God, if this isn’t the truth. Spot on!
He was never on your side.
You could have listened to those of us who said its okay to keep the schools open. Dont try and omit that it was being yelled from every corner of the world by at least 1 person.
Weird flex to be like "I hate masks and only sick people get sick"...we see you. You're not smart.
And the scientists with fact based real science told everyone on Oct 2020 in the Great Barrington Declaration. These scientists proved to be correct. Government scientists were not correct. Control of the population was the governments goal and it wasn't for anyone's health. I'm from Canada and it played out the same way here.
I took care of people in nursing homes doing covid and bill is right most of us are poor if you have to work 60+ hours a week to maintain basic life you are poor quite convenient they glossed over that statement
Where my dad was in California; staff brought in College vid from working at another facility where it killed over half the residents.
And what no one talks about is that many in Black Media originally were saying they were not worried about it; because it was a rich white person's disease.
I heard it on two of the biggest rap music radio stations in LA.
And the "rich travelers" I predicted would infect their poor housecleaners; cooks; drivers; etc; when discussing it with the at risk kids I worked with.
The people who we hire to take care of our parents since we're too busy aren't paid enough. They won't take time off from work if they get sick. They can't afford to. Do they even have "vacation time" or "sick time"? PT employee don't. So, you go to work....the money is what matters. People with the all the gold win....work hard kids!
The pay is terrible and the job isn’t great. Here in Florida. They pay $10 an hour to work in a nursing home. It’s not a livable wage.
The black nurse who lived next door me. That she wasn’t gonna get Covid because it was a rich white persons disease she partied and had tons of people over throughout the pandemic, spreading Covid like wildfire. @@craigbritton1089
@@HH-gv8mxgenerally speaking that is about what it was twenty years ago for someone to come in the person house
Love you Bill, going all the way back to when you were doing standup only. But starting with Politically Incorrect when you got people with different views to sit down for Civil Discussions; you won my heart. Thank You so much for all the good times watching
Bill please bring people in their 20s on your show you desperately need more people my age to give our opinion as well
And it’s not “ would you do things differently”, it’s how quickly you would respond to changing data. The only “science” being followed in 2020 was political science.
mask mandates and vaccines were not political until he right made them political as part of their antiscience agenda.
Cuomo is working so hard to reestablish himself and twist the public perception of him. He groped two women not 11…. Facts! He did a couple wrong things during Covid with the elderly and nursing homes… I mean he was the only one dealing with a massive number infections all by himself since the president and the federal government were nowhere to be found. It’s OK that he made serious mistakes. It was a Pandemic for F sake!!!
Trump had no idea what to do. At least he tried.
This is exactly the issue. Both sides were more concerned with their parties beliefs than what the data was showing us.
@@Chris-os5zdand the data didn't favor democrats policies.
Really good overtime!
The longer the better!
Longer is normally better, but not with a liar monopolizing the time. I really don't want to hear a BS artist, try to spin his reputation.
… that’s what she said
@@deborahfreedman333there are two right wing Israel apologists and Warmongers and a corrupt disgraced governor and his clever mistress.
I could do with less.
But the left was abandoned by Maher years ago
it was awful
We will NEVER forgive and forget. We were socially ostracized, economically broken, publicly shamed and fired, despite being COMPLETELY CORRECT. Our nation will feel the economic effects of this for at least a decade, and our culture was perhaps irreparably pushed toward a neighbor vs neighbor surveillance state. Our core principles were trod into dust, and we were shamed for sticking to them.
👏👏👏 and we are still not allowed to speak openly of these things. They can all go to Hell.
This is the panel of “no responsibility.” Nothings our fault.
So, Cuomo's excuse for messing up his covid response was, I didn't know what I was doing.
I mean he even wrote a whole book basically stating he was the only one who knew what he was doing 😂
The real issue is that these people refused to look at the facts. It was known early on that Covid was not a threat for young adults/children. You can’t claim to have worked with the information that you had when you refused any information that you didn’t like.
He did his best with the information that was there at the time. This was a novel coronavirus that we were all trying to figure out as we went along. You can’t Monday morning quarterback these things
@@RocStarr913 - EVERYONE knew from the beginning that the elderly were most at risk and young adults/children were extremely low risk. This was only “Monday morning quarterbacking” for those who refused the facts.
@@Chris-os5zd Young adults and children still could spread the virus though.
So, they were wrong and oh well, and vote for who we tell you in the next election. Wow.
Exactly
Was watching this on Dave Smiths podcast, just dropping by to see the comments calling these folks idiots. Keep up the great work, commenters
A lot of teachers did not want to be in there because kids could spread it and they ok and teachers got sick. Ppl forget all the context of the situation
"I was wrong. We were all operating off of imperfect information, but we were doing our best"
Ok sure, and also vilifying literally anyone who disagreed with your prescriptions to the event and snootily looking down on them as some form of intellectually and morally superior ass only to turn around and say "oh, well, oops?"
The people who turned out to be right at the start of covid are no different that those who made missteps. No one knew what was going on. The only difference is the latter group turned out to be lucky in their choices.
That argument that Newsome, Cuomo and all the other lib governors are now making only works lack any common sense. It was obvious early on that Fauci and the CDC were lying. Even if you knew nothing about communicable diseases, you could see that what they were telling the public didn't make sense. Should've been a give away when they shut everything but it was okay to go riot and loot business's
Yeah, I remember when the mayor of NYC wanted to shut things down, to slow down the spread, and Cuomo prevented it, and bullied anyone who dared disagree.
@@ArtBabbitt the difference is the group that was wrong spent the time acting smug about it only to be proven idiots.
If you feel so "snootily looked down upon", maybe you should stop and remember that Covid wasn't about your ego, or a politician's self-importance, or whose feelings got hurt, but it was an unprecedented emergency, and no one was really sure how to handle it. Maybe everything in this society doesn't have to be about John Q. Public feeling looked down on. Maybe.
This Overtime was a treat. It didn't feel rushed and the discussion was top notch. Thanks!
The worst I've ever watched tbh. Truly unbearable
That tap water must have lead in it if you think it was a treat! Lol next you’ll say you worship cuomo! Lol
With Cuomo?
Low Standards.
it was awful
11:32 "Lets show a little Grace and forgiveness" Wow you have some balls!
POS' they censored the dissenters. They called them fringe docs and anti science. They are at fault. Never forgive 10:59.
What about the teachers during Coivid? Who teaches the kids when the teacher comes down with Coivid? In one day, 7 teachers cane down with covoid at my grandsons school. Who looks after the kids then?
This was the comment I was looking for. Yeah kids were less likely to have serious issues or die from covid but that didn't mean their teachers weren't at risk.
Maybe if teachers were paid better there would be a plethora of young people stepping into the role.
They want grace for making bad decisions but don’t admit/apologize for not allowing other points of view to be heard during that time period to avoid making those same bad decisions.
The height of hypocrisy... Sad, but predictable.
I mean to be fair, you have to be somewhat unilateral and quick with decision making when lives are potentially that much on the line. There was a time and place to start drilling more into the consensuses with Covid, but it was not when it first started and we needed quick action.
The problem is most of those other points of view were dead wrong, coming from frauds looking to make money, and were dangerous to public health. eg. the numerous frauds trying to push anti-parisiticals as a cure for a virus.
THIS!
@@shortyragsGiven a year and a half later, the Biden administration attempted to get tens of millions of people fired from their jobs for not taking an experimental vaccine with less than a year of testing, sorry, it’s well beyond just the first few months. We knew what COVID was then, and the vaccine (as Pfizer in admitted to European Parliament) never slowed the spread or was even tested to do so.
This goes well beyond the first few months, but first few, Cuomo knew what he did and he was celebrated by the media for it. There has to be retribution on people like Andrew Cuomo, and should be thrown in jail for the rest of his life. It’s why with some of Trump’s legal troubles that Cuomo has been somewhat defending him because he knows that if he doesn’t and Trump is reelected, Cuomo is one of the first to get arrested. Cuomo knows the value of buttering up Trump hoping it may spare him in case Trump is sworn in in 2025.
Galloway is not asking, he's DEMANDING forgiveness, and he's not even offering accountability.
There cannot be forgiveness without accountability.
No Scott, you get no grace, no forgiveness. You shouldn't be in charge of anything. It was revealed that you have the heart of a tyrant and if something happens again in the future your 'go to' response will again be tyrannical.
The same holds for others of Scott's ilk.
He, and they, no matter how sincerely fearful have no right to violate the Rights of others.
Here in Pennsylvania we had people who were infected sent back to nursing homes. We had 300% deaths in these facilities.
I watched all the residents die, and the staff, and another full facility again, and another staff, and a third time, and they left the people who were still there with no employees.
It was unbelievable
And this happened across the country
We had to go to the courts to get the actual numbers because they were saying zero people in my town died and we had over 20,000 in our town die in these places.
They are STACK AND PACK TILL YOU DIE
Noone cares about you if you are in one of these places.
I had my lawyer tell me she was taking care of her mother in her house and she was never sending her to one of them.
I was shocked to see her set up her front room with a hospital bed and the equipment.
I had not seen a rich person who took care of the older family member if they didn't have to.
Same here in NY
Never got it, never saw anyone who did look particularly sick.
Did your governor also lie about the number of deaths? Did your governor write a book (using state employees and resources) in the middle of the pandemic telling everyone how great he was doing? Is your Governor corrupt too? Cuomo is loathsome.
@@dimitar297well if you didn't see it with your own eyes it must not have existed
@@dimitar297 That was the same with me and then I finally got it in March this year. Unfortunately I did get really sick and it was pretty inconvenient. It was just like having the Flu for a week. And then I could feel it when I would be lifting or on the treadmill for about a month. That little bit of weakness that lingered. Really just the same as a flu for me. To be fair I guess I could have had the flu and Covid at the same time. It was Flu season.
Thank you for this insightful interview w NY heroes Gov. Cuomo & Melissa deRosa. I thought you kept it balanced & fair, other than hammering down on the nursing home issue. All guests spoke superbly, & KUDOS to you, Bill Maher, for being a journalist of integrity!
Cuomo is a NY hero to you? He's another corrupt, Corporate Dem pushing horrible Republican policies to gullible liberals. People like Cuomo can sell torture to liberals, like Obama (rectal for e feeding) and child separations at the border (Obama laid that foundation).
"NY heroes" this guys policy literally killed people through out covid
There was "no grace & forgiveness" given to those of us that DIDN'T succumb to the pressure of getting jabbed. They were wrong & should be apologizing for their treatment of us that actually questioned the ever-changing advice of CV19.
I don’t feel sorry for these people. To not want to be proactive In the middle of what was a pandemic and an international health crisis is absolutely selfish and people deserve their karma
We all had the same information to start with. These fascists just went for the power grab, that's all. Every time they were challenged or proven wrong, they doubled down, censored, and threatened to lock people up for disagreeing with them. They tased and arrested people for walking their dogs or taking their kids to the park. They filled skateparks with sand. What they have done is unforgivable and to appear meek and remorseful now is a slap in the face to those they intentionally harmed.
When somebody uses the term jabbed, which I don’t know why just bothers me, you can tell where they’re coming from. These are the same people who like to insult everybody by calling them sheep. Sheep, jabbed, be original. Baaaaa!
The two comments above is why I give no “grace or forgiveness.” Even after all the facts show you and the dems were wrong you still show vitriol and discontent. You get no grace, all those in charge need to be help accountable.
Alright, since you're apparently so phenomenally demoralized that you hate the **language** used more than the idea that your overlords lied to you and were completely wrong, I'll be original. How bout "you're a hopelessly propagandized and utterly servile political pawn." Better? @@mariaradosta3490
I was physically assaulted and went to the hospital for broken ribs. I was beat up really bad, my eye was black and swollen to the size of a grapefruit, I had scrapes and bruises all over my body. My entire side were they kicked me in my ribs over and over again was purple. I was in so much agony. The doctors didn't bother looking into my ribs, they were more concerned with covid. They tested me three times and three times the results showed no covid. Then they said they think it's covid and suggested I go home to quarantine myself.
I said "what about my ribs?" And he said "there's nothing we can do about your ribs." He still insisted I go home, but I demanded an x-ray so he just wrote me a prescription for morphine and told me to go see a specialist...
When you hear about all the cases please keep in mind that I'm included in those statistics even though I didn't have it.
Well, yeah, the more patients hospitals said had covid, the more money they received.
"fractured ribs secondary to COVID"
@@jabberwookkeeYou may recall. He didn't have covid. Like many who were recorded as having it or had been recorded as having died from it. The financial incentives produced huge false statistics. America had the highest fatality rates in the world. According to the statistics.
As Mark twain said. " there are lies, damned lies, and statistics"
Horrible, at the least x ray and showed how to take care of it along with some medicine; and what ‘ specialist’ were you supposed to see? Sorry about you being disrespected!! I watched so many’ docs’ around the world talking about what worked and how to handle it.. most of them black listed and fired for not going with the main narrative!
thnk u for speaking up. we need to hear it from everyone who was mistreated as u were.
Anyone remember when Bill Maher told Stormy Daniel's attorney that he was Presidential candidate material? I do.
CNN were gushing over Michael Avenatti saying he could be the next Prez. He stole from Stormy and was sent to prison. Stormy ended up owing Trump court costs which makes him one of the few people who can say he slept with a stripper and she paid him.
Classic. Shows you the judgement of morons like Maher who fall for anyone willing to tell them what they want to hear... can you say Liz Chaney
Oh, Michael Avenati. He was sentenced for 14 yrs for tax fraud.
That didn't age well
Everyone was saying that
Even those idiots on the View
On a segment, Bill made fun of himself for that view. He even pulled out an Avenatti 2020 gag t-shirt as a joke.
Interesting. You are concerned about children being out of school during Covid. What about the adults that were there to teach them. If they were all sick who would have been in the schools to teach them? That is why the schools were shut down. Kids do not teach themselves.
I can't believe that guy has the gall to show his face in public again. Narcissism is a hell of a drug.
Melissa says "There will be another pandemic and we have to learn from this one so we do it better the next time". Do what better? Nothing should have been done in the first place. I like how the audience claps like a bunch of trained seals.
This comment is so absolutely ridiculous. If a hemorrhagic fever virus ever become airborne with a deathrate equal to or above 50%+ the bubonic plague / black death during middle ages Europe governing bodies would defiantly have to do something
Right.. and now pandemics are like.. just a casual thing.. like menstrual cycles.. hell as long as faucci is out of thr government and retired.. don't expect any pandemics too soon..
They for some reason seem to be planned nicely.. like every 100 years
Interesting tap-dance around Bill's original question about why NY was the only state that did not test patients for COVID before transferring them to a nursing home from a hospital. Cuomo launched into a history of what the thinking was at the time about the origins of COVID (China to Europe to US) and the a detailed description of the types of reporting and tracking his administration did on the deaths of hospital vs. nursing home patients. But no answer as to why NY, unlike all the other states, did not test the patients. And then Bill decided it was the economically disadvantaged staff that "walked it in" and Cuomo was only too happy to agree with that assessment of why so many elderly died from COVID in nursing homes.
Coumo was correct in how Covid came to his state! New York has a very Popular International Airport!
Our State of Ga had an International Flight from Italy come in with a Covid Infected American, who spread Covid and died 2 weeks after he got Covid due to lack of Hospital staff and supplies!
Exactly! That's why I don't understand the people on here talking about Cuomo's straight-shooting NY style. He's just another dodge and deflect politician but with a NY accent.
"But no answer as to why NY, unlike all the other states, did not test the patients"
not exactly.
first he said they were tested.
or more accurately when asked if they weren't tested he said that was wrong.
then he went further and said he got assurances by the homes that they would treat the patients in ways that would prevent the spread of the disease to other residents.
iow, they were dumping off ppl who had recovered enough that they thought wouldn't be infectious to private organizations who had promised to handle the problem themselves, in order to keep hospital space open for new serious patients.
i'm not quoting him exactly, but that's what he SAID in the video above.
idk if he's lying about all this, and for me, trusting private nursing home corporations to treat their residents responsibly doesn't seem like a very good idea.
otoh, NYC was one of the major centers for covid infection because of international travel.
they were gonna get creamed by covid no matter what they did.
Cuomo and his health commissioner killed my father in law.
@@victorblock3421 No, he did not. Did he go in and smother him w his pillow? The staff wearing 10 day old PPE was not conducive to stop the spread. Jared Kushner was holding PPE that we taxpayers bought for his own stockpile. The WH didn't want to share w *blue states*. They were on their own and bidding against the government to purchase PPE. I guess Coumo is responsible for not having enough ventilators and people died while the WH was sitting on yet another stockpile.
I love how they all are like I would do Covid all differently but no don’t hold me accountable in any way
They ask for grace for their poor judgements during the early stages of COVID, but they showed zero grace towards those who thought differently at the time, they claimed anyone who thought differently were literal killers who would spread the virus, they maliciously claimed that if you opposed lockdowns/masking/school closures that you wanted to kill grandma, and they’ve yet to apologize to the people they callously treated when the “science” wasn’t set in stone.
@matttrembley8584 Perfectly said!
I think they said they were accountable; and would do things differently: and since people always fight the last war; the next one may be spread by touch and affect kids
And most respiratory illnesses affect children and the elderly; so I am tired of ignorance from people who know next to nothing.
@@craigbritton1089that's the silver lining here, for how ill prepared we were to handle covid on every level, fortunately the virus itself wasn't as bad as it could have been. Whatever may come out of the jungle next could be several times worse and if that's true we're likely done for. I thought it would take a much more powerful plague to hurt the nation on varying levels as much as covid did. So it's just a matter of when, not if it happens.
@@BigBadJerryRogers I believe the death of 1.13 million Americans was quite significant.
I always admire the man who says I was wrong without making excuses.
Not a Republican for sure!
What man is that? Not Cuomo.
They literally both made excuses.
Cuomo is responsible for maliciously killing thousands of elderly people. Unlike the other states, Cuomo got unique aid from the feds where they sent the Mercy Ship and set up a rec center for Cuomo to house the elderly with COVID, and he said “thanks but no thanks” knowing it would lead to thousands of deaths, and he didn’t give a shit because he couldn’t bare the thought of Donald Trump getting good press.
If Barrack Obama was still President and did everything Trump did during the beginning of COVID, Cuomo would have gladly accepted the aid that he didn’t with Trump. This makes Cuomo a murderer. Rehabilitating Andrew Cuomo is like trying to rehabilitate Adolf Eichmann. No, he should get the fucking chair and was easily the worst offender during COVID after Fauci, the CCP, and Randi Weingarten.
So no American politicians
Nearly 2,000 American teachers died from COVID but the stance of this panel is that we should have sacrificed even more teachers in order for schoolchildren to have in-person classes? That's is literally what the one panelist was saying when he said keeping children in school was worth the risk.
OMG. Your panel is oblivious to their role in everything you discussed. Not one of them took accountability for their choices and who they voted for.
No accountability and they never apologized. But we should forgive and show grace? No.
Right!
True accountability includes an acknowledgement of the wrong(s) done, along with a good faith assurance that what was done will never be done again. In this case, fines and jail time would be nice, but... I've lived long enough to know that will never happen. Nor will an apology, or true accountability.
The businesses and "special" interests involved are not only "too big to fail" but "too big to own mistakes." They are also "too powerful to be stopped when they deliberately affect generations of people simultaneously in the most deleterious way possible."
Despite what they say now, "We didn't know," "Our information was spotty!" or "It was so new!" Don't believe it. They very much DID know. They wanted to sell more Lysol, Purell, and Clorox wipes. And MASKS, don't forget the masks!
oh.. you NEED chants of "lock him up!" as if that fixed anything..
Except people were shouting YOU were doing it wrong…and you called them idiots and censored them 🤮🤮
As always we are supposed to give them the grace that they couldn't manage to muster for people who knew they were doing stupid distructive sh*t.
Exactly, I’m not giving grace to those who destroyed our economy and berated those who tried to move forward.
I am sooo very glad you're back, Bill. Once again I can go to sleep smiling instead of wanting to cry into my pillow. 😺
You have every reason to cry if you voted for Biden, became a guinea pig and injected an experimental drug into your body, and consider the people on this show intelligent and grounded. Cry away
Sounds like you have a crush on Bill.
@@Rock-gr8me No, I appreciate erudite commentary.... unlike you juvenile comment.
He's been back three weeks! Why does everyone act like this is the first show in months?
Cuomo couldn’t answer that question more politically
Andrew Cuomo and Michael Cohen calling out Trump's behavior is really laughable. Why not ask Michael Avenatti what he thinks? They are all on the same team.
No forgiveness for any of these people who feel they knew better ..they still feel they know better!! The fact that Cuomo feels the right to judge anyone says it all!
Lmao imagine saying they media for the entire year lying about trump isn’t interfering
We were doing our best with the information we had at the time with the Covid. In the real world there is something called accountability. Imagine all small business owners who lost everything while big business flourished. That answer was a typical lefty whan whan answer if I ever heard one. Mr Galloway mentioned on a previous show on how it was terrible for young men to work from home because they needed to know how to read a room. Where do you think that trend started from Scott ?
We do not forgive. We will not forget.
Justice awaits you. She knows no favor.
I'd like to ask the former governor about the people who died from COVID who were forced into nursing homes after procedures which normally would have been allowed to go to their own homes.
The main culprits admit they where wrong and demand forgiveness from their victims because they could not have known any better at that point of time - pathetic!
They DID know better. ALL of the studies the media itself presented to back their lies actually confirmed the exact opposite of what the news media claimed. I read them.
My God just seeing Cuomo the Gaslighter makes my skin crawl. Shame on you Maher this clip is puke.
Maher is that old guy who sits in his front yard and shakes his fist at those damn kids
Except he's funnier than that old guy!
Yes, he just lacks Clint Eastwoods charm, looks and ability…
@@jeromesullivan4015 He doesn't lack Clint's looks lately!
Not even close. More likely to invent them over for a few tokes.
Re nursing homes and the system of in-home and congregate caregiving facilities we have across the nation. Bill has a point about how ridiculously poorly we staff those who care for our most vulnerable (including the intellectually / developmentally disabled). Underpaid, undertrained, overworked, under-protected, underappreciated until a big event like COVID happens and we see how broken the systems already were.
When i was in a nursing home the head (i.e., only) nurse told me “The system is broken” almost proudly, to explain my problems in getting my insurance to do me right.
The Feds sent the Mercy Ship and set up a rec center for New York. Unlike every other governor in the United States, Cuomo doesn’t have this excuse. He is a uniquely vile offender during COVID.
Absolutely. I've ran nursing facilities and hospitals, and the amount of work that is expected from nursing home staff is unreal. Hospital nurses wouldn't stand a chance. I blame it on the corporate side that dominates nursing homes. The for-profit medical system is destroying any chances of fixing our terribly broken and greedy elderly care system. Got to get the shareholders as far away from nursing homes as possible. They only care about numbers, low for staff and high for patients is their game, and WE ALL LOSE.
In the case of IDD group homes or adult foster care, the reimbursement rates from Medicaid are too low for some to stay in business as costs rise, accept high needs individuals, find and retain adequate staff, etc. In order to close the gap, some families are buying homes, converting them for licensable congregate care, and leasing them at cost to service providers (under condition of taking and never expelling their children / adult children).
@jaspdx63 Not necessarily. The reason IDD and group homes are that way is because of the corporate businesses that pocket the profits instead of paying staff better. I've ran or worked with about every type. The ID and group homes I encountered paid their staff very little, yet the companies did very well. Medicaid probably does need more funds, but also the question of waste comes up too. Profit shouldn't be in medicine, that's what makes it all a bit worse. Only ones who should profit are those who actually do the work.
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The problem is not that the made decisions on wrong information. The problem is that they thought the people doing different were ignorant and racist. So why do they deserve "grace and forgiveness" when they called people names for being more mesured in their response.
"The problem is that they thought the people doing different were ignorant and racist."
well, they WERE.
the real problem is they thought the ignorance and racism were the reason the ppl were doing different things.
seriously, when you have antiscience nuts- an entire fcking political party of them- spreading disinformation about masks and vaccines, or horse dewormers and sht,, and refusing to social distance, and being absolute Karens over the simple courtesy of wearing a mask, then it's easy to discount them as ignorant and not look at how they are handling things.
exactly
They can screw off.
But Asian hate crime! How dare you say it came from China!
Such political hacks!
I once said "shutting down the economy is terrible for the economy" and was labeled a far right conspiracy theorist. Tf?
Galloway identifies the big issue about election interference, but is not aware of the Twitter Files.
Scott took that "you need to smile more" advice really to heart.
Hindsight is always 20/20 and it is easy to Monday morning QB. I am still most disappointed in how the majority of covid beliefs and concerns became political.
Dems Traded their country for a Mask ....
Except it wasn’t Monday morning quarterbacking when the data showed our elderly and those with specific comorbidities were at the greatest risk. Cities like NY refused these facts and continued to enforce strict policies that everyone knew wasn’t doing anything to help. Of course I would argue the media was much more to blame than our politicians.
We knew from the beginning that kids were very low risk and the elderly were high risk. What we did went against our own pandemic contingency plan that stated life continues as normal but protect the high risk individuals. We locked everything down in the name of politics.
When acting with imperfect info during covid, taking a rigid, hard-line stance one way or another, without being flexible, is NOT doing the best you could. That is called gambling and getting it wrong!
so glad you had Andrew on....Ty!
My question is how can you provide grace to people who can't admit that they were wrong? What is there to forgive. Its not like there was no legitimate criticism of the policies, its just the legitimate criticism were censored out of fear. There was the unquestionable belief that people don't have the ability to make decisions about their own health and safety.
excusing each other for trusting known liars.?? it's like they just opened their eyes when it was convenient...
Yes Trump's a known liar but he was the president so they had to assume he was getting good info.
Finally Bill!!!! You should recap the Covid thing like this more often. Don’t be quite so down on science. The science gets thrown
into the political realm sadly out of necessity. But as things unpredictably play out, science is held in contempt, not politicians.
There has to be a standard. Otherwise it’s a holes getting their “information” from Reddit
The biggest science error was Fauci not realizing that COVID was much easier to be transported in the air. A misprint in old research was off by a factor of ten.
If he was not so soloed in his specialties: he would have known as many did; that air pollution research showed that the research Fauci relied on was wrong.
Which is why all scientific research needs to be replicated; and experts ( or even generalists) in other silos consulted.
For Real Time, he really needs a particular type of guest where he can get into it in any meaningful way. So many different states ( and countries ) did their reporting differently, New York was very different to Florida. On his podcast, he makes your point much more often; that science is only as good as our understanding of it at present is, when new data arrives.. need to update our thinking. Scientific progress is I think the main term.
But you are right in that science has become political, whether covid, evolution, creationism, climate change... it's bad to see but has actually been an aspect of science for a long long time ( if look at religion and politics)
When statistics came out ok Covid showing 50 year olds having mortality rate at 1%. Told two friends. One was elated and was booking a flight that week, the other one decided to stop going outside for another 6 months. Same information, wildly different actions.
The science was basically manipulated by politicians and government officials to fit a narrative. Pretty much like they always do.
"The science" isn't a thing.
Fans of the show know that well.
@11:11 "We were operating with imperfect information ("all of which was mostly wrong") and did the best we could."
American People: "Let's keep voting for the same system - that'll solve it!"
We would not forget how many died in the hands of that governor.
And that President Trump Reptile!
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I'm shocked he had him on.....not a good look. I use to look forward to this show. Now not so much, Bills ego, and biases are shown more and more as he gets older.
@@CLee-hx8mx You better off now ?? Lie to me the 13 Gold Star Families want to know ....
@@rickandteribedell4350I wholeheartedly agree. Those that we disagree with and those we perceive as doing wrong should never be heard from again.
Cudos to this Galloway fella for admitting he was wrong.
Wrong?? How many senior citizens did Cuomo kill? He shuffled old people with Covid into nursing homes!!! By trying not to be "racist" against China, New York and New Jersey alone accounted for 35% of all Covid deaths in the US at the beginning of the pandemic. Get that idiot off the stage.
He didn't admit he was wrong when he compared Mike Johnson to the KKK not realizing Johnson had a black son. He's horrible
@@sobfatrickYeah, I had second hand embarrassment for him there 😂
That's how adults operate. They work with the best information from the most trusted sources and try to make as good of a decision as possible. Then if it doesn't happen to be exactly correct you take that into consideration for the next similar instance and point out what could have been done differently. What you don't do is pay attention to a bunch of crackpots with little to no evidence, expertise, or consensus from reputable sources. There's a reason that COVID 19 was called a coronavirus and that's because nobody knew precise what we were dealing with, especially at the beginning. Yes, we probably did overreact but not knowing how serious it was that's the only rational move and I only hope we don't forget that the next time something like this inevitably pops up. Unfortunately, I feel like we'll have learned and put into practice too much of the wrong ideas based on an irrational way of looking at the situation.
He's brilliant. Forthright. Self-aware. I'd encourage anyone to find his commentary and presentations on CZcams and other sources. Start with his appearance on the Modern Wisdom podcast with Chris Williamson.
They panicked while some of us stayed calm.
Grace and forgiveness? That works both ways.
Yes. As Bill alluded to, the younger generation, brought up on the cell phones, is lost in the abyss of "passive-aggressive" fake emotivism. As a result, reason gets short changed, and that leads to all sorts of bad outcomes.
It is funny that the people who told us that the US rigs elections in other countries are telling us they don’t do it anymore
Cuomo never answered the question about Covid. he just changed the entire narrative and created strawmen to cover for his total and complete incompetence. He blew it and under no circumstances would he answer for that.
He is not man enough to admit he blew it. The piles of New York dead, they are not his fault. but he didn't help any of them.
@@paulcolburn3855yea. WHY didn’t they test them?
@@21972012145525on iraq?!?!?!? Well I understand right now 😮😢
Look at when Bush jr won. They called him the illegitimate president. Look at the 2006 documentary by Democrats “Hacking Democracy” which was how elections can be rigged and electronic voting machines with tainted software including “Dominion” but yet they forgot about that one.
do you know how they rigged elections in other countries?
certainly not by making millions of fraudulent votes.
anyway, if the election was rigged we'd have found evidence for it.
after 3 years and hundreds and hundreds of investigations by all sorts of ppl, no real evidence has turned up.