LET'S ARGUE: The Beatles Are Overrated!
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People have been saying the Beatles are overrated since punk rock in the 70s. It's nothing new.
Peter Kaminsky yeah they are
People just want to say something that they think is new or cool...
bound by destiny no it’s because they are shit
Mustache 577 thats like your opinion man.
Joshua Ardaiz Lim lmao
Melon you’ve been wearing that shirt for three days.
Changethony Shirtano
Kolot The Mellon may be showing a sign, that he isn't going to be here for long.
It's Death, so it's worth it. Besides there's this wonderful invention called a Washing Machine.
Maybe he only wears it for the videos he made. But still suspect
Maybe he recorded it all on the same day and released it on different days to keep us invested
Shakespeare can’t write and Michelangelo can’t paint. Am I edgy yet?
Nicht von dieser Welt they started as one of the best pop bands of their time, and turned to one of the most important and influential bands of all time while continuing to make even better music
@Nicht von dieser Welt seriously? fuck off you are sick
then, they heard bob dylan and then started writing more 'serious' lyrics.
they heard the byrds and changed their style to reflect the folk-rock movement this would be the rubber soul-revolver era of the beatles.
roger McGuinn saw george harrison was playing a rick guitar. McGuinn got a rick. he made innovations to the guitar changing the way it sounded. then, george harrison started playing the rick like McGuinn. frank zappa did an album called freak out. it inspired McCartney to wnat to make a 'psychedelic' album. McC even contacted zappa about the matter. while recording sgt. pepper they listened to pet sounds. paul McC has said the most perfect song he ever wrote was 'here, there and everywhere'. he said he did not write it, it just flowed out of him. he said it was his attempt to write a beach boys song.in CA girls the bb mention girls from different regions of the usa. mike love was present when john and/or paul were writing back in the ussr. love suggested that they mention girls from different regions of russia. thus the song has backing vocals like the bb. ringo starr can NOT sing. after the release of harrison's dark horse album critics called his singing abilities 'dark hoarse.' harrison never wanted to become a singer prior to the group. he could not sing. john lennon has one of the worst voices ever; it is all nasally. paul can sing and he can write VERY melodic music. his lyrics HOWEVER are pretty much just silly love songs. the beatles generally did not write personal songs. every so often they did, but it was the exception and not the rule. they generally wrote generic love songs which is one of the reasons they were popular. their lyrics can not compare to those of the (early) who, the kinks, the velvet underground, the doors, etc.
well into their careers the beatles were still writing, recording silly songs such as yellow submarine, octopus's garden, for the benefit of mr. kite (inspired by a circus poster) , good morning, good morning (inspired by a breakfast cereal commercial), lucy in the sky with diamonds (inspired by a children's drawing) and i am the walrus which was gibberish cobbled together by lennon from 3 songs he could not finish. also, side 2 of abbey road is rubbish; consisting of songs they could not complete.
Michael Sieger Shakespeare is a bunch of cheesey overdramatic soap opera bulshit. Michaelangalo is decent, but overrated. Rapheal is my favorite turtle.
The Beatles recording career was 7 years..... absolutely mind blowing!
No they had been recording since the 50s but they broke in 1962
@@idontcareanymore7988 ''Please Please me' to 'Let it be' is 7 years. Nobody counts the bits and pieces recorded prior to that.
@@andymac2935 they were still recording though
Just unsuccessfully
@@idontcareanymore7988 Can you name any band that's been successful before recording an Album? Serious question.
The first 5 minutes were pretty interesting but then you started to read out of Hitlers "Mein Kampf" while crying tears of joy.
Smorfar joys of tear 😂😂
Classic melon
Smorfar damn, Im unsubbing after that one!
The worst parte was at 8:49 when he beat his wife, pretty nasty stuff
This was the best comment I've ever read of this kind
NECKTHONY BEARDTANO
lol upvoted
the Beatles can't be rated high enough and i'm not even that big of a fan.
the Beatles are one of the worst bands of all time. sorry, just facts.
Vlad G nirvana**
Yes, they're actually underrated.
Vlad G good bait my boi
The Beatles arent even the best band to come from the British Invasion. *The Who*
Beatles overrated?.. a bit late for that assessment aren't we, considering EVEN TO THIS DAY (50 years since they broke up) every band is measured to them
That speaks more to a cultural brainwashing than rather than being a legitimate testament to any greatness on part of the band.
Nothing Really The Beatles are the greatest band ever, even a new born baby knows that, It’s like a fact
Pavle Grebenarević The only thing an infant or toddler really knows besides instinct is what is told to them, so yes, if you instruct the ignorant that The Beatles are the best, they will probably begin to believe it. I agree.
@@nothingreally6680 I see what you're trying to say, but mostly I think you're intellectually taking the easy way out. There's no bourgeoisie round table of upper class white men sitting around dictating what becomes culturally significant despite what some seem to believe (not saying you do)... especially in art. There are tangible and observable reasons why The Beatles are what we've been "brainwashed" to believe, even if you don't like them.
@@2ndsebringsucks yeah just like how people bring up Tupac Shakur as the greatest rapper of all time but in reality there were Mc's better than him during the golden era of hip hop and how people think he was the goat and it's because of the media shoving it down our throat's
Your toes: worst to best
Hugh James McKenna wtf
On the road doin ten toes like my toes
Love this
best comment
His teeth worst to best
Opinion- Bobby Shmurda is the greatest rapper ever and the goverment is secretly holding him back so he doesn’t become too much of a powerful influence
Best music moment in history was when Shmurda whipped his hat in the air and broke out into the shmoney dance in the music video hot nigga
Lavar Ball #BBB #StayInYoLane ROBERT MURDER IS A POLITICAL PRISONER
*Fact
Lavar Ball #BBB #StayInYoLane FAX
"I've been selling crack since like the fifth grade" was clearly a metaphor for systematic oppression of underprivileged communities and was not incriminating in any way.
Trent Reznor has been killing it with soundtracks lately, so I do not think his creativity has diminished, just focused in other ventures.
This
Same can be said for Mark Mothersbaugh
Even his albums and EPS have been great, but people who grew up with NIN don‘t like his change of sound, they‘re still great records if they were given more of a chance
The Beatles were the first band to do stadium concerts, and are the originators of music videos as we know them today. Albums such as Revolver and Sgt. Peppers were revolutionary, employing radical new recording techniques which influenced music for all decades to come. They brought music to the mainstream in terms of it being a mainstay of popular culture. Their importance cannot be understated.
k cool but I still don't like it that much. like I can acknowledge their influence and historical importance and still not love their music
Jailhouse rock wasn't the first music video?
@@joaquinlezcano2372 That was in a film. Not a promotional video, a concept The Beatles came up with after they stopped touring to be in the studio more.
@JAY CHROM3 it means I don't like it, what else is a fucking opinion supposed to mean
@JAY CHROM3 i don't like them because i do not enjoy listening to their music. that's it.
Black face, Anthony? Really?
Unforgivable
I thought it was tastefully done
We need more pioneers like this in this stale comment section
It's edgy AF
film79 no its not
Good arguments, but I don't understand why the green screen kept switching between racist symbols.
Indigo is purple Well I guess Fader was Right
Indigo is purple wack
Milan yeah I know I took five seconds to make this comment.
Nothing is racist anymore, it is how we adress eachother now. As I understand it, Hillary rotham comes from rothenhaimer, Dnald is Donald of Drumpf. We had the last election from the Third reich in the US. Daddy Hitler or mother Hitler, that were Your Choice, you chose daddy. Thinking about how many killers in prison are from single mothers, it seems right.
+mowgli Hassan What?
Saying something like "Drake revolutionized the music industry" is as real as saying "Michael Bay revolutionized the cinematography industry"!!! 😂
Well said🤣
They both had an impact tho, but pretty much only in bad ways imo.
@Maduxx Oney Reverse UNO card
Honestly tho, he kinda did there for awhile. A lot of action films and non-action films with elements of action really copied that style during the last couple decades. His style of big explosion action film, and their particular aesthetic and pacing, became hugely popular.
Don't get me wrong i hate but michael bay over-the-top action was big for a bit.
nick m he’s not bad
Let's leave it at this, they are not overrated but not underrated. all the praise they get they deserve.
Well how can someone be underrated if they are considered the greatest?
That's what I said, they aren't underrated. Pay more attention.
@@yowodup6094 ahh yes. The Rated Band...
@@joco8290 they’re so good that even though they’re so loved they’re still underrated that’s how good they are
They are pure trash
Logic is black? Lets argue
I M B I R A C I A L
Well duh
isn't he only a quarter black?
ya9thelatinogringo he's mixed
If we play those Words bakwards, what do you get? Thats right, cigol and kcalb. Well, that does not sound good, sounds kind of satanic. We learned this science With led Zeppelin, and it clearly tells us that black Logic is satanic, and therefore it must be verboten fo eva, and eva, and eva. Am I wrong here, Feel I am rightn, agree, nuh? Homies better stop making dam rapalbums. Also known as smublapar, AND THAT DOES NOT SOUND GOOD. THATS A SATANIC WORD. So ban all Music, and kill everyone With an album in their home, otherwise this Satan will take over. You People are With me? Of course, and for the rest, GOOGLE IT!
Calling Paul McCartney an N word 53 times was very mean of you sir. I get that you're not a big fan of the conspiracy but to go in THAT direction was very uncalled for.
Jews from the 6 What's an n word?
A NINKUMPOOP
Vincent LO you
There are at least 5 comments exactly like this on every video do you actually still think it's funny
I haven't seen that one before! Very funny!!!
Dude you look a lot like cal chuchesta. You should check out his mixtape it's the best.
Cal Chuchesta's mixtape is unlistenable. Let's be real here.
He looks even more like the needle drop
Bailes Sauce have you even heard him rapping about food? He’s an inspiration
Will You... Review... Mah Mixtape?
The Beatles have ove 150+ good songs. Their catalogue is consistent and untouchable.
Pink Floyd
I especially love Eleanor Rigby.
Ethan Gilworth Pink Floyd is veryyyyyyy subjective. It’s hard to listen to if you have a short attention span, which is quite the majority of the pop. right now.
Nick J I have adhd but I love Pink Floyd
Julien Sanchez Breathe in the Air, Time, Money, Brain Damage - they’re all good tracks that stand on their own.
Wow Melon! I can't believe you announced that you're forming an alt-right rap metal double act with Logan Paul.
LMAO, this is the best one so far
I actually lowkey want to hear how that would sound
I unironically want this.
What the fuck 😂😂😂😂
oh my god shut the fuck up
Thatistheplan is coming. It's so close.
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What do you mean “it’s close”? I just got over that channel’s death. What is happening now?
I want To be free the rebirth of christ
+I Want To be free I remember wondering, could there be a light at the end of his tunnel? But then he quit thatistheplan, and he had pretty much forgotten all about us :( I guess he was there, some years ago.. at an alt-right funeral. But he was one of so many meme mans, I didn't know which one was him.
HE HAD the MEME hat
Here's my thoughts on just the title "The Beatles are overrated" before I even watch the video.
Look at the Wikipedia page about Strawberry Fields Forever and read the list of instruments they played (or even better read the book Revolution In The Head). Who else has ever used a swarmandal on a song outside of Indian music? Who else could tell you what a swarmandal even is? That's just one of the instruments they used. There must be a dozen others. And they all work together to make a beautiful piece of music.
It's become popular to dismiss their early songs but they were works of genius too. Try playing one on guitar sometime and I guarantee there will be a chord in there somewhere you won't be expecting.
If you don't like The Beatles that's fine, but learn the difference between overrated and not liking something. If you're going to say they're overrated than think about what they're rated as being good at and tell me why they're bad at it. They're rated for catchy songs, inventiveness and in later years musical experimentation. If you're going to accuse them of being overrated then explain where they failed using your in depth musical knowledge. If you're unable to do that then stick to saying "I don't like The Beatles".
wtf is a swarmandal
Hell yeah they were very talented musicians. What's crazy is they didn't know music theory
matt not crazy more like believable their songs were ass💯
@@marchiesmusic what songs do you like?
Beatles was boomers' Backstreet Boys
Some may say the Beatles are overrated, but it's insane how they made classic albums every year without long needed break that many artists usually take.
The Beatles themselves aren’t overrated but the way people put them on a massive pedestal causes them to be seen as overrated
@@panama1942 And those people typically dont know The Beatles outside of Hey Jude and Revolution.
Had a friend who would argue that the Beatles sucked. We headed to the bar, Rocky Raccoon came on my music library and he says, “Oh the Raccoon song! I love this song.” I said, “I thought you hated The Beatles?” After some back and forth I said, “I cant believe you didnt know this is a Beatles song. If you didnt know this was a Beatles song, you haven’t heard very much of their stuff.”
He didnt become some Beatles superfan afterwards. But he did later admit they were a lot better than he gave them credit for. Im guessing thats the best im gonna get out of him.
@JAY CHROM3 You will probably blow your mind quite a bit with stuff like A Day In The Life or Hey Jude no matter what generation you're part of.
@@panama1942 It's because they deserve to be there.
@@gameplays4071 Great argument
wow Anthony I know you said that _________________ but did you really have to ____________________.
MixMachine HD lols
Wheatley, o fdp lols? That was really uncalled for cousin.
Rather than just putting the template, why try to make one of these jokes
Emmanuel Mondesir because they're overused and unfunny
Yeah, everyone making those jokes need to be aborted from the internet.
this is probably one of my favorite series on this channel melon keep it up
Drake has not revolutionized rap music. Tell me when he has done something completely different and made the rap industry copy that style of music. He is a good rapper but at the end of the day he makes the kind of music that sells... Nothing revolutionary about that.
huge drake fan & i agree with this
Aatah all those new flows that are catchy af, try making a catchy hook that EVERYBODY FUCK WITH you fucking cant
Miguel Lozano that's obective af
Miguel Lozano an hour and a half of the same shit? so revolutionary
Hes not even a good rapper. Hes a good artist. His bars are weak as hell
I love him for wearing a death shirt
I don’t care if they are overrated..
The Beatles or Pink Floyd, Worst to Best Please..
Notice me Melonman
VB MUTT What album do you think is Pink Floyd’s best? I’d say Animals.
Alvaro Elias It keeps changing, for now its Wish You Were Here..
It's gotta be Meddle
WYWH is the correct answer. There isn't a bad or even mediocre moment on that album. The Wall has too much filler, DSOTM has On the run and Any colour you like which fall short when compared to the rest of the album. Animals comes closest
Pink Floyd:
15. Ummagumma
14. A Momentary Lapse of Reason
13. More
12. The Division Bell
11. The Final Cut
10. Atom Heart Mother
9. The Endless River
8. A Saucerful of Secrets
7. Obscured By Clouds
6. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn
5. Meddle
4. Animals
3. The Wall
2. Dark Side of the Moon
1. Wish You Were Here
The Beatles:
13. Yellow Submarine
12. With The Beatles
11. Please Please Me
10. The White Album
9. A Hard Day's Night
8. Beatles For Sale
7. Help!
6. Magical Mystery Tour
5. Let It Be
4. Abbey Road
3. Rubber Soul
2. Revolver
1. Sgt. Pepper
CMON DO A BEST TO WORST BEATLES IVE BEEN WAITING SO LONG
Spoiler alert, Revolver is no. 1
Meko Katsu no
no
I don't know if I'm just weird as fuck but I don't like Abbey Road. Sgt Peppers, revolver, the white album, and let it be are all so much better imo, and I just can't put Abbey Road up with those albums, I just don't get it.
I’d have to agree that the white album is probably the best from a non subjective manner. It combines the experimentational and conceptual ideals of sgt pepper with a back to basics approach inspired by their earlier days as a group. It was the height of the collaborative process between the four of them. During the let it be and abbey road sessions the group began to go downhill as Paul began to take a dictatorial approach, John got sick of being in a group and more focused on politics and George was much more interested in spiritual pursuits.
That being said revolver is my favourite because to me it was the album where their creativity truly began to blossom, with some of their best singles such as rain, paperback writer and day tripper being released around the same time.
I’m also curious as to what fantmano would say
The Beatles brought avant garde to the mainstream like never before. Tomorrow never knows, Revolution 9 etc
What? Frank Zappa did that before them on Freak Out! Which basically every band had at the time, which even influenced the Beatles on Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. How did they bring avant-garde to the mainstream
@@kelechi_77Zappa was nowhere near as popular as the Beatles and wasn’t really “mainstream” at the time. Also, The Beatles found ways to make avant-garde music digestible and more accessible (Tomorrow Never Knows anyway, Revolution 9 is pretty inaccessible by comparison).
People just say they're overrated because of how big they were! All the praise they get is well deserved
kind of true. usually, the most popular is very far from being the best, but in this case they were both the most popular and the best aswell
Saying how big something is pretty much the definition of overrated. Lmao
@@donaldwestfall6143 at least you made yourself laugh
@@thaterasound Sorry, what?
@@donaldwestfall6143 at least you made yourself laugh
All music is bad.
Finally somebody said it
existence = pain
The worser it is the betterer it is.
lil b > music
except Jaden Smith
Idk all I know is I listened to Rubber Soul, Revolver, Magical Mystery Tour, and Sgt. Pepper when I was 12 and was blown away. And to this day, YEARS later, the songs haven't lost their touch. They personally will be the best to me.
What about Abbey Road and the White Album m8?
Hi yay i listened to those years later and the white album is incredible too, abbey road is good but personally its not my favorite.
Damn nigga that’s some gay ass music you be listening to
Ya guys like Revolution 9?
Zenith Skys Nice ignorance.
You know whos underrated as hell? The beach boys, pet sounds is some of the most ground breaking music of all time, and led the way to sgt peppers, and after that brian wilson made the most ambitious project of all time SMiLE, which never got finished until the 90s after brian had mental break down durring the creation of the project, if you want to check that album out they released "the SMiLE sessions" in the early 2000s which contains the original tracks from 1968 in their nearly completed form
Totally agree... Pet Sounds is on even footing with a good swathe of Beatles records and the finished Smile Sessions is easily on par with almost anything they did creatively
I agree. The Beach Boys are legends but I feel like the Beatles are a little bit better.
2ndsebringsucks the issue is that its their only album comparable to the beatles. the beatles are 5-1 against beachboys. brian wilson is still a genius and one of the greatest
Read up on McCartney and Wilson. Healthy competition. Rubber Soul is all about trying to better the Beach Boys
Agree!
They literally made fundamentals of rock and paved the way for other artist and just listen to every album, they always reinvented themselves again and again, there's a reason they stayed on top for nearly a decade and it would've been longer if they didn't split.
so did the kinks
The fundamentals of rock were created by bands like little richards, muddy waters, elvis and chuck berry. The beatles didn't create shit
@@ryucaro😂 I'm not going to waste my time on you, but you're showing your ignorance
Do your research before commenting
@@ryucaro You're not wrong, but so did the Beatles, they took those fundamentals and made it more creative. Like 25% of all Rock bands in the past like 40 years wouldnt have existed or got popular if beatles didnt exist
@@sathira_anuk5179 You are the one who's ignorant lmao, wtf beatles created fundamentals of rock??? Insane take. I will say the Beatles inspired a lot of bands to form groups but to say they created any sort of rock template is bizarre given they owe a lot of their sound to groups like the Beach Boys, the Byrds and Zappa
N E C K B E A R D
The Beatles took the fame they had and used it as leverage to push a more artistic and complex music writing style, all while making some of the best music. They could’ve been your average pop band, but they took it a different route. So for that they are the most important musical group in a sense
That argument alone doesn't justify considering them the greatest band of all time, you could easily say the same thing about Radiohead
Jordan While I love Radiohead, and would argue they are super influential, there probably wouldn’t be Radiohead without the Beatles. Plus Radiohead was popular with creep, but not on some Beatles level shit when they shifted directions, so no it’s not the same situation but I understand what you were trying to say
If it is one thing the beatles is known for, it is for making simple Music, to ring in mom and pop, and the kids, to make the communists all the Money they opposed. They were effortless, was like Milli Vanilli really. Only difference is, they ruled, since they used real musicians to play their Music.
mowgli Hassan Yeah the music pretty much after 65 and honestly even before that was DEFINITELY harder to make than goddamn milli vanilli. That’s what people always forget, they weren’t just those mop heads, they were legit songwriters with some of the most complex and well written songs off abbey road and the white album especially. Not some easy pop shit
Mr wolf, I ain't dogging the songwriting skills of the whiteys, great lyrics. Just saying Milli Vanilla was just as effortless, but their recordlabel hired real musicians to show their chops. Apple found 4 dorks, gave them some hooch, and made them act a fool. It was more about image than Music With beatles. It was their days backstreet boys. And if we include persons, we should agree that the King, the boss, or michael Jackson is the best through all time, if we pick from the 100-list.
I personally don't really care for the Beatles. They just never really struck a chord with me. But I will never say the Beatles are bad. They are probably one of the most influential bands, and they basically set the bar for every band after them.
Same, I can accept that they have a big legacy and all but I dont think they’re really anything special musically. The people who came after them picked up their themes and did it much better. To draw a comparison, I can appreciate Seinfeld and what they did to comedy as a genre. But if I actually want to have some good laughs I’ll watch some modern, more developed and, well, more perfected stuff. Thats my take on it roast away guys
@@alfatejpblind6498 Exactly and I think that music evolved better but the Beatles were the pioneers of music, but there is no denying that if their music was released right now they wouldn't even hit top 100. A lot of their legacy is carried by their fans that are some of the most defensive
@Critique Everything I mean I know more than five and I do rate them, but its people like you who are Beatles fanatics claiming they are the best thing since sliced bread when in all honesty yes they are the greatest band of all time but their music being popular right if released now, no chance
@Critique Everything Music wouldn't be the same? No chance another artist or group of artists would've filled in the gap, dont get too over your head mate
Beatles songs don't age well today. They sound quite cringy and stupid.
When you take in account every aspect of the Beatles they have to be the best band of all time
Federico Bernard es chi? fax
Federico Bernard es chi? Most people talking shit probably haven’t even heard more than 5 songs
That could apply to so many artists that it's ridiculous
thank you boii i needed that today
@@vivimos_en_una_sociedad7758 literally no one else
You've been rocking that Death shirt lately, how about a Death: Worst to Best
HaliniSnow backed af
1. all of them
All of deaths albums are the best
*best to better
*sees title and thumbnail*
Oh shit brace for impact
The Beatles were so good that they are somehow underrated.
So true.
They already have so many good rated and you say underrated wow
oh yeah I agree with u
I don't think you can argue they're underrated because that would imply they deserve MORE attention. I'd say worldwide success earning millions, keeping them relevant for 50 years and setting a standard for the entire industry is enough. I love the Beatles, they deserved all the success they got, but like how much more 'rated' can you really get?
@@jblen But the Beatles unfortunately already end so we can just hear their old song.And there is just a few people that like The Beatles now because they now like others song
Agree with Anthony completely on the Beatles. Regardless of what decade they were from, I think they're still a solid band.
I'd agree they were ahead of their time but if someone now loves music but doesn't care much for Beatles, I don't blame them.
for me titanic rising by weyes blood is a very new album (i didnt even find it because of anthony i found it myself) and gives me so many beatles vibes and natalie mering i think is a very promising songwriter just a few notches away from Paul McCartney....just my opinion though...and she does have quite the following...and i feel that even though she isnt in the charts...if everyone in the world had listened to this...quite a lot of people would like it...
I mostly like George Martin
The Beach Boys were years ahead of them and much better.
@@PresidentDylannah
I don't consider the Beatles to be overrated. I mean, I don't see how a band could be overrated when they essentially laid a foundation for an entire culture of Pop music to come. They were not only innovators (in the studio, song-writing, instrumentation, production methods, marketing, etc.), but they were also highly influential to generations of different musicians, even ones that aren't a part of the Rock n Roll culture. Even rappers cite the Beatles as influences. They paved the way for British musicians to become accepted here in America, which gave us the Rolling Stones, the Who, David Bowie, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, Elvis Costello, Elton John, Queen, etc.
I honestly feel like the only reason people say they're overrated is simply because the kinds of music they put out just isn't to their personal liking/taste, which is understandable. But one must understand that without the Beatles, popular music as we currently know it would hardly exist.
Afro'd Avenger Music Reviews Elvis laid tbe ground for pop music....Wtf are you talking about😂😂😂
People who think the Beatles are overated have only listened to anything before Rubber Soul.
Steady Mobbin' wtf, Elvis copied black music. He didn't do anything original. I'm not even a Beatles fan but I acknowledge the impact they had at the time and the way they pushed pop music forward. Elvis was just a white guy doing black music and making it palatable to white racist audiences.
JonS Very accurate.
Big enough
You got the title wrong. This one should be called "let's agree"
Get to fuck man lol
It's the tweets' fault, people came with the least edgy statements
Should be called " let's argue just a little big "
Agreed, was excited to hear him go in depth on how he felt about The Beatles but he moved on to the next question almost immediately
"Hip hop arguments are tired"?
Try hard rock arguments. Barely any bands past the 70s-80s are mentioned.
In hip hop you at least got some new artists who are accepted as greats.
Oof that's true.
Don't you guys think radiohead is the goat of rock and didn't they come out in the 90s
This is why rock is dying
Jackson The Epic no, rock is dying because nothing new is happening.
Tony Iommi you’re obviously not paying attention
I think the problem with NIN now is that Trent is not really focusing his energy and lyricism into catchy formulas. I felt with a lot of earlier NIN albums while they were so experimental, they all had flavour and there was something about each song that stuck in your ear and made you feel a certain way. I feel as if now he's just done so many types of sounds that he might be having some writer's block when it comes to making something with a bit of mainstream appeal. I'm all for experimental music and going against the grain but when it comes to making songs that will retain peoples attention they need to have a little something to them that will stick out in your head and have you coming back for more.
KosherKru that's probably true. Also, there's just something about his voice tone and lyrics post-The-Fragile that makes me roll my eyes. It's overly melodramatic and desperate coming out of an older gentleman. The songs sound like NIN parodies to me.
How is post The Fragile stuff more melodramatic than the 90s stuff? If anything, NIN's 90s lyrics were very emotional and could be seen as melodramatic than current stuff (especially Pretty Hate Machine and The Fragile).
IMO Year Zero is when I started to find myself going back to his old music for what I wanted. I still respect his hustle and I really admire what he is trying to do with his craft still to this day but I just can't get down with some of the newer albums.
Big man with a gun the lyrics themselves are similar in a vacuum, but hearing them coming out of the same person at 22 and then still at 40 just comes off as childish and creatively bankrupt.
I've honestly never found Trent to be a consistently good lyricist. Occasionally he hits you with a great line and he did manage to write 'hurt' with some of the most amazing lyrics I've ever heard but for the most part I've always found it to be the lowest point of NIN. I also get the impression from Trent that it is probably the factor that he is least interested in when writing music. Trent's sense of sound is why he is truly talented. Even within a pop formula he manages to make songs that are so moody, mysterious, atmospheric and intoxicating. I want the music to be more vague and convoluted. When I hear the very literal and self-centred lyrics over the top it kind of kills it for me. I was a diehard NIN fan when I was younger but now I rarely listen to a significant portion of their discography because I just find it cringy but it's not like how Linkin Park is cringy, I still feel like there is so much potential to a lot of the songs but they just don't pull through. I see this throughout his entire discography but particularly from The Fragile onwards. I genuinely think some of his best ideas come from that period up until now and I would make the case that he is actually more advanced as well as creative but I guess that crushes the soul that he had in The Downward Spiral a bit. I actually really love his soundtrack work as well as Ghosts and I think it's some of his best material. The new NIN at it's worst is when he tries to be the old NIN, which is over and is never going to happen again. Marilyn Manson is just an old an washed up public figure. I have nothing against the guy, I respect what he did but his time is up. This is just how it's been for me. What do you guys think?
So happy my tweet didn’t get featured haha not salty at all haha
Thatistheplan2 is fantano CONFIRMED!
Fantano. You are a voice of reason. Thank you for being here.
"Art is tragedy"
Tragedy is an aspect of art for catharsis.
The Beatles have such a big and diverse catalog of music, most young people don't know anything past their cheesy early songs. The Beatles were incredible and a lot of their music is timeless.
Their early songs aren’t even cheesy. It’s fucking amazing music, right from the start.
Magical Mistery Tour it's just the most underated thing ever. People talk about how the Beatles are just pop and about Hey, Jude and I Want To Hold Your Hand (that are good songs but not at all the magic of the band) and put aside songs like The Fool on The Hill, I'm The Walrus, Blue Jay Way, Your Mother Should know, Straberry Fields Forrecer and Penny Lane. That to not said the first pychodelic comedy on cinema, this movie literally inspired the Monty Pyton crew, the best comedy group and best thing to ever come from British invasion on the movie cenario.
And that's not the only underated experimental song or even nice song Tomerrow Never Knows, A Day in The Life (best music evet), Fixing a Hole, Glass Onion, Eleanor Rigby, I'm so tired, Rocket Raccon, Revolution 9 , Piggies... man there's so much... But the mainstream portray The Beatles as they were just Yesterday, She Loves You, All You Need is Love and all the most comercial songs. Most people who think the Beatles are overated barely know their songs and the experimental and really cool work. How the are against the mainstream and the mainstream at the same time. (Some even think Imagine is a Beatles song).
Their cheesy song was normal at the time. There was no metal back then.
@@lemonace6695 names off half of mmt. I mean I love that album, but you gotta be more discreet.
People in my generation will Sing along to beatles songs and not even realise its a beatles song, then be like "the beatles are overrated"
Best teeth in the game is slowly taking over Anthony's consciousness. Good
I don’t think the Beattles are bad, they are really good, I like them, they might were the greatest band of their time, but sure they are not the best band of all time, I personally consider bands like Queen above them.
Hate me
Queen is far superior. Better musicians, better production, better music. They just dont have the same propaganda as the 1960s one direction aka the beatles
@Red Crow lets not compare legends but we can say this they are better than todays music
"The Beatles are overrated" says every person who hasn't listened past their first few records. The Beatles started just as any pop-y "boy band", but man how they evolved overtime! George Martin opened the doors of musicianship to them and I personally believed this helped create some of the most subtly complex and impact-ful music ever. Some people just don't understand music man. I get it if you aren't a fan but if you look into the musicianship developed by the group, especially in the later years, a whole new appreciation will pop up. But again, for those who aren't as musically trained, the recognition of their complexity may not be so easy to come to. But even then, there's something about their music that just stands out among everyone else's.
Damn, I knew George Michael was a talented artist, but I didn’t know he was so talented to work with the Beatles as a kid!
George Michael? Are you sure it's not George Martin?
@@monicaburrull1860 CRAP yes my bad😂😂
Anyone who wears a bealtes shirt or says they love the beatles has never listened to a single beatles album.
It's garbage noise.
The fact that so many books still name Anthony Fantano as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" musical critic ever only tells you how far musical criticism still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz artists have long recognized that the greatest jazz critics of all times are Stanley Crouch and Nat Hentoff, who were not the most famous or richest or best critics of their times, let alone of all times. Classical artists rank the highly controversial Anthony Tommasini over classical critics who were highly popular in publications around Europe. Rock artists are still blinded by commercial success. Anthony Fantano had more views than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore he must have been the greatest. Jazz artists grow up listening to a lot of jazz criticism of the past, classical artists grow up listening to a lot of classical criticism of the past. Rock artists are often totally ignorant of the rock critics of the past, they barely know the best critiques. No wonder they will think that Anthony Fantano did anything worthy of being saved.
(not true by the way)
Loool ffs where was this from again?
edit: beatles copypasta lmao
Music Journalism in A Nutshell
Shiranami Rei then again jazz is completely irrelevant.
I was looking for this copypasta in the comments, good job
Are melons overrated?
NO!
Very
I like how you address the thumbnail opinion first. A lot of youtubers would attempt to make you sit through the entire video before you get what you clicked for. I seriously respect your approach. :)
You did not have to call hip-hop n-word music! I knew you worked for the UGRDF (Ultra Galactic Racial Discriminatory Federation)!
are we ever getting that Charles Manson Worst to Best video like you promised?!?!
Nine Inch Nails' film scores are some of the best in recent years though so I think they make up for their band music being less good.
Auden ghosts V-X when?
Literally came here to say that. I think Trent and Atticus have made some of the best electronic/ambient music of the past few years, so for someone to call their work boring, it fucking hurts! But yes, I also get that if that kind of stuff isn't their kind of music, I could see someone thinking its boring in comparison to the days of Downward Spiral.
as much as i adore the soundtracks (and recent projects with the exception of HM) i think its plenty fair to call his most recent work boring just because the beautiful, layered, ambient style trent primarily uses now is inherently not very exhilarating.
Totally agree. The Social Network OST is one of my favorite soundtracks of all time, and I would even say it's one of Trent's best projects in decades.
i showed my friend the title and they got pissed
I used to think the beatles were overrated and overhyped too, but that was purely based off of their songs that get the most exposure - stuff like Hey Jude and Twist and Shout. However, after I listened to their later works in their entirety - stuff like the white album and lonely hearts - I see where all the critical praise comes from and I can safely call myself a beatles fan. The white album in particular is extremely impressive in its musical scope that I think I caught some secondhand creativity.
While I'm fine if you don't like The Beatles music, since music is subjective...but I'll never agree in the slightest that they are overrated in any way because of how much they've done for the music industry, whether you like it or not.
The only area in which I'd say they are overrated is when people praise them for being super experimental and abstract. Otherwise, their historical significance cannot be befuddled.
just like taylor swift
How can Coldplay be the most overrated band of all time when U2 exists?
U2 had their best albums at the start of their career, everything after Achtung Baby is just mediocre to average.
MegaCrasherMusic Dad? is that you?
+MegaCrasherMusic beat me to it..yeah.. Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby have solidified their place in music history. Coldplay hasnt had any album that can be regarded as that. though their first few outputs had potential
Are Coldplay really in the position to be 'overrated' these days? I thought a band being labelled as 'overrated' means that they had to be 'rated' in the first place -- aka highly critically praised by many people. Coldplay haven't really been critically praised since 2008 and Viva la Vida, or before that in 2002 with A Rush Of Blood To The Head, their last few albums, whilst popular, haven't been very well recieved by critics. Hence why The Beatles can be labelled as 'overrated', due to the huge amount of acclaim and praise heaped upon them still.
Ross Parker they have a huge fan base who will fight you endlessly if you said anything less than "they are the most talented band right now." That has to count somewhat right???
Love seeing you rock that Death shirt..great band.R.I.P-Chuck Schuldiner
What are some contemporaries of the Beatles during their time? I'd like to know more, especially because i greatly enjoy the Beatles' more psychedelic works and rarely find something similar
"overrated" usually means "I don't like them as much as other people." But that's not objective - you have to explore WHY so many other people have liked the Beatles for so long.
Cole Slaw you could say the same thing about Coldplay, since he did mention Coldplay was overrated.
Cole Slaw they’re[the Beatles] not overrated, they are a great band but they are held to a too high standard, it’s like no one can be better than them(at least according to most Beatles fans).
I can imagine all the filtering he had to do with these replies cause of his "meme" fanbase trying to funny lmao.
ibeatmyson 555 I always try to funny but never can ;-;
Well in fairness to them, Melon feeds into the memes himself pretty hard. It's his own fault really
Clickbait I came here to defend the freaking Beatles lol
what?
C Casey Connor Casey... is that you
@@conorcasey4233 why do you insult people for simply having an opinion?
C Casey nice bait
@@conorcasey4233 fuck off
There is no band that truly deserves the fame that the Beatles got.
If there was any band to have it though, it would be the Beatles.
What about Queen???
@@pavelm.gonzalez8608 My answer to your question would be "no"
Thumping Thromnambular bruh. I mean, Queen was at about the same level of the beatles musically. Queen (just like the beatles) have produced timeless classics and underrated masterpieces. I would agree that the Beatles had much more of an influence on music as a whole, though.
nakonako fan Beatles is better than Queen
I could be wrong but I believe in an interview Paul McCartney said the Beatles didn’t even know how to read sheet music.
This could be because most of the members of Queen grew up in a more well-off area (London as compared to Liverpool).
Queen has much more musical complexity than the Beatles but yet again the Beatles don’t need complexity, neither of them do. It’s like the ol’ sayin’ goes:
You get a shit drummer to play on a $1mil kit, it’ll sound like shit
You get a master to play on a $50 drum kit from Walmart, they can make it sound like $1mil
Even people who don't listen to rock know how big the Beatles are and how important they were for music
Riley Coxon people who listen to a wide variety of rock know that they were not as innovative or as influential as people think.
Death Metal I listen to a wide variety of rock and they still are. Yeah other parts of rock take influences from different genres as well but a huge amount of bands from all over take influence from the Beatles
I'm sure 90% of rock musicians were influenced by the Beatles at one point.
"Some Beatles song are overrated" *
@Fant hey jude too
I fucking hate Sweet Caroline!
@@iammonke9203 wrong thread bro
@Fant A Day in the life is one of my favorite songs
@Fant this I can agree with. Their rockier songs like Helter Skelter, Back In The USSR, Ticket To Ride etc deserve the same level of attention. I guess the great thing about the Beatles is no matter what your tastes are, they have something that appeals to you.
As much as I love the Beatles, I can sort of understand someone who personally isn't that much of a fan of their music. However, I cannot understand people who flat out say that the Beatles "suck"
The only people who say the Beatles suck are those who cannot stand having the same opinion as everyone else
@@leadnitrate2194 the only people who like the beetles are those who cannot form their own opinion.
@@improbablyyourdad8458 come on now. One's own opinion _can_ be in accordance with widely held opinions. In this case, because the Beatles are great.
to each his own.......music is subjective........if they suck to someone, they suck.
What I’ve found is I seldom play any of my Beatles records these days… they were a moment in time, a huge moment - no doubt about that - but for me anyway, that moment faded into the mists several years ago. In contrast I still play several of my early Stones records, that in all honesty I feel have aged better than Beatle ones have. Maybe it’s because they have several blues based songs & that genre is pretty timeless, or just that the Jagger / Richards songs have stood the test of time better & not become as ‘corny’ as some of the Beatles songs have.
The Beatles,removed from their influence, still made great music
Kvlt since birth They made incredible music. Mind blowingly powerful melody and song.
By that logic, red hot chili peppers would be one of the best bands of all time lol
Nemo Dollaz How so? The argument is that if removed from their influence and viewing their music as objectively as possible the Beatles still made good music. Which they did. They may not have been as experimental, but their music has stood the test of time and even furthered others as inspiration entire generations down the line.
One Dixie Cup Just For You They were incredibly experimental for a band that was so pop they transcended pop.
The beatles are the reason so many great bands and artists have existed
I agree but did you really have to repeatedly call this joke unoriginal and tell normies to get new jokes.
Damn that part about Pure Comedy hit too close to home, too true
ALL I CAN SAY IS THE BEATLES ARE AMAZING ON LSD/SHROOMS 🌀
The beatles are amazing post and pre lsd era
Mostly anything pseudo-weird is good on shrooms, the Beatles are great but not particularly special when it comes to getting high.
try the grateful dead on acid buddy. something greater than music
Zappa is the way to go.
same with resonance by home
I liked this video but Fantano needs to cool it with the anti semitic remarks.
Whats wrong With that? Are you an islamophob?
mowgli Hassan
Dude anti-semitism is discrimination against Jews not Muslims
Amer Aldabagh joke flew right over your head boi
Joshua Aldana im new to these plz help
Amer. The point of Islam is hatred towords jews, its like 50% of the quran. No antisemitism, no islam. And SJWs yells islamophobia when People criticize islam for genital mutilation, stoning, forced marriage, etc. they would defend jewhate too. Many facets to the joke, a little kick to islam, and a big kick to the SJWs.
Some specific albums by The Beatles are overrated; but the band on the whole definitely isn't. Their influence in song writing is so massive that the effects of their music is still felt today.
But isn't influence overrated? Let's argue.
The Beatles have made great albums and are highly influential, but a lot of people just think they invented everything from metal to prog and punk among others, which is just not true, they where extemely influenced by bands like The Who and The Beach Boys. They are regarded as one of the most intelligent and complex bands lyrically and song writing wise, and its pretty obvious they are not really that. But there's a tendency among the people who considers them overrated to hate on the band, say they where utter thrash and diminish their huge influence, which I also disagree with.
Abbey Road is a 10/10
Nikhil Bhagat Get Back!
I aint feel shit dude, quit with that vapid emotional connection crap
THANK YOU for your opinion about Coldplay! What they do today is just boring and commercial but they have some great albums like X&Y (my favorite)
Almost 50 years after The Beatles broke up, and they are still relevant. The Beatles wrote the Rolling Stones first hit (I wanna be your man) and they didn’t really care for the song . Keith Richards even said that without The Beatles, there wouldn’t be The Rolling Stones. Music genius, Brian Wilson, was blown away from Rubber Soul and Sgt Peppers. The competition during their time included The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Beach Boys, The Doors, CCR, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and that’s just the artists that are remembered from the era, and The Beatles are considered the best from the era. The amount of artists they’ve influenced over the years isn’t comparable. They revolutionized music in a way no one else has or will ever do again. They were the first super group. Anyone who says they are overrated don’t know real talent, can’t appreciate their accomplishments, or don’t like them
Caleb Caldwell Im glad you mentioned the doors, because thats a perfect example of a band better than the beatles music wise, the beatles music is just so fucking boring
Too bad they boring as fuck lmao
S M have you not listened to Sgt Peppers? Revolver? I like The Doors but they’re nowhere near The Beatles musically
Caleb Caldwell I have and the music is so boring holy shit i don't know how anyone can listen to it
S M I feel like people who say that the beatles are overrated or have boring music are failed products of incest
Is there anything better than a large slice of melon on a warm summer's day?
Do you put salt or liquer on it? Or you eat it plain?
Hm, I’m surprised with the amount of people who agreed with the Beatles-thing. Personally, I think they have some of the best written songs of all time. And there are so many of them. Like +100 songs that would be ”that one song” for so many of the other bands of the era.
Kosma Räisänen younger people only say the Beatles are overrated because they’ve been exposed to their influence their whole lives and don’t think it’s special. Meanwhile Bruno Mars and Pharrell have been ripping off Michael Jackson for their whole careers and you can bet younger generations will consider Jackson an overrated weirdo
I actually think The Beatles are very underrated.
Same. I believe they actually deserve more credit for their influence on music.
They (Beatles critics) probably have no reference beside the early work, She loves you etc. The interesting Beatles period imo would be the mid to late era starting with Revolver, reaching a creative peak with Sgt Pepper and a "quality peak" with White album. Consider the evolution from Hard days night to Tomorrow never knows, only two years apart..
Beatles dont get enough credit nowadays. We have more people sucking off retaerded bullshit like arcade fire when beatles wrote way better songs.
As a musician, I'll never understand how anyone is able to channel their suffering or grief into music. The idea of creating art from my previous struggles seems terrifying to me because it means needing to recount not only that moment but how you felt in that moment and where your mind was at that time, which is somewhere I would never be able to willingly put myself. But hey, maybe I just don't have what it takes I guess.
0:15 I'm using this as my wallpaper.
Hot take: The Beatles good.
(not true, by the way)
Bold stance. I respect it
3:30 - This hurt my heart!
same. but it is true
I don’t agree with the last part though cuz Days Before is almost just as good as Rodeo
It hurts, but I think it’s true
Aaron D that shit hurt my whole body
Music stopped trying after ‘94, my dude.
amazing t-shirt man!! RIP Chuck
I love this series cos I like ur chilled voice but album reviews get boring after a while
THE FACT THAT
Clicktony Baitano
I'd have an issue with the clickbait title/thumbnail but I really enjoy the series so it evens out
People say the Beatles are overrated because of the fanboys who place them on a massive pedestal. Imo they are a little bit overrated, because of the people who say things like modern music would not exist without them, and how almost every top artist list has them at #1. Anyone saying massively overrated doesn’t understand their impact. I just think the dial needs to be turned back a little bit.
@@user-qt7iv7qv7b Imagine thinking someone else wouldn’t do that in the near future LMAO
I highly disaree to what has been Said regarding NIN. These recent releases have been so interesting and exciting to listen.. IMO
You wouldnt say that soundless, colorless TVs we're overrated in their time. Make sure you compare them to their era.
Yes, colour-TVs are a devils invention. I live in a socialist-country, so they banned colour from TV for 5 years.
mowgli Hassan I was just reading your comments on why you thought the Beatles suck, and after reading this comment, I've come to the conclusion that you are a fucking idiot.
Stephen Redmond. I am not arguing that, I am an idiot. But this is 2018, idiots are included. You are an evil excluder. Let me live, and act a fool, we are trying to live in peace bruh.
Woah you agree that Lil Pump should have gotten a 10???!
darth boner Edgy Xd
Ouch my soul
Is it possible to acknowledge the importance and influence of a band that does not resonate with you personally? Yes.
"I read the news today oh boy
About an unlucky Melon that made the grade
And, though the news was rather great
I'm still not sure if he deserved all that hate"
If you know what I'm talking about, finish the song through replies
"He blew his mind out on a phone
He didn't notice his battery
A crowd of people watched his vids
They had seen his face before
Nobody was really sure if they'd been on his channel before"