My Drummer Said That RINGO Sucks, So I Dared Him To Play THIS Beatles Beat!
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Good drumming. Also, I like the two pieces of art you have on the wall behind you - really colourful and cheerful. Do you know who painted them? I suspect Miro but that's only a guess. The art looks like it's in the same style as the cover art on Dave Brubeck's first two albums.
"A long time ago, this is decades ago now, we were trying out a drummer and he said Ringo sucked"... so just for clickbait views I'm just going to word the title in a way that makes it seem like this happened last week... not DECADES AGO. Thanks
And Mr. Starkey's son is even BETTER!
so true! i respect Ringo more now...and I do shuffles for latin beats
@@simonmultiverse6349 They look like Laura F Bennett’s work
Paul McCartney says with Ringo, you never had to worry about him speeding up or slowing down-rock solid.
Paul McCartney sucks
Of all the drummers in the world to listen to, Ringo was the one who was so in the pocket that he could prove that the metronome was off!
😂😂😂
Someone asked John if he thought Ringo was the best drummer in the world. He replied, "He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles."
@@darrylbrooks3361 Paul was pretty good
I read that Ringo’s timing was so consistent that it allowed the Beatles to splice different parts of different takes of a song to make it the best version.
The best drummer ever is the drummer who plays exactly what the song calls for.
Yep, I have a very firm Moon bias, but Moon would not have been able to play for the Beatles, as Ringo would not have been able to play for The Who. Ringo was exactly what the Beatles needed, and that's all that matters.
And Ringo fits that description perfectly
Stewart Copeland. I couldn’t agree more.
Thank you!
Exactly!
There's a great joke that is right on point.
Gene Krupa gets a letter addressed to the "World's Greatest Drummer." He doesn't open it and says, "I know who this is for." So, he sends it to Bill Bruford. Bruford smiles and shakes his head and forwards it to Buddy Rich. Rich opens the letter while smiling and saying, "It CAME." He reads the first line, and it starts, "Dear Ringo," ...
Brilliant! Thank you.
No, it doesn’t.
In no Universe was Ringo a better drummer, than Buddy Rich.
I had an extensive back and forth with someone who proposed that Pete Best was better than Ringo.
It went on and on. Some people will _not_ accept the evidence of their own ears.
The joke was about fandom and Buddy's ego, not that Ringo was technically a better drummer. And Bruford wasn't the second drummer in the chain. It might have been Max Roach, though I could be mistaken there as well.@@JTM1809
@@JTM1809 boy you're fun at parties
Should have asked him to sing Act Naturally while drumming that beat. Ringo pulled it off live, and often. Absolute legend, was Ringo.
Was?!
Last I check he still kicking it
Is
I had a drummer who had the same mindset towards the Beatles. Said all Beatles songs were boring and simplistic, Ringo is a bad drummer, etc. We wanted to learn the song “Rain”, he couldn’t drum it to save his life. He is no longer my drummer…
Your drummer was correct nonetheless.
@@richardharrold9736 nah, he's wrong
@@damonmoon436 immensely wrong
The funny thing about ‘Rain’ of course is that it was recorded at a faster tempo, and then slowed down. So, Ringo had to play it faster, but still get the groove. Ringo is an amazing drummer. Full stop.
It’s funny how people can’t understand what made him the legend he is.
Never sleep a legend.
George Harrison said of Ringo, "he only needed to hear a song once and he knew the drum part it needed". When the songs are being written by 3 of the greatest song composers of all time, that is an extreme compliment to Ringo's genius!!
Puts a new spin on the joke about Ringo just being “the drummer.” He was THE drummer.
And what most people don't know is that Ringo also wrote some of their most famous songs too!
And this is I would say actually the most important part of being a drummer. You can come up with a beat which makes a song good or great, OR you come up with a beat which elevates it to a evergreen the entire world knows and loves for decades.
I think Mozart and Beethoven might have been better composers.
@@pissedoff7243mozart and beethoven didn't affect the music industry that much since they only made music for 💰 while Beatles used most their music to protest and to spread awareness
It’s one thing to play a cover perfectly. It’s another to create the music from scratch, like Ringo did hundreds of times. A true musical genius. Any drummer can just fill it with noise, but Ringo was a real artist, adding the perfect fill without overdoing.
He litterally played everything simple and boring. Exept the song rain where he just plays bad fills Overtop everyone. Ringo sucks
@@austinsatterfield4981 How is the beat for Tomorrow Never Knows boring? One of the most iconic beats ever.
@@austinsatterfield4981 There's a whole lot more to music than complexity. If you can't see beauty in simplicity, you're gonna miss out on a lot of great music. Ringo made great music. Great music is far more important than chops. Ringo got it exactly right every time
@@austinsatterfield4981
You couldn’t play it,
could you?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You got brain damage??? must suck @austinsatterfield4981
Ringo STILL has that relaxed, completely comfortable look when he plays. He's just that naturally good.
Or acts naturally. 😀
My Father was an Orchestra Leader from the "Swing" era, he was not a rock n roll fan. When the Beatles arrived on the scene, HE bought their first album and sat and listened to it with us. He told us that Ringo was a true drummer, a great musical talent because he understood how important it was the keep the beat spot on always. His talent kept the band in sync, exactly what a drummer's first and foremost function is. He loved the Beatles, thought Lennon/McCartney were an amazing song writing team (as they proved over and over) and would explain why certain songs were such masterpieces. George was equally important because he brought to the band exactly what they needed. My Dad would be 109 if he were alive today - he knew music.
Your Pa' seemed awesome. I can relate to your story, the love of music connected my dad and I more than anything. We would marvel at songs together, he'd be 62 today. Here's to amazing fathers and the hopes of becoming one someday !
Fantastic
Sounds like amazing memories to have of your father. IMHO some of the songs were George songs tbh
Thank you for such a beautiful and honestly written insight.
This is how good the internet could be
Yea he did they are greatest musicians in history!! No music positively effects human soul as does their music!!
The fact that the other three Beatles still used Ringo as their drummer on solo albums says a lot.
It says they were friends
Well, Lennon or McCartney had just also other drummers on their solo albums, not only Ringo.
@@BruceLyeg That's bs. If you needed an artist to make an important portrait for you, and you knew your art class friend sucked at art, would you still commission them to draw?
@@markpichler9070 yep. But when Lennon was recording his Double Fantasy album, at one point he told the session drummer, "just play it like Ringo". :-)
It says it's their friend, that's about all.
Ringo's image as a semi-clownish character distracted from his deep talent.
right? it'd be like if luigi was the strongest character in the mario universe. except in Ringo's case its true. I feel fine is one of my favorite Ringo beats. He really kills it on the ride cymbal.
I had a drummer buddy back in high school, late ‘60s. He was a fantastic drummer and even then could have replaced or at least competently mimic just about any drummer in the rock ‘n roll universe at that time. He told me back then how great Ringo was. He was one of my best friends and I have lost track of him, and I don’t think he’s with us any more. His name is/was Mike Jenkins. Anyway, he demonstrated several things about the drums and Ringo that I could never emulate in a thousand years on a drum set (I would’ve made a crappy drummer) that totally blew me away, and I have since maintained Ringo’s (as well as Mike’s) greatness to everybody I’ve talked about it with.
The weirdest and best thing about Ringo is if you just looked at his face you would think he wasn't doing anything at all, he looks like he's chilling watching TV
Charlie Watts was the same way.
@@1blastmanZen guys.
John Lennon once said that Not only was he not the best drummer in the country he wasn’t even the best drummer in the Beatles.🤣
@@anthonyeaton5153No, he never said that...
@deancarlsen3178 yes he did. But he was joking, having a laugh. Done my research.
You know Ringo was very good because John & Paul were perfectionists & never even looked tp replace him once.
Lennon was many things. A perfectionist wasn't one of them.
@@johnnyrocker7495 except being a perfect asshole.
@@johnnyrocker7495 True, but if John didn't like something he was never shy about speaking up.
Just like they didn't replace yoko ono when she was screaming? LOL they were softies who didn't do what they needed.. can’t drum - “great guy, though” - Quincy Jones on Ringo Starr.
@@mr.s1961you just don’t get it. go listen to something your speed
'I Feel Fine' is a real challenge to play also.
My first Beatles record
I used to be a drummer. The biggest argument among drummers was always Ringo and there was no "He's okay." middling opinions about him. Thing is, there was a guy who was on the Tonight Show w/ Johnny Carson, a lot, named Buddy Rich. He was the bona fide winner of a contest for the world's best drummer, over and over again. And, one time he said he had Ringo Starr over at his house and he'd like to show a clip of his playing. Johnny was not going to have it, thought it sounded mean and beneath B.R. to be that way, expecting it to be a terrible joke. But, no, Buddy convinced him and he showed Ringo when he was not just playing what was needed for a Beatles song and told Johnny that after a while he, Buddy Rich, had to quit because he could not keep up with Ringo. It was an awesome clip!
Didn't find that, unless it turns out to be on this vid, but here' the guy that admitted he could not keep up with Ringo: czcams.com/video/2-yQWPanTyw/video.htmlsi=cYF7uK1xsyUKlmwp
An engineer who worked with the Beatles in Abbey Road said Ringo was the most reliable of the Fab Four because he needed mostly one take to record his parts , no timing problem.
Also John Lennon stated that Ringo was already a professional before joining the Beatles and drumming was his job actually. And that since he was a left handed who was mostly self taught on a right handed kit he would come with unusual patterns that a lot of right handed drummer would struggle to replicate.
He may not be the most technical drummer, and was not fond of drums solos , but he contributed to a solid rhythmic section and has his own style.
As far as the Beatles after watching the Let It Be reissue Ringo was the only one in the band that didn't make me cringe acting like a brat. A true class act.
Because they were recording the backing live as a band together, it is fair to say that he wasn't the one causing false starts etc...
I believe that a lot of his fills were similar on different takes but never exactly the same, however I could be wrong on that.
Well put.
Ringo was "professional" when he joined because he was with Liverpool's biggest band at the time Rory Storm and the Hurricanes but if you listen to old Rory - Ringo was no better than Pete Best at that point. Later if you read Recording Sessions book you'll note Beatles did many many many takes with false starts over and over sometimes into the hundreds...This was PRACTICE for Rings - over and over and over same crap - over and over. To say he was Mr one-take is absurd and Ringo himself says he NEVER practiced thus backing my claim that his schooling was done in the studio via hundreds of takes. No, he wasn't responsible for the many false starts usually but you can see his drumming evolve dramatically. Richie literally got real good in the studio because face it - by the time he joined the Beatles he never had to play longer than 30 minute sets which anybody could do without fatigue. 🎸
I think a big reason for this opinion so many people seem to have (that Ringo sucks) is cuz Quincy Jones said he tried recording Ringo and he was no good. I never believed it cuz of Beatles concert footage I'd seen where I thought he was superb.
Ringo is a human metronome. He's got perfect timing and his fills were always tasty and only where needed. I hate it when people say he isn't a good drummer. He is a GREAT drummer!
Spot on comment. I grew up a Beatles fan (probably a little young for them but when you have an older sister playing 45’s over and over, that’s what happens)! My son is a drummer and I was so proud to hear him make this point to someone who made this same statement about Ringo. 🇺🇸
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lol. nope
when Mcartney and Lennon were auditioning drummers for the Beatles the 1st time they met Ringo and heard him play they just looked at each other and said "what the f*ck is going on here !?" they couldn't believe what they were hearing and Ringo makes it look so easy it's as though he isn't trying at all , even just a little bit !
no he isnt and this comment fully misses the appeal of ringo lmao, his imperfections and hihat feel are his best feature in my eyes. if you listen to his hihat, he plays a sort of in-between of a true triplet shuffle and a straight groove, and that fluidity IS the reason ringo is good.
Also, listen to the drumming on two of my fave Ringo moments: "Rain" and "Come Together".
Yes - brilliant what Ringo does on Come Together - very jazzy - lifts the song up even higher than the unforgettable lyrics by John
Ringo's 'simplicity' was pure genius.
Ringo making it look easy is part of why he's a great drummer.
100!
As a drummer I've always respected Ringo. A lot of his parts are technically simple...but he always wrote/played the right part for every song. There's a lot to be said for that. It reminds me to ask myself, "Am I putting this fill/beat in because it's tough and I can play it, or because it enhances the song?"
Right he had inate feel for the song and didn't push himself to the forefront with showoff shit.
The way I put it is that most drummers play patters; Ringo plays the song. Especially later, he rarely if ever just put a stock beat to a song.
Sometimes I think they are deceptively simple
A lot like Charlie Watts. Underrated but played exactly what he needed to and sounded great while doing it without fuss.
its not just the drummer, too many know how to play drum, but the question is who gets famous.
My wife and I got to see Ringo in concert with his All Stars. He and his All Stars was great. He is underappreciated as a singer too.
Ringo is great for what he didn;t play as much as what he did. His fills are magic and he always does the song justice in my mind. Cant find one song where he hams it up.
My dad has always said that Ringo wasn't all that because he was simple, so i put him to the test with him playing through an extended fan mix of Helter Skelter and he got tired at the 3 minute mark with 11 minutes to go. He looked up at me and laughed, and he said "son, this is one of those rare times i'm going to say that you're right". And he's never said anything bad about Ringo ever since lol.
Sounds like your dad found out why Ringo had BLISTERS ON HIS FINGERS!
Lol you got good pops when he can admit he's wrong about something. Lol
And never said you were right ever again
Just because your old man is a sucky drummer does NOT mean Ringo's a good one. What it means is Ringo and your daddy both suck.
Eratic03 - Try with Bill Bruford...
Really impressive work. And ringo could do this with no clock track or backing at all. He was really incredible.
I guess you're not recognised much 'round these parts... ;)
Hey, Kenji! Didn’t know you were into music… 🤪
Click track
he looked at John's ass going up and down to keep time
I remember Ringo not being happy about the digital click track. "I'm the f**king click track!"
Ringo Starr had to be good enough for The Beatles, and he was. Now, 60 plus years later, he's still doing it. To me, that puts him in a class that very few other drummers have achieved.
👍The Beatles chose Ringo. I trust their judgment.
Fun to observe how the high-hat slowly turns clockwise throughout the song, especially in the sped-up footage. Would be a cool timelapse to lock the frame to the high-hat and everything else spins around
My dad played drums professionally from the early 60s to the late 90s. He always said that Ringo is one of the hardest drummers to replicate, because he did his "simple" stuff so well.
I agree. I started playing drums in the mid-60's and I agree completely with your dad. I always wondered why this "simple stuff" was so hard to play. I'm still working on it and I've been playing professionally ever since then.
So many people confuse the word "simple" with the word "easy". Perhaps "direct", "straightforward", "clean", or "smooth" would be more apt synonyms in this case.
@@boomerguy9935 k
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that's one of the reasons Kobe was so damn good. just hammered home the fundamentals, day after day.
I used to be the guy that thought Ringo was overrated. I was a teenager when I started playing drums, and I was really into much busier drummers like Bill Bruford, Tony Williams, Barriemore Barlow, etc. As I got older, I realized that it wasn't always about the fills and speed. Sometimes keeping a steady beat was all that was needed, and depending on where you were coming from as a musician, that simplicity could be pretty challenging. Ringo was one of the greats from back in the day when playing drums was still in it's infancy, and people like him were creating patterns that we now look at as basic. Ringo definitely deserves all the praise he gets.
Exactly! On top of so many other things people don't realize about his drumming, they don't take into account the time period he was playing. Ringo brought the drums to the forefront in pop and rock music.
Yeah, yeah, yeah(from She Loves You song). Ringo had a hard act to follow and Pete Best was awful good but didn’t get along well with the Beatles’ manager. Perhaps the style at the time was slowed down and they didn’t want to scare anyone. Besides, I’ve heard they borrowed drum beats from druidic/shamanic trance styles or this could just be a rumor to add to the Beatles’ mystique. I do think Ringo got better, though, as I recall hearing him play around the year 2000 or so, as he seemed tighter and quicker than much earlier.
Not only basic. He was a very melodic drummer too. Think of come together. He used his percussive instrument to create melodies.
I remember reading in some magazine where a journalist asked John Lennon if he thought Ringo was one of the best drummers around at the time. And John responded by saying "Are you kidding me??? He's not even the best drummer in our band!!"
Ouch!!!
Never liked the Beetles.
Well done! You taught us non-drummers some cool nuances!
Ringo is not only talented, he is quite charming. I hope to see a lot more of him playing music with other great musicians.
John and Paul referred to Ringo as a human metronome. They hired him as he was THE BEST DRUMMER they had heard. Ringo was grossly underrated. He revolutionized hold the drumsticks (both in same position). He didn't hold 1 stick like a spoon, as most drummers do. He put Ludwig drums on the map. The band loved his drumming and perfect beat. One of the best in history.
Yeah, I thought I remember reading somewhere that Ringo usually only needed a couple of takes in the studio to get his parts down, because his instincts and rhythm were so good and so consistent. Ringo was always pretty self-deprecating about his abilities, too, so people tended to think he wasn't anywhere as good as he really was.
Exactly, Ringo was hired because he was probably the best drummer on Liverpool, he wasn't a genius composer like his bandmates, but one of the most skilled drummers on the country.
I think the terms you're looking for are traditional and matched grip
@@Nico-dv7bqYou're forgetting drums are a big part of the composition. Come together is not come together without those fills, that's from the mind of Ringo. Saying he's not a composer is a disservice, he absolutely is a masterful composer of the drums, his sound is iconic and recognizable and it was all conscious intention.
He played just the right thing on each song, never too much or too little, just exactly what the song needed. There's a good video on CZcams somewhere where a girl drummer shows what made Ringo special.
Nostalgia is a funny thing. Ringo was actually the fourth drummer that Brian approached to replace Pete Best. Three other drummers were asked first but refused.
People just don't realize how exceptional together were the four talents that comprised the Beatles.
yeah, that is the things that's actually important. ringo clearly did his job well, otherwise the band would not have been so good. he wasn't playing drums for drummers, he was playing for the general public, who do not care about impressive drumming. in that sort of music, it's a given that the drums are not a lead instrument.
The Beatles would have been a good band without Ringo. With him, they were a great band.
They’re considered the goat band so I think so bro lol
They all had multiple number 1 hits after the Beatles...pretty impressive.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery said:
A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
I think this is so true for the Beatles.
His son Zak is incredible. Saw Zak with The Who a handful of years ago and I was amazed at how much he played and sounded like Keith Moon.
That’s because Keith Moon taught him how to play drums.true story
Strawberry Fields is some of my favourite drumming in music.
He's by no means the best drummer of all time, but he is underappreciated.
What I respected about Ringo is that the other Beatles threw so many styles of music at him and he make the drumming work so well.
Exactly; most drummers would have wilted in the presence of the creative onslaught that Lennon/McCartney/Harrison threw at Ringo, with no two songs being alike. Ringo not only met the challenge but made major contributions and enhanced the songs with his drumming and percussion. Ringo may not have known it, but he was a true musician, and exactly the right drummer for the Beatles. It’s astonishing they were all from the same place at the same time and found each other.
@@handrm they found each other like that bc Lennon sold his soul to the devil at midnight on an old infamous bridge in england in order to get fame and fortune thru a ridiculously talented band.
@@handrm look at the get back documentary too. While lennon, mccartney, and harrisson were arguing and refining their new songs, ringo was just doing his own thing. They didn't even argue against him or gave him any suggestions. They liked what ringo was making that gave them more time to focus on theirs. Ringo did not just bring compositional talent, he also brought comfort.
Here's a great example: the Beatles recorded a ska/reggae song called "Ob La Di, Ob La Da" on The White Album; Led Zeppelin recorded a reggae song called "D'Yer Maker" on Houses of the Holy. I ask you, did Ringo or Bonham nail the tight Jamaican groove better?
@@Strato_Casterrr9898 I noticed that too--I always knew he was an excellent drummer but he really impressed me with the drum parts that he'd come up with. Good point on them not giving him any suggestions on what to play, he was very instinctive and could come up with those fine drum parts to accentuate what they were doing. I came away from the documentary thinking woah, Ringo really was their rock, they always knew they could depend on him, not only for his superb drumming but his mellow, supportive attitude.
Ringo did what many drummers / percussionists cannot do. He played appropriate, musical parts that supported each song.
Only other drummer, in Ringo’s words, that can do the same is the late Mr. Charlie Watts, and he does a fantastic job too
Yeah, I think Ringo has lots of great drum parts, but to me the story that explains why Ringo is as important to The Beatles as the rest of them is a part that he *didn't* play. Paul brings "Yesterday" in and plays it for Ringo so he can figure out what drum part to play, and Ringo basically says, "It doesn't need any drums; it's done already." Are there more technically skilled rock drummers? Sure, absolutely. But if any of those guys played drums for The Beatles, they wouldn't have been The Beatles.
Yep many try to make themselves the focus by playing loud or playing overly complex when the song doesn't call for an overly complex drum part.
Aynsley Dunbar is an awesome drummer but He got kicked out of a couple of groups because he was a little too energetic lol
The Brian May of drumming? 🤔
We drummers all have our "Ringo" moment after talking shit about him. For me, it was realizing that A Day in the Life is a goddamn drumming masterwork. So unorthodox and off-kilter while managing to stay in the pocket the whole time. Just brilliant.
Drumming masterwork? Okay, whatever.
@@liamsandal6360damn. This guy made a snarky reply to a CZcams comment, he's so cool he must be right!
Word!
I enjoy his drumming. It's perfect for what is required in each song. Absolutely LOVE what he did in "Something" - the drums, brilliant bass tune, and guitar blends beautifully ❤
You should have mentioned that Ringo was not only a human metronome, but he could repeat the same beat, over and over during 12 hour recording sessions!
The man's a legend!
No he couldn't, he was incapable of holding the simplest beat without his timing wandering. Incompetent, arrogant, narcissistic and stupid. Quincy Jones hasn't a good word to say of him.
When metronomes what to calibrate themselves, they get a Ringo.
But he cheated by having his beer and cigarettes handy!
@@neilwilson5785 After smoking a doobie with Ahtook, Lana and his pet dinosaur.
@@astrodb4487 IMO Charlie Watts.
Ringo is a human metronome, flawless time. His originality was beyond amazing. And even as a boy when I first heard the Beatles, I knew it was actually Ringo that gave the Beatles their exciting sound, their music always sounded like it was moving a thousand miles per hour. One of the greatest.
If you listen to early tracks with Pete Best on drums you can appreciate just what Ringo brought to the band.
Keeping good time was once considered a compliment. Prog rock kind of changed the calculus. For example, there is a reason why Geddy Lee is considered such a great bassist. He kept time so that Peart could meander amongst his 75 drums and cymbals.
@@mc76 Nah, I'd say they both fed off each other.
Um, no. Ringo was not a great timekeeper. (Bonham was miles ahead and still not the best; that title probably belongs tp Carmine Appice) Plug him into a Russian Dragon, and fares not well, but he originated some beats never heard before and brought a unique twist to many others.
@@m0j0b0ne ur a clown
best description for Ringo. Star is he’s a very solid drummer and he’s also very intuitive. He able to come up with some very memorable drum parts.
My favorite Ringo lick(?) is the last 30 seconds of Thank You Girl.
I think a lot of people who dismiss Ringo don't appreciate that he didn't play to stand out, but rather played to complement the song. He wasn't playing to show off but his drumming enhanced the songs beautifully.
i would go as far to say the entire beatles band sucks
I watched a drum tutorial somewhere on CZcams years ago in CZcamss infancy. But the instructor brought up Ringo. Amd said he's not overplaying or fancy; but serving the song.
True, that fits their music which is smart. However, if your talking about a real percussionist on his own, not a member of a band, who can adapt to just about any style of music from jazz to metal... funk, country, fusion, latin etc. Ringo Star would be lost, while more advanced drummers would completely inialate him. That's the point most drummers and musicans are making when they reference Ringo as "sucking" on the drums.
Steve Ferrone club.
Exactly! Every musician's job - play to the song. No more. No less. If Ringo were playing the old Beatles tunes while trying to add Neil Peart beats and fills, it would have sounded ridiculous
As far as I'm concerned, Ringo doesn't have to prove ANYTHING to ANYBODY. His drumming speaks for itself, and his drumming is top notch👍
He had no career, after Beatles nobody wanted him
@@Solomongrundy68 Ringo had 2 number one songs after they broke up before John had one.
Dude has been playing non stop and also was also Mr. Conductor. If he's had no career you've never had a job.
Ringo is A one in my book,, i think he's a great guy,, and he might be a great drummer , but he's a great personality,, perfect fit for the Beatles, I had the privilege of spending 10 minutes with him , and all i can say is he's a regular great guy , not stuck up and a friend i would love to have, music aside.
He was often replaced and couldn't even do a proper drum roll.
Exactly, a perfect example is the drumming on something and a day in the life. Perfectly placed fills at slower tempos, and exactly what the Beatles needed
His drumming on "Here comes the Sun"" really impresses me...not being a drummer, I don't know how difficult it is.
I’ve read that it is kinda tricky…also not being a drummer myself
Not to mention Ringo more left hand dominant when playing as well which makes that even more impressive
I heard Dave Grohl say that Ringo is left handed but had learn to be right handed, so that's why he's unique as he's able to put a slight twist in his drumming style that others find hard to do.
this much I know is True
I heard Ringo say the very same thing in a video.
which makes the right hand hi-hat work even more impressive.. i could never do that shit with my non-dominant hand
True, Sally, and that's why there were some normal fills that Ringo really struggled with. That's also why Ringo invented some really unique fills, because he couldn't do some of the usual-sounding stuff.
THIS! He can play the down beats with back beat quickness, but can also (presumably) reverse that. It's like being a righty and learning piano...I always got messed up playing bass notes with the left hand, because that would be snare on drums lol
Ringo's brilliance lies in his musicality. He doesn't just hit the skins, he does it in perfect time and add fills at just the right musical moment. For a drummer who doesn't appreciate this they are merely a drummer. Ringo is a musician.
FitToBe TieDyed --- Absolutely Right !!!! Always the Difference -- Musician - and everyone else.... Thanks for this !!!
He was left handed and played a right handed kit
I don't know your skill level as a musician or your ear as a producer, they're always more mistakes in a live performance I've heard mistakes on stage by many artists from Prince to The Beatles I've heard Ringo make mistakes I've heard a couple in the recordings and if you push me I'd find them I just can't remember at the moment.
@@hubertpilk I think he was Urban dexterous😜
My favorite Beatles songs.... Particularly Dear Prudence... Was done by Paul, not Ringo...
absolutely fantastic video. Rosanna ... walk into any guitar center and there's always someone TRYING but messing it up !!! The second verse of that song when he lets the ghost notes start to have a little more life... its just the best... Of course Jeff said its no big deal, its just 2 iconic songs connected together in a brilliant creative way. A beat thats so easy , rarely can anyone do it and sound natural. Just like that fast shuffle.
I'm surprised you didn't pick "Tomorrow Never Knows". I'm not a drummer but I'm a BIG Beatles fan. To me, that beat is just CRAZY... and yet soothing. I just freaking LOVE this song.
I've always said that Ringo Starr is not the flashiest of drummers, but he is basically a human metronome.
"I am the click."-Ringo when Jeff Lynne asked him to play to a click track.
Ringo is so underappreciated. He is so good that he goes unnoticed. He works to support the band instead of showing off.
Absolutely ! - There are too many thinking of ´showing off´. - Ringo is a real musician, he understands all the other parts and doing always the best for the song !!
Good drummers aren't noticed by casual listeners. It means what they're playing fits the recording.
When drummers get too busy and start 'falling down the stairs' with their drums, that's when they tend to get noticed - for all the wrong reasons.
@@beeflat4287 Dave Grohl always said this of Taylor Hawkins, although Taylor tended to play with fairly complex patterns.
He's just underappreciated by certain audience. You can find more videos defending him as a good drummer than any other drummer in the world
underappreciated? hes one of the most famous, successful, and continuously appreciated artists of all time from any genre of any medium!
Love this video - shuffles are deceptive because they sound so relaxed and easy, but are a real bear to play and play well.
Whenever someone says “Ringo isn’t a Great Drummer”… I always offer them the same challenge:
_’Name _*_one_*_ Beatles song where the Drumming is _*_not_*_ absolutely perfect for the Music-and tell me how it could’ve been better’._
I’m still waiting for an answer.
My late uncle used to say, whenever you see someone doing something and it looks so very easy, it never is. It is usually the result of a lot of work and talent. That surely applies to Ringo Star's drumming. He looks so relaxed and at ease when he is playing the drums, but if you try to replicate it, you are in for a big surprise.
You ( and your uncle! ) are so right!!!
That is a brilliant anecdote!!
Music has a whole lot to do with faking it.
Oh, yeah. Your uncle is on point.
People with developed skills may look like they're having an easy time- the reality is that they can be a having a hard time but they just don't look it because they've practiced and are used to it.
You had a wise uncle ..
Wise uncle, you had...
As a non-drummer, I think the best thing about Ringo is that he's like a composer. His parts are so organically intertwined with the song that you can easily tell what song it is from hearing just the drum track.
A friend of mine that's been a drummer for 50 years said the very same thing. You can name the song just from hearing Ringo's drums.
So true!
YES!! It's not just his playing, it's his composition too. I completely agree with you!
Absolutely not. They’re so intertwined they don’t even feel like distinguishing parts.
@@unclefuggly7149 That's pretty much true of any drummer and a band they are really into. Guns and roses had mediocre drummers but I doubt there is a GNR song I can't recognize by drums alone.
To me, it's the simplicity but near perfection of Starr's playing that makes it so good.
On the point - brilliant. 👍
Nobody has to or can be good at everything, but everyone has their strengths.
Knowing your own strengths and weaknesses makes you a tastefully good musician.
Thank you for your video.
I think people need to understand that just because a drummer isn’t smashing cymbals and doing a bunch of rolls or double foot kicks, it doesn’t mean they suck. Doing beats like these and holding them is incredibly challenging.
Straight up. I see how hard it is for the tambourines in the musical group I'm in to keep the tempo, it's pretty easy to fluctuate by accident. Ringo being able to keep his tempo all the way through, while also doing some of his funnier beats, is really impressive.
Yeah, it honestly makes those rolls and stuff way more impressive, especially when they manage to go back to the original pattern
Ringo’s drumming made Paul’s bass really stand out. They make a perfect combo
Paul's bass playing is something else that is under rated.
@DigitalJustice Yes, the drums and bass have to really knit together well, or all is lost.
Listen to rubber soul with just bass and drums. It's out there on youtube and it's just so good.
He was no Keith Moon just as Paul was no John Entwhistle, but their playing was just right for the Beatles.
Not a drummer, but I loved playing the drums on Beatles Rockband. So nice beats on the base drum.
New to the channel: very impressed with the quality and range, professionalism of your work. 👋👋👋👋
I've worked with so many drummers. Usually, the ones who loved to show off can't keep time to save their lives. Keeping time, knowing when to embellish and when to just keep simple time, and knowing how to play for the sake of the song and not for yourself is something that takes skill and maturity. Good drummers are NOT a dime a dozen.
That goes for all musicians, no matter what instrument they play.
So true!
We are on our 5th drummer in 8 years. The first was the best! Great timing, solid foot work, and rarely ticked! The guy we have now is good but he doesn't understand how to sit in the pocket and always is adding fills! But the worst is the ticking!! Ugh...
Amen
They are different skills. Carl Palmer is a part of Emerson, Lake and Palmer a group of talented musicians, but he can’t keep a steady beat to save his life
The same is true with funk guitar. A lot of guitarists think funk is easy, but maintaining a fast and complex strumming pattern throughout an entire song, and staying in the pocket the whole time, is no easy task.
Folks think funk is easy? Crikey, they've obviously never listened to 70s James Brown.
I wanted to learn funk song as a beginner and halted when i look at the tabs I'm still trying but to no avail
@@stevenlornie1261 Speed metal guitarists who beat off on the fretboard and play fast licks with no rhythm often claim that funk is "easy"
You don't really have to stay in the pocket though. The Hi Hat covers that. Plenty of funk guitar is sloppy. Between the hat and the wah it really doesn't matter.
Chord TheSeeker
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The Beatles were covering a Buck Owens number, with Ringo singing the Owens vocal parts.
Ringo's playing fit the song, which is a high compliment. Same with George's guitar solos. The Beatles embodied taste.
They weren't virtuosos and they knew it. But they parlayed a great blend of intelligence, taste, humor and talent into a legacy loved by music appreciators everywhere.
What makes Ringo one of the best drummers ever is his talent for CREATING beats. It's relatively easy to play most Ringo's parts, but the difference is that he actually created them from scratch.
@@aaronsinger Jealous?
@@aaronsinger Fake news. You must live in your misery alone.
@@aaronsingerI didn't know you were the 5th Beatle. Please tell us more about your insight into your studio recordings with them.
No no Ringo’s stuff is not easy to play well. It’s easy to play the notes though
totally agree...the only thing I would add is that Ringo's beats were also always very musical; somethng that isnt prevalent in modern music.
In addition to his drumming talents, something also has to be said about his ability to get along with people, because when the Beatles broke up he was the only one nobody hated.
"Why can't we all just get along?"
I saw an interview with Phil Collins, who was saying that occasionally he'd put on his "Ringo hat" and try to copy his feel and some of his fills. Phil said they're not as easy as you would think. Pretty good testimonial.
I think Ringo and Micky Dolenz are underrated as great drummers, especially singing drummers, with how "simple" their songs seem to have been. Not to mention singing drummers weren't too common back then.
After watching Get Back, seeing Ringo just coming up with beats for each new song like he's already heard that song before is just amazing, nobody even tells him what to do.
Exactly and sometimes that will help establish the next piece of music when they hear the feel of the beat, truly a shame how his name has become synonymous with "talentless" and "lucky to be here", people who know nothing about it talk crap about him.
Good point. And yet Paul was said to sometimes feel superior enough to show Ringo what he wanted Ringo to play.
@@surfwriter8461 "feel superior enough"? Maybe he just had a clear idea what he wants.
John told him what to do all the time.
@@surfwriter8461 it's not Ringo's song tho, sometimes either Paul or John has a clear idea of how they would like the song to sound like. Just like how George told Paul about playing the bass in Something.
Early ringo has a way of swishing his stick on the hi hat left/right which I think is part of how he kept such a fast and swinging groove going. His parts are so inventive and perfectly supportive to every song.
In addition, Ringo is a left hander playing on a righthanded drum Kit
@@gregoryjenkins8645 Just to elaborate on left-handed people playing right handed things: Kurt Cobain was not 100% left-handed; he did everything else with his right hand, except play guitar. For some reason, as a predominantly right-handed person, he felt more comfortable playing guitar left-handed. Also, I don't even think it even qualifies him to be called ambidextrous.
The signature ringo swish!
You said something actually key to this discussion..."...perfectly supportive to every song.". Whatever any of us may think about his playing or rating as a drummer, he was THE drummer for the Beatles.
It's a figure 8 that has a completely different feel on the upstroke than the downstroke. It's almost impossible to master. I've been trying for years.
The great part about Act Naturally is that it's a Buck Owens cover and the drum part is virtually identical, you can tell the influence American country music had on him and the rest of the Beatles. At first I thought you were going to say I Feel Fine which is one of my all time favorite drum parts because it really swings alternates into a rock beat then switches back to the swinging r&b groove.
I don't much about drum tech but Ringo is a phenomenal human being and the entire list of the worlds greatest artists who had the honour of joining him on stage would most certainly back that fact.
“She Said She Said” in my opinion is his best drumming. Phenomenal. Couple of ghost notes in it. The key to Ringo’s playing is that he’s actually left handed.
Exactly. I seem to remember Dave Stewart asking him about it and citing the strange late downbeats and patterns on "Ticket to Ride" and "Come Together."
I said something similar before seeing this comment.
Ringos fave song of his is Rain….to showcase his drumming…
Ringo's fave is Rain
She Said She Said and Rain are my favorite Ringo Beatles tracks. Also happen to be tow of my top 5 favorite Beatles songs. Strawberry Fields Forever, #1.
One thing about Ringo. He is infinitely better than people realise. He is in fact left handed yet played a right handed kit. Incredible
Not unusual or even remarkable
@Jory Corvid That’s a fair point. And would be relevant except for the fact that it’s not unusual or remarkable literally because of Ringo Star.
Willie Smith did that his whole career with Muddy. Fran Christina with the Fabulous Thunderbirds the same.
When I started drumming and my instructor had me learn Come Together, it became the most fun and interesting piece to learn since i had to emulate some of Ringo's playstyle.
Many people didn't realize he was left handed playing on a right handed drum kit. When I found that out it blew me away.
All My Lovin'.
I could go through and pick out a lot of Beatles songs where even though the beat is not complex, it's still challenging and the stuff he did earlier tended to be harder to play because of the speed of the beat he played, often as you highlighted, with a shuffle. The stuff they played later didn't really lend itself well to a shuffle.
In those early days, Liverpool bands left and right were playing in Hamburg for weeks and months at a time.. Pete Best, as you well know, was The Beatles' drummer at that point, and Ringo was with Rory Storm and the Hurricanes. I don't know it as fact, but my belief is that the Hurricanes more than likely did a stint in Hamburg. Lennon, McCartney, and Harrison all talk(ed) about how Hamburg was like a proving ground, with sets lasting 10-12 hours a night if not more. With a schedule like that, you can see why Preludin became essential. If Ringo had a residency in Hamburg, where all bands played exponentially more hours than they would have in England, he probably plays that way from having that many hours behind the kit.
Great video, sir.
There's a video of him playing Act Naturally live on the Ed Sullivan show (no lip-synching!). He's playing that super-fast shuffle on the hi-hat, in perfect time, while singing and looking totally relaxed and at ease, even smiling. Many have said negative things about him - myself included - but I garnered a new respect for him having seen that video.
Any negative comment about Ringo is rooted in ignorance
Watching any live recordings of them really brings home how good they were and how professional and well rehearsed. And the fact they all made it look easy is even more to their credit.
@@garthdrake3220 100% correct. Thank you.
I've met Ringo personally in L.A. at some cafee joint. At first I had no idea of who he was . But he was such a great person to me from the get go till the end of our regular conversations and he taught me lots of real history that he personally went thru .
I truly respect that man as a person and as an greatest musicians of all time !!
Lucky!!
@@chriskourlos4407 Yessss! Can you believe !? That Ringo Starr !!! One of the Original members of The Beatles !!! The man hanged around with Paul ! John ! George ! And started The Beatles!!!?? My gosh ! 😱😱😱
& talkin to you with just normal regular conversations ?! Like any other human being would do ?? When he introduced himself to me in a end... I was completely stunned with starstruck !!!! 😂🤣👍👍👍 Thanks God he told me his name in a end of our conversation because if he told me at first ? then I could have not even open my mouth to talk !! LMAO 🤣
My cousin met Mark Zuckerberg in Hawaii but she didnt recognize him and asked him to take a photo for her to post on Twitter. He said "Do you know who I am?" and she said no. He didnt take the photo.
@@reginaldcampos5762my guy has an ego complex jeez
@@iwontbebeat7111 Just curios, did he say Ringo Starr or Richard Starke?
Ringo played in Skiffle bands before the Beatles so he played a jazz , bluesy, country style of beat with ease before anything rocky so he was very versatile.
Great commentary, thank you...❤
People may say that about Ringo, but there’s always these little nuances about his playing that helped him become one of the most influential rock drummers
Andrew - He didn't influence anybody...
@@pit2ryan3 What are you talking about? There are plenty of drummers who have praised and were inspired by Ringo.
Thank you . I once saw a video of Ringo and his grown son playing drums together. It appeared that they were playing exactly the same , except Ringo like you said made it look easy , while his son looked wild like he was having trouble keeping up . To me Ringo is one of the most underrated. He doesn’t overplay , not a showboat, but incredible musicality .
And with so many egos and such a wide array of talent, and potential clicks Ringo was the glue in a way. Think if he were like most great drummers, notoriously aloof. The Beatles may have been limited.
He was always rock solid, present, and appreciative. Other people may have been too young to appreciate the Beatles, or got too big too soon. But Ringo knew what was happening while it happened, and what they would be missing if they broke up. I could never understand the disrespect for Ringo Starr.
Practice is the secret for speed and stamina. There is no other way. It looks easy with Ringo because he practiced it for a long long time, many years, his wrists and his muscles got flexible and sufficiently enduring to play his songs without being tired.
What is the most astonishing for me is he played in suits and so with restrictions for his moves while keeping him very warm.
@@brianshaker1885 You forgot he invented and created a lot of modern beats or at least, he gave a direction for other people to improve it. The mistake not to make is looking at him with modern eyes and taking him out of the context of the time he was succesfull.
Zac was taught by Keith Moon to play drums so that could be the reason
@@coyote728 you beat me to it!
Thank you for substantiating the quality of Ringo's skills
Honestly this reminds me of a lot of punk and metal drumming; it's just so much endurance.
Every beat he came up with was the perfect accompaniment for every song, that is an artform in itself.
Yes I wholeheartedly agree!!
Seriously, he helped make some of the greatest rock music of all time and he's a legend who cares if he didn't have 150 pieces in his kit
It’s the same one tho. Like it doesn’t fucking change.
@@billyalarie929 Im not going down that rabbit hole,lmao
Took me over 40 years to understand how good Ringo is. Grew up with the Beatles, but not being a drummer, I didn’t understand how highly regarded he is as a drummer until I started seeing CZcams videos like this one. How astounding is it that these four guys found each other when they were little more than young bundles of potential? As a jazz aficionado, I became a fan of the great jazz bass players, Jaco to name just one. It wasn’t until I got to hear better Beatles recordings that brought out Paul’s bass that I realized how good he is.
They used jazz cords on alot of their songs especially on there early recording which come out like total pop songs.
Listen to Mac's bass on 'I saw her standing there'; absolutely KILLER. All four men were SUPERB musicians.
Yeah Paul McCartney (among others) was one of the reasons I even picked up bass guitar. He isn't appreciated for his basslines enough
@@ashleighsalinas8526 I don't think Paul isn't appreciated for his bass play. He is consistently ranked amongst top 10 bass player of all time on many site, as well as revered by many bass player.
The thing is... He has so many other accomplishment, as songwriter, vocalist, lead singer of Beatles/Wings, and multi instrumentalist. It just overlooked and dwarved by his other accomplishment, particularly as one of The Beatles songwriter.
They were the first "put together' boy band. Who do you think sent them to Hamburg and paid for the whole thing? They didn't do that alone, there was always a deep pocket paying for the path to success. Nothing has changed, they were the Blueprint if you like.
Ringos right hand used to swing from left to right on each stroke on the high hat also.
Ringo was a metronome! And that is the main purpose of a drummer! He and Charlie Watts were the heartbeats of their respective bands.
Ringo was like a human clock keeping time. & he always kept it "in the pocket" never stepping on anyone's toes or trying to outshine anyone, just provided a steady beat and complimented the song.
And for drummers who played too loud, I had a music teacher who always said "a good drummer is felt, not heard."
Regarding playing too loud, the famed jazz drummer, Tony Williams (RIP), studied under the legendary Alan Dawson. Dawson had Tony practice until he could play incredibly intricate & complex rhythms at a volume such that you could carry on a normal conversation while standing next to the drum kit!
That's honestly a pretty dumb and limited take from your music teacher.
Thank you very much for that enlightened statement, as I have held that is the most important thing about a drummer since day 1 I started playing. Drums are meant to be felt not just heard. (all about the tuning).
Ringo did keep time very well from what I see. His drumming was over simplistic and non technical for me. As long as his band and his fans are fine with it, none of my business
Exactly.
One thing that seems to get missed, is the Beatles have a very eclectic catalog, and the drum parts are as eclectic to go along with them. Not only could Ringo play, but he came up with the parts for the songs, and that worked perfectly with the song. That's where a lot of drummers fall behind. Sure, technically, they could play a lot of his stuff, but could they have come up with it in the first place? There's the true genius. That as his well known ability to keep perfect time. Truly the backbone of the band.
Not just that, but he behaved differently based on who wrote the song-- he knew paul had a set rhythm already in plan but john would let him experiment more, and george was kinda like john too from what I recall, but he didn't mind either and he adapted to each song naturally
Hardly. They were a pop group, that is all. There were/are far more accomplished musicians far more worthy of your adulation.
@@paulsawtell3991 And how many instruments can you play?
@@paulsawtell3991 ah a dildo
@ Paul Sawtell
A comment like “They were a pop group, that is all” disqualifies you from having a valid opinion on Ringo or the Beatles in the first place. Rock and roll was never about technical virtuosity or accomplished musicianship but about the joy of singing and playing in a tight band and pissing off the grownups and authority figures, whom you sound exactly like. That’s one of the main reasons all the kids went out, got instruments, and started bands after seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan. You literally don’t know what you’re talking about.
Nice seeing a young Beatles fan. I'm old, and they formed around when I was born. That's staying power.
Wow! I'm so glad I found this video because Ringo Starr was the reason I started playing drums as a kid. And I just recently said the same thing to my wife a couple of days ago. Well the shuffle beat is a very challenging groove and I have a new found respect for Mr. Ringo Star.
Two things about Ringo's drumming that has always stood out to me are, 1) He has perfect meter, and 2) He plays to the song, without a bunch of excessive junk notes.
So he’s boring and brings no flavor. Why would you call that “junk notes”?
@@billyalarie929 drums are classified as rhythm instruments for a reason. I take it you got used to drummers like John Bonham, Roger Taylor, or Phil Collins who loved improvising. However, you can see drummers like Ringo Starr, Herman Rarebell, and Tico Torres who just stuck with the rhythm that the song was supposed to follow, and still the damn songs they play sounded good because of their drumming. Imagine Bonham smashing the life out of his drums while playing "Come Together". It does not work.
@@billyalarie929 boring and brings no flavor? listen to rain, come together, the end, ticket to ride, and tell me why, and then come back to me and tell me that exact same thing.
@@billyalarie929 have you ever heard the phrase "less is more?"
Sure, there are drummers out there that just blow you away every time you hear them, and sure, Ringo might not necessarily be a drummer you'd put on that list, but something that made him great was that he could always provide exactly what the song needed.
You could add all sorts of fills and drum solos here and there, but the key point is that there's not a Beatles song where if you listen to it you go "the drums make this song unlistenable, they should have done this or that" because Ringo could always provide what was necessary for the song, and in songs like rain or she said she said, you can even see how creative he can get with the pauses and fills and all sorts, while also feeling 100% essential
TLDR: Ringo was a very economical player, he always gave a song just what it needed to have that pep in its step
These are the two most important things.
As a fellow drummer, I can honestly say Ringo is one of the most under appreciated percussionists. Not over rated.
He gets put at the very top of drummer rankings whaddya fkn mean he's underrated, he didn't even break intermediate, he just had the basics down a bit more solid than most
@Jeremy Spade Really?I never see his name mentioned when you see lists of great rock drummers
@@spartansquid5931 You didn’t read that very well. The other poster did not say that Ringo is underrated. They said under appreciated.
@Jeremy Spade No, Ringo is not overrated. In fact, he’s underrated. Whenever someone knows that they’re full of it, they laugh for no reason.
Percussionist might be a bit of a stretch.
Ringo's and the other Beatles formative band years were playing 6-8 hours, sometimes 12 hours long gigs, with intervals every half hour, on Hamburg port's brothels. After 3-4 years like that, everything is playing relaxed.