PRE-ARRIVAL Broken Arrow Fire Department House Fire 9-27-21
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- čas přidán 27. 09. 2021
- Engine 1, Engine 4, Engine 7, FD113, FD211, FD212, FD313, NUMEROUS Training Units, Ladder 6, Rescue 1, Squad 3, and Squad 7 Responded to the Reported Residential Structure Fire at 13:57 on September 27th, 2021.
B-shift crews responded to the scene of a residential structure fire with smoke coming from the edges of the garage doors. Upon their arrival, they discovered a fully involved fire in the garage. Due to the number of combustible materials, the heat and flames were extreme. Crews acted quickly to extinguish the fire and limit the spread to the rest of the house. All occupants were able to safely exit the residence, and no injuries were reported.
Here’s an A shift fire video if you would like to watch it. czcams.com/video/EMAQGFQ3BGA/video.html
Just to answer a few frequently asked questions.
1. Broken Arrow Fire Department is a paid ISO Class 1 Department.
2. I don’t have any sort of go fund me information or any way to help the family. There was word that it’s a former firefighter. I can’t confirm or deny that. But y’all are great for wanting to help the family.
3. As for manpower, each engine and ladder have 3 personnel. Ladder 6 (the ladder on scene) had 2 riding, and one following in the brush truck. There were 3 engines and one ladder on scene. You can do the math. There were also 4 Firefighters between two ambulances that could help with fire attack.
Broken Arrow Oklahoma?
@@jayjay-bz3rr yup
This is the most leisurely firefighting I've ever seen. Was it a training exercise?
@@jablot5054 I was thinking the same thing. Godamn 🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@bh2556 just like the Jamacan fire depth,maybe tomorrow man.
I couldn't help but scream TURN THE HOSE ON!!!! The whole time. The lack of urgency is absolutely heartbreaking foe these home owners to watch.
Right I agree ✌️😳
Turtle
As a fire fighter for several decades I was completely in shock. There is obviously a severe lack of training here. This was painful to watch
Thank you for saying that, they look totally incompetent!!
these firefighters are bound to have nuclei !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Não sabiam lidar com a mangueira, que que é isso??😱
@@tthomas501 Verdade
Were you also a troll while working?
Я бы таких профессионалов выгнала с работы всех до одного ! С такой работой молоко прокиснет !
Old dude with the garden hose took down more flames than ladder company 6 and 8 combined.
The fact that they gave the fire air by cutting the garage door without any water ready to go is complete insanity and I've never had a minute of fire training.
They had a crew inside already.....very poor tactics
@@adamkeye5197 EXactly, I'd love to hear whether the interior team requested horizontal ventilation of the garage door. If they did not, or command did not instruct those dueling teams of morons... It just doesn't make sense, from someone who had 5 years in fire service, and 20 years as a news photojournalist covering fires, i've been on well over 1k structure fires in my lifetime. This was like watching a benny hill skit. Fuck all out of SOP.
They forgot to bring water with them.
I piss a better stream
If I was part of this fire department I’d quit in shame.
A very weak response with no organizational skills. Took forever to get water .
Their firefighting skills are like something out of the three stooges.
You know not a expect by any means but geez they don’t seem to be the best .
👎👎👎 they don't have any experience the first thing they have to do is open the door 😂 and come to the house to bigin to dress up 🐼🤔🤣🙄
🤣🤣🤣👎👎👎👎👎👎
😂😂😂😂 you are very correct! At the beginning Their hose were like the pee of a drunk man.
This has to be a comedy skid!!! There’s no wayyyyyyyyyy
Oh, my God, I can't even finish watching this. This breaks my heart. Them guys are so slow I don't think they know what they are doing
Been there for over 14 minutes and no water on the fire AMAZING
False. 2:25 into the video...they walked into the front door with a charged line. We are all hoping that you are not a fire fighter.
I see 9 min with water on it that is not to bad from arrival to cutting the door down and getting water on it in 9 min and did it safely with nobody getting hurt yes that is AMAZING
Lot of things could have been done different here, I reallly hope this department uses this footage for training on what not to do.
A joke
I just wish they would have been ready to go on air the minute they stepped out of the engine. Lots of time waisted there. Good as they made an interior attack first but I was afraid the outside crew was going to push it back down on them when they did get the garage door open.
Literally. I was so mad
@@wheelslip no need for the cutoff saw , those doors are basically trash and so thin that one push take's to take them down , and slow/not prepared firefighters , lots of wasted time and untrained personel
@@wheelslip some depts are going to the clean cab design which means bunker gear and air packs are in the truck cabinets and they don't Don them until arrival. This is to reduce carcinogen inhalation (they also decon and doff the gear and stow it back in the cabinets on the ride to quarters and then into the laundry after each fire). Supposedly, response times are faster by waiting to Don on scene, but I haven't seen that data to confirm. The big question I had at first was why they didn't take down the garage door immediately since it was where the most smoke was being emitted? Of course, I wasn't there to fully assess.....
Most lethargic firefighting effort I’ve ever seen
You dont run at a fire scene.
@@jimlahey5733 Do you spray water at a fire scene? I don't think the opposite of lethargic is run. It means get the lead out, pick up the pace, hustle, quick step, double time. However, Sootlickers always have an excuse for protecting the thin red line.
@@jimlahey5733 no you don't run at a fire scene but you also don't walk like you have no shits to give about this person's property. And I am a firefighter.
I think the guys that came to my fire could give these guys a crawl for their money and the Chief at my fire actually got caught standing in a loop of hose and when they pulled the hose he went down. I always thought firefighters rushed . They rush like a herd of turtles. I will blame that on the suits and if its hot I can imagine you can energy drain quickly The guys I had had no training , they used the building later for training .
This is why we always critique a fire incident ASAP. Starting out with the positive what we did right, and what we could've done better. For this fire I would start out with the positive Miraculously no one was injured or killed. Let's start out with full PPE with SCBA on before anyone gets near the the hot zone. Forcible entry in this case with heavy smoke puffing out the garage, you need a hoseline backup. Need to consider assigning a truck crew to vent group on the roof. Have interior group check for extension in the attic, if not done already. Keep in mind that heavy black smoke like that pumping out of the garage openning is fuel and it will eventually ignite into flames. It was good they went with a 2 1/2" hose, but too late in the game. Plus it looked as though the engineer was very slow in charging that line with water. More training is definitely needed with the stressing of full PPE including SCBAs, fireground operations, and use of saws.
My Brother was a firefighter having since retired and moved to Australia where he now lives. Once he retired he became a tutor at Glasgow Airport, Scotland. He once told me he`s seen things no-one else should see. Firefighters the World over deserve our undying respect and should get it without asking. All heroes !
Quite agree aa firefighter front line in the UK I was really surprise at the lack and fire attack at the incident,but praise to ALL FIREFIGHTERS wherever they are 🤔🤔😐
I never seen firemans working so slowly in my life. They lost house because of losing time.
I agree with you !
The department i volunteered at would not allow this. We always had water on the fire within 45 seconds of being on scene. That includes making entry, VES. We would have most of the fire out before auto aid showed up. This is ridiculous.
It's Oklahoma. Everyone here is fat and slow
@@petarneykov3189 😩🍔🍟🍕 !!!
Very slow
This is the perfect video on what NOT to do. Everything and I mean everything was absolutely wrong.
I was looking for this exact comment to comment on. My 9 year old son was asking why were they doing this and that. I told him, “son this a department that doesn’t fight fires on a regular and will get someone hurt or killed. No Monday morning QB here for those that think so, 24yrs in a busy city and a Training Captain for my platoon. Why would you wrap your attack lines with velcro? Why not flake from your shoulder. Why the non-chalant attitude in getting masked up to save life and property? Not gonna comment about the garage door, too easy. Why open the roof AFTER the bulk of the fire has been knocked down? Just a few questions for the critique portion. I would defer inspections for a month and do nothing but live fire training at their million dollar facility. Jus sayin.
@@juanrivera1143 I am a civilian looking at getting into the fire service so I could be wrong here, but it seems a bit stupid that some of these dudes are pulling the garage door down without being on air. I would think they would be at a very high risk for inhaling cancer causing particles.
@@dylananderson4722 First I would hope that you find a department to give you the opportunity to fulfill your dream bud. It is a GREAT job!!!
Your Exactly right on those members not on air. Cancer in the fire service is at an all-time high due to the products of combustion in the newer materials AND common sense mistakes like this. You will move up the ranks quickly if you don’t do anything that you saw on this video. Good luck on your fu Ute endeavors Dylan.
I am not a fireman but I agree so much was slow and not thinking on the fly.
@@juanrivera1143 retired here , but what are you thoughts on the effectiveness of a piercing nozzle through the garage door to buy some time while stretching --- talking a about a quick one man operation (we had a piercing nozzle with a 100 ft in a bundle in a compartment ) so pretty quick deployment. Wasted effort vs results ?
This is a perfect video of what not to do when attempting to stop a structor fire.
Wow, thanks for taking that from bad to worse!👨🚒👩🚒🧑🚒🚒🚒🚒
You can’t even pee straight into a toilet bowl
I couldn’t figure out whether the fireman were trying to put out the fire or just allow it to burn! Shocked at what I saw.
How not to fight a fire!
Lol… scene taped off at end as reports come in that 14 men were seen acting suspiciously in the area dressed as firefighters
Same this was my home town at one point buy now I'm in tulsa really Hope they got better training
Have seen that on more videos of different US fire departments. Total difference with firemen here in the Netherlands.
How not to fight a fire. Nobody thought it would be a good idea to lay into a working fire? These guys, through lack of command, burned this home. I hope the insurance company saw this video.
My heart goes out to the elderly gentleman trying whatever he can to try and slow down the fire. So sad.
he will be fine everything is covered under homeowners insurance Even the hotel rooms
@@Pinkielover yes but insurance can't replace memories or photos. Some of the most important items in my home are things that could never be replaced
Lính chửa cháy giống mấy em học sinh cấp 3 học chửa cháy , phải cháy cho cháy hết lấy tiền bảo hiểm cất lai nhà mới
He Is a retired Firefighter from Tulsa. A waaaaayyy more aggressive Dept. So this must of been extremely painful to watch. Should of just gave the old salt an SCBA and their turnout gear, we know they didn't need it.
TFD=Good old boys, hard working, aggressive and under paid
BAFD=Boys Club, overpaid, non-interior and overpaid.
TFD is hiring BTW.
@@seanmeg it's 2022. If your photos aren't backed up digitally somewhere outside your home...well, you should do that right now.
These guys needs to watch the movie Fireproof and watch how quickly they responded. They are fighting this fire like they’re paid by the hr.
Хорошие были машины! Пожарные работают прямо скажем не спеша! С такими работничками весь дом выгореть успеет! Наши несравненно лучшие!
The home owner was doing a better job with his garden hose.
Dream on
I agree
@@Pinkielover Aerosmith.
An absolute shambles from start to finish my heart goes out to the home owners
If They Could Sue They Should
Absolute shambles? How? They did a fantastic job. Garage fires are a pain in the ass to get water on quickly compared to a regular structure. Yes, looks like there was a com issue trying to get the second line charged and that delayed them a bit. Other than that, they did a good job. Great teamwork, and they knocked it out.
Let's break it down
A: When arriving on scene, there no visible flames, only heavy smoke coming from the garage doors. This means it's in the garage. B: Only real way to access the garage to fight a fire there is the outside door. C: Once you own that up, that's fresh O2 and it's gonna just feed, that's exactly what it did. D: No they can't just open the doors, because now what if the fire is in the ceiling? Well you just put the door in the way! Wasting time closing it to cut it off anyway. E: Again, yes charging the second line seemed to have been delayed for some reason. You can see the hose crew several times trying to signal to have it charged. F: They had the first line charged fast, and went in to see what they could do from the inside while they created access from the outside. E: Fire was knocked out in what appears to be about 20 minutes. Based on the description and the little bit of chatter in the video, sounds like something exploded inside before they arrived, and there was a lot of combustible things that just fed the fire too.
So again, how was this an "absolute shambles from start to finish" as you claim?
Looks like it was fine to me shut up
@Allison shut up is that the best you can come up with 6 months after the post
If their insurance company sees these videos, premiums are quadrupling!
What bunch of clowns!
Imaging how frustrating it must be for the homeowner to stand there and watch this lot stroll around as if they are out for a walk in the park.
The delay in getting water into the second garage just about sums up the ability of this crew.
Disgraceful.
These guys are slower than molasses in January! I'm surprised the house didn't burn clear to the ground.
Slower than molasses in winter time, the outlaw Josey Wales
Wow they were moving incredibly fast! A huge show of urgency said no one ever. Good grief
This fire department must have a share in a fire restoration business
Maybe. There's plenty of career firefighters with side businesses out there.
Dude , they know the whole place has to be gutted the first few minutes on arrival, there’s no need to spaz out and rush things, it’s not like they’re going to save anything
I love the dueling cuts on the first garage door, absolutely no coordination between the two cutters. Horrible tactics and absolute dismal sense of urgency from anyone on this scene. Nice job causing more damage to the structure by venting the roof when there was literally NO SMOKE coming out of the vented ridge cap! I’m embarrassed for them…
🤣 I was laughing when the dude started cutting a triangle. What a potato 🤦♀️
the vertical venting puzzled me also -
I think the roof cut at the end was a part of overhaul, not venting. You know, because the fire got into the attic and never should have.
@@corey97140 I suppose that’s a logical reason, however, as an IC myself I would never allow my crews to cut a roof open for overhaul, I send them in through the attic scuttles. I read a comment that this is a paid department, if this is true their training Division has failed their community.
@@davidrossman7925 definitely. It looks like a finished attic, so you should be able to pull ceiling and access that area. So your guess is as good as mine. 🤨 Definitely poor execution all the way around.
Broken Arrow must stand for Broken Fire department I hope they use this video as a training exercise, so many mistakes were made. ( Oh and when you get to fire move your ase's a bit quicker)
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one to noticed how slow they were.
@@vickytownsend1646 guess venting roof option
No doubt should be on air leaving the engine they lost as soon as they vented what was the interior attack crew doing? Its been long time ago for basic fundamentals but I recall for that type of fire fog fog fog stream am I all wet wet here. Kenneth Boren not my computer barrowed.
I worked at McDonald's and had to move faster than that 🍔
They act like it's their first day in training. Moving as if they didn't have a clue. Wow
You can see at 5:10 the fire is in the garage and is starting to be starved for oxygen, you can see how the smoke comes out, then is immediately sucked back in. Need to have at least 2 lines ready at the door, them either lift the door, it if it's stuck, have 2 guys with k12s at each end. They both make vertical cuts up, the center section falls down, opening the hole and have the 2 hose teams knock down the fire. Then check for extension and hot spots. Mop up and go home.
Edit: at 5:45, whoever is in charge of maintenance, should be shot! That engine should have started in 2-3 pulls. I maintain our power units on our Hurst tools, and we've started them in 10 degree weather with no more than 3 pulls
perfect assessment..even more efficient, a decent sized hole saw bore through the middle of the door..less than 3 secs..you could have x2 bore holes cut twice the diameter of the hose in half the time it took them to even start that circ saw...that door alu is paper thin....astonishing...i genuinely thought it was a training video...sad ..this is the result of taking the vaccx probably..
Мне нравится как они работают, не спеша, потихоньку и главное аккуратно
и поют песенку - Гори, гори ясно! Чтобы не погасло...
Шесть минут на развёртывание...просто песец.
Работают как в штаны налажили!😂
they might as well have finished their coffee before arriving. Pathetic fire fighting. This was like watching The Three Stooges without all the slapping and punching each other.
lol
@@durandjohnson1321 Ha
there is much worse video than this one...
🤣🤣🤣
As a fire service instructor for over 25 years it pains me to watch this video. I routinely discourage public criticism of fire ground tactics,however, I pray the leadership of this department uses this video as a n opportunity to evaluate fire ground operations from a personal safety perspective, the betterment if this department and the benefit to all of the citizens they may serve. There are so many serious errors demonstrated here not fault of the individuals you see here but a failure of leadership at the highest level. Please act now before it's too late! As for the home owner this video serves as evidence of negligence, duty owed, duty breeched, foreseeability, significant total loss property damage. Sorry brothers just had to comment.
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BA has more money than brain's, the city has a history of piss poor management.
Thank you for speaking up and advocating for change
They also move like they have MOLASSES in their behinds.
I was giving them the benefit of the doubt & have so much respect for the firemen. But as a regular person watching this, I thought something is lacking in their actions. Thanks for confirming it, I thought I was expecting too much. I sure hope they got more training.
Much love to our Neighbors in BA from Tulsa! Still some of my favorite colors in a rig in the state.
were seeing old head cutting the door and a newer fire fighter cutting the door. That's awesome to see the difference in training we now teach the triangle and fold in now but we used to back in essentials days teach a square fold in i thought that was amazing to see lol
This house should not have had so much damage. The crew needs to go back and get retrained...
I agree they really were dragging their feet
Do you know anything about fire fighting? Water flowing and inside in 2 minutes is excellent. If the fire had a serious head start there is nothing they can do to make up for that. They were very quick.
@@chuckman231 dude that was the most lackadaisical attack I've seen in awhile and yes I am a firefighter.
@@chuckman231 bro…
@@chuckman231 doesn't take a firefighter to see its a lazy pathetic display of skills and ambition.
What a mess. Horrible “tactics”. Embarrassing to say the least.
Why take down the garage door and not have water at the ready???
Agreed, not only did their procedures and attack plan seem unorganized but this is, by far, the slowest moving fire department team I've ever seen
Yes, it's very sad to note the non-chalance as well as the non-professionalist of the firefighters. 😤
But we all have to agree on this one, that we have to applause 👏 the way this house was built and the fantastic fireproof construction of the garage ceiling and walls. Without that, it's for sure this beautiful home will be good for demolition.
It looked like they spent more time tidying up than fighting the fire!
Probably very good at mva's!
I love all fire fighters and appreciate their dedication. . Watching this video and counting over 3 minutes until water was utlized? The Germans have the Striker 4×4, w made by Oshkosh. The Striker 4×4 offers “innovative fire suppression. The moment the Striker fire truck arrives it can dispense fire suppressants without having to get out of the vehicle.
Im agreeng with the other comments.
The lack of urgency is absolutely heartbreaking for these homeowners to watch. This was painful to watch.
Old dude with the garden hose took down more flames than ladder company 6 and 8 combined.
Shocked at what I saw.
What I can see the most is the very little will and empathy to promptly attend to the fire
From the UK, I'm always amazed just how long it takes you guys just to get water onto the fire. Then to cut open the doors without having a team with a hose ready is just ridiculous. Would you perform better if it were a crew member's house? First guy out of the truck takes a hose to the front door then spends time untying it?...
It’s a preconnected hose in a bundle. Is useful for quick deployment if you have a solid D/O and are familiar with your equipment
They know the whole place has to be gutted on arrival, why should they spaz out on the scene?
@@richardlacey4923 Looking at the comments, most seem to agree with me.
Would agree with previous comments, clearly, the lack of oxygen was holding back the fire, so surely before cutting open the garage door you would make sure that water was charged and available at the hose before proceeding.?
Oh and the TeePee cut on the garage door was a nice touch ......Take that saw away from him !
@@frankbudelman7113 yep --the main purpose of a tepee cut is to spread the load on a bearing wall , sadly a lot of the fire service have no actual knowledge of the whys
@@slackjawedyokel1 What bearing wall...what the fuck does that mean...that's a garage door !
@@frankbudelman7113 triangle would be something u learn in kindergarten.
@@frankbudelman7113 if they were just going to take down the garage door why wouldn't they just cut right down the middle and pull it out?
This is just confusing . Seemed dangerously unprofessional to my untrained eye.
It is unprofessional to my very trained eye.
everyone is so calm and chill like attending a barbeque party
I've seen some pretty bad operations in my 40 years as a firefighter, both career and volunteer and served from Probie to Chief of the Department and this scene would rate in the top 10 of clusterfucks I've seen! And I'll admit that I've caused a few clusterfucks myself, but did learn valuable lessons from them and used my mistakes to teach others what not to do.
I am not an expert in fires and I see and recognize that the fire department has a very good team to work with...both personnel and tools. What I can see the most is the very little will and empathy to promptly attend to the fire. I get the impression that you are interested in the whole house being lost. There was no lack of water, there was a lack of will.
When you give it air you gotta give it water too! Lines should have been in place and charged before the garages were opened up.
Exactly.
Yep, being on damage control in the Navy, you wait until the lines are in place .1 foam, 1 water and. 3rd is a "fogger line " to keep the front line guys cooled down ...ship fuel burns freak'n hot
Look idiot,garage was open BEFORE fire dept even arrived…pay attention.
@@richardyork9495 I am not exactly sure what you are talking about? Both garage doors were closed, the fire department cut them with k12 saws and were not prepared with hose lines. What are you referring to?
@@richardyork9495
Not in my video. You must have another one.
They're moving like they know this guys house is toast!
Я как бывший пожарник поставлю двойка за такую работу.
every video i see of u.s firefighters they seem so chill like its ok that the house is on fire no biggie just carry on
They know the whole place has to be gutted.. why spaz out on the scene?
Desde Chile, que lentitud y desesperante verlos, acá en Chile en estos casos los bomberos lo arriesgan todos, todos corren y los vecinos cooperando , TODOS AYUDAN, horrible lo que veo
!! VIVA CHILE !!! somos únicos!!
Bombero chico bueno...🇨🇱
Y no son remunerados...grande bomberos de Chile
Viva chile !!! Y sus bomberos!!!!
Tengo un gran respeto y admiracion por los Bomberos de Chile; realment entrenados y muy avanzados tecnológicamente. Espero algún día poder visitar Santiago e ir a la Bomba 18 y Pompe France, y quizás poder tomar algún curso con ustedes. Saludos desde México.
Seeing that first truck show up, relief! The house will be saved, minimal fire damage, smoke and water mostly confined to garage. Then the fire fighters exited the vehicles. Everything down hill from there.
They should be rolling out crime scene tape, not fire scene.
Deus abençoe e cuide desses profissionais que arisca suas vidas em prol das outras.
Tras la rápida intervención de los bomberos, el edificio quedó hecho un solar.
In the first 3 minutes of this video , all I can think is that " they sure are taking their sweet time about confronting this fire and putting any real of water down!"
They Act Like THEY could care less they need to be fired ,what If People Were Inside Trying To Get Out
Props to the fire department for saving the basketball net.
Commenting a year later sometimes seems pointless, but a lot of people still watch these videos. Nearly 30 years paid part time here and the hardest thing to watch in this video for me is the compromise of firefighter safety. High volume fast black smoke, 5 or 6 firefighters standing up in it with no regard or maybe understanding on how close that smoke was to flashing, no protective line during the cuts. Enough space above a panel door to get some cooling happening before anything took place. Pencil the door or use a tic to see how hot things are on the other side. Only luck prevented serious injury or worse. There are many ways old and new to fight a fire but read the smoke wrong and you may not come home. Stay safe.
Now they're tearing the door down to make sure the fire has enough O2. Bold strategy!
Yes, Cotton, that’s a bold strategy…!
Lol
Can you make any suggestion as to how else they were going to get at the fire, Einstein? They couldn't even tell where the fire actually was until they had the doors off.
@@greenmanofkent the point was they never should’ve knocked that door down, and given more oxygen to that fire UNTIL THEY HAD WATER READY…
I took a CTE intro to firefighting class my senior year of high school. We did our practice drills in teams of 3-5, everything from setting up scenes as IC to charging lines. This was almost a decade ago, but we would have had, at the very least, our 3 best teams in the front door of that house with a charged line before these guys even began thinking about venting the garage door. not even gonna talk about that damn garage door 😂
Wondering why it took so long to charge the lines? As a 23 year veteran in the fire service I feel totally ashamed watching this video. Total need of training!!!
This is a training video how NOT to perform
Having read pretty much all the comments and having done damage control/ fire fighting in the Navy as well as being a volunteer fireman ..I agree there was a lot of things that should have been done that were not 🤔 1st being the garage door .
BROKEN ARROW is actually a US Military code terminology for when a Nuclear Bomb (Missile) has been lost.
I lived about 5 houses down and remember this. The hydrant was in my yard on the corner. Believe the older homeowner was a retired firefighter.
Wow!! Waiting for the flashover multiple times at that garage door!!
What do you think they became fireplayers for?
Not knocking this fire department, but this just shows that practicing to fight a fire should never happen on scene. Be it a vehicle accident, or other type of incident. Definitely something to learn from here is venting, and making sure you have lines charged ready to go when you need it most. This fire wasn’t a practice run at your local burn building used for training. This house could of had a lot less damage if you move quickly, safely yes but diligently. Timing is everything, and some of the tactics used like taking the garage door as a whole, perhaps if you can get to the release you could of maybe pushed the garage door up. Kind of like going to a vehicle accident always try before you pry.
Not knocking you but you should learn the proper use of the word "have"
where you keep using the word "of".
@@kevinjones6577 Venting a fire will only increase it's intensity by feeding it more oxygen. The reason the house wasn't fully engulfed is because it remained sealed until they had to gain entry. Having a line charged prior to knowing what your exact attack angle is going to be is also never a good idea, You would need about 6 guys to wrangle a charged line into position vs. 3 for an uncharged one. You wouldn't think so, but there's a tremendous amount of pressure built up in those things!
For real...this looks like a practice burn
That garage door was impressive.
That is a good thing to think of. Of course the person I need to ask about "of" and "have" is not here. Of all the things to think of....I don't think either is wrong. Kevin Jones are you in TX ? Lol that's my husband's brothers name. Don't forget that a horse is a horse of course of course.🐴
War ein guter Einsatz ,überlegt und ohne Hast gehandelt ! Good Job
I was expecting a lost thermo-nuclear device, but okay. Thank you and thumbs up.
I love how the old lady was just posted up sitting in a lawn chair on the front yard like she was at the park
She should be awarded recording this idiots!!!
She's old, probably in shock watching her house on fire.
Why the hell would it take so long to get hoses started upon arrival. These firefighters looked like they were in no hurry and the time delay caused that fire to spread much more than was necessary. This department should be investigated....
Mấy người họ làm việc như đang đi dạo.
And grandma sits in the middle of it all 😂
Some departments save the house and others save the basement
It’s incredible how easy they take it. They should do more training....
In my local, I have seen firefighters have trained running and jogging all the times. If there are evaluation about their jobs, I am afraid they could get below 7 out of 10.
They make moar damage fhan The fire 🔥
Public servants some are good most not so good
Poor house holders my heart goes out to you.
State Farm would probably assess the damage at $3,500.00 including the cars😅
Can’t get in trouble for running on the fire ground if you just stand in the door for 20 minutes 😂
Should have had a blue roof.That's what saved houses in Hawaii. Blue Roof.
Realmente esses bombeiros contribuíram pra que essa casa fosse destruída, nunca vi uma equipe tão letárgica e mal preparada .😱
Horrible su actuar y eso que son pagados ......indignante.
Ineptitud en todo su esplendor!,,,
@@betb3089 Concordo.😊
Pensei que fosse só eu que reparei essa lerdeza
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I don’t know about Broken arrow but the Firefighters are B R O K E on training for sure.
I can’t believe that these firefighters were not able to put out the fire… because they should been able to put it out fast enough, but I guess not!!! On Sunday August 9th 2015… me and my stepdad was driving pass my grandparents house and I knew that something wasn’t right, plus I told my stepdad that I think my grandparents garage is on fire and he didn’t believe me until we turned around and went back!!! My grandparents garage caught fire, but they were lucky enough that their garage was not attached to their house!!! I was the one that noticed smoke coming from their garage and after we returned… I knocked on my grandparents window and screamed “there’s smoke coming from your garage” and they look out their back window in the kitchen or the side window of the kitchen and saw the smoke!!! Unknown to them… they didn’t know that their garage was on fire and we found out that their car started the fire… plus I was the one that called 911!!! The firefighters showed up and had the fire out in no time… the whole garage was destroyed and there was nothing left of it!!! I lost 2 items in that fire… I had a huge plastic container full of glass cups with some of them having characters on them like Garfield and others, plus a huge container full of old K-NEX pieces inside it!!! My brother is a volunteer Firefighter!!! Sadly at the end of January of 2016… my grandfather passed away from cancer!!!
Literally one of the best examples of what NOT TO DO on a garage fire..total garbage. Either complete lack of training or just zero experience. From total lack of coordination on the initial cutting of the doors to what seems like even a basic understanding of flow path. They legit 100% responsible for losing this structure.
Responded to a fire much like this one, years ago. Everything worked in our favor. Hydrant was located just 3 houses down. Combination department and had several extra personnel at the station at receipt of alarm. Attacked fire from inside out, with immediate effective positive ventilation. Fire auto ventilated out a garage door, as aluminum panels fell away as we were attacking. Garage very crowded, as most are. That was probably the 2nd hottest fire I had been in. We quickly realized the door between living area & garage was open. Firefighter quickly entered & closed door, as we were pulling lines, and setting up for attack. Got a knock down on it, but one of the vehicles had lit up, which is a HUGE amount of BTU`s in a confined space.
Fire personnel can make all kinds of excuses on their response, but videos shows horrible urgency on attacking efforts. Fire was still controllable, but no one was the least bit visibility worried
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That was absolutely the proper approach. Always consider there is a car on fire in a garage or heavy fuel load. Ventilation is a must and direct application of water. Looks like these guys were over sold on CAFS abilities and neglected backup lines as well as urgency.
Wet stuff on the hotstuff,sorted,not stand around admiring your cutting work.
I remember watching this video before and thinking that fire department should be held accountable for that fire
I’m going to be a Firefighter 👨🚒 and rescue people from house fires 🔥
I am choked up watching this. I seen the comments about having insurance and "they'll be alright" What about the irreplaceable and being displaced? "Home is where the heart is"
Good footage. Hope the home owners moved out of that fire district! Pathetic response. Clearly disorganized with no one in charge. I found the problem! 3 Chrysler vehicles.
Never put your vehicles in the garage!
Fire behavior is a science, should be taught in all entry level firefighting courses. Read the smoke.
Amen to that
Exactly
Read the smoke indeed! Very dark, garage, plenty of unburned hydrocarbons in that plume, solid. Pucker factor waiting for it to flash!
Yes they do
I been a fire fighter for 47 years for Abbeville sc station 1 Abbeville county
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Correct me if I'm wrong by all means, but I was of the assumption that fire fighters were meant to put OUT fires not make them bigger!
Painful to watch the lack of training, the lack of sense of urgency and the lack of sensitivity to the damage that someone's physical integrity or someone else's property was suffering. It is unfortunate that our life has to be entrusted to "teams" like this.
The lack of urgency was because the fire fighter new their where no lives in danger. At that point it becomes contain and put the fire out No need to risk more lives the house was a total loss befor the first truck
Arrived
@@robertusa1234nice try!!!
These people let the house burn when in fact, if they had attacked the fire correctly, it could have quickly been put out!!!
Seriously, how the hell can anyone stick up for that kind of incompetence??!??
Wtf!?!
Eu fico admirado com a lerdeza desses bombeiros. Depois que queimou tudo eles abrem a água.
Pensei a mesma coisa...
bando de gente ruim...péssimo profissionais
É mesmo!! Puxa que moleza é essa!!! Parabéns! Colaboraram muito com a destruição da casa.
Tbm pensei isso, uma lerdeza que não dá prá acreditar 😱🚶
Também pensei a mesma coisa, que lezera é essa????
Caramba!!! Pensei que só eu tava horrorizada com tanta lerdeza!!!
I do not brave enough to be a firefighter thank God there are many who do.
Kind of reminds me of when the neighbors house burned down. FD arrived and just stood around watching. We don't have water hydrants out here so they need to truck it in. Other towns sent tankers and the FD filled up these big swimming pools they had set up and began pumping water. House was a total loss. There is a lot of up side to country life.
I'm not eager to bash my brothers and sisters in the fire service but this video genuinely is difficult for me to watch. The actions in this video consistently went against everything I've been taught as a fireman, as well as showing very little understanding of fire dynamics. I hope they take the opportunity to learn from this and move forward in a positive direction.
can't believe they're only using one hose! I guess if they don't put it out today they can put it out tomorrow!
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The phrase "All the dear no idea " comes to mind
I was a professional firefighter for 28 years. My crew would have had their gear on in route. When we arrived, the nozzle man would have grabbed a pre-connect with the backup man helping unload the bed. By the time they got to the front door, the line would be charged and ready for them to enter. This would have taken 1 1/2- 2 minutes.
You've never spent even a day as a professional firefighter
Why were they not prepared with the second hose when the second garage door was cut down? Seems like they should have had that ready.
It was actually Hose #3 but you are correct in spotting this costly delay, expecially when visible flames are supposed to be priority ,
That's because you can't see visible flames when there's that much smoke they didn't know where the fire was exactly.... If you notice they determined where the flames were coming from so they tore down that single garage door... They did it pretty much by the book
Luck was on their side with this fire.
@@Pinkielover If you have heavy smoke coming from a closed door you better have a charged hose before you open it.
I'm sure what book did you read
Because are idiots!
If it could go wrong, it did. Training is a thing of beauty.
Possibly we've forgotten already!
They could be new recruits with lack of training after many people refused to take 'the thing in the arm' and were either sacked or resigned. It's been happening in all professions since!!!!!
Can expect more disasters now and into the future.
Just an opinion!
Lack of training ..😮
You idiots can’t even pee straight into a toilet bowl let alone know how to put out a fire
Opening that garage door fueled the fire with oxygen.
Always remember if possible ventilate,ventilate, ventilate from the roof, never doors or windows. That's a possible flash over or backdraft waiting to happen, it would be great if every Firefighter could tour the National Fire Academy at Emmitburgh,Maryland.
Unbelievable incompetence in this fire department.
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Are you in the fire service? I would bet no.
Was their incompetence rising to your levels? On the bright side....You are an excellent troll though.
@@RLTtizME You must be the leader of F troop.
@@seekerBill Your brothers and sisters in the fire service think you are a jerk.
Great video to show how not to fight a fire.
I'm not a firefighter but if that was my house I would have been anxious took their sweet time