Dynojet Power Vision Autotune - How do I make my
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- I just got a @DynojetResearch Power Vision the other day and installed it on my @harleydavidson 2021 Ultra Limited Street Glide (that's what I call it) and put a base map in the bike. I saw immediate improvement for sure, and the bike was much happier, and I swear even a smoother ride at highway speeds. Today we take the bike out, put it in autotune and let it gather data about it's air/fuel mixture and decide what is just right at every RPM point and Throttle Position Sensor... position. Then we'll bring it back and apply those values to make it just right for my exact setup. This was way easier than I thought and I feel like the bike is now ready to ride for a while till we go into the stage 2 plans I have for it next. If you're interested in a Power Vision for your bike, please do use my link if you don't mind. You'll go right to the page where you will pick your bike from the dropdown menu. The link tells Dynojet that people do in fact listen to us online and that you actually care what we think. THANKS!
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Fuel Moto has excellent pre tuned maps for the DynoJet. Great customer service and support.
No joke, I got one from dynojet (love the company, great customer service) but the bike started funny, ran weird, and wouldn't idle correctly. Got a map from fuel moto and the bike screamed right off the bat. It even vibrated less than the tune I had on there from a dynotuner. Overall the bike just runs better with the canned map from them. Just installed my target tune and will be autotuning from their map. Can't wait.
I bought my Power Vison from Fuel Moto which comes with maps for life which is great, every time I change something on the bike like a stage 2 upgrade they send me a new base map for it. I usually do two or three autotune runs on the base map which does help a lot. My first base map after adding a RS468 cam had me running a little lean, a couple Auto Tune sessions straightened that out and bike has run great since. I could not recommend it more, especially if you buy from Fuel Moto there support is great!!
I just did the same. My 19 electraglide oil sumped on me. So i replaced everything in camchest with a Redshift 468 cam kit from fuelmoto, im running a drag specialties oil pump and a new stock camplate. Had a preloaded tune on powervision from fuelmoto and its been very good noticed a few bobbles and lean conditions it is close wanted to get the target tune kit but will have to settle for a basic autotune for now. Had the fp3 on this and i was going to try it with the 468 cam fp3 is very user friendly just have to flash the cam choice in and autotune,but i had the Powervision ready to go so ill run autotune with it and see what happens. Worst part was trying to set the adjustable push rods with my huge fricken fingers,but i took my sweet ass time and got it done. Loving the cam choice and has an lopey idle and sounds great and rumbly though the magnaflow mufflers.
It's an absolute fact that when Harley Davidson was developing the M8 engine, experienced riders didn't rate the engine acceptable. Experienced riders didn't like the smoothness of the M8. Harley engineers detuned things and added a little engine shake and and 98% of those same riders loved it. You may be finding that smooth sweet spot.
You are a delightful erudite nutcase who explained , what appeared to be a complicated experience , into a simple progressions of steps. Thank you Wil
Thanks for the video. Btw, The autotune is not changing settings when riding, it's just recording data. Nothing changes until you save the exit and save the map.
Very well articulated and adds clarity for me in the world of tuning. Great job!!
Solid delivery of the information one would need to run an auto tune. Thanks for the video. I’m glad you gave the PowerVision a go.
Thanks very much for this; I just bought a Power Vision unit and am working to get it installed and try to understand what it's all about. Thanks for the basic, easy to get information, you've been a big help. Safe roads!
Great video, your explanation of the auto tune made perfect sense. I’m glad you went over that, I also got mine from Fuel Moto that came with preloaded map based on my setup. Keep it up. 👊🦊
You get to have your fun and we get BOATLOADS of content. Thanks, enjoying it.
Great video, I jus added the target tune to my PV 2 with wide band O2 sensors I’m now on auto tune upload number 8 and it is a game changer. I hope more people will watch this video and go with PV and avoid the stealership fees to tune the bike. I am close to finishing this FM 128 build
Just what i have been looking for, many thanks for explaining the process, cheers from OZ
Glad it was helpful!
Gotta respect a man that isn't afraid to say in light of new information I have changed my opinion. Well done Monk!
I do my best!
One has never been a best all out solution. Everyone saying, that won't fit this and that aren't doing what you're doing.
Keep it up!
I appreciate your real world approach to your video presentation. I just completed my first HD Performance Project for a customer and have flashed the proper tune from Dynojet into the ECU. 2017 HD Heritage Softail Classic w/ a Bassani Road Rage 2-1 exhaust & a Kuryakyn Hypercharger ES Intake System. It's test ride time and I going to use Autotune to fine tune the bike for my area. It's still a little cool here in the great white North but sunny and about 55F.
Great video man. Just starting to use my power vision. This helped me get it set up...Thanks
So glad you are making this. My Power Vision is on the way and I am sure this will be very helpful.
I think I may have finally cracked the code on installing my "Cappucino machine" in my tour pack. 😉
You got this! You just need an inverter, then it's Macchiatos for all! HA!
@@ProfessionalMonkey then a trip to Palm Beach will be in order. 🤣 ... Well, not sure the wife will be amused because she just started riding with me. But we are going down to TN next month.
With any tuner in auto tune, you definitely need to do 3-5 good auto tune sessions. Took me 4 with my FP3 until I liked what I got. I put a new head pipe on over the winter so I’ll do add that head pipe and do another 2-3 auto tune sessions with it. Great information. Thanks for sharing. 👍
This video helped alot! I use the pv on my 08 ultra nd never used the autotune feature only used the map that FuelMoto had preloaded on my unit for me. So…thanx keep up the good work! Awsome nd helpful videos!
Glad it helped!
Enjoy the ride 😎
Very concise and well done. I forgot how to do since last one.
Hey Brother - great content, subject matter: another excellent video, great presentation and commentary, breaking it down into laymen's terms so that average Joe (with minimal knowledge & understanding the basics of Tuning an EFI Harley) can grasp it. Well done! Like your idea of continuing to do a few more Auto Tune (Data Logging) Sessions, to get the most from the Stage-1 (unique exhaust pipe)now; then add your Stage-2 Cam (retaining stock 12mm wideband O2 sensors), run a few more Auto Tunes; then upgrade to the 18mm O2 sensors and put the Dyno with a Professional Tuner/Programmer dialing it in, completely in. Gets my vote!
Install wide bands with initial install or your auto tune is doing next to nothing!
Get yourself the Target Tune set up and bring it to your dyno guy. Us tuners can use that like the autotune but it stays on your bike forever making adjustments with a special Target Tune enabled map. This keeps all the stuff active (acceleration enrichment etc.) That autotune disables while recording. It's a few dollars but well worth it.
Panhead Andy
Prestige Custom Cycles
Elmsford NY
Hey, what do you know about 2008 Dynas that already have the PC5? Can I add an auto tune or target tune?
@@ADREISTER you can use an autotune with pc5 but it doesn't live update like target tune and powervision. You need a windows computer with the Dynojet software to download the data log from the autotune unit and then apply the changes. More expensive and time consuming than converting to powervision and target tune. Also pc5 is a piggyback unit which is very outdated.
Hey great video. I’ve had my power vision and never used that mode. Gonna get out and try it out and maybe change out O2 to wideband. Keep up the great work !!
I've had a power vision since 2010... it's awesome and so is their customer support... one cool little trick it can change the throttle blade position compared to throttle position for throttle by wire... in other words you won't have to grab a handful to be wide open....
That does sound pretty cool. Sounds like it changes the ratio probably. 1/4 turn of throttle = 3/8 turn of throttle blade, 1/2 turn throttle = 3/4 turn throttle blade.... something like that
Great information 👍
Fuel Moto is great they answer the phone when you call. Awesome Customer Service and that's Key in the bike world some companies don't get it..But Fuel Moto does.... Great Video's..
One important thing to remember about auto tune, auto tune can only correct up to a certain percentage of a particular cell (one of those little colored blocks on the screen) during a particular session. So… if a particular cell is out of perfect say 25% the auto tune session will correct it and make it 10% better. That means you still have 15% more before it perfect. Therefore you can see that you will have to do 2 more auto tune sessions before you can perfect that particular cell. In order to do that you must export learned values, load the new map and begin auto tune again. You can just keep overwriting that slot but do it at least 3 times. Just never overwrite the map that was sent to you from power vision or fuel moto.
Great video buddy
Thanks!
just bought a new fatboy and planed using the dynojet so this really helps
Way too much information for my little pea brain to comprehend!
Thank you for sharing the power of knowledge with us mortals!😬
Stay safe out there…
HA!
Yea good video I do know the part about running rough when first installed is the timing is advancing and notice it seems to be worse when colder outside not as bad in summer especially in Bama just runs hotter especially in the hot humid sticky swamp ass weather but I was told by Fuel Moto said to use the lower gears like stop go but just smooth with the throttle but I’ve had mine for couple years now and they do help just from the first one thinking about getting auto tune with O2 sensors
Luv the color
Great video. Super helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Interesting and it looks fairly easy to use. Or you make it look easy.
It is!
You are funny. You make great video's brother. Thank you
Good lookin out playa. I need one of these over my Fuel pak 3. I put in the s&s 465 cam and it bucks at low speeds
That Cobra turnout is sweet. Put a Thunder torque insert in that thing and maybe get a good hunk of torque back.
Been sayin' for a while I need to build a Bagger and trailer the FLSTF-I hot rod. This Power Vision looks trick, perfect for a comfortable cruiser...looking forward to nuts and bolts how to.
Loved your video. I recently went from a 107 stock motor on my 21 road glide to a 124 with 2-1 Busanni pipe and 550 cam and SE breather. Bigger injectors and 64mm throttle body. Also converted to a chain. Got a base tune from dyno jet and runs really lean. Going to try the auto tune feature to possibly add more gas to the mixture. We’ll see how it goes. Thanks.
If you have those mods you will need the wideband add on if you don’t already have it. The narrow bands are useless once the fuel demands of the engine exceeds 14/1
I love your videos brother keep up the good work!! You explain things in details for all of us simpletons so I can figure things out which alot of other youtubers don't do. So thank you for doing that. I was wondering I got my first harley a 2023 roadglide special I wanna to stage 2. I got the bassani 2-1 gonna get the trask air cleaner would u recommend s&s 475 or a star 30/30 or fueling. I don't care to much about numbers I want the sound and the lump sound that a cam gives pls any advise would be appreciated thank you!!!
lol My hubby opened up his Ultra Glide and was pulled over by the cops! This was last year. The Highway Patrol were using an aircraft flying over!
Nice information
I'm in the process of doing a fuel moto 2-1-2 with power vision and target tune tt2 with the wide bands. Can't wait to see the results. Unfortunately I'm in New England and it's been a half ass winter so far. Hopefully be able to get it out sooner than later. Thank you for the time you take to make these videos!!!
good info. i have the old orange SE one and just put my cobra speedsters on and the tune is now out of whack. looking at one of these or a 4
You REALLY remind me of Jack Black and I love it!
I loaded a canned tune the best match for my setup. Then ran the Autotune exported learned data. Went back to the WPV and checked the canned tune vs the Autotune, no differences in fuel or air map.. I used the compare tune and delta feature.. Still cool going to keep learning it’s features!!
You won’t get a difference in fuel map because it’s the TARGET the tuner is trying to achieve. Where you’ll find the difference is the VE maps.
@@rebel_ltz Ve= volumetric efficiency?
@@ToDaMn yes, it will not change any AFR. Unless you change it manually
Auto Tune Is nice when your changing altitude levels 👌
Cool video thanks
I’ve been watching you for a while and I love your shit and I’ll keep watching you cause you’re a cool dude just like me man least I think I’m a man I still wear a britches, but that’s the way life is 70 fucking years old give me a break
Thanks for the video, I always enjoy learning what you cover. My only question is how hard was it to connect to your bike? I’m still one working on doing a stage one, (free flow air breather) so it will be a bit before I get to this level. Thanks again
The video before this one I did the install. It's a snap.
Hey Bro I’ve been running the PV with the wide band sensors for a while. It’s awesome!! Dynojet gave me a canned tune and I went through auto tune 3 times. That’s what Fuel Moto recommended. My bike runs great. 2016 RGS with SE585 cams, S&S Sidewinder and SE breather. I bet in getting 100hp and 110 fp of torque.
I really need to do those sensors...
@@ProfessionalMonkey get them when you cam it!! If I may suggest calling Zipper Performance for a cam. My buddy is running the SE stage 4 with a Zipper, it’s nasty!!
You had me at "Less vibration on the highway" Just clicked paid, fingers crossed. BTW cool vids. Should make a podcast with your buddies drinking Miller light talking shop.
It’s shocking what a good tune can do.
@@ProfessionalMonkey Just noticed something. The PV3 your using has a large screen and the PV3 that's coming to me has a small screen. I'm guessing it's the year and model bike that's in question unless they've updated the PV3 completely where it only comes with a small screen. Anyways still waiting on them to ship.
@@ChrisMaroudas it will still tune it right. Keep me posted
@@ProfessionalMonkey Well after almost 8 days of travel I finally got my PV3. Plugged it in and basically nothing. Can't read the ECU. No connection to the bike at all. I'm just hoping this isn't gonna cost me more since I keep hearing the word licensing with every other Google inquiry.
you crack me up
Just a heads up on the pv4 tuner. I ordered it on the heels of watching your first video about the pv3 when you mentioned it. The idea of using my phone sounded nice. I have a 20 heritage 114 I've cholo'd. Full samson fishtail with no baffles high flow air cleaner and cam. I got the tuner in and emailed them about a tune and they responded saying basically nothing short of exhaust and air cleaner was available for pv4. So basically it's useless at the moment for any mods or anything custom if the customer service rep was correct. Hopefully in the future it will be useful like the 2-b and 3. Also pv4 currently has no auto tune
Good information to know, thanks for passing it along. 👍
Just went stage 2 , andrews 48h cam , pv3 , target tune , cobra power pro 2 into1 . Has tuned very well first ride ... Has decel pop , common with.2 into 1 .
2008 heritage classic . Very satisfied ! Could sound better .
I initially ran a pretune on my rks, was so fat that full throttle seemed to lag. put on the tune they have for stock bikes even though I have air cleaner and slip-ons and she runs so much better now.. while playing around I gave her a 1% increase globally over the stock bike tune and it's damn near flawless now.
Have you done the Autotune yet? That might make it better overall?
If you have a throttle by wire model you will have a throttle table that you can adjust, it's normally set progressive through harley so there is a lag when you Crack it open. You can adjust it to be more aggressive and responsive.
didn't do the auto tune yet since I figured it was kinda pointless on the stock o2 sensors
@@silvajay6443 it's not a waste, if done correctly you will feel a difference in the ride.
Great video bud. I’ll be doing the auto tune very soon. I’ll give you an update.
Please do!
Was out today for most of the day and I got a code for running rich. I cleared that and 50 or so miles it come up again. Smelling really rich. This was a map dynojet installed for my upgrades. Stage 2 exhaust, cam, breather. Will auto tune help with this?
@@FLHXDUDE can you say what code came up? How long have you been running this tune and have you changed anything recently?
I have a PV on my 21 RGS. Now I want to try doing the auto tune. It’s a stg 2 bike that’s been dyno tuned but just to lean a bit more on the PV. Thanks for sharing.
You can save the tune they did and then do an autotune to it and save it separately so you don't lose it. I'm not sure it would be better since its been tuned on a dyno, but it would be fun anyway.
@@ProfessionalMonkey My thoughts exactly
Curious if you ended up trying the auto tune on top of your dyno tune? I was thinking of trying it as well.
Great video. Watch you all the time. I am thinking about buying the Dakota gauges like you have on the ultra and was wondering if you like them and are they worth the price tag on them. I have bought some of the things you recommend like the Wibers suspension etc and value your opinion.
Theyre freaking amazing. I want to use them for a while before I do a video on them. I have got about 500 miles on with them now so maybe this week.
Great vid. Super informative. Can you tell me the mount your using for your PV. I have 1 1/2 in apes on my road glide ultra. That mount looks perfect.
This is the bar mount, the rest is RAM accessories. www.amazon.com/dp/B00KOEQXDU?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 You can also get the ball plate on AMazon as well - www.amazon.com/dp/B004O8LF26?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
When you are ready for a dyno tune. Matt Smith (Those Dyno Guys) in Sarasota is the best tuner you will ever find.
Sounds like the tuner I'm lookin for my 21 Tri Glide. I like your down to earth explaining how to use auto tune for us old schoolers...lol. Did you de-cat your pipes ? Just curious because of your location. I'm just the opposite living in Western Maryland. Ok enough said. Oh one other thing...take it easy on your dad.😂😂
Next episode. Setting up gauge’s on the PV. Your not done. Lol 🍺
Look at that chart. You were out hot rodding
Mebbe...
Another Q: Most of us don’t need RDRS, did your 21 have it? Just got a 2022 RG CVO and deciding on tuners like Dynojet, TTS, Thundermax. Had the thundermax on my 2018 Ultra and loved it. RS-468, fullsack head pipe, much better than the 117 stock cam (open to ideas there). Stock 117 puts off stupid levels of heat.
Keep up the great work! I have one question though, you already had it tuned now does this tuner override your last Harley tuner?
Yep, it overwrites the tune. No issues.
Thanks, Mr. Monkey!
Who do use to Dyno run ? I live in west Palm, thanks in advance great videos
I was leaning heavily towards the FP3 because of auto tune and it not having to stay on the bike and now you tell me the PV does those things too... As a non mechanic I really appreciate the non technical rundown. Will there be a video comparing the two?
Not really a comparison since they are so different. Now that I have autotuned using both I am definitely a bigger fan of the Dynojet...
You'd be suprised how much better the performance and the mileage you'll get with upgraded O2 sensors. Because of how much better and more refined the tuner can get with them😊 I'd suggest anyone who's gonna go further with their bike( buying a tuner for future upgrades) to get O2 sensors😊🤘 im honestly suprised that most tuner manufacturers don't offer upgraded O2 sensors when purchasing their tuner just to make it simple for the buyer😊
I wonder if this will the decel pop gone from my road glide st. Not super familiar with HDs. But all I did was slap on rinehart DBXs 4.5 slip ons and I took the 90 degree air cleaner and put on a 15 spoke. Feel like my bike has ran like garbage ever since I changed from
The NH cobras to the rineharts. Also bought some torque inserts to get some power back.
We adding the tune did you have an issue with the bike having issue with the bike show codes? I since up loading on my 2021 HD Road Glide Limited twin Cooled 114 with the RDSD and having a Rinehart Slimline headers with Rinehart Slip on pipes and a Arlen Ness high flow inverted air cleaner. I've was getting a right fan code popping up. Had Dyno jet help a few times but could never get the bike form that code showing up. End up having HD pin every wire and test the fans and no issue. Pulled all the parts and tune off and went back to stock and the issue went away. I was thing of taking another shoot at having the parts and tune put back on and taking it to a pro-tuner to see if I could get the code thing form showing up, The bike really did run a lot better with the tune and parts. Any thoughts?
I just purchased the same power vision but the new Power Vision you're talking of that hooks up to your phone Fuel Moto says it does not have the tunebility as this one but future updates could be for power vision 4 the power vision 4 cheaper.. and when I say tunability meaning there's more stuff and information on this one that's accessible right there on the screen
That’s true. The 4 didn’t do the depth of tuning that the three does… yet,
I have a Thundermax in my RGS with a HD 114 stage IV. I see the PV is half the cost, wish I had known that and all of its functions before I spent the extra$$$. Oh well I’m still having fun.
Once you add the cost of the wide band sensors you are roughly at the same price. Thundermax is a great system.
By the way, I have a PowerVision three and I love it not sure how it works all the way to give me a good information
😎👍
Great video. Love all the changes to the bike. Random thought: any info on the tour pack/backrest bracket on your garage wall?
It was just off Amazon. That one is gone from there but there are others.
Took a look at advanblack for the first time and after watching your videos I'm going to save some money and make some changes to my steers glide special love your videos and think your a funny asswhole and your a blast to watch
Thanks!!!
After the cam you should see what the base is, then run autotune to see how that does, and finally get it dyno tuned and see how far off the autotune was.
That's what I would like to do, but it would cost me a fortune in dyno time.
I’ve read to set the minmap before autotuning
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Save your updated map in slot 8 and work down ... that way the original map is always there unadulterated in case of a weird glitch ...
I had a sea level tune a
Midwest tune
Winter Spring Summer Fall tunes
And an altitude type tune until got the Target Tune set up which constantly updates on the fly real time ....
Harley has adjusted for altitude shortly after EFI technology.
I think you've got a great idea. I live at seal level, but running a quick autotune up in Sturgis could be good since youre high up there.
That looks like a Powervision 5. The Powervision 3's are all small and have their own buttons
When you continue on with the autotune, does it show all the previous results from the last run? or does it basically start all over? Curious if you can still have the previous results on there so you can really work on hitting the boxes that you didn't before
Love the video. But how did you name your tunes? Can you enter the exhaust name that you actually have when you are done with autotune?
After an autotune it saves it my session name.
@@ProfessionalMonkey Is this with the computer attached?
May be too much to ask but it would be really cool to see it dyno tuned with the FP3 and then done again with the PowerVision. I have an FP3 and have been hearing how terrible it is compared to powervision and blah blah blah. For someone like me I’m seriously considering changing but I also don’t have money growing on a tree in the backyard. so I’m really curious if the switch would be worth the money. If you can’t do a dyno tune comparison I’d like to see your perspective on the comparison of both brands based on what you feel. I ask because I know you’re familiar with the FP3 as well. Thanks!!
I wish I could do that, but the cost would be preventative. I do like the FP3 for its simplicity, but now having a Power Vision 3 I can see how it's better. The PV3 just does a better job of reading and tweaking the air/fuel mixture. My 21 rides so much better than the Harley tuner, and I am confident the PV3 is better than the FP3 now. If you want to poke around their site this link will take you to where you put in your bike and it will show you whats out there for yours: alnk.to/gVGczye
@@ProfessionalMonkey you mean you don’t have one of those money trees in your backyard either??? lol!! Well I appreciate the response and I guess I’ll just have to bite the bullet and hope it pays off! Thanks for your opinion on that matter
I used an FP3 when they first came out and it ran terrible. I'm sure it's gotten better over time. I mean I preordered it before it came out and received it immediately. I was getting all kinds of codes and weird stuff. Even felt like at one point one of the cylinders shut off when I was on the freeway lol. Like I said, I'm sure it's gotten better. Just sharing, what I think, is a funny experience. It's actually what led me to get a powervision instead. I've had it since 2014 and in a box until just recently when I went to a 124 motor and larger injectors. Snatched up the target tune this time as well too. Getting ready for my first autotune run after work today. BTW if you do get a powervision, get it from fuel moto. I hit them up when I put this new motor in and they were able to find my purchase from 2014 and hooked me up with a base map and some tech advice for my new motor. They are a top notch company for sure.
I just got one of these and even on the website I can’t find any tunes for a 2022. Does the year matter if everything else matches?
Hi bro thanks for the video, but your Powervision you are using in the video is the Powervision II not the III as you say in you video.
I wouldn’t want someone buying the wrong one based on this.
The II is the best one for the touring models.
just bought a power vision for my 15 street glide special the Bike was tuned with old orange SE tuner and I can't find a map for my bike. Can I just run autotune and flash the data to the existing tune making her run that much better?
What are you using to mount the power vision to your bars
i have a new 2023 falcon 400cc.. im looking for a way to re map my ecu.. can you help guide me in the right direction..
What mount did you use and how?
great video man.. thank you! can i ask you something please? i have my 21 street glide tuned with TechnoResearch can i buy that Dynojet and use it even if it's already tuned with this tuner they used?? i'm really not a fan of it i think i get better results
Yep, you can just overwrite your old tune with a new one.
@@ProfessionalMonkey ok great.. thank you for answering i know how busy you are..thank you
My dealer charged me arm and leg for license and tuning and bike runs like shit and they won’t redo it. I’m fed up and want to get this or thundermax but more I watch more I’m leaning towards this. Fuelmoto said after 2 emails they can’t help me and I shouldn’t buy a tuner from them ( exact words 🤷♂️😣)not quite
sure why maybe the mufflers I
use but it still frustrated me…. I have tabs 50 cals on the way … fuelmoto header SE extreme ventilator and tman 216 cam ( 475 lift) . Is there any map for that somewhere ? Especially the cam? Header and pipes I’m sure there is. Bike is pinging now with CFRs and lot of ppl said my timing needs to be pulled down some places. Can auto tune on this unit do that? Thanks
Few things, power vision basic only adjust the VE tables of your tune, it will not adjust the AFR table of your tune. AFR has to be manually changed on your computer. Powervision will not Autotune spark tables, that also has to be adjust manually. Newer model tunes should have the option to Autotune based off KPA or MAP tables instead of TPS table. It's a better way of tuning but it must be active in your tune and adjusted on your computer to tune that way. Anything outside of closed loop will not be adjusted by Autotune basic. So your leaving out the high rpm and open throttle areas unadjusted. Autotune basic will only adjust cruise area. Welcome to the rabbit hole.
Jeez, my brain hurts now...
I'm experiencing a slow throttle response when I wide open the throttle at six gear. The autotune basic didn't seem able to correct It. Is there a way to address this?
@@kawasaki9167 year, make and model
@@ihatesjws1188 2021 Fxbbs
@@kawasaki9167 so disclaimer, I'm not a mechanic, take my advice at your own risk. Without actually seeing you bike I can only speculate based on common symptoms I have seen.
1. You are not riding in the Powerband where the motor makes power causing a false sense of lag, when in reality you are expecting to much from your 6th gear.
2. Your tune is out of wack in the wide open throttle, which powervision basic will not address. You would need Autotune pro or the target tune to correct the VE tables in that range then manually change the afr to what works best in that range. Or go to a Thundermax system that will incorporate it all in one.
3. You are experiencing throttle lag from the throttle table not being set at 100 percent. Since harley went to throttle by wire they incorporated a lag, meaning the throttle input (your twist) will open at a certain percentage of the speed imputed. It can be adjusted to aggressive or to lag depending on your liking but it has to be emailed to dynojet so they can make the adjustments then they send it back. They used to let people make that correction at home but took it away. Don't know why.
I know it's long but those are my two cents. Could be one of the three or a combination of them all. Again with out actually see your bike these are best guesses.
i have an 07 wide glide that i bought used with a stage one on it a 2 into2 Vance and Hines exhaust and as near i can figure the breather is a screaming eagle.I dont see me doing a stage 2 or 3 on this bike because me and my better half decided that it might be better to put that money into a road glide that we have been wanting.I was thinking about getting an fp3 to get a little better performance out of our current bike,what do you think?ive gotten different opinions about getting the fp3 some tell me that with as much as i get to ride with work and all its a waste of money others say it will be worth it
I would go with a PV3 since unless you buy a brand new road glide you can reuse it on the new bike, you just buy another license. The FP3 is permanently married to the Dyna so when you sell it/trade it you're out that investment. Use this link and it will help you look up the right one for your Dyna: alnk.to/gVGczye
Ok' now' I have a question for you. I have a 2015 fatboy. As you can see from my profile picture, it has the shortly style VH pipes, and a aftermarket air cleaner. I bought it with these two already on it. I don't know if it was ever tuned, or what, so' what tuner do you think I should get to do the tuning by myself. I definitely want one that I can let the tuner do it by itself.
I have a 18 SGS and i added a Power vision last year when i did my stage 1, this winter I did the Cam and yadda yadda to make it stage 2. I cant find a decent tuner in this area and I am prone to changing parts on my bike. Considering adding the target tune with wideband sensors. I wonder how close the target tune gets to a dyno tune? Have you considered getting a target tune module for yours when you add the cam? would like to see someone add the target tune and then see what difference a dyno tune would make. If changing parts on a bike a fella would need to keep going back for dyno tunes where potentially the target tune would sort it out is what I am thinking. Just don't know how good the target tune is......
I hear the target tune is pretty damn good actually. I don't know if I will do it, but I am thinking the wide band sensors are in my future.
Target tune would open up the open loop area of your tune and make adjustments throughout. You will still have to manually adjust the AFR table and tailor it to how you like.
you answered my question. Do you yhink that after market pipes help the M8?
They do vs stock, but the wrong ones might add sound and style but arent the best performing. I knew that when I got this one.
Hey when you put your Powervision tune on your 21 Ultra did you have any issues with trouble codes? I did a stage 2 with a Powevision tune and been getting a trouble code (P1693h) every since. Been working with the company to get it corrected just curious if you have ran into any issues. Thanks brother and keep the videos coming!
I dont thing so? I cleared some codes afterward but I they havent come back and I think they were there before.
@@ProfessionalMonkey I didn’t have any codes prior to loading the tune. I keep resetting the code and it’ll pop 50-70 miles into a ride. The company I’m dealing with seems to know about this issue and have been trying to sort it out. Just curious if anyone else has experienced it and how it worked out for them in the end. The code I keep getting is Cooling fan right side shorted to ground. Everything has been functioning in regards to the fan so it has to be something with the tune. I guess for guys without the twin cooled bikes there wouldn’t be any issue. Thanks for replying!
@@philterranova8637 I am having the same problem, the rep at DynoJet I have talked to says he hasn't heard about it.
I have seen on HD Forums there are more people having the same problem.
@@mikeree9393 I purchased my Powervision through Fuel Moto and they did an excellent job working with Dyno Jet to get my issue sorted out. I went through several different tunes they sent me before getting the correct tune. I would run the tunes they sent me and then forward them the data from each ride cycle. It took a little over 2 1/2 weeks to get it right. I now have over 600 miles on my newest tune with no codes or running issues.