you will want to run this a few times. took about 5 times to get it dialed in perfectly on my fatbob. just keep loading the previous autotune when you pick the tune to modify. and i always used scale not cap. set it to autotune. run a full tank of gas in mixed riding conditions.flash and repeat till happy.
agree. i used this process because i felt like i didn't get enough information on the autotune session. i realized you can just keep the learned values and add on to them. pretty sick!
thanks Jeremy! you'd think these fuckers would explain such to us novice bastards! that is the #1 question I have been searching for all over the fuckin internet and couldn't find any explanation!!! THANKS!!!
One of my questions is when setting up (bike off, then key turning, are you powering down the tuner, and then will you have to start the process over after starting the bike
it's not that bad! i was intimidated at first but it really is easy to use. i've only had mine on the bike for a week and feel it was a great investment.
This thing is great. But not quite understanding the scale and cap. One guy says scale. Another says don’t scale too much. I’ve done 2 autotune sessions and think it can be improved. But what do I do with scale and cap?
@@danielpankey3853 oh for sure! Decel pop is pretty much non existent. It runs smoother. It purrs like a kitten. I highly recommend it. I and going to do a big bore kit with ported and polished and larger valves and 30deg reverse dome pistons and cams And the works through hammer Performance for about $2500. And this will allow me to do more tuning then the fp3 would have. So long story short I highly recommend it. And it’s easy to use as well.
@@ChuckWood The device comes with a CD to load onto your computer, unless they are doing it all online since I bought mine. On the same CD is a full manual how to install it and use it.
You should be able to find what you need here: www.dynojet.com/downloads/power-vision-for-harley-davidson/. If you can't find it there, contact us at pvtech@dynojet.com and we'll help you out.
+DynojetResearch well you know other people view these comments and are looking for similar answers. really silly that you'd send them away and lose potential customers.
How long should I ride around?How much info does it hold? With the Harley tuner I used on my twin cam only had 10 minutes of information memory.. Can I do more than one auto tune session.
David, you want to fill in the GREEN log screen as much as you can. This may take 5 minutes or 20 minutes. Try to gather as much data as you can. After that session, apply the changes and do it again.
So how long are you supposed to “ride like you normally would”? I imagine it has a limit to how much information it can capture in one session and I see people suggesting to repeat the auto tune a few times. I highly doubt sitting on a dyno is going to help tune it for heavy traffic conditions. Well all want max power but I also need smooth running in stop and go situations. Can this thing continuously learn all of that? I just have to auto tune repeatedly or what? How many miles or minutes of driving?
The Autotune is constantly learning and making changes. The only limitation is how far it can tune from your base setting. Our default is +/- 20. So if your tune was way off and needed to adjust more than +/- 20 then you do need to ACCEPT TRIMS so it can continue to learn. There is not an amount of time that it needs to learn. Keep in mind that if the area of 8000 RPM at 80% throttle needs tuning and you never hit this spot then obviously it will never learn this area. So the more you can ride in this area the better. We do NOT recommend allowing the kit to tune below 10% throttle unless you are absolutely sure you have a good reading and are not getting reversion thru the exhaust. On our bikes, the AutoTune is always connected and learning. In one instance, after we got a good base tune, we did lower the allowed learning range to +/- 8.
I have been tuning my Nightster but I haven't really gotten into 5th gear so am I needing a long flat stretch so I can get top speed while on autotune?
Hi, the copy of original tune of the bike is somethign that the module is doing by itself, like an automatic backup? then, if you whant to do the autotune with the "copy of original tune" all the changes seems to be saved as a new cosutum tune, leaving the "copy of original one" as it was, am i right?
If you want to run autotune more than once after your first run and you export it and save.Do you disable autotune then re enable it and select the map you just autotune.I have heard 2 different things on that part?
so after you do this tune the auto tune is not needed to be connected? I was under the impression that it continually monitored the O2 and made changes all the time.So if I went to different places around the world I would have to program the power commander every time correct?
In this video you selected to use auto tune with "Copy of Original tune". If you do it this way, does it over write or affect the original tune in any way? In the event that I wanted to revert back to the original tune for any reason, I wouldn't want to change it. Thank you.
Still cannot find the answer to... whether or not I can install wide band O2 sensors in my 2002 Road King Screamin Eagle and if so, where do the wires from the O2 sensors plug into the ECM? Do I need a later model ECM that supported O2 sensors on a 2007 bike? Or is there some other way to connect O2 sensors to a 2002 ECM? So far, I have a Power Vision that does NOTHING for my bike. Auto Tune, the very reason I bought the Power Vision does not work without wide band O2 sensors, something that did not come on 2002 Harleys. If I cannot find a solution in 10 days, I will post a video of me shooting the Power Vision with an AR-15. Bet that will go viral.
Hello, Jon. Please reach out to our technical support and they will walk you through the process. Toll free support line: 1-800-992-4993 Or fill out our online form to have a technical representative reach out to you www.dynojet.com/support-form
@@DynojetResearch Been talking with Pat and Mark for a week now. Unless there is a way to install O2 sensors and connect them to my 2002 ECM, there really is no walk thru. So far, nobody can answer if the 2002 Road King ECM will accept, connect to and read the prospectively installed O2 sensors or not. THAT is the magic solution. So far... NO LOVE FOUND!
@@DynojetResearch Been reaching for a week, nearly 10 days. I thought since the company that built the Power Vision is in my own home town, I could just run over to DynoJet and someone could physically help me with this NIGHTMARE, but no! NO PUBLIC CONTACT! That's always a red flag to me. They could solve a customer's nightmare in 15 minutes, but want no public contact. Kinda stanky.
Had I known Power Vision Auto Tune does not work on bikes with no O2 sensors, I would not have bought the Power Vision. Now I think I am EATING the $450 I spent on this ORNAMENT.
How in the world would you think auto tune would work without narrow band or wide band oxygen sensors? The problem was that you didn’t understand what you were buying and what you actually needed.
@@Dipndots87-ms6ds It was advertised as a tuner, nowhere in the advertising did it say it required other parts. Not everyone is a mechanic. I did not BASH the product, I simply STATED A FACT IN MY POST. IT DOES NOT WORK WITHOUT O2 SENSORS. Because it is restricted to whatever bike you set it up for, I AM STUCK WITH IT. I USE IT AS A TEMP AND use a TUNE that was input during the $600 Dyna Tune. I WILL BASH THE ADVERTISING THAT DID NOT MENTION THE O2 SENSORS THOUGH. If that bothers you, avoid the video.
It really is. I gave up. I took my bike to Main Street Moto/Las Vegas Dyno Tech and paid them $600 to do a physical DYNO TUNE on my bike, then they entered the MAP into the Power Vision in case my bike lost the tune, I could just reenter it into the Power Vision and FLASH the ECM again. Very, VERY disappointed that I am in Vegas, the people that created the DynoJET Power Vision are located in Vegas and they refused to make my $450 Handlebar Ornament work. I had to take it to another shop in Vegas to get my bike tuned. Not all of us understand how to configure this technology, I am not a bike mechanic. Oh yeah... forgot to mention, nearly every ride, somewhere during the ride the Power Vision just drops all of the numbers. Just ZEROS OUT! I have to pull over, restart the motorcycle and wait for the Power Vision to refresh the numbers again. PITA!DynaTunDynaTun
you will want to run this a few times. took about 5 times to get it dialed in perfectly on my fatbob.
just keep loading the previous autotune when you pick the tune to modify. and i always used scale not cap.
set it to autotune. run a full tank of gas in mixed riding conditions.flash and repeat till happy.
So you mean just keep auto tuning the previous auto tune map? Also what is scale and cap difference? Thanks
agree. i used this process because i felt like i didn't get enough information on the autotune session. i realized you can just keep the learned values and add on to them. pretty sick!
thanks Jeremy! you'd think these fuckers would explain such to us novice bastards! that is the #1 question I have been searching for all over the fuckin internet and couldn't find any explanation!!! THANKS!!!
One of my questions is when setting up (bike off, then key turning, are you powering down the tuner, and then will you have to start the process over after starting the bike
Lol holy crap are you kidding...Id have to watch this 100 times to get it to work...
it's not that bad! i was intimidated at first but it really is easy to use. i've only had mine on the bike for a week and feel it was a great investment.
Donde puedo ver los videos en español o subitulados?
Gracias.
very cool, thnak you very much.
i think that you can show how install Autotune on Powervision, that is the start!
This thing is great. But not quite understanding the scale and cap. One guy says scale. Another says don’t scale too much. I’ve done 2 autotune sessions and think it can be improved. But what do I do with scale and cap?
Any change in those two sessions?
@@danielpankey3853 oh for sure! Decel pop is pretty much non existent. It runs smoother. It purrs like a kitten. I highly recommend it. I and going to do a big bore kit with ported and polished and larger valves and 30deg reverse dome pistons and cams And the works through hammer Performance for about $2500. And this will allow me to do more tuning then the fp3 would have. So long story short I highly recommend it. And it’s easy to use as well.
@@danielpankey3853 hey man
How many time have you scale?
It was recommended to scale just 2 times, what do you thing ?
It's crazy the instructions for how to do this aren't included with the PowerVision.
There is a pdf manual on the CD with the program.
@@7heRedBaron on the what?
@@ChuckWood The device comes with a CD to load onto your computer, unless they are doing it all online since I bought mine. On the same CD is a full manual how to install it and use it.
When do you turn the key on?
Thanks for the video.
Dynojet, is there a PDF of the instructions on the ol imterwebs?
I dont have a CD drive anymore, turned it into a 2nd hardrive bay.
You should be able to find what you need here: www.dynojet.com/downloads/power-vision-for-harley-davidson/. If you can't find it there, contact us at pvtech@dynojet.com and we'll help you out.
@@DynojetResearch thank you!!
Is it best to ride around the streets and highways, or just basic riding?
+DynojetResearch well you know other people view these comments and are looking for similar answers. really silly that you'd send them away and lose potential customers.
How long should I ride around?How much info does it hold?
With the Harley tuner I used on my twin cam only had 10 minutes of information memory..
Can I do more than one auto tune session.
David, you want to fill in the GREEN log screen as much as you can. This may take 5 minutes or 20 minutes. Try to gather as much data as you can. After that session, apply the changes and do it again.
So how long are you supposed to “ride like you normally would”? I imagine it has a limit to how much information it can capture in one session and I see people suggesting to repeat the auto tune a few times. I highly doubt sitting on a dyno is going to help tune it for heavy traffic conditions. Well all want max power but I also need smooth running in stop and go situations. Can this thing continuously learn all of that? I just have to auto tune repeatedly or what? How many miles or minutes of driving?
The Autotune is constantly learning and making changes. The only limitation is how far it can tune from your base setting. Our default is +/- 20. So if your tune was way off and needed to adjust more than +/- 20 then you do need to ACCEPT TRIMS so it can continue to learn. There is not an amount of time that it needs to learn. Keep in mind that if the area of 8000 RPM at 80% throttle needs tuning and you never hit this spot then obviously it will never learn this area. So the more you can ride in this area the better.
We do NOT recommend allowing the kit to tune below 10% throttle unless you are absolutely sure you have a good reading and are not getting reversion thru the exhaust.
On our bikes, the AutoTune is always connected and learning. In one instance, after we got a good base tune, we did lower the allowed learning range to +/- 8.
Para cuando podreis traducirlo al español, o subtitularlo.
Gracias
I have been tuning my Nightster but I haven't really gotten into 5th gear so am I needing a long flat stretch so I can get top speed while on autotune?
Hi, the copy of original tune of the bike is somethign that the module is doing by itself, like an automatic backup? then, if you whant to do the autotune with the "copy of original tune" all the changes seems to be saved as a new cosutum tune, leaving the "copy of original one" as it was, am i right?
ok, now is clear, thanks
If you want to run autotune more than once after your first run and you export it and save.Do you disable autotune then re enable it and select the map you just autotune.I have heard 2 different things on that part?
so after you do this tune the auto tune is not needed to be connected? I was under the impression that it continually monitored the O2 and made changes all the time.So if I went to different places around the world I would have to program the power commander every time correct?
In this video you selected to use auto tune with "Copy of Original tune". If you do it this way, does it over write or affect the original tune in any way? In the event that I wanted to revert back to the original tune for any reason, I wouldn't want to change it. Thank you.
no, any changes made to that tune in the auto tune process will be saved to an auto tune results file.
+Lucas Holt Thank you.
Scale or capp?...🤔 What?
Hello, can you change idle rpms with power vision. Currently I have dynojet pcV can I change idle rpms with pcV?
Yes you can
Didn’t you forget to enable autotune ?
Oops , you did. Sorry
Still cannot find the answer to... whether or not I can install wide band O2 sensors in my 2002 Road King Screamin Eagle and if so, where do the wires from the O2 sensors plug into the ECM? Do I need a later model ECM that supported O2 sensors on a 2007 bike? Or is there some other way to connect O2 sensors to a 2002 ECM? So far, I have a Power Vision that does NOTHING for my bike. Auto Tune, the very reason I bought the Power Vision does not work without wide band O2 sensors, something that did not come on 2002 Harleys. If I cannot find a solution in 10 days, I will post a video of me shooting the Power Vision with an AR-15. Bet that will go viral.
Hello, Jon. Please reach out to our technical support and they will walk you through the process.
Toll free support line: 1-800-992-4993
Or fill out our online form to have a technical representative reach out to you www.dynojet.com/support-form
@@DynojetResearch Been talking with Pat and Mark for a week now. Unless there is a way to install O2 sensors and connect them to my 2002 ECM, there really is no walk thru. So far, nobody can answer if the 2002 Road King ECM will accept, connect to and read the prospectively installed O2 sensors or not. THAT is the magic solution. So far... NO LOVE FOUND!
@@DynojetResearch Been reaching for a week, nearly 10 days. I thought since the company that built the Power Vision is in my own home town, I could just run over to DynoJet and someone could physically help me with this NIGHTMARE, but no! NO PUBLIC CONTACT! That's always a red flag to me. They could solve a customer's nightmare in 15 minutes, but want no public contact. Kinda stanky.
@Jon Dize aka DIZEMAN just have your local muffler shop to weld bungs into your header 10min fix
@@danielgraham9104 Thanks! I heard welding Stainless Steel was more complicated than regular steel, have to find someone who can do SS properly.
These tuners are a pain in the ass.
Had I known Power Vision Auto Tune does not work on bikes with no O2 sensors, I would not have bought the Power Vision. Now I think I am EATING the $450 I spent on this ORNAMENT.
How in the world would you think auto tune would work without narrow band or wide band oxygen sensors? The problem was that you didn’t understand what you were buying and what you actually needed.
@@Dipndots87-ms6ds It was advertised as a tuner, nowhere in the advertising did it say it required other parts. Not everyone is a mechanic. I did not BASH the product, I simply STATED A FACT IN MY POST. IT DOES NOT WORK WITHOUT O2 SENSORS. Because it is restricted to whatever bike you set it up for, I AM STUCK WITH IT. I USE IT AS A TEMP AND use a TUNE that was input during the $600 Dyna Tune. I WILL BASH THE ADVERTISING THAT DID NOT MENTION THE O2 SENSORS THOUGH. If that bothers you, avoid the video.
WAY TOO COMPLICATED!
Paul, if you have questions, we're happy to help you. Please email us at pvtech@dynojet.com and we can walk you through it.
It really is. I gave up. I took my bike to Main Street Moto/Las Vegas Dyno Tech and paid them $600 to do a physical DYNO TUNE on my bike, then they entered the MAP into the Power Vision in case my bike lost the tune, I could just reenter it into the Power Vision and FLASH the ECM again. Very, VERY disappointed that I am in Vegas, the people that created the DynoJET Power Vision are located in Vegas and they refused to make my $450 Handlebar Ornament work. I had to take it to another shop in Vegas to get my bike tuned. Not all of us understand how to configure this technology, I am not a bike mechanic. Oh yeah... forgot to mention, nearly every ride, somewhere during the ride the Power Vision just drops all of the numbers. Just ZEROS OUT! I have to pull over, restart the motorcycle and wait for the Power Vision to refresh the numbers again. PITA!DynaTunDynaTun
@@DIZEMANPHOTO just keep riding it if the numbers drop out, mine comes back within seconds.