Bro!!!! I just installed the power vision on my 2015 road glide and wow. And damn!!!!! Night and day. I got a custom tune, plus I did some auto tunes and fuck me…. Best 600 clams I ever spent. My bike is so so smooth, and responsive, and the torque and throttle response…. Holy shit…. Kickin tires and lighten fires!!!! If you ain’t first your last!!!!! Let’s go baby!!!!
I am so glad you and others are out there. Computers just add so much more headache my tiny brain cannot nor will not keep up with. I do not miss roadside resetting of pushrod sleeves, changing jets for elevation changes and I look forward to adjusting the carb. I add oil to two of my bikes at most fuel stops because Harleys had a weep hole for that. Thank You Mr. Monkey, I am not offended. I laughed too! When anyone today bitches about injectors, ignition controls or fuel pressures I laugh. Because I know they don't want to carry a couple sets of needles just to get cross country. Now I do enjoy my Ladies 06 Goldwing and my Ultra for long distance riding. But I am not in any hurry these days and tuning the bike in a truck stop parking lot is only a pain in the rain. You all are in my prayers Hoka Hey
I have the PC "V" on my 09 Road King. It's simple and it works. I have a coupon for a dyno session at Dynojet here in Vegas but haven't done it yet. I really like their products. I used their jet kits for years on all my carbureted toys...
Smell of the exhaust isn't weird at all. That is supposed to happen. Good observation. The vibration thing also makes sense since a tuner should sync the amount of fuel needed with speed and power.
Used a power vision 3 on a metric twin with air cleaner and slip-on; the results can be felt immediately. Backed up by dyno pulls which showed the bike gained back parasitic loss between crank HP rating and the rear wheel actual. Very impressive results which just about anyone can do at home. I'm sold on the PV3.
Many people don’t think a good tuner isn’t necessary unless your doing a full build on the motor but they make a big difference in performance even with just pipes & intake. I have over 80k miles on my ThunderMax and it makes a huge impact. While stoke my bike was done at around 105 and after ThunderMax it’s still pulling at 115. “2011 Ultra Limited “
Excellent. I have the PowerVision on my 2016 HD Triglide. Last weekend’s ride from Pahrump NEV to Salome Az I performed a couple of AutoTunes. Excellent. Improved my mileage and performance on highway conditions.
All i can say is i have the Fuelmoto micro tuner by Dynojet on my Stage 1 TC103 and it works perfectly for me....I believe that sticking with Dynojet is a no brainer for me....Dont fix nothing that aint broke/Dont switch brands if it works great for you...
Got the dynojet for my 2008 road king from Fuel Moto they put in a custom tune for my bike worked great. Last year got the Woods 222 cams kit from them and they sent a tune for my bike and it is a big difference with their tune and going stage 2. Gave the 96 a new life will do the auto tune this year.
I have been running the Power Vision on my 2017 Ultra Limited for over a year about 20K miles, stage 2, was great then I added a head pipe with wide band target tune kit and that was what really woke it up.
I did a stage 1 upgrade to my 15 RGS and went with the Power Vision tuner. Totally agree with the changes you noticed. Very happy and went through Fuel Moto to get the tuner
When I did the stage 2 on my 107 with the S&S 475 cam my Indy installed a FP3. In my opinion the bike never ran properly even though the Indy I used had V&H send out a few different Maps to try and improve it. I contacted V&H and asked if anyone dyno tuned within 7 or 800 miles with there system and they came up empty. Long story short is I took the bike to a tuner who just sold me a dynojet license and had it professionally tuned. It made my Road King a totally different bike. So as the Monkey says the FP3 is a great tuner for stock or stage 1 otherwise get a real tuner.
I don't ride a Harley but I do enjoy your videos. I do think this tuner will make a difference and I have two sons that ride Road Glides now I can tell them about this. Thanks. Be safe, have fun.
It is cold in Minnesota still but I'm glad it's warm there 😂 I'm really happy with my power vision, I've been running it for a few years on my 16 RGU. Good stuff dude.
Love my Power Vision. Purchased from Fuel-Moto. Tuned both my Harleys with the same tuner. Am pretty impressed with the results. Just the immediate throttle response without any lag changes the ride immensely. Roll on an go. Nice video. Take care.
Keep up the good work your videos are awesome 👌. So I got a power vision tuner in my 21 roadglide with 128 SE motor. It had 0 power below 1500 rpm with stock tuner. Was just horrible would stall at lights when taking off. Finally managed to get the power vision tuner and had it on the dyno. Running awesome now no more throttle lag. Went from 116 hp and 120 tq to 121 hp and 130 tq with a solid gain across the whole graph.
Speaking from experience. My last build I needed to re-tune the Dyno Jet. My Power Commander was no longer supported, so I bought new...got a discount so no worries. OK...so...my build is not a plug and play update, so I need a dyno. Turns out the guy who used to tune it bitchen is out of business, and no other guys even remotely close do race tune. I used a guy in Reno. You ever meet one of those guys who, in less than a minute you want to go over the counter at? This was one of those guys. Turns out the guy didn't want any spec on the build, only did pulls to 4K on the dyno and borked my tune. My cams pull hard from 4K TO 7K. You can guess the rest. Storel of the Morey...once you get a good tune, don't make big changes until you know you have a good tuner nearby. Other than that...a computer in the hands of a skilled tuner is a DANGEROUS thing. lol
Dyno jet customer service is amazing , everytime I change something I send an email description and I get a response of exactly which tune I should load into the bike
Ive been running the PV for 9 years now...2013 Breakout, 3 touring bikes, a 17 Breakout Pro Street, and I also have one of my friends bikes in my tuner as well. Love the thing....yeah you dont actually need it at all if you are getting your bike Dyno'd, as DynoJet stores your license in the cloud, so you can go to ANY dyno tuner and they will have the license you purchased the first time...however I love having the unit in hand, as you can clear ANY error codes on any harley it will hook up to (no license needed to read and clear codes). On the tunes themselves, it immediately removes the speed limiter from Harley on the new bikes and it also removes the 10-15 percent throttle limiter in 1st and second gear that Harley throws in there as well. Its a GREAT little box and its been awesome that they built it to where you dont need to buy new hardware....like I said, I have used mine (with the putchase of the new cable) to tune 13's all the way to 2021 Harleys...all on my own tuner. I have 6 bikes tuned on mine and I keep a tune "library" of my own on all my bikes as I have upgraded each bike....the tuner stores 8 tunes at a time, but you can move them around from your computer....the PV can tune a limitless number of bikes as long as you continue to pay 200 bucks for each license and you can have limitless tunes stored on your PC...
Enjoy your video's edited or not! You have given me a lot of ideas. My bike is still under warranty but in a year all hell will break lose! Thanks man!
A little note, you are using a Power Vision PV-3B, not the Power Vision PV3. The B and the hyphen make it a different unit then the PV3, which I was hoping to see reviewed. And almost a $300 difference.
Good content my man! I had an FP3 on my Heritage and there wasn’t a warranty problem but have heard murmurs of it not being allowed now! I love the Bluetooth connectivity and had it on my phone while riding to better see speed, gear and engine temp!
No sh!t!!! The exhaust thing yes!!! I’m glad you said that. Just got this tuner and that was one of the first things I noticed. You got my follow bro. Keep the vids comin👍🏼
Big big fan of dyno jet. When I put my 83 yamaha seca 750, into an 82 650 yics seca and had to use the 650 carbs, they helped me get the right jets to compensate. I had European needles and jets and got rid of the xj650 flat spot. After I had the 750 rebuilt and the shop returned the jets to stock. The first place I'll ever look is dyno jet. Kings of their trade.
Power Vision is the way to go. I threw out the Power Commander 3 that came with my V-Rod and installed the Power Vision with Auto Tune module that comes with Wide Band O2 sensors. It was a total game changer. You're not crazy, it DOES make the bike run smoother! Once I did a bore, cams etc. it only took a couple AutoTune runs to tune it to the new setup and it's running awesome now.
You can also use the Power Vison to tune other bikes and only need to purchase a license per bike. I like mine and plan to do the same as you with a stage two upgrade. Looking forward to your stage two video.
Great vid mate, just purchased the PV3B & Target Tube for my RGST 131. The SE tuner I have/had makes the bike run hot and its super lean I looked at the mapping it the AFR is a compromise for the EPA as you state. I just did the exhaust so a recal is need and future upgrades are also happening, PV gives you the flexibility.
Thats totally Kool, how are ppl getting things so FAST? I ordered a Thunder Max (ECM, & fuel system) for 2000 RK 88 EFI last yr. Took 8 months to come in.. and dear God, Harley Dealer still working on it.. million things wrong with now,, any how... cant wait..
Sweet! I debated an FP3 and the Dynojet Power Vision Black for 3 solid weeks. Finally ordered the PV last night. Can't wait to get it. I currently don't have much to work with, but I am putting an Arlen Ness Big Sucker, and I already have Bassani 3.5" slash cut slip ons. Thinking of cams maybe this next year for my 2015 Limited. I had an FP3 on my 17 Street Bob and it did ok. Good enough for gooberment work. But I plan on doing some bigger stuff with this bike.
Pro Monkey I had one on my Fatboy before I bought the Tri Glide. Hope you and the wife are fine. It was nice to meet you both in Daytona with B and B at Advanblack tent.
I bought a Power Vision license for my '14 Road king from my independent shop so that they could tune the bike on a Dyno. This works good for me because I am not going to go in and play with the tune myself. I can carry the repair invoice that has the license number around with me next to the registration and if I am out of state and the bike for some unknown reason needs to be tuned again the tech just input's the Power Vision license number and he/she can tune away or I believe they can even load the last tune that my bike personally had. This saved me a few hundred dollars over buying the Tuner and accomplishes the same purpose. it's a great deal from Power Vision for customers like me who don't intend to go in there and mess up a technicians tune so to speak. I have a TTS tuner in my '17 RGS with a stage two. I have to carry that tuner with me and in the same scenario a Technician would have to interface and then download the tune from the Tuner. Any tech that tunes can use almost any of the Tuners out there to get the job done and I was told by my Tech that they all pretty much work the same way but is just familiarity with the software that is a little different when your in there changing maps. Anyway I like the license concept from a customers view and If I am buying that is the way I will go with any bike unless there is another technical breakthrough we don't know about yet. The TTS was in the '17 when I bought the bike used. Honestly I don't know how the EPA has not cracked down on this industry already and eliminated the ability to sell Tuners and shops to do this work as they have in the auto repair industry. I think we are all running on borrowed time.
I'll be ordering a PV to tune my 18 FLHC since warranty is up. Time to see how the HD 447 cam really performs after ditching the EPA compliance BS. Loved how my Streetglide runs with PV and my Reaper 465 cam. Good vid dude, appreciate the review.
I have been running a Dynojet Power Commander V on my 2007 Fatboy since 8/2014. It came pre-programmed for my application. Then in 2015 I took the Fatboy to Monroe LA to have the bike dyno tuned since I went from V&H short shots to the V&H Big Radius pipes. The bike has ran perfectly with this tuner. I may have to replace this tuner, with an Dynojet auto tune tuner, if I replace the cams in this 96" twin cam engine. Thanks for your review of some of Dynojets products.
PV3 should be standard equipment.. have a 14flhtk bought new. Noticed the bike loved those cool dry mornings like most any engine.. did the free flow exhaust and aircleaner and installed the PV3. Just like the vid, instant difference in exhaust smells.. ran 3 tune sessions for 20 min and the bike was transformed. Now every day it runs like its a cool morning... A year or so later i add a mild cam. No need to dyno.. just download a map close to what you have, flash and run a few tune sessions... the bike went from ok to hell yea... next is the wide band upgrade!
I mounted my PV3 to my aftermarket fairing on my road king/ streetking" since I didn't have any gauges. Plus having the highflow true duals and air cleaner it was getting a lean pop in deceleration and I was able to fix that as well!
I’ve had that on my 11 road king classic. It’s pretty awesome. I know this video is a year old but when you put a cam in you can get the target tune wide band o2 sensors and a new base map from power vision and then auto tune. No need for taking to a dyno tuner
Also, Fuel Moto has excellent custom MAPs (Dynojet Power Vision; and Dynojet PV3-B for '21-'22 Harleys) for all sorts of Stage-2 Cam and Exhaust System Combinations, and custom MAPs for Big Bore (Stage-3) and Big Bore + Heads (Stage-4). Even if running a stock or Stage-1 107, 114, 117...they have custom Stock Improved MAPs. And MAPs for HD SE 128/131 Stage-4 builds. Tom M.
I second this. No reason to get a dyno done with pre-made maps for stage 2 on fuel moto. Fuel moto can also read how your bike is running from the powervision and will also write you a custom map to get you running perfectly.
@@trentblom7665 Programmer Folks at Fuel Moto can look over results/log from Auto Tune Sessions and then make adjustments/corrections to fine tune the MAP further. This is very practical way to go and would work fine for most folks. Drag Racing applications (where the quest for extraction of every last HP & TQ is necessary) will still put the bike on the roller (Dyno).
Less vibration when cruising is a thing. It happens when it runs a bit more rich. It’s an easy test with a carb and playing with the idle mixture screw.
You aren't crazy at all. It will smell different and it sure will run differently and yes, that can impact vibrations at any speed including high speed. I don't know if there is any truth to it, but I have heard that HD detunes their motors a touch to add back in some vibration because people complained that it was too smooth and didn't "feel" like a harley.
Second what others have said ... Jamie takes his dyno runs and publishes them at Fuel Moto... he has a buy in if you did not purchase from him ... but the tech support is unmatched... you can always add Target Tune and it will constantly adjust for optimum and again having never seen a dyno itself , only the best tune from the bikes Jamie and the cats at Fuel Moto build and make available . Still recommend the Autotune Target Tune feature for your specific climate riding style etc
My buddy has 99 Electraglide. When he got pipes and Power Commander, they "set it rich to burn the pipes in". I can smell that he's been through an area a whole minute or two after he's gone if he gets on it. Lol
Hi again on this video what you are using is a Powervision 2. The Powervision 3 is a cheaper model that is smaller, no touchscreen and not the preferred one for the touring models. The one you have in the video is the Powervision 2 and is the best one they make (including the PV4).
Great vid as always, Mr. Monk - the laughs are just a bonus! I'm getting ready to add a PC V to my Adventure bike and I also purchased the Auto Tuner module. I'm not that computer savvy but Rottweiler Performance will load a working map for you if you just ask and then off to ride with the AT and it'll do its thing fixing up the best settings. I'm a big DynoJet fan from way back, I've had one on my Electra Glide for about 10 yrs now. Let us know how she does for ya longer term, esp the AutoTune functionality. Peace!
I had a m109r with a pc5 and loved it. When I got my 99 ultra that's the first thing I installed. Sucks they don't make the power vision for it. But Dyno jet products are great
I have used the Power Vision III and love it. By the way Factory and dealer can't void your warranty due to aftermarket parts because of the Magnuson Moss act. They would have to prove the powervision caused damage and even then they could only make you pay the repair but not void the warranty.
THey absolutley can if they can PROVE that you used "Off Road Use ONLY parts" on it....which is EXACTLY what the waiver you have to agree to on the startup screen is saying (you are acknowledging that you are using an OFF ROAD USE ONLY part on your bike). Within the ECU it will tag the software, saying that it has been modified by a Non Harley tuner (ALL non harley tuners are currently off road use only...if you find one that the EPA tags as on road use compliant it will be a POS).....so the Magnuson Moss act absolutely does NOT apply here. THat is what the huge EPA fine and consolation that Harley went through in 2017 was all about....because of thier screaming eagle tuner that they had to remove from the market
I bought the FP3 for my 2014 Sportster 72 1200 cc. I have Vance & Hines Pipes. That is the only modification. with the factory tune the bike did not start very well and I was getting a lean surge when cruising at bout 40 mph. I put the FP3 on the bike picked the pipes from there list and loaded the program from Vance & Hines. The bike starts and runs like two different bikes. Best money I spent. If you have mods they don't have on there list you can contact them and they will send you map.
Traded the heritage for a 21 Roadking Special, and got a new license for the PV. Fuelmoto did me up a new tune when I ordered their head pipe to match up with my 4.5 Rinehart DBX( yes you're fav slipons!!). Hope mine goes as smooth as your install.
Get the target tune too..it's wideband o2 sensors that makes even more of an difference. You have to get dynojet or fuelmoto to email you a tune for the powervison tuner that's compatible for the target tune but it's worth it. Most aftermarket exhaust have the wideband o2 sensors bungs
He has a '21. There is no target tune available yet. Fuel Moto is estimating that it will be late this year or early '23 before it's available for the Strategy 27 or 28 ECM.
Thanks for the info on the power commander that’s my next investment. Believe I’ll buy mine from fuel-moto I understand they will preinstall a map for your bikes installed components.
I noticed a difference in sound and throttle response on my bike as well as the smell of the exhaust. Also, it takes less throttle movement than with the stock tune that I had.
I been using power commander for yrs. Upgraded to pcv last yr and this wknd installed the auto tune kit. If you are going to run the auto tune go ahead and get the auto tune kit with the wide band 02 sensors. The power vision comes with Auto tune basic and uses ur narrow band 02 sensors/ stock sensors and those can only operate like 14.1 to 15.8 afr. Wide band kit ranges from like 10.9 to 18 afr. Now this auto tune is not a real time change. U have to ride with tune on get the map it created and send it to the pcv. Their target tune set up will make changes in real time if this is something ur looking for. No need to dyno tune if u have the auto tuner or the target tuner
Ive had a dynojet tuner on both of the bikes ive owned, and wont hesitate to buy from them again. I got my powervision through fuel moto and they preloaded it with a tune for my mods. Im pretty sure you can get a second license and the other cable for it and use it on the heritage too
One thing I'm constantly reading is how the newer fuel injection Harleys are running hotter and hotter. Your statement about factory Harleys running lean is probably a big part of that since lean engines run hotter.
Just put the pv3b on Mt 22 roadglide with stage 2 torque cam and rheunhart slip on, I think it made a huge difference. Seems to run quieter at idle. No more pinging on load which I was getting since I bought the bike. Happy with it. I bought mine right from dynojet, u can get it 50-60 bucks cheaper thru tab and other companies but dyno jet will load the new maps and load a custom map gor your bike according to what u got done to it. It will put u in the ball park and can dyno it to get it dialed in if u want. One thing on the video, you have to make sure the start switch is on as well. Also, if u got sausage fingers, use a pencil with eraser to hit the screen. And never hit the red button on the right of the screen, it looks like a power button but it is a reset button and will clear all the data clean... ouch. Dynojet sends them with the new updates and gas a white sticker on box for instructions. I had an issue with my screen not working properly and they had a new one fed exed to me in 2 days, great customer service.
Remember your PV can tune two bikes. You can buy a license that will allow it to marry to a second bike. This is cheaper than buying a second tuner for another bike. The downside is you only have 8 slots so both bike will share those 8 slots. Not a big deal for me because I save my maps on my PC and only have 1 slot with auto tune session maps.
Hey bud, new subscriber, your content is epic and some funny sh*t to boot! Just watched your old content on Sturgis, do’s and don’t. There were so many nuggets, so many takeaways, I found great value in…. Riding with the wrong crew, save a friendship, just go n your way, we’ll catch up later…. Have had several of those. Never know peeps until you ride or travel with them, and the wrong crowd can ruin a trip. Been there. Loved the putting the bike on the kickstand and take the bus if you’re drinking. Probably most valuable. Also you talked about the MCs and being respectful. Totally been in that surrounding and agree with it all. Do you find there to be a problem if a guy is minding his own business, rolling around town and bellied up to the bar with a red or black bandana on his head? Is that offending any MCs?
@@ProfessionalMonkey LOL! I wouldn’t think so. Like I said, I’ve ridden solo all over the place and ran into plenty of MCs, and find just being cool, keeping to yourself or whomever you’re bantering with, it all goes well. Just thought I’d ask in case something has changed. I was thinking maybe you and your bride need to go knock down an Iron Butt Saddlesore 1000 this year! Would love to enjoy that vlogging content!
That's the advantage of the Dyno Jet. Load a canned tune to get started and then do some rides with Auto Tune running to do the job a trip to the dyno would do to peak your tune. Ony an all-out race bike would need a dyno run after doing a full Auto Tune.
Yeah that’s all I ever use power vision. Also you could of tuned the The existing tune the Screamin eagle and you would not void your warranty whenever they plug it in I can’t tell what tuner is on there
Bro!!!! I just installed the power vision on my 2015 road glide and wow. And damn!!!!! Night and day. I got a custom tune, plus I did some auto tunes and fuck me…. Best 600 clams I ever spent. My bike is so so smooth, and responsive, and the torque and throttle response…. Holy shit…. Kickin tires and lighten fires!!!! If you ain’t first your last!!!!! Let’s go baby!!!!
I am so glad you and others are out there. Computers just add so much more headache my tiny brain cannot nor will not keep up with. I do not miss roadside resetting of pushrod sleeves, changing jets for elevation changes and I look forward to adjusting the carb. I add oil to two of my bikes at most fuel stops because Harleys had a weep hole for that.
Thank You Mr. Monkey, I am not offended. I laughed too!
When anyone today bitches about injectors, ignition controls or fuel pressures I laugh. Because I know they don't want to carry a couple sets of needles just to get cross country.
Now I do enjoy my Ladies 06 Goldwing and my Ultra for long distance riding. But I am not in any hurry these days and tuning the bike in a truck stop parking lot is only a pain in the rain.
You all are in my prayers
Hoka Hey
Love it. Every week bro. I hope your HOA approves that 50,000 square foot garage addition.
I have the PC "V" on my 09 Road King. It's simple and it works. I have a coupon for a dyno session at Dynojet here in Vegas but haven't done it yet. I really like their products. I used their jet kits for years on all my carbureted toys...
Gotta say, that’s one of the nicest sounding Harleys I’ve ever heard.
Power vision is definitely the best choice. Auto tune has always dialed bikes in a bit better for me too. Great upgrade 👍
Smell of the exhaust isn't weird at all. That is supposed to happen. Good observation. The vibration thing also makes sense since a tuner should sync the amount of fuel needed with speed and power.
I utilized an FP3 in my Dyna, and it fried the ECM. Changed over to a Dynojet and couldn’t be happier.
Used a power vision 3 on a metric twin with air cleaner and slip-on; the results can be felt immediately. Backed up by dyno pulls which showed the bike gained back parasitic loss between crank HP rating and the rear wheel actual. Very impressive results which just about anyone can do at home. I'm sold on the PV3.
I've been running this on my Sporty for almost 10 years. I love it. I also upgraded it to the "Pro" kit which includes wideband o2 sensors
Many people don’t think a good tuner isn’t necessary unless your doing a full build on the motor but they make a big difference in performance even with just pipes & intake. I have over 80k miles on my ThunderMax and it makes a huge impact. While stoke my bike was done at around 105 and after ThunderMax it’s still pulling at 115. “2011 Ultra Limited “
Excellent. I have the PowerVision on my 2016 HD Triglide. Last weekend’s ride from Pahrump NEV to Salome Az I performed a couple of AutoTunes. Excellent. Improved my mileage and performance on highway conditions.
All i can say is i have the Fuelmoto micro tuner by Dynojet on my Stage 1 TC103 and it works perfectly for me....I believe that sticking with Dynojet is a no brainer for me....Dont fix nothing that aint broke/Dont switch brands if it works great for you...
Got the dynojet for my 2008 road king from Fuel Moto they put in a custom tune for my bike worked great. Last year got the Woods 222 cams kit from them and they sent a tune for my bike and it is a big difference with their tune and going stage 2. Gave the 96 a new life will do the auto tune this year.
I have been running the Power Vision on my 2017 Ultra Limited for over a year about 20K miles, stage 2, was great then I added a head pipe with wide band target tune kit and that was what really woke it up.
I did a stage 1 upgrade to my 15 RGS and went with the Power Vision tuner. Totally agree with the changes you noticed. Very happy and went through Fuel Moto to get the tuner
When I did the stage 2 on my 107 with the S&S 475 cam my Indy installed a FP3. In my opinion the bike never ran properly even though the Indy I used had V&H send out a few different Maps to try and improve it. I contacted V&H and asked if anyone dyno tuned within 7 or 800 miles with there system and they came up empty. Long story short is I took the bike to a tuner who just sold me a dynojet license and had it professionally tuned. It made my Road King a totally different bike. So as the Monkey says the FP3 is a great tuner for stock or stage 1 otherwise get a real tuner.
I don't ride a Harley but I do enjoy your videos. I do think this tuner will make a difference and I have two sons that ride Road Glides now I can tell them about this. Thanks. Be safe, have fun.
It is cold in Minnesota still but I'm glad it's warm there 😂 I'm really happy with my power vision, I've been running it for a few years on my 16 RGU. Good stuff dude.
Right on
Love my Power Vision. Purchased from Fuel-Moto. Tuned both my Harleys with the same tuner. Am pretty impressed with the results. Just the immediate throttle response without any lag changes the ride immensely. Roll on an go. Nice video. Take care.
Keep up the good work your videos are awesome 👌. So I got a power vision tuner in my 21 roadglide with 128 SE motor. It had 0 power below 1500 rpm with stock tuner. Was just horrible would stall at lights when taking off. Finally managed to get the power vision tuner and had it on the dyno. Running awesome now no more throttle lag. Went from 116 hp and 120 tq to 121 hp and 130 tq with a solid gain across the whole graph.
10 torque just off a tuner change??? Damn!
@@ProfessionalMonkey That's not uncommon. I've been dyno tuning for many years and I've never seen a tune that can't be improved...
I went with the thundermax when my power commander took a crap. Very impressed.
Getting my soon too but I figured rear suspension first so that's next weeks project. Great video as always. Keep up the great work and ride safe. 🤙
Speaking from experience. My last build I needed to re-tune the Dyno Jet. My Power Commander was no longer supported, so I bought new...got a discount so no worries. OK...so...my build is not a plug and play update, so I need a dyno. Turns out the guy who used to tune it bitchen is out of business, and no other guys even remotely close do race tune. I used a guy in Reno. You ever meet one of those guys who, in less than a minute you want to go over the counter at? This was one of those guys.
Turns out the guy didn't want any spec on the build, only did pulls to 4K on the dyno and borked my tune. My cams pull hard from 4K TO 7K. You can guess the rest.
Storel of the Morey...once you get a good tune, don't make big changes until you know you have a good tuner nearby.
Other than that...a computer in the hands of a skilled tuner is a DANGEROUS thing. lol
Dyno jet customer service is amazing , everytime I change something I send an email description and I get a response of exactly which tune I should load into the bike
Ive been running the PV for 9 years now...2013 Breakout, 3 touring bikes, a 17 Breakout Pro Street, and I also have one of my friends bikes in my tuner as well. Love the thing....yeah you dont actually need it at all if you are getting your bike Dyno'd, as DynoJet stores your license in the cloud, so you can go to ANY dyno tuner and they will have the license you purchased the first time...however I love having the unit in hand, as you can clear ANY error codes on any harley it will hook up to (no license needed to read and clear codes). On the tunes themselves, it immediately removes the speed limiter from Harley on the new bikes and it also removes the 10-15 percent throttle limiter in 1st and second gear that Harley throws in there as well. Its a GREAT little box and its been awesome that they built it to where you dont need to buy new hardware....like I said, I have used mine (with the putchase of the new cable) to tune 13's all the way to 2021 Harleys...all on my own tuner. I have 6 bikes tuned on mine and I keep a tune "library" of my own on all my bikes as I have upgraded each bike....the tuner stores 8 tunes at a time, but you can move them around from your computer....the PV can tune a limitless number of bikes as long as you continue to pay 200 bucks for each license and you can have limitless tunes stored on your PC...
Love my dynojet also have the tuning module with it make a huge difference. Run auto tunes until you are happy with it. But keep running them.
Enjoy your video's edited or not! You have given me a lot of ideas. My bike is still under warranty but in a year all hell will break lose! Thanks man!
I’ve used PV several times on past projects … bad ass
A little note, you are using a Power Vision PV-3B, not the Power Vision PV3. The B and the hyphen make it a different unit then the PV3, which I was hoping to see reviewed. And almost a $300 difference.
Good content my man! I had an FP3 on my Heritage and there wasn’t a warranty problem but have heard murmurs of it not being allowed now! I love the Bluetooth connectivity and had it on my phone while riding to better see speed, gear and engine temp!
No sh!t!!! The exhaust thing yes!!! I’m glad you said that. Just got this tuner and that was one of the first things I noticed. You got my follow bro. Keep the vids comin👍🏼
That’s not the PV3. That’s the OG PV. The PV3 has no touch screen. It has a smaller screen, and some actual button to the left of the screen
Big big fan of dyno jet. When I put my 83 yamaha seca 750, into an 82 650 yics seca and had to use the 650 carbs, they helped me get the right jets to compensate. I had European needles and jets and got rid of the xj650 flat spot.
After I had the 750 rebuilt and the shop returned the jets to stock.
The first place I'll ever look is dyno jet. Kings of their trade.
Bad ass. Can’t wait to use mine again. 🤷🏽♂️
Power Vision is the way to go. I threw out the Power Commander 3 that came with my V-Rod and installed the Power Vision with Auto Tune module that comes with Wide Band O2 sensors. It was a total game changer. You're not crazy, it DOES make the bike run smoother! Once I did a bore, cams etc. it only took a couple AutoTune runs to tune it to the new setup and it's running awesome now.
You can also use the Power Vison to tune other bikes and only need to purchase a license per bike. I like mine and plan to do the same as you with a stage two upgrade. Looking forward to your stage two video.
Being able to do that has me looking hard at the Dyno Jet.
loved it tell it unmarry its self from the bike and leaves you stranded
Thank God it's about time.every time I heard you push the fp3 I died a little more inside
the FP3 isnt bad, but yeah, this is better for sure.
Great vid mate, just purchased the PV3B & Target Tube for my RGST 131. The SE tuner I have/had makes the bike run hot and its super lean I looked at the mapping it the AFR is a compromise for the EPA as you state. I just did the exhaust so a recal is need and future upgrades are also happening, PV gives you the flexibility.
Thats totally Kool, how are ppl getting things so FAST? I ordered a Thunder Max (ECM, & fuel system) for 2000 RK 88 EFI last yr. Took 8 months to come in.. and dear God, Harley Dealer still working on it.. million things wrong with now,, any how... cant wait..
Sweet! I debated an FP3 and the Dynojet Power Vision Black for 3 solid weeks. Finally ordered the PV last night. Can't wait to get it. I currently don't have much to work with, but I am putting an Arlen Ness Big Sucker, and I already have Bassani 3.5" slash cut slip ons. Thinking of cams maybe this next year for my 2015 Limited. I had an FP3 on my 17 Street Bob and it did ok. Good enough for gooberment work. But I plan on doing some bigger stuff with this bike.
Pro Monkey I had one on my Fatboy before I bought the Tri Glide. Hope you and the wife are fine. It was nice to meet you both in Daytona with B and B at Advanblack tent.
Have that same one. It does a great job. You’re gonna like it
I love it!
@@ProfessionalMonkey and thanks for you and Mrs Monkey for taking a photo with me at Destination Daytona. As cheesy as it sounds it made my day !
I think grabbing some performance numbers with the gauges now and after stage II would be interesting to see the actual gains.
I bought a Power Vision license for my '14 Road king from my independent shop so that they could tune the bike on a Dyno. This works good for me because I am not going to go in and play with the tune myself. I can carry the repair invoice that has the license number around with me next to the registration and if I am out of state and the bike for some unknown reason needs to be tuned again the tech just input's the Power Vision license number and he/she can tune away or I believe they can even load the last tune that my bike personally had. This saved me a few hundred dollars over buying the Tuner and accomplishes the same purpose. it's a great deal from Power Vision for customers like me who don't intend to go in there and mess up a technicians tune so to speak.
I have a TTS tuner in my '17 RGS with a stage two. I have to carry that tuner with me and in the same scenario a Technician would have to interface and then download the tune from the Tuner. Any tech that tunes can use almost any of the Tuners out there to get the job done and I was told by my Tech that they all pretty much work the same way but is just familiarity with the software that is a little different when your in there changing maps. Anyway I like the license concept from a customers view and If I am buying that is the way I will go with any bike unless there is another technical breakthrough we don't know about yet. The TTS was in the '17 when I bought the bike used.
Honestly I don't know how the EPA has not cracked down on this industry already and eliminated the ability to sell Tuners and shops to do this work as they have in the auto repair industry. I think we are all running on borrowed time.
They don't crack down because we all only ride our motorcycles off road silly!
The HD tuner is better than nothing I think , great videos PM especially when you bring out the multiple personality
True, agreed.
I'll be ordering a PV to tune my 18 FLHC since warranty is up. Time to see how the HD 447 cam really performs after ditching the EPA compliance BS. Loved how my Streetglide runs with PV and my Reaper 465 cam. Good vid dude, appreciate the review.
I have been running a Dynojet Power Commander V on my 2007 Fatboy since 8/2014. It came pre-programmed for my application. Then in 2015 I took the Fatboy to Monroe LA to have the bike dyno tuned since I went from V&H short shots to the V&H Big Radius pipes. The bike has ran perfectly with this tuner. I may have to replace this tuner, with an Dynojet auto tune tuner, if I replace the cams in this 96" twin cam engine. Thanks for your review of some of Dynojets products.
I'm sold for sure on the PV3. I really like this thing.
PV3 should be standard equipment.. have a 14flhtk bought new. Noticed the bike loved those cool dry mornings like most any engine.. did the free flow exhaust and aircleaner and installed the PV3. Just like the vid, instant difference in exhaust smells.. ran 3 tune sessions for 20 min and the bike was transformed. Now every day it runs like its a cool morning... A year or so later i add a mild cam. No need to dyno.. just download a map close to what you have, flash and run a few tune sessions... the bike went from ok to hell yea... next is the wide band upgrade!
The audio is much improved with the wireless. I use mine all the time with switching camera angles and big spaces.
I mounted my PV3 to my aftermarket fairing on my road king/ streetking" since I didn't have any gauges. Plus having the highflow true duals and air cleaner it was getting a lean pop in deceleration and I was able to fix that as well!
Very nice!
Nice video, power vision is a great tuner, along with TTS. 👍🏼
Love mine !super Dee duper tuner !
Thanks for video been shopping around and heard a lot of bad things about screamin eagle. Now I know what I will invest in thanks
I’ve had that on my 11 road king classic. It’s pretty awesome. I know this video is a year old but when you put a cam in you can get the target tune wide band o2 sensors and a new base map from power vision and then auto tune. No need for taking to a dyno tuner
Also, Fuel Moto has excellent custom MAPs (Dynojet Power Vision; and Dynojet PV3-B for '21-'22 Harleys) for all sorts of Stage-2 Cam and Exhaust System Combinations, and custom MAPs for Big Bore (Stage-3) and Big Bore + Heads (Stage-4). Even if running a stock or Stage-1 107, 114, 117...they have custom Stock Improved MAPs. And MAPs for HD SE 128/131 Stage-4 builds. Tom M.
I second this. No reason to get a dyno done with pre-made maps for stage 2 on fuel moto. Fuel moto can also read how your bike is running from the powervision and will also write you a custom map to get you running perfectly.
@@trentblom7665 Programmer Folks at Fuel Moto can look over results/log from Auto Tune Sessions and then make adjustments/corrections to fine tune the MAP further. This is very practical way to go and would work fine for most folks. Drag Racing applications (where the quest for extraction of every last HP & TQ is necessary) will still put the bike on the roller (Dyno).
Less vibration when cruising is a thing. It happens when it runs a bit more rich. It’s an easy test with a carb and playing with the idle mixture screw.
So I am not nuts? HA!
Everything I currently own is carbureted but the next bike I get that’s not I’ll give dyno jet a try
You aren't crazy at all. It will smell different and it sure will run differently and yes, that can impact vibrations at any speed including high speed. I don't know if there is any truth to it, but I have heard that HD detunes their motors a touch to add back in some vibration because people complained that it was too smooth and didn't "feel" like a harley.
Second what others have said ... Jamie takes his dyno runs and publishes them at Fuel Moto... he has a buy in if you did not purchase from him ... but the tech support is unmatched... you can always add Target Tune and it will constantly adjust for optimum and again having never seen a dyno itself , only the best tune from the bikes Jamie and the cats at Fuel Moto build and make available . Still recommend the Autotune Target Tune feature for your specific climate riding style etc
My buddy has 99 Electraglide. When he got pipes and Power Commander, they "set it rich to burn the pipes in".
I can smell that he's been through an area a whole minute or two after he's gone if he gets on it. Lol
Pro tip: buy from fuel moto and they will preload a custom tune before they send it to you
Hi again on this video what you are using is a Powervision 2. The Powervision 3 is a cheaper model that is smaller, no touchscreen and not the preferred one for the touring models. The one you have in the video is the Powervision 2 and is the best one they make (including the PV4).
Great vid as always, Mr. Monk - the laughs are just a bonus! I'm getting ready to add a PC V to my Adventure bike and I also purchased the Auto Tuner module. I'm not that computer savvy but Rottweiler Performance will load a working map for you if you just ask and then off to ride with the AT and it'll do its thing fixing up the best settings. I'm a big DynoJet fan from way back, I've had one on my Electra Glide for about 10 yrs now. Let us know how she does for ya longer term, esp the AutoTune functionality. Peace!
I had a m109r with a pc5 and loved it. When I got my 99 ultra that's the first thing I installed. Sucks they don't make the power vision for it. But Dyno jet products are great
Welcome convert to the PV freak show beer is cold whiskey strong enjoy.
I didn't notice the smell (newbie rider though) but I did notice the idle/vibration and able to cruise at a higher RPM. Great video as always
Thanks for watching!
I have used the Power Vision III and love it. By the way Factory and dealer can't void your warranty due to aftermarket parts because of the Magnuson Moss act. They would have to prove the powervision caused damage and even then they could only make you pay the repair but not void the warranty.
THey absolutley can if they can PROVE that you used "Off Road Use ONLY parts" on it....which is EXACTLY what the waiver you have to agree to on the startup screen is saying (you are acknowledging that you are using an OFF ROAD USE ONLY part on your bike). Within the ECU it will tag the software, saying that it has been modified by a Non Harley tuner (ALL non harley tuners are currently off road use only...if you find one that the EPA tags as on road use compliant it will be a POS).....so the Magnuson Moss act absolutely does NOT apply here. THat is what the huge EPA fine and consolation that Harley went through in 2017 was all about....because of thier screaming eagle tuner that they had to remove from the market
I bought the FP3 for my 2014 Sportster 72 1200 cc. I have Vance & Hines Pipes. That is the only modification. with the factory tune the bike did not start very well and I was getting a lean surge when cruising at bout 40 mph. I put the FP3 on the bike picked the pipes from there list and loaded the program from Vance & Hines. The bike starts and runs like two different bikes. Best money I spent. If you have mods they don't have on there list you can contact them and they will send you map.
I had TTS on backorder since last August i finally cancelled and bought fp3. It works will look more once i do cams but that's probably next year.
Love your style of vid!
Traded the heritage for a 21 Roadking Special, and got a new license for the PV. Fuelmoto did me up a new tune when I ordered their head pipe to match up with my 4.5 Rinehart DBX( yes you're fav slipons!!). Hope mine goes as smooth as your install.
Just ordered Pv4 for my '16 FXDB, stoked, sounds like they're gonna roll out some great features in the near future.
Damn that bike is slick
you can tune as many bikes as you want with the power vision 3. You just have to buy a licence for each one.
Thanks for the cool video
Get the target tune too..it's wideband o2 sensors that makes even more of an difference. You have to get dynojet or fuelmoto to email you a tune for the powervison tuner that's compatible for the target tune but it's worth it. Most aftermarket exhaust have the wideband o2 sensors bungs
He has a '21. There is no target tune available yet. Fuel Moto is estimating that it will be late this year or early '23 before it's available for the Strategy 27 or 28 ECM.
Exhaust sounds nice.
What ever works for you,Fp3 can map worked very well on stage 2,. 465 cam on a R.K.
Powervision is great. There are only a few worth voiding your power train warranty and it’s one. TTS and ThunderMax are the others.
Great share Fam. 🤙🏾🔥
Thanks for the info on the power commander that’s my next investment. Believe I’ll buy mine from fuel-moto I understand they will preinstall a map for your bikes installed components.
Definitely go through fuel Moto Fam. They will take care of you. Greta customer service.
I got mine though Fuel Moto and they can send you a tune for the cam you want to put in the bike.
Good sir, thank you for the valuable information. However the device you have in your hand doesn't appears to be a PV3.
I noticed a difference in sound and throttle response on my bike as well as the smell of the exhaust. Also, it takes less throttle movement than with the stock tune that I had.
Lol. One other thing. My speedometer is usually about 10% off after an AutoTune. I have to back into the device and manually adjust the speedometer.
Yes that is a nice tuner but there is nothing better on the market then the Thunder Max with Wave Tune.
I been using power commander for yrs. Upgraded to pcv last yr and this wknd installed the auto tune kit. If you are going to run the auto tune go ahead and get the auto tune kit with the wide band 02 sensors. The power vision comes with Auto tune basic and uses ur narrow band 02 sensors/ stock sensors and those can only operate like 14.1 to 15.8 afr. Wide band kit ranges from like 10.9 to 18 afr. Now this auto tune is not a real time change. U have to ride with tune on get the map it created and send it to the pcv. Their target tune set up will make changes in real time if this is something ur looking for. No need to dyno tune if u have the auto tuner or the target tuner
Ive had a dynojet tuner on both of the bikes ive owned, and wont hesitate to buy from them again. I got my powervision through fuel moto and they preloaded it with a tune for my mods.
Im pretty sure you can get a second license and the other cable for it and use it on the heritage too
I thought of that but the 21 units have different internals because of the different ECM they started with in 2021. Bummer right!?
Damn you harley haha, that sucks, but glad to see you tried them and seemed to like it
@@05RangerXLT you are correct, it's should be as simple as a cable swap and switch to the older version on the laptop.
One thing I'm constantly reading is how the newer fuel injection Harleys are running hotter and hotter. Your statement about factory Harleys running lean is probably a big part of that since lean engines run hotter.
Absolutely. One of the reasons an aftermarket tune is important even if the bike is stock.
Just put the pv3b on Mt 22 roadglide with stage 2 torque cam and rheunhart slip on, I think it made a huge difference. Seems to run quieter at idle. No more pinging on load which I was getting since I bought the bike. Happy with it. I bought mine right from dynojet, u can get it 50-60 bucks cheaper thru tab and other companies but dyno jet will load the new maps and load a custom map gor your bike according to what u got done to it. It will put u in the ball park and can dyno it to get it dialed in if u want. One thing on the video, you have to make sure the start switch is on as well. Also, if u got sausage fingers, use a pencil with eraser to hit the screen. And never hit the red button on the right of the screen, it looks like a power button but it is a reset button and will clear all the data clean... ouch. Dynojet sends them with the new updates and gas a white sticker on box for instructions. I had an issue with my screen not working properly and they had a new one fed exed to me in 2 days, great customer service.
Remember your PV can tune two bikes. You can buy a license that will allow it to marry to a second bike. This is cheaper than buying a second tuner for another bike. The downside is you only have 8 slots so both bike will share those 8 slots. Not a big deal for me because I save my maps on my PC and only have 1 slot with auto tune session maps.
There's a difference in the PV for 21+ bikes I am pretty sure, I dont' think it's just the cable.
Hey bud, new subscriber, your content is epic and some funny sh*t to boot! Just watched your old content on Sturgis, do’s and don’t. There were so many nuggets, so many takeaways, I found great value in…. Riding with the wrong crew, save a friendship, just go n your way, we’ll catch up later…. Have had several of those. Never know peeps until you ride or travel with them, and the wrong crowd can ruin a trip. Been there. Loved the putting the bike on the kickstand and take the bus if you’re drinking. Probably most valuable. Also you talked about the MCs and being respectful. Totally been in that surrounding and agree with it all. Do you find there to be a problem if a guy is minding his own business, rolling around town and bellied up to the bar with a red or black bandana on his head? Is that offending any MCs?
Not really. The truth is there isn't a color on earth that doesnt mean something somewhere so for that week people don't obsess.
@@ProfessionalMonkey LOL! I wouldn’t think so. Like I said, I’ve ridden solo all over the place and ran into plenty of MCs, and find just being cool, keeping to yourself or whomever you’re bantering with, it all goes well. Just thought I’d ask in case something has changed. I was thinking maybe you and your bride need to go knock down an Iron Butt Saddlesore 1000 this year! Would love to enjoy that vlogging content!
Most excellent video
Thanks!
You can use it to read and clear any codes.
integrated flame throwers - that's the upgrade
I need those...
I have learned, no matter what tuner you use the canned maps are only so so. Any tuner you have to dyno tune your bike to get the most out of it.
That's the advantage of the Dyno Jet. Load a canned tune to get started and then do some rides with Auto Tune running to do the job a trip to the dyno would do to peak your tune. Ony an all-out race bike would need a dyno run after doing a full Auto Tune.
Yeah that’s all I ever use power vision. Also you could of tuned the The existing tune the Screamin eagle and you would not void your warranty whenever they plug it in I can’t tell what tuner is on there
Good video,