Hot Brakes vs Cold Brakes! BeamNG. Drive

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  • čas přidán 19. 10. 2020
  • Another braking test!
    This time, we're gonna see how much ambient temperature affects stopping power
    on both drum and disc brakes!
    Enjoy!
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    Map used: www.beamng.com/resources/ssrb...
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Komentáře • 436

  • @Al93271
    @Al93271 Před 3 lety +1681

    Idle car's brakes: 29°C
    Driving car's brakes: *89°C*
    F1 car brakes at peak: *_1 0 0 0 °C_*

    • @rafaelcerqueira6117
      @rafaelcerqueira6117 Před 3 lety +4

      Lol

    • @anaccount1
      @anaccount1 Před 3 lety +7

      Ikr not that hot

    • @BR_UH0007
      @BR_UH0007 Před 3 lety +92

      My pc while playing: 95°C

    • @mrpiese1295
      @mrpiese1295 Před 3 lety

      @@BR_UH0007 My pc while OCCT

    • @HaXD1209
      @HaXD1209 Před 3 lety +24

      @@anaccount1 it is THAT hot. In fact nearly all racing cars brakes can reach that temperature. Going from 300 to 0 in 150M requires heat

  • @SkyboundMar
    @SkyboundMar Před 3 lety +1515

    I noticed how you used the red cars for hot and blue cars for cold lol

    • @szpecunio
      @szpecunio Před 3 lety +75

      Congrats

    • @T-y-39
      @T-y-39 Před 3 lety +46

      Quite clever actually

    • @justinjefferson1888
      @justinjefferson1888 Před 3 lety +42

      Bruh, ur a genius

    • @phoneticalballsack
      @phoneticalballsack Před 3 lety +42

      they tought us how to write cursive, and they teach this guy to recognize that the color red is associated with heat... what a prodigy

    • @ch0005649
      @ch0005649 Před 3 lety +8

      Brilliant

  • @cameronjones1283
    @cameronjones1283 Před 3 lety +1227

    I think these tests were inconsistent especially if I can visibly watch the cars break at different points. Plus I think there's a screen app that would show you your stopping distances to give us a perfect accurate data.

    • @robert.39
      @robert.39 Před 3 lety +35

      To incosistent for me :))

    • @fishrsa9046
      @fishrsa9046 Před 3 lety +18

      the app kinda sucks because the timer will continue to run because of the car swinging on the suspension even after the car has stopped driving

    • @brunoseabra8089
      @brunoseabra8089 Před 3 lety +31

      Also the tire temperature changes too cuz of the way he changed the temperature

    • @keloduma
      @keloduma Před 3 lety +3

      Yupp

    • @xlii_
      @xlii_ Před 3 lety +7

      Plus you would have to run without abs

  • @reactandgame7215
    @reactandgame7215 Před 3 lety +316

    This man's reaction time is fascinating 😂

    • @safersisic9562
      @safersisic9562 Před 2 lety +30

      he have the reaction time of a dead horse xD

    • @Dia1Up
      @Dia1Up Před 2 lety +3

      As the video went on, he got much more consistent heh

  • @J2ko
    @J2ko Před 3 lety +296

    everyone gangsta till it's engine operating temperature outside

    • @kjp-sy8uf
      @kjp-sy8uf Před 3 lety +17

      Or graphics card operating temperature, most engines operate at 90°c and my gpu hits that

    • @Noooo23523
      @Noooo23523 Před 3 lety +3

      @@kjp-sy8uf oil or water in the engine is at 95 normally and gets cooled nonstop to not go over overheating point the engine has parts in it that work at houndreds of degree i think

    • @Noooo23523
      @Noooo23523 Před 3 lety

      @@kjp-sy8uf and cpu cores can make heat in such a small point its like the sun

  • @deadmemes2053
    @deadmemes2053 Před 3 lety +392

    I think if its 150C out side ill have bigger issues than the braking distance of my car

  • @jjmmjj9999
    @jjmmjj9999 Před 3 lety +338

    Could I suggest a remake of this?
    Prehaps, using a macro to brake after a set amount of time?
    I think a fail proof and very repeatable macro would be:
    Left mouse click
    After 7 seconds brake key
    Hover mouse over the cruise control button
    Initiate the macro - click and then countdown and brake
    This way, both cars and all speeds will brake at the exact same time to leave absolutely no room for error
    Curious to see how they'll perform then

    • @midlifeparty
      @midlifeparty Před 3 lety +22

      Isnt there also a braking distance app in beamng.drive? So the accuracy would be great with the macros and the app

    • @DarkIzo
      @DarkIzo Před 3 lety +9

      and same tires for every test car

    • @feiks420
      @feiks420 Před 3 lety +11

      yeah thats what i also thought about - the braking time is very inaccurate

    • @mxblaze6784
      @mxblaze6784 Před 3 lety +12

      Breaking is very in accurate he breaked too late and too early almost every run

    • @chaboiethz7483
      @chaboiethz7483 Před 3 lety +1

      In addition all cars should be the same,eliminating variables like weight etc

  • @RAPXZibit
    @RAPXZibit Před 3 lety +65

    1. Use brake distance timer, app called “performance”, included by default - measures distance and time
    2. Test stock brakes with upgraded tires - less room for variables
    2.1 Great accuracy can be achieved with increased total grip of surface and increased speeds - test brakes on sticky drag strip (ofc you need to change stickiness of this road, or maybe increase grip for tires via file)
    3*. Test also different types of brakes on one car, stock discs, sport and race variants

  • @Makarov13778
    @Makarov13778 Před 3 lety +18

    *_Press F11 to enter world editor!_*
    Me with almost 1000 hours of gameplay: *WHAT????*

  • @hamstirrer6882
    @hamstirrer6882 Před 3 lety +147

    Do any of the cars in beam have simulated carbon ceramic brakes? Those would show a very noticable difference between hot and cold.

    • @alexmissio2230
      @alexmissio2230 Před 3 lety +47

      Yes, if you use full race brakes the difference between cold and hot brakes is noticeable

    • @d.muller5944
      @d.muller5944 Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah I would love to see a remake with race brakes.

  • @herraberg9272
    @herraberg9272 Před 3 lety +34

    Is it just me or is he braking late on almost everyone

  • @Domestic_Tedster
    @Domestic_Tedster Před 3 lety +472

    Oooooo!! I wonder if turbos are effected with temperatures in beamng

    • @johnnygeorgopoulos4072
      @johnnygeorgopoulos4072 Před 3 lety +77

      Well, once they go over about 1500°c they overheat and then bye bye boost

    • @justagamer182
      @justagamer182 Před 3 lety +20

      @@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 well I'd say it goes at 69420

    • @99thpeanut59
      @99thpeanut59 Před 3 lety +20

      I’ve overheated one a few times before. Slowly loses boost.

    • @Stanley88845
      @Stanley88845 Před 3 lety

      They are, when they get too hot they loose boost

    • @mrboss724
      @mrboss724 Před 3 lety +1

      @@justagamer182 no

  • @michaelsmith7818
    @michaelsmith7818 Před 3 lety +108

    I notice how almost every car passed the cone and brakes were applied at different points

    • @Sak-zo1ui
      @Sak-zo1ui Před 2 lety +5

      The real issue is the vehicles were in gear and rpms were at different points helping the vehicle slow down. A proper test would put the car in neutral and hold 60mph. Using time rather than distance would be an easier test to see the differences in braking performance.

  • @sekutofu6471
    @sekutofu6471 Před 3 lety +32

    realisticly if u use the brakes at -100c° they will just crack to the sudden raise of tempeture

    • @zebrahunter6956
      @zebrahunter6956 Před 3 lety +32

      Realistically, you the driver would have frozen to death

    • @sekutofu6471
      @sekutofu6471 Před 3 lety +4

      @@zebrahunter6956 exactly XD

    • @ajemajh
      @ajemajh Před 3 lety +1

      @@zebrahunter6956 big brain

    • @alias_aka_alias
      @alias_aka_alias Před 3 lety +2

      Even if the Driver has an EV suit and the brajes wouldn't explode, the tire wouldn't react anymore

    • @agrisimfarming
      @agrisimfarming Před 3 lety +3

      *taps forehead
      “You don’t need to brake if you are dead”

  • @Matt-di6nb
    @Matt-di6nb Před 3 lety +2

    YES! Thanks so much for showing how to change temperature!

  • @jorge8596
    @jorge8596 Před 3 lety +11

    In order for this test to depend entirely on the brakes you should've used the grippiest tires available, heavier cars and higher speeds

  • @---ls5qd
    @---ls5qd Před 3 lety +11

    Nice video!
    May you do another episode where you compare street-, sport- and racepads.
    Because the effective temps are much different for the different pads.

  • @tiutubanana7506
    @tiutubanana7506 Před 3 lety +42

    Remember that he is not only changing brake temperature, he is also changing tyre temperature. Plus cold ambient temperature helps the brakes not to overheat. So not the best experiment in my opinion :c

  • @Asgard2693
    @Asgard2693 Před 3 lety +14

    Your braking was way off, I'll test myself.

  • @spoons1153
    @spoons1153 Před 3 lety +11

    So basically hot drums are better than cold drums and cold discs are better than hot discs. I’d imagine the material has something to do with it as well.

    • @hubertkam7647
      @hubertkam7647 Před 3 lety +10

      its different in real life cold disc dont work very well

    • @FSXgta
      @FSXgta Před 3 lety +4

      I think temperature slider might be added in full version/or later. but for now it seems the devs are more worried about the basics, details later

  • @boilingcrab267
    @boilingcrab267 Před 3 lety

    bro i love your videos so much i have post notifications on👍🏻👍🏻

  • @fishrsa9046
    @fishrsa9046 Před 3 lety +7

    Use slow motion (alt+left/right arrow keys) and a straight line across the road to have a more precise braking point, the points are uneven for the cars so they aren't lined up properly relative to eachother in the end according to how long it took for them to stop

  • @jamesstillgames
    @jamesstillgames Před 3 lety +8

    dude! is your reaction time like messed up or something. it takes like a second for you to "stomp on the brakes" after the bollard

  • @rodromindustries8714
    @rodromindustries8714 Před 3 lety

    excellent video, I love these types of videos, good selection red for hot and blue for cold. XD

  • @theblitz1687
    @theblitz1687 Před 3 lety +4

    As long as brakes arent overheating, hot temperatures should consistently stop earlier.

  • @nannettenieuwenhuizen1510

    I love all your videos

  • @integrationofmanandmachine4714

    thanks for showing how to change the temperature otherwise i couldn't stand without searching about it :))))

  • @brbeast185
    @brbeast185 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for that tutorial at the beginning

  • @bmwe39racer
    @bmwe39racer Před 3 lety +1

    Good video dude

  • @J-Crash
    @J-Crash Před rokem +1

    Better way to do this video would be to sue replays.
    (while recording the replay)
    1. Pause the game to allow all vehicles to accelerate at the same time
    2. Once they get to the end, pasue game again to allow them to stop at the same time
    I'm pretty sure this would help.

  • @simonw2631
    @simonw2631 Před 2 lety

    My question is, how do you not lock up the wheels bcs on these old cars when i play i can’t brake without locking up (on keybord tho)

  • @marcs6970
    @marcs6970 Před 3 lety

    Awesome 👏🏻

  • @samjustice683
    @samjustice683 Před 3 lety

    Is the coefficients of friction on the surface changing with temperature? Or is the temperature change only on the brakes? Seems like the entire environment is affected by the temp.

  • @racer927
    @racer927 Před 2 lety +2

    Overall: it seems cold brakes fare better than warm brakes due to being able to absorb more energy to a certain point. When the brakes are extremely cold, I think that the shoes/discs have contracted to the point that the calipers don't squeeze as hard as they do on warmer, more expanded shoes/discs.

    • @lol-de4lo
      @lol-de4lo Před rokem

      Nah, they just forgot to program it

  • @pythonboi5816
    @pythonboi5816 Před rokem +1

    I liked the video just because you needed to know how to apply temp.
    Thx
    Oh and
    I’d just like to say this isn’t the too accurate. The time you start breaking is a bit off

  • @wilbur6089
    @wilbur6089 Před 3 lety +8

    Props to the Devs for making the brake diagram thing bluish to signify the coldness, even though it is almost never looked at

    • @thatguyalex2835
      @thatguyalex2835 Před 2 lety

      Developers are a talented group of people in general. It takes skill, way beyond any human, it seems. I can barely get Python 3.0 to work with me in Jupyter Notebook. Lol...

  • @jpleorx77
    @jpleorx77 Před rokem +1

    I also wonder how well is tire grip simulated in BeamNG and whether changing temperatures had any affect on tire grip levels. If so the changes in grip would influence braking distances more than the actual brake temperatures.

  • @joshr7434
    @joshr7434 Před 3 lety

    How do you pull up the monitor for cars stats?

  • @MrMattIsHigh
    @MrMattIsHigh Před 3 lety +2

    Dude seriously thx for doing the tutorial to change the temperature I wanted to do that

  • @BRKZZ_
    @BRKZZ_ Před 3 lety +17

    Do you know how to put pops and bang in beamNG? Or flames in exhaust?

    • @ekamjotsingh8705
      @ekamjotsingh8705 Před 3 lety +2

      I want to know aswell

    • @arthurlima176
      @arthurlima176 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ekamjotsingh8705 just remove the exhaust

    • @BRKZZ_
      @BRKZZ_ Před 3 lety

      @@arthurlima176 I just wanted to see a lot of fire coming out of the back of the car like the Nissan GTR, Supra or Mustang

    • @arthurlima176
      @arthurlima176 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BRKZZ_ a straight piped exhaust will do it

    • @ForgottenMustard
      @ForgottenMustard  Před 3 lety +2

      czcams.com/video/7zvPr74hKI8/video.html

  • @kleetus92
    @kleetus92 Před 2 lety

    I think there's a glitch in the game. Cold brakes do not work as well as up to temperature brakes. Notice I did not say hot brakes. Each pad or shoe compound is going to have it's optimal operating range.
    This is why you should not use 'race' pads for street use on your car. If some idiot pulls out in front of you, by the time the brakes generate enough heat to start making serious friction, you've hit the car.
    I don't know that BeamNG has detail down to that level... maybe they do... but in any case for the same conditions, cold brakes should always take more time to stop than normal operating temperature brakes.

  • @GraveUypo
    @GraveUypo Před rokem +1

    initial brake temps shouldn't matter much, it'll shoot up to hundreds either way. for tire grip on the other hand, that matter a lot more

  • @Gameboy-sj5nx
    @Gameboy-sj5nx Před 3 lety

    Nice video

  • @yourbigfan1777
    @yourbigfan1777 Před rokem

    I wish there was a mod to actually perform these kinds of tests much more accurately

  • @ffran41
    @ffran41 Před 3 lety +1

    Good video mate! But this is not only a brake test, it's also a wheel grip test. You realized?

  • @leanderbuerger1660
    @leanderbuerger1660 Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you for explaining how to Change Temperatur!
    But how can i get in the editor when my f11 Key is a shortcut for my computer?
    Please reply
    Thank you

  • @zocker717
    @zocker717 Před 3 lety

    How do you do this at the top left with the brake temperature

  • @evanhadyanmd1313
    @evanhadyanmd1313 Před 3 lety

    As far as I know, the max temperature of normal brakes is below 200 ° C, except for the caliper made from carbon ceramic

  • @ryshawn87
    @ryshawn87 Před rokem

    People have to remember that it’s simple heat transfer. No matter the temp as long as the brakes can transfer the kinetic energy they gonna do their job

  • @shadup7571
    @shadup7571 Před 3 lety

    Tnx for showing me the world editor option.
    Now I dont have sky in the game

  • @Peresecta
    @Peresecta Před 2 lety

    How can I see in the game the temperature of the brakes? I dont find any setting to see it

  • @intiyazgamingchannel7344

    Which software your are using

  • @cmdrratzass7305
    @cmdrratzass7305 Před 3 lety

    Well, I guess driving in temperatures around 150°C or -150°C would make a much bigger difference in real life. Somehow the tires don’t seem to be affected by ambient temperature at all.

  • @elgrandecaro
    @elgrandecaro Před 3 lety

    Just food for thought, these tires are at their limits, and you can only stop as fast as your tires let you. If you revisit this test, I suggest changing the tires to better tires, so abs isn’t kicking in and the tires aren’t at the limit

  • @rextransformation7418
    @rextransformation7418 Před 3 lety

    Hmh... To be more precise there should have been an automatic breaking system that would activate by itself on the same exact position for every car. Breaking slightly later or earlier does change the outcome.

  • @terrantum4813
    @terrantum4813 Před 3 lety

    hehe. teacher: what’s so funny? Me: nothin. Me: All Cars Have ABS 0:18

  • @beachmonkey1990
    @beachmonkey1990 Před rokem

    I assume the tyre would also be at a different temp, that’d have a huge impact on braking

  • @MMT--Games
    @MMT--Games Před 3 lety +1

    There is no base folder how can i find it?

  • @bryanross1100
    @bryanross1100 Před 2 lety

    My only concern with this experiment is the tires. Cold tires get less grip. The ABS light flashing shows that the tires are affecting the experiment. But maybe temperature doesn't affect tires in this game in which case, ignore everything I just said

  • @avinashdyasa
    @avinashdyasa Před 2 lety

    Wont the surface temperature also change and play a role in this??

  • @Takazikano
    @Takazikano Před rokem +1

    Me in the car: 😎🥶😳🥶🥵🥶🥵🥶💀💀

  • @slayerficated
    @slayerficated Před 2 lety

    wouldn't this effect the tire temp and road temp too?

  • @vectorcruzusa
    @vectorcruzusa Před 3 lety

    Were you trying to brake after the bollard?

  • @AutoSR
    @AutoSR Před 3 lety

    Carbon Ceramics would be interesting.

  • @dima-ho6cx
    @dima-ho6cx Před 3 lety +9

    6:08 head blew.

  • @alias_aka_alias
    @alias_aka_alias Před 3 lety

    Tire temperature: Am i a joke to you?

  • @ataro8271
    @ataro8271 Před 3 lety +1

    When the point comes he only brakes after he has passed it 30 meters

  • @PotatoeJoe69
    @PotatoeJoe69 Před 3 lety

    BeamNG seems to think that all brakes work like F1 Carbon brakes, where they need to be very hot to function well

  • @Fregatte86
    @Fregatte86 Před 3 lety +1

    Glow brakes mod? It's good

  • @MXMTBJASPER
    @MXMTBJASPER Před 3 lety

    How do you change ambient temps in beam now

  • @abysswalker2403
    @abysswalker2403 Před 3 lety

    u should have used the braking distance widget. these tests seemed slightly inconsistent with response times

  • @vincea1830
    @vincea1830 Před 3 lety +2

    Brakes work by converting rotational energy into heat

  • @adnaneouarid189
    @adnaneouarid189 Před 3 lety

    Tires played big role here

  • @YansenHaryanto4547
    @YansenHaryanto4547 Před 3 lety

    The limiting factor on this video is tyre grip during cold test

  • @marc1950
    @marc1950 Před 3 lety

    I dont have the folder "base" can you help me?

  • @alfire2345
    @alfire2345 Před 3 lety

    I learn one thing hirochi sunburst have a better coolant than the other ( I didn’t pay attention to that before )

  • @ballist5102
    @ballist5102 Před rokem

    What do you have to press to see the brakes

  • @LAPD071
    @LAPD071 Před 3 lety +1

    Хей бро, огромное спасибо за подсказку(как изменить температуру).
    если бы не посмотрел твое видео, дальше бы и находился в недоумении, ты просто лучший, лайк+подписка, красавчик!!!

  • @rosaliedollente1651
    @rosaliedollente1651 Před 3 lety

    What i learned: the more the heat the better the colder worser for disck brakes and its upside at drum brakes

  • @AlessandroArgese
    @AlessandroArgese Před 3 lety

    Very good work, but let me ask: why ABS even to drum brakes cars?

  • @wtwyw9
    @wtwyw9 Před 2 lety

    Bigger factors in breaking distance are tyre's and asphalt's temperature

  • @Hector-ok7pf
    @Hector-ok7pf Před 3 lety

    where did you get the brake app?

    • @ForgottenMustard
      @ForgottenMustard  Před 3 lety +1

      Look in the apps menu for "brake torque graph" and "simple brake thermals".

  • @petergriffingaming6115

    How do I get my world editor back? It disappeared.

  • @ferdi_the_shark577
    @ferdi_the_shark577 Před 3 lety

    Ohh thas hot

  • @ataro8271
    @ataro8271 Před 3 lety +1

    killing reflexes

  • @Nathan15038
    @Nathan15038 Před 3 lety

    Your brakes should be cool cuz then they will fade if u like break a lot which will lead to not being able to break

  • @chincemagnet
    @chincemagnet Před 2 lety

    Your reaction speed is the largest factor

  • @psicho222
    @psicho222 Před 3 lety +1

    with abs, stopping on any brakes will be about the same

  • @edward002gaming
    @edward002gaming Před 3 lety

    Cool a hudson hornet

  • @ThePeach_PieHQ
    @ThePeach_PieHQ Před 2 lety

    drum brakes surprisingly better than rotors from what I've gathered

  • @supertrinigamer
    @supertrinigamer Před 3 lety +1

    Why don't you use slow motion for braking? The braking is EXTREMELY inconsistent. I'd put something down like a speed bump, which would be more accurate but affect ALL results. At least they'd be affected all equally though

  • @lavalamp3773
    @lavalamp3773 Před 3 lety +1

    Imagine thrashing your engine at 6000 rpm on a 150 C day. 😂

  • @dasharoundtheworld7118
    @dasharoundtheworld7118 Před 3 lety +1

    1:27 for brake test

  • @veladeignicao1864
    @veladeignicao1864 Před 3 lety

    So at low speed temperature does not affect that much. Fading only shows up at very high temperature. It increases at high speeds too

  • @kanovic472
    @kanovic472 Před 3 lety

    Also it depends on your reaction time ;)

  • @der_tijer5804
    @der_tijer5804 Před 3 lety

    I like that game

  • @lucasdilodovico5995
    @lucasdilodovico5995 Před rokem

    Am I the only one who saw him brake late for cold every time but braked immediately for hot

  • @nancitomp
    @nancitomp Před 3 lety

    I think that the tyre temperature also affected on the braking distance

  • @pedrinhosodre2011
    @pedrinhosodre2011 Před 3 lety

    I think that the hot cars are stoping fast because the tires are warmer than the cold ones

  • @keithmerle8756
    @keithmerle8756 Před rokem

    What is this map called