First Time Reading THE WALKING DEAD Comic - FULL REVIEW
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- My full review from Compendium 1-4 of THE WALKING DEAD Comic series
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The reason the Negan killing Glenn scene works better in the comics is, initially in the OG run, it just... happens. Issue 100 comes out, Negan just shows up, turns Glenn into hamburger helper, and is gone in less than half the issue. It's so sudden and brutal, and doesn't have a 6 month wait time to see what happens
Tbf, the time between S6's finale and S7 was a great time to be a TWD fan. The amount of theory and analysis videos breaking down every frame and sound effect was countless. It really made you hyped-yet-scared to see who's poor head received Lucille; and how baffling it was that not only Abraham, but ALSO Glenn died that horrific way.
I remember those 6 months fondly.
To add I would also say that the show very blantantly had Abraham die in the line up just for shock value as he was suppose to die literally 2 episodes earlier but they gave the iconic arrow in the eye to Denise a side character who nobody really knew or cared for that much.
The ghoulish smile was also much better at showing his depravity
Yup, I also feel like it was less powerful because while tv Glenn was well loved, he wasnt the tv fan fave, Daryl was, so instead of a character everyone loved, it was a character who many loved, but had already been put off by his earlier fake-out death scene.
The punch was gone, those who loved Glenn had already morned him, only to be told he survived in a way that feels soo ridiculous, then have him killed off again for real not soon after.
Also less impactful thanks to the comic readers predictions basically spoiling it for many, they absolutely should have picked a diffrent character to kill off for the show.
I'll never forget reading issue 100 for the first time back in 2012. Was so shocking.
Andrew Lincoln’s acting before during and after the negan introduction was absolutely INCREDIBLE.
Andrew Lincoln is my favorite actor and honestly one of the most underrated actors ever. Dude gives it his all every fucking time. Him screaming “damn you for making me do this to you, this is you not me” when he kills Shane gives me chills every time
Finally, someone that realizes that The Walking Dead is the Rick Grimes story, and that everyone else are just supporting characters.
In my opinion Rick keeping Negan alive in the comics made way more sense than the show. In the comics, Carl shot Shane to save Rick, lost his mom and baby sister, shot Ben cause he saw no one else knew what to do with him, and suffered memory loss when he was shot in the eye. All of that was building up to take Carl into a real dark place and Rick believed he needed to show not just everyone but Carl as well that death and violence isn’t the only answer. Since they decided to make Carl an inconsistent pacifist in the show he decides to go from guns blazing at Sanctuary to specifically kill Negan, to telling Rick there should be peace out of literal nowhere.
While that makes sense, lets face it, it was because he became a fan favorite.
The show has some of the best and worst writing I’ve ever seen it’s so weird. Sometimes the tv show is just peak television, then other times it’s like the script is being written by a barely adept middle schooler and that inconsistency really fucked the show up for good. Even the spin offs have so many problems at times even when they’re good. Damn shame.
Well yeah as the war went on and people started losing their lives, Carl's perspective and views changed. Rick is also an inconsistent character by this standard since at the start of the show he proudly declared that he doesn't kill the living only to later on have the highest kill count out of all the characters in the show.
In the comics it made no sense because Rick had already killed so many saviors both directly and indirectly by leading the battle yet never batted a single eye but the moment he confronted Negan he suddenly gets sentimental by saying "actually revenge bad, murder wrong". People REALLY overrate the comics when comparing it to the show, the comics also had plenty of its own issues.
I’ve always interpreted Abraham’s death as realistic, because sometimes in life people do die suddenly.
i remember his death being one of the most wtf moments in the series lol. especially when he was still talking with the arrow in his eye
Didn't like his death. Felt like a loss for his character
It's always amazing to me how he was still able to talk while the arrow was stuck in his eye socket... I know Denise had his death in the show though.
Completely off topic but when they went to the gym and found Tyreese still alive that shit stuck with me
@@yeet1103me neither man. He had a lot more to give as a character if you ask me. He should have died in the war if anything. Or the whisperer war. Could have kept Morgan alive and had him take the arrow instead of just getting bit by a zombie
30:00 I remember Glenn's death was extremely controversial. It was so damn shocking for anyone reading at the time. Nobody expected it and that is why I think it's one of the most powerful scene in the series.
I love the way the show intro'd Negan, the finale episode were the saviors cut off all the roads and let Rick into a trap was awesome.. you could just feel the tension after every road block.
We really need a 1:1 TV MA animated series of this. Read this monthly for years when it was releasing and I absolutely love it.
The comic is definitely far superior to the show in nearly every way. I just thought the whole commonwealth thing was extremely anticlimactic after everything that had come before.
Great review, Ryan! Glad to see you branching out a bit!
I think the main two things that the show had done better than the comics were the opening arc (everything pre-Hershel's farm) and how a few characters were handled (e.g. Shane, Hershel, mostly Carol, Gabriel).
But yeah, the comic is still far superior, especially if we compare it with the later seasons.
@@youarealwayscorrect they definitely added context in the beginning. I kinda like sad Carol in the comics more. It added a lot of weight to her character…and to the world in general. The show just switched her and Andrea just to be different I guess.
The comics were better paced but I prefer the dialogue and characterization of the show imo. The characters feel much more grounded compared to their comic counter parts.
The dialogue in the comics sometimes like feel like they're from a CW show.
The craziest part to me, is the Governor/Woodbury arc is only like 6-7ish months into the apocalypse within TWD timeline if I’m not mistaken. Like holy shit he really showed what kind of person he was quickly
The fact this hasn’t done numbers amazes me, this is by far the best review of the comics I’ve seen. Great video!
Thank you! 🙏
I think it'd be cool to have animated movies or something to adapt the comic again and do a better job than the show did
Dude yes I'm still holding out for this. They fumbled the show so hard
Imagine Kirkman gets Amazon to greenlight an animated walking dead series that's exactly the same as the comics.
Dude, it can’t be 100% copied, especially the Governor
I’ve seen the entire show but never read the comics, and I never knew that the comics are seemingly a lot more … traumatic? Like the show is horrific ofc but they have so many more moments of hopelessness in the comics than in the show.
But I really liked your interpretation about how the entire story is leading to ricks (and the audiences’) revelation about how people’s death isn’t their “end”. They live on far after, in the things they did and the people they touched. It’s a simple but beautiful sentiment that I feel was lost in the show’s version of the story.
Great video man!
Yeah TWD comics is some of the most fucked up stuff you could read they did not hold back at all lol. The comics make the tv show look like Teletubbies
@@Plutonic_BlueI've read the comics up to the common wealth. The only part about the comics that is more disturbing is the governer/prisoner arc.
Besides that, I think the show is just as if not more disturbing. The terminus/cannibals arc is much more gruesome in the show than in the comics, Rick is far more ruthless in the show than he is in the comics, he straight up murders people in cold blood almost as an indulgence, Negan and the saviours are alot more evil in the show than in the comics, he psychologically torments Rick and mentally broke him, he literally burned a doctor alive for no reason,the saviours straight up slaughter entire communities for no reason etc.
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I think the reason Glenn’s death works so well in the comics but not in the show is the way they portrayed it in live action. It was very slow and heavy, saviors cornering the group since the previous episode. Not to mention they killed off 2 major characters not just one, again it felt like it dragged on and on and it was such heavy content the mind gets numb.
In the comic it was an out of nowhere surprise and it was so quick you couldn’t fully register and by the time it let’s you take a breath it’s all done and there’s no way back. There was a build up to the saviors but the actual attack and introduction happened in one issue. And as someone who got to read this as issues were coming out it was waaay better than seeing it on tv. Specially after the god awful cliffhanger.
Both are good, the shows is supposed to be slow and momentum event that changes the course of the entire story, most battles and event up till them were quick but now you have negan to slow down everything it builds tension and shows ricks slowly breaking down, that's the reason negan wants to break them down and he couldn't just get in there and then back out as quick as possible he knows these people have experienced that so he takes a different approach.
Saying the comics is better because it's quick, and being left over with a cliff hanger I'd say isn't a bad thing, the comics do this all the time
@@nani4249 the build up from season 6 was Very well executed, the first episode of season 7 killed all the momentum and it’s not a coincidence people stopped watching after that
@carlodelavera9735 people quit because there favorite character died, that's it. The momentum was enhanced in s7 e1 with the atmosphere negan had.
@@nani4249 season 7 and 8 are regarded as the worst seasons of the show idk what you’re talking about
@@carlodelavera9735 and s7 s1 was the best episode out the 2 seasons.
I don't know if I'd say it's *miles* better than the show, tho the second half is indeed miles better than the second half of the show, but the first half of the show adapted the comic beautifully. Thanks so much for the review, this is one of my favorite stories ever told and I love when people like you help keep the fandom alive
I agree. I’d say the comic and the show are pretty even until the end. (Tv show fell off around where Rick left the show) what killed it for me was Carl dying but they still could have recovered if Rick was still on the show
@@danielcantrell5325 its crazy to think they ruined the show so bad that carl and rick grimes, arguably the two main characters of the walking dead, left the show. The walking dead without the Grimes family isn't even the walking dead. The only thing walking dead is this whole franchises reputation.
@@ryman1933 exactly man. It’s like bruh, Daryl is NOT the main character. It is not his story. I’ve never seen an adaption flop so hard towards the end. Seasons 1-6 were solid. You could even argue that season 7 and 8a were decent television. But as soon as Carl died it’s like, damn. Everything Rick’s done has been for nothing. Carl was his sole purpose in the comics until Rick died. Carl wanted negan DEAD continuity wise a month in storyline time before he died, then he all of a sudden wants Negan to live after he gets bit? Terrible writing. Season 9 should have been the last season. They should have convinced Andrew Lincoln to finish out strong, wrapped it up because the show died when he left.
@@ryman1933 it also blows my mind how it’s been shoved down in our throat so many times that “the tv show isn’t gonna completely follow the comic” yet they keep literally the most uninteresting characters alive and kill off characters we could have seen live on past there comic lifespan to keep things interesting for comic readers. Glenn and Abraham in all out war would have been a great twist for me personally. But nope. Let’s kill off those two, and have Gabriel and Tara get more screen time. Make it make sense 🤣 I’d even argue the show would have been salvageable with those two remaining as additional cast members for a few more seasons
@@danielcantrell5325 it really is depressing how badly they ruined it, could've been one of the greatest tv series of all time had they stuck to the comic storyline. Show should have been like 5-6 seasons at best. Any show that goes longer than that is bound to decline at some point. They just started making bad decision after bad decision, losing good characters, replacing them with boring ones, filler episodes, bad writing, the list goes on and on.
I wholeheartedly agree in the fact that pushing non-comic characters too hard ruined the core of the show & its ties to source material. Daryl was the biggest example of that.
He became their cash cow & stole arcs & scenes from TONS of comic characters & it ruined their arcs as a result.
I also believe keeping Carol & killing Sophia was a MASSIVE mistake.
I disagree characters like Daryl and carol where very good early on, later on there were issues but it wasn’t really the faults of the characters and more of just the show in general, Daryl takes a bunch of Rick stuff after Andrew Lincoln left. That’s not because they wanted Daryl to be Rick but because they didn’t have Rick and needed Daryl to be Rick
sophia was barely a character in the comics, she was just carl's wife, that's literally it. carol is the opposite of that
theres more comics, the michonne special, governer special, turesse special, morgan special, also heres negan and negan lives
I recommend that you check out the manga “Deuteronomy”. It’s not a action story but I think you’d like it. It’s pretty dark tho 🐜👢
Sad how the worst representation of something is usually the most mainstream/popular. The comics and books are leagues better than the show could ever dream of being. I will always reread the comic every few years just to relive it, but I could never watch the TV show again knowing how bad they ruined it.
Your so wrong! Even if the Comic is better which is down to personal interpretation the TV show is nowhere near as bad as your saying lmao. The first seasons are some of the best television ever. Yes it dropped significantly from season 7 to 9 and picked back up for 10 and 11, with season 11 being more than a solid. From the sounds of this comment your just blinded by anger.
Just thought, Imagine thinking the TV show is the worst representation when you have games like TWD Survival Instinct and TWD Destinies.
@@skendae9152yeah I love the comics too and they're more consistent than the show as far as tone but the show is still ironic and I watch it every few years, and it's also what got me into the comics
YOO ive been a long time viewer of your berserk content and the walking dead is my favorite comic ty ryan
This was a great review of the series. Had a stressful day and wanted to unwind with some Walking Dead content and came across this video. Just subscribed. Keep up the good work
i mean some of the stuff you were saying the governor did that was bad he also did in the tv show. like the zombie heads in fish tanks, the fights with the zombies, and feeding his zombie daughter body parts. he didn't torture michonne or cut ricks hand off but he still did the other stuff
There are two spin off comics about Negan one called "Here's Negan" about his backstory and "Negan Lives" which is about his life post issue 174.
I really liked the directions the comic went for, and it feels more streamlined.
The TV show somehow makes you spend more time watching it, by stretching the plots a lot, and it doesn't really does the deep dive into the conflicts and antagonists. It is actually more focused on shock value than substance.
Another TWD media I would recommend are the Telltale games. There are 4 main games (called Seasons), 1 DLC (not indispensable, but it's a good addition), and two Michonne games I believe (Honestly, unless very interested in her character, you can skip these).
The games focus on another great character's story. Without spoiling, I would say it follows faithfully the themes and message of the comics (btw, the games are canon to the comic universe).
Dude I fully read the series for the first time last summer. You hit the nail on the head on just about every point in this video! I truly love this series. Also I am a fan of the show because I watched it first and grew up watching it but I know not everyone enjoys it as much as me haha. If you want more Negan, there is a prequel comic titled Here's Negan you can check out!
This by miles the best review of the comics i've ever seen. amazing job dude. i enjoyed this very much
Thank you!
Negan and Maggie getting it on absolutely broke the character of Maggie for me. It's so ridiculous, it feels like an insult to Glenn and character assassination of Maggie.
also the "coming of age" story with carl did happen in the show. season 4 episode 9
I feel like negan deserved a redemption ark because if he had killed a bunch of ricks people,I i feel like rick would kill more than just one person
The comic story is neat, realistic and heartfelt.
The show has just become a cash cow with little substance.
it actually depresses me to think of how badly they ruined the show, it could have been one of the best TV series of all time if they stuck to the script and didnt make so many unneeded changes
You should rewatch the show because I dropped it too for years and then randomly started to watch it again years later and man I didn’t regret it. The whispers arc and after that until the end was great
Honestly i like season 1 and 2 of telltales walking dead more than the comic itself. Always wanted Clem to appear in literally anything else.
There are 2 books about Clem. Shes still out there
@olcountry8432 we don't talk about those God forsaken books
i am nut sore if anybody has said this, but i think that carl in the end when hes grown up, he visits that empty house where Negan lived and nobody was there, pressumably dead
Top tier comic. Carl is my fav 😊 I could be wrong maybe it was to much to talk about but didn't rick go back and Laurie was turned eating the baby. I could be tripping
I loved the change with Hershel in the show & also keeping Judith (especially since we lost Sophia & Carl)
Just wanna say I'm also delving into graphic novels since I've started reading manga, are there other graphic novels your checking out or interested in? I've recently started reading Usagi Yojimbo lovin' it and Walking dead has caught my attention.
Losing out on the Maggie & Carl dynamic in the show beyond the war, really bummed me out
Great video ryan. Ive only ever seen the show. This was cool to watch and i plan on reading it
I get why they wrote Maggie forgiving Daryl in the show, it plays well on tv, but realistically, I get her in the moment anger towards Rick in the lineup & I really love the portrayal of chaos that follows Glenn’s death between Rick, Maggie, Carl & Sophia!
lori and judiths death in the comic floored me man like damn
I love both the show and comic and theyre both amazing for differung reason and im happy that the nee spin off is being done with some passion that was lost during s7-11
49:40 I always thought it if Rick sent him off, not forgiving him and still hating him but not wanting to punish him anymore (like he’s finished his sentence) and Maggie asks if Negans dead and Rick sort of fudges the truth and says something like, “he’s gone,” which is technically true but not the right message. I don’t know, someone tell me what you think.
I imagine seeing Negan & Maggie on a show together is confusing if you stopped at the end of S7…they really do a good job building up that dynamic after the whisperer arc imo in the show…I highly recommend pushing through because S9 thru the end wasn’t nearly as hard to watch as S8
I think negan staying alive is more symbolic like he represented the brutality of the new world and when maggie let him live it was sort of a way that it didnt have to be that way he changed so maybe just maybe the world could too
I understand the hate/dislike towards the later seasons of the show, but I personally never felt demotivated or upset with the show besides the killing of Glenn and Carl. I've always loved the show, and never felt any dislike toward the show.
The fact the show has it up in the air & doesnt directly say that alpha lets the whisperers rape Lydia on some primal shit hurt the reasoning for Henry wanting to defend her in the show
I like the design for the Governor in the show better but the comic version is way more evil and I like that more.
I been wondering the same thing. Now if what Beale said was to be true. I think he mentioned it’s mutating and the walkers carry other disease’s too. Maybe the reunion end game will be the super walkers start coming and the true villain will the massive herds. With the true final ending being the dead vs the living? Plus with all these time jumps. They’ll be 10 to 20 years ahead of us in real time.( it’s a cheap way to keep the fan favorite characters without them getting to old) he really needs to stop the time jumping though. That’s one aspect they really messed up with. It was ok to get up to the year we are in but that’s it.
I’ve read these seven years ago and it was a crazy ride
The comics feel like the show's HBO version
Leaving this comment here so I can refer back to the video when my volume 1 comes in 👍
Love u Ryan my one of my favourite manga tubers ur the best ❤
Ryan Uploaded this so fast I so I clicked fast.
imo the comic is way better than the show
I really hope after the Invincible series, they can reboot TWD into an animated series.
It can work *SO* well, and fix some issues the show has had.
Excellent video!
What do you think is the comics are better or the tv show
49:00 losing everyone and everything and still being alive is his punishment, he once had it all and now everyone hates him and for a guy like negan thats the worst punishment there is
Tyrese was one of my favorites
Me reading and seeing the panel of glenns death at 13 or 12 is traumatizing and changed me
Great Job!!!
I would love to see more western comics here
if anyone wants more twd reviews id recommend krotos mystery shack
sad the ending was so rushed
Still really good though
Wasn't a big fan of the final arc, but I loved the epilogue and how everything concluded. Miles better than the show's "ending" (or lack thereof).
I do appreciate that when Kirkman wrote his first bad arch he had the realization he needs to end it
It wasn’t
the day they killed carl is when i knew it was over… i managed to make it through season 9 but after that i gave up… the days of carl eating pudding and bobs tainted meat are long gone
Ill never get over how they massacred The Governor and the entire Comic Prison Arc in the show
Wdym the prison arc and the governor were well done with the show
@ 23:18. NOT “some fucker named Jesus” 😅! I will have you know, his name is Gay Jesus and he is a good guy at punchin and jump kickin!
man all out war was scary as helll
I enjoyed this 👍🏿
It is supreme😊
Miss rick bite guy and save carl
Don't much care for the Manga stuff but keep the horror content coming. This and your revisited are great content!
very good video
Damn i really am the only one lmao lots of peeps i talk to perfer the comic but me knowing everything that happens in the comic an seen the whole show i love the show way more. Imo the show did way better then the comics an losing carl in the show his story ended there was nowhere for him to go so i was kewl with his passing just not how he died. But yea in my eyes ima love the show way more then the conic idky i just dk
There are definitely some aspects of the comics that were written better than the show, but I think overall I like the show more, because it doesn’t lean as heavily into the gratuitous violence porn that Kirkman gets off on so much. By compendium three I was basically just rolling my eyes every time the newest “nasty thing” happened.
The ending was rushed and kinda bad, but I didnt mid because the last few years of the comic were pretty mediocre, the social commentary had become to obvious, and the story was trying to repeat All Out War over and over again, and it didnt work...so pulling off the plug was acceptable, imo.
About your fears for Negan's redemption...the TV show pretty much did exactly that, no surprises, I guess.
The comic ended in Jul 3, 2019...and you're just getting to this now??
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this doesnt feel like a review. just a recap of the whole story
Rick deserved a better death, actually he should've lived until he was old and saw carl get married and have his grandson.
Would've been a happy ending but I think the message is that happy endings dont always come true, he may not have lived to see it but he did live long enough to make sure Carl lived a long happy life. In the end that's all Rick really wanted to accomplish.
i hate this stupid ass drama in the prison between Carol-Michonne-Tyreese and Andrea-Dale-Tyreese so much. i'm really glad tv series deleted this shit, plus Glenn and Maggie fucking in every issue. this was so random and annoying.
Personally found the last arc to be not just the worst of the series, but just bad in general. Also Rick turning into zombie land Jesus really made my eyes roll
Meh we just don’t see it the same on a lot and tbh ur opinion on Rick x Michonne is giving racist not saying you are but
Lol… I don’t care what anybody says… killing off Carl was one of the smartest things the tv version did, Chandler was awful his last couple seasons
I feel like the whole show kind of fell off after the Negan lineup. The fact they not only didn’t change the original death from the comic book, but added one (Abraham, who in comics died earlier) was just dog ass for a “surprise”.
i do agree that chandler just couldn’t have been the Carl everyone wanted in seasons 9-11, but not having a Carl at all in the story really messed up the future of the show. It also messed up some character storylines.
Starting the video off by talking shit on the show. Immediately made me not watch your video.
The show is pretty dog shit. Some good seasons and episodes here and there and the casting is great but it's really nothing special
Why? It's like he says, the show steadily gets worse after the saviours arc.
Oh no 😭
Is everyone okay?? This guy didn't watch the video!
If you need me I'll be with my wife getting comforted. It's been a traumatic day.
😂😂