Yeah he did a good job saving Ben from Lilly, I'd still accept Lilly in my group again if we can in season 3, Doug was a good guy, Carley was more helpful when it comes to guns, but in arguments like this one, Doug was very helpful, he was like Luke, trying to fix things, but he wasn't good in guns, It's sad that they both had to die, but Doug's death was better
I know right? Well except me because I choose Doug because he told me I was a ''Great guy'' but not just he said that, he's logical and resourceful, but of course I will choose Carley.
Doug is better at stealth distraction, a gun can cause loud noise and massive distraction, but a laser pointer can cause a blinding distraction and no noise. Laser pointers are better.
Kenny had a reason though. They were trapped in a meat locker, no weapons, no way out, no medicine, and Larry was having a heart attack that was even worse than the first since he collapsed completely and was unconscious. That kind of heart attack is one of the most severe and its through sheer luck a person's heart gets restarted after an attack like that, especially without the aid of a defibrillator. A person's chances of their heart being restarted drops every second. The only thing I would have done differently was trying to restart his heart for four minutes with Kenny at the ready should that time pass without successfully reviving him. The longest a person survived with their heart stopped was four minutes, no one was ever successfully revived after four minutes, even with the help of a defibrillator. Its one of the things that sucked with this game was it had a bad tendency on occasion of making you choose between two extremes and never giving you a more moderate choice that makes much more sense than the two extreme options. Lets also not forget though that Larry is no better than Kenny considering that one of the things he proposed back at the pharmacy was ironically smashing Duck's head in. He met the very fate he tried to condemn Duck to. Lastly Lilly had no reason to do what she did. Instead of calming down and coming to a decision with the entire group at a later date she chose to just kill Ben/Carley on a whim. There was no pressure, no immediate danger, nothing.
+Spencer Bowden Jane instigated that whole fight by exploiting the one thing Kenny cared about most and basically the only thing left he had to care about, the only thing driving him to even keep on living. Clementine and AJ. She started it and then escalated it by pulling a knife on Kenny and cutting his chest with a knife, taking it to that next level. She wanted Kenny out of the picture but knew Clementine would never go along with that, so she tried to manipulate the situation to make Kenny look like a bad guy, giving her an excuse to off him without angering Clementine for doing so. That was her plan anyway. She could have stopped that fight at any time by telling the truth, but she wanted to kill him and AJ was the tool she used to try and get the excuse to do so without looking like she was the instigator of that fight to Clementine. Depending on the player's choices, things might not pan out the way she hoped it would. She is a selfish person that is stone cold and not afraid of doing whats necessary to survive, to get her way, or to get what she wants, no matter how morally questionable or wrong the method may be. She is skilled at manipulation and knows when its best to use that instead of a more obvious and direct approach. She was selfish all the way to the end, if you choose her she again acts selfishly one final time by killing herself because of a pregnancy, leaving Clementine to fend for herself. At least Kenny cared about Clementine and AJ so much that he made himself living bait to ensure their survival after the car crash. She clearly had a more pleasant time during her time with Kenny than she did with Jane. The three of them basically were a family.
Ghoffman91 dude a lot of this is twisted. Yes Jane did instigate that whole situation but she did not intend to kill him. Jane did give Kenny multiple chances to back down from that fight and every time she slide cut him it was out of self defense and in a non vital area. Every time Jane tried to stop the fight Kenny just used it as a chance to attack. And given how she killed Vitali she knows how to use that knife to kill. Also have we forgotten she had Arvos gun. She could have shot him at any point but chose not to use it. And biggest factor Aj wasn’t dead. If Kenny had taken any time to mourn or think things through or even attempt to look for the body he would have found out. But no Kenny doesn’t act because he cares about anyone every action he has taken has been to channel his frustrations on losing Katjaa and duck. And every time he does this someone else has to pay the price. How Lilly and Kenny behaved are no different from each other. Lilly lost a loved one got depressed and went off the rails and shot an innocent survivor. Kenny lost loved ones and used them as an excuse to use anything near him as an emotional punching bag and pretty much was the whole reason Jane instigated that situation. So in a wayJane was not entirely at fault. Kenny had a pretty good hand in the events leading up to the fight too.
I loved Doug. I know a lot of people love Carley because she adds more drama and is more I involved but they little things Doug does is adorable and he is extremely smart anf nerdy. Not that I have anything against Carley I just feel like Doug should have had more involvement and character build up so more people would like him. Right after this part happens and they get to the train I bet Doug would have known everything about the train and it wouldn't have been hard to start it up. Also I feel like Doug cared for Clem when Lee wasn't around. I just feel like Doug would have taken really good care of Clem just ad much as Lee did.
Yeah, I watched a lot of people on CZcams play before I got the game myself, and choosing between Doug and Carley was one of the most difficult decisions for me. In the end, I just chose Doug knowing that I could play again and save Carley, so ultimately it didn't matter in a way, but it still sucks to watch either of them die.
My thoughts too. If I had played the game, I would've chosen Doug. Even though Carley is good with a gun, Doug is intelligent and he knows random facts which could help them plan things out better. He would've been a better character to have and actually stay for a while.
Tatsudoshi, Spazzy and Corn (three let's players who use to give commentaries together) made what I consider to be the greatest let's play of Tell Tale's The Walking Dead season 1 ever done. Endlessly hilarious and insightful. And they picked Doug over Carley. Sadly, said let's play no longer exists, which is a major tragedy.
so if u save Doug back at the Drug store, she(Lily) meant to aim at Ben but Doug saved him, if u save Carley, Lily will shoot her for standing up to Ben. Ben is stupid, back in the RV he said "maybe we should vote." then when Lily gets on his case he says the votes arent nessisary.
This was one of those scenes that really irritated me. No matter what your choices, all that changed was a tiny bit of dialogue. There was no talking Lily down, no convincing her to postpone for later, no convincing Ben to confess, and no way to bring Lily with you afterwards since she runs away even if you let her back in the RV. You could call it gritty realism, but it makes your choices entirely pointless. It was a good story, and a gripping plot, but it wasn't much of a game.
Viktoria Magrey No ever knows that they can and can't change in what they do because they never get a second chance to re-do something other than in shit like video games, which is all scripted.
Well that's telltale for ya; your choices never really mattered in the end. Sure, they've been making more and more progressive options for players, but in the end it all matters down to one overall ending. Plus if you make a choice between two people, you KNOW they would both die eventually no matter who you picked. However just because of the shitty choice options, it's one hell of a story and plot--something that I always admire about the games. It's emotional even when you know you have no real control over everything. Regardless though I would only play the games if I hear really good ratings about it, or I would just see a playthrough.
It's true that its realistic, and like I said the story is good, but the fact that all your decisions are pointless really takes away from the replay value. When I beat the game after picking Carly and think "Oh, Lily hates her." then I go back and pick Doug, it really irritates me that the death scene happens in the same way at the same time. There's no skill involved. You have several buttons, and they all do the same thing.
Watching this scene again, I just love Lily's reaction to Doug's death, just pure shock and horror followed by that slow head shake as she's probably thinking ' What have I done ?'. I know a lot of people hate her for Carley's death, but I think Doug's hits hard too for different reason. Lily didn't hold any hate for Doug like she may have had for Carly, she genuinely looked remorseful for his death.
In my opinion, this scene is more fucked mainly because she didn't need Carley roasting her to pull out the gun, she pulled out the gun here unprovoked, this ultimately makes this woman a scary ass character since she can just mentally snap regardless
I think Clem likes Doug better than Carly, because when Doug dies, she was scared and screamed no, and when he died by getting shot, she was a little bit off the rv like she was coming to him. That’s one of the reason why I would save Doug. Edit: I also forgot when Lee was about to make a choice of who to save. Clem was also looking at Doug.
Ben101 Carley takes a life too in episode 3 as well. She covers one of the sides during the Motel raid. So that's hardly a difference. Doug probably wouldn't even have helped that much after episode 3 though while Carley still has a good shot. It's like choosing between Andrea or Eugene. One of them has a really good shot while the other is just really smart.
Doug actually went out like a hero. He even got that pause of mourning. Carleys was just gut-wrenching. Carley likes you? Check. "Carley will remember that"? Check. Popped out of nowhere? Bingo. No pause, just instant disarmament by lee.
SPOILER ALERT: If I think about it, BEN is the whole reason why 5 lives went to shit. If it wasn't for BEN, Lily wouldn't have gotten paranoid about the whole thievery incident at the motor inn which was caused by BEN making a deal with the Bandits that lured in walkers which bit Duck! Carley/Doug wouldn't have been killed because Lily wouldn't have been overly angry in the first place for BEN taking the medicine! With Duck dying from the bite due to the zombies lured in from the bandits that BEN made deals with, Katjaa his mother commits suicide! Lily gets left behind because she murders an innocent, yet this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for BEN!!!! THERE SHOULD'VE BEEN A "THROW BEN OF THE TRAIN" OPTION WHEN HE ADMITTED!!!!
Except one of the reason's Lily got that way is because her father was killed right in front of her eyes. Furthermore, it's actually up for speculation if Ben either delayed the inevitable or made things worse.
Amnesian Bro The duck part I can't really put it on Ben. Those bandits would have most likely invaded regardless if Ben didn't steal the supplies and gave them it. Lilly chose to act like a dictator and got herself kicked out.
If Ben didn't make a deal with the bandits, EVERYBODY in the group would have died right at the start of episode 3, cuz Bandits would have attacked when the group wasn't even prepared. So yes, Ben did save everyone who survived
Lily's face explains how everyone feels when they get a character killed. Examples: "oh shit, i commited a whoopsie" " oopsie poopsie, i did a whoopsie " " oh fuck " " shit " "oh no oh darn oh fuck oh diddly darn dee."
When doug gets to heaven... Carley: Oh hey Doug. How'd you die? Doug: Well bandits raided the Motel we went to and then we had to escape with the RV. Lily thought it was Ben, so we began arguing. Kenny hit a walker so we all got outside and argued more. Then, as Kenny removed and killed the walker.. Lily pointed the gun at Ben and I was like "oh shit. NO!" so I grabbed his arm and pulled him out of the way, throwing him and getting myself shot in the head. Carley: I've been watching and I've seen that he is indeed, a screw up. Why'd you save him? Care for him? Doug: Well no, but actually yes.
(Post season 1) Doug & Carley: Hello Lee Lee: I saved Clem but I got bit in the process Doug: Sorry Man,shame we couldn't help you Carly: Ben is doing a lot better Ben: Look If I knew what would have happened I would have never taken the deal with the bandits. Lee Doug Carley: We can't change it now, might as well accept are situation Lee: I now got to keep an eye on Clementine I still have to talk to her in death.
@grandinquisitor8335 Kenny: ;) Did someone miss me? Kat: Kenny what happened to your eye? Kenny: some bastard injured me. Lee: Great to see you again Ken. Carley and Doug: Where's Clementine? Kenny: She's alive. Lee: :) Ben: Hey Kenny. Kenny: What's this shithead doing here?
Well i don't agree with Cutu Pass on one Point ( the " No one Likes Kenny Thing " ) because that is clearly Not true but this time i have to agree with Cutu Pass. I think Lilly was the best FEMALE character of the whole series.... She is bossy , she is tough, she had some Leader skills , she is complex... I Liked also Christa but i only Started to like her in S2 when Omid died... She was depressive and human... I Love this kind of human characters.
Doug clearly tugs at Ben's arm so Ben would not get shot by Lilly. I'm still upset that Doug died, he was honestly the sweetest character. Rest in peace, Doug. You did well.
What I like about this game is that they kill off most of the characters that have a lot of potential to kind of change and the first time they do act different that's when they die, which is great because it shows not all the loved characters will survive, but some might go on farther than others do to their role, added effects/drama, or maybe as a conflict
what really would've been interesting is what if the first person you saved went on to raise clementine for you, imagine doug or carly taking care of clem, doug using noise and devices to take out hoards or run away while carly, thought clem to shoot and use different guns.
So many people hate Ben. He's a coward, I can agree. He is my favorite character, though. He didn't want to get killed, and he didn't. But at a price. He did try to protect the group by giving the bandits supplies, and he tried to do his best. I wish there was a rare chance that he could stay alive... He was the most well written character. He showed what most of us would become in a situation like this.
i think is different, kenny didnt kill larry just because he was angry, larry was an inminnent threat to them, lily killed carly for call her "scary little girl"
Andrey Chavarría Who is the different, Lilly kill Carly/Doug because she think one is a traitor, and she don't want more of them death or more traitors on the group
Paula Spark except Lilly didn't actually KNOW much of anything. She knew that someone took the chems, but she had no idea who. She pulled the trigger based on who she thought MIGHT have done it. She was pissed and wanted someone to pay for it, and she really didn't care who it was. And as for Kenny, I wouldn't consider that the same thing, Larry wasn't even breathing when he "killed" him.
Unpopular opinion: Lilly is one of my favorite characters in the entire series I was so glad to see her come back on the final season but I wish there was a redemption story arc for her :/
The only thing I hate about this game is the fate of certain characters like Ben, Doug and Carley if you save them they just die anyways just making our previous choice completely useless if you save someone you have to choose whether the person dies not the game itself
Don't remember Doug since it's been 6 years and he was finally referenced again in the latest season/episode. Fucking Kenny should've just listened and played along with Lilly's stupid vote :P
i’ve always liked doug more than carley tbh. even when i was younger and seeing this when i was younger i didn’t really care now than i’m older i actually shed a tear when my homie doug died like that he was much better than carley. who agrees?
Just out of curiosity, if you save Doug do you no longer have the option to tell the group that Lee was on his way to prison? I know with Carly one of her main points was encouraging Lee to tell people about his past. It's just I've never seen that option with Doug, is it even possible?
Sadly no. Honestly I feel like Telltale should've given more incentive to keeping Doug because Carley gets more screentime for you to get attached to her in Episode 1 and like you mentioned, you can only tell people about your past if you save Carley
Bemi Atto ooooh then tbh what’s the point of Doug? He has no striking characteristics, just like you said if they gave more incentive to keep Doug like making him a closer friend to Lee or exploring more on his intelligence
In this scenario after she kills Doug instead of Carley Lilly had the nerve to mention Lee's past when he killed the senator. Although Kenny didn't care and he actually saw Lilly shoot Carley in cold blood.
+JohnRenziVlogs Or you could play it smart and tell him about your past when you get the chance to at the motel. I did and he was cool with it then and now.
I prefer saving Carley because we get to tell people like Kenny and Clementine about Lee's past. One thing I hate is that Lilly tried to betray Lee by exposing his past if we choose abandon her on the side of the road but failed if we saved Carley. If we choose Doug, we can't get to tell people about Lee's past because Doug never knew what Lee did in the past and Kenny seems pissed at Lee after Lilly "exposed" him since we don't have that option to tell about Lee's past.
What I find ironic is people keep riding Lily for her decisions. Rationing food, taking St.John's food to go, and believing Ben was the double agent. She made decisions that in time turns out to be right.... Doesn't justify killing someone the way she did...but you have to understand she was going through a SERIOUS grieving situation at the time, so she acted on impulse and made a horrible mistake. Effing A Lily, why did you have to freaking ruin everything!
Lee's killing was a killing of honor, defending his own manly virtue and the womanly virtue of his wife. Lee never killed someone who was a friggin' HERO like Doug. A man who was such a saint that he'd put his life on the line, even sacrifice it, for an ignorant little punk he barely knew.
This is scene is way more powerful with Carley because she keeps adding fire to the argument, + Kenny won't get surprised with you being a murderer if you get Carley because she gives you the option to tell him
Eyeless Jack cuz they fuck us over for example HE FUCKING DEALED WITH THE BANDITS AND GOT KENNYS FAMILY KILLED also Sarah's just a whiny bitch who is a serious problem to the group
I'm a little taken aback by anyone who would mourn the loss of the Doug character. The man was a complete blank slate. The writers made a sad attempt to try to make him unique by other character making reference to him being a nerd, but he said and did almost nothing, and when he did, the voice actor sounded like he was sleepwalking.
1rebelboy In real life, I might be. But since this is a story and Doug barely said anything at all, I didn't feel his loss in the same way as Carley. It's clear the writers didn't have any ideas for Doug beyond "he's a nerd."
WastedPo Agreed they could've don better with him but hewas good. He made the alarm system, saving Lee with a laser pen was brilliant and said more about his character than dialogue could
I really wish there was some way to save these two in episode one and in episode three I wish something like clem gives carney her clip and Lee goes to save Doug and in episode three lee pushes lily out of the way and carley/doug lives
Doug: Dies saving Ben
Carley: Dies roasting Lilly
ikr
Yeah that really sad
At Carley's part,it's kinda funny
@@handler0075 yeah I love how she roasts Lilly
XD
The worst part of this is that Lilly was 100% correct about Ben
I mean, Doug sacrificed himself for nothing
@@unpibecualquieraconunavida2775 No, he sacrificed himself for Ben, because Doug was a good person.
@@unpibecualquieraconunavida2775Doug sacrifices himself for nothing if Lee leaves Ben in episode 4.
@@DimOchka_noblewell that’s the player’s choice
TBF Ben is just a kid
Doug died a hero, even if Ben was a coward.
Yeah he did a good job saving Ben from Lilly, I'd still accept Lilly in my group again if we can in season 3, Doug was a good guy, Carley was more helpful when it comes to guns, but in arguments like this one, Doug was very helpful, he was like Luke, trying to fix things, but he wasn't good in guns, It's sad that they both had to die, but Doug's death was better
Annayaamouz Luke's death was way sadder. RIP Luke.
Kyle Majerczyk ikr
Bill Bill Luke should've lived! He was the best character in Season 2!
+Kyle Majerczyk same here
ben: "maybe we should have a vote?"
also ben: "we don't need all these votes!"
Evan W *SPEECH 100*
Are you that guy who does the "manly" reviews on steam?
When did he say that??
He doesnt say this...
IKR!
Nobody knows this scene because everyone saved carley
I know right? Well except me because I choose Doug because he told me I was a ''Great guy'' but not just he said that, he's logical and resourceful, but of course I will choose Carley.
exactly
It says more ppl saved Doug
cyka blyat nop
Can you blame me
When lee said, DROP IT! He sounded like a straight badass I wish his voice stayed like that.
IKR
Lol finally I find this comment xD
jack jenness lee always badass
StylishHellboy i just liked it when he pinned Lilly against the RV 😂😂😂
MY gOD
To anyone who saved Carley:
Guns before bros
Berzerk Llama killed the joke like lilly killed Doug/Carly.
You can't kill what never lived.
Anyone can get a gun, But there aren't many smart people like Doug out there
This thread is just _baaad_
That is what i was thinking. She carries a gun? I'm with her.
Doug saves you with a LASER POINTER..Carley saves you with a gun..Doug knows how to do things with style
Doug is better at stealth distraction, a gun can cause loud noise and massive distraction, but a laser pointer can cause a blinding distraction and no noise. Laser pointers are better.
Carley saved us twice by the time we had to choose and Doug didn’t so I just chose Carley lol
@@CrossEmJT prefer carley anyway. Her and lee's love for each other seemed so fitting
Tbh, it would’ve been better if we could save em both- and just let Larry die instead.
@@lukr1356 because ppl were simping or that she was good with guns
Lilly was relatively likeable, until she cracked and murdered her own group member
bradhuygens says that about Lilly but then Kenny did it too.
Kenny had a reason though.
They were trapped in a meat locker, no weapons, no way out, no medicine, and Larry was having a heart attack that was even worse than the first since he collapsed completely and was unconscious. That kind of heart attack is one of the most severe and its through sheer luck a person's heart gets restarted after an attack like that, especially without the aid of a defibrillator.
A person's chances of their heart being restarted drops every second.
The only thing I would have done differently was trying to restart his heart for four minutes with Kenny at the ready should that time pass without successfully reviving him. The longest a person survived with their heart stopped was four minutes, no one was ever successfully revived after four minutes, even with the help of a defibrillator.
Its one of the things that sucked with this game was it had a bad tendency on occasion of making you choose between two extremes and never giving you a more moderate choice that makes much more sense than the two extreme options.
Lets also not forget though that Larry is no better than Kenny considering that one of the things he proposed back at the pharmacy was ironically smashing Duck's head in. He met the very fate he tried to condemn Duck to.
Lastly Lilly had no reason to do what she did. Instead of calming down and coming to a decision with the entire group at a later date she chose to just kill Ben/Carley on a whim. There was no pressure, no immediate danger, nothing.
Ghoffman91 I’m not ralking about killing Larry I’m talking about killing Jane.
+Spencer Bowden Jane instigated that whole fight by exploiting the one thing Kenny cared about most and basically the only thing left he had to care about, the only thing driving him to even keep on living. Clementine and AJ. She started it and then escalated it by pulling a knife on Kenny and cutting his chest with a knife, taking it to that next level.
She wanted Kenny out of the picture but knew Clementine would never go along with that, so she tried to manipulate the situation to make Kenny look like a bad guy, giving her an excuse to off him without angering Clementine for doing so. That was her plan anyway.
She could have stopped that fight at any time by telling the truth, but she wanted to kill him and AJ was the tool she used to try and get the excuse to do so without looking like she was the instigator of that fight to Clementine. Depending on the player's choices, things might not pan out the way she hoped it would.
She is a selfish person that is stone cold and not afraid of doing whats necessary to survive, to get her way, or to get what she wants, no matter how morally questionable or wrong the method may be. She is skilled at manipulation and knows when its best to use that instead of a more obvious and direct approach. She was selfish all the way to the end, if you choose her she again acts selfishly one final time by killing herself because of a pregnancy, leaving Clementine to fend for herself.
At least Kenny cared about Clementine and AJ so much that he made himself living bait to ensure their survival after the car crash. She clearly had a more pleasant time during her time with Kenny than she did with Jane. The three of them basically were a family.
Ghoffman91 dude a lot of this is twisted.
Yes Jane did instigate that whole situation but she did not intend to kill him.
Jane did give Kenny multiple chances to back down from that fight and every time she slide cut him it was out of self defense and in a non vital area.
Every time Jane tried to stop the fight Kenny just used it as a chance to attack.
And given how she killed Vitali she knows how to use that knife to kill.
Also have we forgotten she had Arvos gun. She could have shot him at any point but chose not to use it.
And biggest factor Aj wasn’t dead.
If Kenny had taken any time to mourn or think things through or even attempt to look for the body he would have found out.
But no Kenny doesn’t act because he cares about anyone every action he has taken has been to channel his frustrations on losing Katjaa and duck.
And every time he does this someone else has to pay the price.
How Lilly and Kenny behaved are no different from each other.
Lilly lost a loved one got depressed and went off the rails and shot an innocent survivor.
Kenny lost loved ones and used them as an excuse to use anything near him as an emotional punching bag and pretty much was the whole reason Jane instigated that situation.
So in a wayJane was not entirely at fault.
Kenny had a pretty good hand in the events leading up to the fight too.
Doug is a life saver
you're right
lit boy the lit boy Carley is best
He just save a life who is going to die anyway. Rip
@@asefbodlox1859 everyone dies
@@AnoiceAsylum I guess so but why die earlier than later
And she would've gotten him too, if it weren't for that meddling kid.
waterdog 😂
waterdog clema clema tine
waterdog is that a reference you just made?
Roice 8888 Scooby doo
Gage Niedert Ah That Good ol Cartoon show
Ben looks like shaggy
Shaggy is better than Ben though... #Zoinksforlife
And sounds like him
ben looks like ben from my school
yes lmaoooo
And pewds
When Lee quoted "DROP IT", It sounded like Batman.
Just_ NeRd_ lol
I loved Doug. I know a lot of people love Carley because she adds more drama and is more I involved but they little things Doug does is adorable and he is extremely smart anf nerdy. Not that I have anything against Carley I just feel like Doug should have had more involvement and character build up so more people would like him. Right after this part happens and they get to the train I bet Doug would have known everything about the train and it wouldn't have been hard to start it up. Also I feel like Doug cared for Clem when Lee wasn't around. I just feel like Doug would have taken really good care of Clem just ad much as Lee did.
Yeah, I watched a lot of people on CZcams play before I got the game myself, and choosing between Doug and Carley was one of the most difficult decisions for me. In the end, I just chose Doug knowing that I could play again and save Carley, so ultimately it didn't matter in a way, but it still sucks to watch either of them die.
My thoughts too. If I had played the game, I would've chosen Doug. Even though Carley is good with a gun, Doug is intelligent and he knows random facts which could help them plan things out better. He would've been a better character to have and actually stay for a while.
Besides, I feel like most people chose Carley just cause they thought they would get some.
Tatsudoshi, Spazzy and Corn (three let's players who use to give commentaries together) made what I consider to be the greatest let's play of Tell Tale's The Walking Dead season 1 ever done. Endlessly hilarious and insightful. And they picked Doug over Carley. Sadly, said let's play no longer exists, which is a major tragedy.
I love doug soo much. his and carleys endings are both shitty.
so if u save Doug back at the Drug store, she(Lily) meant to aim at Ben but Doug saved him, if u save Carley, Lily will shoot her for standing up to Ben. Ben is stupid, back in the RV he said "maybe we should vote." then when Lily gets on his case he says the votes arent nessisary.
Aaliyah Holt SPOILER
Apay Gami THIS IS 2 DAMN YEARS AGO
lmao
raxahax you got my brothers profile pic on Xbox XD
Remember Ben is just 14 or 15 he is one of the youngest so he is bad at these types of situations
This was one of those scenes that really irritated me. No matter what your choices, all that changed was a tiny bit of dialogue. There was no talking Lily down, no convincing her to postpone for later, no convincing Ben to confess, and no way to bring Lily with you afterwards since she runs away even if you let her back in the RV. You could call it gritty realism, but it makes your choices entirely pointless.
It was a good story, and a gripping plot, but it wasn't much of a game.
Viktoria Magrey No ever knows that they can and can't change in what they do because they never get a second chance to re-do something other than in shit like video games, which is all scripted.
Well that's telltale for ya; your choices never really mattered in the end. Sure, they've been making more and more progressive options for players, but in the end it all matters down to one overall ending. Plus if you make a choice between two people, you KNOW they would both die eventually no matter who you picked. However just because of the shitty choice options, it's one hell of a story and plot--something that I always admire about the games. It's emotional even when you know you have no real control over everything.
Regardless though I would only play the games if I hear really good ratings about it, or I would just see a playthrough.
gosh does it even fucking mater no mater wat u side with Kenny he is the only one that lives through it all lol
Jonathan Rhodes sometimes in real life ur decisions are pointless. sometimes shits gonna happen no matter wht u do, ecspecislly in an apocalypse
It's true that its realistic, and like I said the story is good, but the fact that all your decisions are pointless really takes away from the replay value. When I beat the game after picking Carly and think "Oh, Lily hates her." then I go back and pick Doug, it really irritates me that the death scene happens in the same way at the same time. There's no skill involved. You have several buttons, and they all do the same thing.
I now it's dramatic, but I still think Lilly's face after the misplaced shot to be VERY funny
Now that you've pointed it out, I can't watch that bit without laughing.....XD
Jesus Christ man 9 year old comments what the *uck XD
I think we can all agree to say this scene, with Carley or Doug, is one the most darkest moments of the game.
You can see Lilly instantly regretted killing Doug, even if it was Carley she did regret it.
She didn't smile or show any kind of devilish emotions
She said she _had_ to if it was Carly.
Doug was a swole guy too, didn’t get on anyone’s bad side
Watching this scene again, I just love Lily's reaction to Doug's death, just pure shock and horror followed by that slow head shake as she's probably thinking ' What have I done ?'. I know a lot of people hate her for Carley's death, but I think Doug's hits hard too for different reason. Lily didn't hold any hate for Doug like she may have had for Carly, she genuinely looked remorseful for his death.
Doug went out saving a life
NuKeZ gaming why didn't Ben die ;( why boug just why
Don't worry, Ben's death is way worse... and I'm glad.
Ben is OK OK OK he's not bad
Wilbert Cubero I Love Ben
Carley Too, If You think about...
So THAT'S what happen if you save Doug..I picked Carley because I thought she was fast enough to help Doug too..
I thought the same thing at first seeing as she was the one with the gun
Ben Paul Same
I thought she'd be able to shoot the zombies off of Doug
In my opinion, this scene is more fucked mainly because she didn't need Carley roasting her to pull out the gun, she pulled out the gun here unprovoked, this ultimately makes this woman a scary ass character since she can just mentally snap regardless
Man..I actually liked Doug he was Cool
yeah
hey cj how is sweet
@TryZoid more like Glenn IMO
@@Gibbypastrami rip glenn
Doug is love Doug is life
Doug was the most adequate and most helpful on the team. Too bad he died saving a rat.
I think Clem likes Doug better than Carly, because when Doug dies, she was scared and screamed no, and when he died by getting shot, she was a little bit off the rv like she was coming to him. That’s one of the reason why I would save Doug.
Edit: I also forgot when Lee was about to make a choice of who to save. Clem was also looking at Doug.
* Cough cough * Look who's going to be in Season 3 * Cough *
FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCK!!!
SO UR NOT DEAD!!!!!
Walking Dead???More Like TALKING Dead Am I Right Guys?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?
you're not right fucking little kid
Luke, Deal with it. Your already dead xD
Hello Neighbour go get cancer
That was heroic as fuck
Dougs a fucking hero he saved Carly he saved lee he died saving Ben
even sadder then carley
This was truly a tragic mistake
of course remember back at the drug store he saw doug use the remote to turn on the tvs
Carley was much more useful
Ben101 no Carley was a better shot
Ben101 Carley takes a life too in episode 3 as well. She covers one of the sides during the Motel raid. So that's hardly a difference. Doug probably wouldn't even have helped that much after episode 3 though while Carley still has a good shot. It's like choosing between Andrea or Eugene. One of them has a really good shot while the other is just really smart.
Doug’s a real one, he sacrificed himself to save Ben.
Doug's a hero to be remebered. R.I.P Doug
Doug actually went out like a hero. He even got that pause of mourning. Carleys was just gut-wrenching. Carley likes you? Check. "Carley will remember that"? Check. Popped out of nowhere? Bingo. No pause, just instant disarmament by lee.
SPOILER ALERT:
If I think about it, BEN is the whole reason why 5 lives went to shit. If it wasn't for BEN, Lily wouldn't have gotten paranoid about the whole thievery incident at the motor inn which was caused by BEN making a deal with the Bandits that lured in walkers which bit Duck! Carley/Doug wouldn't have been killed because Lily wouldn't have been overly angry in the first place for BEN taking the medicine! With Duck dying from the bite due to the zombies lured in from the bandits that BEN made deals with, Katjaa his mother commits suicide! Lily gets left behind because she murders an innocent, yet this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for BEN!!!!
THERE SHOULD'VE BEEN A "THROW BEN OF THE TRAIN" OPTION WHEN HE ADMITTED!!!!
ikr
Except one of the reason's Lily got that way is because her father was killed right in front of her eyes. Furthermore, it's actually up for speculation if Ben either delayed the inevitable or made things worse.
Amnesian Bro The duck part I can't really put it on Ben. Those bandits would have most likely invaded regardless if Ben didn't steal the supplies and gave them it. Lilly chose to act like a dictator and got herself kicked out.
Yeah I really hate Ben 😠
If Ben didn't make a deal with the bandits, EVERYBODY in the group would have died right at the start of episode 3, cuz Bandits would have attacked when the group wasn't even prepared. So yes, Ben did save everyone who survived
Lily's face explains how everyone feels when they get a character killed.
Examples:
"oh shit, i commited a whoopsie"
" oopsie poopsie, i did a whoopsie "
" oh fuck "
" shit "
"oh no oh darn oh fuck oh diddly darn dee."
I'm like literally the only straight guy who chooses Doug over Carley, the first time,
#BROSBEFOREHOES
Your not the,only one
jimlael66 not the only guy who saved Doug just wanted to clarify or however you spell it
I did too 😀😀😀😀
I did
I fucking loved doug..this scene got me crying.
Man, I love S1 Lilly so much, she is an aweasome and complex character, sad that in S4 they made her just evil
should i skip season 3?
@@Bladez5 Don't skip season 3 it can be bad for some people but if you're really a fan of the game you have to play it to find yourself in the story
@@kel474 ok
@@Bladez5 Season 3 has the most organized story with no timeskips like the other 3
She was awful in Season 1 too, she murdered Carley and tried to kill Ben.
When doug gets to heaven...
Carley: Oh hey Doug. How'd you die?
Doug: Well bandits raided the Motel we went to and then we had to escape with the RV.
Lily thought it was Ben, so we began arguing. Kenny hit a walker so we all got outside and argued more.
Then, as Kenny removed and killed the walker..
Lily pointed the gun at Ben and I was like "oh shit. NO!" so I grabbed his arm and pulled him out of the way, throwing
him and getting myself shot in the head.
Carley: I've been watching and I've seen that he is indeed, a screw up. Why'd you save him? Care for him?
Doug: Well no, but actually yes.
(Post season 1)
Doug & Carley: Hello Lee
Lee: I saved Clem but I got bit in the process
Doug: Sorry Man,shame we couldn't help you
Carly: Ben is doing a lot better
Ben: Look If I knew what would have happened I would have never taken the deal with the bandits.
Lee Doug Carley: We can't change it now, might as well accept are situation
Lee: I now got to keep an eye on Clementine I still have to talk to her in death.
@grandinquisitor8335
Kenny: ;) Did someone miss me?
Kat: Kenny what happened to your eye?
Kenny: some bastard injured me.
Lee: Great to see you again Ken.
Carley and Doug: Where's Clementine?
Kenny: She's alive.
Lee: :)
Ben: Hey Kenny.
Kenny: What's this shithead doing here?
I'm like the only one who actually liked lily and let her stay, and then I agreed to go away with her but she drove off.
Me tooo
Well i don't agree with Cutu Pass on one Point ( the " No one Likes Kenny Thing " ) because that is clearly Not true but this time i have to agree with Cutu Pass. I think Lilly was the best FEMALE character of the whole series.... She is bossy , she is tough, she had some Leader skills , she is complex... I Liked also Christa but i only Started to like her in S2 when Omid died... She was depressive and human... I Love this kind of human characters.
She was apparently supposed to come back at the end of the season with the RV but they fucking scrapped it
what happened next
I wish it give us a option to kill her because I would of killed lilly
"nOw, wHaT tHe FuCk'S tHe PrObLeM?"
Okay but Lily is even less justified here trying to shoot a highschool boy. With Carly i get it she was provoking the hell out of Lily
Doug clearly tugs at Ben's arm so Ben would not get shot by Lilly. I'm still upset that Doug died, he was honestly the sweetest character. Rest in peace, Doug. You did well.
He saved someone's life but lost his own...
What I like about this game is that they kill off most of the characters that have a lot of potential to kind of change and the first time they do act different that's when they die, which is great because it shows not all the loved characters will survive, but some might go on farther than others do to their role, added effects/drama, or maybe as a conflict
what really would've been interesting is what if the first person you saved went on to raise clementine for you, imagine doug or carly taking care of clem, doug using noise and devices to take out hoards or run away while carly, thought clem to shoot and use different guns.
So many people hate Ben.
He's a coward, I can agree. He is my favorite character, though. He didn't want to get killed, and he didn't. But at a price. He did try to protect the group by giving the bandits supplies, and he tried to do his best. I wish there was a rare chance that he could stay alive... He was the most well written character. He showed what most of us would become in a situation like this.
Fun fact
Kenny says Lilly is a murderer, but he kill Larry before.
C:
hes a hipocrite most of the times in season 1 and season 2
man pootis I know ;-;
i think is different, kenny didnt kill larry just because he was angry, larry was an inminnent threat to them, lily killed carly for call her "scary little girl"
Andrey Chavarría Who is the different, Lilly kill Carly/Doug because she think one is a traitor, and she don't want more of them death or more traitors on the group
Paula Spark except Lilly didn't actually KNOW much of anything. She knew that someone took the chems, but she had no idea who. She pulled the trigger based on who she thought MIGHT have done it. She was pissed and wanted someone to pay for it, and she really didn't care who it was. And as for Kenny, I wouldn't consider that the same thing, Larry wasn't even breathing when he "killed" him.
Unpopular opinion: Lilly is one of my favorite characters in the entire series I was so glad to see her come back on the final season but I wish there was a redemption story arc for her :/
Omg samee! I literally agree with everything u just said
Is it just me or does Lee sound a bit like batman when he said "DROP IT"
All these years and this is the first time I've seen Kenny not know Lee's history in this scene. It's so much cooler when he knows.
Carley and Doug were ride or die. Easily some of the best characters of the series.
i never died I got passed out then when I woke up just got abandoned
Doug thanks for saving me
we miss you Doug
We found you napping in Russell's story.
@@Samuel152 LMFAO
I be like
Lee:your not coming either
Ben:NO NOT ME TO
This is why I freaking love Doug!!!
I just love the way Lee says "I don't care."
Geez your comment Is 8 years old and yet no likes.
R.I.P Doug, a True born Hero.
Damm pour Doug, he did the same selfless move that I would’ve done though
What’s crazy is that in Carley’s scene they show Lily going for her gun more clearly than in Doug’s scene
The only thing I hate about this game is the fate of certain characters like Ben, Doug and Carley if you save them they just die anyways just making our previous choice completely useless if you save someone you have to choose whether the person dies not the game itself
Doug gave up his life to save Ben
Doug saved Ben
Me at that moment: DOUG NO!
Thanks for respecting my choice to keep Doug alive game.
Don't remember Doug since it's been 6 years and he was finally referenced again in the latest season/episode. Fucking Kenny should've just listened and played along with Lilly's stupid vote :P
If you saved Doug like
Abu Elyasasief at first I did not But after watching the Doug gameplay I wish I did
Abu Elyasasief i did
Abu Elyasasief I didn’t so I guess I dislike
Carley 4 life
KingDarkzyYT What are you on about?
Lilly was actually right in this version cause ben DID do it
i’ve always liked doug more than carley tbh. even when i was younger and seeing this when i was younger i didn’t really care now than i’m older i actually shed a tear when my homie doug died like that he was much better than carley. who agrees?
Lilly is going to be in episode three of season 3, calling it.
Just out of curiosity, if you save Doug do you no longer have the option to tell the group that Lee was on his way to prison? I know with Carly one of her main points was encouraging Lee to tell people about his past. It's just I've never seen that option with Doug, is it even possible?
Sadly no. Honestly I feel like Telltale should've given more incentive to keeping Doug because Carley gets more screentime for you to get attached to her in Episode 1 and like you mentioned, you can only tell people about your past if you save Carley
Bemi Atto ooooh then tbh what’s the point of Doug? He has no striking characteristics, just like you said if they gave more incentive to keep Doug like making him a closer friend to Lee or exploring more on his intelligence
Lily is so chilled out here, she's usually screaming in these
I love doug he's a cool guy
actually she defended Ben to the maximum, and most importantly she putted Lilly in her place before she got shot.
Lily was like.....oh shit....
In this scenario after she kills Doug instead of Carley Lilly had the nerve to mention Lee's past when he killed the senator. Although Kenny didn't care and he actually saw Lilly shoot Carley in cold blood.
Carley's death had me like...
1:17
I kinda feel bad for Doug, Saved or not saved.
He was a Genius who died a Genius
#JUSTICE4DOUG
2:05
*Hits Lilly As Hard As He Can In The RV*
*The whole RV shakes*
*Lee:DROP IT!*
The way lee says drop it. Was badass.
After Carly got shot in my game, i stoped playing the game
You must continue! Go!
UglyGod 420 yeah that maked me sad , but we cant do anything , just continue the game , its cool , could be coolest with carley alive but ...
what dumb reason to stop you should hate yourself.
thats a dumb reason to stop playing the game
now if clementine died that would be a different sory
I felt it was one of the sadder deaths.
Its better to choose Carley because Kenny doesnt get as mad when he finds out about your past
Agreed
+JohnRenziVlogs Or you could play it smart and tell him about your past when you get the chance to at the motel. I did and he was cool with it then and now.
+Fallout NV you can't tell anyone if you save Doug which sucks
"i don't care" one of my favorite moments in this game
Lily and Troy would've made a good couple
Troy?
You know, thinking about it, they would! haha. Even though she's tough she would bring out a softer side of him (just like jane did!)
Talia Hass she and she?
Cole Phelps Even though she's(Lilly) tough, she(lilly) would bring out a softer side of him. I don't understand the problem
Talia Hass I don't have one? - just didn't understand how you put it?
3:06 you can see ben mourning doug ):
Lilly's face is priceless after she shot doug
I prefer saving Carley because we get to tell people like Kenny and Clementine about Lee's past. One thing I hate is that Lilly tried to betray Lee by exposing his past if we choose abandon her on the side of the road but failed if we saved Carley. If we choose Doug, we can't get to tell people about Lee's past because Doug never knew what Lee did in the past and Kenny seems pissed at Lee after Lilly "exposed" him since we don't have that option to tell about Lee's past.
What I find ironic is people keep riding Lily for her decisions. Rationing food, taking St.John's food to go, and believing Ben was the double agent.
She made decisions that in time turns out to be right....
Doesn't justify killing someone the way she did...but you have to understand she was going through a SERIOUS grieving situation at the time, so she acted on impulse and made a horrible mistake.
Effing A Lily, why did you have to freaking ruin everything!
Lilly is the best survivor, she knows what to do better than lee
Lee's killing was a killing of honor, defending his own manly virtue and the womanly virtue of his wife. Lee never killed someone who was a friggin' HERO like Doug. A man who was such a saint that he'd put his life on the line, even sacrifice it, for an ignorant little punk he barely knew.
his killing was put of anger, he killed his wife and her lover
Gibbypastrami :)) He just killed the guy who slept with his wife, not his wife.
The guy who slept with his wife was his best friend. And his name is Sam.
I cried when doug/carley died, and lilly was left behind
this is the moment she realized she messed up
This is scene is way more powerful with Carley because she keeps adding fire to the argument, + Kenny won't get surprised with you being a murderer if you get Carley because she gives you the option to tell him
I feel like I'm the only one who actually likes Lilly lol
I like Lilly too, because she was just trying to protect her group.
+ong xeng yang really ironic that she killed doug
Viet Nguyen he was going to shot ben but doug try to save him, so lilly was accidental shot doug
Even if she killed Ben, that wouldnt be right and it still would be a murder so...killing in that case isn´t solution.
Yeah but if you let her stay shes gonna steal the RV and if you come with her shes gonna betray you and steal the RV again
I saved Doug cuz he is awsum and cute, I wish Ben died there.
dunno whether to thumb up because u saved doug, or to not because u wished for ben's death
Well I thumps up you because that comment was hilarious anyway :D
aight, i'll return the favor :D
Eyeless Jack cuz they fuck us over for example HE FUCKING DEALED WITH THE BANDITS AND GOT KENNYS FAMILY KILLED also Sarah's just a whiny bitch who is a serious problem to the group
Play the games then you'll understand
Don't ask questions about that if you never played the games, makes you look like an idiot
Lee sounds like batman when he's angry
i love it when lee goes savage
I'm a little taken aback by anyone who would mourn the loss of the Doug character. The man was a complete blank slate. The writers made a sad attempt to try to make him unique by other character making reference to him being a nerd, but he said and did almost nothing, and when he did, the voice actor sounded like he was sleepwalking.
i agree i could tell the first time you interact with him, i was really sad when carley died though because it seemed a romance was blossoming
Equanox214 False
You wouldn't be sad to lose a valuable ally?
1rebelboy In real life, I might be. But since this is a story and Doug barely said anything at all, I didn't feel his loss in the same way as Carley. It's clear the writers didn't have any ideas for Doug beyond "he's a nerd."
WastedPo Agreed they could've don better with him but hewas good. He made the alarm system, saving Lee with a laser pen was brilliant and said more about his character than dialogue could
I wish both of them lived!
on slot one I let her get away with killing carley and brought her along and regrets that but this time I'll leave her behind
I really wish there was some way to save these two in episode one and in episode three I wish something like clem gives carney her clip and Lee goes to save Doug and in episode three lee pushes lily out of the way and carley/doug lives
Sadder than Lee's death
Eh, I cried when you had a option to shoot Kenny in Season 2, Episode 5.
Horrorgain It's called an opinion, dumbass
Horrorgain You have Lee as your PP, that's cute
Berzerk Llama Shut the fuck up
Berzerk Llama nice one copycat
I do think Ben is guilty, judging by his behavior.
NewGen Gamer
I made that comment before i finished the game, i chose to kill Ben the first chance i got.
Y
blood117 Why?
+NewGen Gamer then Lily would have kicked him out
+blood117 WHY?